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| locusf | seems that many sdk issues I've been experiencing are due to dirty ~/rpmbuild | 10:12 |
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| Stskeeps | mb clean is useful | 10:12 |
| locusf | ah didn't know about that | 10:12 |
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| faenil | so, we're stuck with maliit with freaking 3009 egl error | 10:16 |
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| chriadam | locusf: changes to .qml/.js files aren't picked up by default by mb. so mb clean between mb build is usually necessary unless you are only making .cpp changes. | 10:23 |
| sledges | good to know | 10:23 |
| sledges | thanks | 10:23 |
| locusf | chriadam: ok good to know | 10:24 |
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| rozhkov | faenil: mustache should be dropped from network settings (i still feel shame for that) | 11:00 |
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| faenil | rozhkov, ah ok :) | 11:41 |
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| locusf | is there a known issue where lipstick-colorful-home only has one column of icons? | 12:14 |
| sledges | never seen | 12:15 |
| sledges | maybe WxH size at fault? | 12:15 |
| faenil | locusf, ehehe :) that's a nice one as well | 12:16 |
| faenil | only happens after lipstick is restarted because of Maliit timing out | 12:17 |
| locusf | faenil: oh ok you knew about that | 12:18 |
| faenil | locusf, yes, it's not like that at boot | 12:18 |
| locusf | faenil: yeah | 12:18 |
| faenil | then after 90seconds or so maliit times out | 12:18 |
| faenil | so lipstick.service is restarted because of dependencies not working | 12:18 |
| faenil | and it keeps looping like that | 12:19 |
| locusf | it doesn't for me, this happens only when lipstick is restarted | 12:19 |
| locusf | ok | 12:19 |
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| faenil | maliit tries to start, times out, lipstick is closed and restarted | 12:19 |
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| faenil | that's the current mood :) | 12:20 |
| faenil | I was wondering if aknight knew anything about maliit issue | 12:21 |
| faenil | I tried asking pvuorela as well, he fixed that on x11 with https://github.com/maliit/framework/commit/39baf7492b4dcf351d6db517858f1250df27df11 | 12:21 |
| * aknight knows very little about maliit | 12:21 | |
| faenil | aknight, egl 3009 on n9/n950 | 12:21 |
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| aknight | faenil: no idea off the top | 12:23 |
| locusf | the egl 3009 is a warning | 12:24 |
| faenil | locusf, which creates all the rest | 12:24 |
| locusf | faenil: yeah | 12:24 |
| locusf | Aug 29 11:55:12 localhost maliit-server[671]: Maximum number of attributes on this hardware is 0. | 12:25 |
| locusf | thats odd | 12:25 |
| faenil | that's because of 3009 imho | 12:25 |
| faenil | it can't get info from the driver | 12:25 |
| faenil | so it says that max attrributes is 0 | 12:25 |
| faenil | which is obviously false (imho) | 12:26 |
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| locusf | hmm self-built maliit crashes eg. qmlmessages and when in app swithcer it displays the keyboard as the app card | 13:13 |
| locusf | interesting | 13:13 |
| mikhas | got a bt, locusf? | 13:13 |
| locusf | mikhas: ? | 13:13 |
| mikhas | and self-built == from git? | 13:13 |
| mikhas | backtrace | 13:13 |
| locusf | no backtrace I'm afraid | 13:14 |
| locusf | and yes from git | 13:14 |
| mikhas | bummer | 13:14 |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/maliit-framework | 13:14 |
| mikhas | right, main problem is that SailfishOS + Nemo still uses 0.80 branch | 13:14 |
| mikhas | ah | 13:14 |
| faenil | mikhas, oh you know more about maliit? :D | 13:14 |
| mikhas | hm yes? | 13:15 |
| faenil | \o/ | 13:15 |
| mikhas | some would say that I am the maintainer, albeit a bit inactive *ahem* | 13:15 |
| locusf | fantastic | 13:15 |
| mikhas | hm, is there a nice way on github to diff two repos? | 13:15 |
| faenil | awesome | 13:16 |
| mikhas | e.g., https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/maliit-framework vs. https://github.com/maliit/framework | 13:16 |
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| faenil | don't know : | 13:16 |
| faenil | :/ | 13:16 |
| faenil | mikhas, don't know if you read the backlog, we have egl 3009 on Nemo wayland | 13:16 |
| * mikhas does not read backlogs | 13:17 | |
| mikhas | I saw something on twitter the other day, yeah. | 13:17 |
| faenil | locusf, I think you have the log on pastebin? | 13:18 |
| locusf | faenil: yes | 13:19 |
| locusf | http://pastie.org/8280129 | 13:19 |
| locusf | theres the whole error | 13:19 |
| locusf | https://www.dropbox.com/s/ddw36arnzlney8m/20130829_161730-1.jpg | 13:20 |
| locusf | and thats the new situation | 13:20 |
| locusf | faenil: I'll try and update maliit to current git HEAD and retest | 13:21 |
| faenil | locusf, but that's when you kill lipstick? | 13:21 |
| faenil | I don't see maliit | 13:21 |
| faenil | the one you have is a font issue imho | 13:22 |
| locusf | faenil: thats not when I kill lipstick | 13:23 |
| locusf | thats when I'm trying to write something with maliit (the pastebin) | 13:23 |
| faenil | locusf, on n950 nothing shows, even if the physical kbd is closed | 13:23 |
| faenil | but that could be another bug about n950... | 13:23 |
| faenil | but it's yet more difficult for me to test it :/ | 13:23 |
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| faenil | I didn't know it showed something on n9 | 13:24 |
| locusf | faenil: it shows now as I manually compiled maliit | 13:25 |
| faenil | locusf, as ok, so the default one doesn't show | 13:25 |
| locusf | yes | 13:25 |
| locusf | but the keyboard is shown in app swither | 13:26 |
| locusf | *switcher | 13:26 |
| locusf | no in the actual app itself | 13:26 |
| faenil | ok | 13:26 |
| faenil | I think not even in switcher here, but I have to test | 13:26 |
| faenil | but strange that it works if you compile it yourself...it should be the same binary :/ | 13:26 |
| locusf | faenil: do you want me to upload the packages for you to test? | 13:26 |
| faenil | ok, will test it later ;) | 13:26 |
| locusf | faenil: | 13:29 |
