| *** Nightmare__ <Nightmare__!~Nightmare@HSI-KBW-046-005-173-198.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 00:08 | |
| *** GenesisAquarion is now known as SolarAquarion | 00:11 | |
| *** inte_awa` <inte_awa`!~inte@p5B041EA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 00:12 | |
| *** inte_awa` <inte_awa`!~inte@p5B041EA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 00:12 | |
| *** inte_awa` <inte_awa`!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has joined #sailfishos | 00:12 | |
| *** inte_away <inte_away!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 00:14 | |
| *** beidl_ <beidl_!~quassel@188-22-95-194.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #sailfishos | 00:16 | |
| *** zenvoid_ <zenvoid_!~zenvoid@122.165.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es> has joined #sailfishos | 00:19 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 00:19 | |
| *** beidl <beidl!~quassel@188-23-74-223.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 00:19 | |
| *** nodevel <nodevel!~james@29.169.broadband10.iol.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 00:20 | |
| *** zenvoid <zenvoid!~zenvoid@203.200.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 00:21 | |
| *** zenvoid- <zenvoid-!~zenvoid@56.173.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es> has joined #sailfishos | 00:21 | |
| *** zenvoid- is now known as zenvoid | 00:21 | |
| *** zenvoid_ <zenvoid_!~zenvoid@122.165.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 00:21 | |
| *** ahiemstra <ahiemstra!~quassel@5353054E.cm-6-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 00:25 | |
| *** ahiemstra_ <ahiemstra_!~quassel@5353054E.cm-6-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #sailfishos | 00:25 | |
| *** flywheel_ <flywheel_!~flywheel@80.72.153.53> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 00:25 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 00:32 | |
| *** flywheel_ <flywheel_!~flywheel@80.72.153.53> has joined #sailfishos | 00:34 | |
| *** roboro <roboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 00:34 | |
| *** olafh_ <olafh_!~olafh@p4FF489C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 00:35 | |
| *** qqK <qqK!~qqK@h-72-191.a163.priv.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Bouncers suck.) | 00:35 | |
| *** betchou <betchou!~betchou@c-6ffee555.018-342-73746f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte) | 00:38 | |
| *** tango_ <tango_!~tex_vim@151.54.117.56> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 00:51 | |
| *** cybrNaut <cybrNaut!cybrNaut@2001:0:53aa:64c:300f:a818:bcca:66c4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 00:56 | |
| *** tango_ <tango_!~tex_vim@151.54.105.87> has joined #sailfishos | 00:57 | |
| *** mozggg <mozggg!~igor@mail.sibatom.com> has joined #sailfishos | 00:59 | |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@aael252.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 01:01 | |
| *** cybrNaut <cybrNaut!cybrNaut@2001:0:53aa:64c:300f:a818:bcca:66c4> has joined #sailfishos | 01:01 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@ipbcc243dc.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #sailfishos | 01:03 | |
| *** flywheel_ <flywheel_!~flywheel@80.72.153.53> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 01:04 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@ipbcc243dc.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 01:08 | |
| *** flywheel_ <flywheel_!~flywheel@80.72.153.53> has joined #sailfishos | 01:21 | |
| *** jalyst <jalyst!~textual@CPE-121-208-32-143.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has joined #sailfishos | 01:24 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 01:29 | |
| *** M4rtinK <M4rtinK!~M4rtinK@ip-89-177-124-246.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 01:29 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 01:36 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 01:41 | |
| *** flywheel_ <flywheel_!~flywheel@80.72.153.53> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 01:47 | |
| *** Behold <Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 01:52 | |
| *** Guest51004 <Guest51004!~ahamalai@83.150.122.198> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | 01:52 | |
| *** mord <mord!~ahamalai@83.150.122.198> has joined #sailfishos | 01:53 | |
| *** mord is now known as Guest32437 | 01:53 | |
| *** flywheel_ <flywheel_!~flywheel@80.72.153.53> has joined #sailfishos | 01:56 | |
| *** lsm5 <lsm5!lsm5@redhat/lsm5> has quit IRC (Quit: itekimas) | 02:18 | |
| *** lsm5 <lsm5!lsm5@redhat/lsm5> has joined #sailfishos | 02:19 | |
| *** lsm5 <lsm5!lsm5@redhat/lsm5> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 02:20 | |
| *** lsm5 <lsm5!lsm5@redhat/lsm5> has joined #sailfishos | 02:23 | |
| *** gexc_ <gexc_!~gexc@60.188.61.101> has joined #sailfishos | 02:38 | |
| *** flywheel_ <flywheel_!~flywheel@80.72.153.53> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 02:44 | |
| *** jalyst <jalyst!~textual@CPE-121-208-32-143.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) | 04:00 | |
| *** m4g0g <m4g0g!~Maledictu@mm-163-59-84-93.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by> has joined #sailfishos | 04:03 | |
| *** spiiroin <spiiroin!~spiiroin@178-55-146-216.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 04:24 | |
| *** m4g0g <m4g0g!~Maledictu@mm-163-59-84-93.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 04:26 | |
| *** martyone_ <martyone_!~martyone@193.179.215.102> has joined #sailfishos | 04:46 | |
| *** jalyst <jalyst!~textual@CPE-121-208-32-143.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has joined #sailfishos | 04:49 | |
| *** max87 <max87!~max87@ims1.ims-mail.in> has joined #sailfishos | 05:09 | |
| *** jalyst <jalyst!~textual@CPE-121-208-32-143.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) | 05:09 | |
| *** jalyst <jalyst!~textual@CPE-121-208-32-143.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has joined #sailfishos | 05:23 | |
| *** cornerma1 <cornerma1!~cornerman@xdsl-87-79-140-171.netcologne.de> has joined #sailfishos | 05:28 | |
| *** Pat_o <Pat_o!~pat@rob92-9-88-161-114-92.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #sailfishos | 05:30 | |
| *** cornerman <cornerman!~cornerman@xdsl-78-34-111-216.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | 05:31 | |
| *** cornerma1 is now known as cornerman | 05:31 | |
| *** VDVsx <VDVsx!~VDVsx@dsl-hkibrasgw1-58c019-114.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 05:34 | |
| *** ryukafalz <ryukafalz!~jonathan@pool-173-61-38-51.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 05:43 | |
| *** ryukafalz <ryukafalz!~jonathan@pool-173-61-38-51.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net> has joined #sailfishos | 05:46 | |
| *** olafh_ <olafh_!~olafh@p5B25BD1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 05:47 | |
| *** Guest32437 <Guest32437!~ahamalai@83.150.122.198> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 05:54 | |
| *** mord <mord!~ahamalai@83.150.122.198> has joined #sailfishos | 05:55 | |
| *** mord is now known as Guest77805 | 05:55 | |
| *** sletta <sletta!~sletta@74.170.102.62.customer.cdi.no> has joined #sailfishos | 06:02 | |
| *** Sequenced <Sequenced!~sailfish@91-157-184-159.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) | 06:02 | |
| *** VDVsx <VDVsx!~VDVsx@2001:2060:53:beef:60e3:9844:653c:e70e> has joined #sailfishos | 06:03 | |
| *** max87 <max87!~max87@ims1.ims-mail.in> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 06:04 | |
| *** jalyst <jalyst!~textual@CPE-121-208-32-143.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) | 06:17 | |
| *** jalyst <jalyst!~textual@CPE-121-208-32-143.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has joined #sailfishos | 06:19 | |
| *** Price15x <Price15x!~sailfish@27.106.62.106> has joined #sailfishos | 06:21 | |
| *** Price15x_ <Price15x_!~sailfish@27.106.62.106> has joined #sailfishos | 06:26 | |
| *** Price15x <Price15x!~sailfish@27.106.62.106> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 06:26 | |
| *** ryukafalz <ryukafalz!~jonathan@pool-173-61-38-51.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 06:27 | |
| *** Price15x <Price15x!~sailfish@27.106.62.106> has joined #sailfishos | 06:28 | |
| *** Price15x_ <Price15x_!~sailfish@27.106.62.106> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 06:28 | |
| *** Price15x <Price15x!~sailfish@27.106.62.106> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 06:29 | |
| *** kaari <kaari!~kaari@dsl-hkibrasgw1-58c01b-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 06:34 | |
| *** dafox <dafox!~dafox@145.15.244.19> has joined #sailfishos | 06:36 | |
| *** ryukafalz <ryukafalz!~jonathan@pool-173-61-38-51.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net> has joined #sailfishos | 06:37 | |
| *** spiiroin <spiiroin!~spiiroin@2001:998:2a:dead:a574:d9ed:dc98:7105> has joined #sailfishos | 06:37 | |
| *** radekp <radekp!~radek@82.113.39.213> has joined #sailfishos | 06:39 | |
| *** tzafrir <tzafrir!~tzafrir@bzq-218-28-58.cablep.bezeqint.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 06:55 | |
| *** cloanta_ <cloanta_!~sailfish@36.189-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) | 06:57 | |
| *** jalyst <jalyst!~textual@CPE-121-208-32-143.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) | 07:01 | |
| *** plfiorini <plfiorini!~plfiorini@net-93-71-167-190.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Sto andando via) | 07:03 | |
| *** nahka^ <nahka^!~nahka@dsl-roibrasgw1-54fb85-193.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 07:06 | |
| *** jalyst <jalyst!~textual@CPE-121-208-32-143.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has joined #sailfishos | 07:06 | |
| *** mhlavink_afk <mhlavink_afk!quassel@nat/redhat/x-ajtdtvtwjlccouof> has joined #sailfishos | 07:08 | |
| *** jalyst <jalyst!~textual@CPE-121-208-32-143.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) | 07:13 | |
| *** dafox <dafox!~dafox@145.15.244.19> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 07:13 | |
| *** nib <nib!~nib@213.160.158.74> has joined #sailfishos | 07:14 | |
| *** lukedirtwalker <lukedirtwalker!~lukedirtw@dhclient-91-190-9-156.flashcable.ch> has joined #sailfishos | 07:17 | |
| *** Ishmayeck <Ishmayeck!~Ishmayeck@209.141.36.223> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 07:25 | |
| *** kaari <kaari!~kaari@dsl-hkibrasgw1-58c01b-180.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) | 07:26 | |
| *** roboro <roboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has joined #sailfishos | 07:30 | |
| *** Ishmayeck <Ishmayeck!~Ishmayeck@n0t.today> has joined #sailfishos | 07:30 | |
| *** piggz <piggz!~piggz@host-80-43-93-242.as13285.net> has joined #sailfishos | 07:31 | |
| *** Venemo_j <Venemo_j!~venemo@fedora/Venemo> has joined #sailfishos | 07:32 | |
| *** Venemo_j <Venemo_j!~venemo@fedora/Venemo> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.8) | 07:38 | |
| *** hoodlum <hoodlum!felzon@27-32-32-174.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #sailfishos | 07:38 | |
| *** Guest48869 <Guest48869!~corne@84.245.63.165> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 07:47 | |
| *** Guest48869 <Guest48869!~corne@unaffiliated/corne> has joined #sailfishos | 07:47 | |
| *** Guest48869 is now known as corne | 07:47 | |
| *** gabriel9|work <gabriel9|work!~bojan@9-133-241-92-ptp-stat.customer.blic.net> has joined #sailfishos | 07:52 | |
| *** jalyst <jalyst!~textual@CPE-121-208-32-143.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has joined #sailfishos | 07:54 | |
| Armadillo | nazanin_ ping | 07:56 |
|---|---|---|
| Armadillo | nvm, writing an email to developer-care | 07:59 |
