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| Stskeeps | good morning | 06:24 |
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| rigo | +1 | 06:25 |
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| rigo | :) | 06:25 |
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| Stskeeps | at least i managed to sleep quite a long while, not as tired as at FOSDEM :P | 06:26 |
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| Bergkatze | Greetings, everybody. | 06:45 |
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| chem|st | tadzik: all fine on your end now? | 09:38 |
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| tadzik | chem|st: oh, yes, all good now. Thanks! | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | tadzik: did you get it upgraded btw or how was it? | 10:32 |
| tadzik | Stskeeps: get it upgraded? | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | yeah you had some issue a while back on the phone side | 10:32 |
| tadzik | yeah, it just came out of nowhere | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:32 |
| tadzik | I think that some notification saying "you're running out of disk space" might be useful :) | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | i did think to translate it into 'btrfs sucks' | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:33 |
| fzk | btw, what fs does the jolla run? | 10:37 |
| chem|st | tadzik: I had that right after an upgrade, so btrfs full might be after upgrade and playing around with recovering your contacts tracking | 10:37 |
| fzk | and another thing, im really thinking of ordering one but homepage states delayed delivery due to installing sailfish 2.0, is it possible to get them to just send the device and let me upgrade myself? | 10:38 |
| chem|st | I had all kind of unmatched stuff like msging opening empty contact cards while showing the name in the conversation but only unknown number when pulling to the side | 10:38 |
| chem|st | and stuff alike | 10:38 |
| chem|st | fzk: btrfs on phone ext4 on tablet | 10:38 |
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| chem|st | fzk: ordering does not take long usually, ignore the delay notice, it might be not there in two days though | 10:39 |
| chem|st | and you actually want it to be flashed, to get the newest factory images put on | 10:40 |
| lainwir3d | o/ | 10:40 |
| lainwir3d | ext4 + lvm on tablet | 10:41 |
| fzk | chem|st: i c, ive been longing to replace my phone since the jolla came out | 10:44 |
| chem|st | fzk: lol, that was 2 years ago^^ | 10:44 |
| fzk | lvm is nice | 10:44 |
| chem|st | not much you can do with the lvm though | 10:44 |
| fzk | chem|st: i dont like being a beta tester :) | 10:44 |
| chem|st | at least nothing fancy I'd do! | 10:44 |
| fzk | i have no problem waiting for software to be mature | 10:45 |
| chem|st | fzk: well then a year?! | 10:45 |
| fzk | but 2.0 seems really nice | 10:45 |
| chem|st | I was forced by a preproduction phone to swap over to jolla just days after I got it, and as phone it was most of the time usable | 10:45 |
| fzk | so if i order it now, i will expect it to be in my hands on friday ;-) | 10:45 |
| chem|st | cehteh: how long did your phone take to be delivered? | 10:46 |
| fzk | i dont think its worth to wait for the intex, i have a feeling it will be a few more months | 10:46 |
| chem|st | fzk: he hit it just about when they started reflashing | 10:46 |
| fzk | i see | 10:46 |
| fzk | that would be good to know actually | 10:47 |
| chem|st | fzk: if you can live without android you might want to have a look at what ported devices are available ;) | 10:47 |
| fzk | i wanted to buy one in the store but nobody in .se sells them | 10:47 |
| chem|st | well, you usually don't display old things | 10:48 |
| chem|st | fzk: you could get a fairphone2 as soon as something official is known to be released by jolla | 10:48 |
| fzk | is it that bad compared to todays devices? | 10:49 |
| fzk | i mean, outdated | 10:49 |
| chem|st | no but retail stores ususally do not have stuff from 2 years ago when it comes to electronics that are rare | 10:49 |
| fzk | yeah, very true. but how is the device, is it "snappy" or starting to feel outdated? | 10:50 |
| chem|st | it is a bit outdated sure, now you get more ram/storage/cpu as always | 10:50 |
| chem|st | and the modem does not support VoLTE but who cares | 10:50 |
