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| Stskeeps | morn | 05:37 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: you wake up early again | 05:42 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. in my entire childhood, my father woke me up at 6:30am to get me to listen to a radio show for children, that i loved | 05:43 |
| Stskeeps | so if i get my sleeping rhythm nearby waking 6:30, i wake up there without alarm or anything | 05:44 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: it's a good habit to wake up early, which I try and try again | 05:45 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 05:46 |
| Stskeeps | how's the hardware decoding going? | 05:46 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: Last Friday, I can use QMH to play mp3, then this week I want to use QMH to play avi files. | 05:48 |
| Stskeeps | alright, sounds like a good goal :) | 05:48 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: In fact, I make the audio sink and video sink with the hardware's player in SDK. | 05:49 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 05:49 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: It means my sinks contains decoder and sink | 05:49 |
| dm8tbr | random sidenote: at least in case of OMAP3 it is more power efficient to decode mp3 on the CPU if you can spare the cycles | 05:49 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: felipec did a blog post on this didn't he | 05:50 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: no idea, _av500_ told me | 05:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 05:51 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: But I found qt-mobility use the xvimagesink orximagesink as default. So maybe I have to try to make a decode element | 05:52 |
| ZiQiangHuan | dm8tbr: you means for mp3, it's no need to make a gstreamer plugin with hardware's ability | 05:53 |
| Stskeeps | yes, sometimes CPU is more power efficient than using DSP, i'm trying to find where i read that too | 05:53 |
| dm8tbr | ZiQiangHuan: I don't know if it's the case for your hardware, it also depends if you are on a tight power budget or CPU constrained. | 05:53 |
| Stskeeps | but i guess in your STB cpu might be more important for qtmediahub rendering | 05:53 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: think we'll scale up r-pi mentions a bit more once we have sb2 sdk in place, this is a quite nice start | 05:55 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: when I do something in QMH, CUP is used heavily | 05:55 |
| Stskeeps | yes, as it's software rendering | 05:55 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: yes, somethings 100% of CPU is used | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: that's why GLES is a good idea, we can offload it on gpu | 05:57 |
| iekku | morning | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | morn iekku o/ | 05:58 |
| * Stskeeps passes iekku the coffee pot | 05:58 | |
| iekku | thanks mate! needed that :) | 05:58 |
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| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: in fact, I'm not sure there is gpu in our device. Maybe I would try to find how to make a decoder for mpeg4 video stream with my device's SDK. | 06:00 |
| Stskeeps | ZiQiangHuan: yeah, there isn't as far as i recall (sonach told me the name), but anyway, it should be possible to do fast video anyway | 06:01 |
| ZiQiangHuan | Stskeeps: yes | 06:02 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, where are the src rpm's for a particular release held? | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: while a bit controversial, we don't have src rpms | 09:44 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: because they don't succeed their purpose in reproducing the actual build | 09:44 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: the git repos of the packages are the authorative ones | 09:45 |
| vgrade | and these can be extracted easily for a particular release? | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: -ish, you find the matching core git commit and note down what commit to look for in which git repo | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 09:47 |
| vgrade | people are talking about the raspberrypi images not having source links | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer/project-core.git;a=blob;f=packages.xml;h=847919a7bbaa9ba597f773422722737af3319dac;hb=HEAD | 09:48 |
| vgrade | we probably need a script to do a dump for gpl purposes? | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | i'll take it on to me explain | 09:48 |
| lilstevie | vgrade, hi | 09:48 |
| vgrade | lilstevie, hi | 09:48 |
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| Stskeeps | probably, but in practice we've fullfilled our gpl purposes by providing the packages-git/ and fakeobs | 09:48 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, ok i'm happy with that | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | it is, after all, the method we use to build mer with | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: where does people ask about it? | 09:50 |
