Thursday, 2011-10-20

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Sivawhile building Mer:Trunk:Base at local obs system from /srv/obs/log/rep_server.log it showing  worker state as idle (2011-10-19 18:59:35 [4284]: GET /worker?state=idle&arch=i686&port=41120&workerid=linux-8rlv/1)05:35
Stskeepsmight happen at times, it's not all parrallel05:36
Sivamy worry is since from yesterday there is no change of build status of packages(bloked is 296 and finished is 6)05:37
Sivaalmost 24hr is over05:37
Stskeepsthe number ought to change05:38
Sivarep_server.log and src_server.log is keep on updating every minute and there is no errors in logs( may be I should  have to wait for 3 or 4 days to complete build)05:40
Stskeepsprobably, but you have an old snapshot that takes longer to build in general05:41
Sivaok,what is the latest one for mer or meego which could be completed faster.Because i am first time setting up obs and i want to continue build system further05:42
Stskeeps - README.txt is important05:43
Stskeepsalso make damn sure your $obsname isn't set to $hostname05:46
Sivayes it was set $obsname=localhost (localhost is systemip)05:49
Sivawhat to assign for it  it05:50
Stskeepsjust some unique name of your OBS05:51
Jucatowhoa ...05:51
JucatoI just realized we had an advent vega just sitting at home ...05:51
Stskeepscool, mer target ;)05:52
Jucatoyeah. unfortunately ... it's not all ironed  out ... it's technically/legally property of mom's office05:53
Jucatoand it's leagues below an ExoPC ...05:53
Jucatobut since I can't get the latter ...05:54
* Jucato rubs chin cunningly ... and thinks of coffee05:54
Sivastskeeps : one more issue i am facing in my localhost obs  is , http://$hostname:82/ (repository) giving error 404 - Not Found, will it affect building process?05:57
Jucatolol just my luck. apparently they can't even buy it (government shit and all that)05:58
StskeepsSiva: i think it first makes it when there's a first build done05:58
* Stskeeps kicks off another release of mer06:00
Sivaok, iwill try06:00
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Stskeepsmorn Sage_06:11
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cxl000Stskeeps: tried trimslice with -opengl. Works with X11 depth 16 but not 24. Seems to be an issue with QT finding matching EGL config and X visual06:37
cxl000qtbug-9444 has some analysis06:39
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slaineStskeeps: How are the different dates handled in the repo's07:15
Stskeepsslaine: ie, the release numbers?07:16
slaineI kicked off the rsync again this morning to make sure that I had everything and now it's downloading everything all over again for todays date07:16
Stskeepsslaine: ah.. i'm actually writing makefile stuff to make that a lot less heavy, so it only rsyncs the latest07:16
slaineHow is it mapped atm ?07:17
slaineCAn I stop the rsync and proceed to the next step, seeing as it already completed an rsync yesterday07:17
Stskeepsfetchlatestrepo: rsync -aHx --verbose rsync:// obs-repos/latest.release cat obs-repos/latest.release rsync -aHx --verbose rsync://*:`cat obs-repos/latest.release` obs-repos/07:17
Stskeepsyes, you can, you might have to sort out the :latest links07:17
Stskeepsso it points to the previous rsync release07:17
Stskeepsi realized this was a bad method after trying to rsync to the COBS's setup07:18
Stskeepsgood thing we operate like COBS is a customer of mer :)07:18
Stskeepsso we see same issues07:18
slaineI'll point the latest symlinks to 0.20111018.607:18
harbaumwhy? is 20111020.1 broken?07:23
Stskeepsharbaum: nah, because he had a partial rsync07:23
Stskeepsnothing wrong with 20.107:23
Stskeepsharbaum: we're just exploring how it works when we deliver mer updates to a customer and well, current method sucks a bit ;)07:24
Stskeeps(too much data to dl)07:24
harbaumyour current way of distribution works fine fr me07:25
Stskeepsyeah, but when you manage your own obs is the scenario here07:25
Stskeepsi do the setup for COBS, which you don't se07:25
harbaum:-) thanks07:25
slaineI'm testing the company scenario, of having an internal OBS based off mer07:25
slaineHope to have a guide out shortly07:26
harbaumBTW: Latest image of yesertday:
