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| wmarone__ | vgrade: I know, I wish ARM installs were so easy | 00:38 |
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| lilstevie | arm will always be a pain for installs | 00:39 |
| lilstevie | well, until UEFI | 00:40 |
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| lilstevie | at the moment no common bootloader is a problem, that and that every device needs its own kernel rather than rolling a universal one | 00:41 |
| wmarone__ | lilstevie: oh, well aware of the issues. UEFI might help (working with it now, on x86) but they'll have to do something about all those crazy custom GPIO assignments and what not :/ | 00:45 |
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| lilstevie | wmarone__, yeah | 00:47 |
| lilstevie | wmarone__, pinmux differences are a pain | 00:47 |
| wmarone__ | or maybe they can do what samsug did with the exnyos and just start using PCI express, like a real PC ;) | 00:47 |
| wmarone__ | samsung* | 00:47 |
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| iekku | alterego, pong | 03:27 |
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| dm8tbr | moaning | 04:19 |
| djszapi | morning | 04:21 |
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| iekku | morning | 04:48 |
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| Mordae | Morning. | 05:07 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 05:08 |
| djszapi | anybody from Berlin ? | 05:12 |
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| dm8tbr | djszapi: what about berlin? | 05:13 |
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| djszapi | dm8tbr: just wondering whether we could get some local help for the sprint duration. | 05:15 |
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| dm8tbr | care to be more specific? berlin is a huge city with vast possibilities. being vague doesn't help to give you pointers. | 05:23 |
| djszapi | would be all kind off-topic here. Hence I just asked one question and if that is the case, "off-discussion". | 05:25 |
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| Stskeeps | duddvsiv_: http://monster.tspre.org/~merreleases/README.txt might be more correct for you | 06:01 |
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| vgrade | morning | 06:05 |
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| Stskeeps | morn vgrade | 06:07 |
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| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: hmm, happen to know any good ruby on rails companies in .pl? | 06:17 |
| dm8tbr | ugh | 06:18 |
| dm8tbr | don't think so | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 06:18 |
| slonopotamus | "good ruby on rails" <-- an oxymoron | 06:21 |
| dm8tbr | .oO(that took long) | 06:21 |
| vgrade | https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13646#c4 , nice | 06:21 |
| vgrade | no continuation into Tizen there | 06:22 |
| Bostik | gee, thanks a bunch then | 06:23 |
| Bostik | there is NIH and there is NIH but that looks outright negligent | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | well, IVI 1.3 | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | at least we have our own playground now | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:25 |
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| Jucato | <Stskeeps> dm8tbr: hmm, happen to know any good ruby on rails companies in .pl? <--- just read that as "any good ruby on rails companies in perl" | 06:27 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 06:27 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:27 |
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| duddvsiv_ | stskeeps: this is siva i am trying to build Mer:Trunk:Base project in local OBS | 06:41 |
| duddvsiv_ | I got logs from scheduler -i586.log as below | 06:41 |
| duddvsiv_ | cycle: gamin -> glib2 | 06:42 |
| duddvsiv_ | cycle: gamin -> glib2 | 06:42 |
| duddvsiv_ | - autoconf (spec) | 06:42 |
| duddvsiv_ | start build | 06:42 |
| duddvsiv_ | - automake (spec) | 06:42 |
| duddvsiv_ | start build | 06:42 |
| duddvsiv_ | - binutils (spec) | 06:42 |
| duddvsiv_ | start build | 06:42 |
| duddvsiv_ | - bison (spec) | 06:42 |
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| duddvsiv_ | start build | 06:42 |
| duddvsiv_ | - bzip2 (spec) | 06:42 |
| duddvsiv_ | start build | 06:42 |
| duddvsiv_ | - cloog (spec) | 06:42 |
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| eg81 | :) | 06:42 |
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| * Stskeeps tries to build qtwebkit and hopes the thing doesn't keel overagain | 06:55 | |