| vgrade | so we don't have to provide a cd on request | 09:50 |
| lilstevie | vgrade, do you have prebuilt images for tegra2 that include egl drivers | 09:51 |
| vgrade | there was a discussion on #raspberrypi last night nick weasel | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: make a task bug to make scripts to give mer core source dumps i guess | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:52 |
| vgrade | discussion was about the debian and arch images but I thought I'd prempt questions about Mer | 09:52 |
| vgrade | lilstevie, http://images.formeego.org/trimslice/ , a little old but has the egldrivers | 09:54 |
| lilstevie | vgrade, L4T beta? | 09:54 |
| vgrade | issue is to get a matched kernel and libs | 09:54 |
| lilstevie | vgrade, kernel I have | 09:54 |
| lilstevie | alpha doesn't support T3 | 09:54 |
| vgrade | lilstevie, no. I think cxl000 was packaging the latest libs | 09:55 |
| lilstevie | hm ok | 09:55 |
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| Stskeeps | it's just a convention | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | with me so far? | 13:19 |
| lbt | don't quite understand link | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | OK, so, it's a distribution thing | 13:19 |
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| lbt | you say it has to be equal | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | if you recall, OBS will select '<packagename>.spec' to build first | 13:19 |
| lbt | so does that mean the from is the source to ensure | 13:19 |
| lbt | or does it mean there's an error if they differ? | 13:20 |
| lbt | OK - yes | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | the from is the source that gets provided, when you ask for 'to' | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | and you're right, <package name=" " link=" "> would more logical | 13:20 |
| lbt | good - that makes sense then | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | uses in mer include cross compilers, ability to seperate bootstrap packages and their python bindings (file, python-magic), etc | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | rpm, rpm-python | 13:21 |
| lbt | fwiw - if you put name first in the xml it'll be more human friendly | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | file a task bug, it's a reasonable request | 13:21 |
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| lbt | rename <link> as a bug too | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 13:23 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, so, a technical detail, we have packages-git and we have a bunch of details we need to provide quite quickly about a package contents | 13:25 |
| Stskeeps | such as md5 of the files, the srcmd5 of the package, etc | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | which isn't very fast to answer | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | so we have packages-git/mappings.xml which is updated each time you update contents of packages-git/ | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | the mappings cache basically walks through all branches and md5sum's these and assigns the correct srcmd5 and commit, and generated revision number | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | commit at start of a git branch == 1 | 13:28 |
| Sage__ | sry, was in another meeting during the bugtriage :/ | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | is fine | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | revision number is for OBS protocol uses | 13:28 |
| lbt | packages-git? can't see it | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | packages-git is basically == http://releases.merproject.org/packages-git/ | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | packages-git/mappingscache.xml is on a fakeobs and generated | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/3525825 | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | this kind of format | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | fakeobs/mds2 | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | mds2 will watch the timestamp of mappingscache.xml and re-load it into memory if need be | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | mappingscache is needed because md5sum'ing things each time is too damn slow :P | 13:32 |
| lbt | yep | 13:33 |
| lbt | srcmd5 ? | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | more obs magic | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 13:33 |
| lbt | .osc/_files | 13:35 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: srcmd5 is basically is the md5sum of, for all filenames (sorted) "md5sum filename\n" | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: and yes that's two spaces | 13:36 |
| lbt | ouch | 13:36 |
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| lbt | dirmd5 kinda | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 13:37 |
| lbt | interesting ... | 13:37 |
