| Artox | are there any hints on how to deal with this on cobs? http://pastebin.com/4YE5XqtP | 00:01 |
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| situ | Morning all | 07:13 |
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| rcg | mornin | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | morn rcg | 09:06 |
| niqt | morning rcg | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | can somebody help list mer-friendly hackable devices with sane hardware adaptations that are redistributable? | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | * raspberry pi | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | or at least redistributable through a EULA by anybody | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | * snowball / snowball tablet kit | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | * pandaboard? | 09:08 |
| niqt | i have raspberry | 09:08 |
| jonwil | N900 would probably count if it was still in production I would guess :) | 09:09 |
| SpeedEvil | n900 | 09:09 |
| SpeedEvil | oh, beaten | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | n900/n950/n9 has a nasty hw adaptation license, so it doesn't qualify for full redistribution :/ | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | i guess gta04 also qualifies? | 09:10 |
| SpeedEvil | n900s - broken ones - are still going for fairly similar pricing | 09:10 |
| SpeedEvil | insane | 09:10 |
| SpeedEvil | not similar. | 09:10 |
| SpeedEvil | £30 for one with a telephony error | 09:10 |
| SpeedEvil | I was pondering getting to reflow | 09:10 |
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| Stskeeps | what else.. cotton candy? | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | trim slice.. | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | gumstix.. | 09:13 |
| SpeedEvil | pogoplug? | 09:13 |
| Master-Passeli | Stskeeps: i have dreamplug which is pretty nice | 09:13 |
| SpeedEvil | the various openwrt targets? | 09:14 |
| SpeedEvil | or is that getting too small. | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | are those armv7, armv6 or armv5? (dreamplug/pogoplug) | 09:14 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm unsure | 09:14 |
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| SpeedEvil | there was a source selling pogo at 10€, but I got to it too late | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | the allwinner boards but i'm unsure of some of the licensng | 09:15 |
| SpeedEvil | on the other hand, I have too many computers | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | beaglebone.. | 09:15 |
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| SpeedEvil | lots of 'stick PCs' turning up. | 09:16 |
| Master-Passeli | dreamplug is armv5 | 09:16 |
| Master-Passeli | http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-54-dreamplug-devkit.aspx | 09:17 |
| SpeedEvil | http://dx.com/l/consumer-electronics/2012-12/mini-pc.aspx?utm_source=dx&utm_medium=cdn&utm_campaign=h004minipc | 09:17 |
| SpeedEvil | I suspect the licence on these is nonexistant though | 09:17 |
| jonwil | speaking of n | 09:18 |
| SpeedEvil | actually, those are freeacale | 09:18 |
| SpeedEvil | free scale | 09:18 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm unsure how open they are | 09:18 |
| jonwil | what arch they using? 68k? arm? MIPS? something else? | 09:19 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, what about archos g9 and nexus 7? | 09:19 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, also what about this pengpod thing? | 09:19 |
| SpeedEvil | cortex a9 | 09:19 |
| SpeedEvil | ouya(so) | 09:19 |
| SpeedEvil | so | 09:19 |
| SpeedEvil | sp | 09:19 |
| SpeedEvil | sigh | 09:19 |
| jonwil | Nexus devices probably aren't open enough, you need binary blobs from https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers to get them running and I have no idea if FOSS replacements exist | 09:20 |
| DrWhax | ka6sox: o/ | 09:21 |
| DrWhax | err | 09:21 |
| ka6sox | the N7 is open enough | 09:21 |
| ka6sox | Blobs are a necessary part of life (for now) | 09:21 |
| SpeedEvil | :'( | 09:21 |
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| Stskeeps | rcg: archos g9, yes | 09:22 |
| jonwil | The issue isn't blobs, its whether the blobs are redistributable or not | 09:22 |
| jonwil | the ones for the Nexus are not as far as I can tell | 09:22 |
| jonwil | Same deal as with the N900 where the license for the hardware-adaptation bits (e.g. PowerVR blobs, WiFi/Bluetooth firmware etc) isn't free enough | 09:23 |
| rcg | btw, i just found a workaround for resume issue on the archos g9 pvr image :) | 09:23 |
| rcg | just, being this night at about 02:30 ;) | 09:24 |
| ka6sox | not redistributable/ | 09:24 |
| ka6sox | hmm...let me look into that. | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | ugh @ the licenses that some of these come with | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | (nexus/drivers) | 09:38 |
| SpeedEvil | :-( | 09:38 |
| SpeedEvil | is it variable per device? | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | this particular one seems a bit generic | 09:39 |
