| lpotter | huh? whoo.? whhhaa? | 00:11 |
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| faenil | lpotter, waaaa | 00:13 |
| lpotter | most of the old TT/Nokia qml team are in australia | 00:14 |
| faenil | lpotter, is there any australian in Jolla hanging here? | 00:14 |
| lpotter | yes. most of the tt/nokia qml team | 00:15 |
| lpotter | oh. in the irc? hmmm | 00:15 |
| lpotter | yes. | 00:16 |
| special | but they're secret | 00:17 |
| lpotter | we dont let them out of the code dungeon much | 00:17 |
| faenil | lol | 00:20 |
| lpotter | but they have plenty of pizza and beer | 00:21 |
| lpotter | and coffee/tea | 00:21 |
| faenil | ahaha | 00:22 |
| special | I try to keep them as busy as I can | 00:27 |
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| w00t | sledges: did you have any luck with theme setup in packaging? | 08:21 |
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| locusf | http://pastie.org/8276517 <- maliit errorsx | 08:48 |
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| cxl000 | deztructor, Could you have a look at https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/fuse/pull/3 as fuse is a build req for cor and statefs* | 10:58 |
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| deztructor | cxl000: yes, i'll check it today | 10:59 |
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| cxl000 | thanks. | 11:01 |
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| deztructor | cxl000: fine, i think Aard can merge it | 11:03 |
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| alterego | Haven't logged in to facebook for over a week, feel quite refreshed .. | 11:10 |
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| sledges | w00t, testing packaging now | 11:52 |
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| faenil | good afternoon o/ | 13:21 |
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| locusf | so, ofono issues are not to be found on my latest image | 13:28 |
| locusf | at least not yet | 13:28 |
| locusf | gotta reflash with faenils ks to be sure | 13:28 |
| faenil | great :) maybe Aard can say more about the ofono problems he was taking about? | 13:28 |
| locusf | Warning: repo problem: nothing provides lipstick-qt5 >= 0.12.7 needed by lipstick-colorful-home-qt5-0.5.3-6.69.Nemo.UX.MTF.armv7hl, | 13:28 |
| Aard | locusf: as in, modem comes up reliably every time? | 13:29 |
| locusf | also | 13:29 |
| locusf | Aard: yeah after entering pin for sim card | 13:29 |
| Aard | locusf: try a sim without pin | 13:29 |
| locusf | Aard: hmm indeed | 13:29 |
| locusf | faenil: do you know anything about the repo problem, can you reproduce by running mic? | 13:30 |
| Aard | modem seems to start more reliably with sim query, I noticed that as well | 13:30 |
| faenil | locusf, jpetrell just changed lipstick's version to an old one | 13:30 |
| faenil | I looked for him, but he's not here | 13:30 |
| faenil | I noticed that and wanted to ask him why | 13:30 |
| locusf | faenil: ffffuuuu | 13:30 |
| w00t | he vanished | 13:31 |
| w00t | let me look | 13:31 |
| faenil | w00t, he tagged v0.10 | 13:32 |
| faenil | instead of 0.12.blabla | 13:32 |
| w00t | I'd guess he misread the latest tag | 13:32 |
| faenil | most likely | 13:32 |
| locusf | yeah git tag -l gives those too | 13:32 |
| faenil | w00t, anyway, our homescreen has been crashing once every 2 mins since yesterday :D | 13:33 |
| faenil | I guess the problem is somewhere here https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/commit/bc0c66a6baf7268b4ac13b0904a549f1922c4242 | 13:34 |
| faenil | as maybe we're missing something | 13:34 |
| w00t | get a backtrace | 13:34 |
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| faenil | w00t, yeah I've just joined, still have to start everything :P | 13:36 |
| faenil | I feel happy because I finished early today \o/ | 13:37 |
| w00t | good | 13:37 |
| faenil | let's start | 13:37 |
| locusf | hmm it build 0.10.7 still | 13:38 |
| locusf | https://build.merproject.org/package/binaries?package=lipstick-qt5&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Amw&repository=latest_armv7hl | 13:38 |
| w00t | oh for christ's sake | 13:38 |
| w00t | why did it do that | 13:38 |
| faenil | locusf, it's still building | 13:39 |
| faenil | give it some time | 13:39 |
| locusf | sure for next_ but for everything else its succeeded | 13:39 |
| faenil | he's right, 10.7 :O | 13:39 |
| w00t | phaeron: do you have any idea what's gotten confused here? | 13:40 |
| locusf | give jpetrell a plush monkey the next time someone sees him | 13:40 |
| w00t | phaeron: lipstick accidentally got tagged at a way old version, I tagged it with a higher one, the last known SHA is correct, but it's built the wrong version | 13:40 |
| faenil | w00t, have you deleted v10 tag? | 13:41 |
| w00t | no, and there's no need to do so, this should do the right thing | 13:41 |
| locusf | have you ever had this problem? | 13:41 |
| locusf | before I mean | 13:41 |
| w00t | no, which is why i'm asking the almighty phaeron for his wisdom and compassion to fix all my problems and make the world good again :) | 13:42 |
| locusf | :) | 13:42 |
| faenil | has anybody seen this instead? I'm setting up armv7hl targer, but I think something got screwed in the process | 13:42 |
| faenil | ahaha :) | 13:42 |
| faenil | /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: i386 architecture of input file `main.o' is incompatible with arm output | 13:42 |
| locusf | I had that too | 13:42 |
| locusf | but different words | 13:42 |
| faenil | mess with architectures | 13:42 |
| locusf | cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option '-mfloat-abi=hard' | 13:43 |
| locusf | cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option '-mfpu=vfpv3-d16' | 13:43 |
