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| Siva | while building Mer:Trunk:Base at local obs system from /srv/obs/log/rep_server.log it showing worker state as idle (2011-10-19 18:59:35 [4284]: GET /worker?state=idle&arch=i686&port=41120&workerid=linux-8rlv/1) | 05:35 |
| Stskeeps | might happen at times, it's not all parrallel | 05:36 |
| Siva | ok | 05:36 |
| Siva | my worry is since from yesterday there is no change of build status of packages(bloked is 296 and finished is 6) | 05:37 |
| Siva | almost 24hr is over | 05:37 |
| Stskeeps | the number ought to change | 05:38 |
| Siva | rep_server.log and src_server.log is keep on updating every minute and there is no errors in logs( may be I should have to wait for 3 or 4 days to complete build) | 05:40 |
| Stskeeps | probably, but you have an old snapshot that takes longer to build in general | 05:41 |
| Siva | ok,what is the latest one for mer or meego which could be completed faster.Because i am first time setting up obs and i want to continue build system further | 05:42 |
| Stskeeps | http://monster.tspre.org/~merreleases/ - README.txt is important | 05:43 |
| Siva | ok | 05:43 |
| Stskeeps | also make damn sure your BSConfig.pm $obsname isn't set to $hostname | 05:46 |
| Siva | yes it was set $obsname=localhost (localhost is systemip) | 05:49 |
| Siva | what to assign for it it | 05:50 |
| Stskeeps | just some unique name of your OBS | 05:51 |
| Siva | ok | 05:51 |
| Jucato | whoa ... | 05:51 |
| Jucato | I just realized we had an advent vega just sitting at home ... | 05:51 |
| Stskeeps | cool, mer target ;) | 05:52 |
| Jucato | yeah. unfortunately ... it's not all ironed out ... it's technically/legally property of mom's office | 05:53 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 05:53 |
| Jucato | and it's leagues below an ExoPC ... | 05:53 |
| Jucato | but since I can't get the latter ... | 05:54 |
| * Jucato rubs chin cunningly ... and thinks of coffee | 05:54 | |
| Siva | stskeeps : one more issue i am facing in my localhost obs is , http://$hostname:82/ (repository) giving error 404 - Not Found, will it affect building process? | 05:57 |
| Jucato | lol just my luck. apparently they can't even buy it (government shit and all that) | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | Siva: i think it first makes it when there's a first build done | 05:58 |
| * Stskeeps kicks off another release of mer | 06:00 | |
| Siva | ok, iwill try | 06:00 |
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| Sage_ | morning | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | morn Sage_ | 06:11 |
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| cxl000 | Stskeeps: tried trimslice with -opengl. Works with X11 depth 16 but not 24. Seems to be an issue with QT finding matching EGL config and X visual | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 06:37 |
| cxl000 | qtbug-9444 has some analysis | 06:39 |
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| Mordae | Morning. | 06:44 |
| Stskeeps | morn Mordae | 06:44 |
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| slaine | Stskeeps: How are the different dates handled in the repo's | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: ie, the release numbers? | 07:16 |
| slaine | I kicked off the rsync again this morning to make sure that I had everything and now it's downloading everything all over again for todays date | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: ah.. i'm actually writing makefile stuff to make that a lot less heavy, so it only rsyncs the latest | 07:16 |
| slaine | How is it mapped atm ? | 07:17 |
| slaine | CAn I stop the rsync and proceed to the next step, seeing as it already completed an rsync yesterday | 07:17 |
| Stskeeps | fetchlatestrepo: rsync -aHx --verbose rsync://monster.tspre.org/mer-releases/obs-repos/latest.release obs-repos/latest.release cat obs-repos/latest.release rsync -aHx --verbose rsync://monster.tspre.org/mer-releases/obs-repos/Core:*:`cat obs-repos/latest.release` obs-repos/ | 07:17 |
| Stskeeps | yes, you can, you might have to sort out the :latest links | 07:17 |
| slaine | k | 07:17 |
| Stskeeps | so it points to the previous rsync release | 07:17 |
| Stskeeps | i realized this was a bad method after trying to rsync to the COBS's setup | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | good thing we operate like COBS is a customer of mer :) | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | so we see same issues | 07:18 |
| slaine | nod | 07:18 |
| slaine | I'll point the latest symlinks to 0.20111018.6 | 07:18 |
| harbaum | why? is 20111020.1 broken? | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: nah, because he had a partial rsync | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | nothing wrong with 20.1 | 07:23 |
| harbaum | k | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: we're just exploring how it works when we deliver mer updates to a customer and well, current method sucks a bit ;) | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | (too much data to dl) | 07:24 |
| slaine | Yup | 07:25 |
| harbaum | your current way of distribution works fine fr me | 07:25 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but when you manage your own obs is the scenario here | 07:25 |
| Stskeeps | i do the setup for COBS, which you don't se | 07:25 |
| Stskeeps | e | 07:25 |
| harbaum | :-) thanks | 07:25 |
| slaine | I'm testing the company scenario, of having an internal OBS based off mer | 07:25 |
| slaine | Hope to have a guide out shortly | 07:26 |
| harbaum | BTW: Latest image of yesertday: http://bug10738.openaos.org/images/beagleboard/ | 07:26 |
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| Stskeeps | cool | 07:27 |
| harbaum | Seems pretty stable | 07:28 |
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| slaine | Stskeeps: hmmm, not finding the source directory | 07:43 |