| *** cxl000 <cxl000!~cxl000@c27-253-5-120.brodm4.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #sailfishos | 08:02 | |
| *** jalyst <jalyst!~textual@CPE-121-208-32-143.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) | 08:04 | |
| *** jalyst <jalyst!~textual@CPE-121-208-32-143.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has joined #sailfishos | 08:05 | |
| *** rainemak <rainemak!~rainemak@2001:998:2a:dead:8868:60e5:4675:12ba> has joined #sailfishos | 08:05 | |
| *** crazy_imp <crazy_imp!~mj@unaffiliated/crazy-imp/x-8704303> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 08:06 | |
| *** betchou <betchou!~betchou@2001:6b0:1:1de0:20a:e4ff:fe39:cac8> has joined #sailfishos | 08:06 | |
| *** tzafrir <tzafrir!~tzafrir@local.xorcom.com> has joined #sailfishos | 08:07 | |
| *** PMG <PMG!~PMG@2001:998:2a:dead:9008:3c6e:bcbb:863a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 08:07 | |
| *** crazy_imp <crazy_imp!~mj@a89-182-81-12.net-htp.de> has joined #sailfishos | 08:08 | |
| *** crazy_imp <crazy_imp!~mj@a89-182-81-12.net-htp.de> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 08:08 | |
| *** crazy_imp <crazy_imp!~mj@unaffiliated/crazy-imp/x-8704303> has joined #sailfishos | 08:08 | |
| *** Aciid_ is now known as Aciid | 08:20 | |
| *** Aciid <Aciid!~aciid@abusing.systems> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 08:20 | |
| *** Aciid <Aciid!~aciid@unaffiliated/aciid> has joined #sailfishos | 08:20 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffb7> has joined #sailfishos | 08:21 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@46.218.109.88> has joined #sailfishos | 08:22 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@46.218.109.88> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 08:22 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@fedora/SePhIr0tH> has joined #sailfishos | 08:22 | |
| *** SfietKonstantinW <SfietKonstantinW!c2623324@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.98.51.36> has joined #sailfishos | 08:27 | |
| *** tanty_off is now known as tanty | 08:36 | |
| *** piggz <piggz!~piggz@host-80-43-93-242.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 08:47 | |
| *** leinir <leinir!~leinir@amarok/usability/leinir> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 08:48 | |
| *** jjanvier <jjanvier!~jjanvier@glo44-2-82-224-115-167.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #sailfishos | 08:49 | |
| *** daitheflu <daitheflu!5f8299aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.130.153.170> has joined #sailfishos | 08:52 | |
| *** jjanvier_ <jjanvier_!~jjanvier@glo44-2-82-224-115-167.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #sailfishos | 08:59 | |
| *** hoodlum <hoodlum!felzon@27-32-32-174.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 09:01 | |
| nazanin_ | Armadillo: pong | 09:01 |
| nazanin_ | Armadillo: ok, let me know when you send it so that I can check :) | 09:02 |
| *** N-Mi <N-Mi!~nicolas@calvix/staff/N-Mi> has joined #sailfishos | 09:02 | |
| *** betchou <betchou!~betchou@2001:6b0:1:1de0:20a:e4ff:fe39:cac8> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte) | 09:03 | |
| *** nazanin_ is now known as nazanin | 09:04 | |
| *** jjanvier__ <jjanvier__!~jjanvier@glo44-2-82-224-115-167.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #sailfishos | 09:04 | |
| *** jjanvier <jjanvier!~jjanvier@glo44-2-82-224-115-167.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 09:04 | |
| *** Kabouik_ <Kabouik_!~quassel@147.99.218.243> has joined #sailfishos | 09:04 | |
| *** jjanvier_ <jjanvier_!~jjanvier@glo44-2-82-224-115-167.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host) | 09:05 | |
| *** jjanvier <jjanvier!~jjanvier@glo44-2-82-224-115-167.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #sailfishos | 09:05 | |
| *** jjanvier <jjanvier!~jjanvier@glo44-2-82-224-115-167.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 09:09 | |
| *** jjanvier__ <jjanvier__!~jjanvier@glo44-2-82-224-115-167.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 09:09 | |
| *** chriadam is now known as chriadam|away | 09:09 | |
| *** samikshan|afk is now known as samikshan | 09:10 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffb7> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 09:10 | |
| Armadillo | nazanin already done two hours ago ;) | 09:13 |
| nazanin | Armadillo: ah, okay :) | 09:13 |
| *** krendil <krendil!~krendil@218.53.96.58.static.exetel.com.au> has joined #sailfishos | 09:17 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@ipbcc243dc.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #sailfishos | 09:17 | |
| *** roboro <roboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 09:19 | |
| *** roboro <roboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has joined #sailfishos | 09:20 | |
| *** kunev <kunev!~kunev@93.152.167.79> has joined #sailfishos | 09:22 | |
| *** goroboro <goroboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has joined #sailfishos | 09:23 | |
| *** roboro <roboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 09:24 | |
| *** krendil <krendil!~krendil@218.53.96.58.static.exetel.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 09:25 | |
| *** Juukks <Juukks!575ec91f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.94.201.31> has joined #sailfishos | 09:33 | |
| Juukks | Hi, I would like to ask does Sailfish OS support IPv6? I have tried to activate it from network side in 3G without luck. | 09:34 |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@aaeo104.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #sailfishos | 09:35 | |
| *** krendil <krendil!~krendil@218.53.96.58.static.exetel.com.au> has joined #sailfishos | 09:35 | |
| pp | for wlan works fine, for mobile it's in progress I think | 09:35 |
| ikarus | Juukks: I've used it on wifi, Linux and Qt (and Gecko) support it, so why not | 09:35 |
| flux | I seem to recall it was mentioned in the roadmap as well, so it will be there (for mobile) | 09:36 |
| pp | see https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2015-February/005661.html | 09:36 |
| pp | hopefully in time for the national ipv6 launch day :P | 09:39 |
| flux | support for 6rd would be nice as well.. and why not 6to4 as well. | 09:40 |
| Mikaela | I think that at least Sonera in Finland has 6rd | 09:42 |
| *** wickwire <wickwire!~wickwire@a81-84-186-248.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #sailfishos | 09:42 | |
| *** N-Mi <N-Mi!~nicolas@calvix/staff/N-Mi> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte) | 09:45 | |
| *** N-Mi <N-Mi!~nicolas@calvix/staff/N-Mi> has joined #sailfishos | 09:45 | |
| *** Blizzz <Blizzz!~blizzz@ubuntu/member/blizzz> has joined #sailfishos | 09:50 | |
| Juukks | pp: thanks, same reason why I tried to test it is the official launching day | 09:51 |
| *** samikshan is now known as samikshan|afk | 09:53 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has joined #sailfishos | 10:09 | |
| *** lukedirtwalker <lukedirtwalker!~lukedirtw@dhclient-91-190-9-156.flashcable.ch> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 10:19 | |
| *** mozggg <mozggg!~igor@mail.sibatom.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) | 10:30 | |
| *** cvp_ <cvp_!~cvp@dslb-092-078-108-195.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #sailfishos | 10:32 | |
| *** ahiemstra_ is now known as ahiemstra | 10:34 | |
| *** Atomim <Atomim!atomim@kapsi.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 10:44 | |
| *** ruskie <ruskie!ruskie@sourcemage/mage/ruskie> has quit IRC (Excess Flood) | 10:47 | |
| *** ruskie <ruskie!ruskie@sourcemage/mage/ruskie> has joined #sailfishos | 10:49 | |
| *** Sail0r2 <Sail0r2!~Sail0r@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffb4> has joined #sailfishos | 10:58 | |
| *** Sail0r2 <Sail0r2!~Sail0r@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffb4> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 11:00 | |
| *** samikshan|afk is now known as samikshan | 11:04 | |
| *** inte_awa` is now known as _inte_ | 11:13 | |
| *** zGrr <zGrr!~grr@185.13.106.75> has joined #sailfishos | 11:15 | |
| _inte_ | hello Jolla! | 11:16 |
| *** inte <inte!~inte@p5B0411F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 11:17 | |
| *** inte <inte!~inte@p5B0411F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 11:17 | |
| *** inte <inte!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has joined #sailfishos | 11:17 | |
| Yaniel | hello there | 11:18 |
| *** Behold <Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory> has joined #sailfishos | 11:18 | |
| Mikaela | hi | 11:19 |
| Mikaela | does anyone have any idea on schedule of that early access? | 11:20 |
| *** piratenpanda <piratenpanda!~panda@pD9E1D747.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 11:20 | |
| *** _inte_ <_inte_!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | 11:20 | |
| *** piratenpanda <piratenpanda!~panda@pD9E1D747.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has left #sailfishos | 11:28 | |
| *** spider-mario <spider-mario!~spidermar@ppp-seco21th2-46-193-173-128.wb.wifirst.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 11:33 | |
| flux | maybe if DNA got 6rd or native v6 rolling as well, there could be some marketing visibility on the ipv6 day?-) | 11:36 |
| pp | they're aiming for that, I'm sure | 11:38 |
| *** inte is now known as inte_away | 11:38 | |
| *** goroboro <goroboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 11:41 | |
| flux | ah, they are participants in the ipv6nyt.fi | 11:42 |
| *** goroboro <goroboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has joined #sailfishos | 11:42 | |
| Mikaela | Elisa has also promised to participate, but no test group or anything yet | 11:42 |
| *** flywheel <flywheel!~flywheel@80.72.153.53> has joined #sailfishos | 11:46 | |
| *** spiiroin <spiiroin!~spiiroin@2001:998:2a:dead:a574:d9ed:dc98:7105> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 11:55 | |
| *** tat <tat!~tat@37.120.12.202> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 12:07 | |
| Juukks | Yep, we will participate | 12:08 |
| Juukks | At DNA | 12:08 |
| Nicd- | define "participate" :) | 12:09 |
| *** tat <tat!~tat@37.120.12.202> has joined #sailfishos | 12:10 | |
| Nicd- | will it actually have an impact for end users? are you going to roll out ipv6 or just start testing it? | 12:10 |
| *** lukedirtwalker <lukedirtwalker!~lukedirtw@91.190.9.156> has joined #sailfishos | 12:11 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as _inte_ | 12:11 | |
| _inte_ | got disconnected | 12:12 |
| _inte_ | again, did anybody recognize my bug report https://together.jolla.com/users/3617/inte/ | 12:12 |
| _inte_ | seems to be related to the virtual keyboard | 12:12 |
| Juuba | which bug? | 12:13 |
| Nicd- | can you link to the actual post? | 12:13 |
| _inte_ | ups sorry | 12:14 |
| _inte_ | i will look it up | 12:14 |
| *** cvp_ <cvp_!~cvp@dslb-092-078-108-195.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Verlassend) | 12:14 | |
| _inte_ | https://together.jolla.com/question/80738/jolla-screen-becomes-unresponsive-in-various-scenarious/ | 12:14 |
| pp | for fixed connections setting up ipv6 per customer may be tricky | 12:16 |
| pp | (for mobile just tell wannabe testers to use internet6 for the APN or whatnot :P ) | 12:16 |
| flux | well, 6to4 is simple, and 6rd should be just as simple, though it requires the ISP to do some setting up. | 12:19 |
| flux | apparently the 6rd address is formed something like: isp-v6-prefix::ips-v4-suffix::local and you get the required parts via DHCPv4 option 6RD | 12:22 |
| _inte_ | is this a known bug? | 12:22 |
| *** fmunozs <fmunozs!~frod@pdpc/supporter/active/fmunozs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 12:24 | |
| pp | customers suddenly having no firewall on their windows xp box :P | 12:25 |
