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| marcus | hmm, the website says, that the software development of tizen resides within the linux foundation and the companies are only guiding it. is the reality different or are the same companies behind this technical steering group? | 00:12 |
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| marcus | on another topic, we are thinking about utilising linux tablets. is the spark tablet the only one using mer? do you know of other linux tablets? | 00:14 |
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| Macer | is the spark even out? | 02:13 |
| Macer | heh | 02:13 |
| Macer | i thought it was the new pandora | 02:13 |
| Macer | lol... | 02:15 |
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| Macer | "I find the device/project attractive simply because it will be an open device running real linux." | 02:16 |
| Macer | wow will that guy be in for a surprise later | 02:16 |
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| marcus | the pre-order period for the spark finished. dont know if they actually have produced and sent any out yet | 04:10 |
| marcus | macer, what is your last comment aiming at? | 04:11 |
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| Stskeeps | Macer: take the trolling outside here and stick to technical discussions, please | 05:43 |
| Stskeeps | marcus: in practice tizen is governed behind closed doors and you only have to look at the irc channel logs and mailing lists and website to realize this | 05:44 |
| Stskeeps | marcus: mer runs on a bunch of tegra2 tablets, exopc, etc as well | 05:45 |
| cxl000 | lilstevie I have packaged the tegra3 softfp drivers | 05:50 |
| Stskeeps | marcus: in practice Mer is a core and hardware adaptations exist in the community around the project | 05:51 |
| lilstevie | cxl000, ok thanks, now I just need to build a softfp image | 05:52 |
| marcus | thx for the info, Stskeeps and wmarone_! Mer definitly looks more appealing! :-) | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | marcus: so what are you hoping to use Mer for? | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | (just woke up, so if you already said, please just repeat that :) | 05:57 |
| marcus | i was looking for linux tablets which we might use on top our robots | 05:58 |
| iekku | morning | 05:58 |
| marcus | hehe, good morning! | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | morn iekku :) | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | marcus: well, we see ourselves as the engine, people put hardware adaptation on top of the engine and a UI on top of the engine and you have an installable image | 05:59 |
| marcus | since we do our development in linux, they would be quite appealing compared to android tablets | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | marcus: which gives quite some appeal as you aren't tied to specific hardware types, or specific UIs | 05:59 |
| kulve | is there a list what EGL or GL ES extensions Mer/Nemo expects? | 05:59 |
| marcus | and having qt and html5 support is nice for developing ui apps | 05:59 |
| kulve | EGL version string: 1.4 build 1.6.16.3977 | 05:59 |
| kulve | EGL extensions: EGL_KHR_image EGL_KHR_image_base EGL_KHR_gl_texture_2D_image EGL_KHR_gl_texture_cubemap_image EGL_KHR_gl_renderbuffer_image EGL_KHR_vg_parent_image EGL_KHR_fence_sync EGL_KHR_reusable_sync EGL_IMG_context_priority | 05:59 |
| kulve | that's what I have according to "eglinfo" | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: i think meegotouch-compositor is fairly authorative source in this area | 06:00 |
| Stskeeps | marcus: yeah, and if you wanted to add other toolkits you could do this as well. in html5 area, people are running phonegap on top, or others add GTK+, etc | 06:01 |
| marcus | Stskeeps: I found Mer through the Shark tablet. We probably will not get in touch with core development much, but since we are wiritng programms on top, it is important to know whats possible | 06:01 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:01 |
| Stskeeps | we're in the process of providing platform SDK, first for building images, next for easily cross compiling programs | 06:01 |
| Stskeeps | and then we'll have a qt creator integrated SDK over time | 06:01 |
| marcus | cross compiling? crossing what? | 06:02 |
| Stskeeps | marcus: cross compiling: compiling from X86 host to ARM/MIPS targets :) | 06:03 |
| marcus | also, is there a lot of html5 app developing going on although it is not fixed yet | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | you can develop your app on your PC, run it in fast virtual machine and quite easily build it for alternative targets too | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | well, people are investigating PhoneGap at the moment and it works mostly | 06:05 |
| marcus | that sounds nice indeed | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | we have a full fledged QtWebKit | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | (2.2.1) | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | so pretty good html5 compliance | 06:05 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: so, I assume this is the list: http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-compositor/blobs/master/src/mtexturefrompixmap_egl.cpp#line42 | 06:06 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: you'll also want to look at the 'meego' graphicssystem plugin | 06:06 |
| Stskeeps | in qt | 06:06 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: on PC, we just ignore EGL_KHR_gl_texture_2D_image | 06:07 |
| kulve | that I have but I don't have EGL_KHR_image_pixmap | 06:07 |
| Stskeeps | that's awkward | 06:07 |
| Stskeeps | so no texture from pixmap? | 06:07 |
| kulve | if missing that extensions means that, then yes | 06:08 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't the GFX SDK has some demo program to this respect? | 06:09 |
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| * Stskeeps ponders idly what to work on today | 06:15 | |
| iekku | same here | 06:17 |
| iekku | i can't find the button to turn work mode on | 06:17 |
| iekku | more coffee needed | 06:17 |
| dm8tbr | coffee that reminds me to refill... | 06:28 |
| dm8tbr | all day meatinks... | 06:28 |
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| timoph | Stskeeps: sb2 to sdk? ;) | 06:32 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: well, you were on that ;) | 06:32 |
| timoph | :) | 06:32 |
| timoph | yeah. I got the emulated part working but couldn't figure out why it didn't work without the emulation | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | and doing quite well with it | 06:33 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/RN_4_04_00_01 "[NEW] EGL_KHR_Image_Pixmap Extension support added." | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: and what version are you on? | 06:33 |
| kulve | Graphics_SDK_4_03_00_02 | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | arh | 06:34 |
| timoph | I'll try to find time to retry today/tomorrow | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: OK | 06:34 |
| kulve | that was the last one support officially .32 kernel. I wonder if it would be possible to get the 4_04_00_01 working with that too.. | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | http://e2e.ti.com/support/dsp/omap_applications_processors/f/447/t/101221.aspx claims he has 4_04 on 2.6.32 | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | well, .. ish | 06:36 |
| Stskeeps | worth a shot i'd say | 06:37 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: Graphics_SDK_4_04_00_01/GFX_Linux_KM/services4/3rdparty/linux_drm/drm_global.c:34:24: error: drm_global.h: No such file or directory | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: CONFIG_DRM maybe | 07:09 |