| slaine | where's it located ? | 07:43 |
| slaine | or rather where should it be located | 07:43 |
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| X-Fade | Stskeeps: FYI I see axfr from .10 and .11. | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | X-Fade: yeah, i'm a little unsure why nameserver doesn't pick it up | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: define source directory | 07:48 |
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| X-Fade | Stskeeps: Let me update the serial and see if it likes that more. | 07:48 |
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| slaine | Stskeeps trying to test if fakeobs is up correctly, was wondering what that url was | 07:50 |
| slaine | http://<fakeobs>:8001/public/source ? | 07:51 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: http://fakeobshost:8001/public/source/Core:i586/acl | 07:51 |
| slaine | ta | 07:51 |
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| slaine | cool, it's up | 07:52 |
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| Sage_ | stefanopi: when ever you merge the webkit, qt-mobility to the Mer Core and it is available through fake let me know so I can cut some packages out | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: now | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:59 |
| Sage_ | grr :D | 07:59 |
| slaine | Hmm | 07:59 |
| Sage_ | what packages went in? :) | 07:59 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: and is it available on armv7l, armv7hl and i586? | 08:00 |
| slaine | After adding a project pointing to the fakeobs, I'd expect to see it listed when I do 'osc ls' | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: yes, and i486 too | 08:00 |
| slaine | But I'm getting errors | 08:00 |
| slaine | I have <remouteurl>http://fakeobshost:8001/public</remoteurl> | 08:00 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: package list of the newly added packages please | 08:00 |
| slaine | and I've pointed .oscrc at the correct url | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: http://monster.tspre.org:8080/#patch,sidebyside,48,1,packages.xml | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | err | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: http://monster.tspre.org:8080/#patch,sidebyside,48,1,packages.xml | 08:01 |
| Sage_ | once more? :) | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: osc ls fakeobs:Core:i586 works? | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: http://monster.tspre.org:8080/#patch,sidebyside,48,1,packages.xml | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:01 |
| Sage_ | :) | 08:01 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: nope | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: hmm | 08:03 |
| slaine | I must have the paths wrong | 08:03 |
| slaine | getting 404 | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | curl http://your-fake-obs-host:8001/public/source/Core:i586 works or not? | 08:03 |
| slaine | yeah, that works | 08:04 |
| slaine | it's something to do with the /public bit | 08:04 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: show me your osc meta prj fakeobs | 08:05 |
| slaine | hang on, I've nuked the .oscrc and I'll recreate it | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:05 |
| slaine | I have http://mervm.labs.lincor.com:8001/public as the remote url, I've put that also in the .oscrc | 08:07 |
| slaine | osc ls should list fakeobs project | 08:08 |
| slaine | but I get a 404 and can see from the fakeobs that its just looking for /source | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | are you by any chance trying to use osc to connect to the fakeobs? | 08:09 |
| slaine | http://pastebin.com/eSn3AkE8 | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | looks correct | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | and your osc command? | 08:10 |
| slaine | osc ls | 08:10 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: btw, ok if old changelog entires are removed? | 08:10 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: in which case? | 08:11 |
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| Stskeeps | slaine: try osc -A http://your.obs:81 ls | 08:11 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: e.g., https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=PackageKit.changes&package=PackageKit&project=home%3Asage%3AMer%3AMW%3AShared&srcmd5=c27255aa04d52fea17da44932dcb12dc | 08:11 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: ah, that could be it | 08:11 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: so do we need all of those or will just let say last 5 be enough? | 08:11 |
| slaine | I should have oscrc pointing to the local obs not the fake obs | 08:12 |
| slaine | d'oh | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: fakeobs doesn't support clients, just yet ;) | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: i guess we don't strictly need them, except that it's good to see who contributed | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: ie, credit where credit is due, potentially also a copyright thing.. | 08:12 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: yeah, that was it | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: ok | 08:13 |
| slaine | adjust document accordingly | 08:13 |
| Sage_ | fair enough. However e.g., in meego.com they removed a lot of old .changelog entries | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: yeah, okay | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: sometimes it helps to explain mysterious patches so | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: if it's broken changelogs, either fix or remove them | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | (i'm guessing BOSS is picking up a lot of stuff) | 08:15 |
| Sage_ | it is :) | 08:15 |