| Mikaela | did Windows XP even support IPv6? | 12:25 |
| *** prophecy <prophecy!~prophecy@2a02:810b:380:2c4:8e89:a5ff:fec6:eb43> has joined #sailfishos | 12:25 | |
| Mikaela | or do they think that NAT is firewall? | 12:26 |
| pp | hmn, might be you needed to enable it manually but it did | 12:26 |
| pp | and nat certainly protects from a lot of end-user stupidity despite it not being a firewall as such | 12:27 |
| _inte_ | Nicd-: ping | 12:33 |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 12:34 | |
| *** rangoy_ is now known as rangoy | 12:38 | |
| tigeli | Juukks: the current release does not support ipv6/ipv4v6 in mobile, the next release will support it in middleware but no UI. | 12:40 |
| tigeli | flux: I'm not currently planning to implement any 6rd or 6to4 support, though nothing prevents using it.. there is just no ui other cli. | 12:42 |
| tigeli | flux: and.. dna has already native ipv4v6 for mobile in beta | 12:42 |
| tigeli | flux: sonera has ipv4v6 running, but they do not answer to router solicitation | 12:43 |
| Mikaela | when is the next release released? | 12:43 |
| tigeli | Mikaela: real soon now | 12:43 |
| Mikaela | ™ | 12:43 |
| tigeli | Mikaela: "As for the next OS release, we are currently at release candidate 5 for Yliaavanlampi (update 11) and expect to have another release candidate before we can decide on the release schedule. " | 12:45 |
| tigeli | Mikaela: on 13th | 12:45 |
| lukedirtwalker | Is the media-controls (lockscreen) already contained in this one? | 12:46 |
| tigeli | lukedirtwalker: no, it's under review | 12:46 |
| Yaniel | tigeli: and what timescale does your rc cycle have? | 12:46 |
| lukedirtwalker | tigeli: ok, thanks | 12:46 |
| _inte_ | i have that through patchmanager | 12:46 |
| Nicd- | _inte_: I don't know | 12:47 |
| _inte_ | Nicd-: thanks | 12:47 |
| _inte_ | I read about that bug in a (German) forum | 12:48 |
| tigeli | Yaniel: I can't give you any _static_ timescale.. as in sometimes there is no RC until bug x is fixed etc. :) | 12:48 |
| _inte_ | maybe it's related to the keyboard language... | 12:48 |
| _inte_ | don't know | 12:48 |
| _inte_ | the virtual keyboard seems to remain active but not visible resulting in apps loosing their functionality | 12:49 |
| _inte_ | tried to log in via ssh and reset vk | 12:49 |
| _inte_ | doesnt work :( | 12:49 |
| Mikaela | tigeli: early access or stable? | 12:49 |
| giucam | _inte_: know. a way to reproduce it would be really helpful | 12:50 |
| flux | _inte_, did you use an android application with vkb? | 12:50 |
| _inte_ | flux: happens to both android (whatsapp) and genuine (e.g. email, messages) apps | 12:50 |
| flux | I've had some funny interactions with that in some cases when the keyboard opens in the background or something. but I haven't actually entered a situation where I would need to do something drastic to get out of it. | 12:51 |
| _inte_ | giucam: for me the easiest way to reproduce it is to hand my phone to my little daughter (2.5y) :) | 12:51 |
| _inte_ | giucam: i guess it might be related to fast and planless touchscreen inputs :) | 12:51 |
| flux | well it seems obvious then, you should ship her to jolla hq for further testing :P | 12:51 |
| _inte_ | hehe | 12:51 |
| _inte_ | no way :) | 12:51 |
| _inte_ | some other guy reported a similar bug with his email app (it's linked from my report) | 12:54 |
| _inte_ | i guess it's not only similar but the same | 12:54 |
| *** krendil <krendil!~krendil@218.53.96.58.static.exetel.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 12:55 | |
| *** spiiroin <spiiroin!~spiiroin@178-55-146-216.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 12:59 | |
| _inte_ | https://together.jolla.com/question/80733/e-mail-app-looses-pulley-menu/ | 13:01 |
| _inte_ | all the users reporting the bug seem to use german keyboard layout | 13:03 |
| _inte_ | i just switched to english to see if it still occurs | 13:03 |
| *** martyone_ <martyone_!~martyone@193.179.215.102> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 13:03 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 13:11 | |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-182-253-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 13:13 | |
| _inte_ | ok I'll be back later | 13:13 |
| *** _inte_ is now known as inte_away | 13:13 | |
| coderus | ScreenTapSHot released in Jolla store. Upgrade to increase downloads counter :) | 13:21 |
| tigeli | Mikaela: well.. both?-) | 13:22 |
| Mikaela | on 13th? | 13:22 |
| tigeli | Mikaela: no, the mail which had that info was sent to devel@lists.sailfishos.org on 13th of Feb. :) | 13:26 |
| kimmoli | coderus: you have proximity screenshot already, with toholed ... | 13:32 |
| *** billtux <billtux!~wfleming@bishop.acf.ed.ac.uk> has joined #sailfishos | 13:46 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 13:47 | |
| *** Sequenced <Sequenced!~sailfish@91-157-184-159.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 13:54 | |
| coderus | kimmoli: i know :) | 13:55 |
| coderus | it's just poc of new technologies | 13:55 |
| kimmoli | ok | 13:56 |
| *** Kabouik__ <Kabouik__!~quassel@147.99.218.243> has joined #sailfishos | 13:57 | |
| *** Kabouik_ <Kabouik_!~quassel@147.99.218.243> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 14:00 | |
| *** phaeron <phaeron!~phaeron@62-78-152-10.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | 14:00 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 14:00 | |
| *** martyone_ <martyone_!~martyone@ip-4-23.hlucinnet.cz> has joined #sailfishos | 14:05 | |
| kimmoli | hmm looks interesting.. | 14:06 |
| kimmoli | now just need list of running apps | 14:12 |
| *** inte_away is now known as _inte_ | 14:22 | |
| *** _inte_ is now known as inte_away | 14:22 | |
| SfietKonstantinW | kimmoli: list of running apps ? tricky :/ | 14:23 |
| coderus | kimmoli: what? | 14:24 |
| kimmoli | need to dig some sailfish.private or waht was it | 14:24 |
| kimmoli | tried the grep ps way... somewhat working, but not perfect | 14:24 |
| kimmoli | 16:13 < kimmoli> now just need list of running apps | 14:25 |
| coderus | you mean list of tasks? | 14:28 |
| kimmoli | apps with coverpage | 14:28 |
| coderus | yeah, just windows-like names :D | 14:28 |
| coderus | i mean task is process with gui :D | 14:29 |
| coderus | you just need liblipstick-qt5 | 14:29 |
| kimmoli | "just" | 14:29 |
| coderus | i think everything you need is inside | 14:29 |
| kimmoli | hmm | 14:29 |
| kimmoli | is the screenhottap wtfpl ? :) | 14:30 |
| kimmoli | ScreenTapSHot | 14:30 |
| *** flywheel__ <flywheel__!~flywheel@80.72.153.53> has joined #sailfishos | 14:34 | |
| *** flywheel <flywheel!~flywheel@80.72.153.53> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 14:35 | |
| *** sletta <sletta!~sletta@74.170.102.62.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Quit: sletta) | 14:38 | |
| tadzik | heh, I sent an email to sailfish-devel before I confirmed my subscription, can someone accept it? | 14:38 |
| coderus | tadzik: https://lists.sailfishos.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel ? | 14:40 |
| coderus | kimmoli: sure | 14:40 |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 14:40 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 14:41 | |
| tadzik | coderus: aye | 14:43 |
| tadzik | or should I just resend it | 14:43 |
| *** gabriel9|work <gabriel9|work!~bojan@9-133-241-92-ptp-stat.customer.blic.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 14:44 | |
| *** gabriel9 <gabriel9!~bojan@fasecuremail.com> has joined #sailfishos | 14:44 | |
| *** cvp_ <cvp_!~cvp@dslb-092-078-108-195.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #sailfishos | 14:46 | |
| *** gabriel9 <gabriel9!~bojan@fasecuremail.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 14:47 | |
| coderus | you should resend it | 14:47 |
| *** gabriel9|work <gabriel9|work!~bojan@9-133-241-92-ptp-stat.customer.blic.net> has joined #sailfishos | 14:48 | |
| kimmoli | cybette: ah that is tomorrow... thanks for reminder | 14:49 |
| cybette | kimmoli: yep :) | 14:50 |
| *** gabriel9 <gabriel9!~bojan@fasecuremail.com> has joined #sailfishos | 14:54 | |
| *** gabriel9|work <gabriel9|work!~bojan@9-133-241-92-ptp-stat.customer.blic.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 14:54 | |
| *** piratenpanda <piratenpanda!~panda@pD9E1D747.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 14:55 | |
| *** mkollaro <mkollaro!~mkollaro@91-145-85-115.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 14:56 | |
| *** piratenpanda <piratenpanda!~panda@pD9E1D747.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has left #sailfishos | 14:58 | |
| *** vakkov <vakkov!~vakkov@134.83.207.29> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 15:04 | |
| Mikaela | tigeli: I am afraid I am not on that list and I don't think I understood when will the early access appear to updates in system settings | 15:05 |
| Mikaela | sorry, school ended and I was in bus for hour and grocery shopping etc. | 15:05 |
| *** Morpog_PC <Morpog_PC!~Morpog_PC@185.8.85.171> has joined #sailfishos | 15:06 | |
| *** vakkov <vakkov!~vakkov@s3n105.brunel.ac.uk> has joined #sailfishos | 15:18 | |
| coderus | Patch for returning to eventsview after unlocking device when peeking from bottom: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-return-eventsview-after-unlocking-device | 15:20 |
| *** Nightmare__ <Nightmare__!~Nightmare@HSI-KBW-046-005-173-198.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #sailfishos | 15:26 | |
| *** GenesisAquarion <GenesisAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 15:26 | |
| *** piratenpanda <piratenpanda!~panda@pD9E1D747.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 15:28 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 15:30 | |
| *** Kitt3n <Kitt3n!~red@unaffiliated/kitt3n> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 15:32 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 15:37 | |
| *** never_ <never_!~never@p57B2DC45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 15:39 | |
| *** mkollaro <mkollaro!~mkollaro@91-145-85-115.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 15:40 | |
| *** GenesisAquarion <GenesisAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 15:40 | |
| *** piratenpanda <piratenpanda!~panda@pD9E1D747.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) | 15:44 | |
| *** phaeron <phaeron!~phaeron@188-67-17-0.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 15:51 | |
| *** martyone_ <martyone_!~martyone@ip-4-23.hlucinnet.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 15:53 | |
| *** zGrr <zGrr!~grr@185.13.106.75> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 15:58 | |
| *** cornerman <cornerman!~cornerman@xdsl-87-79-140-171.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) | 15:59 | |
| lukedirtwalker | Can anyone tell me why qt5-qtmultimedia-plugin-audio-pulseaudio is not allowed in harbour? | 16:00 |
| *** tanty is now known as tanty_off | 16:01 | |
| *** cvp_ <cvp_!~cvp@dslb-092-078-108-195.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Verlassend) | 16:01 | |
| *** vakkov <vakkov!~vakkov@s3n105.brunel.ac.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 16:02 | |
| *** cybrNaut <cybrNaut!cybrNaut@2001:0:53aa:64c:300f:a818:bcca:66c4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 16:02 | |
| *** nib <nib!~nib@213.160.158.74> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 16:02 | |
| *** cybrNaut <cybrNaut!cybrNaut@2001:0:53aa:64c:300f:a818:bcca:66c4> has joined #sailfishos | 16:04 | |
| *** Morpog_PC <Morpog_PC!~Morpog_PC@185.8.85.171> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 16:05 | |
| *** uuhimhere <uuhimhere!~uuhimhere@jrc-52-142.tm.net.my> has joined #sailfishos | 16:06 | |
| uuhimhere | hi guys just wondring if anybody knows if selinux is part of CM | 16:08 |