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| Bostik | Stskeeps: 2.2? if you do get that built I'd love to see the .spec (because I've been plagued by freaky build errors due to missing include paths) | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: right now 2.1 | 06:57 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm waiting with the major upgrades until we have working images, and ideally working testing :P | 06:58 |
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| Bostik | heh | 06:58 |
| Stskeeps | the idea is for mer output to be sane each time, if possible :P | 06:58 |
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| w00t | :P | 06:58 |
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| cxl000 | I have mer Core/QML viewer running on trimslice | 07:03 |
| Stskeeps | cool, congratulations :) | 07:04 |
| Stskeeps | gles or no gles? | 07:04 |
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| cxl000 | should be gles | 07:10 |
| cxl000 | using hardfp drivers | 07:11 |
| Stskeeps | k | 07:11 |
| Stskeeps | verify with editing the .desktop file that launches qmlviewer to have -opengl in the end | 07:11 |
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| cxl000 | I wanted to try and build with softfp drivers but COBS is giving unresolvable | 07:12 |
| cxl000 | for basic armv7l packages | 07:12 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm, show me your project? | 07:12 |
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| cxl000 | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=kernel-adaptation-trimslice&project=home%3Acxl000%3Atrimslice%3AMer%3Atesting | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, you screwed up the scheduler name | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | for armv7l it's armv7el | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | not armv8el | 07:13 |
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| cxl000 | I have that in the parent project https://build.pub.meego.com/project/repositories?project=home%3Acxl000%3Atrimslice%3AMer | 07:16 |
| Stskeeps | parent projects doesnt matter | 07:17 |
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| cxl000 | I am selecting "Mer armv7 softfp port" in Repositories | 07:20 |
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| Stskeeps | right, follow the guide that's in topic | 07:20 |
| lbt | hey iekku | 07:20 |
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| cxl000 | OK I fixed the raw config to use the correct scheduler and it is now working | 07:24 |
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| lbt | so we have a community bz ... alterego has admin and can grant to iekku if I'm not here | 07:24 |
| lbt | got to go out now ... back in ~2hrs | 07:25 |
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| harbaum | vgrade: Would you mind enable building plasma for armv7l ? | 07:29 |
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| harbaum | Why isn't there an arm port in: http://repo.pub.meego.com/Mer%3a/Trunk%3a/Base/standard/ ? | 07:31 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: old repo, due for removal | 07:31 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: URLs in topic list what repos you should add | 07:31 |
| harbaum | Is there a current one? | 07:31 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.com/wiki/Building_against_Mer_in_COBS | 07:32 |
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| harbaum | Hmm, and where is the repository it's building against? http://repo.pub.meego.com/Mer:/fake doesn't exist | 07:34 |
| harbaum | Basically: What repo should i be building images from? | 07:34 |
| * Sage is thinking about the repository name | 07:34 | |
| Sage | Mer_Core_{arch} | 07:34 |
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| harbaum | But wher is that? Url? | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: OK, so, Mer is actually built elsewhere, in my OBS, we take the output of that, which is rsyncable, and run a thing called 'fakeobs' which acts like a remote OBS | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | Mer:fake actually contains projects/repositories inside, remotely | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | webui just doesn't show it | 07:35 |
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| harbaum | So what repo line should i use in my kickstart? | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | http://monster.tspre.org/~merreleases/ - check under http://monster.tspre.org/~merreleases/releases/0.20111018.6/builds/ | 07:36 |
| harbaum | Ah, i am already using that. Sounded like something rather old .... | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | you're using /~prjfetcher | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:37 |
| harbaum | Ah, indeed ... | 07:37 |
| harbaum | Why isn't there a "latest" link? | 07:37 |
| iekku | lbt, thanks :) | 07:37 |
