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| Tegu | hm, looks like 1.1.9 immediately stops updating the app on foreground when peeking | 06:33 |
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| Stskeeps | huh? | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:33 |
| Tegu | or what was the term for dragging from outside the screen from left/right | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | well, i get that | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | i don't understand why it'd stop updating the app | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | funny fact, nokia n9 made the framerate of apps much slower | 06:37 |
| Tegu | e.g. if I am watching a video, it stops the one on foreground and continues to play it on cover (with lower framerate apparently) | 06:38 |
| Tegu | it used to keep playing them both | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | might be codec problem related | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | some multimedia bits don't like double instances | 06:39 |
| Tegu | nah, same thing on every app. say, browser scrolling | 06:39 |
| Stskeeps | not sure, file a together.* issue | 06:39 |
| Stskeeps | how does 2.0.0 look in this instance? | 06:39 |
| Tegu | I'm not in early-access. but yea, it might have changed in 2.0.0. not necessarily a big thing, just something I noticed changed | 06:40 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:40 |
| Tegu | and probably just for saving resources, I guess | 06:41 |
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| Tegu | it looks intenional as it has a short fade-in animaion when coming back to the app | 06:43 |
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| Tegu | One thing that's weird with YTPlayer. if I have a video playing on background, it sometimes stops when minimizing another app | 06:50 |
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| Tegu | and when I go back to YTPlayer, it's on the main screen and the video is gone. I wonder why minimizing another app affects anything | 06:52 |
| Yaniel | YTPlayer tends to die roughly on every occasion and its dog | 06:53 |
| Tegu | :D | 06:55 |
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| noume | Morning all :) | 08:13 |
| the_mgt | moin | 08:14 |
| noume | I must say the 2.0 is a bit of a disappointment :( | 08:14 |
| the_mgt | so videos now do continue on the cover when you minimize the app? have to try that | 08:14 |
| noume | The quick actions is a nice feature but that's pretty much all there is to it compared to 9.28 | 08:14 |
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| noume | When using watch'me, they continue, yes. HAven't tried other apps yet | 08:15 |
| the_mgt | there are some small things, like media player now has two buttons and they are working | 08:16 |
| Tegu | the_mgt: they have continued on the cover earlier as well (always?) | 08:16 |
| the_mgt | I actually managed to accidently press the play button yesterday, for the first time since people rant about such issues | 08:16 |
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| noume | In theory they should but due to severe memory leaks in some system component they got killed pretty quickly by oom management | 08:16 |
| the_mgt | Tegu: depends on the app, but definetly not for the gallery app. was the first thing I tried, since I saw it in a presentation video | 08:17 |
| Tegu | I have managed to accidentally press all kinds of cover buttons | 08:17 |
| noume | Can't say that this is still true. 2.0 appears to be alot better in that respect | 08:17 |
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| the_mgt | I mean, it is utterly useless, but looks so cool | 08:17 |
| noume | imho it is what 9.28 should have been | 08:17 |
| Tegu | the_mgt: ah yea, not sure about the gallery app. was talking about YTPlayer (I think it had a setting) | 08:17 |
| the_mgt | I never used that | 08:18 |
| noume | Tegu: I'll try that rihght now | 08:18 |
| Tegu | also youtube videos on the browser continue as well | 08:18 |
| the_mgt | I like this quick action stuff, but would prefer if it worked on all screens, not just events view | 08:18 |
| Tegu | but yea, with cover actions you did not need to aim so precisely to the cover when switching apps | 08:19 |
| noume | Nope, gallery stops Video when going off focus | 08:19 |
| the_mgt | and I would like a quick action to toggle the usb modes and enable/disable ssh | 08:19 |
| noume | the_mgt: That would be nice! | 08:19 |
