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| HtheB | Good night guys :) | 01:14 |
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| HtheB | I am still wondering why TeamViewer is *NOT* working on Jolla :( | 01:15 |
| HtheB | it crashes right after you try to login on a remote desktop | 01:15 |
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| greenit | hi, i've read that there is a "patch" called "eventsview", which adds controls for wifi & co to the event-screen. I have jolla 1.1.9.28 installed, does it work with this version? | 06:44 |
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| Nicd- | greenit: I don't know but if you upgrade to 2.0.0.10 which is in EA, it has that builtin | 06:49 |
| greenit | Nicd-: ah, okay. Then I'll just wait until this version comes to the normal release channel. Thanks for the info. :) | 06:50 |
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| TMavica | Anyone notice in changelog, it mentioned Jolla '1' ?? | 07:49 |
| coderus | it always was Jolla1 | 07:49 |
| TMavica | Why it said 1, previous version havent mention 1 | 07:50 |
| Stskeeps | TMavica: we started calling it jolla1 ages ago | 07:50 |
| TMavica | Where is 2 then? Lol | 07:50 |
| Stskeeps | well, let's see | 07:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:51 |
| TMavica | When its ready | 07:51 |
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| TMavica | My first one Jolla coming dead in its life.. | 07:54 |
| tbr | TMavica: before we start worrying about a jolla2, the tablet needs to actually start shipping. No I don't count 170 odd people as "shipping" | 07:54 |
| Yaniel | I'm totally getting that Jolla2 + Half-Life 3 bundle | 07:54 |
| Tomo | :D | 07:54 |
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| TMavica | Jolla dont drop price in here... | 07:55 |
| Tegu | ooh, half life 3 running on jolla 2 | 07:55 |
| tbr | Tegu: with 60fps, probably | 07:55 |
| tbr | because 60/20 = 3, so it's confirmed! | 07:56 |
| Tegu | 60fps is yesterday, 144fps is where it's at | 07:56 |
| tbr | 12.1 jiggafps | 07:56 |
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| * tbr will order his jolla2 as a bundle, with self-lacing nike's, a hover board and a hover conversion for my vehicle | 07:58 | |
| lainwir3d | o/ | 07:58 |
| lainwir3d | why all the talk about the Jolla 2 ? | 07:58 |
| lainwir3d | Has there been something announced ? :o | 07:58 |
| tbr | no | 07:58 |
| tbr | that's why | 07:58 |
| pavi | stop dreaming of J2 . Jolla is no more into hardware business . It takes a lot to manufacture a phone. | 07:59 |
| tbr | people like to imagine | 07:59 |
| lainwir3d | lol | 07:59 |
| Tegu | imagine all the jollas.. | 07:59 |
| tbr | I'll already be happy if I get my jolla tablet, which seems unlikely as I didn't bend over and buy the 64GB upgrade | 07:59 |
| inz | i can has dream? | 07:59 |
| pavi | After the split into hardware and software , all we heard was the hardware one will take care of customer support for J1 and tablet. | 08:00 |
| tbr | "there is no jolla2" *bendsobjectintoapretzel* | 08:00 |
| tbr | their hw company is like a bad bank | 08:00 |
| Tegu | will it bend? | 08:00 |
| tbr | it might even blend | 08:00 |
| lainwir3d | well, much speculation but the thing is nobody apart from Jolla knows what's going on with the hardware "department". | 08:01 |
| pavi | Better choice would be to get a Fairphone with sailfish os . https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6731703 | 08:01 |
| lainwir3d | So I wouldn't yet forget about a Jolla 2 | 08:01 |
| pavi | ^ the above link was from jolla official | 08:01 |
| locusf | tbr: I bent over and got 64GB, then another 32GB model, its just that I was 5 hours late from the first wave so Ihave yet to receive anything :) | 08:01 |
| Armadillo | to be honest Jolla shouldn't spend more time in producing own devices, there is so much good hardware available on the market, they should conecntrate on partnerships with Fairphone and others to spread Sailfish and should only invest time in developing SailfishOS, just my 2 cents | 08:03 |
| Tegu | rare moment, someone links to diaspora | 08:03 |
| tbr | so far it looks suspiciously like no 32GB model was shipped. there are a few people who didn't get theirs in first wave and at least two or three said they ordered 32G | 08:03 |
| phlixi | HtheB_: i think i remember having testet vnc once and it worked | 08:04 |
| pavi | Tegu: I should say rare moment , some one takes a Jolla phone out of his pocket :P Both Diaspora* and Jolla are gems :) | 08:04 |
| Tegu | well yea, true | 08:04 |
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| phlixi | well, i ordered within 63 minutes after the camopain started and i wasnt invited to order my 64gb one... they just sent out a few samples... | 08:06 |
| pavi | All the latest announcements from Jolla are partnerships with other companies . you guys still think there are resources left (after the split ) in the small company to "make a phone " ? | 08:06 |
| phlixi | actually what happened so far is that everytime time promised delivery date came up, they posted something on the blog "it will come in one month", | 08:06 |
| phlixi | ....and then, exactly when the month is over, a new post came up " hey, its only a month left" | 08:07 |
| Tegu | jolla has it's own time, just like valve time | 08:07 |
| lainwir3d | well, I have my tablet and I'm pretty much happy. :-) | 08:08 |
| * lainwir3d is egoistic | 08:08 | |
| phlixi | of course its everytime formulated in a way you can not argue, because they actually did not say "you will receive it" but they always make you think they said it | 08:08 |
| tbr | It's October 23rd, if you look at their last post about timelines, then it looks already very tight for the timeline of the first proper wave | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | Tegu: we're like, in a totally different dimension | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:08 |
| phlixi | ...thats by the way the difference to dukenukem and half life... those havent been promised | 08:08 |
| lainwir3d | oh by the way Stskeeps, indeed performance looks much better (in a subjective kind of way) | 08:09 |
| Yaniel | I wish I hadn't had so many situations where a tablet would have been oh so useful during hte last two months... | 08:09 |
| lainwir3d | apps starts faster, qml animations doesn't slow down without any warnings | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | lainwir3d: good | 08:09 |
| lainwir3d | so far so good, for the few hours I've used it yesterday evening | 08:09 |
| phlixi | tbr: it should have bbeen arived in mai... in mai they said, june, in june they saif august in august they said "here, the update, it will take one month more" at the moment we think it will come nov/dec... | 08:10 |
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| locusf | as we say in Finland "Hyvää kannattaa odottaa" -> "Good things are worth waiting for" | 08:10 |
| phlixi | (and of course no one paid for half live 3) | 08:10 |
| tbr | phlixi: well, my expectations are currently that I'll get my tablet somewhen next year or never (aka jolla-hw company goes bust) | 08:10 |
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| Pawky | Wow! the jolla support is really great :-) | 08:11 |