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| Stskeeps | harbaum: mostly because i haven't set that up yet ;) | 07:38 |
| harbaum | Ok, valid reason | 07:39 |
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| harbaum | Is git on kernel.org still dead? Grrr .... | 08:04 |
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| eg81 | harbaum: hmm at least I was able to open kernel.org main page | 08:16 |
| harbaum | I can't git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-2.6-stable.git | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | it's on github atm i think | 08:17 |
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| Bostik | url = git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git | 08:17 |
| Bostik | the URI has changed in the rebuild | 08:17 |
| harbaum | Ah, ok, thanks | 08:20 |
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| harbaum | My 800x480 video patches don't apply to the ubuntu beagle kernel anymore ... | 08:33 |
| harbaum | Because they are already included by default :-) | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | 2hehe | 08:34 |
| harbaum | They even named it "MeeGo": patches/display/0001-meego-modedb-add-Toshiba-LTA070B220F-800x480-support.patch | 08:35 |
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| Sage | What do we want to call our ia32/x86/i586 adaptation? | 08:43 |
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| Jucato | "Deserter" -_- | 08:47 |
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| vgrade | harbaum, added | 09:07 |
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| djszapi | X-Fade: How can the compiler crash ? :) https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=soprano&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | compilers does that at times | 09:11 |
| djszapi | never seen in the last X years. | 09:12 |
| Bostik | I have | 09:12 |
| Bostik | just try building Qt inside qemu system emulation | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | djszapi: usually new ARM optimizations mess up and harmattan has an ancient compiler | 09:12 |
| djszapi | also in native environment ? | 09:12 |
| Bostik | happens EVERY TIME, due to out-of-memory killer hitting at the same point | 09:13 |
| djszapi | qemu is not that stable toy then | 09:13 |
| Bostik | gcc treats that the same as any ICE | 09:13 |
| djszapi | Stskeeps: that would not be a problem per se since never happened yet in scratchbox, just on the community obs. | 09:14 |
| Bostik | djszapi: also ARM has a fixed limit on how much memory it can address - if compilation or linking requires to map more, you're screwed | 09:14 |
| djszapi | yeah, but it is 2011 :) | 09:14 |
| djszapi | qemu is not erally a trustworthy stuff then if it can manage the compiler to crash. | 09:16 |
| djszapi | really* | 09:16 |
| * w00t has crashed gcc on x86 a few times | 09:16 | |
| Stskeeps | djszapi: add a 'file /usr/bin/gcc' into your packaging somewhere and give me the output | 09:16 |
| Bostik | hell, you can't even build chromium on a 32bit system any more; the linking stage needs to map >4GB which just isn't possible | 09:16 |
| w00t | what's a little more annoying are the times when you don't get a crash, but miscompiled code instead | 09:16 |
| w00t | I've had that happen more often | 09:17 |
| djszapi | w00t: really ? :) | 09:18 |
| w00t | yes | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | either way, harmattan has it's own problems and we've solved most of those in mer :P | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | when it comes to compilation | 09:19 |
| djszapi | It is not a Harmattan problem imho since scratchbox works fine. | 09:19 |
| djszapi | it is community obs + harmattan issue. | 09:19 |
| djszapi | actually even the local osc build works fine. | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | well, it's not a Mer issue | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:20 |
| djszapi | true :p | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | so not sure why we're talking about it here, #harmattan seems like a saner target, or bugzilla reporting issues for harmattan/COBS mix | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | often when x-fade is on, you're not in the channel so it gets a little difficult for people to answer :P | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | so bugzilla is probably better | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | ok, back to hacking.. | 09:21 |
| djszapi | *nods* | 09:22 |
| djszapi | w00t: how does a miscompiled code behave, and how do you realize that, is it a runtime misoperation, or wrong elf and so on format, or ? | 09:22 |
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| w00t | looking at the compiler output, or higher level debugging: if gdb (and debug output) tells you that a vector is empty, yet it skips over a check on that vector being empty, then something is wrong | 09:23 |