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| Stskeeps | slaine: i've improved procedure a bit, so instead of rsync manually, you can just 'make update' to catch latest ('make' needed first) | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | this will signal changes in repositories too to the connected OBS | 08:17 |
| slaine | I'll revisit that part later once I've gotten obs up and running | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 08:18 |
| harbaum | Oh, wowo, cobs is giving me strange messages like kernel panic and now "Warning: cross compile not possible due to missing static binaries" | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: show me the url please | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | i just updated snapshot so :) | 08:26 |
| harbaum | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=beagle-configs&project=home%3Aharbaum&repository=Mer_Core_armv7l | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, X-Fade: pubworker07 has missing qemu? | 08:27 |
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| Stskeeps | X-Fade: serial update seems to have done the trick, they now answer for wiki.merproject.org | 08:34 |
| X-Fade | Stskeeps: Cool. | 08:34 |
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| Stskeeps | (ns1.gratisdns.dk to ns5) | 08:35 |
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| Stskeeps | morn smoku | 08:39 |
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| smoku | hi Stskeeps | 08:52 |
| harbaum | How's audio supposed to work in mer? No also utils? | 08:53 |
| harbaum | s/also/alsa/ | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: sounds like a good candidate for inclusion : | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | P | 08:55 |
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| Stskeeps | what does alsa-utils specifically do? | 08:56 |
| harbaum | e.g. set and restore mixer settings | 08:56 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:56 |
| harbaum | i use it to bring the beagle autio into a sane initial state | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | i'll add that to next release | 08:57 |
| harbaum | and if you are at it: xorg-x11-utils-xinput would also be handy, wouldn't it? | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | that can probably go in tools repo instead of core | 08:58 |
| harbaum | yep | 08:58 |
| harbaum | the tools repo is where? | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | nowhere currently, guess we should set up a central obs project on cobs somewhere | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | for now you can put it in your hardware adaptation i guess | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | (grab src.rpm from meego, rpm2cpio *.rpm | cpio -idv and add it to obs with osc | 09:04 |
| slaine | Ok, full link pac in progress, approx 10am my time | 09:07 |
| slaine | it'll probably finish tomorrow night ;) | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | k | 09:07 |
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| lbt | aren't alsa-utils a UX layer - where UX=console? | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: not restoring mixer settings, it is a hook hardware adaptations need in core | 09:14 |
| lbt | or maybe Tools is more sensible | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so it can't be in tools only if it is needed to run a device | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | (imho) | 09:14 |
| slaine | wouldn't a more standard name be Utils ? | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | also possible | 09:15 |
| slaine | you don't see many packages with -tools in their names, it's usually -utils. And those are the types of packages we're talking about grouping together | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ns1.gratisdns.dk ns2.gratisdns.dk ns3.gratisdns.dk now answers authoratively for merproject.org | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: with AXFR working from ns.formeego.org | 09:16 |
| lbt | that's not what's in it on my Debian box - all mixers, midi players, etc | 09:16 |
| lbt | OK DNS ... | 09:17 |
| lbt | I asked if merproject.com could be NS for merproject.or | 09:17 |
| lbt | g | 09:17 |
| lbt | since that's another name for ns.formeego.org | 09:17 |
| lbt | I haven't set it yet | 09:18 |
| lbt | but it seems the lowest risk so far | 09:18 |
| lbt | once that is done we can add those NS in | 09:18 |
| lbt | my proposal is we do merproject.com first with 1&1 as secondary | 09:19 |
| lbt | then when that works we do merproject.com and ns1.gratisdns.dk ns2.gratisdns.dk ns3.gratisdns.dk | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | i think you have it upside down, i'd consider that higher risk :) my proposal is that we set 'my' nameservers and then attempt to add ns.formeego.org or merproject.com eventually | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | as that will make sure it won't break stuff | 09:19 |
| lbt | we know for a fact that last time they added a Nameserver that was not 1&1 registrar it broke | 09:20 |
| lbt | we know that ns1.gratisdns.dk is not registrar'ed by 1&1 | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | that wasn't the problem | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | the problem was that ns.formeego.org wasn't registered and they attempted to register it | 09:20 |
| lbt | I can show you the emails where they say it is | 09:20 |
| lbt | and I know they are probably wrong | 09:21 |
| lbt | but hey ... | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | gladly, my source is one of your emails | 09:21 |
| lbt | does it need to be registered... or does it need to be registered for the specific domain ? | 09:21 |
| lbt | if the former you're OK | 09:22 |
| lbt | if the latter then we have another 10 day saga | 09:22 |
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| Stskeeps | it just needs to be registered - basically, what they attempted was to register a nameserver that they had no ability to do so | 09:22 |