| locusf | cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option '-mno-thumb' | 13:43 |
| sledges | w00t, done, PR ready | 13:43 |
| faenil | sledges, o/ | 13:43 |
| sledges | \o ciao :) | 13:43 |
| phaeron | w00t: does the old tag sit at the new revision ? | 13:44 |
| w00t | phaeron: hmm, I guess both do yes | 13:44 |
| phaeron | or .. the new tag that specifies an old version sits at the same sha1 revision :D | 13:44 |
| phaeron | while it has a more recent committer date. | 13:45 |
| phaeron | so it will be used in preference | 13:45 |
| w00t | my date should be ok | 13:45 |
| w00t | I'll just try remove the old tag | 13:45 |
| phaeron | the newer was pushed more recently , right ? | 13:46 |
| w00t | yes | 13:46 |
| phaeron | so yes you need to remove the rogue tag | 13:46 |
| locusf | also hey phaeron :) | 13:47 |
| phaeron | locusf: hey :) | 13:47 |
| phaeron | long time no see again :) | 13:47 |
| locusf | yeah :) | 13:47 |
| w00t | retagged | 13:47 |
| locusf | was just gonna say the same :) | 13:47 |
| faenil | tagged correctly now | 13:48 |
| faenil | and failed to build xD | 13:48 |
| w00t | .. | 13:48 |
| * w00t is going to go on a murdering spree | 13:49 | |
| locusf | on x86_64 it is | 13:49 |
| w00t | no | 13:49 |
| w00t | it's unresolvable | 13:49 |
| w00t | which is thanks to all the other build failures on there | 13:49 |
| locusf | ah | 13:49 |
| faenil | ah yeah only x86 as usual | 13:50 |
| faenil | w00t, know anything about my arch error from ls? | 13:51 |
| faenil | ld? | 13:51 |
| w00t | Sage: I want to remove xterm from nemo:devel:mw, any objections? | 13:51 |
| w00t | faenil: no | 13:51 |
| locusf | succeeds, good version too | 13:53 |
| locusf | time to reflash | 13:54 |
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| faenil | I don't know wtf is wrong with my arm target xD | 13:55 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#415 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/415 | 14:01 |
| locusf | ok reflashed, looking good with plymouth here faenil | 14:10 |
| faenil | locusf, great ;) | 14:10 |
| locusf | the icons don't work though | 14:11 |
| sledges | e? | 14:11 |
| sledges | :D | 14:11 |
| sledges | did someone mention icons :)) | 14:11 |
| locusf | its set to darko | 14:11 |
| locusf | theme I mean | 14:11 |
| faenil | locusf, missing meegotouch-theme-darko in the .ks I think | 14:11 |
| faenil | don't know if I pushed the latest update | 14:11 |
| faenil | to the .ks | 14:11 |
| faenil | just try installing darko | 14:12 |
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| locusf | faenil: ok | 14:12 |
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| faenil | w00t, is there verbose mode in mb? | 14:17 |
| faenil | to try understand where it's failing | 14:17 |
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| faenil | let's build the image from scratch... | 14:21 |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlsettings/pull/4 | 14:22 |
| faenil | locusf, I was about to push the same :/ | 14:22 |
| faenil | fixed yet last night, and couldn't get this damn armv7 target to work so postponed the PR lol | 14:22 |
| faenil | fixed that* | 14:22 |
| locusf | faenil: ok | 14:24 |
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| faenil | do you have a workinga armv7hl sb2 target for wayland? | 14:24 |
| locusf | Nenope | 14:24 |
| locusf | -Ne | 14:24 |
| faenil | ok, then I'll push that ks as well, once I'm sure it works | 14:25 |
| sledges | Ne in my homeland means no.. | 14:25 |
| faenil | :) | 14:26 |
| faenil | sledges, you're quiet today, sup mate? :) | 14:26 |
| sledges | work | 14:26 |
| sledges | :) | 14:26 |
| faenil | owww :P | 14:27 |
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| sledges | hehe | 14:27 |
| sledges | how is it going? | 14:27 |
| faenil | I'm stuck with creating a working arm target updated to wayland :D | 14:27 |
| faenil | but apart from that, I guess we have to do some wiki work | 14:27 |
| faenil | before fixing stuff | 14:28 |
| sledges | mMm | 14:28 |
| faenil | so that more people can join and contribute | 14:28 |
| sledges | i fixed up broken moslo kernel | 14:28 |
| sledges | was main blocker | 14:28 |
| sledges | in wiki | 14:28 |
| faenil | broken for what? | 14:28 |
| sledges | to flash n9, didt work | 14:28 |
| faenil | main blocker where? | 14:28 |
| faenil | ? :O | 14:29 |
| sledges | ^ | 14:29 |
| sledges | :) | 14:29 |
| faenil | but, locusf has n9? | 14:29 |
| sledges | yes he used the fix | 14:29 |
| sledges | long time ago | 14:29 |
| faenil | ah :) didn't know there was a problem on n9 | 14:29 |
| sledges | but now its finally in wiki | 14:29 |
| faenil | ahhhh ok!!! | 14:29 |
| faenil | :P | 14:29 |
| faenil | we have to write down the current status of nemo wayland | 14:30 |
| faenil | and start using nemo bugtracker aggressively | 14:30 |
| sledges | i was smiling from ear to ear seeing green https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Qt5PortingCoreApps ;) | 14:32 |
| faenil | sledges, so, is that fix for theme final? | 14:32 |
| faenil | yeah it's nice to see it now :) | 14:32 |
| sledges | faenil, it will show all button backgrounds and borders finally | 14:33 |
| faenil | slaine, I meant the reboot thing | 14:33 |
| faenil | oh crap, sorry bro slaine | 14:34 |
| faenil | sledges, ^ | 14:34 |
| faenil | xD | 14:34 |
| slaine | lol | 14:34 |
| sledges | ? | 14:34 |
| slaine | slTAB | 14:34 |
| sledges | reboot for changes to take effect? | 14:34 |
| faenil | sledges, yup | 14:34 |
| faenil | slaine, yeah, will you ever forgive me lol | 14:34 |
| slaine | I guess I could try, I don't normally do that though ;) | 14:35 |
| sledges | faenil, one step at a time, we don't want to address dynamically changing themes as soon as they are installed, just yet | 14:35 |
| faenil | owwww :D | 14:35 |