| tbr | anyone knows if it is worth to pursue a defaulted company in finland over 200€? probably not worth it due to cost and administrative overhead? | 08:12 |
| phlixi | tbr: same here, i just dont like the monthly post "you will get it in one month" to me it seems like a usual practice at jolla to rise hopes they will not fullfill. and for several parts i have feeling it is on purpose | 08:12 |
| Pawky | tbr: why would you like to do so? | 08:12 |
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| phlixi | its never worth to sue someone for 200eur/$/whatever if you value your own time more than a dollar per hour | 08:13 |
| lainwir3d | Come on guys, some people actually received it, so it's going forward. Stop negativity :P | 08:13 |
| tbr | Pawky: I'm entertaining the thought. If I'd want to bother pursuing that if they go bust | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: at least in .dk it's about submitting a claim towards the carcass of the company | 08:13 |
| lainwir3d | And I really believe they'll start big shipping soon | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: but not sueing | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | i think | 08:13 |
| tbr | phlixi: yes, excluding the the own time aspect | 08:13 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: I said pursue, not 'sue' as in file a suit | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: yeah | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | hence the submission which i presume is a lot cheaper | 08:14 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: which is filing a claim with the bancruptcy court or whatever | 08:14 |
| Pawky | well, I presume you will be last in line if wanting your €200 compared to taxes, banks etc... | 08:14 |
| phlixi | lainwir3d i hate the negativity mayself, but it looks really suspicious afterwards | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: the interesting thing is that bankruptcy court isn't involved, a lawyer gets put in charge of the dead carcass of the company | 08:15 |
| tbr | although the question is, which entity did run the IGG campaign? Jolla Oy? or the HongKong entity? did it get legally converted to the jolla hw company? | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | and you submit to him | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: hong kong | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | IGG and finland doesn't match | 08:15 |
| tbr | right, then the answer is: no chance to even pursue that. prohibitive overhead. | 08:15 |
| Pawky | Stskeeps: well, but I assume they still have to prioritize | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | Pawky: sure | 08:16 |
| tbr | yes, and small claims come last, if there is anything left | 08:16 |
| Pawky | first to lend, first to get... and if its taxes, it preceds all | 08:16 |
| tbr | first come the largest debtors | 08:16 |
| Pawky | no.. first tax | 08:16 |
| tbr | yes, state entities are completely above that | 08:16 |
| Pawky | then largest... then probably oldest claim... | 08:16 |
| phlixi | its not unusual to be the same (largest debt and tax) :-) | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: looks like same deal though, proof of debt sent to trustee | 08:17 |
| Pawky | on the bright sid, i got my phone back from repairs today :-) | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | Creditors must complete a Proof of Debt Form in order to prove for any debt contracted by the bankrupt and submit it to the Provisional Trustee/Trustee together with any supporting documentary evidence and a non-refundable filing fee of $35. The filing fee is waived in the case of claims for wages/salary or debts not exceeding $250. At the general meeting of creditors, only proving creditors have the right to vote on the appointment of : | 08:17 |
| Pawky | if they will be going bust, that would certainly not have happened | 08:17 |
| Pawky | ahh.. wages, comes after tax :-) | 08:18 |
| Pawky | tax man, employees, the rest | 08:18 |
| phlixi | i am scared by the details Stskeeps has on this... this might mean we are closer to that as we might think right now :D | 08:18 |
| tbr | Pawky: depends™. companies can operate seemingly just fine from the outside and then BOOM next day everything folds | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | phlixi: i'm an information vampire, i google things if i don't know the answer. | 08:18 |
| phlixi | :-) | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't have anything to do with reality | 08:18 |
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| Pawky | but, compared to other companies, they already had the money before creating the device... | 08:19 |
| Pawky | so, it cant be lack of funds. ' | 08:19 |
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| ZiNk | Damn, and here I am, just got my jolla phone. Damn, hope jolla can survive. | 08:20 |
| phlixi | Pawky: i hope you do not actually believe, that those few euros are enough to keep the companie(s) alive... they sold a few thousand devices and have to pay 100 people... do the math | 08:20 |
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| Stskeeps | phlixi: a few euros can buy a lot of ramen | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | :p | 08:21 |
| lainwir3d | and coffee | 08:21 |
| lainwir3d | and ramen + coffee = extras hours of work | 08:21 |
| * Stskeeps ponders going out for steak | 08:22 | |
| ZiNk | You get what you pay for. | 08:22 |
| phlixi | what is "ramen"? | 08:23 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: enjoy, after all, I paid for it. ;-) | 08:23 |
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| Stskeeps | tbr: :P | 08:23 |
| Sail0r | http://reviewjolla.blogspot.de/2015/10/system-update-sailfish-os-20-saimaa.html#more | 08:24 |
| caitlinb | I’m on diaspora :P | 08:24 |
| locusf | me too as of 12 minutes :p | 08:25 |
| locusf | have been putting it off for far too long | 08:25 |
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| Tegu | I made an account to diaspora when it was in the limited mode (you got an invite to mail). never really used it nor do I remember the account | 08:26 |
| caitlinb | i run a flipping pod :/ | 08:26 |
| pavi | Guys anyone coming back to diaspora , please use the german pods like geraspora or diasp.eu | 08:27 |
| Nicd- | what is it flipping? | 08:27 |
| pavi | Dont go for Joindiaspora , its all exhausted and dead. | 08:27 |
| locusf | Nicd-: flipping, as in british way of saying "bloody" | 08:27 |
| locusf | just nicer | 08:27 |
| pavi | caitlinb: whats your diaspora id ? | 08:28 |
| Nicd- | locusf: yes, I was joking | 08:28 |
| Pawky | is there any sane way to skip the introductory thing on the phone? | 08:28 |
| locusf | Nicd-: ah, /s could of course be cool :) | 08:28 |
| locusf | Pawky: touch top left corner, continue touching courners clockwise | 08:28 |
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| Pawky | that doesnt work... | 08:29 |
| Tegu | just hit the power button? | 08:29 |
| Tegu | quickly | 08:29 |
| Armadillo | works for me | 08:29 |
| Tegu | not sure if the power button works on the first time | 08:30 |
| Tegu | at least it works when running the teaching app again | 08:30 |