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harbaumSeems pretty stable07:28
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slaineStskeeps: hmmm, not finding the source directory07:43
slainewhere's it located ?07:43
slaineor rather where should it be located07:43
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X-FadeStskeeps: FYI I see axfr from .10 and .11.07:47
StskeepsX-Fade: yeah, i'm a little unsure why nameserver doesn't pick it up07:47
Stskeepsslaine: define source directory07:48
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X-FadeStskeeps: Let me update the serial and see if it likes that more.07:48
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slaineStskeeps trying to test if fakeobs is up correctly, was wondering what that url was07:50
slainehttp://<fakeobs>:8001/public/source ?07:51
Stskeepsslaine: http://fakeobshost:8001/public/source/Core:i586/acl07:51
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slainecool, it's up07:52
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Sage_stefanopi: when ever you merge the webkit, qt-mobility to the Mer Core and it is available through fake let me know so I can cut some packages out07:58
StskeepsSage_: now07:59
Sage_grr :D07:59
Sage_what packages went in? :)07:59
Sage_Stskeeps: and is it available on armv7l, armv7hl and i586?08:00
slaineAfter adding a project pointing to the fakeobs, I'd expect to see it listed when I do 'osc ls'08:00
StskeepsSage_: yes, and i486 too08:00
slaineBut I'm getting errors08:00
slaineI have <remouteurl>http://fakeobshost:8001/public</remoteurl>08:00
Sage_Stskeeps: package list of the newly added packages please08:00
slaineand I've pointed .oscrc at the correct url08:01
Sage_once more? :)08:01
Stskeepsslaine: osc ls fakeobs:Core:i586 works?08:01
slaineStskeeps: nope08:02
Stskeepsslaine: hmm08:03
slaineI must have the paths wrong08:03
slainegetting 40408:03
Stskeepscurl http://your-fake-obs-host:8001/public/source/Core:i586 works or not?08:03
slaineyeah, that works08:04
slaineit's something to do with the /public bit08:04
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Stskeepsslaine: show me your osc meta prj fakeobs08:05
slainehang on, I've nuked the .oscrc and I'll recreate it08:05
slaineI have as the remote url, I've put that also in the .oscrc08:07
slaineosc ls should list fakeobs project08:08
slainebut I get a 404 and can see from the fakeobs that its just looking for /source08:08
Stskeepsare you by any chance trying to use osc to connect to the fakeobs?08:09
Stskeepslooks correct08:10
Stskeepsand your osc command?08:10
slaineosc ls08:10
Sage_Stskeeps: btw, ok if old changelog entires are removed?08:10
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StskeepsSage_: in which case?08:11
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Stskeepsslaine: try osc -A http://your.obs:81 ls08:11
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Sage_Stskeeps: e.g.,
slaineStskeeps: ah, that could be it08:11
Sage_Stskeeps: so do we need all of those or will just let say last 5 be enough?08:11
slaineI should have oscrc pointing to the local obs not the fake obs08:12
Stskeepsslaine: fakeobs doesn't support clients, just yet ;)08:12
StskeepsSage_: i guess we don't strictly need them, except that it's good to see who contributed08:12
StskeepsSage_: ie, credit where credit is due, potentially also a copyright thing..08:12
slaineStskeeps: yeah, that was it08:13
Stskeepsslaine: ok08:13
slaineadjust document accordingly08:13
Sage_fair enough. However e.g., in they removed a lot of old .changelog entries08:13
StskeepsSage_: yeah, okay08:13
StskeepsSage_: sometimes it helps to explain mysterious patches so08:14
StskeepsSage_: if it's broken changelogs, either fix or remove them08:14
Stskeeps(i'm guessing BOSS is picking up a lot of stuff)08:15
Sage_it is :)08:15
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Stskeepsslaine: i've improved procedure a bit, so instead of rsync manually, you can just 'make update' to catch latest ('make' needed first)08:17
Stskeepsthis will signal changes in repositories too to the connected OBS08:17
slaineI'll revisit that part later once I've gotten obs up and running08:18
harbaumOh, wowo, cobs is giving me strange messages like kernel panic and now "Warning: cross compile not possible due to missing static binaries"08:26