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| kulve | I was positively surprised that b.m.o wasn't down, but after login I get "403 Forbidden" | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | uhhh. | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ^ | 10:00 |
| kulve | I guess that's because it redirected me to http://b.m.o instead of https | 10:01 |
| kulve | the https seems to work | 10:01 |
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| phaeron | will have a look | 10:06 |
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| phaeron | must be the reverse proxy too | 10:08 |
| kulve | related to https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers, the nexus7 HA hasn't taken anything from there as everything is got from the ubuntu. The URL above includes also binary user-space libraries, but they are not needed (OpenGL ES stuff is directly from nvidia.com). | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that's what i'm thinking too | 10:12 |
| kulve | I'm not completely sure from where ubuntu has taken the BCM firmware blobs in /lib/firmware but I think they are at least available from the android and their license allows redistribution | 10:12 |
| phaeron | hmm no seems an obs misconfig | 10:14 |
| kulve | for the wifi part. The URL above contains the n7 package and in there is the bcm4330.hcd for BT/GPS. That blob seems to be included also in the ubuntu firmware package but I'm unsure about its license | 10:14 |
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| kulve | rcg: sample-media-tegra3 is broken and rfkill empty? | 10:31 |
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| CosmoHill | morning | 10:33 |
| rcg | kulve, i have the packages on meego cobs atm | 10:43 |
| rcg | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=home%3Awonko%3Apa%3Anexus7%3Atesting | 10:44 |
| kulve | ok | 10:44 |
| rcg | kulve, ^ | 10:44 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello :) | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | morn Sfiet_Konstantin | 10:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I was wondering why X is displaying at 1024x768 on the iconia tab instead of 1280x960 | 10:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | where I have to look | 10:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | provide custom X config ? | 10:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or pass something in the bootloader ? | 10:59 |
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| Stskeeps | probably a setting in kernel command line, vga= ? | 11:01 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | I was thinking about that | 11:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: is there any Xorg.conf like in the other linuces ? | 11:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (the good old one :) ) | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d i think? | 11:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | empty :( | 11:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | no default Xorg.conf with autogenerated settings ? | 11:16 |
| Stskeeps | you should probably add it in vga= really | 11:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah | 11:16 |
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| phaeron | § | 11:18 |
| phaeron | err | 11:18 |
| phaeron | :D | 11:18 |
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| lbt | morning | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: could you make a 50gb web space with rsync installed that i can point releases.nemomobile.org and get sage access to? | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | we have to move off maemo.org, we can't make releases atm | 11:19 |
| lbt | sure | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | so it's important :P | 11:20 |
| phaeron | lbt: morning | 11:21 |
| lbt | o/ | 11:21 |
| phaeron | lbt: and can I get access to the ngnix on the phost whenever you have time | 11:21 |
| lbt | sure - just fixing the missing http->https redirects | 11:22 |
| lbt | phost8 | 11:22 |
| phaeron | lbt: it shouldn't redirect back to http in the first place imho. but ook | 11:23 |
| lbt | ? | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: we tried to beat it into submission early on, in build.merproject.org, i think | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | err, build.ci | 11:24 |
| lbt | phaeron: it could be an nginx vs apache thing | 11:24 |
| phaeron | lbt: when someone logs in or logs out , it redirects to back to http | 11:24 |
| phaeron | lbt: yes it is some setting in nginx afair | 11:24 |
| lbt | proxy_redirect default; | 11:25 |
| phaeron | lbt: proxy_redirect off; | 11:26 |
| lbt | I thought proxy_redirect handled ProxyPassReverse from apache? | 11:27 |
| lbt | otherwise the internal (proxy target) http address is returned | 11:28 |
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| phaeron | lbt: obs already sets the correct external url, right ? | 11:29 |
| lbt | eg proxy_pass http://cfe.internal | 11:29 |
| lbt | I didn't think it did - maybe | 11:29 |
| lbt | but having fwd translation in one place and reverse in another ... hmmm | 11:30 |