| Nicd- | locusf: I leave that to the reader | 08:30 |
| Pawky | but not first time :-( | 08:31 |
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| Pawky | shold the screen go black when restoring from backup? | 08:33 |
| Pawky | getting the feeling my phone just turned into Schroedingers cat... | 08:34 |
| phlixi | then do not open the box and it might still be alive | 08:35 |
| Pawky | its a very black box.... | 08:35 |
| lainwir3d | or a black cat ? | 08:35 |
| lainwir3d | a big black cat inside a tiny white box | 08:35 |
| Pawky | thats why its so hard to se if its alive... | 08:36 |
| Pawky | black is the new orange... | 08:36 |
| locusf | Pawky: lemme guess, patches? | 08:36 |
| Pawky | hmm... you mean the firmware is newer than the backup? | 08:37 |
| Pawky | or vice versa? | 08:37 |
| Pawky | ah.. its alive! :-) | 08:38 |
| Pawky | my cat is alive | 08:38 |
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| Pawky | duh? doesnt the mail client come as standard in the phone | 08:39 |
| phlixi | nope | 08:40 |
| phlixi | iirc even the clock app comes from the store (allthough clock as well as mail is a "jolla app" | 08:41 |
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| Pawky | a new upate available :-) | 08:48 |
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| Pawky | (or atleast for me there is...) | 08:51 |
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| nh1402 | wait Jolla is bankrupt, what happens now then a lawyer comes in to sell of what they can to reduce the debt as much as possible and then shuts it down? | 10:00 |
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| Nicd- | who said Jolla is bankrupt? | 10:01 |
| ggabriel | </troll> | 10:01 |
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| nh1402 | i thought someone mentioned it earlier | 10:01 |
| ggabriel | wait google is bankrupt | 10:01 |
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| lainwir3d | banks are bankrupt | 10:01 |
| Nicd- | but yes, when a company goes bankrupt they usually try to sell as much as they can to reduce the debt and then shut down operations | 10:01 |
| Nicd- | nh1402: Jolla is not bankrupt | 10:01 |
| ggabriel | mcdonald's is bankrupt | 10:01 |
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| nh1402 | oh must have misread the log then | 10:02 |
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| ggabriel | Nicd- is right | 10:02 |
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| ggabriel | they also get assigned an administrator who gets first dibs in their bills getting paid for doing that | 10:02 |
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| lainwir3d | so, cheap Jolla tablets ? | 10:03 |
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| lainwir3d | awesome | 10:03 |
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| ggabriel | and phones :) | 10:03 |
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| lainwir3d | :D | 10:03 |
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| ggabriel | altho... nokia has been pretty low and yet a new n900 is still 200 gbp | 10:03 |
| nh1402 | well Nicd- just said they aren't bankrupt, so don't get your hopes up | 10:03 |
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| nh1402 | while I'm still here would anyone like to help with android app support for ported devices? | 10:06 |
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| ggabriel | i'd love to, but i guess i need a) a ported device; b) time | 10:07 |
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| nh1402 | here's the logcat log if anyone has any ideas why zygote/system server crashes amongst other things and have potential fixes, then let me know | 10:08 |
| nh1402 | https://bpaste.net/show/86c3aa148d7f | 10:08 |
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| Pawky | has no one still written a firewall gui like Droidwall? Am I the only one who would like to limit which apps get to use the network etc? | 10:15 |
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| Pawky | One would really like to limit what all the android apps are doing ina Xprivate and Droidwall fascion | 10:17 |
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| ggabriel | Pawky: open a tjc for that? there are plans for selinux in the roadmap, maybe that'll help | 10:18 |
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| nh1402 | i was going to say that if alien dalvik updates to android 6.0 then you could switch off things like internet access for individual apps, but I don't think you can access the android settings in alien dalvik | 10:18 |
| nh1402 | you could actually do it in custom roms like paranoid android | 10:19 |
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| Pawky | custom roms...? for jolla? :-) | 10:19 |
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| nh1402 | custom android roms | 10:19 |
| flux | this is the nth time release notes mentions phonehook and patchmanager, why can't the upgrade just do it automatically.. ;-) | 10:20 |
| Pawky | I just wish Xprivacy and Droidwall was available... | 10:20 |
| ggabriel | flux: because next you'll have a patch manager 2.0 and the upgrade won't know about that? any hack is the user's responsibility anyway | 10:20 |
| nh1402 | well if someone helps me with getting android apps to work on ported devices, then you could theoretically install xposed modules and custom roms (which have caf kernels) | 10:21 |
| flux | ggabriel, well, the user probably won't either | 10:21 |
| flux | ggabriel, likely the folks internally at jolla also test this, some using stuff from the repos, which is how they found the issue in the first place | 10:21 |
| ggabriel | they'll learn when they have to factory reset and lose all their data ;) | 10:21 |
| TemeV | flux: actually, phonehook issue was detected in the field | 10:22 |
| flux | ggabriel, and then there is the group of people that know that they should remove it, but forget or accidentally press the start or something. | 10:22 |
| ggabriel | flux: jolla publicly said that they do _not_ test releases with external patches | 10:22 |
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| flux | ggabriel, well, there's testing and there's testing. do they only test the release in the lab? or push it to their employees? | 10:22 |
| ggabriel | it is safe to upgrade with certai npatches if you know what you're doing | 10:22 |
| flux | and do such employees never use non-repo apps? | 10:22 |
| ggabriel | flux: you need a known baseline | 10:23 |
| ggabriel | especially one you have some control on | 10:23 |
| TemeV | Jolla has no way to test all the carbage in open repos | 10:23 |
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| flux | temev, obviously not. but this is the list of two packages they have known for a year or so. | 10:24 |
| ggabriel | having said all that, you could put a hook in the upgrade process where patch manager and friends listen for an upgrade event, uninstall everything and so on | 10:24 |
| TemeV | flux: yes, they mention those, because they know those have caused trouble | 10:24 |
| ggabriel | that is probably a cleaner approach, and the responsibility would be with those that customise rather than the os itself | 10:24 |