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| Nicd- | I think the quick toggles in the event view are awesome in 2.0 | 08:23 |
| Nicd- | wish they will add some API to make your own | 08:23 |
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| Yaniel | how could I ever live without lockscreen media controls | 08:31 |
| noume | I could not | 08:33 |
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| the_mgt | oddly enough, that is one thing I do not need because bt is everywhere now | 08:37 |
| the_mgt | I have media controls on the car hifi, the headphones, the pebble and some bt speakers | 08:37 |
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| Yaniel | I only use bt headphones on the road | 08:38 |
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| the_mgt | having to touch the phone for that feels like 1995 :) | 08:38 |
| Yaniel | hmm. now if SMPC had MPRIS support... | 08:38 |
| Yaniel | then I could control mpd on my desktop without getting up nor unlocking my phone | 08:38 |
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| Yaniel | that'd be like.. a remote remote | 08:39 |
| the_mgt | that's something I still can't wrap my head around | 08:39 |
| the_mgt | my living room amp has a remote app, and when I use airplay from an idevice, i can control that idevice via the amp from the remote app running on dalvik on my phone | 08:40 |
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| the_mgt | usually, something odd happens every half an hour in that case | 08:40 |
| coderus | Nicd-: do you know openrepos? We're creating toggles for ages. | 08:41 |
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| Nicd- | coderus: yes, but I wish they would add an official API so you get them without patches | 08:42 |
| coderus | Nicd-: it's official api without patches | 08:42 |
| coderus | not allowed for jolla store, but its official | 08:43 |
| coderus | there is nothing hard to create settings menu entry with some favoritable items | 08:43 |
| Yaniel | so official that it can only break at every update | 08:44 |
| coderus | Yaniel: nothing changed here since 1.0.0.5 | 08:44 |
| coderus | so, guess yourself | 08:44 |
| Yaniel | okay that's quite stable so far | 08:44 |
| coderus | my giess is: you have no idea what are you talking about | 08:44 |
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| coderus | guess* | 08:44 |
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| Nicd- | coderus: you can add them to the new 2.0 event view quick actions? | 08:48 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: dont know about quick actions | 09:52 |
| coderus | we're talked about toggles, please dont change topic :) | 09:52 |
| lainwir3d | hi o/ | 09:52 |
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| Nicd- | coderus: well there are both toggles and actions in the new event view | 10:01 |
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| r0kk3rz | Nicd-: i wondered whether the new actions were defined in .desktop files, but it seems not... | 10:03 |
| urs | Soo, another weekend, another attempt at getting XMPP to run on my jolla. | 10:04 |
| urs | I've now done https://together.jolla.com/question/4998/xmpp-other-than-google-talk-does-not-work/ with all of the certificates in the chain. Still, nothing happens. | 10:05 |
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| urs | Dear jolla people, log files for telepathy would be *so good*. | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | urs: jabber.ccc.de? | 10:07 |
| urs | yes. Also my own at jabber.nerd2nerd.org. Both have cacert certificates. | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | there's a RSA-MD5 certificate in that chain that gnutls hates with a passion | 10:08 |
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| urs | ah, is that CAcert's fault then? | 10:08 |
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| Stskeeps | not sure | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | but we're in midst of trying to fix it | 10:09 |
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| Stskeeps | https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/gnutls/merge_requests/6 | 10:09 |
| urs | ah, oh. That is excellent news. | 10:10 |
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| chem|st | o/ | 10:15 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: quick actions are new thing of 2.0 | 10:18 |
| coderus | r0kk3rz: yeah seems hardcoded | 10:18 |
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| r0kk3rz | coderus: but theres this nice part of the .desktop standard that is totally for this kind of thing :/ | 10:19 |