| lbt | and why did we need proxypassreverse then ? | 11:30 |
| lbt | and I'm 99% sure obs has a hardcoded (broken) url on logout | 11:30 |
| phaeron | haven't used apache as proxy for some time so I don't remember | 11:30 |
| phaeron | lbt: ok | 11:31 |
| lbt | and we're missing the Redirect permanent / https://api.merproject.org/ | 11:31 |
| lbt | for the port 80 | 11:31 |
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| lbt | which I can't figure out in nginx | 11:31 |
| lbt | (which is why I always use apache, 'cos I know how to read the docs :) ) | 11:31 |
| phaeron | lbt: http://wiki.nginx.org/HttpRewriteModule | 11:32 |
| lbt | fuu... multiple pages down, in the middle of some text "If the replacement string begins with http:// then the client will be redirected, and any further rewrite directives are terminated" | 11:33 |
| lbt | phaeron: ty :) | 11:34 |
| lbt | I kept seeing "use rewrite" and thinking "no, I want a redirect, not a rewrite" | 11:35 |
| phaeron | same thing :) | 11:35 |
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| phaeron | lbt: did you get my explanantion of the death by lastevents | 11:39 |
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| lbt | phaeron: no, I went out | 11:51 |
| lbt | however.... http://wiki.nginx.org/Pitfalls#Taxing_Rewrites | 11:51 |
| lbt | return 301 http://domain.com$request_uri; | 11:51 |
| lbt | not rewrite | 11:51 |
| phaeron | lbt: stop thinking too much :) | 11:52 |
| Stskeeps | that'd be the day | 11:52 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:52 |
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| Sage | lbt: Stskeeps: ping when something is ready | 11:55 |
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| lbt | phaeron: OK, redirect in place (using rewrite) | 12:00 |
| lbt | hey Sleepy_Coder | 12:00 |
| lbt | phaeron: yes, saw CLOSE_WAIT stuff now | 12:00 |
| lbt | phaeron: fwiw it shows the same problem with both nginx and apache reverse proxies - and with xforward code turned off (which isn't used in that situation I think) | 12:01 |
| lbt | Sage: do you need a shell account ? | 12:02 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: iamer's been working on mds2 over xmas - on mer ci obs, a linkedbuild="all" now takes 2 minutes to start building, before it was ~20 min | 12:02 |
| * Stskeeps hugs iamer | 12:03 | |
| lbt | nice work | 12:04 |
| phaeron | \o/ | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | and 20 mins is a optimistic estimate, it might have been 40isjh | 12:04 |
| phaeron | lbt: yes the situation is the same and not related to xforward. for nginx there's a directive to kill connection to backend when remote client disconnects ( which is what happens when nginx replys with a timeout) | 12:06 |
| lbt | ok, let me make space for sage | 12:07 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: and give me a CNAME or IP to point releases.nemomobile.org too | 12:07 |
| lbt | Sage: if I put this on img.merproject.org is that OK? | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | (what does that imply?) | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | just location vm-wise? | 12:08 |
| lbt | mainly less copying when we make images | 12:08 |
| lbt | and it's on a dedicated phost | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:09 |
| lbt | since img is slightly unstable due to nested kvm | 12:09 |
| lbt | phost11 | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: was cobs's MDS on a seperate vm? | 12:14 |
| lbt | yes | 12:14 |
| lbt | mer cobs | 12:14 |
| lbt | ? | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 12:14 |
| lbt | cmds | 12:14 |
| lbt | co-located on the same phost | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | i could imagine it might make sense to share a mds2 between ci obs and mer obs, so | 12:14 |
| lbt | yes, I think so | 12:15 |
| lbt | is releases.nemomobile.org just for images? | 12:17 |
| lbt | I'd expect repos there too from the name | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | a bit of both, i guess, we can probably do repos too | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | repos as in released repos | 12:18 |
| lbt | yes | 12:19 |
| lbt | we have crepo for releases of Mer:Tools etc | 12:20 |
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| phaeron | yes please , releases :) | 12:23 |
| CosmoHill | for anyone thinking of moving to jekyll and has files containing multiple posts on their current / old system | 12:24 |
| CosmoHill | csplit -k Jan2006.html /h2/ {10} | 12:24 |
| lbt | OK, what I'll do is make some space on repo.merproject.org vm and eventually move that to phost11 which will become our main download server (and host img too) - that way long downloands shouldn't impact normal cfe traffic | 12:26 |
| lbt | repo for ci is already there | 12:26 |
| Artox | Hi, I have a build error here and idk what to do about it/how to get rid of it) https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=ti-omap3-sgx&project=home%3Amayerjosua&repository=latest_armv7l | 12:27 |
| Artox | it seesm to be some packaging check | 12:27 |