| tadzik | CM? | 16:11 |
| *** vakkov <vakkov!~vakkov@134.83.207.29> has joined #sailfishos | 16:14 | |
| *** gabriel9 <gabriel9!~bojan@fasecuremail.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 16:15 | |
| *** sandy_locke <sandy_locke!~sandy_loc@AMontpellier-555-1-185-248.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 16:15 | |
| *** sandy_locke <sandy_locke!~sandy_loc@AMontpellier-555-1-185-248.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #sailfishos | 16:15 | |
| tigeli | Mikaela: if you follow together.jolla.com you will now when the update 11 is available | 16:18 |
| Mikaela | I see | 16:18 |
| Mikaela | going there says that my question on https://together.jolla.com/question/81665/feature-request-browser-undo-close-tab/ has got popularity | 16:19 |
| *** PMG <PMG!~PMG@host-109-204-159-174.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net> has joined #sailfishos | 16:19 | |
| Mikaela | I will probably add the feed announcement to my bot if it's not too spammy | 16:19 |
| daitheflu | Mikaela: I don't think people are still very active on TJC | 16:24 |
| Mikaela | oh, that probably explains why it's giving me so much badges and karma and everything without me having any idea on how to use forums :D | 16:24 |
| Mikaela | there are new questions every day though and the oldest on the first page is 22 hours ago | 16:25 |
| uuhimhere | is CM affiliated with m$ | 16:27 |
| Yaniel | what is CM | 16:27 |
| daitheflu | Mikaela: yep, but there are also a lot of questions that just stay unanswered | 16:27 |
| uuhimhere | cyanogenmod | 16:28 |
| daitheflu | Mikaela: anyway, I just voted for your idea, (undo close tab) | 16:28 |
| Mikaela | I see | 16:28 |
| Mikaela | uuhimhere: googling they have invested to it http://www.techtimes.com/articles/30110/20150201/microsoft-invest-cyanogenmod-what-mean-google.htm but otherwise no idea | 16:30 |
| *** uuhimhere <uuhimhere!~uuhimhere@jrc-52-142.tm.net.my> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 16:31 | |
| *** uuhimhere <uuhimhere!~uuhimhere@jrc-52-142.tm.net.my> has joined #sailfishos | 16:33 | |
| *** Blizzz <Blizzz!~blizzz@ubuntu/member/blizzz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 16:33 | |
| *** zalan_ <zalan_!~zalan@2601:9:8280:11:997f:63c8:7ffc:c506> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 16:35 | |
| *** billtux <billtux!~wfleming@bishop.acf.ed.ac.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 16:35 | |
| *** zalan <zalan!~zalan@c-76-126-190-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #sailfishos | 16:35 | |
| Yaniel | aaaaargh OBS | 16:35 |
| Mikaela | ? | 16:35 |
| Yaniel | build.merproject.org | 16:36 |
| Mikaela | oh, that thing | 16:36 |
| Mikaela | what did it do? | 16:36 |
| Yaniel | nothing | 16:36 |
| uuhimhere | is it possible to use apparmor over selinux in CM? | 16:37 |
| Mikaela | uuhimhere: you might want to notice that Sailfish has nothing to do with CM and try "/msg alis list cyanogenmod" or "/msg alis list * -topic *cyanogenmod*" | 16:38 |
| *** zalan <zalan!~zalan@c-76-126-190-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 16:40 | |
| *** melonipoika <melonipoika!~quassel@91-158-69-143.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 16:40 | |
| *** inte_awa` <inte_awa`!~inte@p5B041ECD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 16:41 | |
| *** inte_awa` <inte_awa`!~inte@p5B041ECD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 16:41 | |
| *** inte_awa` <inte_awa`!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has joined #sailfishos | 16:41 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 16:42 | |
| *** inte_away <inte_away!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 16:42 | |
| Yaniel | I mean the idea of OBS is nice and all | 16:43 |
| Yaniel | until you find yourself having to write 20 spec files to build a single dependency for your project | 16:43 |
| Yaniel | nothing provides pkg-config? seriously? | 16:43 |
| Yaniel | I can understand openal-soft-devel and libvpx-devel | 16:44 |
| Yaniel | actually I'm surprised it is not complaining about libsodium-devel | 16:44 |
| Yaniel | unless it pulls that from the other package in my project | 16:45 |
| *** gexc_ <gexc_!~gexc@60.188.61.101> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 16:45 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 16:46 | |
| *** qt_junkie <qt_junkie!~qt_junkie@5.175.138.65> has joined #sailfishos | 16:49 | |
| Yaniel | might as well wait a couple of years before trying to write a native tox client for sailfish | 16:49 |
| Yaniel | granted, that would have the additional plus of a (hopefully) stable api, if the project still exists then | 16:49 |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 16:50 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | 16:51 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@fedora/SePhIr0tH> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 16:52 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 16:53 | |
| *** never_ <never_!~never@p57B2DC45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 16:54 | |
| SfietKonstantinW | Yaniel: welcome to hell, dependency hell | 16:55 |
| Yaniel | sigh | 16:57 |
| Yaniel | well, maybe if I get anywhere with this it will take me less than a week to set up a new package someday | 16:58 |
| *** zalan <zalan!~zalan@17.244.160.107> has joined #sailfishos | 17:02 | |
| *** PMG <PMG!~PMG@host-109-204-159-174.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 17:04 | |
| *** phaeron <phaeron!~phaeron@188-67-17-0.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 17:04 | |
| *** dafox <dafox!~dafox@145.15.244.31> has joined #sailfishos | 17:04 | |
| uuhimhere | hi guys does sailfishos include apparmor | 17:08 |
| Yaniel | no | 17:08 |
| Yaniel | they are currently investigating selinux | 17:08 |
| uuhimhere | can it | 17:08 |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has joined #sailfishos | 17:09 | |
| uuhimhere | is thst because of CM compativility | 17:09 |
| *** kunev <kunev!~kunev@93.152.167.79> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 17:12 | |
| *** phaeron <phaeron!~phaeron@188-67-17-0.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 17:20 | |
| *** daitheflu <daitheflu!5f8299aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.130.153.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 17:23 | |
| *** nib <nib!~nib@109.110.67.35> has joined #sailfishos | 17:23 | |
| *** uuhimhere <uuhimhere!~uuhimhere@jrc-52-142.tm.net.my> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@aaeo104.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** Guest77805 <Guest77805!~ahamalai@83.150.122.198> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** ahiemstra <ahiemstra!~quassel@5353054E.cm-6-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** phlixi <phlixi!~phlixi@ppp-212-114-183-87.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** s1gk1ll <s1gk1ll!~sigkill@bl12-179-75.dsl.telepac.pt> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** TW1920 <TW1920!~TW1920@help-book.eu> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** rysiek|pl <rysiek|pl!~quassel@94-240-35-103.lukman.pl> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** Tofe <Tofe!Tofe@fiona.nas-admin.org> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** mikkoh <mikkoh!mikkoh@hilla.kapsi.fi> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** Mirv <Mirv!~tajyrink@ubuntu/member/mirv> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** Frye <Frye!~Frye@merivesi.fi> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** Master-Passeli <Master-Passeli!~joni@a91-152-120-238.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** trench <trench!trench@unaffiliated/trench> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** Sage__ <Sage__!sage@kapsi.fi> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** Uninstall <Uninstall!~quassel@kde/developer/bettio> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** rozhkov <rozhkov!~rozhkov@192.194.199.35> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** tekojo <tekojo!quassel@nat/digia/x-basfnlozszramxdv> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** lazybear <lazybear!~lazybear@radium.atom.fi> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** jake9xx <jake9xx!foobar@vps20.netsplit.info> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** sikakraa <sikakraa!sikakraa@hilla.kapsi.fi> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** Zippi <Zippi!zippi@hilla.kapsi.fi> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** bluszcz <bluszcz!~bluszcz@idoru.pl> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** sledges <sledges!~sleleiva@unaffiliated/sledgeas> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** Elleo <Elleo!~Elleo@libre.fm/hacker/elleo> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** two3four <two3four!~two3four@c-f5a172d5.05-339-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** mhall119 <mhall119!~mhall@ubuntu/member/mhall119> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 17:25 | |
| *** phaeron <phaeron!~phaeron@188-67-17-0.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 17:25 | |
| *** radekp <radekp!~radek@82.113.39.213> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 17:28 | |
| *** PMG <PMG!~PMG@host-109-204-159-174.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net> has joined #sailfishos | 17:30 | |
| *** sandy_locke <sandy_locke!~sandy_loc@AMontpellier-555-1-185-248.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 17:31 | |
| *** uuhimhere <uuhimhere!~uuhimhere@jrc-52-142.tm.net.my> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@aaeo104.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** Guest77805 <Guest77805!~ahamalai@83.150.122.198> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** ahiemstra <ahiemstra!~quassel@5353054E.cm-6-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** phlixi <phlixi!~phlixi@ppp-212-114-183-87.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** s1gk1ll <s1gk1ll!~sigkill@bl12-179-75.dsl.telepac.pt> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** TW1920 <TW1920!~TW1920@help-book.eu> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** rysiek|pl <rysiek|pl!~quassel@94-240-35-103.lukman.pl> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** Tofe <Tofe!Tofe@fiona.nas-admin.org> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** mikkoh <mikkoh!mikkoh@hilla.kapsi.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** Mirv <Mirv!~tajyrink@ubuntu/member/mirv> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** Frye <Frye!~Frye@merivesi.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** Master-Passeli <Master-Passeli!~joni@a91-152-120-238.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** trench <trench!trench@unaffiliated/trench> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** Sage__ <Sage__!sage@kapsi.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** Uninstall <Uninstall!~quassel@kde/developer/bettio> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** rozhkov <rozhkov!~rozhkov@192.194.199.35> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** tekojo <tekojo!quassel@nat/digia/x-basfnlozszramxdv> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** lazybear <lazybear!~lazybear@radium.atom.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** jake9xx <jake9xx!foobar@vps20.netsplit.info> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** sikakraa <sikakraa!sikakraa@hilla.kapsi.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** Zippi <Zippi!zippi@hilla.kapsi.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** bluszcz <bluszcz!~bluszcz@idoru.pl> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** sledges <sledges!~sleleiva@unaffiliated/sledgeas> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** Elleo <Elleo!~Elleo@libre.fm/hacker/elleo> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** two3four <two3four!~two3four@c-f5a172d5.05-339-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** mhall119 <mhall119!~mhall@ubuntu/member/mhall119> has joined #sailfishos | 17:31 | |