| kulve | that seems to be found only from a newer kernel than 2.6.32 | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 07:10 |
| kulve | I enabled SUPPORT_XORG and that seems to require DRM | 07:11 |
| kulve | I wonder if the XORG support is really needed in Nemo case..? | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, you can only do sane TFP with DRI | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it is | 07:13 |
| * timoph wonders why 'zypper se scratchbox' doesn't find anything in the sdk but using the full package name does | 07:13 | |
| Stskeeps | timoph: something's broken in that area | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | file a bug so we remember | 07:13 |
| * timoph files | 07:14 | |
| timoph | against zypper or.. | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 07:15 |
| Sage__ | timoph: zypper se doesn't work | 07:15 |
| Sage__ | we should update the whole zypper and stuff :/ | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | do we know why, btw? | 07:16 |
| Sage__ | I don't have any idea at least | 07:16 |
| Sage__ | might be some meego specific patch issue | 07:16 |
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| timoph | but anyway. not being able to search stuff with patterns is a bit akward | 07:25 |
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| Sage__ | timoph: agreed | 07:27 |
| Macer | marcus: i'm simply pointing out that i have yet to see a truly open device. truly open hardware is hard to come by | 07:27 |
| Macer | there is always ip attached to it ;-) | 07:28 |
| Macer | although if the spark was open from the ground up that would be absolutely awesome | 07:28 |
| Macer | it would be great to see what can be done with jardware that doesnt have an overabundance of ip roadblocks | 07:29 |
| Macer | hardware | 07:29 |
| Sage__ | Stskeeps: # Produce .chk files for the final stripped binaries | 07:30 |
| Sage__ | Stskeeps: ^ what does that mean? | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | Sage__: long story short it's a checksum/signature of the security libraries | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/pki/nss/tech-notes/tn6.html | 07:31 |
| Macer | The Spark project has revealed that their new Spark tablet will run Mer, a community-based version of MeeGo Linux with the KDE Plasma Active software environment. | 07:33 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: have you gotten a prototype? | 07:33 |
| Stskeeps | no, i'm not involved with the spark project beyond my role in Mer | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | it does exist, though | 07:35 |
| marcus | Macer: Okay, now I understand! :-) | 07:36 |
| vgrade | morning | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | morn vgrae | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade | 07:36 |
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| Macer | ah ok. figured they may have sent you a prototype. | 07:38 |
| * Sage__ ponders what he destroyed now | 07:39 | |
| Sage__ | nothing provides libfreebl3.so | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: i have too much equipment anyway | 07:40 |
| Sage__ | :headdesk: | 07:40 |
| Sage__ | glibc has hardcoded nss requirement? | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | define hardcoded | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | you (probably) need to re-build glibc, yeah | 07:41 |
| Sage__ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=nss&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | weird it's not backwards compatible | 07:42 |
| Sage__ | grr | 07:42 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.mail-archive.com/hlfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org/msg02481.html | 07:43 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: yeah but it would be nice to see what mer is doing on andevice built on it from the ground up | 07:44 |
| Sage__ | do we have that? | 07:44 |
| Macer | might help give insight as to what improvenebts can be made and help as a baseline as what to expect | 07:45 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: where the cross- stuff was again? | 07:45 |
| dm8tbr | reminds me to kick _av500_ for gen9 SDE | 07:45 |
| Sage__ | ok, apparently we have that | 07:45 |
| Sage__ | Stskeeps: so how can one recompile stuff with that enabled :D | 07:46 |
| Sage__ | we need to disable it and then build nss and then re-enable? | 07:46 |
| Macer | since a spark seems like a good example as to what the goal of mer is to become | 07:46 |
| jukkaeklund | dm8tbr, would be nice.. | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: they feed back to us through the mer channels for this | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | Sage__: sounds screwed up we can't do without that | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: releases.*, in /armv7l/ for instance | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | and i586/ in there | 07:47 |
| timoph | ok | 07:48 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: but you are the lead project manager. it is like a priest touching the hand of God ;-) | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: i'm involved with my own device stuff too, so i keep track of what's needed, etc | 07:49 |
| Sage__ | Stskeeps: well, our glibc is old maybe update for it needed to solve this.. | 07:49 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage__: yeah.. i have a eglibc 2.15 staged | 07:49 |
| Sage__ | Stskeeps: can you do rpm -qp --requires eglibc package and check what kind of dep it has | 07:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:50 |
| Sage__ | libfreebl3.so(NSSRAWHASH_3.12.3) | 07:50 |
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| Sage__ | I hope there isnt' that one included | 07:51 |
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| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/3531820 | 07:52 |
| Stskeeps | hello sylv | 07:52 |
| sylv | hello | 07:52 |
| Stskeeps | welcome :) so what brings you here to #mer ? | 07:52 |
| Sage__ | :/ still the same thing | 07:52 |
| Stskeeps | Sage__: what happens if you try to build glibc? | 07:53 |
| sylv | Curiosity first | 07:53 |
| Stskeeps | sylv: alright, if you have any questions regarding Mer, you're more than welcome to ask :) | 07:54 |
| sylv | thank you :) | 07:54 |
| sylv | is there a roadmap for mer? | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | right now we're going quite iteratively, but we're reaching a point where we have platform sdk, quite stable core with 4.8.0 and qtwebkit 2.2.1, etc | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | people are already working with the core to make interesting products with it | 07:56 |
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| sylv | It sounds good to me | 07:57 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: does it make a difference to to use cross-glibc or install those into the sb2-inited rootfs | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: no, just binutils and gcc | 07:57 |
| timoph | not sure if I understand how that works | 07:57 |
| Macer | hm. looks like the spark has mini usb ports | 07:58 |
| sylv | Stskeeps: thank you, see you | 07:59 |
| Macer | maybe i am looking at it wrong | 07:59 |
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| Stskeeps | timoph: all you need on host is cross-binutils and cross-gcc | 08:00 |
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| timoph | Stskeeps: ack | 08:09 |
| Sage__ | Stskeeps: is is ok, btw to build nss with system sqlite and zlib? | 08:09 |
| timoph | ls | 08:09 |
| timoph | :/ | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | Sage__: i need to see a dependency graph on what really uses nss.. | 08:09 |