| lbt | that's going to matter for my _src thing | 13:38 |
| lbt | maybe | 13:38 |
| lbt | anyhow... carry on | 13:38 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: actually ... break ... bbiab? | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:40 |
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| slaine | stalled waiting on that RAM delivery | 13:56 |
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| FluxiFlax2022 | hi what are the latest changes for the 01/03/2012 release ? | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | in nemo or in mer? | 14:06 |
| Sage__ | Stskeeps: should everything under %{_mandir} and %{_infodir} go to -docs package? | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | ideally, or at least marked as %doc | 14:11 |
| Sage__ | and all %doc also to -docs? | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 14:13 |
| Sage__ | we should make a guideline for this | 14:13 |
| Sage__ | %doc AUTHORS COPYING NEWS README THANKS TODO | 14:13 |
| Sage__ | what should go where from those for example | 14:13 |
| Stskeeps | COPYING is a bit of a special case.. | 14:14 |
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| Sage__ | but rest to -docs? | 14:23 |
| Sage__ | from that list that is | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps, yeah | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | sorry, bbl | 14:23 |
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| Sage__ | Stskeeps: normal http://pastie.org/3526241 ? | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:34 |
| Sage__ | ok | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | it just tries to get as much debug source as is possible to aid debugigng | 14:35 |
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| Sage__ | ok | 14:38 |
| Sage__ | where mtools and parted are currently located in mer git? | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | not sure it's there | 14:39 |
| Sage__ | ok, hmmp... where did nemo image get those then | 14:39 |
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| Stskeeps | well, they're in tools | 14:41 |
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| Sage__ | oh, bugus output from my part | 14:44 |
| * Sage__ goes to fix wget and screen to nemo tools. | 14:44 | |
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| Macer | https://github.com/rails/rails/commit/b83965785db1eec019edf1fc272b1aa393e6dc57 | 14:47 |
| Macer | lol! | 14:47 |
| Macer | opensource ftw | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | there's kittens in that thread | 14:48 |
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| Macer | still pretty funny | 14:52 |
| Macer | that thread right there is everything that is wrong with an open community | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | did you ever read youtube comments.. | 14:54 |
| Macer | youtube is an open community | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | either way, not terribly relevant here, we don't have kittens, at the moment | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:54 |
| Macer | real work and projects get done in closed environment | 14:55 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: back yet? | 14:55 |
| lbt | phone | 14:56 |
| Stskeeps | k | 14:56 |
| Macer | most real open src projects that are worth anything were done in strict private groups who eventually released code... with a few easter eggs from joe coder | 14:56 |
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| Stskeeps | Macer: you're being a bit insulting at the moment, do me a favour and take it outside here | 14:57 |
| Stskeeps | and having a lot of misconceptions | 14:57 |
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| Macer | :-) didnt mean to be i am just looking a lot of projects and most good ones usually came from large companies and edus... i think the linux kernel might be a rare exception... but even linus has his way about strict organization | 14:59 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: i think the ratio of suck projects is equally high in open source and closed source | 14:59 |
| Stskeeps | in closed source you just rarely hear about them | 15:00 |
| Macer | fair point | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | it -always- helps to be paid, no doubt about that, but just because a coder is paid doesn't mean he won't deliver shit | 15:00 |
| iekku | :) | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | and because he isn't paid doesn't mean he'll always deliver gold, either | 15:01 |
| Macer | but then again.. not hearing about them is part of the structure. open source gets a fork of suck.. closed gets a fired developer | 15:01 |
| Stskeeps | you'd be surprised how much it takes to fire a developer in a organization at times | 15:01 |
| Stskeeps | i recommend you read thedailywtf at times | 15:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:01 |
| Macer | lol | 15:01 |
| Macer | india fires developers all the time.... india: the developers china | 15:02 |