| chem|st | I am still waiting for someone to do a quadcopterTOH :) | 10:51 |
| fzk | hmm | 10:56 |
| fzk | is even volte widely adopted? | 10:56 |
| fzk | its not even in production in .se according to wiki | 10:57 |
| fzk | sounds like a feature i dont need 8] | 10:57 |
| chem|st | providers are starting to get online, at least 2/3 in Germany are already VoLTE enabled | 10:58 |
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| chem|st | and someone told me that their provider is disabling 3G for good in 2016 | 10:59 |
| fzk | thanks for that, as long as 2g and 4g works i would be happy | 11:00 |
| fzk | 3g is horrible | 11:00 |
| chem|st | if there wasn't that latency I'd prefer satelite networks... | 11:01 |
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| Wnt | Any sailors around? I found a bug in the Taalojärvi messaging application when sending a message to multiple recipents | 11:26 |
| Wnt | the answers from recipents appear in the multi recipent "thread" in the messaging app and you cannot tell which of the recipents sent the answer | 11:27 |
| till- | to you mean this one: https://together.jolla.com/question/7973/sms-sending-to-multiple-recipients-problems-with-delivery-reports-and-received-replies/ | 11:28 |
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| Wnt | ah great! tried searching from TJC, but didn't find that | 11:30 |
| Wnt | I thought the problem was introduced in Taalojärvi | 11:30 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | chem|st, here in italy 4g penetration for some providers is very low | 11:46 |
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| chem|st | dr_gogeta86: rural Germany you might not even get proper EDGE or even coverage at all | 12:20 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I remember ... sometims i did some trip to cottbus outside berlin ... and sometimes also NeuKoln ...is out of coverage | 12:21 |
| dr_gogeta86 | NeuKoln as berlin | 12:21 |
| chem|st | berlin district | 12:21 |
| kimmoli | developing countries | 12:22 |
| chem|st | yeah I live close to the french boarder in the woods... I know that I am off in the wrong direction as soon as I loose signal, wrong valley then ;) | 12:22 |
| chem|st | kimmoli: just looking into how expensive the ORMA trimaran from waterworld is, so I get prepared for the worse | 12:23 |
| chem|st | $800k isn't that much | 12:23 |
| chem|st | missing cell coverage for good^^ | 12:24 |
| fzk | lol@taobao | 12:28 |
| fzk | almost tempting just to have one | 12:31 |
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| Pawky | is there any way to ban phone numbers in Jolla? | 13:31 |
| tadzik | gsmtables! | 13:32 |
| kjetilho | do you mean Microsoft support? :-p | 13:32 |
| Pawky | gsmtables?.... | 13:32 |
| Pawky | well.. on an android phone you can just ban a contact | 13:32 |
| till- | there was an app for that | 13:34 |
| till- | https://openrepos.net/content/ovekaaven/scumstopper | 13:35 |
| Pawky | there was?.. not is? | 13:36 |
| lainwir3d | oh | 13:36 |
| lainwir3d | awesome ! | 13:36 |
| till- | dunno if it's still working | 13:37 |
| fzk | lol, i read without the s :( | 13:39 |
| kjetilho | oh yeah, http:// LOL | 13:40 |
| fzk | irc damaged since the 90s | 13:40 |
| fzk | no, run echo scumstopper|sed 's/s//' | 13:41 |
| fzk | eyes tend to read what the mind wants to read | 13:41 |
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| Pawky | the search feature in the jolla store seems a bit limited... it cannot find tuner in Sailtuner, no matter *tuner* or not.. | 13:44 |
| chem|st | Pawky: yeah seems it only searches begining of words | 13:47 |
| tadzik | Pawky: that's how I imagine iptables on phones to be called :P | 13:47 |
| Pawky | kind of... crappy... | 13:47 |
| chem|st | Pawky: maybe there is a "full text search" tjc?! | 13:47 |
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| citylight2 | hi, I had some issues with my jolla during the last half a year. I then restarted the phone to factory settings two weeks ago, and had these issues again | 14:16 |
| citylight2 | I then found that the reason was I was using call recorder with saved files to /home/nemo.local and filled up the filesystem | 14:16 |
| citylight2 | so I move these files to the SD, and the space was reclaimed. | 14:17 |
| citylight2 | Is it possible that any more damage was caused when the file system ran out of space? | 14:17 |