| locusf | https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qm4ktmliu6lcnr/maliit.tar.bz2 | 13:29 |
| faenil | getting maliit to work would stabilize lipstick at least | 13:30 |
| faenil | locusf, does it also time out in your case? maliit I mean | 13:31 |
| faenil | we have same images now, so it should... | 13:32 |
| faenil | it's the reason why lipstick is restarted | 13:32 |
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| locusf | well I have yet to see any timeouts in the log | 13:36 |
| locusf | it just crashes in my case instead of timing out | 13:37 |
| faenil | locusf, what do you see in journalctl when lipstick restarts | 13:38 |
| faenil | look for the time gap | 13:38 |
| locusf | I haven't had lipstick restarts yet :/ | 13:41 |
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| faenil | since you used the self-built package you mean | 13:42 |
| locusf | yeah | 13:43 |
| faenil | ok | 13:44 |
| faenil | so you used same spec and same repo OBS is using? | 13:44 |
| locusf | yes | 13:46 |
| faenil | :/ | 13:46 |
| faenil | which packages did you replace? | 13:47 |
| faenil | only framework-wayland? | 13:47 |
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| locusf | and inputcontext | 13:50 |
| locusf | thats all | 13:50 |
| faenil | locusf, if you ran out of ideas, try making a dump of *clean* image with OBS maliit, and then uninstall and install the self-built | 13:50 |
| faenil | and see if there is any new file or config | 13:50 |
| faenil | which gets created maybe (if there were no dynamic files creations we could just compare the rpms) | 13:51 |
| locusf | ok | 13:52 |
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| faenil | locusf, your inputcontext is 1.8Mb | 13:54 |
| faenil | the OBS one is 253Kb | 13:54 |
| faenil | maybe one is stripped and the other is not | 13:54 |
| faenil | or debug/release | 13:54 |
| faenil | locusf, Archive manager doesn't let me open your wayland rpm (worked with inputcontext) | 13:55 |
| locusf | hmm | 13:57 |
| faenil | mikhas, any input | 13:58 |
| faenil | ? | 13:58 |
| mikhas | hm? | 13:58 |
| mikhas | there are two different Maliit input context, one that is shipped by Qt5, one that is shipped by Maliit | 13:59 |
| mikhas | => if compiling from git, for the framework, you probably want to use "$ qmake CONFIG+=qt5-inputcontext" or such | 13:59 |
| mikhas | not sure the nemo version already has that feature | 14:00 |
| faenil | mikhas, yes it does | 14:00 |
| faenil | %qmake5 \ | 14:01 |
| faenil | CONFIG+=enable-dbus-activation \ | 14:01 |
| faenil | CONFIG+=qt5-inputcontext \ | 14:01 |
| faenil | CONFIG+=lipstick \ | 14:01 |
| faenil | CONFIG+=noxcb | 14:01 |
| faenil | which is what OBS uses as well | 14:01 |
| w00t | mikhas: fyi, the qt5 IC is gone as of yesterday | 14:02 |
| w00t | (https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,63891) | 14:03 |
| mikhas | ah | 14:03 |
| mikhas | yeah well, if we ever have an official Qt5 IC in the future I'd rather have Maliit as a Qt5 add-on | 14:04 |
| faenil | w00t, also, Nemo git is pointing to gitorious, which is not valid anymore | 14:04 |
| mikhas | w00t, coming to devdays? | 14:04 |
| w00t | mikhas: SF or berlin? | 14:04 |
| mikhas | either? | 14:05 |
| w00t | :-) | 14:05 |
| w00t | I'm not sure yet, I hope to | 14:05 |
| faenil | devdays :Q____ | 14:05 |
| w00t | at least berlin will be a bit tricky to manage as I need to travel around the same time | 14:05 |
| w00t | but I'd prefer berlin as it's closer.. | 14:05 |
| mikhas | metoo | 14:05 |
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| w00t | faenil: my guess is that pvuorela (or whoever touches the packaging next) gets the honor :) | 14:06 |
| faenil | :D | 14:06 |
| faenil | mikhas, did you attend DevDays in Munich? | 14:07 |
| faenil | 2011 I think | 14:07 |
| faenil | or 2010 | 14:07 |
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| mikhas | I did | 14:14 |
| mikhas | the last Munich dev days | 14:14 |
| faenil | mikhas, I am the guy who won the Kindle in the evening draw :D | 14:15 |
| faenil | you probably won't even remember about the draw though :) | 14:15 |
| mikhas | I do remember the silly circus | 14:15 |
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| faenil | I was with mlong when the lady called my name from middle of the stairs | 14:16 |
| faenil | (she was halfway between the floors holding the mic) | 14:16 |
| faenil | good days, when old Nokia sponsored people to attend :D | 14:18 |
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| NeeDforKill | faenil hello | 14:42 |
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| faenil | NeeDforKill, hi | 14:42 |
| NeeDforKill | what's up? | 14:42 |
| faenil | got to study :P | 14:46 |
| NeeDforKill | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq_n1J5Jo64 | 14:47 |
| NeeDforKill | Russian WWE so awesome :D | 14:48 |
| faenil | lol | 14:49 |
| NeeDforKill | dat vodka :D | 14:49 |
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| faenil | gry, pin | 15:38 |
| faenil | ping | 15:38 |
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| faenil | awesome, zypper dup and now it's all black | 15:48 |
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| faenil | n950 revived :) | 15:54 |
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| faenil | wow, lockscreen shows and maliit-server is being correctly activated via dbus \o/ | 15:57 |
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| locusf | faenil: whaa? | 16:01 |
| faenil | locusf, I didn't say maliit works :D but the server starts at boot | 16:01 |
| locusf | aah | 16:01 |
| locusf | from my binaries? | 16:02 |
| faenil | nope, just did zypper dup | 16:02 |
| locusf | hmm | 16:03 |
| locusf | Removing ti-omap3-sgx-wayland-wsegl-0.1.3-5.2.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx ......................................................................................................................[done] | 16:03 |
| locusf | hmm | 16:03 |
| locusf | did you have that? | 16:03 |
| faenil | hahah yeah I had to reinstall that | 16:05 |
| faenil | or maybe it wasn't that? | 16:05 |
| faenil | anyway, phone won't boot without that | 16:05 |
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| faenil | it's the wayland egl driver | 16:05 |
| locusf | argh | 16:05 |
| locusf | just rebooted with that removed | 16:05 |