| sledges | so now reboot is needed | 14:35 |
| faenil | sledges, no problem just wanted to know if that was the final fix for the moment | 14:35 |
| faenil | ok ;) | 14:35 |
| faenil | but it shouldn't be needed if it's installed by default in the image, I hope | 14:35 |
| sledges | ah understood, for the moment yes | 14:35 |
| faenil | as it's not cached | 14:35 |
| sledges | i thought the same | 14:35 |
| sledges | but then remembered qwazix intention to keep two themes | 14:36 |
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| sledges | so it will hit back ;) | 14:36 |
| sledges | we'll worry when needed | 14:36 |
| faenil | yeah | 14:36 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#416 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/416 | 14:37 |
| faenil | if there's any maintainer around, please review https://github.com/nemomobile/meegotouch-theme-darko/pull/2 | 14:38 |
| faenil | so I can build new image and test it :P | 14:38 |
| slaine | How's the Qt5 migration going ? | 14:38 |
| faenil | slaine, good, good, all core apps ported, we're starting to test stuff | 14:39 |
| sledges | faenil, "just add fuel" :D | 14:39 |
| sledges | http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/sledge:/branches:/nemo:/devel:/ux/latest_i486/ | 14:39 |
| faenil | while waiting for UI guys to do UI work for UI components :P | 14:39 |
| faenil | sledges, shhh :P | 14:39 |
| slaine | well done guys | 14:39 |
| sledges | 8)~ | 14:39 |
| sledges | cheers slaine | 14:40 |
| sledges | how's you? | 14:40 |
| slaine | crazy busy | 14:40 |
| sledges | yay | 14:40 |
| faenil | ow crap I forgot to send my picture for Jolla TShirt contest! :( | 14:40 |
| faenil | oops wrong chat | 14:40 |
| sledges | same here | 14:41 |
| sledges | :D | 14:41 |
| sledges | oops :DD | 14:41 |
| locusf | http://pastie.org/8277306 | 14:42 |
| faenil | locusf, ahahah lol | 14:42 |
| faenil | well, pretty clear error :D | 14:42 |
| locusf | yeah :D | 14:42 |
| locusf | but wtf dynamicform | 14:43 |
| sledges | was about to say that.. | 14:43 |
| sledges | QAJAX - dynamically generated QML :D | 14:43 |
| faenil | xD | 14:44 |
| locusf | hmm | 14:44 |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlsettings/pull/5 | 14:45 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#415 Accepted promotion request | 14:45 |
| faenil | why is it even using that? | 14:45 |
| locusf | its a mustache template | 14:47 |
| sledges | nice | 14:47 |
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| faenil | yes but why | 14:48 |
| sledges | refactoring | 14:49 |
| faenil | :/ | 14:49 |
| faenil | care about elaborating more? | 14:49 |
| sledges | but also meaningful TODO thee ;) | 14:49 |
| sledges | *there | 14:49 |
| faenil | hell yeah | 14:50 |
| sledges | could you do that without template? | 14:50 |
| sledges | would a new component be derived? | 14:50 |
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| sledges | i thought that many of its contents would change (to complicate matters further), but it isnt | 14:50 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#416 Accepted promotion request | 14:53 |
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| faenil | sledges, couldn't you just use | 14:55 |
| faenil | createQmlObject('import bla bla ' + text + 'rest' ) ? | 14:55 |
| locusf | it would probably hurt readability, given that that component is quite big | 14:56 |
| faenil | for a few "+" ? | 14:57 |
| faenil | it's not like you can't write it multiple line... | 14:57 |
| locusf | ok yeah | 14:58 |
| locusf | faenil: do you want me to fix it? | 15:10 |
| faenil | locusf, I don't issue orders :P | 15:10 |
| locusf | oh :) | 15:10 |
| faenil | do as you wish :) | 15:10 |
| faenil | I don't know why mustache was used when an easy alternative was already available | 15:10 |
| faenil | there could be a specific reason | 15:10 |
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| sledges | git blame | 15:11 |
| sledges | :D | 15:11 |
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| faenil | sledges, we already know, there's only one person who worked on qmlsettings :D | 15:13 |
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| faenil | and I'm fairly sure he had his reasons to use mustache :D | 15:20 |
| faenil | damn there is so much old stuff on wiki | 15:23 |
| faenil | it's becoming a mess | 15:24 |
| Aard | isn't that the definition of 'wiki'? | 15:24 |
| faenil | :D | 15:24 |
| faenil | Aard, actually wikipedia's content is continuously updated :P | 15:24 |
| faenil | it's just that we're lazy | 15:25 |
| Aard | then just move the content to wikipedia? | 15:25 |
| locusf | :D | 15:29 |
| faenil | Aard, killer answer | 15:30 |
| locusf | w00t: what do you think about the dynamic form, should I just get rid of it and use bindings | 15:32 |
| faenil | for example, this should be completely rewritten from scratch | 15:32 |
| faenil | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/GettingStartedInFixingBugs | 15:32 |
| faenil | in the meanwhile, I'll just create onemorepage™ | 15:35 |
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| sledges | :D | 15:37 |
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| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlsettings/pull/5 <- could someone OK | 15:47 |
| locusf | hmm I lost my smoothness due to using faenils .ks | 15:48 |
| faenil | locusf, remember you modified the config on the n9 | 15:49 |
| faenil | (don't know if that helped in the end) | 15:49 |
| locusf | faenil: it didn't | 15:51 |
| faenil | ok | 15:51 |
| faenil | then try hard to remember what you changed | 15:51 |
| faenil | anyway, it's smooth here | 15:51 |
| faenil | QML apps are not, as usual | 15:51 |
| faenil | but the homescreen is smooth | 15:51 |
| locusf | btw filemuncher launcher is broken | 15:53 |