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| MoritzJT_ | can someone fix the orientation lock toggle? | 10:20 |
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| MoritzJT_ | it only locks between portrait or landscape but not for each reverse state | 10:21 |
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| r0kk3rz | MoritzJT_: reverse portrait is still portrait is it not? | 10:23 |
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| MoritzJT_ | i want it to lock each state. its useless otherwise | 10:24 |
| MoritzJT_ | i have free rotation patch from coderus which should be default or choosable atvleast | 10:24 |
| r0kk3rz | admittedly its an odd use of the word 'lock' | 10:24 |
| MoritzJT_ | exactly | 10:24 |
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| Nicd- | coderus: yes, I know | 10:32 |
| Nicd- | coderus: to be clear: is there an official API to make your own toggles and actions for the new event view pulldown? can you do it without patches? | 10:33 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: i said already: there are no patches for that | 10:38 |
| coderus | you do not understand what are you talking about | 10:38 |
| Nicd- | that is why I am asking | 10:38 |
| coderus | check for exmple this: https://github.com/CODeRUS/jolla-settings-powersave | 10:39 |
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| coderus | or this: https://github.com/CODeRUS/jolla-settings-tor-button | 10:41 |
| Nicd- | so the toggles in the new event pulldown are done with the same code as toggles for the settings app? | 10:42 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: it's same thing | 10:48 |
| coderus | favorites from settings are showed in events view | 10:48 |
| coderus | and it always was the same | 10:48 |
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| r0kk3rz | Nicd-: maybe the middleware isnt ready yet for community apps to take advantage | 11:05 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe its another one of those 'you need root' situations | 11:05 |
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| caitlin | is caldav sync working in 2.0? Tailing my server logs i can see my phone hitting the card urls, but never the cal ones, its like it’s just not even trying? </apologies for being a noob two years after the phone launched> | 11:46 |
| caitlin | i’m on .28 atm | 11:46 |
| caitlin | wondering whether to hack at this for days, or wait for 2.0 to get released to the unwashed | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | might be better if 2.0 changelog mentioned caldav fixes | 11:47 |
| PeperJohnny | buteo-sync-plugin-caldav] Correctly detect added persistent exception occurrences. Contributes to MER#1195 | 11:48 |
| PeperJohnny | [buteo-sync-plugin-caldav] Deletions of series should invalidate exception deletions. Contributes to MER#1195 | 11:49 |
| PeperJohnny | [buteo-sync-plugin-caldav] Treat generic CalDAV like Yahoo if address matches. Contributes to MER#1166 | 11:49 |
| PeperJohnny | that are all the fixes in the changelog | 11:49 |
| caitlin | fair | 11:52 |
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| caitlin | ooh, calendars \o/ for great justice | 12:00 |
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| pdanek | Who ordered the Kairos T-band here? | 14:28 |
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| r0kk3rz | pdanek, kimmoli said he did | 14:31 |
| pdanek | cheers | 14:32 |
| pdanek | kimmoli: I need you | 14:32 |
| pdanek | :D | 14:32 |
| kimmoli | pdanek: why? | 14:38 |
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| pdanek | kimmoli: did you receive it already? is it good? do you use it with jolla? | 14:45 |
| kimmoli | no, dunno, intention is to | 14:46 |
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| r0kk3rz | pdanek, 'some reverse engineering required' for use with jolla i think | 14:50 |
| kimmoli | i was hoping they make it with stm32, but seems now they changed to some japanese vendor, rohm, renesas, dunno | 14:50 |
| pdanek | hmmm | 14:51 |
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| AL13N | :-( | 15:13 |
| AL13N | today was the first time instead of locking, i accidentally changed theme :-( | 15:13 |
| AL13N | https://together.jolla.com/question/107042/sailfish-os-20-bring-back-screenlock-when-swiping-from-top-at-homescreen-or-at-least-optional/ | 15:18 |
| Yaniel | I usually swipe down and then press the power button | 15:19 |
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| nh1402 | how about having two actions, one swipe down from right side locks screen and left side shows the ambiance menu | 15:26 |