| Artox | and I got one here too https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=kernel-adaptation-gta04&project=home%3Amayerjosua&repository=latest_armv7l | 12:28 |
| Bostik | Artox: http://mumble.knobgoblin.org.uk/faqs.cgi might help, look at the %debug_package %nil piece | 12:29 |
| Artox | thx Bostik | 12:30 |
| Bostik | yw | 12:30 |
| Artox | now only building kernel is left :|it works fine with a corss compiler here | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so what ip do i send it to? | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | / cname | 12:33 |
| lbt | http://repo.merproject.org/ | 12:39 |
| lbt | http://repo.merproject.org/nemomobile/ exists | 12:40 |
| lbt | I moved all the published mer cobs to http://repo.merproject.org/obs/ | 12:41 |
| lbt | I think I need to change cfe too | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | ok, i'll cname it to repo.merproject.org | 12:42 |
| lbt | we need to review our DNS setup too | 12:43 |
| lbt | I think gratisdns needs to listen to a 2ndry on merproject for zone updates | 12:44 |
| lbt | can you check if it's listening to zones by name (formeego.org) or IP (the now dead maemo dns server) | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | Master DNS: 80.248.164.191 | 12:44 |
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| Stskeeps | releases.nemomobile.org -> repo.merproject.org CNAME added | 12:45 |
| lbt | OK, I'll get you to change that when airy is running as a public DNS | 12:45 |
| lbt | OK | 12:45 |
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| CosmoHill | Bostik: do you use jekyll? | 12:57 |
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| Bostik | CosmoHill: no, ikiwiki | 13:13 |
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| CosmoHill | I'm using jekyll, I'm going through my blog posts and adding new thigns to the site as I find new issues to deal with | 13:16 |
| CosmoHill | one of the issues is posts that link to other posts | 13:16 |
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| kulve | damn that b.m.o. Now I can't upload a new version: | 13:37 |
| kulve | Transmitting file data .SSL Error: (104, 'Connection reset by peer') | 13:37 |
| kulve | it seems to start transmitting but after a 30sec or so I get the error | 13:38 |
| kulve | same thing every time | 13:38 |
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| yunta | looks like most of mer's infra is moving target at the moment.... | 13:40 |
| lbt | yunta: ? | 13:41 |
| lbt | bmo is a bit flakey | 13:41 |
| yunta | like your mv * /obs | 13:42 |
| yunta | :) | 13:42 |
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| yunta | lbt: do you guys have some design (description?graph?wiki?) that I could use to learn how mer infra / build systems / target dirs/servers looks and will interact? | 13:45 |
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| phaeron | lbt: check the nginx log, probably maximum upload size | 13:50 |
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| lbt | yunta: not public | 13:59 |
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| lbt | phaeron: ok | 14:05 |
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| kulve | lbt: did you check that upload size? | 14:14 |
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| lbt | kulve: 723 client intended to send too large body: 19714243 bytes, | 14:32 |
| kulve | that's me! | 14:34 |
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| lbt | kulve: try now | 14:42 |
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| kulve | lbt: sending | 14:45 |
| kulve | lbt: still sending. Seems to work | 14:48 |
| lbt | good | 14:48 |
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| lbt | kulve: yell when done, I want to restart to turn on nemomobile.org | 14:50 |
| kulve | Committed revision 2. | 14:52 |
| kulve | lbt: worked | 14:52 |
| lbt | ty | 14:52 |
| lbt | http://releases.nemomobile.org/ is up too <- Stskeeps | 14:52 |
| lbt | also Stskeeps, shouldn't there have been a release last week ? | 14:53 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps: cm-t3730, A10 gfx status is unclear, joggler, exopc, wetab, samsung origen? | 15:00 |
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| CosmoHill | lbt: sed -i -e '1i ---\nlayout: post\ndate: 2006-02-00\n---\n' xx07 | 15:07 |
| CosmoHill | this will add the layout and date front matter to a load of files | 15:07 |
| CosmoHill | useful for jekyll posts | 15:07 |
| CosmoHill | also thanks for telling me about jekyll :) | 15:07 |
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| jonwil | stskeeps: Does the ARM version of the OLPC count? (not sure if its available or how to get one though) | 15:24 |
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| shmerl | Hi. Did the repo for PA/Nexus 7 change from http://repo.merproject.org/nemo:/devel:/hw:/nv:/tegra3:/common/latest_armv7hl to http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/hw:/nv:/tegra3:/common/latest_armv7hl ? | 20:07 |
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| yunta | lbt: ^ | 20:09 |
| lbt | shmerl: yes | 20:09 |
| shmerl | lbt: I see. Why does it have nemo in the name btw? | 20:09 |
| lbt | shmerl: the that's the project structure in obs | 20:10 |