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| Stskeeps | my set is known working and registered | 09:22 |
| lbt | OK - if you know that then that's fine | 09:22 |
| lbt | shall I do it? | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | i will take the blame if the switch to ns1.gratisdns.dk ns2.gratisdns.dk ns3.gratisdns.dk fails | 09:23 |
| lbt | sure - which first? mer-project or merproject | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | merproject | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | that one is set up | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | haven't set up mer-project | 09:24 |
| harbaum | alsa-utils wants xmlto which in turn wants dpcbook-xsl .... argh .... | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: see if you can dump that dependancy | 09:25 |
| harbaum | yeah | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: so, in http://www.flickr.com/photos/96141280@N00/6257180574/in/photostream/lightbox/ - my name server, primary nameserver = ns1.gratisdns.dk , 1 secondary: ns2.gratisdns.dk, 2. secondary, ns3.gratisdns.dk - 3rd field we can leave open for ns.formeego.org / merproject.com experimet | 09:27 |
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| lbt | the reason I was mentioning it is that alsa-utils on debian has: http://pastie.org/2728783 | 09:28 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: did it already | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: think alsactl is the useful one, mixers etc is more like added value | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: we can probably put those out in own sub-package | 09:29 |
| harbaum | imho it's fine in tools. actually not all plattforms will have audio at all and you can bring up any plattform without audio | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | alsactl is fairly important for bootup, i think | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | er, bringup | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | so that's my reasoning | 09:30 |
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| faenil | good morning people :) | 09:50 |
| Jucato | Stskeeps: have you heard from vgrade and company if the Advent Vega is a good dev device (for Mer and Plasma Active)? | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | Jucato: did you seethe video? | 09:54 |
| Jucato | it's the reason I got excited when I realized what we had here at home :D | 09:55 |
| * Jucato patiently waits for vgrade to wake up ... | 09:55 | |
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| harbaum | pubworker07 ist still broken ... | 10:18 |
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| vgrade-scotland | Morning | 10:41 |
| Stskeeps | morn vgrade | 10:41 |
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| vgrade-scotland | On my hols for a couple of days | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: http://wiki.merproject.org | 10:42 |
| lbt | :P | 10:43 |
| vgrade-scotland | Was there some questions about vega | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade-scotland: Jucato had some | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: that was quick, though | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i had assumed it'd take ~48 hours | 10:44 |
| Jucato | vgrade-scotland: whoa! are you wearing a kilt? :) | 10:44 |
| vgrade-scotland | Jucato hi | 10:44 |
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| Jucato | actually I posted this on another channel but: <Jucato> vgrade: ping. what were the things you had to do to get Active running on the Advent Vega? did you have to modify the installed (Android) system in there? | 10:44 |
| Jucato | long story short: we have one at home, but it's technically government property ;) | 10:45 |
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| Jucato | (with a totally crappy custom Android version that makes the iOS look like gold) | 10:45 |
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| vgrade-scotland | We replace the android boot.img with our own kernel and init rd. This points to met/active root F's on microsd card. | 10:47 |
| Jucato | but I might be able to get my own, but if I can be sure of its long term viability as a Mer/Plasma development device (like the ExoPC) :P | 10:47 |
| Jucato | ah I see. so I guess fooling around with this particular unit is a "no" then. :) | 10:47 |
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| Jucato | vgrade-scotland: so, would you recommend it as an ok device? | 10:49 |
| vgrade-scotland | We are aiming to dual boot vegacomb and plasma. | 10:49 |
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| vgrade-scotland | Its sip but I think it could be used for plasma app Dev. We have a todo list on the wiki | 10:51 |
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| vgrade-scotland | It is | 10:51 |
| vgrade-scotland | Wip | 10:52 |
| vgrade-scotland | The android boot.img can be reinstated easily | 10:53 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: so who can manage mailing lists? | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | smoku had one set up already for us | 10:54 |
| Jucato | vgrade-scotland: really? I'm not used to these things except on the n900 (which was dead easy with u-boot). and the Galaxy Tab is anything but ... are there instructions? if I'm lucky enough, I might be able to get my hands on my own Vega really soon. :) | 10:55 |
| lbt | ok - so we need one for boss noise | 10:55 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: got access to add stuff to zonefile yet? | 10:55 |
| lbt | will do | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: lists IN MX 10 xkh0.infr.xiaoka.com. | 10:57 |
| * lbt ponders if bz is too heavy for tracking these details | 10:58 | |