Stskeepsharbaum: show me the url please08:26
Stskeepsi just updated snapshot so :)08:26
Stskeepslbt, X-Fade: pubworker07 has missing qemu?08:27
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StskeepsX-Fade: serial update seems to have done the trick, they now answer for wiki.merproject.org08:34
X-FadeStskeeps: Cool.08:34
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Stskeeps( to ns5)08:35
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Stskeepsmorn smoku08:39
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smokuhi Stskeeps08:52
harbaumHow's audio supposed to work in mer? No also utils?08:53
Stskeepsharbaum: sounds like a good candidate for inclusion :08:55
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Stskeepswhat does alsa-utils specifically do?08:56
harbaume.g. set and restore mixer settings08:56
harbaumi use it to bring the beagle autio into a sane initial state08:57
Stskeepsi'll add that to next release08:57
harbaumand if you are at it: xorg-x11-utils-xinput would also be handy, wouldn't it?08:57
Stskeepsthat can probably go in tools repo instead of core08:58
harbaumthe tools repo is where?09:00
Stskeepsnowhere currently, guess we should set up a central obs project on cobs somewhere09:00
Stskeepsfor now you can put it in your hardware adaptation i guess09:02
Stskeeps(grab src.rpm from meego, rpm2cpio *.rpm | cpio -idv   and add it to obs with osc09:04
slaineOk, full link pac in progress, approx 10am my time09:07
slaineit'll probably finish tomorrow night ;)09:07
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lbtaren't alsa-utils a UX layer - where UX=console?09:14
Stskeepslbt: not restoring mixer settings, it is a hook hardware adaptations need in core09:14
lbtor maybe Tools is more sensible09:14
Stskeepslbt: so it can't be in tools only if it is needed to run a device09:14
slainewouldn't a more standard name be Utils ?09:15
Stskeepsalso possible09:15
slaineyou don't see many packages with -tools in their names, it's usually -utils. And those are the types of packages we're talking about grouping together09:16
Stskeepslbt: now answers authoratively for merproject.org09:16
Stskeepslbt: with AXFR working from ns.formeego.org09:16
lbtthat's not what's in it on my Debian box - all mixers, midi players, etc09:16
lbtOK DNS ...09:17
lbtI asked if could be NS for merproject.or09:17
lbtsince that's another name for ns.formeego.org09:17
lbtI haven't set it yet09:18
lbtbut it seems the lowest risk so far09:18
lbtonce that is done we can add those NS in09:18
lbtmy proposal is we do first with 1&1 as secondary09:19
lbtthen when that works we do and ns3.gratisdns.dk09:19
Stskeepsi think you have it upside down, i'd consider that higher risk :) my proposal is that we set 'my' nameservers and then attempt to add or eventually09:19
Stskeepsas that will make sure it won't break stuff09:19
lbtwe know for a fact that last time they added a Nameserver that was not 1&1 registrar it broke09:20
lbtwe know that is not registrar'ed by 1&109:20
Stskeepsthat wasn't the problem09:20
Stskeepsthe problem was that wasn't registered and they attempted to register it09:20
lbtI can show you the emails where they say it is09:20
lbtand I know they are probably wrong09:21
lbtbut hey ...09:21
Stskeepsgladly, my source is one of your emails09:21
lbtdoes it need to be registered... or does it need to be registered for the specific domain ?09:21
lbtif the former you're OK09:22
lbtif the latter then we have another 10 day saga09:22
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Stskeepsit just needs to be registered - basically, what they attempted was to register a nameserver that they had no ability to do so09:22
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Stskeepsmy set is known working and registered09:22
lbtOK - if you know that then that's fine09:22
lbtshall I do it?09:23
Stskeepsi will take the blame if the switch to fails09:23
lbtsure - which first? mer-project or merproject09:24
Stskeepsthat one is set up09:24
Stskeepshaven't set up mer-project09:24
harbaumalsa-utils wants xmlto which in turn wants dpcbook-xsl .... argh ....09:25
Stskeepsharbaum: see if you can dump that dependancy09:25