| citylight2 | should I restart to factory settings again? | 14:17 |
| till- | I would guess that doing a factory reset causes more wear to the flash memory and thus would cause more damage | 14:19 |
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| till- | unless it's working I wouldn't do a factory reset | 14:19 |
| till- | s/unless/if | 14:20 |
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| citylight2 | ok, thnaks till, anyone else? | 14:20 |
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| citylight2 | hi SpeedEvil | 14:31 |
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| citylight2 | does an upgrade write a new OS image to boot from? | 15:06 |
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| chem|st | citylight2: any non static stuff might have hickups like msging db or people etc besides that you should be fine, and even that can be fixed as did tadzik just yesterday with some guidance ;) | 15:30 |
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| chem|st | citylight2: new osimage? packages get upgraded, that might include the kernel | 15:31 |
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| citylight2 | thanks chem|st, any idea when sailos will work with beacons? | 15:40 |
| fzk | beacons? | 15:42 |
| fzk | ah, support for bacon | 15:42 |
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| * kid prefers bacon over beacons | 15:44 | |
| chem|st | citylight2: beacons, no idea, bacon calling works since 2 weeks ago or so.. so for me that is "it works" | 15:45 |
| chem|st | kid: I'd like to have beacons to point me to bacon^^ | 15:45 |
| chem|st | radar beacons all over the place! | 15:46 |
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| fzk | o.o | 15:55 |
| fzk | i have my own personal bacon finder | 15:55 |
| fzk | ..my dog! | 15:55 |
| fzk | extremely efficient also | 15:55 |
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| fzk | erhm, raspberry pi running sailfish, seriously | 15:57 |
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| Oni^ | cool, link to source? | 16:05 |
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| phlixi_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo6zlKcn3UU | 16:12 |
| phlixi_ | https://sailpi.wordpress.com/ | 16:12 |
| locusf | fzk: Oni^: yup it works | 16:14 |
| phlixi_ | and here is the source of locusf confirmation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HpsMkUIBDY :-) | 16:15 |
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| tappel | argh | 16:30 |
| tappel | semi-bricked my jolla :( | 16:31 |
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| tappel | or i don't think I did anything | 16:31 |
| tappel | ui stopped responding, occasionally I get a picture but for example logo isn't showing at boot | 16:32 |
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| tappel | i don't have the firmware image for factory reset, although it wouldn't do any good immediately because I can't find a suitable microsd card | 16:34 |
| tappel | anyone have the image file? | 16:34 |
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| phlixi_ | tappel: i think coderus already linked a few times to some download for an image | 16:42 |
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| phlixi_ | afaik there are public logs for this channel, thus you might just google it :-) | 16:43 |
| tappel | oh | 16:43 |
| tappel | thanks | 16:43 |
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| phlixi_ | FYI depending on where you are, its maybe illegal (I assume jolla isnt putting up an "official" image due to some licence issues with some blobs) | 16:44 |
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| schoppenhauer | hi. is it possible to configure a jolla phone to use usb-internet-tethering to wifi? (that is, effectively, using the jolla phone as a "wifi stick") | 16:54 |
| schoppenhauer | because even if I have a connected wifi, it always sends through my mobile connection | 16:54 |
| schoppenhauer | and even worse, it always *activates* it, even when I deactivate it | 16:54 |
| stephg | schoppenhauer: that doesn't sound right | 16:55 |
| schoppenhauer | stephg: why? | 16:55 |
| stephg | and to answer your question probably yes | 16:55 |
| stephg | you deactivate mobile data, it should stay deactivated | 16:55 |
| schoppenhauer | stephg: why does it not sound right, and how to do? | 16:55 |
| schoppenhauer | it doesn't, apparently | 16:55 |