| locusf | sigh | 16:05 |
| locusf | reflashing time! | 16:06 |
| faenil | no wait | 16:06 |
| faenil | just reinstall packages | 16:06 |
| faenil | why reflash | 16:06 |
| faenil | ssh in | 16:06 |
| locusf | you said phone won't boot without that | 16:06 |
| faenil | and reinstall | 16:06 |
| faenil | yeah well it won't show homescreen | 16:06 |
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| faenil | but ssh and the rest still works | 16:06 |
| locusf | ok | 16:07 |
| locusf | seems so | 16:07 |
| faenil | I don't know why it wanted to remove wsegl | 16:08 |
| faenil | it didn't happen here | 16:08 |
| locusf | ok, strange | 16:08 |
| faenil | Aug 29 16:09:01 localhost systemd-tmpfiles[505]: stat(/run/user/100000/state) failed: Permission denied | 16:12 |
| faenil | mm | 16:12 |
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| faenil | one step ahead | 16:17 |
| faenil | DEBUG: bool MIMPluginManagerPrivate::switchPlugin(const QString&, MAb | 16:17 |
| faenil | stractInputMethod*, const QString&) "nemo-keyboard.qml" could not find initiator | 16:17 |
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| pvuorela | faenil: that's expected. | 16:20 |
| faenil | pvuorela, ok, though I have a black rectangle on bottom of my screen :D | 16:20 |
| pvuorela | hmh :) | 16:20 |
| locusf | faenil: what did you do? | 16:20 |
| faenil | basically, first time it crashes with the egl error | 16:21 |
| faenil | then if you wait for the server to start again while you are IN the app, it won't crash | 16:21 |
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| faenil | now it shows a lot of Aug 29 16:19:52 localhost maliit-server[554]: DEBUG: Updating input method area to QRegion(size=1), bounds =...480) | 16:21 |
| faenil | which is expected | 16:22 |
| faenil | so the .qml error is the only bad thing I see here | 16:22 |
| faenil | and if pvuorela says that's expected...eheh :D bad luck for us | 16:22 |
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| locusf | lol I guess yeah | 16:23 |
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| faenil | so, just rebooted | 16:25 |
| faenil | open components gallery | 16:25 |
| faenil | hit multiline text | 16:26 |
| faenil | BOOM, maliit service entered failed state | 16:26 |
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| locusf | yep same for me | 16:27 |
| faenil | Aug 29 16:27:45 localhost maliit-server[627]: WARNING: An inactive plugin is misbehaving - tried to show a window! | 16:28 |
| locusf | hmm can't revive lipstick now | 16:28 |
| faenil | yeah screen goes black | 16:28 |
| faenil | can't reproduce the black small rectangle :( | 16:28 |
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| faenil | locusf, basically it's keeping the app switcher black | 16:29 |
| faenil | if you swipe out and scroll you can still see lipstick is working | 16:29 |
| faenil | but I think maliit is trying to draw on the app switcher | 16:29 |
| faenil | at full screen | 16:29 |
| faenil | whole black :D | 16:29 |
| sledges | gdb ? | 16:29 |
| * sledges baffled if that could help | 16:30 | |
| sledges | run maliit without running lipstick? | 16:30 |
| sledges | for a test | 16:31 |
| faenil | stopping lipstick.service means stopping all services depending on it | 16:37 |
| faenil | but I'll try | 16:37 |
| faenil | FATAL: EGL Error : Could not create the egl surface: error = 0x3003 | 16:38 |
| faenil | starting it with same env as compositor... | 16:38 |
| sledges | did you trace which component the error originates from? | 16:39 |
| faenil | this last one? | 16:39 |
| sledges | yes | 16:39 |
| sledges | or you managed to avoid it by re-launching mallit as you said? | 16:40 |
| faenil | DEBUG: Creating Maliit input context | 16:40 |
| faenil | FATAL: EGL Error : Could not create the egl surface: error = 0x3003 | 16:40 |
| faenil | this is with lipstickservice stopped | 16:40 |
| faenil | is it supposed to run on eglfs? | 16:41 |
| sledges | this i can't tell without looking, soz | 16:42 |
| faenil | eh :P | 16:42 |
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| sledges | so if you can make it draw something e.g. a blackbox at least (or like locusf managed to get its images on app switcher) | 16:46 |
| faenil | pvuorela, is this also normal? DEBUG: bool MIMPluginManagerPrivate::switchPlugin(const QString&, MA | 16:47 |
| faenil | bstractInputMethod*, const QString&) "libmaliit-keyboard-plugin.so" could not find initiator | 16:47 |
| sledges | you could try tracing where surfaces are selected in the code | 16:47 |
| sledges | also ask in #maliit they will drool for wayland (if they don't already) | 16:47 |
| pvuorela | faenil: yes. | 16:47 |
| faenil | pvuorela, ok :/ | 16:47 |
| sledges | might be compositor (lipstick's) problem which i fear most though | 16:48 |
| pvuorela | should someday check out that initiator thing, not the first time it confuses people. | 16:48 |
| pvuorela | faenil: hey and if you have maliit keyboard plugin installed, cannot necessarily recommend it at this point. | 16:49 |
| faenil | pvuorela, isn't that requires for vkb? | 16:49 |
| pvuorela | or at least the last time i checked it had some problems. been fixing nemo keyboard plugin myself. | 16:50 |
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| pvuorela | both coming from the same repository. | 16:50 |
| locusf | maliit-plugins-maliit-keyboard ? | 16:50 |
| faenil | yes | 16:50 |
| faenil | I thought that was a must have? | 16:50 |
| pvuorela | no. | 16:50 |
| faenil | instead it's just the non-qml keyboard? | 16:50 |
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| faenil | or what is it? | 16:51 |
| pvuorela | yea. | 16:52 |
| faenil | ah ok | 16:52 |
| faenil | screw that then | 16:52 |
| faenil | anyway | 16:52 |
| faenil | I see it! \o/ o | 16:52 |
| faenil | on app switcher | 16:52 |
| locusf | ? | 16:52 |
| faenil | but it's on another window! | 16:52 |
| locusf | ah like me | 16:52 |
| pvuorela | yay :) | 16:52 |
| sledges | x) | 16:52 |
| faenil | don't know locusf I didn't read you saying it was on another window | 16:52 |
| faenil | I thought you could see it on your app | 16:52 |
| faenil | but in app switcher | 16:53 |
| sledges | 14:20 < locusf> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ddw36arnzlney8m/20130829_161730-1.jpg | 16:53 |