| Stskeeps | what does matter for all projects, closed or open, is that unless you have good structure, QA/testing and sane working methods, you'll end up with a bad project | 15:03 |
| Macer | :-) remember you said that | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | i don't run weekly bug triages for fun | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:05 |
| Macer | and you also dont give everybody a merproject.org shell ;-) | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | that too | 15:06 |
| Macer | open is closed cells... seems the idea is broken somewhere | 15:07 |
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| Stskeeps | you can't do a totally open project, it's practically impossible | 15:07 |
| Macer | i agree | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | i mean, i'd love to document that i wrote a piece of code while on the can, but it's not really practical | 15:08 |
| Macer | lol! | 15:08 |
| Macer | i should do a research paper on it | 15:08 |
| Macer | it would make for an easy dissertation | 15:09 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: you will forever be known to me as carsten "some of my best work comes during bowel movements" munk | 15:09 |
| Macer | you think the story about einstien on the train was the real story? ;-) | 15:10 |
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| slaine | It's the rush of blood to the head during the difficult moments that give the most benefits | 15:10 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: FYI I got a Hetzner notice about maintenance powedown at 3am | 15:42 |
| phaeron1 | good time to upgrade ? | 15:42 |
| phaeron1 | or did we do that already | 15:42 |
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| lbt | phaeron1: upgrade ... the OS? | 15:43 |
| phaeron1 | obs | 15:43 |
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| lbt | I think that's mer obs | 15:43 |
| phaeron | ok | 15:43 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: FYI the outage is until ~6;30 and affects phost1 (many of our VMs) so you may notice it in the morning. I may run a couple of reboots of phost1 tonight | 16:07 |
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| lbt | post office ... bbiab | 16:16 |
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| timoph | wtf | 18:34 |
| N900_rus | ? | 18:34 |
| timoph | oh. sorry wrong channel :) | 18:34 |
| N900_rus | ) | 18:35 |
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| timoph | omnomnom | 18:37 |
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| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2837572/VisionMobile_Cross-Platform_Developer_Tools_2012.pdf | 18:46 |
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| Stskeeps | don't :quit the wrong screen session | 18:54 |
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| dm8tbr | btw: now that the tizen stuff is starting to slowly creep out, how much does it share with Mer? I know no Qt, but underlying things? ofono? dbus? pulseaudio? etc. | 19:57 |
| dm8tbr | anyone taken a look recently? Stskeeps maybe? | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: connman, pa, dbus at least | 19:58 |
| dm8tbr | *nod* about what I expected | 19:59 |
| Stskeeps | ofono is a bit of an unknown | 19:59 |
| dm8tbr | right, the emulator doesn't need that? | 20:00 |
| N900_rus | :) | 20:00 |
| N900_rus | By the way) Headlines language rather badly translated | 20:01 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, hardfp Pi, https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware | 20:04 |
| N900_rus | Can esle you want to find a good word for ruska washed away ... Since there are errors in the nemo ruska language .. | 20:04 |
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| Eren | oh dm8tbr is here, I hope he's not ignoring me :P | 20:18 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: interesting | 20:25 |
| dm8tbr | Eren: huh? | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: i'm not sure https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/hardfp/opt/vc/include/interface/vmcs_host is supposed to be there :) | 20:27 |
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| vgrade | I guess you already grabbed | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | what do you count me for.. ;) | 20:28 |
| vgrade | :), have apache liscense | 20:28 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, interesting | 20:28 |
| Stskeeps | wifi hdmi, scary | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | probably not for the r-pi | 20:29 |
| vgrade | oh , the holy grail for wives | 20:29 |
| vgrade | no wires | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | i've surprisingily married one who accepts cables, but along walls in trays(?) | 20:30 |
| Eren | dm8tbr: tried to contact a few times before, I was joking | 20:31 |
| Eren | dm8tbr: de ta1aet btw | 20:31 |
| Eren | nice to see a ham here | 20:31 |
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| dm8tbr | oink | 20:32 |