| PeperJohnny | there is a thread on tjc, but they have no solution | 16:56 |
| PeperJohnny | https://together.jolla.com/question/55118/feature-request-share-wifi-connection-over-usb/ | 16:56 |
| schoppenhauer | hm… | 16:57 |
| stephg | schoppenhauer: so to be clear | 16:57 |
| stephg | jolla on wifi | 16:57 |
| stephg | plug computer into jolla | 16:57 |
| schoppenhauer | yes. | 16:57 |
| stephg | set computer's route etc. to use the jolla | 16:57 |
| schoppenhauer | yes. | 16:58 |
| stephg | so usbnet in reverse? | 16:58 |
| schoppenhauer | no. | 16:58 |
| r0kk3rz | https://together.jolla.com/question/3798/usb-tethering/ | 16:58 |
| r0kk3rz | not quite what you want, but close | 16:58 |
| schoppenhauer | no. | 16:58 |
| schoppenhauer | because it doesn't work | 16:59 |
| schoppenhauer | as I already pointed out | 16:59 |
| r0kk3rz | sorry i must have missed that bit | 16:59 |
| schoppenhauer | gah. maybe I'll just try a developer connection with ssh -D | 16:59 |
| schoppenhauer | (I hope this will work) | 16:59 |
| stephg | r0kk3rz: evidently so did I | 16:59 |
| stephg | schoppenhauer: what doesn't work | 16:59 |
| stephg | I'm just asking you what conceptually you want to happen | 16:59 |
| kjetilho | anyone gotten tethering via bluetooth to work? | 17:00 |
| schoppenhauer | stephg: telling jolla to tether the wifi through usb. | 17:00 |
| schoppenhauer | stephg: it always uses my 3G connection | 17:00 |
| kjetilho | stephg: the jolla should appear as a network-card to the PC | 17:00 |
| schoppenhauer | stephg: even though I told jolla to *not* use mobile data | 17:00 |
| r0kk3rz | schoppenhauer: i'd suggest talking to phdeswer about it whenever he is around | 17:01 |
| * kid has only tested wifi & usb tethering | 17:01 | |
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| schoppenhauer | I'll just try developer mode… | 17:01 |
| stephg | kjetilho if the PC is linux (dunno about the others) it should be possible with 2 commands to share the wifi connection with the pc | 17:01 |
| stephg | not pretending to be a device | 17:01 |
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| stephg | but with simple masquarading | 17:01 |
| stephg | schoppenhauer: you've not enabled that yet? if not, do, it should be straight forward | 17:02 |
| stephg | the thing I don't follow is why it's using gsm at all if you've disabled it | 17:02 |
| kjetilho | kid: you did the "pkcon install usb-moded-connection-sharing-android-config" thing? | 17:02 |
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| kjetilho | nice. I didn't know this! "dhclient enp0s26f7u1", and I can connect to my Jolla over USB. | 17:11 |
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| schoppenhauer | stephg: well, I now tunnel through the developer mode. | 17:12 |
| stephg | yup | 17:12 |
| schoppenhauer | and it works. | 17:12 |
| stephg | cool | 17:13 |
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| schoppenhauer | ssh-tunneling I mean ;) | 17:13 |
| schoppenhauer | but it is enough for me | 17:13 |
| stephg | if you were talking about gui stuff then thats nott going to work (yet) | 17:13 |
| tappel | anyone have an idea about my jolla by the way? i got the factory image but i haven't found a microsd card so i might as well keep on researching this a bit | 17:14 |
| schoppenhauer | yes. but messing around with iptables is maybe also not the best solution. just using ssh -D seems to be simple. | 17:14 |
| stephg | but ssh as you have or iptables would both work | 17:14 |
| kjetilho | the documentation for Jolla/SailfishOS is quite hard to find :/ | 17:14 |
| tappel | it turns on but does not show logo, does not show anything on the screen, but backlight turns on and off | 17:15 |
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| tappel | double tap or power button turns the backlight on, occasionally with the indicator led flashing rapidly green | 17:16 |
| kjetilho | I mean, why not mention that the username is "nemo" somewhere? | 17:16 |
| stephg | kjetilho: has to be on tjc somewhere? | 17:17 |
| tappel | the proximity sensor seems to be on at all times when the phone is turned on | 17:17 |
| kjetilho | stephg: that's exactly it. "somewhere" | 17:18 |
| tappel | (glows very dimly red) | 17:18 |
| stephg | but yeh unless youre oldschool meego youd niot know tghat | 17:18 |
| stephg | kjetilho: are you new to us here | 17:18 |