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| djszapi | w00t: ok, thanks. | 09:38 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: should rdiff work against Mer:fake:Core:i586 ? | 09:51 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: there are sources in there at least | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: OBS may be messing up through | 09:53 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: also what is the repository for fake OBS, i.e., where can I get the rpm's (should say in project description) | 09:53 |
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| Sage | <summary>Unknown project 'Mer:fake:Core:i586'</summary> | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | fun | 09:54 |
| Sage | I just need to know if the qt patch is in there already or not and same with tzdata | 09:54 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: osc co Mer:fake:Core:i586 qt qt.changes | 09:55 |
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| Stskeeps | (should work) | 09:56 |
| Sage | works thx | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | http://monster.tspre.org/~merreleases/releases/0.20111018.6/builds/ is rpms i think | 09:56 |
| Sage | ok | 09:57 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: any suggestions for the ia32 adaption name? ia32, x86, pc, intel, ... ? | 09:58 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: so, the thing is that there will likely be a lot of shared components, but also very different adaptations even on ia32 - like, some will have different mesa's with different settings | 09:59 |
| Sage | yes, but will we name adaptation based on the chipset then? | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: so i think can do something like x86-generic which is typical packages everyone no matter their device needs | 10:00 |
| Sage | like oaktrail ? | 10:00 |
| Sage | x86-generic sounds good | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | ok then | 10:01 |
| Sage | CE:Adaptation:x86-generic <- wondering if we should have more subprojects | 10:01 |
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| Sage | but well that can be added later | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | i'm thinking to flip mer core's mesa to be default llvmpipe at some oint | 10:02 |
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| Stskeeps | and then have mesa-intel- or something | 10:03 |
| Sage | that mesa-intel would be in adaptation then | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | how we handle that in practice is a good question | 10:03 |
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| Sage | so far so good part of the MW:Shared compiled successfully on arm as well | 10:08 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: I was wondering about the repository names again, and trying to avoid names that will cause problems later. So what if we would name the repos based on the target. Lets say I'm compiling CE:MW:Shared against Mer:fake:Core:i586 (i586) I name repo Mer_Core_i586. Then I have CE:UX:MTF compiling against CE:MW:Shared/Mer_Core_i586 I name the repo CE_MW_Shared_i586 (Dropping MER as it is just extra) | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | makes sense | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | so you want to drop Mer_ in the wiki doc in topic? | 10:14 |
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| Sage | w00t: have you had time to look at the libcontent action? | 10:25 |
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| w00t | Sage: no, still waiting for everything to settle down | 10:26 |
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| Sage | w00t: ah, that thing. Fair enough | 10:27 |
| Sage | w00t: hopefully end of this week :) | 10:27 |
| w00t | *nod* | 10:27 |
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| Sage | w00t: what packages you expect to be available with lipstick from this list https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?arch_i586=1&defaults=0&project=home%3Asage%3AMer%3AUX%3AMTF&repo_Mer_i586=1&succeeded=1 ? | 10:31 |
| w00t | at build time, or? | 10:32 |
| Sage | build time and runtime | 10:33 |
| Sage | buildtime only libcontentaction | 10:33 |
| Sage | AFAIK | 10:33 |
| w00t | libcontentaction, meegotouch-compositor will be needed at runtime, as will sysuid and the other friends (I dunno what they all entail) | 10:33 |
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| Sage | ok, that is enough for me. Just the main packages dependencies are my problem :) | 10:34 |
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| * lbt keeps an eye out for dm8tbr ... and an update on the NS saga | 10:46 | |