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| Sage__ | how can I get builds going again? | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | wipebinaries, probably | 08:19 |
| Sage__ | did wipebinaries and disabled whole nss build, publish and use for build | 08:19 |
| Sage__ | still same problem | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | wipebinaries of nss itself? | 08:19 |
| Sage__ | didn't help either | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | url to the project again? | 08:20 |
| Sage__ | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | wtf | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | congrats, you managed to break obs :) | 08:23 |
| jukkaeklund | anyone running mer on kindle fire? | 08:23 |
| Sage__ | Stskeeps: :D | 08:23 |
| Sage__ | lbt: help :D | 08:26 |
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| Sage__ | removed repos and reintroduced them and still same problem :P | 08:27 |
| lbt | Sage__: ? | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: sage managed to break obs :) | 08:29 |
| lbt | does he get to keep both bits? | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | well, first time i've seen it this screwed up | 08:30 |
| Sage__ | lol, renamed repository and then it works | 08:30 |
| Sage__ | so wipebinaries isn't cleaning enough? | 08:30 |
| Sage__ | ok, so do we have something more powerfull than wipebinaries for repository? :) | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | Sage__: heh, alsa-lib, i learn about ExtraSources :) | 08:31 |
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| Sage__ | Stskeeps: hehe, handy :) | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, so we can do a .0.0.1 today, preferably as early as possibly | 08:32 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: sounds reasonable | 08:33 |
| Sage__ | Stskeeps: there is a minor bug in extra sources though that I should fix, but it is only causing extra lines for now. | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: how would i push 'just tags' to a remote repo? | 08:34 |
| lbt | you can push a tag iirc | 08:36 |
| lbt | so push --tags <tag> | 08:36 |
| lbt | Sage__: so are you stuck? | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so, what do we call our version tags? v0.20120213.0.0.1 or without v? | 08:37 |
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| Sage__ | lbt: well no if I rename repositories between my every try :P | 08:38 |
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| lbt | hmm skip the v ? - otherwise we'll end up stripping it in scripts | 08:38 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 08:38 |
| lbt | Sage__: OK - I'll see what I can do internally? | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | wasn't sure how git would like that so | 08:39 |
| Sage__ | lbt: well I can't ping you every time. So the main question is: Is there something that does better clean than wipebinaries or should wipebinaries reasolve my conflict already? | 08:41 |
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| lbt | Sage__: I'm looking at it | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | Sage__: so we agree +2w is called 20120313 right? | 08:43 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: what kind of tag too? | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i was thinking annotated(?) | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | should be signed over time | 08:43 |
| lbt | yep - same thoughts | 08:44 |
| Sage__ | Stskeeps: well sounds ok. | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | Sage__: actually i meant to ask lbt, but sure ;) | 08:44 |
| Sage__ | :P | 08:45 |
| * lbt remembers something about thursdays | 08:45 | |
| lbt | "RELEASEDATE = Always a Thursday" | 08:46 |
| lbt | also ... same page ... "Release happens on Wednesday 00:00 UTC." | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | yeah... | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:47 |
| lbt | I was reviewing the docs (briefly) yesterday pending some edits as I did the pre-release :) | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | i know, things got a bit screwed up :) | 08:48 |
| lbt | 20120315 ? | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | no, we agreed on release meeting it was +2w from that meeting | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | which was a tuesday | 08:48 |
| lbt | tbh, even in the meeting I assumed it was 2w on thursday | 08:48 |
| * Stskeeps curses | 08:49 | |
| lbt | I'd rather try the whole cycle as per the docs... and it was set out to permit vendors to work on the prerelease on monday morning | 08:50 |
| lbt | so I think being nice to vendors has > prio than worrying about the meaning of a phrase :) | 08:51 |
| * lbt votes for 20120315 and following the process (editing it as we go) | 08:52 | |
| Stskeeps | okay, and 14 day cycles | 08:52 |
| lbt | yes | 08:52 |
| * Stskeeps goes find out how to remove a tag.. | 08:52 | |
| lbt | -D | 08:52 |
| lbt | -d | 08:52 |
| Bostik | removing a remote tag needs a friendly -r too, I think | 08:53 |
| lbt | nb the whole split-personality packaging/src tree is looking really quite nice | 08:54 |
| lbt | my main concern is that .spec has some deep assumptions about sources/patches | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | have you considered utilizing SourceX: http:// instead of _src, btw? | 08:56 |
| lbt | I wanted them to be buildable as tgz+patches | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | either way, let's get the prerelease/'master' dump on the way | 08:57 |
| lbt | yeah | 08:57 |
| lbt | Sage__: http://pastie.org/3532073 | 08:58 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: obs-projects/Core> git tag -a 0.20120313.0.0.1 | 08:59 |
| lbt | I've not looked at it - will return when release is done | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | git push --tags gerrit | 09:00 |
| lbt | that will push HEAD too | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: need push annotated tag right | 09:00 |
| lbt | which shouldn't matter | 09:00 |
| Sage__ | lbt: yes, I know those but how to get it to rebuild? As you can see the up most repository doesn't have that problem after I did rename for the repository | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | / permission | 09:01 |
| Sage__ | lbt: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: now http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer/project-core.git;a=summary | 09:01 |
| lbt | Sage__: yeah , let me not bork the release first | 09:01 |
| Sage__ | lbt: so how can I call "über clean" for it :) | 09:01 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: yep | 09:01 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: let me review my notes/docs and get back to you in a few mins | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:04 |
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| timoph | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3532097 <- that's the status of cross | 09:06 |
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| Stskeeps | timoph: ok, two sec | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: is glibc-devel installed in chroot? | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | err | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | in target | 09:07 |
| timoph | ? | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | try to install glibc-devel | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | in the target | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | err.. | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | wait | 09:07 |