| faenil | sledges, I've seen that | 16:53 |
| locusf | another window hmm | 16:53 |
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| faenil | locusf, I don't understand from that picture...was yours in another window or was it on top of your app? | 16:54 |
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| locusf | I didn't test with another window | 16:54 |
| locusf | it basically killed the app and started the keyboard on top of it | 16:54 |
| faenil | locusf, in my case I can see both windows | 16:55 |
| faenil | one with the app, and the other with the keyboard | 16:55 |
| faenil | but the keyboard is closed | 16:55 |
| faenil | I can see it closing in the appswitch while swiping out of the app | 16:55 |
| locusf | ok | 16:56 |
| sledges | it doesn't merge the two | 16:57 |
| sledges | x11 must have had some flags for not to treat it as a new application | 16:57 |
| sledges | x11 mcompositor | 16:57 |
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| sledges | faenil, means it doesnt kill your app? | 16:57 |
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| faenil | doesn't | 16:58 |
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| faenil | here's a picture of what I see before the keyboard animates and goes away | 16:58 |
| faenil | https://twitter.com/faenil/status/373127458553618432 | 16:58 |
| sledges | that explains it | 16:58 |
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| locusf | I had that once too :D | 16:58 |
| sledges | if locus had his app still running, it would be identical | 16:58 |
| faenil | sledges, eh :P | 17:00 |
| sledges | ;) | 17:01 |
| faenil | I'm sure pvuorela already has the solution! :D | 17:01 |
| sledges | 8) | 17:01 |
| locusf | now I had the same error as faenil | 17:02 |
| locusf | in the above pic | 17:02 |
| faenil | locusf, good :) | 17:03 |
| locusf | Jan 01 00:03:30 localhost maliit-server[756]: WARNING: QSGContext::initialize: depth buffer support missing, expect rendering errors | 17:04 |
| locusf | Jan 01 00:03:30 localhost maliit-server[756]: WARNING: QSGContext::initialize: stencil buffer support missing, expect rendering errors | 17:04 |
| locusf | faenil: do you see those? | 17:04 |
| faenil | yep | 17:04 |
| faenil | also WWDrakey is saying they have similar maliit issues on their wayland VM | 17:06 |
| WWDrakey | Ohh yeah. A black screen consistently when Maliit should be jumping up. | 17:07 |
| faenil | in my VM maliit never comes up (as it should? doesn't it only come up if you have keyboard closed on n950) | 17:08 |
| faenil | ? | 17:08 |
| locusf | same here | 17:10 |
| faenil | ok it's some wrong config in their VM | 17:11 |
| WWDrakey | Hmm, we're using our own homescreen, so that might cause the difference? | 17:11 |
| WWDrakey | Didn't try it out with lipstick-colorful-home yet actually. | 17:11 |
| faenil | don't know :/ | 17:13 |
| faenil | we need a way to reproduce the double window keyboard :/ | 17:14 |
| faenil | let's uninstall maliit-keyboard and reboot | 17:14 |
| faenil | well, appeared first time now | 17:17 |
| locusf | ? | 17:17 |
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| faenil | locusf, the double window | 17:35 |
| rcg | faenil, how's the progress on the wayland nemo image? | 17:36 |
| faenil | maliit didn't crash, just double window from first time (after a whole black screen) | 17:36 |
| faenil | rcg, issues with maliit | 17:36 |
| rcg | last thing i read was you fiddling with maliit | 17:36 |
| faenil | https://twitter.com/faenil/status/373127458553618432 | 17:36 |
| faenil | yep | 17:36 |
| rcg | hmm ic, this looks funky | 17:37 |
| rcg | did you try to ask the guys in #maliit for help? | 17:37 |
| rcg | faenil, i assume the screenshot shows the app switcher? | 17:40 |
| rcg | so maliit is treated as distinct window? | 17:41 |
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| rcg | whereas it should behave as some sort of overlay for the currently active window, right? | 17:42 |
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| faenil | rcg, yep | 18:01 |
| faenil | haven't tried on maliit yet, will do now ;) | 18:02 |
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| faenil | rcg, asked, but it seems everyone's idle there atm | 18:04 |
| locusf | was just about to say see twitter :) | 18:06 |
| faenil | :) | 18:06 |
| rcg | faenil, yeah, response times in there can be a "little longer" ;) | 18:07 |
| faenil | :) | 18:07 |
| rcg | iirc, i even got a question answered some days after i stated it :) | 18:07 |
| rcg | luckily, the backlog is not that crowded ;) | 18:07 |
| faenil | eheh | 18:09 |
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| qwazix | faenil, http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=461 | 18:41 |
| qwazix | Hurrian, Morpog_PC, ^^^ | 18:42 |
| qwazix | let's make more of these spec sheets | 18:42 |
| faenil | qwazix, love the glow *_* | 18:42 |
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| qwazix | :) I hope Hurrian doesn't object to it | 18:43 |
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| faenil | though performance isn't exactly perfect at the moment .. | 18:44 |
| faenil | and I don't know if it will get any better :/ | 18:44 |
| qwazix | faenil, do you think I've included all that you need to make a button? I have a feeling I missed something | 18:44 |
| qwazix | (the images are on github) | 18:45 |
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| qwazix | :( about performance though | 18:45 |
| faenil | qwazix, I don't know about the button, I guess we will know once it will be implemented :D | 18:47 |
| faenil | I'd start now but I have the maliit issue going on, readin lipstick's code atm | 18:47 |
| qwazix | :nod: | 18:50 |
| qwazix | I'm going out for a while. Talk later. | 18:50 |
| faenil | ok, let me know when you're back ;) | 18:50 |
| faenil | qwazix, oh also, we have to package opensans | 18:51 |
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| NeeDforKill | so keyboard fixed? | 18:56 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill, nope | 18:56 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill, https://twitter.com/faenil/status/373127458553618432 | 18:58 |
| NeeDforKill | :D | 18:59 |
| faenil | :D | 18:59 |
| NeeDforKill | dat keyboard | 18:59 |
| faenil | yeah ahah | 18:59 |