| Stskeeps | i'm waiting for the notification that AXFR was added :) | 10:47 |
| lbt | getting a DNS machine that has the magical blessing is the current blocker AFAIK | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:48 |
| lbt | I could add some stuff to the 1&1 cpanel but it's so crap it's not worth it | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | that's why i'm getting AXFR permissions on formeego.org nameserver so we can set up the shadow NS i spoke about | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | with working nameservers | 10:48 |
| lbt | yes - that's great | 10:48 |
| lbt | with meego our master DNS wasn't even reachable from the internet | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:49 |
| lbt | OK ... boiler fitting phase 2 ... bbiab ... highlight me if needed | 10:49 |
| lbt | Sage: can you work with iekku on thinking how to put bugs in the new bz for those tasks you mentioned n #meego-infra | 10:50 |
| lbt | stops them getting lost | 10:50 |
| Sage | lbt: sure | 10:50 |
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| iekku | i'm not in the #meego-infra, so needing some info... | 10:52 |
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| slaine | Stskeeps: running through my steps | 10:55 |
| slaine | that make step takes a while longer than I remembered ;) | 10:55 |
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| pdanek | have anyone tested Mer + Plasma Active on Nokia N9? :) | 11:08 |
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| Stskeeps | not yet | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | let us get CE on there first | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | er, nemo | 11:10 |
| smoku | pdanek: is ther HA for N9 available already? | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | not entirely yet | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | for n900 first | 11:10 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: so, "Nemo" was chosen? :) | 11:10 |
| pdanek | smoku: HA? | 11:11 |
| smoku | hardware adaptation | 11:11 |
| pdanek | smoku: Nemo? name? | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: yeah | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: not in the 'no one' sense, but in the 'Nemo tries to project a stern, controlled confidence, but he is driven by a thirst for vengeance and a hatred of imperialism (particularly the British Empire)' | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 11:12 |
| pdanek | what's the point of releasing Nemo for N950? :P | 11:13 |
| pdanek | nobody has N950 except devs :/ | 11:13 |
| pdanek | I tried to get it, but no success | 11:13 |
| Stskeeps | pdanek: well, n950/n9 is practically same hw adaptation | 11:13 |
| pdanek | didn't know | 11:13 |
| pdanek | as I'm looking for N900 replacement, N9 looks good in case it will have dev. attention :) | 11:14 |
| pdanek | means your attention :) | 11:14 |
| pdanek | what is the current web browser option in community MeeGo? | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | we use helium but fennec also existed | 11:15 |
| smoku | chromium | 11:15 |
| pdanek | hehe | 11:15 |
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| dm8tbr | lbt: I've asked my friend to add them, no reply yet | 11:15 |
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| Stskeeps | slaine: how's your build going btw, out of curiousity? | 11:16 |
| pdanek | also, how did you solve virtual keyboard usage in terminal emulator, in Meego? | 11:16 |
| pdanek | as N9 lacks HW keyb. | 11:16 |
| Stskeeps | we have a pretty good vkb | 11:17 |
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| smoku | that even became separate project other distros use now | 11:17 |
| pdanek | any name for it? | 11:17 |
| Stskeeps | Maliit | 11:17 |
| pdanek | thx! | 11:17 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: I'll be restarting it later, going through my Mer setup guide to make sure I didn't miss any points | 11:17 |
| pdanek | as on Android I had issues with vkb in terminal | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: just curious if it bootstrapped or not by now, :) | 11:18 |
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| slaine | nah, I'd accidentally put my machine to sleep that had the ssh session with fakeobs running, so the build was failed when I got in, d'oh | 11:20 |
| slaine | so figured I'd wipe them anyway, start from scratch following the setup guide | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | ah, makes sense | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | 'nohup python fakeobs.py 8001 > /dev/null &" is quite nice | 11:21 |
| pdanek | 1 more question | 11:22 |
| pdanek | have anyone implemented any GPS/map software? openstreetmap maybe? | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | i think xrura has | 11:22 |