| timoph | did that :) | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: show me how you sb2-init'ed the target | 09:08 |
| timoph | sb2-init -d -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic nemo /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc | 09:08 |
| timoph | (it's in the paste) | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | ok, before -c, add -L --sysroot=/ -C --sysroot=/ | 09:08 |
| * timoph tries | 09:09 | |
| timoph | seens to be working better | 09:10 |
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| timoph | at least libtool compilation didn't fail straight away | 09:11 |
| licl | Stskeeps: Hi,Stskeeps | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | hi licl | 09:11 |
| licl | Stskeeps:i try to find a window manager in mer | 09:12 |
| licl | but failed | 09:12 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: \o/ http://pastie.org/3532130 | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | licl: yeah, that's part of UI normally, we don't force you to use a certain window manager | 09:12 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: how big is a release? | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: releases/ 7.8gb, obs-repos/ 3.8gb | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | licl: what kind of device are you trying to do? | 09:14 |
| licl | Stskeeps:do you mean that I should select one by myself? | 09:14 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, for instance | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: try sb2 ./test too | 09:15 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: works | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:15 |
| * timoph missing new line in his hello world | 09:15 | |
| licl | Stskeeps:I'm a member of sonach's team | 09:15 |
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| Stskeeps | licl: ok, you can probably use any kind of window manager then, maybe best ones that just fullscreen everything | 09:16 |
| * timoph lunch | 09:17 | |
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| lbt | OK - pre-release is syncing | 09:24 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | did you verify webui-ci wasn't moving? | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | also, we didn't add supports in createrelease.sh for cross/ dir? | 09:25 |
| lbt | oop - sorry, was on cobs | 09:26 |
| lbt | yes, just a DBC qt build | 09:26 |
| lbt | no, not done any mods to scripts | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | at least you can do some basic work with the released binaries | 09:28 |
| licl | Stskeeps:I want to switch windows of sqmh and browser app.How do you think about twm as our window manager?or you have other advises?The grafics backand of browser is X11 | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | licl: perhaps twm, but matchbox isn't bad either | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | as you can control that through matchbox-remote | 09:29 |
| licl | Stskeeps:ok,thank u.I will try. | 09:29 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: as part of the docs for the release I'll explain the dir structure | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:31 |
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| alterego | Looking at the B2G wikipage, seems like they've got a lot of work to do getting rid of Android cruft. Can't help but think they'd be better off just using Mer | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: i think they're not strictly tied to android, but it has given them a time advantage | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: once we have core-toolchain split, i expect them to join the fold | 09:44 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: release done? | 09:47 |
| * timoph cross compiling an Qt application with the sdk | 09:48 | |
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| timoph | nice. can bring up a GUI from arm build with sb2 -e ./binary | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, don't rely on that feature though | 09:53 |
| jukkaeklund | timoph, I have a battery for you btw if you need | 09:54 |
| dcthang | hey any idea to imrpve network for Nemo? | 09:55 |
| dcthang | wrong room sorry | 09:55 |
| timoph | jukkaeklund: got 3 of them already :) | 09:55 |
| jukkaeklund | ok, I'll keep it then.. | 09:56 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: why? | 09:57 |
| timoph | unstable/not supported? | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: unstable | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: you're very likely to run into threading issues | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: it's better to develop utilizing a x86 target | 09:57 |
| timoph | ah | 09:57 |
| timoph | need to remember to add that disclaimer to the docs | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 09:59 |
| timoph | basically it's the same as with sb1 | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | if possible, test if you can do sb2 with a x86 target too | 09:59 |
| alterego | Maybe we could have tighter integration with cross-compilation targets? | 09:59 |
| alterego | devices, sorru. | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | we're just making building blocks atm | 10:00 |
| alterego | I think we need an SDK tool. | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 10:00 |
| timoph | true | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | or at least some shorthand stuff | 10:01 |
| alterego | Yeah, | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | it's my belief any developer should learn how to build their own image, though | 10:01 |
| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, define which type of developer? | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: if you're using platform sdk, you're likely to need it | 10:02 |
| timoph | platform dev I'd suppose | 10:02 |
| alterego | Yeah, not sure app devs will care about platform stuff ;) | 10:02 |
| alterego | But we don't cater for app devs, platforms are our apps. | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | sort-of, we stil want to make building blocks for qt sdk | 10:02 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: still syncing | 10:02 |
| alterego | Is madde rootfs creation still broken? | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: more like no work started on it | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: i'm hoping to draw inspiraton from the qtonpi work | 10:03 |
| alterego | I was thinking about the raspberry pi lastnight. | 10:03 |
| alterego | How you could get one of those, a projector or large screen TV, and have a really cool platform for class room collaboration :) | 10:04 |
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| alterego | Can't wait to get one. | 10:05 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: I'll try the x86 sb2 setup later | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: ok | 10:07 |
| lbt | http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120315.0.0.1/ | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: http://pastie.org/3532365 is changelog | 10:08 |
| timoph | tried compiling the Qt application without sb2 with interesting results though. seems that I'm missing something on runtime | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | make a snapshot release email | 10:08 |
| lbt | MDS on c.obs? | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | well, that too | 10:08 |
| lbt | mer-next? | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | right | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | make a copy of mappings.xml this time | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:09 |