| NeeDforKill | locusf working on keyboard? | 19:00 |
| locusf | nope :) | 19:00 |
| NeeDforKill | :D | 19:00 |
| faenil | we are both doing what we can :) | 19:00 |
| locusf | I wouldn't know what to do | 19:01 |
| faenil | me neither :D | 19:01 |
| faenil | but let's see, we'll manage to fix this | 19:01 |
| faenil | now that we have double window the fix isn't far | 19:01 |
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| rcg | faenil, sorry for being abruptly afk, had to take care of the boy ;) | 19:07 |
| faenil | rcg, np :) | 19:07 |
| rcg | faenil, could it be that this is an issue with the compositor? | 19:07 |
| faenil | yes | 19:07 |
| rcg | i.e., that it treats maliit as window instead of overlaying it | 19:07 |
| rcg | what compositor are you using? | 19:08 |
| faenil | w00t said we'll talk about that later | 19:08 |
| rcg | ah cool | 19:08 |
| faenil | rcg, lipstick qml compositor | 19:08 |
| rcg | because this could be as simple as setting some window flags | 19:08 |
| rcg | or as complicated as setting some window flags, depending on the compositor and some other stuff :D | 19:09 |
| faenil | yeah :D | 19:09 |
| rcg | btw. while you are on it, compositor-wise, just a little remark i stumbled upon lately in kde | 19:09 |
| faenil | beware I'm reading the code of compositor for the first time now ;) | 19:10 |
| rcg | dunno how you plan to implement the lock screen, but it could be worthwhile to consider a solution for displaying the keyboard also on to of the lock screen | 19:10 |
| faenil | the lockscreen is there already | 19:10 |
| faenil | it's all qml so I don't think that is a big problem :) | 19:11 |
| rcg | background: kde lock screen is implemented in a way such that it is the very highest layer. which, essentially, makes it impossible to show a keyboard there as the lock screen, by definition, covers everything else, which in turn makes it pretty much impossible to unlock via touch input | 19:11 |
| rcg | faenil, yeah, i know, just talking compositor-wise about which layer to place on top of which | 19:12 |
| faenil | impossible to unlock via touch input? why? | 19:12 |
| rcg | so in case the lock screen has a special layer it might be a good idea to consider another special layer on top of the lock screen layer | 19:12 |
| faenil | swipe up doesn't work? | 19:13 |
| rcg | faenil, nah, am talking about a lock screen with password prompt | 19:13 |
| faenil | but still | 19:13 |
| rcg | might be overkill for nemo, | 19:13 |
| faenil | password prompt will be shown after you have swiped up | 19:13 |
| rcg | just sharing the experience from kde | 19:13 |
| faenil | bb10 does it that way as well, you swipe and then keyboard appears | 19:14 |
| rcg | yeah, and nemo may behave differently | 19:14 |
| faenil | no keyboard on top of lockscreen | 19:14 |
| rcg | i see | 19:14 |
| rcg | maybe that's a unique issue in kde :) | 19:14 |
| faenil | I don't think a keyboard on top of lockscreen would be a good idea, having the "swipe up" lockscreen | 19:14 |
| rcg | well, just meant, "just in case" | 19:15 |
| faenil | you swipe up, lockscreen disappears | 19:15 |
| special | rcg: keep in mind that this is wayland, not X11 | 19:15 |
| rcg | special, heh yeah, that may also be some part of the issue :) | 19:15 |
| special | it's not window stacking like X11 does, the compositor is all QML and it decides what gets displayed where | 19:15 |
| rcg | ah alright :) | 19:15 |
| faenil | rcg, :) | 19:15 |
| rcg | that sounds much cooler | 19:15 |
| special | it's literally as simple as showing/hiding and changing Z order for QML items | 19:15 |
| faenil | rcg, ^ | 19:16 |
| rcg | great :D | 19:16 |
| faenil | that's what I meant with "it's all qml I don't see a big problem" :D | 19:16 |
| rcg | cool :D | 19:16 |
| rcg | then just scratch what i just told :) | 19:16 |
| faenil | ok ^_^ | 19:16 |
| faenil | so on X11 even if you swipe up the lockscreen, you can't input on keyboard? | 19:17 |
| faenil | (in KDE) | 19:17 |
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| faenil | rcg, ^ | 19:19 |
| rcg | faenil, in the kde lock screen, there is no such thing as swipe up | 19:19 |
| faenil | ok | 19:19 |
| rcg | the lock screen, in the simplest case, simply displays a password input field | 19:20 |
| faenil | then makes sense | 19:20 |
| faenil | I thought it was like gnome | 19:20 |
| faenil | nowadays | 19:20 |
| faenil | haven't tried KDE for a while | 19:20 |
| rcg | which, well, given that the lock screen is the highest layer, even on-top of the virtual keyboard, makes it kinda impossible to log in via touch only | 19:20 |
| faenil | yes clearly | 19:21 |
| rcg | there is a bug report about that and i even found a crude hack to outsmart that stacking logic but it's not that nice | 19:21 |
| faenil | eheh | 19:21 |
| NeeDforKill | faenil zypper take updates from github? | 19:21 |
| rcg | but the kde guys said they work on it and have it on the agenda for the wayland move as well | 19:21 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill, no, it takes update from the OBS repositories | 19:22 |
| special | NeeDforKill: the repositories are on OBS. Tags on github automatically trigger OBS builds | 19:22 |
| locusf | faenil: I enabled debug for lipstick | 19:22 |
| faenil | but usually when you change something on git you tag and it triggers build on OBS, which updates repo | 19:22 |
| faenil | locusf, anything interesting? | 19:23 |
| locusf | http://pastie.org/8281132 <- this is when accessing keyboard | 19:23 |
| faenil | locusf, ok thanks | 19:24 |
| faenil | is there an env var for debug? | 19:24 |
| locusf | LIPSTICK_COMPOSITOR_DEBUG | 19:24 |
| faenil | ok | 19:24 |
| MSameer | faenil: please tell me that we have an N9 wayland image ;) | 19:26 |
| faenil | MSameer, of course we do! | 19:26 |
| MSameer | oh | 19:26 |
| MSameer | yay! | 19:26 |
| faenil | but virtual keyboard isn't working yet :D | 19:26 |
| MSameer | who cares :D | 19:26 |
| faenil | (apart from other issues :P) | 19:26 |
| faenil | well, how do you use it on n9? :D | 19:26 |
| MSameer | of course you use it | 19:26 |
| MSameer | for fixing vkb :P | 19:27 |
| faenil | \o/ | 19:27 |
| MSameer | or at least trying | 19:27 |
| faenil | :) | 19:27 |
| MSameer | so does it not show up at all or does it show a black frame? | 19:27 |