| Stskeeps | well, we should have a infrastructure component at least | 10:58 |
| lbt | is iekku on it yet? | 10:58 |
| vgrade-scotland | Jucato the sdcard image is up. I'll put up the boot.img and some instructions soon | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: she's at work but she said she wanted to discuss it later today i think | 10:59 |
| Jucato | vgrade-scotland: great! thanks :) | 10:59 |
| lbt | OK | 10:59 |
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| iekku | :nod: | 11:00 |
| iekku | bit annoying, but can't really do mer stuff when @ office | 11:00 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:00 |
| Stskeeps | food on table first, open source second | 11:01 |
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| iekku | need to get wife to better payed job | 11:04 |
| iekku | :P | 11:04 |
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| araujo | morning | 11:17 |
| araujo | Stskeeps, iekku o/ | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | morn araujo | 11:18 |
| iekku | good morning araujo | 11:20 |
| araujo | :) | 11:20 |
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| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Stskeeps | 11:24 | |
| *** Stskeeps changes topic to "Mer is back! - http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2011-October/484215.html - http://www.merproject.org | Wiki: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/ | Contribution to packages: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution | Building against Mer in COBS: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Building_against_Mer_in_COBS | This channel is logged, http://mer.bfst.de/logs" | 11:24 | |
| harbaum | Hmmm ... udevd is constantly eating cpu and memory on the beagle .... | 11:24 |
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| Stskeeps | harbaum: interesting, udevadm monitor ? | 11:25 |
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| harbaum | http://pastie.org/2729228 | 11:26 |
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| harbaum | why do we have these anyway? | 11:27 |
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| Stskeeps | that looks a bit messed up - cat /proc/mdstat ? | 11:28 |
| harbaum | Personalities : | 11:28 |
| harbaum | unused devices: <none> | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | curious | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | what on earth enters that device then | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Astskeeps%3Amer%3Ahw%3An950 <- fairly good | 11:30 |
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| harbaum | hmm, it's not mtdbock that's casing the udev events. i have disabled mtdblock support and the events still happen. | 12:13 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: yes seems nice | 12:14 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: trying to get project ready for SR's | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: ok | 12:14 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=meegotouch-controlpanel&project=Project%3AMTF&repository=CE_UX_MTF_armv7hl | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: that's new.. | 12:16 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: qemu was updated to 0.15, maybe cause? | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | possibly | 12:17 |
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| Sage_ | lbt, X-Fade: ^ qemu update might have broken that, but not entirely sure. | 12:21 |
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| lbt | mmm | 12:22 |
| lbt | no response | 12:22 |
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| Sage_ | hmmp.... cobs unreachable again | 12:23 |
| Sage_ | about the same time than yesterday? | 12:23 |
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| lbt | back | 12:30 |
| lbt | Sage_: ah, yes, you have the wrong opcode in 0x60094f80 | 12:31 |
| Sage_ | lbt: so easy fix? | 12:32 |
| lbt | try 0x4473 | 12:32 |
| lbt | let me know | 12:33 |
| Sage_ | ... | 12:33 |
| Sage_ | I have no idea what you mean with that. | 12:33 |
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| lbt | hehe ... complete lack of humour these Finns | 12:34 |
| gabrbedd | lbt: I thought the official meego opcode was 0xDEADBAAD | 12:34 |
| lbt | :D | 12:34 |
| * Sage_ doesn't have much humor left atm. | 12:35 | |
| lbt | sorry Sage_ | 12:35 |
| lbt | working on your repos though | 12:35 |
| * gabrbedd hugs Sage_ | 12:35 | |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: i'm planning on project-wide qemu eventually, scriptripper did some work in that direction | 12:37 |
| lbt | Sage_: sh: dpkg-architecture: command not found in that package btw | 12:37 |
| Sage_ | lbt: yes, but that doesn't matter it goes through still. | 12:38 |
| Sage_ | just bad code in some script | 12:38 |
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| Sage_ | gabrbedd: thx :) | 12:42 |
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| * merlin1991 forgot the name of the brave soul who tried to build his own obs again | 12:42 | |
| Stskeeps | slaine, for instance | 12:43 |
| slaine | it's working | 12:44 |
| slaine | I've a how to written | 12:44 |
| slaine | I'll put it up once a full i586 build completes | 12:44 |
| slaine | right, I'm back to another meeting for a few hours | 12:44 |
| slaine | wish me lucj | 12:44 |
| slaine | 12:44 | |
| slaine | luck even | 12:45 |
| * merlin1991 wishes slaine luck, hopes to remember that nick finally and waits for the howto | 12:45 | |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: were you able to cut the newt and mkinitrd deps from n900 kernel btw? | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | newt is easy | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | mkinitrd we need to consider if we'll break stuff with it | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | as the .spec uses it | 13:20 |
