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| Theorbo | Is the Mer project in any great of need of a developer with a specializing in security and networking? | 01:51 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 06:56 |
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| situ | Morning everyone | 07:18 |
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| CosmoHill | morning | 09:01 |
| kulve | Theorbo: http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00938.html | 09:12 |
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| lbt | I think I'll replace apache with nginx today | 09:59 |
| CosmoHill | lbt: let me know how that goes | 10:00 |
| CosmoHill | what do you think of httpdlight? | 10:00 |
| CosmoHill | (or lighthttpd, I can't remember) | 10:01 |
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| lbt | we used to use it - upstream dropped it so we did too. No strong opinions on this stuff | 10:05 |
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| Bostik | lighty is nice for something small and contained, that much I know from personal experience (replaced personal apache with it) | 10:11 |
| Bostik | but wouldn't particularly want to use it for big and/or complex setups | 10:12 |
| CosmoHill | i have apache, php and mysql on my server | 10:12 |
| CosmoHill | kinda building new server and haven't gotten to the software part yet | 10:13 |
| Bostik | I simply kicked apache off, along with all the mod_* stuff and went with lighty+ikiwiki | 10:17 |
| Bostik | static generator >> dynamic, at least for personal use :) | 10:17 |
| CosmoHill | my new site is in jekyll | 10:19 |
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| CosmoHill | I made a nice script to download a ton of comic pages in different directories. Worked fine up until the page id numbers started having gaps in them | 10:21 |
| Bostik | ikiwiki, jekyll, ... same recipe, different ingredients | 10:22 |
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| CosmoHill | i still have other sites that are php / mysql | 10:27 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 10:49 |
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| Master-Passeli | hi everyone. | 11:10 |
| Master-Passeli | i try to testrun Nemo with qemu-kvm and got it booting nice but when X is loaded all i see is just black screen with X's normal X cursor without anything else | 11:11 |
| Master-Passeli | i suppose this is a graphic acceleration problem | 11:12 |
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| Master-Passeli | package list of newest nemo image shows that there should be llvmpipe libraries which should handle this case but should i have to set it on somehow? | 11:14 |
| Stskeeps | what image are you using? | 11:14 |
| Stskeeps | exact name please | 11:14 |
| Master-Passeli | nemo-handset-i586-vm-0.20121101.1.NEMO.2012-11-08.1.img | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | ctrl-alt-f2 in it, root/nemo | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | and journalctl | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | see what error it is | 11:15 |
| Master-Passeli | let me check | 11:15 |
| Master-Passeli | i can not send ctrl-alt-f2 since my host's X takes it and send me to my hosts console | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | well, something has to work for the kvm :P | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | i use virtualbox personally | 11:19 |
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| Master-Passeli | Stskeeps: now i got this journalctl open | 11:28 |
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| Master-Passeli | event there is a lot of errors, most of them about D-bus service which is not running, i can not find any direct couse of this problem | 11:35 |
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| Artox | I got a serious problem that I dont know how to debug/solve. I generated me a new image with openssh-server included but I cnat ssh in. Error msg on client side is: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host (long version http://pastebin.com/vgTWyGn0) | 17:32 |
| Stskeeps | rm the ssh keys on the device so it regenerates them, maybe | 17:33 |
| Artox | I did that | 17:33 |
| Artox | didnt help | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:33 |
| Artox | took me ages to get usbnet set up properly(made a python script that sets all interfaces to manual mode) | 17:34 |
| Stskeeps | was this the gta04? | 17:34 |
| Artox | yes | 17:34 |
| Artox | but | 17:34 |
| Artox | concerning ssh keys | 17:34 |
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| Artox | it didnt regenrate the keys | 17:34 |
| Stskeeps | hmmm. | 17:35 |
| Artox | I just found | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | copy some in, for fun? | 17:35 |
| TomaszD | interesting demo for engadget Stskeeps | 17:35 |
| TomaszD | I'm starting to dig it | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | what'd i do? | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:35 |
| TomaszD | not you | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | ooh. | 17:36 |