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| nh1402 | and have the same kind of thing for left and right swipes, bottom half goes back to home screen and top half goes to next/previous app | 15:29 |
| kimmoli | no | 15:30 |
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| cehteh | btw is git-annex working on the jolla? | 15:32 |
| kimmoli | no | 15:32 |
| HtheB | I had a very nice glitch on 2.0.10 | 15:32 |
| cehteh | no haskell platform? | 15:32 |
| HtheB | I wish this glitch was ALWAYS there :( | 15:32 |
| HtheB | Too bad I only had it once | 15:33 |
| HtheB | the cover action was still alive on an Android app | 15:33 |
| HtheB | (so when minimized, it didn't paused, it was a live screen :D) | 15:33 |
| HtheB | I don't know why Jolla isn't doing this... (Selecting in the Apps Settings which app should stay alive when minimized) | 15:34 |
| cehteh | prolly because of battery concerns? | 15:34 |
| HtheB | cehteh: thats why you can pick your own desired app | 15:34 |
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| HtheB | which one you want to have to stay alive | 15:34 |
| cehteh | i prolly like that idea | 15:34 |
| HtheB | for example: YouTube | 15:34 |
| HtheB | when you minimize, it will pause it :( | 15:35 |
| cehteh | why dont you file a wish? | 15:35 |
| HtheB | Jolla doesn't care about tjc believe me.. | 15:35 |
| cehteh | some timeout would be nice or and/or only pause when not on display | 15:35 |
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| cehteh | tjc? | 15:36 |
| HtheB | together.jolla.com | 15:36 |
| cehteh | not? | 15:36 |
| HtheB | MANY awesome ideas and things, are just ignored | 15:36 |
| cehteh | uhm | 15:36 |
| HtheB | things like "Bring back Swipe to lock" | 15:36 |
| cehteh | lack of manpower? | 15:36 |
| HtheB | I guess so | 15:36 |
| cehteh | would be nice when they open up more | 15:37 |
| HtheB | but the bug showed to me that it IS possible to achieve what I want :P | 15:37 |
| r0kk3rz | the noise to signal ratio leaves a bit to be desired on tjc really | 15:37 |
| cehteh | somteimes i wonder if android would be the more open system | 15:37 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz: yeah | 15:37 |
| cehteh | would be bad if thats true | 15:37 |
| HtheB | cehteh: here is something that you can try out: | 15:37 |
| cehteh | i dont have the device yet | 15:37 |
| HtheB | open an android app, minimize it without leaving your finger off the screen (peaking) | 15:37 |
| HtheB | you can see it's minimized, and STILL running | 15:38 |
| HtheB | ah ok | 15:38 |
| HtheB | well, tbh... Android is ironically more open | 15:38 |
| HtheB | (talking about AOSP) | 15:38 |
| HtheB | https://source.android.com/ | 15:39 |
| cehteh | yeah | 15:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | android is more open as in code | 15:41 |
| r0kk3rz | sailfish is more open as in developed | 15:41 |
| pdanek | r0kk3rz: well, security-wise, everything proprietary is considered unsecure | 15:42 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz: open as in code < that means you have more options and freedom | 15:42 |
| pdanek | because you can't trust anyone | 15:42 |
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| r0kk3rz | so i guess it depends on what you want from your openess | 15:42 |
| Infinity653 | morning | 15:42 |
| cehteh | hi Infinity653 :) | 15:42 |
| Infinity653 | hi cehteh | 15:42 |
| r0kk3rz | HtheB, however, android is developed in private with regular code drops | 15:43 |
| pdanek | but basically even if you get the source code and compile by yourself, you need to trust the compiler you use :D | 15:43 |
| r0kk3rz | so you can maintain your own fork, but contributing to upstream? yeah.... | 15:43 |
| Infinity653 | anyone interested in a used Jolla Phone? | 15:43 |
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| pdanek | Infinity653: put it on talk.maemo.org in buy / sell and someone might be interested | 15:43 |
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| Infinity653 | bought it in March 2015, used it about two weeks | 15:43 |
| Infinity653 | looks like it'n new :D | 15:44 |
| pdanek | Infinity653: eveyrone is expecting Intex device soon :D | 15:44 |
| Infinity653 | pdanek: might be an idea, maybe my N900 Times account is still active :D | 15:44 |
| r0kk3rz | sailfish uses a lot of openly developed stuff, which you CAN contribute to without having to fork | 15:44 |
| pdanek | I actually fly to India in 2 weeks and for 2 weeks, but I guess it won't get released so soon :( | 15:44 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz: many things are missing :( | 15:44 |