| flux | I think it would be maybe 50 lines of code to do a dirty "if package X is installed, show a red text and disable the upgrade button" feature. | 10:25 |
| ggabriel | TemeV has a point... all these notes about switching stuff off are there due to field discovery | 10:25 |
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| ggabriel | flux: but how do you know X? | 10:25 |
| Pawky | duh?... shouldnt a restore actually restore all your e-mail accounts and such??? | 10:25 |
| flux | ggabriel, well how do they know to write about it to the release notes? | 10:26 |
| flux | ggabriel, _exactly_ the same way! | 10:26 |
| ggabriel | flux: field testing | 10:26 |
| TemeV | flux: they caused trouble in previous updates | 10:26 |
| ggabriel | flux: you are suggesting that jolla constantly updates X based on user experience | 10:26 |
| ggabriel | which is an approach, I won't argue | 10:26 |
| ggabriel | I like the hook better | 10:26 |
| ggabriel | but ultimately it's the user's responsibility | 10:26 |
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| flux | well, this is now being field tested, by the early birds. | 10:27 |
| flux | next it will become an actual release, pushed to everyone | 10:27 |
| flux | and it will still have the same text, "you'll likely mess it up, if you have these" | 10:27 |
| flux | instead of just solving it technically ;) | 10:27 |
| TemeV | yes, and there might come up something new, which they will (propably) add those to the list also | 10:28 |
| ggabriel | but you can't resolve it consistently | 10:28 |
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| flux | temev, you make it sounds sooo tedious. won't they update the release notes as well to reflect the fact? | 10:28 |
| TemeV | flux: what do you mean? | 10:28 |
| flux | the fact is also that there aren't going to be so many packages that are going to break the upgrade | 10:29 |
| flux | only these kind of things that go 'below' the surface | 10:29 |
| TemeV | well, patches alone are quite many packages | 10:29 |
| flux | they have a certain pattern in the package names,no? | 10:29 |
| TemeV | maybe | 10:29 |
| ggabriel | not necessarily | 10:29 |
| flux | and some base patch manager package? | 10:29 |
| TemeV | there is nothing to guarantee that | 10:30 |
| ggabriel | not necessarily either (e.g., openrepos) | 10:30 |
| ggabriel | so it isn't trivial | 10:30 |
| TemeV | openrepos doesn't really have rules that devs have to obey | 10:30 |
| flux | well, it's suggested even in the openrepos, isn't it? I haven't actually used patchmanager yet. | 10:30 |
| flux | ie. when a person wants to do new patch, they probably look first the current best practices | 10:30 |
| TemeV | suggested maybe, not forced | 10:30 |
| flux | I wasn't suggesting the safety would be fool proof. as you so clearly have mentioned multiple times, jolla cannot check against all incompatbilities in the field. | 10:31 |
| TemeV | yes, and if isn't fool proof, what's the point of it? | 10:31 |
| TemeV | you still have to remove all the hacks before updating | 10:32 |
| flux | exactly! if something isn't fool proof, it shouldn't be done at all! | 10:32 |
| flux | is it fool proof to mention it in the release notes? | 10:32 |
| TemeV | kind of | 10:32 |
| Pawky | does any one know the point of being able to backup when restore doesnt restore your accounts? | 10:32 |
| TemeV | Pawky: for me it does restore | 10:32 |
| Pawky | weird... | 10:32 |
| TemeV | flux: technical solution that isn't 100% working just gives you false feeling of safety | 10:34 |
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| lainwir3d | blog post : https://blog.jolla.com/early-access-sailfish-os-2-0-saimaa/ | 10:44 |
| Pawky | when was the official 2.0.0.10 released? | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | EA was yesterday | 10:48 |
| Hartzi | Pawky: everyting betweed few days to few weeks | 10:49 |
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| Hartzi | between* | 10:49 |
| Pawky | thought so... because I got it before sending the phone in.. | 10:49 |
| tadzik | You can now pick your favorite settings shortcuts to be shown in the Events view of the Jolla phone | 10:49 |
| tadzik | oh gawd, is this heaven | 10:49 |
| Pawky | :-) | 10:49 |
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| lainwir3d | tadzik: yeah, and the result is quite nice | 10:50 |
| tadzik | and it seems like 1.1.9 happened quite recently | 10:52 |
| tadzik | searches in PDFs? :o | 10:52 |
| baum | by chance anyone is aware of a tool/script/option which automaticly stops the android support if no android app is running? | 10:54 |
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| chem|st | baum: there are always android apps running when android support is running... | 11:02 |
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| coderus | baum: schturman had something similar on openrepos, but i dont trust his apps, try on own risk :) | 11:03 |
| baum | chem|st: if that's the case, it's quite scary :) | 11:03 |
| baum | oh btw, came across a fancy bug: you can't un-install android apps unless the android support is running | 11:04 |
| chem|st | baum: it is android | 11:04 |
| baum | coderus: means they are closed source? | 11:04 |
| ggabriel | taht's not a bug, it's a feature | 11:04 |
| chem|st | baum: to uninstall somethign from a system that system needs to be running | 11:05 |
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| baum | a bug is only a feature if you can turn it off :P | 11:05 |
| chem|st | baum: nope | 11:05 |
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| chem|st | that is called a setting | 11:05 |
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| baum | chem|st: the expected behaviour of removing an android app (while the engine isn't running) would be: try to start android&remove it || remove the apps data from the disk without android | 11:07 |
| baum | however, that there is simply no action at all makes it seem like a bug | 11:08 |
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| Pawky | lol | 11:14 |
| Pawky | oh.. to slow | 11:15 |
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| Tegu | hm, has all new notes become white in the notes app for others? as if it has run out of colors and spits only white now instead of randomly rotating the colors | 11:36 |
| Lieke_ | still colored here | 11:37 |
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| Tegu | weird | 11:38 |
| eugenio | new notes are white to me since a loooong time | 11:39 |
| eugenio | ohhhh nice | 11:41 |
| eugenio | it seems that the notes app is going to be open sourced | 11:41 |
| eugenio | triple license GPL2/LGPL2/agreement-with-Jolla | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | maybe eventually | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | until it happens, it's not | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:42 |
| eugenio | just looking at the code and its header :) | 11:42 |
| Tegu | yea, they have been white for a long time as well | 11:45 |
| eugenio | Error: no such table: next_color_index Unable to execute statement | 11:45 |
| eugenio | Tegu, which SailfishOS version was your phone shipped with? | 11:46 |
| Tegu | ah yea, somehow it never come to my mind to try to run it on terminal | 11:46 |