| N900_rus | хех | 20:33 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: I'm preparing to try a reboot of phost1... it may actually go smoothly ... it may not :) | 20:53 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 20:55 |
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| N900_rus | Stskeeps> | 20:57 |
| N900_rus | After all, you develop a system nemo? | 20:58 |
| lbt | here goes.... | 20:59 |
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| lbt | vm suspension looking good | 21:00 |
| lbt | o/ web | 21:00 |
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| lbt | all suspended... rebooting | 21:05 |
| N900_rus | ) | 21:06 |
| lbt | phost is back up | 21:08 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: have a poke around - see if all seems well | 21:14 |
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| Eren | good nite all | 21:26 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: vpn/dns lookup on monster seems unwell | 21:40 |
| lbt | OK - I found 1 problem with non-vpn ssh ... think I know what's up there | 21:41 |
| lbt | uhuh /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is 0 | 21:41 |
| lbt | added to /etc/sysctl,conf | 21:43 |
| Stskeeps | bbl sleep | 21:43 |
| lbt | OK | 21:43 |
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| lbt | I'll 'at' a shutdown at 2:45am | 21:43 |
| lbt | it should be up when you get up | 21:43 |
| Stskeeps | a shutdown of phost1 you mean | 21:44 |
| Stskeeps | and you're sure you can power on remotely? | 21:45 |
| Stskeeps | and not just reset | 21:45 |
| lbt | it's what the instructions say to do | 21:46 |
| lbt | they're powering off the racks | 21:46 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 21:46 |
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| lbt | did you check to make sure you didn't get an email | 21:47 |
| lbt | spam folders etc | 21:47 |
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| Stskeeps | nothing therr | 21:48 |
| lbt | ach ... never mind ... it's in 3 weeks ... | 21:48 |
| lbt | here's the email subject : WICHTIGE KUNDENINFORMATION: Stromabschaltung Ihres Servers (29. MXXrz 2012) / IMPORTANT CLIENT INFORMATION: Power suspension of your server (29th March 2012) | 21:48 |
| Stskeeps | well at least they warn in advance | 21:49 |
| lbt | except it's so long the last bit is hidden on my view | 21:49 |
| lbt | and the date's not mentioned in the body text | 21:49 |
| lbt | well, we got a reboot test out of it :) | 21:50 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/3529155 FWIW | 21:50 |
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| Oliver_ | hi | 21:51 |
| Oliver_ | anyone responsible for mer around? | 21:51 |
| lbt | Oliver_: yep | 21:51 |
| lbt | how can I help ? | 21:51 |
| Oliver_ | please pm me ;) | 21:52 |
| Oliver_ | im not able to start pm conversations using the webirc | 21:52 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: I think the ipv4_fwd fixed it - vpn and dns seems OK now | 21:56 |
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| rlinfati | Hi. | 23:09 |
| rlinfati | In mer-sdk-i486-chroot-0.20120209.1.ks is a typo "chmmod" ; its chmod | 23:10 |
| rlinfati | lbt, i found a type s/chmmod/chmod/g mer-sdk-i486-chroot-0.20120209.1.ks | 23:13 |
| rlinfati | bye | 23:13 |
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| lbt | thanks.... | 23:14 |
| lbt | pushed fix | 23:18 |
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| marcus | greetings! | 23:40 |
| marcus | i recently hit on the merproject page and started reading | 23:41 |
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| marcus | now i'm bit confused, maybe you guys can give me some insight | 23:41 |
| marcus | whats the difference between mer and tizen? | 23:41 |
| marcus | about both projects I read that they focus on mobile platforms and provide html5 for app development | 23:43 |
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| wmarone_ | tizen isn't really well defined just yet | 23:48 |
| wmarone_ | mer is essentially a standardized platform upon which you can build pretty much anything | 23:49 |
| wmarone_ | tizen should be the same, but I suspect it'll be much heavier weight and do things Mer doesn't | 23:49 |
| wmarone_ | mostly in the way of providing a UI, which Mer leaves up to the OEM | 23:49 |
| marcus | i see. A (provocative) question: Since mer and tizen seems pretty similar, why dont you join the efforts? what do you want to dodifferently? | 23:52 |
| wmarone_ | Mer is a fork from MeeGo, and as a result inherits a lot of the infrastructure | 23:55 |
| wmarone_ | it also continues some of the design decisions, including focusing on the use of Qt as the primary toolkit | 23:56 |
| wmarone_ | Tizen is currently taking place entirely behind closed doors, so no one outside Samsung and Intel could really be a part of it even if they wanted to | 23:56 |
| wmarone_ | Also, Mer is completely open and utilizes an open governance model. Governance of Tizen, as well, is unkown but likely not to be nearly as open. | 23:57 |
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