Stskeepslbt: so, in - my name server, primary nameserver = , 1 secondary:, 2. secondary, - 3rd field we can leave open for / experimet09:27
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lbtthe reason I was mentioning it is that alsa-utils on debian has:
lbtStskeeps: did it already09:28
Stskeepslbt: think alsactl is the useful one, mixers etc is more like added value09:29
Stskeepslbt: we can probably put those out in own sub-package09:29
harbaumimho it's fine in tools. actually not all plattforms will have audio at all and you can bring up any plattform without audio09:29
Stskeepsalsactl is fairly important for bootup, i think09:29
Stskeepser, bringup09:30
Stskeepsso that's my reasoning09:30
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faenilgood morning people :)09:50
JucatoStskeeps: have you heard from vgrade and company if the Advent Vega is a good dev device (for Mer and Plasma Active)?09:51
StskeepsJucato: did you seethe video?09:54
Jucatoit's the reason I got excited when I realized what we had here at home :D09:55
* Jucato patiently waits for vgrade to wake up ...09:55
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harbaumpubworker07 ist still broken ...10:18
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Stskeepsmorn vgrade10:41
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vgrade-scotlandOn my hols for a couple of days10:42
Stskeepslbt: http://wiki.merproject.org10:42
vgrade-scotlandWas there some questions about vega10:43
Stskeepsvgrade-scotland: Jucato had some10:43
Stskeepslbt: that was quick, though10:44
Stskeepslbt: i had assumed it'd take ~48 hours10:44
Jucatovgrade-scotland: whoa! are you wearing a kilt? :)10:44
vgrade-scotlandJucato hi10:44
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Jucatoactually I posted this on another channel but: <Jucato> vgrade: ping. what were the things you had to do to get Active running on the Advent Vega? did you have to modify the installed (Android) system in there?10:44
Jucatolong story short: we have one at  home, but it's technically government property ;)10:45
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Jucato(with a totally crappy custom Android version that makes the iOS look like gold)10:45
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vgrade-scotlandWe replace the android boot.img with our own kernel and init rd. This points to met/active root F's on microsd card.10:47
Jucatobut I might be able to get my own, but if I can be sure of its long term viability as a Mer/Plasma development device (like the ExoPC) :P10:47
Jucatoah I see. so I guess fooling around with this particular unit is a "no" then. :)10:47
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Jucatovgrade-scotland: so, would you recommend it as an ok device?10:49
vgrade-scotlandWe are aiming to dual boot vegacomb and plasma.10:49
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vgrade-scotlandIts sip but I think it could be used for plasma app Dev. We have a todo list on the wiki10:51
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vgrade-scotlandIt is10:51
vgrade-scotlandThe android boot.img can be reinstated easily10:53
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lbtStskeeps: so who can manage mailing lists?10:54
Stskeepssmoku had one set up already for us10:54
Jucatovgrade-scotland: really? I'm not used to these things except on the n900 (which was dead easy with u-boot). and the Galaxy Tab is anything but ... are there instructions? if I'm lucky enough, I might be able to get my hands on my own Vega really soon. :)10:55
lbtok - so we need one for boss noise10:55
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Stskeepslbt: got access to add stuff to zonefile yet?10:55
lbtwill do10:56
Stskeepslbt: lists IN MX 10
* lbt ponders if bz is too heavy for tracking these details10:58
Stskeepswell, we should have a infrastructure component at least10:58
lbtis iekku on it yet?10:58
vgrade-scotlandJucato the sdcard image is up.  I'll put up the boot.img and some instructions soon10:58
Stskeepslbt: she's at work but she said she wanted to discuss it later today i think10:59
Jucatovgrade-scotland: great! thanks :)10:59