| faenil | https://twitter.com/faenil/status/373127458553618432 | 19:27 |
| MSameer | not bad :P | 19:28 |
| locusf | MSameer: would you like the image url? | 19:28 |
| MSameer | locusf: yes please | 19:29 |
| locusf | http://t.co/GixfsB5Ng5 | 19:29 |
| faenil | otherwise I set up a git repo, if you want to build it yourself using the ks | 19:29 |
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| MSameer | no i am fine with the image | 19:30 |
| MSameer | thanks locusf | 19:30 |
| locusf | np :) | 19:30 |
| MSameer | i hope it will work on n9 | 19:30 |
| MSameer | it says n950 | 19:30 |
| MSameer | vkb is not my area but i will try my best | 19:31 |
| locusf | I don't know if I'll make a third one, if the official ks is updated and an image pops out of the release management | 19:31 |
| locusf | MSameer: its ok, it will still work with N9 | 19:31 |
| faenil | locusf, yeah | 19:31 |
| MSameer | faenil: BTW are you ok? | 19:32 |
| faenil | yeah thanks :) busy with study these days...uni exams approaching | 19:32 |
| faenil | what about you? | 19:32 |
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| faenil | eheh | 19:32 |
| MSameer | faenil: good luck :) | 19:32 |
| faenil | nah just read the backlog :P | 19:32 |
| MSameer | gah, I need to charge that n9 first | 19:33 |
| locusf | afk for a while | 19:34 |
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| MSameer | ok | 19:40 |
| MSameer | i need a wall charger for that n9 | 19:40 |
| locusf | ok back | 19:52 |
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| Mric | hey everyone; I'm trying to download flasher.3.12.1.amd64 for linux: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php but I'm getting "Corrupted Content Error". It is just me ? | 20:28 |
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| Morpog_PC | Mric, same here | 20:31 |
| Mric | Morpog_PC, thx for trying any idea where I could download the flasher ? | 20:32 |
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| Morpog_PC | yeah, but I forgot the URL | 20:32 |
| Mric | Morpog_PC, skeiron mirror gives me "NO" | 20:32 |
| Morpog_PC | yeah should be on skeiron | 20:33 |
| Mric | skeiron.org doesn't work for me | 20:33 |
| Morpog_PC | http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/ | 20:33 |
| Mric | cool thanks | 20:34 |
| Morpog_PC | yw | 20:34 |
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| MSameer | that wayland image is not booting | 20:50 |
| MSameer | aha | 20:50 |
| MSameer | it did | 20:51 |
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| faenil | MSameer, zypper remove maliit-plugins-maliit-keyboard | 20:56 |
| MSameer | but wouldn't that remove vkb? | 20:57 |
| faenil | nope, that package has Maliit's default vkb, which is not what we use | 21:00 |
| faenil | I thought the same, so I included the package in the .ks, but it's not needed | 21:00 |
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| faenil | and I think it actually also creates conflicts with nemo's keyboard | 21:00 |
| MSameer | faenil: pulseaudio works | 21:00 |
| faenil | MSameer, try qmediaplayer | 21:01 |
| MSameer | faenil: zypper in gst-plugins-good | 21:01 |
| MSameer | gst-launch-0.10 audiotestsrc ! pulsesink | 21:01 |
| MSameer | you will hear a tone | 21:01 |
| MSameer | faenil: i am sure audio will work after you nstall gst-plugins-good | 21:02 |
| MSameer | faenil: the only issue is it will pull in libxdamage | 21:02 |
| MSameer | but we can see where the dependency comes from and drop it easily | 21:02 |
| faenil | ah ok :) | 21:02 |
| MSameer | /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstximagesrc.so | 21:03 |
| MSameer | that's a potential candidate for dropping | 21:03 |
| faenil | eh :P | 21:03 |
| MSameer | we also need to build gstreamer waylandsink | 21:03 |
| MSameer | if you remind me tomorrow then i can do it :) | 21:03 |
| faenil | ok great :D | 21:04 |
| MSameer | is there a media player? | 21:04 |
| MSameer | fonts are too tiny for my eyes to read | 21:04 |
| faenil | qmlgallery should play videos | 21:04 |
| faenil | and music player should play music | 21:04 |
| faenil | (I wrote qmlgallery, I saw videos working on X11, but it was months ago :D) | 21:04 |
| faenil | we haven't tested on wayland :P | 21:05 |
| faenil | w00t, maliit time? | 21:05 |
| MSameer | music insists i have no music | 21:08 |
| faenil | \o/ :D | 21:08 |
| MSameer | and seems tracker is busted | 21:08 |
| MSameer | Could not establish a connection to Tracker: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=7556f761cfc914aeee81cac200000010 --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n | 21:08 |
| faenil | yay | 21:08 |
| MSameer | gst-launch-0.10 playbin2 uri=file:///home/nemo/Music/maZikaty.com_Zein-Mahmoud_Yabki-W-Yad7ak.ogg | 21:09 |
| MSameer | that gives sound | 21:09 |
| MSameer | so sound and pulse audio are working | 21:09 |
| faenil | ok great :) | 21:09 |
| MSameer | i wonder where does that tracker error come from | 21:09 |
| MSameer | i am sure if we fix that, music will find and play oggs | 21:09 |
| MSameer | dbus-x11-1.6.8-1.1.9.armv7hl | 21:10 |
| faenil | MSameer, are you starting it from ssh? | 21:10 |
| MSameer | yup | 21:10 |
| MSameer | no | 21:10 |
| MSameer | no music from lipstick | 21:10 |
| faenil | are you setting dbus address? | 21:10 |
| MSameer | but tracker-info from ssh | 21:10 |
| MSameer | sure no :D | 21:11 |
| faenil | :D | 21:11 |
| MSameer | how do you do that? | 21:11 |
| faenil | DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/100000/dbus/user_bus_socket | 21:11 |
| MSameer | but dbus-launch is contained in dbus-x11 and it links against libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x3aab5000) | 21:11 |
| faenil | try setting the address; ;) | 21:12 |
| MSameer | i did | 21:13 |
| MSameer | now tracker shows the file | 21:13 |
| MSameer | why is music not showing it? | 21:13 |
| faenil | no idea check source | 21:13 |
| MSameer | it actually finds it | 21:16 |
| MSameer | but tapping play does nothing | 21:16 |
| faenil | ok | 21:16 |
| MSameer | at least pulse works | 21:18 |
| faenil | :) | 21:18 |
| MSameer | so the rest seems to be qt multimedia | 21:18 |
| MSameer | faenil: nusic works | 21:19 |
| MSameer | zypper in qt5-qtmultimedia qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer | 21:20 |