| TomaszD | I think it was Vesa-Matti Hartikainen | 17:36 |
| TomaszD | but also David Greaves was mentioned, isn't that lbt? | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | it is | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | it's from qt developer days | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | well, let's go see if anybody should be fired | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:37 |
| TomaszD | Miriam launched the camera app and got in trouble for it lol | 17:38 |
| lbt | he did indeed | 17:38 |
| TomaszD | isn't Miriam a she? | 17:38 |
| TomaszD | *Myriam | 17:38 |
| lbt | err yeah - in a confusing way :) | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | on the internet, you could be a dog | 17:39 |
| TomaszD | I'm actually one | 17:39 |
| TomaszD | HELLO | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/29/hands-on-with-jollas-sailfish-os-video/ | 17:39 |
| TomaszD | yup that's the one | 17:39 |
| TomaszD | all aboard the hype train | 17:40 |
| TomaszD | to be fair the demo shows nothing new | 17:41 |
| Stskeeps | myriam didn't get to see it in slush, so | 17:42 |
| TomaszD | in slush? | 17:42 |
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| Stskeeps | the launch event | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | evening jstaniek | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | TomaszD: most are completely floored that this is 1) on low end hw and 2) uses qt4 | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:43 |
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| TomaszD | right. Now where's angry birds on this thing | 17:45 |
| TomaszD | /user | 17:46 |
| jstaniek | hi Stskeeps | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RjvEi4Vn-A | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:46 |
| Fluttershy0 | success! so I finally have a set of files for the rootfs that end up in automatic ssh access possible :) | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | Fluttershy0: congrats | 17:47 |
| TomaszD | hmm | 17:47 |
| Fluttershy0 | but the PVR doesw not work yet | 17:47 |
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| Artox | anyway, working X.org | 17:47 |
| TomaszD | I'm sure side-loading apks is going to be the bomb | 17:47 |
| TomaszD | ;) | 17:47 |
| Artox | so the binaries are incompatible :| sad. afk | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | what error? | 17:59 |
| * lbt finds a way to expose what was blocking the mer cobs processes | 18:06 | |
| Stskeeps | oh? | 18:06 |
| Stskeeps | does it involve kill -11? | 18:06 |
| lbt | removing the smtp alert stuff | 18:07 |
| lbt | means the real block seems to be visible | 18:07 |
| lbt | remote obs link from "somewhere in finland" | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | okay, but why does that stall the OBS? | 18:08 |
| Stskeeps | keepalivetimeout, or the likes? | 18:08 |
| lbt | probably - but at least I know what's blocking now | 18:08 |
| Stskeeps | shouldn't be possible for one obs on remote /public api to kill the thing :) | 18:09 |
| * Stskeeps ponders idly | 18:09 | |
| Stskeeps | we've had this conversation before | 18:09 |
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| lbt | yup | 18:09 |
| lbt | also explains why my load testing didn't cause issues | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22134#c19 | 18:10 |
| Merbot | bugs.meego.com bug 22134 in Build Service "Main meego obs down" [Major,Assigned] | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | though that's on backend | 18:11 |
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| lbt | there's only one there now | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | had similar-ish symptoms i believe | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | my specific comments, too | 18:13 |
| rcg | kulve, just in case, i have packages of rfkill and the brcm-patchram-thing ready on meego cobs | 18:13 |
| rcg | iirc those are needed for getting bluetooth to work | 18:13 |
| kulve | yeah, I remember reading something about those but had forgot already | 18:14 |
| kulve | I wonder if those are needed for GPS as well.. Any way, I'm about to send a mail to you | 18:15 |
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| Stskeeps | silly question, what kind of license terms does tegra4linux come with? | 18:16 |
| rcg | is bmo working again? | 18:16 |
| rcg | if yes i can push these to our hw:adaptation | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | lbt's debugging still i think | 18:16 |
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| kulve | rcg: does your device have /dev/ttyHS1? I assume so.. | 18:17 |
| rcg | i see, no need to hurry.. for now meego cobs should do | 18:17 |
| rcg | kulve, it has | 18:17 |
| rcg | those are from the tegra uart | 18:17 |
| rcg | it's some mmio thing | 18:17 |
| kulve | I think the GPS is behind it | 18:18 |
| rcg | iirc one of it is the bluetooth device | 18:18 |
| rcg | kulve, oh i see | 18:18 |
| rcg | that would help a lot :) | 18:18 |
| lbt | I am still debugging, yes | 18:18 |