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| Tegu | eugenio: hm, don't remember it about this one. (previous was early ones, maybe first or second update. this one I got in warranty replacement) | 11:47 |
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| Tegu | can it be shown somewhere? | 11:47 |
| Tegu | or maybe I just check the update timelines | 11:47 |
| eugenio | with a factory reset | 11:47 |
| eugenio | :D | 11:47 |
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| Tegu | ya! I will do it just to resolve the version :) | 11:48 |
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| eugenio | don't know if you can mount the factory snapshot elsewhere and read /etc/sailfish-release | 11:48 |
| eugenio | ok so I don't have that table at all | 11:50 |
| Tegu | perhaps Tahkalampi (1.0.8.21) or Vaarainjärvi (1.1.1.26) | 11:51 |
| eugenio | ook | 11:51 |
| eugenio | mine came with Ohijarvi (1.0.4.xx) | 11:51 |
| Tegu | not uitukka (which was in between, but opt-in) | 11:51 |
| Tegu | but hm, I got these notes through the backup system from the previous phone, so maybe that affects | 11:52 |
| eugenio | it may be | 11:52 |
| eugenio | I think I'll shamelessly create the table and then file a bug at TJC | 11:52 |
| eugenio | (if there isn't one already) | 11:53 |
| Tegu | which was Kaajanlampi or Laadunjärvi (the 2 first updates) | 11:53 |
| Tegu | yea, thought about having a look at the sqlite database as well | 11:53 |
| eugenio | yay, seems to work now :) | 11:54 |
| eugenio | ok so you have a DB in ~/.local/share/jolla-notes/QML/OfflineStorage/Databases/ | 11:55 |
| eugenio | open it with sqlite3 from a terminal (maybe take a backup before) | 11:55 |
| eugenio | then CREATE TABLE next_color_index (value INTEGER); | 11:55 |
| eugenio | and INSERT INTO next_color_index VALUES (0); | 11:55 |
| Tegu | just took a backup yesterday as I updated to 1.1.9 | 11:55 |
| Tegu | how did you resolve the table format? | 11:55 |
| eugenio | looked at the code :) | 11:56 |
| Tegu | ah, it says "notes.js" in the error message | 11:56 |
| Tegu | duh | 11:56 |
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| eugenio | there is also a nice upgradeSchema() function | 11:56 |
| eugenio | that it don't seem to work (but that may be related to the backup, as my Notes database has been also restored from a backup) | 11:57 |
| Tegu | yea, the backup probably messed it up | 11:58 |
| eugenio | that's great, this bug midly pissed me off for the past year or so | 11:58 |
| Tegu | haha | 11:58 |
| eugenio | never bothered to look at the error messages though :D | 11:58 |
| Tegu | and took like 10 minutes to resolve for you :D | 11:58 |
| eugenio | will make a post on TJC | 11:58 |
| Tegu | oki good | 11:59 |
| Tegu | I never bothered to change the color of all of the notes :D | 11:59 |
| Tegu | so there is just white everywhere | 11:59 |
| eugenio | the same, I have a bunch of white notes | 11:59 |
| eugenio | ok, there is a bug already filed (and TJC's search mechanism actually found it!) | 12:00 |
| Tegu | boom it works :D thanks | 12:01 |
| eugenio | :D | 12:01 |
| Tegu | now I just wish it stored dates as well.. but that's another story | 12:02 |
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| coderus | baum: no, means he is not a programmer, just copypasting some random bash lines, don't even understand how things works :) | 12:33 |
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| HtheB_ | tigeli: hi! | 12:41 |
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| HtheB | I am still wondering why TeamViewer is *NOT* working on Jolla :( it crashes right after you try to login on a remote desktop | 12:42 |
| MoritzJT_ | It used to work... | 12:43 |
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| tadzik | hmm, there's no blinky delay in pulley menus if you pull all the way up and tap | 12:43 |
| MoritzJT_ | tried all the old versions? I think it was a SailfishOS update broke it | 12:43 |
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| Aciid | teamviewer is pretty heavy | 12:47 |
| HtheB | Aciid: no its not | 12:47 |
| HtheB | Old version worked fine ;) | 12:47 |
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| HtheB | There is something that Jolla misses (dalvik issues?) | 12:48 |
| tore_ | anyone know how to make android browser/e-mail client the default for opening http/mailto urls? | 12:53 |
| ggabriel | yay, first battery drain complaint spotted in tmo | 12:54 |
| tabasko_ | jeaaah, updated to 2.0 and now phone is permanently in airplane mode. Settings app crashes at start :D | 12:55 |
| tabasko_ | eg, how I disable airplane mode from terminal? | 12:55 |
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| titilambert | Hello! | 13:02 |
| titilambert | Is there someone who upgraded to 2.0.0.10 ? | 13:02 |
| PeperJohnny | yup | 13:02 |
| titilambert | I have this problem; https://together.jolla.com/question/116139/bug-20010-upgrade-failed-wlan-networking-broken-11930/ | 13:03 |
| titilambert | So I'm looking for the sbj-wlan rpm | 13:03 |
| titilambert | for 2.0.0.10 version | 13:03 |
| baum | coderus: i see, by chance you could give me a link to the script? sadly i didn't manage to find it | 13:04 |
| titilambert | PeperJohnny: could you help me ? please | 13:06 |
| PeperJohnny | titilambert: any idea where the file could be ? | 13:06 |
| titilambert | yeah ! | 13:07 |
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| titilambert | 2 sec please :_ | 13:07 |
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| titilambert | PeperJohnny: maybe somewhere in /home/.pk-zypp-dist-upgrade-cache/packages | 13:09 |
| tabasko_ | https://kurnu.org/index.php/s/nJAWIxxXMhRSVaH | 13:09 |
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| titilambert | PeperJohnny: could type : pkcon search name wlan | 13:10 |
| titilambert | Just to know which version do you have | 13:10 |
| PeperJohnny | sbj-wlan-0.2.6-10.21.1.jolla.armv7hl | 13:10 |
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| titilambert | PeperJohnny: thanks ! | 13:13 |
| titilambert | I got it ! | 13:13 |
| PeperJohnny | titilambert: dind't find anything yet | 13:13 |
| titilambert | I will post the solution right now | 13:13 |
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| PeperJohnny | Ok | 13:13 |
| titilambert | PeperJohnny: It's really strange | 13:18 |
| titilambert | This package was downgraded from 1.1.9.30 to 2.0.0.10 ... | 13:18 |
| titilambert | On 1.1.9.30 I got sbj-wlan-0.2.6-10.21.4.jolla.armv7hl | 13:19 |
| PeperJohnny | yeah that's what pkcon told me, that .4 is available | 13:19 |
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| titilambert | not cool :/ | 13:19 |
| titilambert | PeperJohnny: Don't get it ! :) | 13:19 |
| PeperJohnny | I won't =) | 13:20 |
| titilambert | :D | 13:20 |
| titilambert | PeperJohnny: anyway - THANKS ! | 13:20 |
| PeperJohnny | You're welcome | 13:20 |
| PeperJohnny | Your jolla working again? | 13:21 |
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| titilambert | I get wifi back | 13:28 |
| titilambert | PeperJohnny: I'm still trying to download the upgrade | 13:28 |
| titilambert | PeperJohnny: The progress bar does NOT progress :D | 13:28 |