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| slaine | Stskeeps: I normally use screen | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | also ok | 11:25 |
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| Siva | what is the meaning of build log (scheduler-i586.log) blocked: 296 scheduled: 6 building: 6, notready: 302, unfinished: 302 ,is it build is going on or build is blocked? | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | Siva: build ongoing | 11:34 |
| Siva | ok, thank you | 11:35 |
| Siva | if i use osc buildhistory Mer:Trunk:Base i586 ,it is showing error "Error: '/home/buildserver' is not an osc package working copy" any idea to resolve it? | 11:38 |
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| ZogG | hey | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | Siva: osc -A http://yourobs maybe | 11:42 |
| ZogG | can anyone advice dissent table that mer can be installed on? | 11:43 |
| ZogG | tablet* | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | exopc | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | advent vega | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | etc | 11:48 |
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| Jucato | Stskeeps: someone has done it for the exopc already? | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | well, it's fairly likely to work | 12:11 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: your qt5 git is up to date then? | 12:14 |
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| Bostik | Stskeeps: yeah, there hasn't been anything I'd need to change | 12:22 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: haven't taken a look since monday evening though... | 12:22 |
| Bostik | (they do tend to drop major refactors in from time to time) | 12:23 |
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| Stskeeps | alright | 12:23 |
| Bostik | and the last I looked, it builds directly on top of mer with 0 changes | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | that's good | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | i guess we should set up some project on COBS that delivers qt5 builds, for those liking bleeding edge | 12:24 |
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| alterego | Stskeeps: +1 ;) | 12:30 |
| alterego | maybe some wayland too ... | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. so many things :P | 12:30 |
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| Stskeeps | X-Fade: no, thought you'd let me know when set up :) | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | X-Fade: merproject.org has AXFR permission now? | 13:12 |
| X-Fade | details details. | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | k | 13:12 |
| X-Fade | Yeah, you should :) | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:12 |
| * Stskeeps goes enable | 13:12 | |
| Stskeeps | now to wait for it to appear in those nameservers | 13:13 |
| X-Fade | If you give me the exact ips, then I can notify them on change. | 13:13 |
| Stskeeps | there is one, sec.. | 13:14 |
| Mirv | ok the problem I mentioned on #meego-arm with N950 was really apparently some auto-shutdown on not fully enough loaded battery | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | X-Fade: notify to axfr.gratisdns.dk has address 91.221.196.11 | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | X-Fade: AXFR worked, btw | 13:17 |
| X-Fade | Stskeeps: Ok, let me see it will notify you. | 13:18 |
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| X-Fade | Stskeeps: .10 did an AXFR | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: think it might take ~15 minutes for it to really set up | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | i just tested AXFR through web | 13:20 |
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| Stskeeps | we can test notify properly when ns1.gratisdns.dk responds for the domain | 13:20 |
| X-Fade | Yeah, I'll update the serial then. | 13:22 |
| vgrade | COBS down for anyone? | 13:27 |
| X-Fade | vgrade: everything meego. | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | scheduled? | 13:28 |
| alterego | Oh dear .. | 13:28 |
| X-Fade | No, just outage. | 13:28 |
| X-Fade | Graph dips to 0. | 13:28 |
| alterego | Well, the pub bz is still online .. | 13:28 |
| X-Fade | http://netfoo.nero.net/netviewer?locale=OSUOSL-Linux-Foundation&button=Redraw&mib=ifInOctets%3AifOutOctets%3AtransitOctets%3AtransitRate&cfunc=Avg&size=Normal&limit=100000000000&period=day | 13:29 |
| alterego | brb | 13:29 |
| vgrade | lf pulled the plug | 13:31 |
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| X-Fade | More, tripped over the plug. I guess they put it back in now :) | 13:34 |
| X-Fade | And gone again. | 13:36 |
