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| saidinesh5 | compiling a minimal sfdroid/CM build .. so i will try running it in lxc, with a shared tmp partition.. | 12:56 |
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| nh1402 | interesting | 15:04 |
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| saidinesh5 | yeah right now everytime i start sfdroid, even though it isnt booting, it is messing up my data/cache so everytime i boot into android, it is "optimizing" my 200 applications | 15:43 |
| saidinesh5 | phone overheating and all that | 15:43 |
| nh1402 | saidinesh5: I would suggest Nougat but haven't done any sfdroid modifications for that yet, and isn't even supported with libhybris yet either. Unless you want to go backwards and try KitKat | 15:45 |
| saidinesh5 | nh1402: oh i am doing the CM12.1 itself.. still building slowly.... | 15:46 |
| saidinesh5 | interesting: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-smartphone/blob/webOS-ports/master/meta-android/recipes-core/android-system/android-system/lxc-config | 16:04 |
| saidinesh5 | should have unchecked the webkit parts.. damn. stlll building webkit | 16:21 |
| nh1402 | saidinesh5: the "opitimising" thing is because the runtime is ART, in Kitkat the default is dalvik, and in Nougat it's still dalvik but it's a hybrid system, so it doesn't have the annoying optimising rubbish | 16:26 |
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| saidinesh5 | I see... well if this works out, i can then move up to Android N and see that | 16:35 |
| saidinesh5 | for N i have to get new blobs and all that again.. so that's why not touching it | 16:35 |
| saidinesh5 | plus I dont know how selinux being disabled is going to mess with all the security stuff introduced in android 6 | 16:36 |
| saidinesh5 | there were even a lot of kernel patches in between CM12.1(my sfos base) and CM14.1 .. so its kind of scary to deviate from the current versions | 16:38 |
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| nh1402__ | saidinesh5: Nougat is still ART* but it's a hybrid system. | 18:08 |
| nh1402__ | yh I wouldn't advice switching to nougat, at least not yet. | 18:09 |
| saidinesh5 | yeah there have been a lot of device/ kernel/ changes in between CM12.1 and CM14.1 .. so i dont want to try N yet | 18:09 |
| saidinesh5 | compiling CM is such a pain.. | 18:10 |
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| nh1402_ | saidinesh5: so is this going to be a chroot kind of deal then? | 18:46 |
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| saidinesh5 | nh1402_: yep. | 18:46 |
| saidinesh5 | apparently chrome os does the same too | 18:46 |
| saidinesh5 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PflCyiULO4&t=2h10m22s | 18:47 |
| saidinesh5 | https://lwn.net/Articles/701964/ | 18:47 |
| nh1402 | I thought there's was a bit more like sfdroid, it renders into a wayland window, and uses some system to pass input | 18:47 |
| nh1402 | their system* | 18:48 |
| saidinesh5 | from the bits of code i read, SFDroid has a sharebuffer module which allocates some gpu memory and renders Android surfaces to it | 18:48 |
| saidinesh5 | and passes around the id of that memory to SFdroid renderer via. unix socket | 18:48 |
| saidinesh5 | was a bit lazy reading the code, so i maybe wrong | 18:48 |
| nh1402 | that is how it works currently, yes. | 18:49 |
| saidinesh5 | So what i want to do is run SFDroid's init in a container.... and keep the remaining same | 18:50 |
| saidinesh5 | well mostly.. also make sure that everything sfdroid needs is there in the container itself.. | 18:51 |
| saidinesh5 | right now i am just putting the patched libraries in /usr/libexec/sfdroid.. and it was loading some unpatched stuff from /system, /vendor... | 18:52 |
| saidinesh5 | And having to LD_PRELOAD / LD_LIBRARY_PATH in Sailfish's init actually messed things up a little in my first attempt | 18:52 |
| nh1402 | well krnlyng experimented running it through glibc via some patching, and got it rendering without the buffer. | 18:53 |
| nh1402 | so things like surfaceflinger ran through glibc instead of bionic, if I understood that correctly. | 18:53 |
| saidinesh5 | but we still have no control what vendor binaries/services do right? | 18:54 |
| nh1402 | which in theory means all the input could be fiddled to work, including bluetooth and gps, again in theory. | 18:54 |
| nh1402 | yes, can't do anything about that. | 18:54 |
| saidinesh5 | how are we taking care of input right now btw? | 18:55 |
| nh1402 | and due to the modifications that Google did from Marshmallow onwards the glibc way that he did wouldn't work, and would need a lot more patching. | 18:55 |
| saidinesh5 | I see | 18:55 |
| nh1402 | either via the socket or via dbus | 18:56 |
| nh1402 | is how input works currently. | 18:56 |
| nh1402 | mobile data and WiFi work via dbus, and everything else is via the socket iirc | 18:56 |
| saidinesh5 | via socket as in SFDroid renderer sends it? | 18:57 |
| nh1402 | yes | 18:57 |
| saidinesh5 | So getting the container to work means we can actually use the same container on other devices too..? | 18:59 |
| nh1402 | depends on if the devices do it the same way or not. Might need some tweaking. | 19:00 |
| nh1402 | Google didn't roll out ARC++ to all the chromebooks, they've been rolling it out slowly one by one, so it sounds like it isn't all that portable. | 19:01 |
| nh1402 | sfdroid would be no different. | 19:01 |
| saidinesh5 | I see.. | 19:02 |
| nh1402 | Although I have been wondering what kind of relationship libinput has with wayland, and if we could exploit that relationship to get input working via lipstick | 19:03 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah.. you mean a libinput based libhardware module? | 19:03 |
| saidinesh5 | (not sure which part handles the input in android) | 19:03 |
| nh1402 | krnlyng, mal, locusf etc. would know more about the details of sfdroid and what can and can't be done. | 19:04 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm... | 19:04 |
| mal | nh1402: what kind of things do you mean | 19:05 |
| nh1402 | mal: if putting CM in an lxc container would mean it would be more portable to run on numerous devices without modifications, if input works via socket and dbus currently, if anything can be done about vendor libs, if input can be routed through wayland somehow via libinput | 19:07 |
| nh1402 | mal, basically if anything I said over the past hour is accurate | 19:09 |
| nh1402 | half hour | 19:13 |
| saidinesh5 | bah., having to rebuild cm because i didnt have unzip in the chroot and now my java dependencies are broken | 19:14 |
| nh1402 | saidinesh5: http://newandroidbook.com/Book/Input.html?r | 19:15 |
| saidinesh5 | I see | 19:17 |
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| saidinesh5 | what the... | 21:53 |
| saidinesh5 | /android/system/out/target/common/obj/PACKAGING/system-api.txt:18255: error 3: Added class Helpers to package android.net | 21:54 |
| saidinesh5 | errors from api.txt files? O_O | 21:54 |
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| saidinesh5 | should have ripped off the documentation repo when cloning this | 22:17 |
| nh1402 | never heard of that before | 22:20 |
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