| * stephg apols for typing, holsding clingy 1yr old | 17:18 | |
| kjetilho | I probably did see that username on my 770 10 years ago | 17:18 |
| kjetilho | but I had forgotten | 17:18 |
| tappel | the phone rings when calls are received but i can't answer them | 17:19 |
| stephg | kjetilho: nemo is newer than that but yeah | 17:19 |
| kid | kjetilho: nope, ad. usb-moded-connection-sharing-android-config | 17:19 |
| kjetilho | Fatal error: File './mw/armv7hl/usb-moded-connection-sharing-android-config-0.82.3-1.19.1.armv7hl.rpm' not found on medium 'https://releases.jolla.com/releases/2.0.1.7/jolla/armv7hl/' | 17:19 |
| kjetilho | interesting that it did find a version number | 17:20 |
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| tappel | it seems sms messages are also received, but I can't read them... | 17:23 |
| kjetilho | (pkcon refresh did the trick, of course) | 17:24 |
| tappel | wow, even google chat messages are received by the phone | 17:28 |
| tappel | so, not at all bricked but rather unusable | 17:28 |
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| kjetilho | yay, it works like a charm | 17:29 |
| kjetilho | tappel: you have tried to remove the battery? | 17:32 |
| tappel | kjetilho: yes, several times | 17:32 |
| tappel | i'm starting to suspect this is a hardware issue | 17:32 |
| tappel | display somehow not properly connected | 17:33 |
| tappel | I've not gotten a picture to show in the last couple of hours at all | 17:33 |
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| tappel | but then again, when I last got it to work enough to use the phone, it was sluggish and I looked at top on terminal and lipstick was using a lot of cpu | 17:35 |
| tappel | could it be the proximity sensor somehow? | 17:35 |
| tappel | afaik it shouldn't be always on | 17:35 |
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| pp__ | wut, turing phone uses sailfish: http://suomimobiili.fi/turing-puhelimen-piti-kayttaa-androidia-mutta-vaihtui-lennossa-suomalaiseen-sailfish-os-kayttojarjestelmaan/ (fincrypted) | 18:47 |
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| pp__ | here we go: http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/02/turing-phone-gets-delayed-switches-to-sailfish-os.html | 18:48 |
| M4rtinK | should not be an issue given the storage used :) | 18:48 |
| phlixi_ | i hear the first tim eabout a "turing" phone | 18:50 |
| eye_a_ | Jolla )01!@ )0h | 18:50 |
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| Sidde | yay! | 18:53 |
| Sidde | Sailfish is alive! | 18:53 |
| tadzik | Sailfish OS is an operating system that is based off of Linux – which that should tell you why it can run Android apps | 18:54 |
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| tadzik | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 18:54 |
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| Nicd- | I commented that Alien Dalvik is made by Myriad, not by Jolla | 18:54 |
| M4rtinK | well, I would be a bit cautious about this | 18:54 |
| pp__ | libhybris and alien dalvik are a small miracle | 18:55 |
| M4rtinK | as apparently the phone is already delayed quite a bit | 18:55 |
| Sidde | M4rtinK: sure, vaporware it is | 18:55 |
| M4rtinK | & people seem to be quite skeptical about the company (at least according to comments in various articles) | 18:55 |
| spiiroin | tappel: the "dicator led flashing rapidly green" = panic pattern for: lipstick process is not responsive during display power up | 18:55 |
| M4rtinK | could very well be | 18:55 |
| spiiroin | tappel: i.e. ui does not draw and display power up sequence can't be finished | 18:56 |
| Sidde | M4rtinK: but it was a long time since there was any positive news | 18:57 |
| spiiroin | tappel: if you get backlight & green led from double tap -> most likely that: proximity sensor is working ok & touch firmware is sending double tap events | 18:57 |
| Sidde | M4rtinK: i mostly feel depressed when i think of my phone situation and that i really should start making plance to migrate to android soon | 18:58 |
| Sidde | *plans | 18:58 |
| M4rtinK | well, I don't see why I should migrate from my Jolla | 18:58 |
| spiiroin | tappel: journal might be helpful if you can somehow get it | 18:58 |
| M4rtinK | handles my use cases just fine | 18:59 |
| M4rtinK | its more of the wasted potential that irks me | 18:59 |