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| berndhs | they're brining up the tizen infra, sharing the same power supply | 13:39 |
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| alterego | Heh, | 13:56 |
| alterego | So what's the latest on DNS? | 13:56 |
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| harbaum | Hi. My collegues just told me, that the DNS server you want to use doesn't respond to icmp echo requests. They weren't sure whether their tool tries to check availability that way | 14:02 |
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| pdanek | is there USB host in Mer / community MeeGo? :) | 14:08 |
| pdanek | as N9 lacks it out of the box | 14:08 |
| alterego | Being worked on I believe. | 14:11 |
| alterego | 17% :) | 14:12 |
| alterego | Moving much quicker now | 14:12 |
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| slaine | Issues for the yoctoproject servers too it seems | 14:13 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps: ping | 14:25 |
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| gprade | hello all | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | lo gprade | 14:42 |
| slaine | that's one hell of a download | 14:42 |
| slaine | :) | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | which, rsync? | 14:43 |
| gprade | Stskeeps: i read in a forum your name, carsten i think. is this you, are you from germany? this name is famous in germany | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | gprade: nop, i'm danish | 14:44 |
| gprade | oh, ok. i know a cool man from danmark, he is working on debian/debian-edu together with a good friend of me | 14:45 |
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| Stskeeps | living in poland thogh | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | though | 14:46 |
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| gprade | i do not realy understand the past postings, is mer now called nemo? | 14:47 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: yeah | 14:48 |
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| slaine | think it's almost there | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: you only rsync what's in README.txt right / make | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so, we have a project that deals with making a open handset user interface, called community edition - this now is called Nemo | 14:48 |
| slaine | hoping that I can kick off the osc linkpac before it's time to head | 14:49 |
| gprade | i understand, so i must looking in news now for meego, mer and neo to see what is going on in the community | 14:50 |
| gprade | neo = nemo | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 14:50 |
| gprade | :-) | 14:51 |
| gprade | what are you all working on at the moment? what are your next steps | 14:52 |
| Stskeeps | i've been fighting with qtwebkit a bit today - the goal for this week is to have the Nemo UI up on Mer on N900 | 14:52 |
| Stskeeps | some others have put plasma active on tegra2 tablets | 14:52 |
| Stskeeps | others have put Cordia on top of x86, etc | 14:52 |
| gprade | yes, i see the first videos on youtube about tegra and plasma | 14:53 |
| gprade | looks cool | 14:53 |
| gprade | what is this discusion about cordia tablet hardware? do the developer have or have not a tablet? or is his tablet a prototyp? i am lokking for a tablet to play with mer/meego/nemo/.... | 14:54 |
| gprade | do you think i can also buy a nokia n9 and use a later version of mer to play with? | 14:55 |
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| Stskeeps | well, that's my plan personally, but the OS on there is quite good too | 14:56 |
| gprade | i am in germany and if, i must buy the n9 from austria or ??? | 14:57 |
| leinir | gprade: switzerland? | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | or poland | 14:58 |
| gprade | maybe, at the moment i am waiting for amazon | 14:58 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, pthreads issue with armv7l? https://build.pub.meego.com/package/rawlog?arch=armv7el&package=openldap&project=home%3Avgrade%3APA2&repository=Mer_Core_armv7l | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: see if you can get me config.log somehow | 14:59 |
| gprade | at the moment there is live in tv the discussion about ther german trojan in german government in berlin, very interesting | 14:59 |
| Stskeeps | gprade: ah, that can't be pretty | 15:01 |
| gprade | it is not pretty, but nice to see that the government must be transparent (sorry if i use sometimes german word i hope, that they the same in englisch), i think oss is the best way to be transparent | 15:02 |
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| berndhs | its ok, because the state never does anything wrong, especially in germany :/ | 15:03 |