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iekkubit annoying, but can't really do mer stuff when @ office11:00
Stskeepsfood on table first, open source second11:01
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iekkuneed to get wife to better payed job11:04
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araujoStskeeps, iekku o/11:18
Stskeepsmorn araujo11:18
iekkugood morning araujo11:20
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harbaumHmmm ... udevd is constantly eating cpu and memory on the beagle ....11:24
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Stskeepsharbaum: interesting, udevadm monitor ?11:25
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harbaumwhy do we have these anyway?11:27
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Stskeepsthat looks a bit messed up - cat /proc/mdstat ?11:28
harbaumPersonalities :11:28
harbaumunused devices: <none>11:28
Stskeepswhat on earth enters that device then11:29
StskeepsSage_: <- fairly good11:30
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harbaumhmm, it's not mtdbock that's casing the udev events. i have disabled mtdblock support and the events still happen.12:13
Sage_Stskeeps: yes seems nice12:14
Sage_Stskeeps: trying to get project ready for SR's12:14
StskeepsSage_: ok12:14
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StskeepsSage_: that's new..12:16
Sage_Stskeeps: qemu was updated to 0.15, maybe cause?12:17
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Sage_lbt, X-Fade: ^ qemu update might have broken that, but not entirely sure.12:21
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lbtno response12:22
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Sage_hmmp.... cobs unreachable again12:23
Sage_about the same time than yesterday?12:23
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lbtSage_: ah, yes, you have the wrong opcode in 0x60094f8012:31
Sage_lbt: so easy fix?12:32
lbttry 0x447312:32
lbtlet me know12:33
Sage_I have no idea what you mean with that.12:33
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lbthehe ... complete lack of humour these Finns12:34
gabrbeddlbt: I thought the official meego opcode was 0xDEADBAAD12:34
* Sage_ doesn't have much humor left atm.12:35
lbtsorry Sage_12:35
lbtworking on your repos though12:35
* gabrbedd hugs Sage_ 12:35
StskeepsSage_: i'm planning on project-wide qemu eventually, scriptripper did some work in that direction12:37
lbtSage_: sh: dpkg-architecture: command not found in that package btw12:37
Sage_lbt: yes, but that doesn't matter it goes through still.12:38
Sage_just bad code in some script12:38
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Sage_gabrbedd: thx :)12:42
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* merlin1991 forgot the name of the brave soul who tried to build his own obs again12:42
Stskeepsslaine, for instance12:43
slaineit's working12:44
slaineI've a how to written12:44
slaineI'll put it up once a full i586 build completes12:44
slaineright, I'm back to another meeting for a few hours12:44
slainewish me lucj12:44
slaineluck even12:45
* merlin1991 wishes slaine luck, hopes to remember that nick finally and waits for the howto12:45
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Sage_Stskeeps: were you able to cut the newt and mkinitrd deps from n900 kernel btw?13:20
Stskeepsnewt is easy13:20
Stskeepsmkinitrd we need to consider if we'll break stuff with it13:20
Stskeepsas the .spec uses it13:20
Sage_new is easy means what?13:20
Sage_just cut it out?13:20
Stskeepsi wouldn't totally be against a redesign of kernel packaging13:22
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Sage_Stskeeps: it is awfull :)13:22
Stskeepsalways has bee13:23
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* gabrbedd likes it a mite better than debian kernel packaging.13:34
gabrbedd(not talking about DEB... but the policies/procedures)13:34
* OdyX chuckles.13:37
StskeepsPaimen: you spoke at some point about plexiglass used as whiteboard, could you point me in the right direction on what exactly that means? webpage is fine :)13:37
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dm8tbrStskeeps: watch random war movie from 80s or later and you'll have those command centers with glass and scribbles all over. ;)13:42