| Sidde | M4rtinK: mine too for now, but the battery is getting bad. And if the company runs short of many i can't trust the patch cycle to continue | 18:59 |
| Sidde | *money (can't spell right now it...) | 18:59 |
| M4rtinK | mainly due to all the closed stuff, so small but annoying issues can't be fixed and Jolla is too busy to fix it themselves... | 19:00 |
| M4rtinK | Sidde: well, I managed to secure some batteries that one time when they were available :) | 19:00 |
| Sidde | M4rtinK: :) | 19:00 |
| M4rtinK | + there is a third party one that IIRC works too | 19:01 |
| Sidde | M4rtinK: but my jolla is living on overtime. I've dropped it twice while sailing | 19:01 |
| M4rtinK | but indeed, Jolla-the-company capsizing would be bad | 19:01 |
| Sidde | M4rtinK: once it bounced on the safety wire and inside the cockpit | 19:01 |
| M4rtinK | due to some unfortunate technological decisions that have been made | 19:01 |
| Sidde | the other time it bounced on the edge of the cockpit and inside instead of out | 19:01 |
| M4rtinK | like no images, no repo mirrors, etc. | 19:02 |
| Sidde | its the only 2 times i've ever dropped a phone... | 19:02 |
| Sidde | M4rtinK: yes | 19:02 |
| M4rtinK | Sidde: as long as it does not fall all the way down it should be fine :) | 19:02 |
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| M4rtinK | Sidde: also I guess you need to fly under a cloud to actually see something on the display :) | 19:03 |
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| Sidde | M4rtinK: yes, that sucks bigtime | 19:03 |
| Sidde | M4rtinK: i bought a wrist watch acctually to solve that issue :D | 19:03 |
| Sidde | so i don't need to look at the display so much | 19:04 |
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| phlixi | shaky freenode today... | 19:05 |
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| Sidde | M4rtinK: also made some apps with very bright big letters and numbers | 19:05 |
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| M4rtinK | Sidde: that could help | 19:05 |
| Sidde | M4rtinK: the hard part is to log in with gloves and no visibility | 19:06 |
| M4rtinK | Sidde: also AFAIK people are hacking e-ink ebook readers to use as flight computers | 19:06 |
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| M4rtinK | the e-ink screen is ideal for that | 19:06 |
| Sidde | M4rtinK: when sailing in sweden, gloves is a year round thing | 19:06 |
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| Sidde | and wearing long underpants | 19:07 |
| M4rtinK | well, most sailplanes are pretty drafty | 19:07 |
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| Sidde | M4rtinK: i'm a boat sailor | 19:07 |
| M4rtinK | but no problem, you can still get sunburned without even trying :) | 19:07 |
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| M4rtinK | oh | 19:07 |
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| M4rtinK | lol | 19:07 |
| M4rtinK | makes sense now :D | 19:07 |
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| Sidde | M4rtinK: haha | 19:07 |
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| Sidde | M4rtinK: guessing you got comfused with the word cockpit? | 19:08 |
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| M4rtinK | not many water based sailors here in Czech Republic :) | 19:08 |
| M4rtinK | but I know a few saiplane pilots :) | 19:08 |
| Sidde | M4rtinK: :D | 19:08 |
| M4rtinK | kinda | 19:08 |
| Sidde | M4rtinK: a lot of sailboats in this country | 19:08 |
| M4rtinK | I know the ship part is also called like that | 19:08 |
| M4rtinK | just not used to ships that much :) | 19:09 |
| Sidde | or in the entire scandinavia | 19:09 |
| M4rtinK | makes sense | 19:09 |
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| M4rtinK | with all the sea & waterways | 19:09 |
| M4rtinK | the bazillion of lakes in Finland, etc. :) | 19:09 |
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| M4rtinK | have you tried modRana ? :) | 19:10 |
| Sidde | M4rtinK: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNexGfoGTHpGWWfl6wGUtLiysWbehAvouwDl7ffuagPgk5B6E8xMDNkoS97kkl3UA/photo/AF1QipMvrbJ3yk8_UqQMBKdX7Tk6_XXjtJrzhAWMbV4C?key=bzA5Y0hkeTJQSlZZOE1iVXl4a08xaHpCa2h5cWl3 | 19:10 |
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| Sidde | M4rtinK: no, don't have sea charts for digital use | 19:11 |
| Sidde | M4rtinK: so i've made my own gps navigational app, and use paper charts | 19:11 |