| *** sandy_locke <sandy_locke!~sandy_loc@AMontpellier-555-1-185-248.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #sailfishos | 17:32 | |
| uuhimhere | is this apparmor on android: http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/android/f/509/t/258697 | 17:43 |
| *** PMG <PMG!~PMG@host-109-204-159-174.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 17:43 | |
| *** s5pik3 <s5pik3!~Spike@163.5.121.13> has joined #sailfishos | 17:43 | |
| *** r0kk3rz <r0kk3rz!~chatzilla@host-92-15-19-97.as43234.net> has joined #sailfishos | 17:44 | |
| *** PMG <PMG!~PMG@host-109-204-159-174.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net> has joined #sailfishos | 17:46 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 17:46 | |
| *** dafox <dafox!~dafox@145.15.244.31> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 17:47 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has joined #sailfishos | 17:53 | |
| *** sandy_locke <sandy_locke!~sandy_loc@AMontpellier-555-1-185-248.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 17:55 | |
| *** max87 <max87!~max87@ims1.ims-mail.in> has joined #sailfishos | 17:55 | |
| *** sandy_locke <sandy_locke!~sandy_loc@AMontpellier-555-1-185-248.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #sailfishos | 17:55 | |
| *** piratenpanda <piratenpanda!~panda@pD9E1D747.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 17:56 | |
| *** Kabouik__ <Kabouik__!~quassel@147.99.218.243> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 17:56 | |
| *** popey <popey!~alan@ubuntu/member/popey> has joined #sailfishos | 17:56 | |
| *** qqK <qqK!~qqK@h-72-191.a163.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #sailfishos | 17:56 | |
| *** samikshan is now known as samikshan|afk | 17:57 | |
| Yaniel | I'm still pretty sure my spec files are doing something horrible | 17:57 |
| *** samikshan|afk is now known as samikshan | 17:57 | |
| Yaniel | but I have no idea what, and hey, the packages build | 17:57 |
| Yaniel | (still a few left to go) | 17:58 |
| *** gogeta <gogeta!~gogeta@net-188-217-76-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #sailfishos | 17:59 | |
| coderus | gift for attah: https://github.com/CODeRUS/aliendalvik-control | 18:01 |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@aaeo104.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 18:03 | |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@aaeo104.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #sailfishos | 18:04 | |
| *** M4rtinK <M4rtinK!~M4rtinK@ip-89-177-124-246.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #sailfishos | 18:06 | |
| *** krobelus <krobelus!~u@178-191-109-182.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 18:07 | |
| *** krobelus <krobelus!~u@212-197-185-124.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #sailfishos | 18:09 | |
| *** kunev <kunev!~kunev@78-83-70-142.spectrumnet.bg> has joined #sailfishos | 18:11 | |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@aaeo104.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 18:11 | |
| *** RoKenn <RoKenn!~RoKenn@2001:a60:153e:d201:b57d:6e4a:e27c:673a> has joined #sailfishos | 18:13 | |
| *** r0kk3rz <r0kk3rz!~chatzilla@host-92-15-19-97.as43234.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 18:15 | |
| *** jalyst <jalyst!~textual@CPE-121-208-32-143.azly1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) | 18:16 | |
| coderus | need to detect running app (topmost) name/process/path/pid/whatever | 18:21 |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@aaeo104.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #sailfishos | 18:23 | |
| *** tortoisedoc_ <tortoisedoc_!5b984c61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.152.76.97> has joined #sailfishos | 18:24 | |
| *** martyone_ <martyone_!~martyone@ip-4-23.hlucinnet.cz> has joined #sailfishos | 18:24 | |
| *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 18:26 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | duhduh | 18:27 |
| * tortoisedoc_ smells update baking | 18:27 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | nice! | 18:27 |
| Yaniel | wheeeereee | 18:27 |
| * tortoisedoc_ shock | 18:28 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | there was a blogpost! | 18:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | by the b0ss of j0lla! | 18:28 |
| * tortoisedoc_ hides | 18:28 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 18:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | is it just me | 18:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | or does SailfishSDK qtcreator nmake support only desktop builds | 18:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | doh | 18:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | cmake | 18:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | cmake for god's sak | 18:30 |
| *** kunev <kunev!~kunev@78-83-70-142.spectrumnet.bg> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 18:31 | |
| *** Eismann <Eismann!~quassel@82.158.21.247.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 18:33 | |
| *** cloanta_ <cloanta_!~sailfish@2a02:a03f:143b:1e00:5256:a8ff:fe01:18f9> has joined #sailfishos | 18:33 | |
| *** Eismann <Eismann!~quassel@82.158.21.247.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #sailfishos | 18:34 | |
| *** piratenpanda <piratenpanda!~panda@pD9E1D747.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) | 18:34 | |
| *** ejjoman <ejjoman!~ejjoman@p54AA614A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 18:35 | |
| *** ejjoman <ejjoman!~ejjoman@p54AA614A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 18:36 | |
| *** ejjoman <ejjoman!~ejjoman@p54AA614A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 18:36 | |
| uuhimhere | https://www.suse.com/support/security/apparmor/features/selinux_comparison.html | 18:37 |
| *** attah <attah!~attah@h-176-10-249-228.na.cust.bahnhof.se> has joined #sailfishos | 18:37 | |
| *** GenesisAquarion <GenesisAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 18:38 | |
| *** melonipoika <melonipoika!~quassel@91-158-69-143.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 18:41 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 18:42 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 18:43 | |
| *** uuhimhere <uuhimhere!~uuhimhere@jrc-52-142.tm.net.my> has left #sailfishos | 18:44 | |
| *** GenesisAquarion <GenesisAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | 18:46 | |
| *** nodevel <nodevel!~james@29.169.broadband10.iol.cz> has joined #sailfishos | 18:47 | |
| *** kunev <kunev!~kunev@78-83-70-142.spectrumnet.bg> has joined #sailfishos | 18:48 | |
| *** disharmonic <disharmonic!~disharmon@unaffiliated/disharmonic> has joined #sailfishos | 18:48 | |
| *** s5pik3 <s5pik3!~Spike@163.5.121.13> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte) | 18:52 | |
| *** gogeta <gogeta!~gogeta@net-188-217-76-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 18:55 | |
| *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has joined #sailfishos | 19:03 | |
| coderus | attah: ping | 19:03 |
| attah | blöörp | 19:03 |
| attah | oh, i meant "pong" | 19:03 |
| *** N-Mi_ <N-Mi_!~nicolas@calvix/staff/N-Mi> has joined #sailfishos | 19:04 | |
| coderus | attah: https://github.com/CODeRUS/aliendalvik-control | 19:05 |
| attah | Nice! | 19:06 |
| coderus | it works :) | 19:06 |
| coderus | dbus daemon as you want | 19:06 |
| attah | even on u11? | 19:07 |
| coderus | yes | 19:07 |
| coderus | on u11 you starting it with chroot | 19:07 |
| attah | ah, obviously :) | 19:07 |
| coderus | chroot /opt/alien /usr/bin/aliendalvik-control /system | 19:07 |
| coderus | attah: check code | 19:07 |
| attah | so just a small hack away from accepting intents instead of input it seems | 19:07 |
| coderus | it contains minimal required environment values | 19:08 |
| * attah is multitasking | 19:08 | |
| coderus | feel free to post requests to add functions here :) | 19:08 |
| coderus | i need a way to detect topmost application is android | 19:09 |
| attah | i'd like to be able to send intents, that's my main thing :) | 19:10 |
| attah | i'll poke around and see if i can assist with that | 19:10 |
| coderus | attah: just add sendIntents function here with params you need | 19:12 |
| coderus | show me how to send it and what parameters it need and how to test | 19:12 |
| *** never_ <never_!~never@p57B2DC45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 19:13 | |
| coderus | attah: https://github.com/CODeRUS/aliendalvik-control/blob/master/src/adaptor.cpp#L16 | 19:13 |
| coderus | just add new function like this one | 19:13 |
| attah | okidok :) | 19:13 |
| attah | unfortunately sdk is broken for me, so I can't test :( | 19:14 |
| attah | i need to buy a new computer :/ | 19:14 |
| coderus | lol | 19:14 |
| coderus | me too :D | 19:14 |
| coderus | my laptop is overheating :D | 19:14 |
| *** N-Mi <N-Mi!~nicolas@calvix/staff/N-Mi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 19:14 | |
| coderus | attah: show me how to send intent | 19:14 |
| attah | i bet you still have something better than a 2010 macbook air with the lowest spec | 19:15 |
| attah | it basically "am" instead of input an then "broadcast -a" | 19:15 |
| attah | so am.jar goes in classpath, and command is ...am.Am | 19:16 |
| *** filippz <filippz!~filippz@93-141-154-160.adsl.net.t-com.hr> has joined #sailfishos | 19:16 | |
| attah | i have it in my repo also | 19:17 |
| coderus | aha | 19:17 |
| *** zetaz <zetaz!~arno@149.58.88.79.rev.sfr.net> has joined #sailfishos | 19:17 | |
| coderus | what command to get available intents list? | 19:17 |
| *** vakkov <vakkov!~vakkov@134.83.207.29> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 19:17 | |
| attah | http://piratepad.net/kImiYIcoQF | 19:19 |
| attah | that's as i immagine it would look | 19:19 |
| attah | /opt/alien/system/bin/dumpsys package r | 19:19 |
| attah | to get intents and a bit more crap of entire system | 19:20 |
| attah | intents per app are in their respective manifest | 19:20 |
| attah | it looks like you went the extra mile and took only the good parts from the environment setup i sourced | 19:24 |
| *** plfiorini <plfiorini!~plfiorini@net-93-71-167-190.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #sailfishos | 19:25 | |
| *** max87 <max87!~max87@ims1.ims-mail.in> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 19:25 | |
| *** locusf <locusf!~locusf@87-100-237-235.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) | 19:26 | |
| coderus | attah: yes, i filtered it and it have only required environment | 19:27 |
| attah | that's very convenient for testing :) | 19:27 |
| *** locusf <locusf!~locusf@87-100-237-235.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 19:27 | |
| *** martyone_ <martyone_!~martyone@ip-4-23.hlucinnet.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 19:28 | |
| attah | but if it gets in to the os.. i think it's better off relying as much as possible on the env that is there in case it changes | 19:28 |
| attah | (even more than my scripts do) | 19:28 |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 19:32 | |
| *** R-Z <R-Z!~Rz@91-158-53-214.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 19:32 | |
| coderus | attah: there is no way to load environment from script | 19:32 |
| attah | no, but i'll do you one better :) | 19:32 |
| coderus | if it will be changed i'll update the app | 19:33 |