Stskeepshmm :P13:43
Stskeepsgood point, i should watch wargames again..13:43
dm8tbryeah, that one prolly had it too13:43
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iekkuuuh, busy evening coming13:58
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lbtiekku: nm .. ping when you can...14:38
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iekkulbt, ok :D14:45
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Stskeepsmorning Alison_Chaiken16:17
Alison_ChaikenHuomenta, Stskeeps.    Hope all is well.   I've been playing with EGL and GLES and having fun.16:17
Stskeepshehe, geek fun is always good :)16:17
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Alison_ChaikenLast night I told myself I would go to bed at 10 PM for sure, but at about 10 PM I finally figured out what was wrong with my Makefile . . .16:18
Stskeepsand yeah, things are fine - mer hardware adaptations are starting to pop up, Plasma Active on tegra2/advent vega, beagleboard, ideapad s10-3t, etc16:18
Stskeeps(and of course n900)16:19
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JaffaHave folks seen - it seems Taku will be at and be a "minimum Linux dependencies to boot Qt 5" with "Qt Creator integration"17:38
Stskeepsyeah, saw17:39
Stskeepswe're going for a little bigger stack17:39
Stskeepsi don't consider it a competitor, more like someone to collaborate with17:40
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Stskeepsafter all, people just want tools to make their work easier, Mer's one, Taku's one17:45
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Stskeeps'lo Mordae17:49
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* ieatlint would be one of the people working on taku18:21
Stskeepsah, cool - what is it based on? yocto/OE?18:22
ieatlintits own thing18:22
ieatlinti'm not the decision maker :P18:23
Stskeepsthink it's a good initiative18:23
ieatlintwe'll see18:25
ieatlintthe plan is to get it all running well without X via eglfs18:25
Stskeepsmakes sense18:25
Stskeepsi wouldn't mind if someone made a eglfs-compatible libEGL wrapper for raspberry18:25
Stskeepsthe current api is just a bit crazy for setting up fullscreen egl18:26
ieatlintwell we're already running eglfs on the board18:26
ieatlintand testing with qmlscene18:26
araujoieatlint, is Taku specially tailored for Raspberry I guess?18:26
Stskeepsyeah, but with modified eglfs and linking straight against their libs/headers18:27
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ieatlintyes, to both18:27
Stskeepscan eglfs be built out-of-tree?18:28
Stskeepsie, as a qt module18:28
ieatlintand a nice helping of proprietary broadcom binary blobs18:28
ieatlintit's being built as a platform plugin, so it's not inside the qt libs18:28
Stskeepsthat makes more sense18:28
Stskeepsideally i would prefer to have that modded eglfs outside what's current qtbase, so we can have a hardware adaptation package for that in mer18:29
ieatlintthe modified eglfs plugin won't be merged into qt, but the patch we apply is up in a repo now18:30
Stskeepsinstead of building entire qt5 for that specific egl/gles thing18:30
Stskeepser, qtbase18:30
ieatlintwe'll be releasing everything needed to build qt5 and eglfs for the board... but not entirely open, sadly18:30
ieatlint(not open to me even, i don't have any source to all this, just headers and built libs)18:31
Stskeepsyeah, i know18:31
Stskeepsi have a copy of the broadcom glesv2 stuff + headers18:31
* Stskeeps ponders idly18:34
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Stskeepsi wouldn't mind wayland on that thing, tbh18:34
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Stskeepsbut it's unclear to me if the gles chip has anything else than the overlay control18:40
Stskeeps(not that that is bad...)18:40
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ieatlinti've got no clue, i was tasked with getting qt5 cross compiled on the board18:42
ieatlintand then writing a keyboard input driver18:42
ieatlintwe're not working on packaging, and looking at whether we can get any mouse support done quickly (eglfs lacks a cursor, so complicated18:43
ieatlintanyway, i'm off to lunch, will be back later18:43
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qgilvgrade1 = vgrade ?18:50