| faenil | mm strange it's not set as requirement of the package | 21:20 |
| MSameer | faenil: and gallery can play ogg theora videos now | 21:20 |
| faenil | MSameer, awesome :) | 21:20 |
| MSameer | so gst-plugins-bad qt5-qtmultimedia qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer | 21:20 |
| MSameer | those should be required by apps or added to ks :) | 21:21 |
| faenil | don't know if they should be requiremente | 21:21 |
| faenil | otherwise you should add all kind of codecs to the Requires section | 21:21 |
| MSameer | i guess they should go to ks | 21:21 |
| MSameer | but qt bits i am not sure really | 21:22 |
| faenil | MSameer, isn't there any redistribution policy about the gst plugins? | 21:23 |
| faenil | I remember they had special licences | 21:23 |
| faenil | (afaik) | 21:23 |
| MSameer | we are using ogg only so no issues | 21:25 |
| MSameer | i have been thinking about packaging the rest of the problematic plugins and hosting them somewhere else though | 21:26 |
| faenil | we're using egg, but the package has many codecs | 21:26 |
| MSameer | i just need to setup a warez obs :D | 21:26 |
| faenil | ahahha :D | 21:26 |
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| MSameer | faenil: plugins-good should have no issues :) | 21:26 |
| faenil | eheh | 21:27 |
| faenil | https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlmusicplayer/blob/master/rpm/qmlmusicplayer.spec#L19 | 21:27 |
| faenil | I definitely think qt5-qtmultimedia at least should go there | 21:28 |
| MSameer | qt5-qtmultimedia-gsttools qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer | 21:29 |
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| MSameer | i think those should come from ks or pattern | 21:30 |
| qwazix | faenil, back | 21:30 |
| faenil | MSameer, ok thanks :) what about the mediaplayer, what do you think is worth adding as requirement? | 21:30 |
| MSameer | i think nothing | 21:30 |
| MSameer | gst-plugins-good should be in ks too | 21:31 |
| faenil | MSameer, not even qt5-qtmultimedia? | 21:31 |
| MSameer | it's a platform facility? | 21:31 |
| faenil | yeah | 21:31 |
| MSameer | faenil: if it uses it then we add it | 21:31 |
| faenil | well, BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5Multimedia) | 21:32 |
| MSameer | so i think the missing part is qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer | 21:32 |
| qwazix | faenil, I don't know if this helps, I have no experience in rpm http://pkgs.org/opensuse-12.3/opensuse-oss-i586/google-opensans-fonts-1.0-6.1.1.noarch.rpm.html | 21:32 |
| MSameer | faenil: i did: | 21:32 |
| MSameer | [root@localhost Music]# zypper in qt5-qtmultimedia qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer | 21:32 |
| MSameer | The following NEW packages are going to be installed: | 21:33 |
| MSameer | qt5-qtmultimedia-gsttools qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer | 21:33 |
| MSameer | The following packages are going to be upgraded: | 21:33 |
| MSameer | qt5-qtdeclarative-import-multimedia qt5-qtmultimedia | 21:33 |
| faenil | qwazix, I've seen the .spec from openSuse already ;) | 21:33 |
| MSameer | so it had to be upgraded | 21:33 |
| MSameer | so maybe the upgraded qtmultimedia pulls them by default? | 21:33 |
| faenil | what do you think it pulls in | 21:35 |
| MSameer | qt5-qtmultimedia-gsttools qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-mediaservice-gstmediaplayer maybe? | 21:36 |
| faenil | my qtmultimedia is updated | 21:36 |
| faenil | and they're not installed | 21:36 |
| MSameer | mmm | 21:37 |
| MSameer | then they need to come from the ks or pattern i guess | 21:37 |
| faenil | ok | 21:37 |
| faenil | otoh, gst-bad-free is installed by default | 21:37 |
| MSameer | yeah that's needed for camera :p | 21:38 |
| faenil | nokia-videosrc | 21:38 |
| MSameer | yup | 21:38 |
| faenil | ok | 21:38 |
| MSameer | i think so | 21:38 |
| MSameer | but volume keys are not working | 21:40 |
| faenil | I think you didn't understand how alpha this image is :D | 21:40 |
| MSameer | i do :) | 21:41 |
| faenil | what about the status bar with signal, wifi, battery? :D | 21:41 |
| MSameer | but i am reporting issues :P | 21:41 |
| faenil | yeah sure ;) | 21:41 |
| faenil | MSameer, oh bt | 21:41 |
| faenil | btwe | 21:41 |
| faenil | feel free to update | 21:41 |
| faenil | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Status/Matrix | 21:41 |
| Hurrian | qwazix: Looks good! | 21:43 |
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| faenil | Hurrian, o/ | 21:43 |
| Hurrian | Haven't thought of that kind of active state before, but it's nice | 21:43 |
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| qwazix | happy to hear it. I admit that it looks a bit too much on paper but with a thumb over it it will be subtle | 21:44 |
| faenil | :) | 21:44 |
| qwazix | also Hurrian, I was thinking maybe we made the slider and switch a bit more flat, what do you think? IMO they look a bit out of place | 21:45 |
| Hurrian | hmm, yeah, could do with a subtler gradient | 21:45 |
| qwazix | I imagine something more like the N9 volume bar | 21:46 |
| qwazix | (or your clock bars) | 21:46 |
| Hurrian | qwazix: mmm. alright, sure. | 21:46 |
| Hurrian | the clock bars for regular slide controls are overkill ;) | 21:46 |
| faenil | agree :P | 21:47 |
| faenil | w00t, it's about time to go to bed here :D | 21:47 |
| qwazix | not so thick, no, I mean the design language, flat and no rounded corners | 21:47 |
| Hurrian | yep, just like the N9 volume bar. | 21:48 |
| qwazix | ok perfect | 21:48 |
| qwazix | also, while the idea for the active slider looks stunning, the number will be under the users thumb | 21:49 |
| faenil | qwazix, no, it will move up | 21:50 |
| faenil | or right | 21:50 |
| faenil | don't remember :P | 21:50 |
| faenil | but Hurrian already cleared that point up | 21:50 |
| qwazix | Hurrian? up or right? | 21:51 |
| Hurrian | to the right, but when the bubble collides with the edge of the screen, it moves up | 21:51 |
| faenil | right when you're sliding | 21:51 |
| faenil | and up when it gets to the end | 21:51 |
| faenil | oh ok he replied already XD | 21:51 |
| qwazix | ok | 21:52 |
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| Morpog_PC | guys, do maliit themes have same files on nemo as on harmattan? | 22:25 |