| faenil | looks okay to me from github | 15:54 |
| faenil | what's wrong? | 15:54 |
| locusf | Jan 01 01:37:24 localhost lipstick[353]: /usr/bin/invoker: invalid option -- 'f' | 15:54 |
| locusf | well there is nothing to invoke :D | 15:54 |
| faenil | locusf, there is no f XD | 15:54 |
| faenil | ahhaha lol | 15:55 |
| faenil | right | 15:55 |
| locusf | whoops | 15:55 |
| faenil | locusf, you deleted the bin when working :D | 15:56 |
| faenil | when porting* | 15:56 |
| locusf | yep | 15:56 |
| faenil | I'm working on wiki | 15:57 |
| locusf | good | 15:57 |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlfilemuncher/pull/10 | 15:57 |
| faenil | go on | 15:59 |
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| locusf | btw tested qmlgallery again, the gestures do work ok | 16:00 |
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| faenil | locusf, ok, it was bugged already, so it's good it kind of works at least | 16:03 |
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| w00t | locusf: if you can easily get rid of the dynamic form, go right ahead | 16:08 |
| w00t | i'd be happy to see it gone | 16:09 |
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| sledges | :} | 16:09 |
| locusf | hmm ok | 16:09 |
| faenil | w00t, <faenil> createQmlObject('import bla bla ' + text + 'rest' ) ? | 16:11 |
| faenil | was there any specific reason why you used mustache? | 16:11 |
| w00t | faenil: I didn't | 16:12 |
| w00t | the code was inherited | 16:12 |
| faenil | ah ok | 16:12 |
| w00t | rozhkov may remember why | 16:12 |
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| locusf | guah, 21G of 32G of memory used :f | 16:24 |
| faenil | ?? | 16:24 |
| locusf | zfs likes caching | 16:25 |
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| faenil | phew, I'm done | 16:55 |
| faenil | Please read it, any feedback is appreciated | 16:56 |
| faenil | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Armv7hl_Development_Guide | 16:56 |
| sledges | faenil, \o/ | 16:56 |
| sledges | how did you solve the sb target pest? | 16:57 |
| faenil | not fixed yet, I was writing the guide :D | 16:57 |
| faenil | now I'll setup a new sb2 target and see | 16:57 |
| sledges | ok :D | 16:58 |
| faenil | just build image from scratch | 16:58 |
| faenil | built* | 16:58 |
| sledges | so there's no dedicated sb2 -wayland- .ks ? | 16:58 |
| sledges | (for arm) | 16:58 |
| faenil | yes there is? | 16:58 |
| sledges | written by you i mean | 16:58 |
| sledges | just like you had for vm | 16:59 |
| sledges | i486 | 16:59 |
| faenil | sledges, have you read the guide? | 16:59 |
| sledges | :D | 16:59 |
| sledges | no | 16:59 |
| sledges | xD | 16:59 |
| faenil | THEN RTFM | 16:59 |
| faenil | :D | 16:59 |
| sledges | just saw this: | 16:59 |
| sledges | Now setup the SB2 target by following the guide available here | 16:59 |
| sledges | xD | 16:59 |
| * sledges needs sleep and coffe | 16:59 | |
| faenil | I'll change that to "now finish setting up" :P | 16:59 |
| sledges | preferably in that order :D | 16:59 |
| sledges | ok :)) | 17:00 |
| * sledges hometime | 17:00 | |
| sledges | cyasz | 17:00 |
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| faenil | sledges, cya | 17:00 |
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| faenil | wook, you're the perfect tester | 17:03 |
| wook | am i? | 17:03 |
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| faenil | yup, you don't even have mer sdk installed | 17:04 |
| wook | no, I don't | 17:05 |
| faenil | so, you're the perfect tester for the guide :) | 17:05 |
| faenil | you have to setup everything from scratch :D | 17:05 |
| wook | crap, how much hdd? | 17:06 |
| wook | win? x64? | 17:06 |
| wook | nux 12.x x32? | 17:06 |
| faenil | oh, right, you're on windows... | 17:06 |
| faenil | pfff | 17:06 |
| wook | yep | 17:06 |
| wook | :D | 17:06 |
| wook | or you need x? | 17:06 |
| faenil | no x | 17:06 |
| wook | ok, I am up to fresh one p4 | 17:07 |
| wook | (used only for half-life when my niece is here) | 17:07 |
| wook | :D | 17:07 |
| faenil | :) | 17:08 |
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| wook | was up to do it 2day....but too much busy with bsd D: | 17:09 |
| faenil | ehe | 17:10 |
| faenil | what are you doing on bsd? | 17:10 |
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| wook | I was debugging smthn | 17:10 |
| faenil | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuu | 17:12 |
| faenil | same error, argh | 17:12 |
| wook | ck | 17:12 |
| wook | again? | 17:12 |
| faenil | collect2: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault], core dumped | 17:12 |
| faenil | /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: i386 architecture of input file `main.o' is incompatible with arm output | 17:12 |
| wook | is there anything without err? | 17:12 |
| wook | :P | 17:12 |
| Stskeeps | make clean | 17:12 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, I'm using mb, it uses temp paths for makefiles I think | 17:13 |
| faenil | sb2-init -L "--sysroot=/" -C "--sysroot=/" -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic -m sdk-build -n -N -t / nemoWayland_armv7hl /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc | 17:14 |
| faenil | Using /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc to detect target architecture: | 17:14 |
| faenil | collect2: cannot find 'ld' | 17:14 |
| faenil | that's from sb2-init | 17:15 |
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| faenil | sb2-init: Target architecture is 'armv7hl' | 17:18 |
| faenil | sb2-init: Host architecture is 'i[3456]86' | 17:18 |
| faenil | if anybody has an idea... :P | 17:20 |
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| locusf | so whats going on | 18:14 |
| faenil | back | 18:16 |