| HtheB | even simple things like: I can't connect my WiFi to hotspots | 15:45 |
| r0kk3rz | HtheB, i can | 15:45 |
| HtheB | no you cant | 15:45 |
| HtheB | Fremantle and Harmattan can connect to mobile hotspots | 15:45 |
| HtheB | Jolla doesn't even show them | 15:45 |
| HtheB | I want to use my N950 as hotspot device | 15:46 |
| tbr | you are misunderstanding something | 15:46 |
| tbr | what you call mobile hotspot, is a hotspot based on a wifi peer to peer mode network | 15:46 |
| HtheB | yes, thats what i mean | 15:47 |
| HtheB | p2p network | 15:47 |
| tbr | almost no devices nowadays support p2p mode | 15:47 |
| HtheB | all my android devices do that ¬¬ | 15:47 |
| HtheB | hell, even iPhone does it :/ | 15:47 |
| HtheB | i dont know under which rock you live, lol | 15:47 |
| tbr | well fuck you too then | 15:47 |
| Nicd- | why is there a p2p hotspot thing? why isn't just normal wifi used? | 15:48 |
| HtheB | Nicd-: when you use your N9 as a hotspot, it's p2p | 15:48 |
| Nicd- | but why? | 15:48 |
| Tegu | Nicd-: if you don't have a hotspot and just want to connect devices? | 15:48 |
| Nicd- | what is the advantage? | 15:48 |
| r0kk3rz | Nicd-, adhoc used to be the way you would handle such things, but now you dont really | 15:48 |
| Nicd- | Tegu: you could still make one device an "AP" | 15:49 |
| r0kk3rz | mainly due to zero advantage and extra complexity in setup | 15:49 |
| HtheB | I really wish Jolla still implemented this :/ | 15:49 |
| r0kk3rz | but maybe the adapter in the n9 cant do ap-mode | 15:49 |
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| r0kk3rz | HtheB, its likely not a jolla thing... but a hardware thing or a connman thing | 15:49 |
| Tegu | well yea, true. (I have never used the ad-hoc version despite seeing a setting for it in some device) | 15:49 |
| Nicd- | I never understood the point of ad hoc wifi | 15:49 |
| tbr | ad hoc mode was always quite shakey and since google mandated true infrastructure mode for AP in 4.0 every driver suddenly supported that | 15:50 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz: I remember that it's software, not hardware | 15:50 |
| tbr | so no ad-hoc crap anymore unless you use really old devices | 15:50 |
| HtheB | tbr: too bad we still love our beloved Maemo devices, eh ;) | 15:50 |
| HtheB | :P | 15:50 |
| r0kk3rz | so long as i can connect my jTab to my jPhone hotspot, i'm happy | 15:51 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz: https://together.jolla.com/question/28818/request-wlan-ad-hoc-mode/ | 15:53 |
| HtheB | chem|st told me this before: connman was "patched" to unsupport ad-hoc for some reason | 15:54 |
| HtheB | source of this conversation: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23jollamobile/%23jollamobile.2014-11-27.log.html | 15:54 |
| HtheB | this is almost a year ago | 15:54 |
| HtheB | https://gitorious.org/connman/vudentz-clone/commit/cd9d9e6 | 15:55 |
| HtheB | too bad gitorious is down at the moment | 15:55 |
| HtheB | So, again: it's NOT hardware! | 15:55 |
| r0kk3rz | HtheB, maybe because it didnt work very well on the jphone | 15:55 |
| HtheB | then it's badly coded :P | 15:55 |
| r0kk3rz | HtheB, gitorious is dead isnt it? got bought by gitlab | 15:55 |
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| HtheB | r0kk3rz: it's dead, but they are transferring everything to Archive.org | 15:56 |
| HtheB | so it takes some time untill you could see the commit | 15:56 |
| r0kk3rz | anyway 'badly coded' may not be jolla, might be the BSP | 15:56 |
| HtheB | anyway, I hope a Jolla developer could enlighten us, or at least give us some information how we can easily see and connect to adhoc network | 15:56 |
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| Stskeeps | connman hates adhox netqorks | 16:01 |
| HtheB | Stskeeps: any idea what does harmattan use? | 16:02 |
| Stskeeps | something closed source | 16:04 |
| Stskeeps | icd | 16:04 |
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| HtheB | is the Hotspot mode from Jolla Adhoc? or AP? | 16:05 |
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| HtheB | because if it's AdHoc, it means that Jolla Tablet wont see it either.. | 16:06 |
| Stskeeps | ap | 16:06 |
| HtheB | Thanks for the clarification | 16:07 |
| HtheB | what about "iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc essid AdHoc key 1234567890" and "ifconfig wlan0 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ? | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | maybe works but connman will be mad | 16:09 |