| RaYmAn | Stskeeps: sufficiently open to get into ubuntu at least =P | 18:18 |
| lbt | nb, we have nginx reverse proxy https now | 18:18 |
| rcg | i tried to speak with those (ttyHS[1-4]) via stty and cat echo | 18:18 |
| rcg | but didn't get meaningful output | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i'm looking at the license and it seems fairly sane | 18:19 |
| TomaszD | wait a minute, is the jolla device tegra-based? | 18:20 |
| TomaszD | or sailfish, or something | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | this isn't #jollamobile, these guys are running plasma active on nexus 7 | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:20 |
| RaYmAn | wasn't it st-ericsson? | 18:20 |
| fk_lx | lol :-) | 18:21 |
| fk_lx | speculations, speculations, ... | 18:21 |
| kulve | rcg: same here | 18:21 |
| TomaszD | good enough for techcrunch | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | no details on the actual SoC used in device has been actually said, st-e supports sailfish on their SoCs, doesn't mean there's not enough others :) | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | err.. | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | not others, i mean | 18:21 |
| fk_lx | :-) | 18:21 |
| Artox | [18:59] <Stskeeps> what error? | 18:22 |
| Artox | did it concern me? | 18:22 |
| rcg | kulve, do you have any clue what the 3g device could be? | 18:22 |
| kulve | nope | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | Artox: ys | 18:22 |
| rcg | i compared /dev/* of a non-3g and 3g version but found nothing that looked like a 3g device | 18:23 |
| kulve | rcg: mail sent. I guess it could be a good thing to test new kernel + things mentioned in the mail + that brcm-patchram-thing | 18:23 |
| Artox | well, http://pastebin.com/zCpQggFf | 18:23 |
| Artox | I took binaries from a google seacrh and they seem to be used by beagleboard | 18:23 |
| Artox | thats what pvrsrvinit says | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | Artox: yeah, not always a good idea to do that :P | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | you need one matching your kerne | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | l | 18:24 |
| Artox | not really | 18:24 |
| Artox | I do use the kernel by manufacturer, 2.6.32 | 18:24 |
| rcg | kulve, got it, looks good :) | 18:24 |
| Artox | and that exact kernel works iwth the binarises for a softloat system on a softfloat system | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | and i presume you're using armv7l? | 18:24 |
| Artox | no | 18:24 |
| Artox | armv7hl | 18:24 |
| Artox | thats why I need hardfloat ones | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | well you probably should use armv7l then | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:25 |
| Artox | and searched for those | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | and get it working with softfloat first | 18:25 |
| RaYmAn | rcg: it should be relatively easy to find out from the android ramdisk (init.rc etc) | 18:25 |
| Artox | I planned to do that | 18:25 |
| Artox | after failing | 18:25 |
| rcg | kulve, yesterday night i fiddled a bit more with the hw stuff: see my last comment to my blog post | 18:25 |
| Artox | though beagleboard would have been good hope since tehre is one using the same DM3730 | 18:25 |
| rcg | according to some sources the gps should be a bcm4751 | 18:25 |
| kulve | rcg: ubuntu guys also swap the touchscreen coordinates in kernel and I don't understand why. But I think it worked for me correctly with the patch, so leave it be first | 18:25 |
| rcg | RaYmAn, i see.. didn't look at that one yet | 18:26 |
| rcg | kulve, roger that | 18:26 |
| rcg | brb | 18:26 |
| kulve | rcg: yeah, I read the comments but I couldn't find anything related to that in the kernel (at least briefly). And the kernel must already have the GPS driver | 18:26 |
| RaYmAn | rcg: actually, just look at https://android.googlesource.com/device/asus/tilapia/+/jb-mr1-release/init.tilapia.rc :P | 18:27 |
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| RaYmAn | ttyHS2 is bluetooth, ttyHS1 is GPS | 18:28 |
| RaYmAn | I'd guess 3G is a combination of ttyACM devices and an 'ethernet' device | 18:29 |
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| kulve | I think something needs to be done to enable the GPS. Maybe something related to the gpio162 but I didn't get anything out of the HS1 | 18:46 |
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| Venemo_N9 | hey Stskeeps :) | 18:48 |
| fk_lx | hello Venemo_N9 | 18:48 |
| Venemo_N9 | hi! | 18:49 |
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| nixuser | Hello. Can I ask about the C71 and whether the kernel will compile for it? | 18:51 |
| Venemo_N9 | what is the C71? | 18:51 |
| nixuser | amlogic have released the m3 chipset source code, but apparently zenithink modified it afterwards for their device. | 18:51 |
| nixuser | the Zenithink C71 | 18:51 |
| nixuser | ie the vivaldi tablet | 18:52 |
| rcg | RaYmAn, that looks very good :) | 18:52 |