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| faenil | locusf, nothing, my arm target doesn't work | 18:16 |
| locusf | ok | 18:16 |
| locusf | my x86 and arm targets don't work either | 18:19 |
| faenil | yay | 18:22 |
| faenil | maybe something got screwed in toolchains packages? | 18:22 |
| locusf | I dunno | 18:22 |
| locusf | maybe | 18:22 |
| faenil | w00t, who can we ask about toolchains? | 18:22 |
| faenil | When the user makes the error of throwing an incompatible object (in my | 18:27 |
| faenil | > case, and i386 ELF file) into an ARM ELF link, ld generates the | 18:27 |
| faenil | > "architecture of input file is incompatible with arm output" error as it should | 18:27 |
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| faenil | mmm now MerSDK wants to downgrade lots of stuff | 18:29 |
| faenil | new release maybe | 18:30 |
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| locusf | what was the sdk update script? | 18:32 |
| faenil | sdk-upgrade | 18:33 |
| faenil | if there's a new release | 18:33 |
| faenil | otherwise | 18:33 |
| faenil | sudo sdk-version --latest --go | 18:34 |
| faenil | forget sdk-upgrade | 18:34 |
| locusf | I updated the wiki page with latest image location | 18:35 |
| faenil | ah right I forgot to write that | 18:36 |
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| locusf | hmm I think I have a working arm target | 18:40 |
| locusf | what do you need faenil? | 18:40 |
| faenil | I need to fix my issue :( | 18:41 |
| faenil | you followed my guide to set it up? | 18:41 |
| locusf | I followed my own guide 2 days ago :) | 18:42 |
| faenil | then can you see if I missed anything? | 18:43 |
| faenil | I already setup arm targets in the past | 18:43 |
| faenil | and it always worked | 18:43 |
| faenil | I don't know what's the issue now ... | 18:43 |
| locusf | yeah | 18:43 |
| locusf | I don't see any issues, I used the same mic command but my own ks | 18:43 |
| locusf | should make a difference | 18:43 |
| locusf | shouldn't | 18:44 |
| faenil | locusf, mind comparing the ks? | 18:49 |
| locusf | faenil: well its the images .ks | 18:50 |
| locusf | not a sb2 target ks | 18:50 |
| faenil | ok | 18:50 |
| locusf | but sure I can put it into a pastebin | 18:50 |
| locusf | http://pastie.org/8277886 | 18:51 |
| faenil | ah well it's exactly the ks on my repo | 18:52 |
| locusf | not exactly | 18:52 |
| locusf | check with meld, I'm not 100% sure its the same | 18:52 |
| locusf | small differences, I don't have the plymouth stuff | 18:53 |
| faenil | only real differences are meego-rpm-config and glibc-devel | 18:55 |
| locusf | yeah | 18:55 |
| faenil | which I added because you had to install those afterwards anyway | 18:55 |
| locusf | thats a nice touch tough :) | 18:55 |
| faenil | but maybe there was a reason if you have to install them afterwards :/ | 18:55 |
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| faenil | locusf, fixed | 19:14 |
| locusf | faenil: what is? | 19:14 |
| faenil | FUTURE USER: if you happen to see something like /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: i386 architecture of input file `main.o' is incompatible with arm output ....then DELETE stuff inside /home/yourUsername/rpmbuild/BUILD and BUILDROOT and SOURCES | 19:15 |
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| faenil | locusf, so, what are you up to | 19:17 |
| locusf | faenil: nothing atm | 19:19 |
| locusf | just installed my colorful-home at my emulator | 19:19 |
| locusf | (for some glacier mockupping) | 19:19 |
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| faenil | you're doing mockups too now? :D | 19:20 |
| locusf | keep your pants on, its just something small :) | 19:21 |
| faenil | :) | 19:21 |
| locusf | how do I activate lock screen in emulator? | 19:21 |
| locusf | eg. virtualbox | 19:22 |
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| locusf | hmm just waiting probably works | 19:25 |
| locusf | faenil: anything you'd need help with? | 19:25 |
| faenil | locusf, lockscreen works | 19:27 |
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| locusf | faenil: ? | 19:29 |
| faenil | in VM, it works | 19:30 |
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| locusf | yeah | 19:31 |
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| locusf | should we debug maliit? | 19:38 |
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| faenil | locusf, was updating wiki sorry | 19:43 |
| locusf | np | 19:43 |
| locusf | me too | 19:43 |
| faenil | locusf, can you update this? https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Status/Matrix#NEMO_WAYLAND_STATUS | 19:43 |
| faenil | with what you know | 19:43 |
| locusf | I am | 19:44 |
| locusf | updating | 19:44 |
| locusf | now | 19:44 |
| faenil | ok ;) | 19:44 |
| faenil | to people still awake: http://i8910tuning.com/2013/08/28/some-updates-to-nemomobiles-wiki-guide-for-n9n950-and-vm-development/ | 19:44 |
| locusf | grr wrong matrix | 19:44 |
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| locusf | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Wayland_status_matrix <- was doing this | 19:45 |
| faenil | there was one already, so I thought it was worth using that and using the same page | 19:46 |
| locusf | yes good point | 19:46 |
| faenil | but I agree that the old matrix isn't very readable | 19:47 |
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| locusf | entered some that I know | 19:49 |
| faenil | ok thank you | 19:50 |
| locusf | how do I do GPRS/EDGE/HSPA? | 19:50 |
| faenil | no idea :) | 19:50 |
| faenil | locusf, notifications working? | 19:52 |
| locusf | faenil: yes for calls | 19:52 |
| faenil | you also wrote text | 19:52 |
| locusf | hmm that doesn't | 19:53 |
| locusf | fixed | 19:59 |
| locusf | everything I think I have tested is there now | 19:59 |