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Stskeepsieatlint: ah, evdev19:25
Stskeepsqgil: yeah, same person but not sure if he's on irc atm - sorry about the misunderstanding on the thread, just had an enlightening talk with ieatlint on the graphics side of things :)19:26
qgilif ieatlint = Jeffrey then good  ;)19:26
ieatlintyeah, what i did will be submitted as a merge request into qt5 for the keyboard stuff19:27
ieatlintand yeah, hey Quim... i'm indeed Jeffrey19:27
qgilhi there, a new nick to remember19:27
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ieatlintStskeeps: i don't think of it's of specific interest/use to what you're doing, but the keyboard plugin i have is at
ieatlintit's generic linux, will work on any system that has udev19:28
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ieatlint(or without udev if you specify the path to the keyboard)19:28
Stskeepsieatlint: cool19:28
* Stskeeps bookmarks19:29
igheaso... is there a build of the new awesome mer for n810..? =)19:29
Stskeepsighea: there's armv6 rpms and a .ks19:29
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qgilieatlint: looking forward to see the ICS guys adding themselves to the Team section at
qgilotherwise it looks like a 100% Nokia initiative when that is far from the reality19:30
ieatlinti'll add myself now, but it's pretty much just me working on this... will poke Roland to add himself as well19:32
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igheaStskeeps: so now simpleton editions available yet?19:32
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Stskeepsighea: not yet, let's see how things turn out19:33
Stskeepsighea: before n8x0 is useful we need llvmpipe working properly and tested19:33
Stskeepsotherwise it can't make the plunge to qt5 when that time is19:34
igheaStskeeps: okay, thanks. perhaps I'll just wait for that to happen then. :i19:34
* Stskeeps tries to find his old businesscard layouts19:35
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vgradeqgill, missed the point sorry19:47
gabrbeddICS means... what?19:49
Stskeepsgabrbedd: company19:55
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Bostikhum yes, I need to put a couple of bugreports in against qt5 on arm...19:55
gabrbeddStskeeps: thanks20:00
gabrbeddah, I remember them, now.20:00
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cxl000vgrade plasma starts on the trimslice but lack of mouse and kwin dying are a bit of a problem20:14
qgilgabrbedd: (wow, a small org with a 3 character domain)20:16
qgilvgrade: it is not a problem as long as now you get it  ;)20:16
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lbtsmoku: ping20:24
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harbaumllvmpipe? I thought there are SGX drivers for the n8x0. Aren't there?20:32
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harbaumTime to read those old "the N800 has a 3d accelerator" threads ...20:39
lbtiirc they never got redistribution permission20:47
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harbaumok, done reading. So Stskeeps got the accelerator running, but obviously never solved the problem with the stalling hardware20:53
lbtwow ... fast reader!20:54
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smokulbt: ?21:20
lbtmailing lists and things21:23
lbtwe have the DNS for merproject setup now21:23
smokuso the ML should just work21:27
smokuor... you are asking about the MX record, aren't you? :)21:27
smokulbt: set it same as lists.xiaoka.com21:28
smoku$ host lists.xiaoka.com21:28 mail is handled by 10
lbtOK so what lists do we have ?21:29
smokumer-general AFAIR21:29
smokulemme check21:29
lbtI've not seen this format before21:30
smokuyes. mer-general21:30
lbtlists IN MX 10
lbta valid zone file line ?21:30
smokuxkh0:~# cat /var/spool/mlmmj/mer-general/control/listaddress21:30
smokushould work21:31
lbtOK - can you add Nemo-commits and Mer-commits21:31
lbtall lowercase21:31
smokuI already subscribed mail-archive to mer-general21:32
smokushould I do so for -commits?21:32
lbtis that normal practice?21:32
smokunot really21:33
smokuunless you use -commits list for code review21:33
lbtwe do21:33
lbtOK - lists appears to be operational now21:34