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| HtheB | That shouldn't be problem. I thought we are unlike :-) | 16:09 |
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| Tegu | see: all your other devices support ad-hoc but jolla doesn't! #unlike | 16:11 |
| * HtheB slaps Tegu | 16:11 | |
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| Tegu | sry :( | 16:11 |
| HtheB | :D | 16:11 |
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| HtheB | Stskeeps: I have got a glitch on my homescreen today, which was imo very useful | 16:13 |
| HtheB | one of the covers with an Android app was still alive | 16:15 |
| HtheB | (it only happened once) | 16:15 |
| HtheB | I wish there was some settings inside de APPS Settings of Jolla to turn on this feature | 16:15 |
| HtheB | So when minimizing, the app will still continue as it's NOT minimized | 16:16 |
| HtheB | of course this can drain the battery faster, but it's the users own choice to enable it. | 16:16 |
| Tegu | yea, that would be useful | 16:18 |
| HtheB | The Glitch showed that technically it will be possible. Also, if you swipe away the app and do NOT let your finger off the screen (peaking) it also shows that the cover is still alive. Untill you let go your finger :( | 16:19 |
| HtheB | So, I really wish this killer feature would be implemented | 16:20 |
| giucam | only one android app can be active at a time though | 16:20 |
| giucam | so you can't have two covers both active | 16:20 |
| Tegu | :/ but that would still be more than 0 | 16:21 |
| Tegu | but inconsistent, yes | 16:21 |
| HtheB | exactly | 16:21 |
| HtheB | I would like to open up the YouTube app, and listen to something while browsing.... | 16:21 |
| HtheB | unlike now... you are FORCED to have the screen turned on | 16:21 |
| Tegu | ah yea, suddenly I remembered that all the android applications used to be under one cover | 16:21 |
| HtheB | which eats even more battery | 16:21 |
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| HtheB | giucam: technically, there are apps that lets you run other apps in windows | 16:26 |
| HtheB | (true multitasking if you ask me) | 16:26 |
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| HtheB | Jolla Alien Dalvik might do something like that, which could let you run multiple apps even on the cover action :) | 16:28 |
| HtheB | Sure, that might be harder to implement, but it IS doable :) | 16:28 |
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| HtheB | ' | 16:37 |
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| shanttu | cracked the display and bought a second hand unit as a replacement. I'm trying to make a full backup as instructed here https://together.jolla.com/question/81832/full-phone-backup-guide/ | 16:40 |
| shanttu | but jolla doesn't recognice sdcard | 16:40 |
| shanttu | tried with two different cards | 16:41 |
| coderus | login to recovery, mount sdcard manually | 16:42 |
| coderus | and make dd backup to sdcard, and recover dd backup from sdcard. most full backup ever. | 16:42 |
| shanttu | coderus, yep thinking about that as well | 16:43 |
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| pdanek | https://www.fairphone.com/2015/10/22/jolla-community-working-on-sailfish-os-for-the-fairphone-2/ | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | ooold | 17:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:41 |
| HtheB | pretty old indeed :P | 17:41 |
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| nh1402 | how modular is it?, can you change the display outright, say from the lcd to an amoled panel? | 17:46 |
| locusf | shanttu: or pipe to desktop using netcat | 17:47 |
| locusf | the entire partition is ¨13G | 17:48 |
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| r0kk3rz | nh1402, i dont think its that modular | 17:58 |
| r0kk3rz | best not to think of it as 'modular' anyway, because its not really | 17:58 |
| r0kk3rz | its just not soldered together | 17:58 |
| nh1402 | why don't they market it as the most repairable smartphone then | 17:59 |
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| nh1402 | modular gives people (like me) the wrong idea | 17:59 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah their marketing people arent really that tech savvy | 17:59 |
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| r0kk3rz | the non-techs i met in london, i knew more about their phone than they did | 18:00 |
| r0kk3rz | that said, the screen looked like it was just the laminated panel, and nothing else | 18:00 |