| locusf | hows the bugtracker doing? | 20:01 |
| faenil | bugtracker is there already | 20:01 |
| locusf | any active bugs to it? | 20:02 |
| faenil | we just have to use it and ask people to fill it | 20:02 |
| faenil | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/ | 20:02 |
| locusf | theres no nemo | 20:02 |
| locusf | ah nemomobile | 20:02 |
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| locusf | ok got in | 20:06 |
| locusf | I'll head to bed now, see you tomorrow | 20:08 |
| faenil | oh, ok :/ | 20:08 |
| faenil | sleep well | 20:08 |
| faenil | ps | 20:08 |
| faenil | no text to input WPA here | 20:08 |
| locusf | well any wifi key | 20:08 |
| faenil | nope | 20:09 |
| faenil | no text input | 20:09 |
| locusf | at all? | 20:09 |
| locusf | with newest qmlsettings? | 20:09 |
| faenil | yep | 20:09 |
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| locusf | hmm odd | 20:09 |
| locusf | I do get it | 20:09 |
| faenil | on vm | 20:09 |
| locusf | https://build.merproject.org/package/binaries?package=qmlsettings&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Aapps&repository=latest_armv7hl | 20:10 |
| locusf | zypper info qmlsettings | 20:10 |
| locusf | well vm doesn't probably have wifi | 20:10 |
| faenil | I built it myself | 20:11 |
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| faenil | I'm on n950 | 20:11 |
| locusf | ah pl | 20:11 |
| locusf | ok | 20:11 |
| locusf | hmm | 20:11 |
| locusf | will check tomorrow | 20:11 |
| faenil | locusf, ah I used the wrong file ;) | 20:11 |
| faenil | sleep well | 20:11 |
| locusf | you too :) | 20:11 |
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| cxl000 | Aard, Could you look at commiting https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/fuse/pull/3 it replaces pull/1 which is broken a can just be closed. | 20:18 |
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| faenil | w00t, ping | 20:32 |
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| qwazix | faenil, hey | 20:43 |
| faenil | special, how can I setup wifi pass manually so that settings apps connects without asking for pw? | 20:43 |
| faenil | qwazix, hey :) | 20:43 |
| special | assume that the settings application is the only way to set a wifi password | 20:44 |
| qwazix | I was thinking about the components, and we want to be device independent, don't we? | 20:44 |
| special | it's technically possible on commandline, but it's very awkward | 20:44 |
| qwazix | In that case we need a size unit other than px | 20:44 |
| qwazix | I don't know if Qt5 has something baked in now, but I think I have found a very nice solution for nemo: http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=456 | 20:45 |
| faenil | special, via wpa_supplicant I guess | 20:45 |
| * faenil clicks | 20:46 | |
| qwazix | long story short, have a specific device factor that all sizes will be multiplied with (this factor can be calculated via simple formula) | 20:46 |
| special | faenil: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Minimal/Networking looks relevant | 20:47 |
| faenil | special, awesome just what I was looking for, thank you | 20:48 |
| special | qwazix: Qt5 has no concept of device independent sizes. | 20:48 |
| special | ubuntu touch's components have something. I don't know much about it. | 20:49 |
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| qwazix | special, is it possible to multiply all qml sizes with a number at runtime without forcing the developer to write width: 35*UI_SIZE_FACTOR every time? | 20:50 |
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| special | qwazix: take a look at what ubuntu touch is doing. iirc, they have a wrapper function that converts sizes so it can be used like diu(200) | 20:50 |
| special | (that is a performance hit and a bit of a complication in QML, but oh well.) | 20:51 |
| qwazix | hmm, sounds ok-ish, faenil what do you say? | 20:51 |
| faenil | qwazix, interesting read :) | 20:51 |
| qwazix | thanks | 20:52 |
| special | silica primarily uses the theme object for all sizing | 20:52 |
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| faenil | which makes sense | 20:52 |
| special | that does help enforce consistency; people use the right padding and the right font sizes and so on | 20:53 |
| qwazix | yeah, we want this | 20:53 |
| special | it's also more flexible than it looks in that you can do things like "90% of fontSizeLarge" | 20:53 |
| qwazix | ok so we either use a function, or tell people to multiply by a number in the theme object, it's essentially the same thing | 20:56 |
| special | er, let me clarify | 20:56 |
| special | to scale to device, you'd change the theme's size values. Applications should just use those and not worry. | 20:56 |
| special | and they could use values derived from those if necessary | 20:57 |
| faenil | yeah you still need the factor in the theme object :/ | 20:57 |
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| special | I haven't seen an implementation of device-independent units that I like, so far | 20:58 |
| special | I'm not sure what apple does precisely | 20:58 |
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| qwazix | special, apple does the braindamaged thing of just multiplying everything by two for retina displays | 21:01 |
| qwazix | and gets the developer to make double bitmaps like cake.png -> cake@2x.png | 21:02 |
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| special | ah. | 21:04 |
| Venemo_ | I think the components should automatically adjust themselves to the DPI of the current device | 21:04 |
| faenil | yeah I've seen those :/ | 21:04 |
| Venemo_ | in that case, if the app developer uses anchors, he will never need to care about pixel sizes | 21:04 |
| faenil | (the 2@ images) | 21:04 |