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| PeperJohnny | titilambert: on my phone the download progress bar just moved after about 1/3 of the dl i think | 13:31 |
| titilambert | PeperJohnny: Oki, How long > | 13:34 |
| titilambert | PeperJohnny: Oki, How long ? | 13:34 |
| titilambert | PeperJohnny: Oki, How long it takes ? | 13:34 |
| PeperJohnny | Uhm i think it was 10 Minutes | 13:34 |
| titilambert | oki, I will let it for 20 minutes, after I will try something | 13:35 |
| titilambert | thanks | 13:35 |
| PeperJohnny | you're welcome | 13:35 |
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| coderus | baum: no i'm not keeping suck links | 13:47 |
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| schmittlauch | Hi there, anybody here who wants to help me debugging my phone? | 14:55 |
| TemeV | sure, what's your problem? | 14:56 |
| schmittlauch | I have the "No wifi after update" problem https://together.jolla.com/question/116139/bug-20010-upgrade-failed-wlan-networking-broken-11930/?sort=votes&page=1 | 14:56 |
| schmittlauch | I managed to get the logfiles off my phone, don't know whether that's a help or not | 14:57 |
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| TemeV | and you don't have any other way to connect to internet? | 14:59 |
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| TemeV | to retry the update | 14:59 |
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| schmittlauch | I may try to download it over 3G, but if it failed once, why shouldn't it fail again? | 15:02 |
| schmittlauch | Other people in the same thread have reported that retrying didn't work. | 15:03 |
| TemeV | oh, I didn't read that carefully :) | 15:03 |
| TemeV | I'd just try version --dup from terminal | 15:03 |
| schmittlauch | Oh, someone just found a possible solution(?) | 15:04 |
| schmittlauch | Gonna try it now | 15:04 |
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| HtheB | found a bug on 2.0.10 :) | 15:51 |
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| HtheB | actually, 2 | 15:51 |
| HtheB | 1) no popup letter is shown when typing | 15:51 |
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| HtheB | 2) I've updated one of my android apps, and now I have 2 apps on my app drawer... one is somehow named "ubForm", and it doesn't do anything :/ | 15:52 |
| tabasko_ | is there way to factory reset without accessing settings? | 15:54 |
| ggabriel | tabasko_: through recovery menu | 15:54 |
| tabasko_ | ggabriel: how I get there? | 15:54 |
| ggabriel | tabasko_: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204709607 | 15:55 |
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| * baum is kinda scared of the next update after reading today's irc log =P | 15:58 | |
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| coderus | baum: actually it's same things ater each update | 15:58 |
| coderus | nothing new for me in irc after this update :) | 15:59 |
| baum | heh, i | 15:59 |
| ggabriel | i remember only 1 update that went pretty much straight from ea to ga, the rest all had some kind of trouble | 15:59 |
| baum | 'm scary with updating since the last one | 15:59 |
| baum | i wasn't reachable on my phone for a week....=/ | 15:59 |
| ggabriel | i hope i get updates like those, especially on the work phone | 16:00 |
| schmittlauch | coderus: There have been issues with wifi before? | 16:00 |
| nh1402 | baum: how are you with android porting, I could use some help getting android apps working on ported devices | 16:00 |
| coderus | schmittlauch: for me this issue looks like wrong version of kernel, not matching modules | 16:00 |
| ggabriel | coderus: but surely that'd affect everybody | 16:01 |
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| baum | nh1402: never had problems porting something so far, all apks i tried worked out of the box | 16:01 |
| coderus | ggabriel: surely not everybody | 16:01 |
| schmittlauch | coderus: So I better stay on 1.1.9.30 for a while? I've got my wifi working again | 16:01 |
| coderus | one can try to reinstall modules package and report | 16:01 |
| nh1402 | baum: for android devices that have had sailfish ported to it, (which don't have alien dalvik) | 16:02 |
| ggabriel | coderus: i guess i meant that if they shipped the wrong kernel/module, then everybody will have the same problem | 16:02 |
| ggabriel | unless you're assuming that the problem presents itself only when the update is cancelled for xyz reason | 16:02 |
| coderus | ggabriel: yes update is cancelled | 16:02 |
| baum | nh1402: oh, you mean porting sailfish apps on android? | 16:02 |
| ggabriel | k | 16:02 |
| coderus | and modules werent updated | 16:02 |
| ggabriel | yeah, that makes sense | 16:03 |
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| nh1402 | baum: no, I mean running android apps in Sailfish on Android phones (eg Nexus 5) | 16:03 |
| baum | nh1402: never tried that, sorry. kinda wondering though - why can't you run alien dalvik on it? | 16:04 |
| coderus | try reinstall kernel-adaptation-sbj | 16:04 |
| nh1402 | baum: proprietary closed source software | 16:04 |
| nh1402 | Jolla has a license for it, but that's only for their own phone and tablet (and probably intex phones). | 16:05 |
| baum | oh, the irony | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | nh1402: a little different: for sailfish licencees | 16:06 |
| coderus | but also adaptation for each hw is very different | 16:06 |
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| Yaniel | hmm my wifi works just fine | 16:09 |
| Yaniel | is this tablet-specific or do I just have some fairy dust stuck in my jolla | 16:09 |
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| nh1402 | baum: so would you like to help | 16:09 |
| baum | nh1402: i'm sorry but i got no idea how i could help you. | 16:19 |
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| baum | nh1402: oh, now i do have an idea, if i got everything right you'd simply need to compile dalvik for your platform? | 16:21 |
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| tabasko_ | ggabriel: thanks, actually I can get shell too from recovery. Which was memorycards name under /dev? | 16:26 |
| tabasko_ | trying to save photos from internal memory :) | 16:26 |
| ggabriel | tabasko_: if you mean emmc, that's mmcblk0p28 | 16:27 |
| ggabriel | sd cad i assume you don't need to backup | 16:27 |
| ggabriel | i suggest you mount home and back it up though, way easier | 16:27 |
| tabasko_ | ggabriel: I'm going to copy /home/nemo to sdcard | 16:30 |
| tigeli | HtheB: hi.. to be honest teamviewer seems bit of a crap :D | 16:31 |
| tabasko_ | cant scp from telnet :) | 16:31 |
| tabasko_ | but it seems /home/nemo isnt at mmcblk0p28 | 16:31 |
| ggabriel | tabasko_: that's what I normally do | 16:31 |
| tabasko_ | sdcard is mmcblk1p1 | 16:31 |
| tabasko_ | ggabriel: scp trough telnet? | 16:31 |
| ggabriel | tabasko_: it's there, it's a different subvol though | 16:31 |
| ggabriel | tabasko_: nope, copy to sd card | 16:31 |
| ggabriel | tabasko_: in fact, tar to sdcard, it's even faster | 16:31 |
| tabasko_ | yeah, have to set up cronjob for that. Annoying when this happens :D | 16:32 |
| ggabriel | the zendesk link I gave you should have a couple of mount examples | 16:32 |
| tabasko_ | ah, sorry | 16:34 |