| Sage_ | new is easy means what? | 13:20 |
| Sage_ | just cut it out? | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | i wouldn't totally be against a redesign of kernel packaging | 13:22 |
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| lbt | \o/ | 13:22 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: it is awfull :) | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | always has bee | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | n | 13:23 |
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| * gabrbedd likes it a mite better than debian kernel packaging. | 13:34 | |
| gabrbedd | (not talking about DEB... but the policies/procedures) | 13:34 |
| * OdyX chuckles. | 13:37 | |
| Stskeeps | Paimen: you spoke at some point about plexiglass used as whiteboard, could you point me in the right direction on what exactly that means? webpage is fine :) | 13:37 |
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| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: watch random war movie from 80s or later and you'll have those command centers with glass and scribbles all over. ;) | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | hmm :P | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | good point, i should watch wargames again.. | 13:43 |
| dm8tbr | yeah, that one prolly had it too | 13:43 |
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| iekku | uuh, busy evening coming | 13:58 |
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| lbt | iekku: nm .. ping when you can... | 14:38 |
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| iekku | lbt, ok :D | 14:45 |
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| Stskeeps | morning Alison_Chaiken | 16:17 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Huomenta, Stskeeps. Hope all is well. I've been playing with EGL and GLES and having fun. | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, geek fun is always good :) | 16:17 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Last night I told myself I would go to bed at 10 PM for sure, but at about 10 PM I finally figured out what was wrong with my Makefile . . . | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | and yeah, things are fine - mer hardware adaptations are starting to pop up, Plasma Active on tegra2/advent vega, beagleboard, ideapad s10-3t, etc | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | (and of course n900) | 16:19 |
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| Jaffa | Have folks seen http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Qt_5_on_Raspberry_Pi - it seems Taku will be at qt-project.org and be a "minimum Linux dependencies to boot Qt 5" with "Qt Creator integration" | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, saw | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | we're going for a little bigger stack | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | i don't consider it a competitor, more like someone to collaborate with | 17:40 |
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| Stskeeps | after all, people just want tools to make their work easier, Mer's one, Taku's one | 17:45 |
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| Stskeeps | 'lo Mordae | 17:49 |
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| * ieatlint would be one of the people working on taku | 18:21 | |
| Stskeeps | ah, cool - what is it based on? yocto/OE? | 18:22 |
| ieatlint | its own thing | 18:22 |
| ieatlint | i'm not the decision maker :P | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | think it's a good initiative | 18:23 |
| ieatlint | we'll see | 18:25 |
| ieatlint | the plan is to get it all running well without X via eglfs | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | makes sense | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | i wouldn't mind if someone made a eglfs-compatible libEGL wrapper for raspberry | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | the current api is just a bit crazy for setting up fullscreen egl | 18:26 |
| araujo | mm.. | 18:26 |
| ieatlint | well we're already running eglfs on the board | 18:26 |
| ieatlint | and testing with qmlscene | 18:26 |
| araujo | ieatlint, is Taku specially tailored for Raspberry I guess? | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but with modified eglfs and linking straight against their libs/headers | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | (AFAIK) | 18:27 |
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| ieatlint | yes, to both | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | can eglfs be built out-of-tree? | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | ie, as a qt module | 18:28 |
| ieatlint | and a nice helping of proprietary broadcom binary blobs | 18:28 |
| ieatlint | it's being built as a platform plugin, so it's not inside the qt libs | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | that makes more sense | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | well | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | ideally i would prefer to have that modded eglfs outside what's current qtbase, so we can have a hardware adaptation package for that in mer | 18:29 |
| ieatlint | the modified eglfs plugin won't be merged into qt, but the patch we apply is up in a repo now | 18:30 |
| Stskeeps | instead of building entire qt5 for that specific egl/gles thing | 18:30 |
| Stskeeps | er, qtbase | 18:30 |
| ieatlint | we'll be releasing everything needed to build qt5 and eglfs for the board... but not entirely open, sadly | 18:30 |
| ieatlint | (not open to me even, i don't have any source to all this, just headers and built libs) | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i know | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | i have a copy of the broadcom glesv2 stuff + headers | 18:31 |
| * Stskeeps ponders idly | 18:34 | |