| faenil | special, I think your reasoning makes sense but only if developer doesn't want custom sized controls | 21:05 |
| faenil | in that case, you lose the theme sizes | 21:05 |
| special | if the developer wants custom sizes, the developer is assuming responsibility for those decisions, no? | 21:05 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Qwazix how should that work with pixel graphics? | 21:05 |
| special | DIU is more flexible in that regard though, true. | 21:06 |
| faenil | special, you're there to make developer's life easier :P | 21:06 |
| special | faenil: more often, they need to be beaten into submission instead :p | 21:06 |
| faenil | ahah :) | 21:06 |
| faenil | is there a new Apple manager at Jolla? :D | 21:07 |
| special | an apple manager? | 21:07 |
| faenil | apple is known for telling users and developers what they can and mostly CAN'T do :P | 21:08 |
| special | haha | 21:08 |
| special | personal opinion, of course. But, developers tend to do stupid things if you let them. | 21:08 |
| faenil | agree, but as usual, you can't enforce rules just because "some" of them behave like that | 21:09 |
| special | I was trying to clean up the application data/cache folders on my mac recently. Huge mess. | 21:09 |
| faenil | :) | 21:09 |
| faenil | I'm wondering why zypper dup decided it was okay to replace ti-sgx with libMesa | 21:11 |
| faenil | on n950... | 21:11 |
| special | a dependency that sgx isn't satisfying, perhaps? | 21:12 |
| qwazix | Morpog_Mobile, I haven't given much thought to graphics, but one idea is to encourage vector graphics and do the conversion at install time (or package time?) | 21:12 |
| special | there's a specific GL library name where that can come up. | 21:12 |
| Venemo_ | faenil: I actually agree with rules and conventions, if they make sense | 21:12 |
| faenil | Venemo_, yes, up to some point ;) | 21:12 |
| faenil | anarchy doesn't help anyone | 21:12 |
| Venemo_ | +1 | 21:13 |
| Venemo_ | nah, good night | 21:13 |
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| faenil | nighe | 21:13 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Better at package time | 21:14 |
| qwazix | In design and art if you're good enough you don't need rules, and you might do even better if you break them. But rules help those who aren't good to be good enough. | 21:14 |
| faenil | agree | 21:14 |
| qwazix | Morpog_Mobile, you'd then have to have different rpm's for N9 and Nexus 7 however | 21:14 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Hmmm | 21:15 |
| faenil | qwazix, Morpog_Mobile in case you missed it, https://twitter.com/faenil/status/372806486956978176 | 21:15 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Could take ages on device | 21:15 |
| Morpog_Mobile | faenil, i seen :) | 21:15 |
| qwazix | faenil, thanks | 21:16 |
| faenil | Jan 01 00:00:05 localhost oneshot[249]: oneshot: /etc/oneshot.d/0/setcaps-timed-qt5.sh - FAIL | 21:16 |
| faenil | special, probably because of kernel config? | 21:16 |
| faenil | Jan 01 00:00:05 localhost oneshot[249]: Failed to set capabilities on file `/usr/bin/timed-qt5' | 21:16 |
| special | hm | 21:16 |
| qwazix | Morpog_Mobile, it shouldn't take ages, if there aren't too many svg filters imagick should be able to convert svg's very quickly. | 21:16 |
| special | that's a bad thing | 21:16 |
| special | can you look at the script and figure out what's failing exactly? | 21:17 |
| faenil | well it does setcap SYS_RAW_TIME+ep /usr/bin/timed-qt5 | 21:17 |
| faenil | something like that | 21:17 |
| Morpog_Mobile | qwazix, if :) | 21:17 |
| special | and why does that fail | 21:17 |
| faenil | special, "Not supported" | 21:17 |
| qwazix | browsers display pretty complex svg's in real time (and with javascript and SMIL animating their properties) | 21:17 |
| special | sounds like it might be kernel, yeah | 21:18 |
| special | without that capability, timed can't set the system clock. | 21:18 |
| faenil | yeah, guessed that :/ | 21:18 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Well inkscape is heavy with lots of filters sometimes | 21:18 |
| qwazix | Morpog_Mobile, we can warn against too many filters, nobody will want their app to take ages to install | 21:18 |
| faenil | Jan 01 00:00:06 localhost connmand[241]: Failed to flush table 'mangle': Invalid argument | 21:19 |
| special | also probably kernel config related | 21:19 |
| special | mangle is iptables | 21:19 |
| special | not sure that one would have any effect, though | 21:19 |
| Morpog_Mobile | And you need to make sure an even pixel size doesn't get odd at conversion | 21:19 |
| qwazix | or we can even not support them and get over with it. If somebody wants heavily filtered images he can supply big bitmaps to be scaled down | 21:19 |
| qwazix | (or even multiple versions but I find that waste of bandwidth) | 21:20 |
| qwazix | anyway, as I said I haven't given it much thought, there might be a better solution | 21:20 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Idea is nice | 21:21 |
| qwazix | Morpog_Mobile, why is that even/odd thing? artifacts? | 21:21 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Alignement | 21:22 |
| special | idly, I think device independence is an important property for nemo, since it's an experimental and easily portable platform. | 21:22 |
| qwazix | I doubt that in >200ppi screens this would be noticeable, but it's easy to put a check for that anyway | 21:22 |
| qwazix | special, exactly | 21:22 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Well, on a n9 you would notice for sure | 21:23 |
| qwazix | I know it's tedious work but if we don't do it right from the start it's very hard to bolt it on later | 21:23 |
| qwazix | (thus @2x kludges) | 21:23 |
| joecool | are there any devices i can use nemo on and have it mostly work? I have an N9 but the status matrix doesn't really say if a bunch of things work with it | 21:28 |