| nixuser | i bought one because i thought it was easy to put a linux distro on it, but now ive read that you can only use precompiled kernel binaries | 18:53 |
| nixuser | anyone have any experience on this? | 18:54 |
| RaYmAn | I thought vivaldi switched to allwinner actually | 18:59 |
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| RaYmAn | though hmm, that doesn't match the specs I guess. | 19:00 |
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| Artox | so armv7l version seems to work fine :) | 19:55 |
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| Artox | but there is an issue with uxlaunch. it runs several times(there are multiple processes of it) maybe because there are 3 framebuffers? | 20:00 |
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| Artox | /dev/fb[0..2] that is | 20:00 |
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| Artox | but systemctl commands just dont work by ssh | 20:03 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, ^ | 20:14 |
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| Stskeeps | Artox: rpm -qa | grep setuid | 20:25 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: is there any good reason why we don't have obs-repos :next but we have :latest? | 20:26 |
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| Artox | <Stskeeps> Artox: rpm -qa | grep setuid | 20:30 |
| Artox | why always setuid? | 20:30 |
| Artox | xorg-x11-server-Xorg-setuid-1.13.0-1.11.Mer.armv7l | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | define 'runs several times' | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | define 'runs several times' | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | it might just be a fork | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | sorry for repeat :) | 20:31 |
| Artox | Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager. | 20:31 |
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| Artox | thast whta systemctl says when I wnat to start/stop services by ssh | 20:31 |
| Artox | concerning uxlaunch, maybe it doesnt matter | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | are you using root or mer/nemo login to do this? | 20:32 |
| Artox | root | 20:32 |
| Artox | idk mer user password yet | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | probably 'mer' or 'rootme' | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:32 |
| Artox | same error with mer user | 20:32 |
| Artox | export $(dbus-launch) does not help | 20:33 |
| Stskeeps | well, you shoudl be talking to the system bus | 20:33 |
| Artox | I was wondering about this uxlaunch because apparently tehre is a poblem with 3D apps inside Xorg. they work now on framebuffer | 20:33 |
| Stskeeps | give it a reboot and show me entire output of 'journalctl'? | 20:33 |
| Artox | I guess I ncat do reboots | 20:34 |
| Artox | lemme try | 20:34 |
| Artox | there was na issue with shutting down(possibly kernel issue) | 20:34 |
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| Artox | Stskeeps: http://pastebin.com/HTMAAFxb | 20:40 |
| Artox | thats after just new boot | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, moment | 20:40 |
| Artox | (not really, I had to install openssh-clients to do scp) | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | something has disappeared from the .ks'es it seems, trying to find it | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/5594517 | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | add that after %post | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | or execute those comamnds on device, reboot | 20:42 |
| Artox | well, that solves qmlviewer not autostarting | 20:44 |
| Artox | but there is a problem | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | which might solve the restarting too | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:45 |
| Artox | qmlviewer starts, than goes into hiding | 20:45 |
| Artox | and tsrats again | 20:45 |
| Artox | will reboot | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | sounds like CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y not enabled? | 20:45 |
| Artox | CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y | 20:46 |
| Artox | CONFIG_SYSVIPC_SYSCTL=y | 20:46 |
| Artox | thats how it is on my kernel | 20:46 |
| Artox | aftr a reboot, qmlviewr is jnot starting againand again | 20:47 |
| Artox | apparently just once | 20:47 |
| Artox | though there is already 2 uxlaunch | 20:47 |
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| Artox | could I be right in guessing EGL_BAD_ALLOC menas I need more vram? | 20:48 |
| Artox | wellI certainly *could* | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | that usually means your opengl is screwed | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | get mer-gfx-tests | 20:48 |
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| Stskeeps | when you have glestest running and eglinfo, you're game | 20:49 |
| Artox | well | 20:49 |
| Artox | I have eglinfo working fine | 20:49 |
| Artox | putting out much | 20:49 |
| Artox | and framebuffer gles test apps run too | 20:49 |
| Artox | and framebuffer openvg animation too | 20:49 |