| tabasko_ | must learn to rtfm | 16:34 |
| chem|st | tabasko_: you ok or do you need some more help? | 16:35 |
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| tabasko_ | chem|st: I think I can manage my own now. Backupped whole home and did factory reset :) | 16:42 |
| tabasko_ | but yeah, I upgraded to 2.0.10 and that broke my settings app | 16:42 |
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| tabasko_ | and phone was in airplane mode. Managed to get connection by doing pkcon refresh which caused connection popup to show | 16:43 |
| schmittlauch | tabasko_: How did that happen? (I'm still at 1.1.9.30 and want to know what to take care of) | 16:43 |
| tabasko_ | and tried to do pkcon upgrade because there was still notification offering OS upgrade. After that reboot, and tadah only white screen :) | 16:44 |
| chem|st | tabasko_: you could just have changed the state and reboot... | 16:44 |
| chem|st | tabasko_: and yeah pkcon upgrade is not that a good idea | 16:44 |
| tabasko_ | schmittlauch: dunno. I dont use patches or any mods. 1.1.9.30 upgrade went fine | 16:44 |
| tabasko_ | chem|st: it seems so | 16:44 |
| tabasko_ | chem|st: what you mean by changed state | 16:44 |
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| chem|st | tabasko_: cahnge flightmode to wlan on | 16:45 |
| ar | huh, 2.0.10? | 16:45 |
| chem|st | ar: .0. | 16:45 |
| ar | why does my 1.1.9.28 say it's up-to-date? | 16:45 |
| chem|st | ar: early access? | 16:45 |
| tabasko_ | chem|st: yeah. But I was still annoyed not having settings app | 16:45 |
| ar | hm | 16:45 |
| ar | chem|st: ah, one of the options under developer mode? | 16:46 |
| tabasko_ | also store was only showing white screen | 16:46 |
| chem|st | tabasko_: yaeh but then you can use the terminal to fix it | 16:46 |
| tabasko_ | ar: no. You have to opt-in from your jolla account | 16:46 |
| tabasko_ | from jollas site | 16:46 |
| ar | hmm | 16:46 |
| ar | tabasko_: link? | 16:46 |
| chem|st | ar: your jolla account | 16:47 |
| tabasko_ | https://kurnu.org/index.php/apps/files_sharing/ajax/publicpreview.php?x=1920&y=659&a=true&file=jollasettingsfail.png&t=nJAWIxxXMhRSVaH&scalingup=0 | 16:47 |
| chem|st | accounts.jolla.com | 16:47 |
| chem|st | or something | 16:47 |
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| tabasko_ | this showed up when I tried to start settings from term | 16:47 |
| chem|st | tabasko_: yeah well, you need to recover... wont start from terminal... | 16:47 |
| chem|st | and it is probably something that has a settings item | 16:48 |
| schmittlauch | ssu --dup failed with "Authentication failed". Any ideas? | 16:49 |
| chem|st | ssu --dup? | 16:49 |
| schmittlauch | sorry, version --dup | 16:49 |
| chem|st | jolla account setup? | 16:49 |
| schmittlauch | I can access the store. | 16:50 |
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| chem|st | you are attempting to upgrade from .30 to 2. right? | 16:50 |
| chem|st | maybe do _not_ circumwent the GUI for early access? | 16:51 |
| chem|st | vent | 16:51 |
| schmittlauch | yes, as the 2 update failed and left my without working wifi. wifi is fixed now, but update won't download again from GUI | 16:51 |
| chem|st | so it shows but does not load? | 16:52 |
| chem|st | reset your jolla account | 16:52 |
| schmittlauch | Yes. The progress bar stops moving after some millimeters. | 16:52 |
| schmittlauch | Ok, will try | 16:52 |
| chem|st | or wait, | 16:52 |
| chem|st | try | 16:52 |
| chem|st | ssu ur | 16:52 |
| chem|st | pkcon refresh | 16:52 |
| chem|st | and wait for errors | 16:53 |
| tabasko_ | eww, revcovery image was 1.0.8.19 | 16:53 |
| schmittlauch | already removed account. Let's see what that brings. | 16:53 |
| tabasko_ | this means whole friday night upgrading | 16:53 |
| tabasko_ | might need some beer with this | 16:53 |
| schmittlauch | tabasko_: Good old days, huh? | 16:53 |
| tabasko_ | schmittlauch: really | 16:54 |
| tabasko_ | old ui want that bad either | 16:54 |
| tabasko_ | *wasnt | 16:54 |
| chem|st | tabasko_: that is quiet fast, it should go 1.1.x twice then 2.0 | 16:54 |
| tabasko_ | chem|st: okay. I was afraid that I have to upgrade whole path to latest :) | 16:55 |
| chem|st | no | 16:55 |
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| schmittlauch | chem|st: Thanks for your help, but both tips didn't work. I removed and added my Jolla account. ssu ur. pkcon refresh -> "Fatal error: Authentication failed (is SSU set up correctly?)" | 17:01 |
| schmittlauch | ssu s says "Device registration status: not registered" May that be an issue? | 17:05 |
| coderus | schmittlauch: ssu domain sales | 17:06 |
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| HtheB | tigeli: crap is not a solution you know :P | 17:08 |
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| HtheB | saying it's crap because Jolla can't handle it, is not something what I would like to see :P xD | 17:09 |
| schmittlauch | coderus: It's already at sales | 17:09 |
| coderus | show ssu s output | 17:09 |
| schmittlauch | # ssu s | 17:09 |
| schmittlauch | Device registration status: not registered | 17:09 |
| schmittlauch | Device model: Jolla (SbJ / JP-1301) | 17:09 |
| schmittlauch | Device UID: 359745050089298 | 17:09 |
| schmittlauch | Release: 2.0.0.10 | 17:09 |
| schmittlauch | Domain: sales | 17:10 |
| HtheB | coderus: I've found a glitch/bug on the Launcher patch (Don't know if it's already been addressed) | 17:10 |
| coderus | HtheB: i don't know also before you describe it | 17:10 |
| coderus | schmittlauch: ssu lr also | 17:10 |
| schmittlauch | I'm still on 1.1.9.30 because the update didn't succeed | 17:10 |
| HtheB | when you open an app, and quickly open the app drawer again to open another app | 17:10 |
| coderus | use pastebin please) | 17:10 |
| HtheB | it will somehow not show any apps anymore | 17:10 |
| schmittlauch | coderus: home is not activated | 17:10 |
| HtheB | untill you restart HS | 17:10 |
| HtheB | (or reboot) | 17:10 |
| coderus | schmittlauch: post list to pastebin | 17:11 |
| HtheB | the app drawer will be empty | 17:11 |
| coderus | HtheB: no idea, never had this bug | 17:11 |
| tigeli | HtheB: don | 17:11 |
| schmittlauch | coderus: https://gist.github.com/schmittlauch/217a556e246d92d6fd3a | 17:11 |
| tigeli | HtheB: argh, don't know about teamviewer on jolla but I've seen how it work generally on linux :D | 17:12 |
| HtheB | tigeli: on Linux, it's just Windows build using Wine | 17:12 |
| tigeli | HtheB: and iirc it was some sort or wine+hack+hack+hack-thing | 17:12 |
| tigeli | yeah :D | 17:12 |
| HtheB | I'm a Windows user, as all other people who I know (family and friends) | 17:12 |
| HtheB | so Teamviewer is a must for me :P | 17:13 |
| tigeli | HtheB: don't get me wrong.. I've used it to support OSX/Win-users in my previous life | 17:13 |
| coderus | schmittlauch: looks okay, should refresh repositories with no problems | 17:13 |
| HtheB | funny fact: Old version of Teamviewer worked just very fine.... | 17:13 |
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| chem|st | tigeli: my current life, I use it as a remote to my machines (machines as in analytical equipment) | 17:13 |
| schmittlauch | coderus: I know, but it doesn't. Already tried removing and adding Jolla account. | 17:13 |