| shmerl | shouldn't it be obs/devel:/hw:...? | 20:10 |
| lbt | well, yes, possibly | 20:10 |
| shmerl | And nemo:/... should point to nemo specific stuff | 20:10 |
| lbt | there was some debate on this recently | 20:11 |
| lbt | it's still up in the air iirc | 20:11 |
| shmerl | I saw the e-mail about some changes, but it didn't mention the change in Tegra repos names. | 20:11 |
| lbt | the obs/ prefix is new | 20:12 |
| shmerl | Right, it affected all of them. | 20:12 |
| lbt | yup - that's all that changed roday | 20:12 |
| lbt | sorry, just eating | 20:13 |
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| yunta | shmerl: are you working on nexus7 ? | 20:14 |
| shmerl | yunta: Trying to :) | 20:15 |
| shmerl | Just testing some stuff there. | 20:15 |
| yunta | which hw version? | 20:15 |
| shmerl | 32 GB / WiFi | 20:16 |
| yunta | moslo? | 20:16 |
| shmerl | I used molso first, but then switched to direct method, since moslo reboots twice with that version | 20:17 |
| shmerl | So now it boots directly into PA | 20:17 |
| yunta | hm, so moslo did work for you? | 20:17 |
| shmerl | It works erratically. | 20:17 |
| yunta | (same hw here, no luck with moslo, kexec goes to robot with red exclamation mark....) | 20:17 |
| shmerl | Yep, I had that. | 20:17 |
| shmerl | But if you let it wait - it reboots again, and then works. | 20:17 |
| yunta | yes, but sooo much later | 20:18 |
| yunta | does it do recovery and then only boots to real os? | 20:18 |
| shmerl | Yep. But there is another method which doesn't requite to keep moslo. | 20:18 |
| yunta | sure, I just like moslo :) | 20:18 |
| shmerl | I'm not really sure what it does in that case. | 20:18 |
| yunta | would prefere it to work | 20:18 |
| shmerl | Sure, it's better to fix it. | 20:19 |
| yunta | s/prefere/prefer/ | 20:19 |
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| shmerl | You need it for the extracting of the rootfs step anyway. | 20:19 |
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| shmerl | But not much for anything else really. | 20:19 |
| yunta | sure | 20:19 |
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| shmerl | For some reason PA itself loads very slowly after the boot and X is up. | 20:20 |
| yunta | it's slow even after it boots | 20:21 |
| shmerl | After that it's a bit sluggish, not sure why. | 20:22 |
| shmerl | Well, not all. Some parts of the UI are snappy. | 20:22 |
| yunta | maybe, I wasn't patient enough to experiment | 20:23 |
| yunta | will have to try later again | 20:23 |
| shmerl | Also, it's slower on the first usage. Not sure what it does (builds some cache or etc.). | 20:24 |
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| Sage | lbt: well it could make transfers a bit easier at times, but not required no | 21:54 |
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| Stskeeps | anybody here who has played with xcomposite_egl of qt compositor? | 22:49 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: so ... release? | 22:58 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: we haven't been able to manually QA yet, so, when we have that.. | 22:58 |
| Stskeeps | did sage get the space? | 22:58 |
| lbt | there is space | 22:59 |
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| Stskeeps | long story short sage's been having SSD issues so he haven't been able to do images at all, so no nemo test images either | 22:59 |
| Stskeeps | => i don't want to sign off on a release yet | 22:59 |
| lbt | ah, he's talking about shell account | 22:59 |
| lbt | so http://releases.nemomobile.org/ is there | 23:01 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, good | 23:01 |
| lbt | I dropped $PROJECT down a dir level to obs/$PROJECT | 23:01 |
| Stskeeps | yes, did you adjust it in obs too? some people complained links stopped working :P | 23:01 |
| lbt | as that's also http://repo.merproject.org/ of course | 23:02 |
| lbt | I did | 23:02 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 23:02 |
| * Stskeeps has to adjust some .ks'es too but accepts it due to it being unofficial just yet.. | 23:02 | |
| lbt | yep, I thought that too, it's still pre-release | 23:02 |
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| Stskeeps | realistically i think we're looking at a 2/1/2013 release at this point | 23:03 |
| Stskeeps | or 3rd | 23:03 |
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| lbt | ok | 23:04 |
| Stskeeps | i486 from-scratch mer build linkedbuild=all at 4 hours, btw | 23:06 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:06 |
| * Stskeeps passes iamer cookies | 23:06 | |
| lbt | I don't understand that | 23:06 |
| Stskeeps | i think mds was slowing down things a bit too | 23:06 |
| lbt | cfe is showing correct repo links now anyway | 23:07 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 23:07 |
| lbt | and it's working too - the remote link seems to have been the issue | 23:07 |
| Stskeeps | we need to find and fix that :P | 23:07 |
| lbt | yes, islam shut it down and we're now 'stable' | 23:08 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 23:08 |
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