| faenil | joecool, Nemo wayland is like that everywhere | 21:29 |
| faenil | you might want to install Nemo x11 | 21:29 |
| joecool | anyone have any sort of modern guide on how i could install it? the ones i found were about a year old | 21:30 |
| joecool | have things changed at all? | 21:30 |
| joecool | (assuming i do install x11, not wayland) | 21:30 |
| faenil | joecool, the guide is updated | 21:32 |
| faenil | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing | 21:32 |
| faenil | let's try to understand why lipstrick times out every 2 mins and is restarted by systemd :) | 21:34 |
| joecool | ok will review it | 21:34 |
| faenil | mmm maliit | 21:41 |
| qwazix | joecool, you might want to check out ubiboot, friendlier way to dualboot with added bonuses | 21:52 |
| faenil | friendler once it's set up :P | 21:53 |
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| faenil | special, does maliit have any log or something? systemd just says its service timed out | 22:28 |
| special | killall maliit-server; MALIIT_DEBUG=enabled maliit-server | 22:29 |
| special | as nemo and with dbus session | 22:29 |
| faenil | ok thx | 22:29 |
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| faenil | mmm not bad | 22:32 |
| faenil | FATAL: List of attribute names is either too long or not null-terminated. | 22:32 |
| faenil | Maximum number of attributes on this hardware is 0. | 22:32 |
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| special | no idea what that means | 22:33 |
| faenil | attributes in shader | 22:33 |
| faenil | there's shader source after that | 22:33 |
| special | mmm | 22:33 |
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| special | check that environment is ok; to be safe, maybe set MALIIT_DEBUG for the systemd service and let it run that way | 22:33 |
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| faenil | yeah | 22:34 |
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| faenil | special, nothing in journalctl | 22:43 |
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| NeeDforKill | hello guys | 22:59 |
| NeeDforKill | on n9 wayland image working wi-fi? | 22:59 |
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| faenil | NeeDforKill, yes, but currently there's a bug with the settings apps | 23:01 |
| faenil | so you have to connect via cmdline | 23:01 |
| faenil | I'll fix it tomorrow I think | 23:01 |
| NeeDforKill | possible to use zypper dup? | 23:01 |
| NeeDforKill | in wayland | 23:01 |
| NeeDforKill | image | 23:01 |
| NeeDforKill | or i don't need use it? | 23:02 |
| faenil | what do you mean? | 23:02 |
| NeeDforKill | i mean, how i need update this wayland image | 23:02 |
| NeeDforKill | only redownload new | 23:02 |
| NeeDforKill | or i can use zypper? | 23:02 |
| faenil | no, zypper dup ofc ;) | 23:03 |
| NeeDforKill | zypper dup will working? | 23:03 |
| faenil | same as Nemo x11 | 23:03 |
| NeeDforKill | guide from wiki will be working? | 23:03 |
| faenil | but I can't guarantee that you'll never have to reflash | 23:03 |
| faenil | yes guide from wiki is working | 23:03 |
| NeeDforKill | so if u fix settings | 23:03 |
| NeeDforKill | and i make update | 23:03 |
| faenil | yes | 23:03 |
| NeeDforKill | from zypper dup | 23:03 |
| NeeDforKill | and it will fix setting? | 23:04 |
| NeeDforKill | s | 23:04 |
| NeeDforKill | * | 23:04 |
| faenil | yes | 23:04 |
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| NeeDforKill | nicee, | 23:04 |
| NeeDforKill | can u give me command in cmdline | 23:04 |
| NeeDforKill | for this | 23:04 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill, oh another problem, virtual keyboard doesn't work currently :D | 23:04 |
| NeeDforKill | for wi-fi* | 23:04 |
| faenil | about the wifi, see this https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Minimal/Networking | 23:04 |
| NeeDforKill | so only ssh? | 23:04 |
| faenil | fingerterm has its own keyboard | 23:05 |
| faenil | you can use terminal with its keyboard | 23:05 |
| faenil | but maliit doesn't work (fingerterm doesn't use maliit) | 23:05 |
| NeeDforKill | anyway i monitor ur twitter everyday )) | 23:06 |
| faenil | oh cool :) | 23:06 |
| faenil | what's your twitter handle? :) | 23:07 |
| NeeDforKill | i not register in twitter | 23:07 |
| faenil | ah ok ;) | 23:07 |
| NeeDforKill | but here I think can make it? | 23:08 |
| faenil | special, started from fingerterm, same shader error | 23:08 |
| faenil | have to see why it does WARNING: QEGLPlatformContext::makeCurrent: eglError: 3009, this: 0x4137c0 | 23:08 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill, can make what? | 23:08 |
| NeeDforKill | twitter acc | 23:08 |
| NeeDforKill | * | 23:08 |
| faenil | why "here" ? | 23:09 |
| faenil | pvuorela, ping | 23:10 |
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| NeeDforKill | so i register in twitter | 23:14 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill, sorry I'm not getting your questions :) | 23:15 |
| NeeDforKill | so now easy to read ur twitts :D | 23:17 |
| faenil | ok :D | 23:17 |
| NeeDforKill | so now need install ubuntu on vmware ,then install ubi boot | 23:18 |
| NeeDforKill | so glacer ui,it's photoshop concept? | 23:19 |
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| faenil | NeeDforKill, yes, we're still in photoshop phase | 23:21 |
| NeeDforKill | but looks awesome )) | 23:22 |
| faenil | it does yeah :) it would be great to see that come true | 23:22 |
| fk_lx | night hackers :-) | 23:33 |
| faenil | fk_lx, night o/ | 23:33 |
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| fk_lx | bye ;-) | 23:34 |
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| faenil | good night people | 23:40 |
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