| attah | just throw it in /opt/alien/system/script/start_alien.sh | 19:33 |
| coderus | attah: okay, it's working: https://github.com/CODeRUS/aliendalvik-control/blob/master/src/adaptor.cpp#L26 | 19:33 |
| attah | :) | 19:34 |
| attah | cool | 19:34 |
| coderus | imtents have no parameters? like for browser open url in new tab, or i.e. | 19:34 |
| coderus | intents* | 19:34 |
| attah | hmm, some can have it i think | 19:35 |
| coderus | how to do it? | 19:35 |
| *** blabber <blabber!~tobi@pD958DB0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 19:35 | |
| attah | I'll check on that right after i add €100 to your indiegogo | 19:35 |
| coderus | :D | 19:36 |
| *** wickwire <wickwire!~wickwire@a81-84-186-248.cpe.netcabo.pt> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 19:37 | |
| *** cvp_ <cvp_!~cvp@p5DDB93C3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 19:37 | |
| attah | Done | 19:37 |
| coderus | omg, thanks :D | 19:38 |
| kimmoli | money well spent | 19:38 |
| attah | no problem.. you are saving me a lot of brain-hurt, and i have a reasonably well-paying job | 19:39 |
| *** gogeta <gogeta!~gogeta@net-188-217-76-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #sailfishos | 19:39 | |
| *** klopsi-u3 <klopsi-u3!~klopsi-u3@p4FD91FA3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Reconnecting) | 19:39 | |
| attah | kimmoli: indeed | 19:39 |
| *** klopsi-u3 <klopsi-u3!~klopsi-u3@p4FD91FA3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 19:39 | |
| *** dirkvl <dirkvl!~dirk@52D91535.cm-11-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #sailfishos | 19:40 | |
| *** Nokius_ <Nokius_!~Nokius@p5DDB70B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 19:40 | |
| coderus | attah: how to read AndroidManifest? | 19:41 |
| attah | is it some weird binary format? | 19:41 |
| attah | or do you mean how to find it? | 19:42 |
| coderus | yeah its in binary | 19:42 |
| attah | https://code.google.com/p/android-random/source/browse/trunk/axml2xml/axml2xml.pl | 19:42 |
| attah | that too is in my README.md ;) | 19:43 |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin <Sfiet_Konstantin!~sk@212-198-218-185.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #sailfishos | 19:43 | |
| coderus | okay | 19:43 |
| attah | haven't really looked at reverse engineering that | 19:43 |
| attah | i *think* there is some built-in tool to parse it too | 19:44 |
| *** Nokius <Nokius!~Nokius@p5DDB4C1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 19:44 | |
| attah | regarding parameters to intents.. seems to be a list of arbitrary key/value pairs.. sometimes called Bundle | 19:44 |
| attah | I'm looking at how they'd look on a command line now | 19:44 |
| coderus | attah: what module for use Unicode::String qw(utf16le); | 19:45 |
| attah | p5-unicode-string | 19:46 |
| attah | in macports anyway | 19:46 |
| coderus | no such package on device repos :( | 19:46 |
| coderus | okay, will do on pc | 19:46 |
| coderus | attah: also for firefox i'm looking http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24022847/android-open-firefox-intent-url-in-new-tab | 19:47 |
| coderus | if you can write command line arguments for this | 19:47 |
| attah | device might be another story.. i'll get on that after i find params | 19:47 |
| attah | i'll try :) | 19:47 |
| coderus | can't find package for devian too :D:D | 19:50 |
| coderus | okay found finally libunicode-string-perl | 19:50 |
| attah | :) | 19:52 |
| coderus | attah: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10260899 | 19:54 |
| attah | thank you :) | 19:55 |
| attah | not quite getting broadcast to work.. | 19:56 |
| attah | ./am.sh start -a android.intent.action.VIEW -n org.mozilla.firefox/org.mozilla.firefox.App -d www.purple.com | 19:56 |
| attah | but that does work | 19:57 |
| attah | and key/value paris seems to be added with some -e switchs | 19:57 |
| attah | see http://developer.android.com/tools/help/adb.html#IntentSpec | 19:57 |
| attah | coderus: to get current app.. | 20:04 |
| attah | /opt/alien/system/bin/dumpsys window windows | grep -E 'mCurrentFocus|mFocusedApp' | 20:04 |
| attah | if nothing is focused, it shows aliendalvik fakehome | 20:05 |
| attah | and i guess you can just have one method for start and one for broadcast, and start takes the -n stuff too | 20:08 |
| coderus | attah: works, thanks! | 20:08 |
| coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/aliendalvik-control/blob/master/src/adaptor.cpp#L31 | 20:08 |
| coderus | org.coderus.aliendalvik.control / org.coderus.aliendalvik.control.startIntent "-a android.intent.action.VIEW -n org.mozilla.firefox/org.mozilla.firefox.App -d www.google.com" | 20:08 |
| attah | :) | 20:08 |
| coderus | attah: thanks for focused | 20:09 |
| attah | perhaps it's just too much trouble to receive parameters in a list, a string will work fine at least until security comes around | 20:09 |
| attah | coderus: np | 20:09 |
| coderus | i want to hide builtin buttons and add OSD controls | 20:09 |
| coderus | attah: what you mean? | 20:10 |
| attah | with what part? | 20:10 |
| coderus | parameters in list | 20:10 |
| *** vakkov <vakkov!~vakkov@s3n105.brunel.ac.uk> has joined #sailfishos | 20:11 | |
| attah | i meant that parameters would be passed over dbus similar to the way it's in android.. and not a command line string | 20:11 |
| attah | i.e. key-value pairs and stuff that goes after -d and whatnot | 20:11 |
| coderus | i understand | 20:13 |
| coderus | but then need more info about params | 20:13 |
| coderus | i only implemented by info you gives to me | 20:14 |
| attah | did you look at the link i sent? | 20:14 |
| attah | about IntentSpec | 20:14 |
| *** nomeata <nomeata!~jojo@nomeata.de> has joined #sailfishos | 20:14 | |
| *** filippz <filippz!~filippz@93-141-154-160.adsl.net.t-com.hr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 20:15 | |
| *** nodevel <nodevel!~james@29.169.broadband10.iol.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 20:15 | |
| attah | There is this which looks promising: "Specification for <INTENT> arguments" | 20:15 |
| *** filippz <filippz!~filippz@93-143-138-240.adsl.net.t-com.hr> has joined #sailfishos | 20:15 | |
| coderus | sure, but i see no info about -n -d options | 20:16 |
| attah | it's a drop-down kind of thing | 20:16 |
| attah | so click it | 20:16 |
| coderus | oh :D | 20:16 |
| attah | sneaky, isn't it? | 20:17 |
| coderus | okay | 20:17 |
| coderus | need to think how to implement in over dbus | 20:17 |
| attah | yup | 20:17 |
| coderus | for now command line is okay :D | 20:17 |
| *** nodevel <nodevel!~james@29.169.broadband10.iol.cz> has joined #sailfishos | 20:18 | |
| attah | indeed.. as i said.. only when it gets time to do security-stuff :) | 20:18 |
| coderus | sure | 20:18 |
| coderus | but it goes to parameter anyway | 20:19 |
| coderus | there is no way to do different thing than intent with this command :) | 20:19 |
| attah | teh.. but you can scrub it for funny stuff | 20:19 |
| *** tortoisedoc_ <tortoisedoc_!5b984c61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.152.76.97> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) | 20:19 | |
| coderus | explain | 20:19 |
| attah | if i added a semicolon..? | 20:20 |
| attah | wouldn't it run that too as root | 20:20 |
| attah | ? | 20:20 |
| coderus | no | 20:20 |
| coderus | it goes to QProcess parameter | 20:20 |
| attah | hmm, yes.. perhaps that is safe | 20:21 |
| coderus | like qdbus org.coderus.aliendalvik.control / org.coderus.aliendalvik.control.startIntent "-a android.intent.action.VIEW -n org.mozilla.firefox/org.mozilla.firefox.App -d www.google.com ;touch\ 123dada" ? | 20:22 |
| attah | pretty much, perhaps without backslash | 20:23 |
| coderus | no 123dada in filesystem :) | 20:23 |
| coderus | look https://github.com/CODeRUS/aliendalvik-control/blob/master/src/adaptor.cpp#L33 and https://github.com/CODeRUS/aliendalvik-control/blob/master/src/adaptor.cpp#L43 | 20:23 |
| *** vakkov <vakkov!~vakkov@s3n105.brunel.ac.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 20:24 | |
| *** tortoisedoc_ <tortoisedoc_!5b984c61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.152.76.97> has joined #sailfishos | 20:24 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | grumble | 20:24 |
| attah | coderus: yes, but i don't understand :) | 20:25 |
| attah | i think maybe qprocess is safe.. but won't know until you try ;) | 20:25 |
| * attah is a n00b | 20:26 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | i have checked my checkbox for early optins | 20:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but still no updates visible on the phon | 20:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | phone | 20:27 |
| attah | tortoisedoc: should there be? :O | 20:27 |
| coderus | attah: it goes to app_process parameters, it's not commandline call | 20:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | attah : isnt that the point of the opt-in (to get early access to updates)? | 20:27 |
| attah | tortoisedoc_: if there are any :) | 20:28 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc_: sure, but there is no RC pushed to early access yet | 20:28 |
| attah | except you coderus | 20:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | aha! | 20:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :P | 20:28 |
| * tortoisedoc_ looks at coderus | 20:28 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | where'd ja get it m'te? | 20:28 |
| coderus | they wrote have troubles with rebuilding everyging glib to fix "Ghost" | 20:29 |
| attah | bribed Stskeeps i assume.. | 20:29 |
| coderus | menas not troubles | 20:29 |
| coderus | but just toooo muuuch packages need to be rebuild and tested of course | 20:29 |
| attah | coderus: anyway.. for all i knew it could have been a wrapped command line call anyway.. but if it isn't that good! | 20:30 |
| *** krendil <krendil!~krendil@218.53.96.58.static.exetel.com.au> has joined #sailfishos | 20:31 | |
| coderus | attah: it isn't | 20:31 |
| coderus | its controling process directly | 20:31 |
| attah | :) | 20:31 |
| tortoisedoc_ | oh f**ck | 20:31 |
| tortoisedoc_ | qtcreator on sailfish sdk really supports only desktop cmake :/ | 20:32 |
| attah | coderus: was it anything else that i said i should check? | 20:32 |
| *** ejjoman <ejjoman!~ejjoman@p54AA614A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 20:32 | |
| coderus | attah: explain | 20:33 |
| attah | you had a bunch of questions for me and i was checking alot of them in parallel | 20:33 |
| attah | so if i missed something.. | 20:33 |
| coderus | attah: i think you asked it | 20:34 |
| coderus | answered i mean | 20:34 |
| attah | good :) | 20:34 |
| attah | btw.. it seems a bit dangerous that you can rad what android app is running and send arbitrary input as "nemo" | 20:34 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc_: how to catch homescreen changes, like hide/show application? | 20:35 |
| attah | who is the security-person at jolla? | 20:35 |
| coderus | attah: it's fixed in u11 | 20:35 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus : there is no such api for showing / hiding running aps | 20:35 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc_: no no | 20:35 |
| coderus | i mean signal | 20:35 |
| attah | hmm.. yes, i guess it is :) | 20:35 |
| tortoisedoc_ | i will soon have a patch for that tho ;) | 20:35 |
| tortoisedoc_ | in my quickbar extras ;) | 20:35 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hm what you mean? | 20:36 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus : ^ | 20:36 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc_: i mean some signal from any i can connect | 20:36 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus: use case? | 20:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus: give me a use case i eman | 20:37 |