| Artox | just the x11 gles test app doesnt. I will try more vram | 20:49 |
| Artox | but I dont care too much atm | 20:49 |
| Artox | going to get a phone UI and then look at oFono | 20:50 |
| Artox | after I made packagvfes for all my modifications so far | 20:50 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:51 |
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| Artox | %{sourcedir} | 20:52 |
| Artox | am I using a nonexistant macro there? | 20:52 |
| Artox | rpm specfile that os | 20:52 |
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| Artox | I am pretty sure I cant just package the SGX bianries by TI or are there already sme provided by mer that I can use instead? | 20:55 |
| Stskeeps | you should take whatever you can get copied in and ln -s libEGL.so libEGL.so.1 and ln -s libGLESv2.so libGLESv2.so.2 with | 20:55 |
| Stskeeps | take a look at the n900/n950/n9 common hw adaptation | 20:56 |
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| Artox | those symlinks do exist already, the sgx installer made them | 20:57 |
| Stskeeps | heh, luxry | 20:57 |
| Stskeeps | luxry | 20:57 |
| Stskeeps | ... luxury | 20:57 |
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| Artox | the n900 oeple have hardfloat binaries:| | 21:02 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i meant more the packaging | 21:03 |
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| Artox | ah, but the TI binaries are under TI license | 21:03 |
| Artox | thats why I have no clue if I may provide them in a general palce such as package them for everybody | 21:03 |
| Stskeeps | well | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | take it from me, you only want to take the packaging | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | not the content | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | there's evil things down that road otherwise | 21:04 |
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| Stskeeps | evening venemo | 21:05 |
| Artox | I am still not sure I understand | 21:05 |
| Stskeeps | as in, don't take the n900/n950/n9 actual binaries for SGX, you really don't want to try to make it work | 21:06 |
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| Artox | I wont for now, they are a version I have never seen before, I would have been glad if I had since my hatrdflaot version was far newer | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 21:08 |
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| niqt | Stskeeps: use SORBS the mer-general mailing list for the spam? | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | maybe, but i need to take a talk with smoku i think | 21:14 |
| niqt | my email is rejected... i'm not spammer ;( | 21:16 |
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| * Bricker waves | 21:57 | |
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| Stskeeps | moo Bricker | 21:57 |
| Bricker | Hey Sts! | 21:57 |
| Bricker | how goes? | 21:57 |
| Stskeeps | fine fine, new apartment, happy with it | 21:57 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/29/hands-on-with-jollas-sailfish-os-video/ is what i work with these days | 21:58 |
| Bricker | Sts, do you know if there is a way to reset my password for my nick? I cant seem to identify :( | 21:59 |
| Stskeeps | no clue | 22:00 |
| Bricker | well | 22:05 |
| Bricker | its not kicking me off, so thats good | 22:05 |
| Bricker | :D | 22:05 |
| Bricker | where are the pics of your new apartment? | 22:05 |
| Stskeeps | don't have any, but it's a 4-roomer, next to metro, cinema, pizza place in the bottom of the house.. so quite nice | 22:05 |
| Bricker | sounds nice | 22:06 |
| Bricker | is the pizza place good? my favorite food is pizza :D | 22:06 |
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| Stskeeps | it's excellent | 22:07 |
| Bricker | :D | 22:07 |
| Bricker | You got married, right? | 22:07 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 22:07 |
| Stskeeps | didn't see -that- coming | 22:07 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:07 |
| Bricker | haha | 22:07 |
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| Stskeeps | bbl sleep | 22:16 |
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| rcg | Stskeeps, when you talk about going to sleep i always envision you starting to code on yet another side project ;P | 22:17 |
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| phaeron | lbt: ping | 22:27 |
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| phaeron | lbt: too many connections stay in CLOSE_WAIT state. this might indicate misconfiguration in the reverse proxy. I lowered MaxRequestsPerChild to 20 attempting to recycle workers more often. I don't have access to the rev. proxy, but tomorrow we can debug it | 22:45 |
| phaeron | lbt: I am pretty sure it is a misconfiguration of the reverse proxy | 22:49 |
| Bricker | why does skype on linux suck so bad | 22:55 |
| yunta | ms | 22:57 |
| yunta | phaeron: is this close_wait on the same host as rev proxy or on the content-serving machine side? (if they are different at all...) | 22:57 |
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