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| Sidde | M4rtinK: i bought the jolla to make a more complete app, but have lost the momentum a bit | 19:12 |
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| M4rtinK | Sidde: if there was a suitable web mercator tile source I could add it :) | 19:15 |
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| M4rtinK | Sidde: I know about http://www.openseamap.org/index.php?id=openseamap&no_cache=1&L=1, but that's probably too basic | 19:16 |
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| Sidde | M4rtinK: i live to far up north for any opensea chart to be avalible | 19:17 |
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| Sidde | and, for trustworthiness one needs something that you can trust in any case | 19:18 |
| M4rtinK | that's for sure | 19:18 |
| Sidde | not that paper charts will do much better | 19:19 |
| Sidde | last time anyone checked the depth around here was pre 1940 | 19:19 |
| Sidde | and that was not with modern equipment | 19:19 |
| Sidde | And we have a land rise with about 1cm a year | 19:19 |
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| Sidde | that's live in the north ;) | 19:20 |
| M4rtinK | heh | 19:20 |
| M4rtinK | every ride is an adventure :) | 19:21 |
| Sidde | but it's pretty simple here. I live in an area called the high coast | 19:21 |
| Sidde | so it's pretty much "mountains" and hills where all the land is, and is about 40m depth 20-30m out from land | 19:21 |
| Sidde | often you can sail right up to the coastline | 19:22 |
| Sidde | but it's the placed you can't you do want to be able to trust something | 19:22 |
| M4rtinK | I can imagine uncharted underwater rocks as being super nasty | 19:23 |
| Sidde | yes, you prefereble want an older long keeled boat for that kind of hit | 19:23 |
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| attah | Funny that you should be discussing this today.. i was/am poking around with swedish lantmäteriet newly opened maps | 19:28 |
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| attah | I was considering trying to make some kind of tile server with cowboy in erlang just for the heck of it | 19:29 |
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| Sidde | attah: :) | 19:31 |
| Sidde | attah: a closed friend of mine use to be a developer for lantmäteriet. For their web api stuff | 19:32 |
| attah | Sidde: interesting.. but using that would also be the boring solution ;) | 19:33 |
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| tappel | spiiroin: thanks | 20:23 |
| tappel | I can read the journal over usb | 20:24 |
| tappel | I'll try that and see what's up there | 20:24 |
| tappel | oh. | 20:31 |
| tappel | the touchscreen actually works, I just have to use it blindly | 20:31 |
| tappel | so, at least in principle, i should be able to answer calls | 20:32 |
| tappel | and I can't seem to read the journal | 20:34 |
| tappel | journalctl doesn't seem to exist, at least not in recovery console | 20:35 |
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| spiiroin | tappel: if you can access the journal data (normally visible at /var/log/journal/*/system*.journal), you can copy those over and use journalctl at desktop | 20:38 |
| tappel | ok | 20:38 |
| tappel | I haven't enabled persistent journals but that's easy to do in recovery console... | 20:39 |
| tappel | I'll try that | 20:39 |
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| tappel | ehh | 20:42 |
| tappel | i probably should actually mount the root partition | 20:42 |
| HtheB | coderus: ping | 20:44 |
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| tappel | umm | 21:13 |
| tappel | I'm not exactly sure what to look for in the journal, but for example I get Feb 02 22:50:53 Jolla kernel: Console does not enable | 21:13 |
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| tappel | also, probably at power button or double tap: Feb 02 22:52:34 Jolla [1024]: [C] unknown:0 - Failed to create display (No such file or directory) | 21:31 |
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| coderus | HtheB: pong :D | 21:33 |
| coderus | but i'm going to sleep now | 21:35 |
| coderus | write to private if something | 21:35 |
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| kid | kjetilho: sorry, I had installed usb-moded-connection-sharing-android-config, but forgotten about it. | 22:15 |
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