| coderus | which indicates about homescreen changes or app minimize/maximize | 20:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus : qt signal? | 20:37 |
| coderus | i need to detect when some app is on screen and when it is minimized and homescreen is active | 20:37 |
| coderus | when some app is activated i need to check if it android app and show controls | 20:38 |
| coderus | and when app is deactivated i need to hide my controls | 20:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus : ok | 20:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | there is no such signal for running apps | 20:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | if you wait a week or two, there will tho :P | 20:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (thanks to my patch) | 20:38 |
| *** onurati <onurati!~onurati@HSI-KBW-109-193-144-208.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #sailfishos | 20:39 | |
| *** prophecy <prophecy!~prophecy@2a02:810b:380:2c4:8e89:a5ff:fec6:eb43> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 20:40 | |
| *** Blizzz <Blizzz!~blizzz@ubuntu/member/blizzz> has joined #sailfishos | 20:40 | |
| *** spider-mario <spider-mario!~spidermar@ppp-seco21th2-46-193-173-128.wb.wifirst.net> has joined #sailfishos | 20:41 | |
| *** onurati <onurati!~onurati@HSI-KBW-109-193-144-208.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 20:44 | |
| kimmoli | coderus: "com.jolla.lipstick", "coverstatus" | 20:44 |
| kimmoli | this is what i found, just detect is lockscreen, homescreen or app active | 20:45 |
| kimmoli | dont know which app though | 20:45 |
| *** onurati <onurati!~onurati@HSI-KBW-109-193-144-208.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #sailfishos | 20:45 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | kimmoli : does that give you the current app? | 20:45 |
| kimmoli | as i said, no | 20:46 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ok wasnt sure i got it | 20:46 |
| tortoisedoc_ | thanks | 20:46 |
| kimmoli | return 2 if in homescreen | 20:46 |
| kimmoli | and so on | 20:46 |
| *** filippz <filippz!~filippz@93-143-138-240.adsl.net.t-com.hr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 20:46 | |
| * coderus checking coverstatus | 20:47 | |
| *** kunev <kunev!~kunev@78-83-70-142.spectrumnet.bg> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 20:47 | |
| kimmoli | using it for harbour powersaving to pause cover-page-activity when coverpages are not shown | 20:47 |
| coderus | thsts enough for my app, thanks :) | 20:48 |
| coderus | kimmoli: there is coverpage status property in qml :) | 20:48 |
| kimmoli | i have discussed this earlier. it doesn't work for me | 20:48 |
| kimmoli | i/we | 20:49 |
| coderus | what doesn't work? | 20:49 |
| kimmoli | coverpage status property in qml | 20:49 |
| *** AlmAck <AlmAck!~AlmAck@191.68.198.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has joined #sailfishos | 20:50 | |
| *** r0kk3rz <r0kk3rz!~chatzilla@host-92-30-179-164.as13285.net> has joined #sailfishos | 20:51 | |
| coderus | kimmoli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10261757 | 20:53 |
| coderus | onStatusChanged: console.log("cover status: " + status) in CoverBackground | 20:53 |
| coderus | gives exactly same values as dbus | 20:53 |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 20:54 | |
| coderus | attah: so, how to disable system black navigations buttons bar | 20:54 |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 20:54 | |
| coderus | attah: and how to detect which buttons should be visible? :D | 20:54 |
| attah | coderus: you and your hard questions :D | 20:55 |
| coderus | attah: sorry, i thought you are expert | 20:55 |
| kimmoli | coderus: i was not doing that in coverbackground... but forgetItNow... | 20:55 |
| attah | i'll have you know i only got an android phone last week :P | 20:55 |
| attah | from work.. | 20:55 |
| coderus | kimmoli: lulz | 20:55 |
| *** GenesisAquarion <GenesisAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 20:56 | |
| coderus | attah: thats great! you expert since a week! | 20:56 |
| attah | coderus: i just have mad google skills ;) | 20:56 |
| coderus | attah: okay, i can find myself how to disable that system bar | 20:56 |
| attah | i'll try too :P | 20:56 |
| coderus | but need to find if it possible at all to know what buttons to show | 20:56 |
| coderus | thats higher piority | 20:56 |
| attah | what are you trying to achieve? | 20:57 |
| *** AquarionMars <AquarionMars!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 20:57 | |
| coderus | attah: hide system black navigation bar, extend android applications space, and create floating buttons for android apps | 20:57 |
| attah | like on top of the app? | 20:58 |
| coderus | yes | 20:58 |
| attah | okay | 20:58 |
| attah | stella launcher at least hides it.. | 20:58 |
| attah | maybe start there? :P | 20:58 |
| coderus | hiding is not problem | 20:58 |
| coderus | i remember i did that before | 20:58 |
| coderus | but there is none of android apps compatible with jolla to show working replacement | 20:59 |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 20:59 | |
| *** GenesisAquarion <GenesisAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 21:01 | |
| *** tzafrir <tzafrir!~tzafrir@local.xorcom.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 21:01 | |
| *** nodevel <nodevel!~james@29.169.broadband10.iol.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 21:02 | |
| *** nodevel <nodevel!~james@29.169.broadband10.iol.cz> has joined #sailfishos | 21:02 | |
| attah | coderus: some kind of qml floating on top.. and use input? :D | 21:03 |
| attah | no idea what wayland will do.. | 21:04 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus : attah is right, show overlay á la shotbuttonapp | 21:04 |
| coderus | attah: did you missed my ScreenTapShot? | 21:04 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :P | 21:04 |
| attah | apparently ;P | 21:05 |
| attah | so.. you alreadu had a solution? | 21:05 |
| coderus | attah: install it from harbour now! | 21:05 |
| attah | y | 21:05 |
| *** r0kk3rz <r0kk3rz!~chatzilla@host-92-30-179-164.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 21:05 | |
| attah | irc client has derped up.. brb | 21:06 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :D | 21:06 |
| *** attah <attah!~attah@h-176-10-249-228.na.cust.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Quit: BORK BORK BORK) | 21:06 | |
| tortoisedoc_ | attah coderus slave :P | 21:06 |
| *** attah <attah!~attah@h-176-10-249-228.na.cust.bahnhof.se> has joined #sailfishos | 21:06 | |
| *** r0kk3rz <r0kk3rz!~chatzilla@host-78-146-173-47.as13285.net> has joined #sailfishos | 21:06 | |
| attah | done | 21:07 |
| coderus | how to blur image with shader effect? | 21:07 |
| attah | coderus: so now we just need to hide the normal nav-stuff? | 21:08 |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 21:10 | |
| coderus | attah: yes | 21:11 |
| coderus | thats not a problem to find | 21:12 |
| *** GenesisAquarion <GenesisAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 21:12 | |
| coderus | the best thing we can do is detect which buttons we need to show | 21:12 |
| attah | if you say so :) | 21:12 |
| attah | hmm, are there more than back normally? | 21:12 |
| *** krendil <krendil!~krendil@218.53.96.58.static.exetel.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | 21:14 | |
| *** AquarionMars <AquarionMars!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 21:14 | |
| attah | coderus: pm disable com.android.systemui | 21:14 |
| attah | might do it | 21:14 |
| * attah is to afraid to try | 21:14 | |
| *** AquarionMars <AquarionMars!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 21:14 | |
| coderus | attah: yes some apps have menu button actions | 21:14 |
| attah | okay | 21:14 |
| attah | so we want to inspect that process somehow | 21:15 |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 21:15 | |
| coderus | attah: yes | 21:16 |
| coderus | anybody know how to use that QtGraphicalEffects FastGlow? | 21:16 |
| *** GenesisAquarion <GenesisAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 21:17 | |
| *** cloanta_ <cloanta_!~sailfish@2a02:a03f:143b:1e00:5256:a8ff:fe01:18f9> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) | 21:19 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 21:20 | |
| *** arcean_ <arcean_!~arcean@aafr26.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #sailfishos | 21:20 | |
| *** GenesisAquarion <GenesisAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 21:21 | |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@aaeo104.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 21:22 | |
| attah | coderus: i'll give up for now | 21:23 |
| coderus | :D | 21:23 |
| attah | great work on the app | 21:23 |
| *** AquarionMars <AquarionMars!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 21:24 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 21:24 | |
| attah | and i sure hope jolla will pick up on this | 21:25 |
| attah | coderus: did my message regarding this ever reach the mailing list? | 21:28 |
| attah | (from yesterday) | 21:28 |
| *** R-Z <R-Z!~Rz@91-158-53-214.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 21:29 | |
| coderus | attah: i didn't saw anything | 21:29 |
| attah | so it's stuck waiting for moderation then.. | 21:29 |
| attah | but you basically did half the work i asked for :D | 21:30 |
| M4rtinK | attah: "[SailfishDevel] Suggestion: expose androids intents on dbus" ? | 21:31 |
| attah | M4rtinK: yep | 21:31 |
| M4rtinK | attah: I got it from the list | 21:31 |
| M4rtinK | so it got through :) | 21:31 |
| attah | i thought i'd receive it back.. it kind of said that in the moderation email | 21:31 |
| coderus | hm, i didn't received this email | 21:32 |
| *** billtux <billtux!~wfleming@host31-50-124-147.range31-50.btcentralplus.com> has joined #sailfishos | 21:32 | |
| r0kk3rz | * Telepathy farstream / SIP Audio routing policy << woooooooo! | 21:32 |
| attah | coderus: I have a secret talent.. triggering spam filters ;) | 21:32 |
| r0kk3rz | sounds like tbrs pestering has paid off | 21:32 |
| tbr | meh, I merely pointed to long standing issues and helped to carv out the missing bits | 21:34 |
| tbr | not much added value from me | 21:34 |
| M4rtinK | AKA co-creation :) | 21:34 |
| tbr | also as per standard policy I'd expect a statement as "this was long on our todo list and community whining had nothing to do with it" | 21:35 |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has joined #sailfishos | 21:35 | |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, thats the wrong message to send though | 21:35 |
| M4rtinK | well I don't really remember any such statements so far | 21:36 |
| r0kk3rz | it should be a 'we listened to the community, implemented an asked for feature' | 21:36 |
| attah | coderus: the other part being security (pokit?) | 21:36 |
| r0kk3rz | whether it was already on their roadmap or not | 21:36 |
| M4rtinK | mostly just silence and "really soon now (TM)" | 21:36 |
| *** piratenpanda <piratenpanda!~panda@pD9E1D747.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #sailfishos | 21:36 | |
| tbr | M4rtinK: a couple of times | 21:36 |
| attah | the feedback onto tjc is really poor :/ | 21:36 |
| r0kk3rz | should really poke them about voicemail notifications and 3 way calling | 21:37 |
| M4rtinK | I see todo lists being mentioned only when something is being promised/delayed, not after releasing stuff :) | 21:37 |
| r0kk3rz | since the community have made patches that enable these things | 21:37 |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@ipbcc243dc.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 21:39 | |
| M4rtinK | lately I've been thinking that the best thing to do is to just do stuff if it is possible on the Jolla hardware | 21:39 |