| lbt | really? | 10:09 |
| lbt | *g* | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | and remember it's not obs-projects/Core you have to pull in | 10:09 |
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| slaine | Sigh, my RaspberryPi delivery date got bumped again | 10:09 |
| slaine | Mid March -> Late April -> Late May | 10:10 |
| alterego | Well, at least you have a delivery date :P | 10:10 |
| slaine | Do I really though, it keeps changing. | 10:12 |
| slaine | It's probably a good sign actually | 10:12 |
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| timoph | http://timoph.fi/withsb2.png vs http://timoph.fi/withoutsb2.png | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: missing fonts | 10:19 |
| timoph | does Mer provide fonts or is that ui providers issue? | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | it does, atm | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | SDK just doesn't | 10:22 |
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| timoph | ah | 10:22 |
| timoph | yep. that solved it | 10:25 |
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| Sage__ | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3532508 | 10:38 |
| Sage__ | so it is just something gone bad it seems. | 10:38 |
| Sage__ | should be there but it isn't | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | check if it uses the version script? | 10:40 |
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| eocanha | Stskeeps: have you ever had problems with mic2 telling it to use --arch=i486 but getting errors about "Given arch 'i586' is not found from the repositories"? I'm using a local project called "mer-486" with repo called "Core_i586" and it actually has i486 binary packages. Does the "Core_i586" have some underscore magic with special meaning, or could I have called it "weird_name" aund would have been the same? | 10:54 |
| lbt | eocanha: are you still using mic2? | 10:55 |
| eocanha | yes O:-) | 10:55 |
| Sage__ | lbt: did you upstream that mic patch for the i486 btw? | 10:55 |
| lbt | any special reason? | 10:55 |
| lbt | Sage__: no | 10:56 |
| Sage__ | lbt: why? :) | 10:56 |
| lbt | forgot | 10:56 |
| lbt | :) | 10:56 |
| lbt | now on my list though | 10:56 |
| Sage__ | Upstream first! :D | 10:56 |
| lbt | hehe | 10:57 |
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| eocanha | I'm using it because I have the .ks config files prepared for it. What's the recommended way now? | 10:57 |
| lbt | release first | 10:57 |
| lbt | eocanha: using "mic" | 10:57 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Category:Mic | 10:57 |
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| lbt | and yes, I have a task to update the wiki pages linked there | 10:57 |
| Sage__ | Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/binary?arch=i586&filename=nss-softokn-freebl-3.13.3-13.1.i586.rpm&package=nss&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl&repository=A_Mer_Core_i586 \o/ | 10:58 |
| eocanha | oh, actually I'm using mic | 10:58 |
| eocanha | $ mic --version | 10:58 |
| eocanha | 0.24.14 | 10:58 |
| Sage__ | that is mic2 | 10:58 |
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| eocanha | forget that mic2 thing. I read it somewhere and it stuck in my head. | 10:59 |
| lbt | eocanha: can you use the platform SDK | 10:59 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 10:59 |
| lbt | that's pretty reliable | 11:00 |
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| eocanha | hmmm... looks good | 11:01 |
| eocanha | that might work in Ubuntu Natty out of the box, so maybe I could delete the Fedora 15 virtual machine that I have only to build the images :-) | 11:03 |
| Sage__ | ANNOUNCEMENT: Nemo Mobile Status sync meeting now at #mer-meeting | 11:09 |
| lbt | eocanha: yes - that's the idea | 11:11 |
| lbt | eocanha: just make sure you understand how it uses bind mounts | 11:11 |
| eocanha | ok | 11:11 |
| Sage__ | Stskeeps: the nss and nspr update is tightly together so both needs to go in at the same time and thus review doesn't go well | 11:16 |
| lbt | Sage__: I'm surprised you didn't point out that Nemo's process doesn't have that problem :D | 11:18 |
| Sage__ | lbt: ? :) | 11:18 |
| Sage__ | ah, well I've said that already ;) | 11:19 |
| lbt | :) | 11:19 |
| Sage__ | BOSS on Nemo handles that yes | 11:19 |
| lbt | nb ... I'm still writing up release stuff - not forgotten about the OBS issue | 11:20 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: release done? read: can i start integrating more content? | 11:30 |
| Stskeeps | or should i wait a bit | 11:30 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: was waiting for you to get back - release is done, not pulled to cobs MDS yet | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:51 |
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| Stskeeps | Release management meeting in #mer-meeting now | 12:01 |
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| eocanha | tried mic (from Mer SDK) with my existing .ks file, but I'm having a strange error: | 12:15 |
| eocanha | Error <config>: File contains no section headers. | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | eocanha: show the command line please | 12:16 |
| eocanha | The .ks file seems normal. Actually, it worked with Meego's mic2 | 12:16 |
| eocanha | the line is: | 12:16 |
| eocanha | KSFILE=mer486-barebones.ks | 12:16 |
| eocanha | KSARCH=i486 | 12:16 |
| eocanha | mic create liveusb \ | 12:17 |
| eocanha | --verbose \ | 12:17 |
| eocanha | --pkgmgr=yum \ | 12:17 |
| eocanha | --config=$KSFILE \ | 12:17 |
| eocanha | --cachedir=/rdc/mic/rpms \ | 12:17 |
| eocanha | --arch=$KSARCH | 12:17 |
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| Stskeeps | eocanha: mic cr --help | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | eocanha: mic cr liveusb kickstartfile OPTIONS | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | eocanha: --config is an actual config for mic so it complains | 12:18 |
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| eocanha | ah, ok | 12:19 |
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| lbt | food 'n stuff .... bbiab | 13:08 |
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| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: what platform are you using qt sdk on, btw | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 13:19 |
| jukkaeklund | windows and ubuntu | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:19 |
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| jukkaeklund | X-Fade, is tablets-dev down? | 13:23 |
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| timoph | how's thu 14 utc for you for the sdk status meet? | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | i might not be able to attend | 13:27 |
| timoph | earlier/later? | 13:28 |
| jukkaeklund | so, also repository.maemo.org is down | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | that one works for me | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: earlier | 13:28 |
| timoph | 9 utc? would make it lunch time .fi | 13:29 |
| timoph | lbt: Sage_ & co. ^ | 13:31 |
| Sage_ | I'm not entirely sure if Thu works for me at all. I might have other things todo but not sure yet | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | i'm good for anything friday+, i'm on my own for 3 weeks | 13:32 |
| timoph | I can live with fri too | 13:32 |
| timoph | not too late though | 13:33 |
| timoph | anyway I'll try to announce the time for it today. current proposal fri 10utc. ping me if you disagree. I have to go for a while | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:36 |
| * kulve curses again: TI's GFX releases are not fun to use | 13:37 | |