| * Stskeeps plays widelands | 15:04 | |
| gprade | are anyone from germany here? | 15:04 |
| lbt | dm8tbr: DNS ? | 15:07 |
| dm8tbr | 11:15:49< dm8tbr> lbt: I've asked my friend to add them, no reply yet | 15:07 |
| lbt | oh ta, I missed that | 15:08 |
| dm8tbr | np | 15:08 |
| lbt | what about now then? | 15:08 |
| lbt | :D | 15:08 |
| dm8tbr | nope. he might be somewhere in transit. IIRC he was enjoying vacation on that island of yours | 15:08 |
| slaine | lbt, dm8tbr, yoctoproject servers where also having problems (Also LF infrastructure hosted in OSU) | 15:10 |
| dm8tbr | slaine: different problem. :) | 15:10 |
| slaine | hehe, ok | 15:10 |
| dm8tbr | but yes, I've noticed some flip-flap from the meego servers today. my icinga was complaining | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: still waiting for secondary NS'es to start responding, a little unsure why they're not yet | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | \ | 15:12 |
| lbt | I haven't changed anything at 1&1 .. so their NS are still authoritative, won't allow AXFR and have no useful records | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | that's fine | 15:13 |
| lbt | *hopefully* we can set the NS very quickly when we have some confidence | 15:13 |
| harbaum | Stskeeps: Widelands? On n950? Or Mer? | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: no, laptop, i try to relax once in a while to ward off burnout ;) | 15:16 |
| harbaum | "try to relax" :-) | 15:17 |
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| harbaum | Mer on beagl enow with Kernel 3.0.7 and latest TI GFX-4.03.00.02 :-) | 15:22 |
| Stskeeps | cool :) | 15:22 |
| harbaum | Faster and no more mtdblock warning nor any graphics glitches | 15:22 |
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| Velmont | Ahh. I once did some graphics fixes for Widelands. Always wanted to do more. | 15:23 |
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| leinir | harbaum: sweet :) | 15:28 |
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| slaine | Stskeeps: I don't think that download will finish by the time i've to head in the next few minutes | 15:28 |
| slaine | Ah, just finished, but I still have to head | 15:29 |
| Stskeeps | cya | 15:29 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, config.log? | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | able to do a local osc build? | 16:14 |
| vgrade | ok, lets try | 16:17 |
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| pdanek | Nemo is based on the discuss of seafood names while ago on this IRC? | 17:07 |
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| pdanek | as I remember I wrote Nemo first time :D | 17:07 |
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| dm8tbr | pdanek: well nemo ended up on the list and it was compiled from here and the mailing list, so yes it's quite possible you are to blame for the new name. | 17:10 |
| dm8tbr | while I still think it should have been called PinkPonyOS... :( | 17:11 |
| pdanek | hah, just was interested :-] | 17:11 |
| dm8tbr | pdanek: according to my irc logs you are indeed to be blamed! ;-p | 17:12 |
| dm8tbr | 2011-10-11 17:12:13< pdanek1> Nemo | 17:12 |
| dm8tbr | the next mention was already after the name was announced | 17:13 |
| pdanek | wonderful :D | 17:13 |
| dm8tbr | cthulu or kraken would have been fun too :) | 17:14 |
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| pdanek | indeed | 17:22 |
| gabrbedd | Fish are friends, not food! | 17:24 |
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| berndhs | well, calling Captain Nemo a "friend" could be a stretch | 17:43 |
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| harbaum | are there meego packages for those qml demos used to demonstrate the raspberry pi? I really want something fancy for the beagle .... | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | once we have the qt5 packages up on COBS yes - i just haven't found time to upload them yet | 18:11 |
| Stskeeps | bostik has been working on qt5 packaging | 18:11 |
| Bostik | I'd need a few days of uninterrupted spare time to fix the few missing bits (Q3D -> location, couple of other minor tidbits) | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | no rush | 18:17 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps: ping...if u're online I'd like to know some things about CE Fall | 18:18 |
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| Stskeeps | faenil: mm, sure, but let's talk in #meego-arm ? | 18:18 |
| faenil | ok | 18:18 |
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| Bostik | on the other hand, "uninterrupted spare time" does not fit well into the picture with baby in the house :) | 19:43 |
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