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| Stskeeps | i wouldn't mind wayland on that thing, tbh | 18:34 |
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| Stskeeps | but it's unclear to me if the gles chip has anything else than the overlay control | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | (not that that is bad...) | 18:40 |
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| ieatlint | i've got no clue, i was tasked with getting qt5 cross compiled on the board | 18:42 |
| ieatlint | and then writing a keyboard input driver | 18:42 |
| ieatlint | we're not working on packaging, and looking at whether we can get any mouse support done quickly (eglfs lacks a cursor, so complicated | 18:43 |
| ieatlint | anyway, i'm off to lunch, will be back later | 18:43 |
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| qgil | vgrade1 = vgrade ? | 18:50 |
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| Stskeeps | ieatlint: ah, evdev | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | qgil: yeah, same person but not sure if he's on irc atm - sorry about the misunderstanding on the thread, just had an enlightening talk with ieatlint on the graphics side of things :) | 19:26 |
| qgil | if ieatlint = Jeffrey then good ;) | 19:26 |
| ieatlint | yeah, what i did will be submitted as a merge request into qt5 for the keyboard stuff | 19:27 |
| ieatlint | and yeah, hey Quim... i'm indeed Jeffrey | 19:27 |
| qgil | hi there, a new nick to remember | 19:27 |
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| ieatlint | Stskeeps: i don't think of it's of specific interest/use to what you're doing, but the keyboard plugin i have is at https://qt.gitorious.org/~ieatlint/qt/ieatlints-qtbase/trees/master/src/plugins/generic/linuxinput | 19:28 |
| ieatlint | it's generic linux, will work on any system that has udev | 19:28 |
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| ieatlint | (or without udev if you specify the path to the keyboard) | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | ieatlint: cool | 19:28 |
| * Stskeeps bookmarks | 19:29 | |
| ighea | so... is there a build of the new awesome mer for n810..? =) | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | ighea: there's armv6 rpms and a .ks | 19:29 |
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| qgil | ieatlint: looking forward to see the ICS guys adding themselves to the Team section at http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Qt_5_on_Raspberry_Pi | 19:30 |
| qgil | otherwise it looks like a 100% Nokia initiative when that is far from the reality | 19:30 |
| ieatlint | i'll add myself now, but it's pretty much just me working on this... will poke Roland to add himself as well | 19:32 |
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| ighea | Stskeeps: so now simpleton editions available yet? | 19:32 |
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| Stskeeps | ighea: not yet, let's see how things turn out | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | ighea: before n8x0 is useful we need llvmpipe working properly and tested | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | otherwise it can't make the plunge to qt5 when that time is | 19:34 |
| ighea | Stskeeps: okay, thanks. perhaps I'll just wait for that to happen then. :i | 19:34 |
| * Stskeeps tries to find his old businesscard layouts | 19:35 | |
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| vgrade | qgill, missed the point sorry | 19:47 |
| gabrbedd | ICS means... what? | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | gabrbedd: company | 19:55 |
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| Bostik | hum yes, I need to put a couple of bugreports in against qt5 on arm... | 19:55 |
| gabrbedd | Stskeeps: thanks | 20:00 |
| gabrbedd | ah, I remember them, now. | 20:00 |
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| cxl000 | vgrade plasma starts on the trimslice but lack of mouse and kwin dying are a bit of a problem | 20:14 |
| qgil | gabrbedd: http://www.ics.com/ (wow, a small org with a 3 character domain) | 20:16 |
| qgil | vgrade: it is not a problem as long as now you get it ;) | 20:16 |
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| lbt | smoku: ping | 20:24 |
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| harbaum | llvmpipe? I thought there are SGX drivers for the n8x0. Aren't there? | 20:32 |
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| harbaum | Time to read those old "the N800 has a 3d accelerator" threads ... | 20:39 |
| lbt | iirc they never got redistribution permission | 20:47 |
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| harbaum | ok, done reading. So Stskeeps got the accelerator running, but obviously never solved the problem with the stalling hardware | 20:53 |
| lbt | wow ... fast reader! | 20:54 |
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| smoku | lbt: ? | 21:20 |
| lbt | hey | 21:22 |
| lbt | mailing lists and things | 21:23 |
| lbt | we have the DNS for merproject setup now | 21:23 |
| smoku | so the ML should just work | 21:27 |
| smoku | or... you are asking about the MX record, aren't you? :) | 21:27 |
| smoku | lbt: set it same as lists.xiaoka.com | 21:28 |
| smoku | $ host lists.xiaoka.com | 21:28 |
| smoku | lists.xiaoka.com mail is handled by 10 xkh0.infr.xiaoka.com. | 21:28 |
| lbt | OK so what lists do we have ? | 21:29 |
| smoku | mer-general AFAIR | 21:29 |
| smoku | lemme check | 21:29 |
| lbt | I've not seen this format before | 21:30 |
| smoku | yes. mer-general | 21:30 |
| lbt | is | 21:30 |
| lbt | lists IN MX 10 xkh0.infr.xiaoka.com. | 21:30 |
| lbt | a valid zone file line ? | 21:30 |
| smoku | xkh0:~# cat /var/spool/mlmmj/mer-general/control/listaddress | 21:30 |
| smoku | mer-general@lists.merproject.org | 21:30 |
| smoku | should work | 21:31 |
| lbt | OK - can you add Nemo-commits and Mer-commits | 21:31 |