| lbt | timoph: whenever is fine - just finish <17:00 on friday :) | 13:38 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: I'll do the meeting minutes when I've eaten if you like | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:40 |
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| slaine | As seen on #fedora-arm, | 13:57 |
| slaine | <ctyler> jsmith, pbrobinson, etc. who have Raspi certs: they'll be fulfilled directly from the Foundation when they have boards, in about 10 days. | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:57 |
| lbt | ta | 13:57 |
| slaine | np | 13:57 |
| slaine | lbt, there was a cockup with my RAM upgrade order, looks like it'll be the end of the week | 13:58 |
| slaine | I'll harass you then ;) | 13:58 |
| lbt | sure :) | 13:58 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: so does MDS provide the ability to build against any snapshot/pre-/release | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: current or mds2 | 14:01 |
| lbt | mds2 is fine | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | it depends on what repositories are available in obs-repos/, i would guess | 14:01 |
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| lbt | the new OBS version is not as stable with tmpfs as the version I had running :( | 14:09 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: updatestorm is taking a loooong time | 14:27 |
| lbt | 22mins so far | 14:28 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: also fakeobs is taking 73% of cpu | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: it does | 14:31 |
| lbt | that's not good | 14:31 |
| lbt | that's not good <- fakeobs cpu usage | 14:31 |
| lbt | since it's idle right now | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | check nohup.out.. | 14:32 |
| lbt | yeah - it's getting a hit every second or so | 14:32 |
| lbt | tha'ts idle though isn't it? | 14:32 |
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| lbt | I mean one no-op http request per second shouldn't be pegging the cpu at >70% .... but if it's expected.... | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | you don't see when it finishes, though | 14:36 |
| lbt | ah, I assumed that fakeobs wouldn't be busy until updatestorm was done | 14:37 |
| Stskeeps | that part of the handling isn't terribly fast as it has to go through events | 14:38 |
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| Stskeeps | and it starts querying about packages | 14:38 |
| lbt | ok | 14:39 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: OK - that didn't work then | 14:49 |
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| lbt | shell level notes on http://airy:5001/Release%20steps | 14:50 |
| lbt | main issues I think are that a) make update didn't pull in the new snapshot to obs-repos/ and b) mappings.xml doesn't mention the new repo | 14:51 |
| lbt | I don't know if that's a client side thing or should come in the make update | 14:52 |
| Stskeeps | you used make updte? | 14:52 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:52 |
| lbt | I did | 14:52 |
| * Stskeeps sighs | 14:52 | |
| lbt | this is why I'm writing it up... | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | go take a look at obs-projects/Core | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | and git log | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | does that seem right? | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:53 |
| lbt | there's 7Gig of data ... the docs are there so I know which bit to look in | 14:53 |
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| lbt | I'm following the same steps we used last time BTW | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | which was for a full release | 14:54 |
| * lbt types M-x read-stskeeps-mind .... to see if emacs can help ... | 14:55 | |
| lbt | nope | 14:55 |
| lbt | bbias | 14:56 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: obs-projects/Core and git checkout 4217dfa7ed3cdc70758b54741a214a9d5c991b2d (no, we don't have a tag for that) | 14:57 |
| lbt | Pickup mer-kickstarter-configs, 27/2/2012 ? | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | right | 14:58 |
| lbt | top log item is 8a9b7ba8df2799ecc032a203bf1e6b7c10524dc4 Pickup 1, 3/3/2012, remove -accel packages | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | yes, because you just upgraded Mer:fake:Core to latest snapshot | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | that's the last commit in 0.20120209.1 (4217dfa) | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | and since today, we started tagging the releases | 14:59 |
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| Stskeeps | for future reference: update: fetchlatestrepo updatepackages all updatecore updatesstorm | 15:00 |
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| Stskeeps | for a prerelease you manually rsync the obs-repos and git pull in obs-projects/Core-next | 15:00 |
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| djszapi | hey guys :) | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | ie, the obs-repos matching it | 15:00 |
| djszapi | I would like to package openal(-soft) since it is apparently not available yet ... | 15:01 |
| djszapi | which repository would it fit into ? | 15:01 |
| Stskeeps | start with your nearest UI project | 15:01 |
| djszapi | it feels like a middleware stuff | 15:01 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: make updatepackages will update packages-git/, that's ok | 15:02 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so: to fetch a prerelease, you updatepackages, you re-make the mappings cache, then you rsync the obs-repos matching the release, and then you git pull in Core-next, and run updatesstorm | 15:04 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: OK ... give me a minute then | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: don't think any harm was done since we didn't update the binary repositories, though some linkpacs might be confused | 15:06 |
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| Stskeeps | since we'll be going back in time | 15:07 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: can you review http://airy:5001/Release%20steps#snapshot-and-pre-release | 15:33 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:33 |
| Stskeeps | interesting point in https://lwn.net/Articles/485383/ btw | 15:33 |
| Stskeeps | looks correct | 15:34 |
| lbt | yes, launchpad has always seemed somewhat opaque | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | it's an important argument against ubuntu core | 15:35 |
| lbt | if they go down, you go down | 15:35 |
| lbt | now - do I need to somehow revert the git for Core ? | 15:36 |
| lbt | ok - that's what you were saying before | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:37 |
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| lbt | mmm | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | get it back on the commit it was on before | 15:39 |
| lbt | leaving it in detached head state .... wondering if that'll break | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | probably on next 'make update', but i'm not sure how else to get to a state "further back on master branch" | 15:39 |
| lbt | git reset --hard 4217dfa7ed3cdc70758b54741a214a9d5c991b2d | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | maybe master^something | 15:39 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3534270 | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:42 |
| lbt | that git reset does exactly what you said "set the tip further back up the branch" | 15:43 |
| lbt | I *could* reset origin/master but there's no real point | 15:43 |
| lbt | --hard means "as if you'd done a force checkout" | 15:44 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:44 |