| r0kk3rz | so as long as whatever screen controllery whatever that it connects to can handle a different type of screen, then maybe | 18:01 |
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| nh1402 | sounds like it uses an adapter from the panels normal output to whatever the modular system is | 18:02 |
| nh1402 | I wouldn't have thought a high res display would natively output with that connector | 18:02 |
| r0kk3rz | nh1402, ultimately they've just broken normal interconnect pins with pogo-pins | 18:02 |
| r0kk3rz | *broken out | 18:03 |
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| nh1402 | how does the TOH work, does that also use pogo-pins | 18:03 |
| r0kk3rz | rather than an ara type thing of designing an agnostic interconnect | 18:03 |
| nh1402 | it would be ridiculous if you could merge the two phones together | 18:04 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah TOH uses pogos, but the interface is i2c | 18:04 |
| nh1402 | i2c is whats normally found on the phone right, for like the sensors and stuff | 18:04 |
| nh1402 | or not | 18:05 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah it is, just not normally exposed via pins | 18:06 |
| r0kk3rz | the FP2s internal usb-host port has a lot of potential though | 18:06 |
| r0kk3rz | more so than i2c | 18:06 |
| nh1402 | for pc components? | 18:07 |
| r0kk3rz | ie. you could probably build an mSATA to USB board, and have a 256GB ssd in your phone | 18:07 |
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| r0kk3rz | and it wouldnt even be that chunky, maybe extra 5mm thickness | 18:08 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz: upvote please :) | 18:09 |
| HtheB | https://together.jolla.com/question/116585/option-to-select-which-android-apps-shouldnt-be-paused-when-minimized/ | 18:09 |
| pdanek | HtheB: Twitch, Youtube | 18:10 |
| pdanek | We have Sailfish ports though | 18:10 |
| r0kk3rz | HtheB, i think they're already fixing the multimedia issues with android | 18:10 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz: its not fixable with certain apps | 18:11 |
| nh1402 | that would be ridiculous | 18:11 |
| nh1402 | one of those new enterprise grade 16TB SSD in the phone | 18:11 |
| HtheB | just do people like me a favor and upvote it :P You won't lose anything with it | 18:12 |
| nh1402 | if people do me a favour and help me bring android apps to ported devices then a system can be created for that too | 18:13 |
| r0kk3rz | nh1402, yeah not sure about that big, the mSATA/m2 ssd are really tiny, big capacity, and fast | 18:18 |
| r0kk3rz | the smaller boards are 22mm x 42mm | 18:18 |
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| r0kk3rz | anyone running archlinux on a laptop? | 19:07 |
| spider-mario | yeah | 19:07 |
| playforvoices | Netrunner Rolling here (Archlinux based) | 19:07 |
| Tegu | woot, the email app off jolla phone suddenly does not show the contents of two emails | 19:08 |
| Tegu | and does not let download the attatchment of one | 19:08 |
| pdanek | Guys | 19:09 |
| Tegu | this happened after I tried to download the attachment but it did not seem to succeed | 19:09 |
| pdanek | Give me some hope | 19:09 |
| Yaniel | I'm almost out myself :( | 19:09 |
| pdanek | Do you think I have a chance of getting Intex Sailfish phone in India between November 7 and 18? | 19:09 |
| pdanek | Or it's too soon? | 19:10 |
| Tegu | me too, I don't have spare hope :\ barely have any for myself even | 19:10 |
| Tegu | november could be quite soon if there is no confirmation of anything yet? or hm, I may have missed something | 19:13 |
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| r0kk3rz | what do you guys use for power management? | 19:20 |
| r0kk3rz | i think its using systemd stuff by default | 19:20 |
| r0kk3rz | im trying to figure out what is handling my power button event, so i can change it from suspend to hibernate | 19:22 |
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| phlixi | mce | 19:23 |
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| phlixi | r0kk3rz mce-tools | 19:24 |
| r0kk3rz | phlixi, this is about arch, not sailfish | 19:25 |
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| phlixi | well, then i have no idea, i am an windows :-) | 19:25 |
| phlixi | on* | 19:25 |
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| r0kk3rz | i think i might need to reboot so that logind takes its new config | 19:26 |
| spiiroin | r0kk3rz: assuming there is powerkey evdev -> check with lsof who has it open? | 19:26 |
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