| tigeli | HtheB: I switched to chrome remote desktop to support my family ;) | 17:14 |
| chem|st | tigeli: iirc there is at least a .deb for it out there | 17:14 |
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| tigeli | chem|st: yes.. I think so too | 17:14 |
| HtheB | tigeli: any idea what is the reason why it just doesnt work? | 17:14 |
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| tigeli | HtheB: no idea, would have to try it | 17:15 |
| HtheB | lets try it :D | 17:15 |
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| tigeli | HtheB: https://together.jolla.com/question/36604/android-debug-traces/ | 17:15 |
| tigeli | HtheB: can you provide the logs for me? | 17:16 |
| HtheB | Sure | 17:16 |
| schmittlauch | This is the first Sailfish update I have issues with | 17:16 |
| HtheB | I remember we did this before though :P | 17:16 |
| * HtheB does it again | 17:16 | |
| schmittlauch | coderus: Shall I contact care? | 17:16 |
| tigeli | HtheB: currently I'm not really in the mood debuggint anything (have been fighting with gnutls the whole day) | 17:16 |
| chem|st | schmittlauch: well... what caused the wlan stuff? | 17:16 |
| tigeli | HtheB: can't remember :D | 17:16 |
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| chem|st | tigeli: let me guess, you lost the battle | 17:17 |
| tigeli | chem|st: nope :D | 17:17 |
| schmittlauch | chem|st: It seems the update failed between updating kernel and wifi modules, so the modules didn't match. See https://together.jolla.com/question/116139/bug-20010-upgrade-failed-wlan-networking-broken-11930/?sort=votes&page=1 | 17:17 |
| chem|st | uhuh :) | 17:17 |
| tigeli | chem|st: https://together.jolla.com/question/116115/bug-xmpp-not-working-anymore/ | 17:17 |
| tigeli | chem|st: it was about that | 17:17 |
| coderus | schmittlauch: post in tjc first | 17:18 |
| coderus | hope you can find help there | 17:18 |
| HtheB | coderus: could you reproduce the bug? | 17:18 |
| schmittlauch | coderus: I guess it's there https://together.jolla.com/question/116139/bug-20010-upgrade-failed-wlan-networking-broken-11930/?sort=votes&page=1 | 17:18 |
| chem|st | schmittlauch: you might want to version --dup the .30 first then | 17:18 |
| chem|st | maybe something is still not right | 17:18 |
| coderus | 22:11 < HtheB> the app drawer will be empty | 17:18 |
| coderus | 22:11 < coderus> HtheB: no idea, never had this bug | 17:18 |
| schmittlauch | chem|st: so ssu version 1.1.9.30 && version --dup? | 17:19 |
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| chem|st | so annoying, 2 years we call it launcher and all for a sudden someone prints app-drawer in a manual | 17:19 |
| coderus | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26659227/jolla/touchevd_test-0.2.0-1.i486.rpm | 17:19 |
| chem|st | ssu re 1.1.9.30 | 17:19 |
| chem|st | schmittlauch: ^ | 17:19 |
| tigeli | chem|st: what's app-drawer? :D | 17:19 |
| coderus | multitouch PoC with ForceTouch suupport :D | 17:19 |
| * chem|st slaps tigeli with a void string | 17:19 | |
| coderus | launch touchevd_test on tablet in terminal | 17:20 |
| coderus | (might freeze if more than two fingers used) | 17:20 |
| tigeli | chem|st: I probably have not got the memo :D | 17:20 |
| chem|st | tigeli: me neither | 17:20 |
| schmittlauch | chem|st: still auth failed | 17:20 |
| chem|st | tigeli: I kept correcting people until I RTFMed the printed tablet manual | 17:20 |
| chem|st | tigeli: any clue about auth failure^ | 17:21 |
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| chem|st | schmittlauch: did you touch the developer upgrade stuff? | 17:21 |
| HtheB | tigeli: where is the output? | 17:22 |
| HtheB | (how to extract or read the log of logcat) | 17:22 |
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| schmittlauch | tigeli: I touched the `ssu register thing, but only while trying to resolve exactly this issue | 17:23 |
| tigeli | HtheB: copy-paste it to somehwere :D | 17:23 |
| chem|st | HtheB: logcat $options > file.log | 17:23 |
| HtheB | chem|st: thanks | 17:24 |
| tigeli | schmittlauch: what does "ssu domain" show? | 17:24 |
| chem|st | and it is probably in /opt/alien/ somewhere as file | 17:24 |
| schmittlauch | tigeli: sales. ssu s output: https://gist.github.com/schmittlauch/217a556e246d92d6fd3a | 17:25 |
| chem|st | 19:10 < schmittlauch> Domain: sales | 17:25 |
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| tigeli | schmittlauch: first of all, disable those openrepos-repositories | 17:26 |
| HtheB | tigeli: check pm | 17:26 |
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| HtheB | tigeli: is there a reason to disable the enhance logs again? | 17:28 |
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| schmittlauch | tigeli: Done, auth-issue remains | 17:31 |
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| tigeli | HtheB: no, they will get disabled after reboot eventually | 17:32 |
| tigeli | schmittlauch: can you remove and re-add your jolla-account from the settings->accounts? | 17:33 |
| schmittlauch | tigeli: Already done that. | 17:33 |
| schmittlauch | tigeli: including reboot | 17:34 |
| Hartzi | I had similar issue before the update | 17:34 |
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| Hartzi | I think that the utilities app fixed the problem | 17:35 |
| tigeli | schmittlauch: can I get "pkcon refresh" output? | 17:36 |
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| schmittlauch | tigeli: the update gui is trying to download the update in background. Does this affect version --dup? | 17:37 |
| tigeli | schmittlauch: yes it will | 17:37 |
| schmittlauch | tigelis how can I stop it? | 17:38 |
| tigeli | I can't tell if there a nice way to do it, but killing packaged will definitely stop it | 17:38 |
| schmittlauch | tigeli: https://gist.github.com/schmittlauch/e911039d81544ff36e3e | 17:39 |
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| schmittlauch | tigeli: and still the same after killing packagekitd | 17:40 |
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| caitlin | can jolla do airplay? | 17:44 |
| chem|st | tigeli: pkill store-client | 17:44 |
| HtheB | tigeli: check pm again :) | 17:45 |
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| Tegu | I just realized that horizontal (as in, the line is vertical) puleys still have the old style in 1.1.9. has that changed in 2.0.0? | 18:12 |
| coderus | Tegu: no idea what you talking about | 18:15 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | you mean Irc or Haikala | 18:16 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | ? | 18:16 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | or some else app? | 18:17 |
| Tegu | yea, just like in IRC app | 18:18 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | it is the old style | 18:18 |
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| Yaniel | probabl because they aren't silica pulleys? | 18:21 |
| Tegu | oh, silica does not have that kind of pulleys? | 18:23 |
| Yaniel | AFAIK not | 18:25 |
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| cehteh | i need a quote: would anyone of you be interested in cheap thermoformed other halfs. just raw plastic for diy projects | 18:34 |
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