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smokuso the lists should work too21:37
lbthow do you subscribe?21:38  etc.21:38
smokujust tested - it works21:39
lbtposting policy?21:39
smokuyou will get the rest of addresses in welcome message21:39
smokuso far out-of-list posting is allowed21:39
lbtI need to allow the boss bot to post commits21:39
smokubut I can change it21:39 isn't going to be updated anymore? everything related to meego is only community effort now? or mainly mer effort?21:40
lbtFrom: needs to be whitelisted21:40
lbtpdanek: you should ask in #meego :)21:40
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smokulbt: no-mail subscription?21:40
lbtbut yeah mainly21:40
lbtno - just sending21:40
lbtwhilst it's open it's not a big deal21:41
smokulbt: ok. I whitelisted boss21:42
smokuso if we decide to close the ML it will still work21:42
smokuthe owner of the lists is postmaster@merproject.org21:43
smokuso it would be nice if this alias would point somewhere :)21:43
lbtit should rather...21:44
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smokumlmmj is pretty versatile, so if we need header or subject mangling, any custom footer etc. I could set it up21:44
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smokufor now it21:44
smoku's pretty basic21:45
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smokuunobtrusive ;-)21:45
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lbt"we need to point somewhere"21:48
lbtlogin using meego login21:48
smokuwould you like me to create a bug? right?21:49
lbtyes ... I was going for subtle21:49
lbtby, you know, pointing to a bugzilla section and giving you a title :)21:50
* lbt makes a note to order a gold brick and a slice of lemon21:50
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smokujust wanted to make sure ;-)21:50
* smoku is new here21:51
* lbt is very grateful for the help on the ml ... really21:51
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smokupretty theme for bugzilla21:52
smokulbt: I've been sysadmin for many years, so if you need any other help just say so21:53
lbtyes please21:54
lbtdon't suppose you know about xen and time drift ?21:54
smokuknow about - yes.  we didn't manage to fix it21:55
smokuI asked a friend that fought that battle. Maybe he has some new answers.21:56
lbtah well - we have 50+ VMs and 5 have drift21:57
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lbtall opensuse11.4 phosts21:57
lbtwith a mix of squeeze and 11.4 VMs21:57
smokuwe had 6 laptops, 2 of them drifting21:57
smokuI was working on for some time21:58
smokuwhich is havily XEN based21:58
lbtah ... yeah I recall21:58
lbtxen per app iirc21:59
smokuthe friend just answered21:59
smokuthe current solution is ntpd in every domU ;-)21:59
lbtyeah I do that22:00
lbtstill drifts on 422:00
lbtwhich is really spooky22:00
smokuand there is an tsc_mode option you may try tweaking22:00
smoku(have no idea what that means - just translating)22:01
dm8tbrntp is essentially a software pll. there are failure modes that will break it bad. drift in VMs is one of them22:01
lbtdm8tbr: I've been wondering if they've found an unhappy state with the drift log22:02
lbtand are resonating or similar22:02
dm8tbrI'd suspect it's the timewarps that make ntp go into failsafe or something. It's a bit late for more well founded statements.22:03
lbtyeah ... but smoku thanks for that - another rabbit hole to try22:03
dm8tbrI just had to call security to get me out of the office, because 1 day of 24h access means, well for the calendar day... So I'll be heading off to bed22:04
lbtsleep very well dm8tbr22:04
dm8tbrI'll be more talkative for all other issues tomorrow22:04
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smokulbt: you can always use a sledgehammer and put ntpdate -s to cron22:10
lbtyeah - I proposed that at todays IT meeting ...22:11
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vgradecxl000, have you seen
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vgradeI'm rebasing on KDE:Devel watch this space22:47
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cxl000vgrade I'll have a look.23:14
cxl000Have you tried the tegra drivers with X11 at 24 bits.23:14
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