| RaYmAn | doesn't it also kind of break it for any other existing checkouts pretty much? =P (which might be ok in this case) | 15:45 |
| lbt | RaYmAn: it can be used as essentially "totally undo this commit" - which is bad if you've pushed to a shared repo | 15:47 |
| lbt | OTOH it's quite useful when you have a ref pointing to the wrong place | 15:48 |
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| lbt | in this case we did a pull and ffwd'ed the local master by mistake | 15:48 |
| RaYmAn | ah :) | 15:48 |
| RaYmAn | then yeah,that's the way to do it =P | 15:49 |
| lbt | there's probably something to be said for better use of symbolic refs around this area - but mds2 has a different approach anyway | 15:49 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: "release note prep" is wrong | 15:53 |
| N900_rus | hello) | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | pickupchanges is something i use in my daily work | 15:53 |
| lbt | OK - I was guessing from the pastie you showed me | 15:55 |
| lbt | you have said that we need a better release note maker - I guess it will naturally fall out of the MDS2 structure | 15:56 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 15:57 |
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| berndhs | hi folks, is there something that can tell me in my .bash_profile that I am entering the mer chroot ? | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | basically something that looks at tag A & B difference in project-core, and then gives me a changelog for each package | 15:59 |
| berndhs | I do normally do things like ssh-add, that wont work in the chroot | 15:59 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: yes | 15:59 |
| lbt | berndhs: yes, there is | 15:59 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Advanced_details | 16:00 |
| lbt | "The environment variable MERSDK is set to 1 to allow .profile to detect the SDK." | 16:00 |
| berndhs | ah ok, thank you | 16:00 |
| lbt | hopefully that'll be enough :) | 16:00 |
| lbt | I did wonder about making it a login shell - but I think this is an OK compromise | 16:01 |
| berndhs | shoudl be straightforward, if [ X$MERSDK != "X! ] ... | 16:03 |
| berndhs | X1 | 16:03 |
| berndhs | stupid german keyboard | 16:03 |
| lbt | :) | 16:03 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: let me know when it's updatesstorming again | 16:22 |
| lbt | just doing the rsync | 16:22 |
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| Stskeeps | k | 16:22 |
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| berndhs | ha, successfully built the wrong image :) | 16:24 |
| lbt | *g* | 16:24 |
| lbt | but easily I hope | 16:24 |
| berndhs | yes was pretty straightforward | 16:25 |
| berndhs | so now I know the basic tools are in place, have to figure out how to make an arm image | 16:25 |
| lbt | *nod* | 16:25 |
| lbt | next steps in that area for me are to link SDK with either c.obs or a private obs | 16:26 |
| lbt | but I want to improve kickstarter | 16:26 |
| lbt | and that's a fair few days away | 16:26 |
| berndhs | this working-for-a-living stuff is seriously slowing me down now | 16:27 |
| lbt | trust me, it's a nice problem to have :D | 16:27 |
| berndhs | it is yes | 16:27 |
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| aws | hi | 16:36 |
| aws | im just testing mer on my n900 | 16:36 |
| N900_rus | hi | 16:36 |
| aws | nice work, since the last time i looked at it | 16:36 |
| aws | is it possible to change the keyboard layout, yet? | 16:37 |
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| N900_rus | на руский??? | 16:37 |
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| N900_rus | aws | 16:38 |
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| N900_rus | :( | 16:38 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: make updatesstorm | 16:55 |
| lbt | aws: you mean at the X level ? | 16:56 |
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| lbt | bloody OBS error messages: publish failed: 500 remote error: remote error Internal Server Error | 17:06 |
| lbt | no kidding, that's helpful | 17:06 |
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| Stskeeps | check nohup.out | 17:31 |
| lbt | this is OBS bs_publish | 17:33 |
| lbt | "publishing home:Admin:sb2:noaccel/Core_armv7l" ... I'm guessing that package has an issue and some api call is failing | 17:35 |
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| aws | i'm just trying to update, on the shell, like it is told in the wiki | 17:41 |
| aws | but every time the first package is beeing downloaded, the download stops | 17:42 |
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| aws | wlan0 is up, the options menu says i'm connected, but the connection doesn't work | 17:42 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: huh, where is that on | 17:43 |
| lbt | be | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | webui-ci ? | 17:43 |
| lbt | yes | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | oh, you're trying to fix rsync | 17:43 |
| lbt | yes | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | ignore that error, the project is gone on fakeobs side | 17:44 |
| lbt | mainly done - seeing that come up - I think it's a different .... OK | 17:44 |
| Stskeeps | is it causing a problem? | 17:44 |
| lbt | no, just red-herring on rsync publish failure | 17:44 |
| lbt | waiting for some activity to see if it works | 17:44 |
| lbt | repo VM had the wrong default route on reboot | 17:44 |
| lbt | just doing some infra checking - dcp etc | 17:46 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 17:47 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: OK, updatestorm is done ... but it's looking quiet | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | Core-next was pulled? | 17:50 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3535164 | 17:51 |
| Stskeeps | ok.. one step i forgot | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | adjust mappings.xml for <mapping project="Core-next:i586" path="obs-projects/Core-next/i586" binaries="obs-repos/Core:i586:0.20120209.0.1" reponame="Core_i586" /> | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | see the problem? | 17:52 |
| lbt | yep - wondered about that | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | and updatesstorm again | 17:52 |
| lbt | I actually wasn't sure if that happened locally or was pulled in | 17:53 |
| Sage_ | where was the build for mer? | 17:55 |
| Sage_ | obs-build? | 17:55 |
| lbt | oh... | 17:56 |
| lbt | there's a really old version in mer-core | 17:57 |
| lbt | I'm not sure it belongs there | 17:57 |
| lbt | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/build.git;a=tree | 17:58 |
| lbt | http://github.com/Merproject/obs-build too | 17:59 |
| Sage_ | well mainly asking what I should install to my f16 so that it would work ok with the obs-sb2 stuff | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | that's a good question | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | file a bug please | 18:00 |
| lbt | saying? | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: github.com/Merproject one | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: "build doesn't have to be in core?" | 18:00 |
| lbt | OK | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | i think it does for mkbaselibs but i'm not sure | 18:00 |
| lbt | I'm using it as an experimental package for gitpkg FYI | 18:01 |
| lbt | #215 | 18:04 |
| lbt | -> more food | 18:04 |
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| Sage_ | Error: setting up a VM requires bsdtar for security reasons. | 18:23 |
| Sage_ | ok, so where can one get bsdtar? | 18:23 |