| faenil | no idea | 22:25 |
| Morpog_PC | I just created glacier VKB theme for harmattan :) | 22:26 |
| faenil | great :) | 22:26 |
| Morpog_PC | so could be usable for nemo :) | 22:27 |
| faenil | once we get it to work xD | 22:27 |
| Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/2013-08-30_00-30-499esui.png | 22:28 |
| Morpog_PC | there it is | 22:28 |
| faenil | very nice :) looks different from glacier though | 22:29 |
| faenil | looks kind of plastic | 22:29 |
| faenil | don't know | 22:29 |
| faenil | maybe colours are a bit different? | 22:30 |
| Morpog_PC | a bit only | 22:30 |
| special | nemo's VKB is QML. | 22:30 |
| faenil | special, yeah but doesn't it have a style or something? | 22:31 |
| special | nothing too formal, size variables and images | 22:31 |
| faenil | ok | 22:32 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, https://gitorious.org/maliit/maliit-plugins/source/a4e90d60afabc0935a63608112dd3ff35199bc36:nemo-keyboard | 22:32 |
| faenil | ouch sorry | 22:32 |
| faenil | that's the old repo | 22:32 |
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| faenil | Morpog_PC, https://github.com/maliit/plugins/tree/master/nemo-keyboard | 22:32 |
| Morpog_PC | hmm, different image sizes | 22:33 |
| Morpog_PC | svg and png mixed? | 22:33 |
| NeeDforKill | faenil | 22:34 |
| special | you'd have to look and see which are actually used. | 22:34 |
| NeeDforKill | can u give me link for latest image | 22:34 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill, latest image is from few days ago | 22:34 |
| faenil | I recommend building a new one if you have Mer SDK instaleld | 22:34 |
| NeeDforKill | i need link bro | 22:34 |
| NeeDforKill | no,i haven't | 22:34 |
| faenil | then look on backlog :) http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/latest.log.html | 22:35 |
| NeeDforKill | https://www.dropbox.com/s/kr8sre1ob2cglps/n950-270820131123.tar.bz2 | 22:37 |
| NeeDforKill | , | 22:37 |
| NeeDforKill | ? | 22:37 |
| Morpog_PC | faenil, great, will have a look when I got some time. Maybe on sunday if I'm not too wasted from Friday and Saturday partys :) | 22:37 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill, probably | 22:37 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, ahaha | 22:38 |
| qwazix | Hurrian, approve? http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=465 | 22:40 |
| Hurrian | Approved. | 22:40 |
| faenil | ahah :) | 22:40 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, the diagonal lines look weird if images get stretched | 22:41 |
| NeeDforKill | looks nice | 22:41 |
| Morpog_PC | just noticed that on my maliit theme for harmattan | 22:41 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, why get stretched? it's meant to be tiled | 22:41 |
| qwazix | Hurrian, NeeDforKill, thx | 22:42 |
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| Morpog_PC | sure, but default maliit VKB on harmattan does stretching. Just wanted to notice that we have to avoid strechting then. | 22:42 |
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| Morpog_PC | nice job on components definitions btw qwazix | 22:43 |
| NeeDforKill | maliit it's input component? | 22:43 |
| Hurrian | bef0rd: check for DCC viruses? | 22:43 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, :nod: | 22:43 |
| qwazix | and thanks | 22:43 |
| Hurrian | qwazix: Qt/QML can do scaling for us, right? | 22:44 |
| Hurrian | *DPI scaling | 22:44 |
| qwazix | Hurrian, no, it can't | 22:44 |
| qwazix | we have to fix that ourselves | 22:45 |
| Hurrian | ah | 22:45 |
| qwazix | either like ubuntu, pass all sizes through a function u(36) | 22:45 |
| qwazix | which has a small performance penalty | 22:45 |
| Hurrian | …or like Android, which has layouts per DPI size? | 22:45 |
| qwazix | or by multiplying everything with a constant | 22:46 |
| qwazix | another way is to patch Qt but we probably don't want to do that | 22:46 |
| Hurrian | what won't tax an ARM CPU? | 22:46 |
| Hurrian | we don't exactly need pixel-perfect accuracy here | 22:46 |
| qwazix | for the problem with android (and in fact any other platform) see http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=456 | 22:47 |
| qwazix | with the units I am proposing the developer knows how large one will see a control on the screen regardless of device or dpi | 22:48 |
| qwazix | now we've got to solve the problem with bitmaps, and we have several solutions for that, but that's for another post | 22:49 |
| qwazix | spoiler: none is perfect | 22:49 |
| Hurrian | mmm. sounds good. | 22:49 |
| Hurrian | as for bitmaps - either we store really big bitmaps, or have different resource packages per dpi | 22:50 |
| qwazix | or we have svg resources and convert them to bitmaps (a) at compile time or (b) at installation time | 22:50 |
| qwazix | (a) requires different rpm's for different devices and (b) makes installations longer | 22:51 |
| qwazix | qt even supports displaying svg's but Qt guru's say it's a hog (and svg support is limited) | 22:51 |
| Hurrian | qwazix: how about how python compiles .py into .pyc? we could ship svgs with packages, and just have imagemagick or something convert them during install | 22:51 |
| qwazix | yeah, that's (b) | 22:52 |
| qwazix | I'm leaning towards that myself | 22:52 |
| Hurrian | meh, install is already expected to take some time, so let's just have that | 22:52 |
| Morpog_PC | voting for (b) unless it takes takes :) | 22:52 |
| qwazix | that also allows for scaling down big bitmaps if the developer doesn't want to use svg for some reason | 22:53 |
| qwazix | we just need a scaling postinst script for the nemo boilerplate rpm | 22:54 |
| Morpog_PC | omg | 22:54 |
| Morpog_PC | unless it takes ages of course :) | 22:54 |
| qwazix | which reads an environment variable containing the scaling factor and converts | 22:55 |
| qwazix | It shouldn't take ages. I believe it will be unnoticeable, but we'll have to test | 22:55 |
| qwazix | Anyway, I'm off to bed. Have a good night | 22:56 |
| Morpog_PC | same here | 22:56 |
| Morpog_PC | night all | 22:56 |
| faenil | wo wo, missed a discussion here | 22:58 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, night | 22:58 |
| faenil | qwazix, night | 23:00 |
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