| lbt | all lowercase | 21:31 |
| smoku | sure | 21:31 |
| lbt | archives? | 21:31 |
| smoku | I already subscribed mail-archive to mer-general | 21:32 |
| smoku | should I do so for -commits? | 21:32 |
| lbt | is that normal practice? | 21:32 |
| smoku | not really | 21:33 |
| smoku | unless you use -commits list for code review | 21:33 |
| lbt | we do | 21:33 |
| lbt | OK - lists appears to be operational now | 21:34 |
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| smoku | so the lists should work too | 21:37 |
| lbt | how do you subscribe? | 21:38 |
| smoku | mer-general+subscribe@lists.merproject.org etc. | 21:38 |
| smoku | just tested - it works | 21:39 |
| lbt | posting policy? | 21:39 |
| smoku | you will get the rest of addresses in welcome message | 21:39 |
| smoku | so far out-of-list posting is allowed | 21:39 |
| lbt | I need to allow the boss bot to post commits | 21:39 |
| smoku | but I can change it | 21:39 |
| pdanek | meego.org isn't going to be updated anymore? everything related to meego is only community effort now? or mainly mer effort? | 21:40 |
| lbt | From: boss_no_reply@build.pub.meego.com needs to be whitelisted | 21:40 |
| lbt | pdanek: you should ask in #meego :) | 21:40 |
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| smoku | lbt: no-mail subscription? | 21:40 |
| lbt | but yeah mainly | 21:40 |
| lbt | no - just sending | 21:40 |
| lbt | whilst it's open it's not a big deal | 21:41 |
| smoku | lbt: ok. I whitelisted boss | 21:42 |
| lbt | ta | 21:42 |
| smoku | so if we decide to close the ML it will still work | 21:42 |
| smoku | the owner of the lists is postmaster@merproject.org | 21:43 |
| lbt | OK | 21:43 |
| smoku | so it would be nice if this alias would point somewhere :) | 21:43 |
| lbt | it should rather... | 21:44 |
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| smoku | mlmmj is pretty versatile, so if we need header or subject mangling, any custom footer etc. I could set it up | 21:44 |
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| smoku | for now it | 21:44 |
| smoku | 's pretty basic | 21:45 |
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| smoku | unobtrusive ;-) | 21:45 |
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| lbt | smoku: https://bugs.pub.meego.com/bugzilla3/enter_bug.cgi?product=Housekeeping | 21:47 |
| lbt | "we need postmaster@merproject.org to point somewhere" | 21:48 |
| lbt | login using meego login | 21:48 |
| smoku | would you like me to create a bug? right? | 21:49 |
| lbt | yes ... I was going for subtle | 21:49 |
| lbt | by, you know, pointing to a bugzilla section and giving you a title :) | 21:50 |
| * lbt makes a note to order a gold brick and a slice of lemon | 21:50 | |
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| smoku | just wanted to make sure ;-) | 21:50 |
| * smoku is new here | 21:51 | |
| * lbt is very grateful for the help on the ml ... really | 21:51 | |
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| smoku | pretty theme for bugzilla | 21:52 |
| smoku | lbt: I've been sysadmin for many years, so if you need any other help just say so | 21:53 |
| lbt | yes please | 21:54 |
| lbt | don't suppose you know about xen and time drift ? | 21:54 |
| smoku | know about - yes. we didn't manage to fix it | 21:55 |
| lbt | hehe | 21:56 |
| smoku | I asked a friend that fought that battle. Maybe he has some new answers. | 21:56 |
| lbt | ah well - we have 50+ VMs and 5 have drift | 21:57 |
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| lbt | all opensuse11.4 phosts | 21:57 |
| lbt | with a mix of squeeze and 11.4 VMs | 21:57 |
| smoku | we had 6 laptops, 2 of them drifting | 21:57 |
| smoku | I was working on http://qubes-os.org/ for some time | 21:58 |
| smoku | which is havily XEN based | 21:58 |
| lbt | ah ... yeah I recall | 21:58 |
| lbt | xen per app iirc | 21:59 |
| smoku | the friend just answered | 21:59 |
| smoku | the current solution is ntpd in every domU ;-) | 21:59 |
| lbt | yeah I do that | 22:00 |
| lbt | still drifts on 4 | 22:00 |
| lbt | 5 | 22:00 |
| lbt | which is really spooky | 22:00 |
| smoku | and there is an tsc_mode option you may try tweaking | 22:00 |
| lbt | .... | 22:00 |
| smoku | (have no idea what that means - just translating) | 22:01 |
| lbt | http://mirror.choon.net/xen/xen-unstable.hg/docs/misc/tscmode.txt | 22:01 |
| dm8tbr | ntp is essentially a software pll. there are failure modes that will break it bad. drift in VMs is one of them | 22:01 |
| lbt | dm8tbr: I've been wondering if they've found an unhappy state with the drift log | 22:02 |
| lbt | and are resonating or similar | 22:02 |
| dm8tbr | I'd suspect it's the timewarps that make ntp go into failsafe or something. It's a bit late for more well founded statements. | 22:03 |
| lbt | yeah ... but smoku thanks for that - another rabbit hole to try | 22:03 |
| dm8tbr | I just had to call security to get me out of the office, because 1 day of 24h access means, well for the calendar day... So I'll be heading off to bed | 22:04 |
| lbt | o/ | 22:04 |
| lbt | sleep very well dm8tbr | 22:04 |
| dm8tbr | tnx | 22:04 |
| dm8tbr | I'll be more talkative for all other issues tomorrow | 22:04 |
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| smoku | lbt: you can always use a sledgehammer and put ntpdate -s to cron | 22:10 |
| lbt | yeah - I proposed that at todays IT meeting ... | 22:11 |
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| vgrade | cxl000, have you seen http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Info/FAQ#How_do_I_get_a_Mouse_Cursor.3F | 22:46 |
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| vgrade | I'm rebasing on KDE:Devel watch this space | 22:47 |
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| cxl000 | vgrade I'll have a look. | 23:14 |
| cxl000 | Have you tried the tegra drivers with X11 at 24 bits. | 23:14 |
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