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| Sage_ | pah, f16 doesn't build libarchive with bsdtar :P | 18:26 |
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| Sage_ | http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=libarchive.git;a=blob;f=libarchive.spec;h=34c4f308448f9c03898fbc5cb5b4f078d6efff13;hb=refs/heads/f16#l46 | 18:29 |
| Sage_ | and confirmed :/ | 18:29 |
| Sage_ | is bsdtar requirement from sb2 or was it introduced just to some newer osc? | 18:30 |
| Sage_ | lbt, Stskeeps: Mer has also bsdtar disabled, maybe we should enable it there as well? | 18:32 |
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| Sage_ | hmmp... does osc work in sdk without bsdtar? | 18:39 |
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| Stskeeps | get bsdtar for security reasons | 18:47 |
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| marquiz_ | Stskeeps: osc local build fails (haven't tried in a long time), do i need special osc or build because of the sb2 stuff? | 18:57 |
| marquiz_ | trying to build moslo of pub.meego.com | 18:57 |
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| Stskeeps | marquiz_: yes, github.com/Merproject -> obs-build and osc, just make install them | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | we're working to get it upstream | 19:00 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: ? | 19:01 |
| marquiz_ | Stskeeps: ok, thx! | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: bsdtar is good for secure extraction of preinstalled packages | 19:07 |
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| Stskeeps | well, i think we could get this working for mer too | 19:12 |
| timoph | would be nice | 19:13 |
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| timoph | does it need big changes? | 19:14 |
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| Stskeeps | well, we need to provide a sysroot, a qmake for the host, a cross compiler | 19:16 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: so where are we at wrt prerelease? | 19:23 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: ok, but should we include it to Mer core as a separate package of libarchive? | 19:25 |
| Sage_ | *separate subpackage | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: yes, sure | 19:26 |
| * Stskeeps wonders what deps on libarchive anyway | 19:26 | |
| Sage_ | - highlights:rebuilt: cmake contextkit libarchive libsatsolver libzypp qjson qt-mobility qtwebkit sensorfw zypper | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | cmake, really.. | 19:27 |
| Sage_ | hmmp... prolly not | 19:27 |
| * Sage_ checks | 19:27 | |
| Sage_ | actually it seems so | 19:28 |
| Sage_ | 76 set(CMAKE_USE_SYSTEM_LIBARCHIVE YES CACHE BOOL "" FORCE) | 19:28 |
| * Sage_ ponders where he would get bsdtar to his f16 | 19:30 | |
| Stskeeps | it's not strictly needed for obs builds though | 19:31 |
| Sage_ | well obs-build requires it and doesn't run without | 19:31 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | what error specifically? | 19:32 |
| Sage_ | a moment | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | and do you do kvm builds or chroot? | 19:33 |
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| Sage_ | http://pastie.org/private/jjxmfmiddhdrsngxyqmpza | 19:35 |
| Sage_ | trying to do osc build locally | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | ahcrud | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | sb2 builds are naturally a bsdtar yes | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | it cheats and makes it into a vm | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | "vm" | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | and yes, i mean quotes | 19:36 |
| Sage_ | ok is there way to "cheat" my way out of that without bsdtar? :D | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | edit the check out in init_buildsystem | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | aren't you using fedora? | 19:37 |
| Sage_ | yes fedora 16 | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 19:38 |
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| Stskeeps | i think i cheated and took it from opensuse binary or something | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | or built it myself | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | and copied the binary | 19:38 |
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| Sage_ | there is no bsdtar in fedora16, i was added about a month ago to f17 | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i use f15 or something | 19:39 |
| Sage_ | ok, more questions. | 19:44 |
| Sage_ | osc downloads 109 rpm's but installs only 40 | 19:44 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: ok so what now http://pastie.org/3535873 ? | 19:45 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: wth :P | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: ok, rm -rf your build root (var/tmp/build-root) and try again | 19:54 |
| * Sage_ ponders when he has used something without asking any questions or facing any problems :D | 19:54 | |
| Sage_ | is --clean enough? | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | maybe | 19:54 |
| Sage_ | :P | 19:54 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: back now ... prerelease storm is building | 19:56 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:56 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: seems like it's building quite a lot | 19:56 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: didn't help | 19:56 |
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| Sage_ | same issue | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: ok, does /usr/lib/build/initscript_ sb2 something exist? | 19:58 |
| Sage_ | yes | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: ok, can you show me the entire build log? | 19:59 |
| Sage_ | http://pastie.org/private/kevsh7y48b8mw0atbtjgg | 20:01 |
| lbt | ok - various silly sysadmin things fixed and configs tweaked - we have CI publishing | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: did you install osc too? | 20:02 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: hmmp... prolly not :P | 20:02 |
| * Sage_ removes old osc rpm to be sure and installs from git | 20:02 | |
| Stskeeps | ok, well, that's why | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | osc generates 'sb2install:' statement so | 20:03 |
| lbt | Sage_: are you using SDK ? | 20:05 |
| Sage_ | lbt: no | 20:05 |
| lbt | OK - that's fine then :) | 20:06 |
| Sage_ | hmmp... | 20:16 |
| Sage_ | I added filesystem package to my pandaboard branch and that didn't cause rebuild as such | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | it's a "Keep" package i think | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | or support, i forget | 20:16 |
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| Stskeeps | either way, it doesn't cause rebuilds | 20:16 |
| Sage_ | oh, ok | 20:17 |
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| lbt | hmm no alterego and the wiki is down | 20:56 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: could you take a look at createrelease_lbt.sh ... it makes http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120315.0.0.1/builds/i486/cross/ for 486/586 I'm not a fan of ../../../../ style directory addressing though so I'd be tempted to rewrite chunks :) | 22:50 |
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| rrix | crevetor: ping? | 23:53 |
| rrix | I have a Mer kernel built according to http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/Touchpad, but when I boot it on my device, systemd dumps all over itself as though I don't have cgroups in the kernel :\ | 23:53 |
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