| M4rtinK | without bothering with something like Harbor rules or trying to coordinate with Jolla | 21:40 |
| kimmoli | uh. could name this app "pocketwarmer"... | 21:40 |
| kimmoli | took from 35 to 10% in 1 hour | 21:41 |
| attah | kimmoli: i thought you had that in the TOHIRI.. at least if you take it off with the app running :D | 21:41 |
| *** SfietKonstantin <SfietKonstantin!~sk@212-198-218-185.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #sailfishos | 21:41 | |
| M4rtinK | as the Jolla developers are evidently too overworked to meaningfully to coordinate with the community :) | 21:41 |
| kimmoli | attah: yes... there is nott much errorchecking | 21:42 |
| attah | M4rtinK: Harsh and sad.. but kind of true | 21:42 |
| kimmoli | or handling | 21:42 |
| attah | kimmoli: but it works! :) | 21:42 |
| * attah wishes he could decide on a computer to get so he can use the SDK | 21:43 | |
| M4rtinK | attah: on short: "do cool stuff and let Jolla sort out the rest/fallout" :) | 21:43 |
| kimmoli | this was my tohcom-daemon, which seems to start if i ask its version over dbus, and it starts in berserk state | 21:43 |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin <Sfiet_Konstantin!~sk@212-198-218-185.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 21:44 | |
| attah | M4rtinK: Are you saying we have unrealistic expectations of them picking up prototypes and turning in to products? | 21:44 |
| M4rtinK | attah: or maybe acknowledging it is a prototype and catering more to the developer/hacker/geek community ? :) | 21:46 |
| kimmoli | coderus: i have one for you... device orientation without __silica_applicationwindow_instance | 21:46 |
| attah | M4rtinK: that would be great.. but i'm not quite sure how to to it efficiently | 21:47 |
| M4rtinK | attah: as currently Jolla is kinda trying to cover both but kinda poorly in both cases (as a result of overstretching ?) | 21:47 |
| r0kk3rz | well, they're developing a minimum viable product, with a minimum number of developers | 21:48 |
| attah | M4rtinK: very likely as a result of overstretching.. and i don't blame them precisely because of this | 21:48 |
| r0kk3rz | at a lot of the big work has been deeper in the stack than flashy new features | 21:48 |
| M4rtinK | attah:I think a good step would be to actually let people help them :) | 21:48 |
| r0kk3rz | M4rtinK: takes a lot of work co-ordinating with the community though | 21:49 |
| *** Nightmare__ <Nightmare__!~Nightmare@HSI-KBW-046-005-173-198.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC () | 21:49 | |
| attah | M4rtinK: talked to Stskeeps about this.. he disliked nor being able to pay such people.. and also some contract suff.. | 21:49 |
| M4rtinK | r0kk3rz: sure, but kinda gives you developers for free | 21:49 |
| attah | s/nor/not/ | 21:49 |
| coderus | kimmoli: ~.~.~. | 21:49 |
| M4rtinK | r0kk3rz: and a considerably ammount of good will in technical circles | 21:49 |
| *** arcean_ is now known as arcean | 21:50 | |
| *** gogeta <gogeta!~gogeta@net-188-217-76-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 21:50 | |
| kimmoli | coderus: man with large eyebrows walks a dog ? | 21:50 |
| M4rtinK | people are already going to considerably lengths to improve Sailfish OS: whole third party repository system (OpenRepos), unofficial translation efforts (multiple project on Transifex) and all the native applications | 21:51 |
| M4rtinK | patches for middleware, browser, etc. | 21:52 |
| M4rtinK | all that for free in their free time | 21:52 |
| attah | yup.. and now coderus packaging my hack to something useful :) | 21:52 |
| M4rtinK | what I'm trying to say is that if there were less hurdles to overcome, more people would contribute, making Sailfish OS more attractive, attracting more users & developers, etc. | 21:53 |
| *** phaeron <phaeron!~phaeron@188-67-17-0.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 21:54 | |
| M4rtinK | hopefully creating a feedback loop :) | 21:54 |
| attah | hopefully ..or a big pile of half-working hacks.. | 21:54 |
| tbr | M4rtinK: to an extent I agree, but I would prefer those things result in open source that benefits nemo, as that can feed back better into sailfish | 21:55 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: of course I would prefer if Jolla open source everything they can & did all development in the open | 21:55 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: as I think this the current status quo is actively hurting them | 21:56 |
| tbr | M4rtinK: I meant the community work | 21:56 |
| *** never_ <never_!~never@p57B2DC45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Verlassend) | 21:57 | |
| M4rtinK | tbr: sure | 21:57 |
| tbr | M4rtinK: I _personally_ see little to no value in people doing their "thing" somewhere in a corner where it won't make it back into the system | 21:57 |
| tbr | a lot of value in open source comes from sending patches upstream | 21:58 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: well, this is kinda how I see the Jolla closed source components :) | 21:58 |
| tbr | M4rtinK: you know my opinion, clean room reimplementation for nemo, reusable for sailfish | 21:58 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: sure, that is a perfectly valid strategy | 21:59 |
| *** tortoisedoc_ <tortoisedoc_!5b984c61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.152.76.97> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) | 21:59 | |
| M4rtinK | tbr: and quite possibly the possible end result | 22:00 |
| *** zetaz <zetaz!~arno@149.58.88.79.rev.sfr.net> has left #sailfishos | 22:00 | |
| M4rtinK | tbr: but I still consider this as a waste of potential, as there is a working solution that Jolla & Nemo could both contribute to | 22:01 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: but that's most probably a lost battle | 22:01 |
| tbr | M4rtinK: yes, but I've come to accept that jolla simply has too much work to be capable of cooperation on most aspects | 22:01 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: yeah, that's most probably what it boils down to | 22:02 |
| M4rtinK | no bad intent, just over worked | 22:02 |
| tbr | reimplementing things as open source can help them too, if it's really good it might lead to them chosing the open part over their closed bits in the long run. Although in most cases that would require considerable work. | 22:03 |
| *** phaeron <phaeron!~phaeron@188-67-17-0.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 22:06 | |
| coderus | kimmoli: use sensors? | 22:08 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: yeah, it might really end like this | 22:08 |
| attah | coderus: could you by any chance build an rpm for me? | 22:09 |
| keithzg | I'm even still anxious for https://github.com/felipec/gst-av/pull/3 to finally get merged in, at least in the version packaged for Mer/SailfishOS . . . I guess no sailors listen to that many podcasts :P | 22:09 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: really liked your Nemo messaging app port to Sailfish proof of concept in this regard | 22:09 |
| coderus | attah: with just a binary? | 22:09 |
| attah | or just a binary in itself.. :) | 22:10 |
| *** sandy_locke <sandy_locke!~sandy_loc@AMontpellier-555-1-185-248.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Out…) | 22:10 | |
| M4rtinK | tbr: combine it with https://github.com/M4rtinK/universal-components and you can even share UI code between Sailfish and Nemo :) | 22:10 |
| tbr | M4rtinK: it was one line of code that changed, and I got that from locusf. | 22:10 |
| *** sandy_locke <sandy_locke!~sandy_loc@AMontpellier-555-1-185-248.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #sailfishos | 22:10 | |
| *** sandy_locke <sandy_locke!~sandy_loc@AMontpellier-555-1-185-248.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 22:10 | |
| *** sandy_locke <sandy_locke!~sandy_loc@unaffiliated/sandy-locke/x-4659754> has joined #sailfishos | 22:10 | |
| tbr | M4rtinK: so you volunteer? :) | 22:10 |
| coderus | attah: okay | 22:10 |
| cvp_ | M4rtinK, nemo messaging app? do have a link ? | 22:10 |
| coderus | i will release screentapshot update and will build rpm for you | 22:10 |
| tbr | I'm happy to wrangle the telepathy backends into place | 22:10 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: well, I plan to add glacier support to Universal Components :) | 22:10 |
| attah | coderus: Thanks! I need to sleep though, put it on github? | 22:11 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: that could be my contribution :) | 22:11 |
| tbr | M4rtinK: still needs someone to do the messaging app though | 22:11 |
| coderus | attah: okay, will put it to releases | 22:11 |
| M4rtinK | once I can get a running Nemo with glacier | 22:11 |
| attah | :) | 22:11 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: build it and they will come :) | 22:11 |
| M4rtinK | (hopefully ;-) ) | 22:12 |
| attah | bye guys, and thanks for being awesome | 22:12 |
| *** nahka^ <nahka^!~nahka@dsl-roibrasgw1-54fb85-193.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 22:13 | |
| *** attah <attah!~attah@h-176-10-249-228.na.cust.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Quit: BORK BORK BORK) | 22:13 | |
| tbr | hopefully, yeah | 22:14 |
| *** zalan <zalan!~zalan@17.244.160.107> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 22:16 | |
| *** cxl000 <cxl000!~cxl000@c27-253-5-120.brodm4.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 22:16 | |
| *** zalan <zalan!~zalan@17.244.160.107> has joined #sailfishos | 22:17 | |
| *** zalan <zalan!~zalan@17.244.160.107> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 22:17 | |
| *** zalan <zalan!~zalan@17.244.160.107> has joined #sailfishos | 22:18 | |
| *** tzafrir <tzafrir!~tzafrir@bzq-218-28-58.cablep.bezeqint.net> has joined #sailfishos | 22:20 | |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-182-253-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: doom) | 22:21 | |
| *** phaeron <phaeron!~phaeron@62-78-152-10.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 22:23 | |
| *** RoKenn <RoKenn!~RoKenn@2001:a60:153e:d201:b57d:6e4a:e27c:673a> has quit IRC (Quit: NSA proxy service interrupted) | 22:25 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 22:27 | |
| *** AquarionMars <AquarionMars!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 22:28 | |
| *** GenesisAquarion <GenesisAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 22:30 | |
| *** GenesisAquarion <GenesisAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has joined #sailfishos | 22:31 | |
| *** onurati <onurati!~onurati@HSI-KBW-109-193-144-208.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 22:31 | |
| *** SolarAquarion <SolarAquarion!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 22:32 | |
| *** AquarionMars <AquarionMars!~solaraqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 22:33 | |
| *** phaeron <phaeron!~phaeron@62-78-152-10.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 22:34 | |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-72-136-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 22:35 | |
| *** billtux <billtux!~wfleming@host31-50-124-147.range31-50.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 22:37 | |
| *** msava <msava!~mircea@nl112-156-14.student.uu.se> has joined #sailfishos | 22:43 | |
| *** blabber <blabber!~tobi@pD958DB0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) | 22:43 | |
| *** nib <nib!~nib@109.110.67.35> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 22:45 | |
| *** cvp_ <cvp_!~cvp@p5DDB93C3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Verlassend) | 22:46 | |
| *** piratenpanda <piratenpanda!~panda@pD9E1D747.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has left #sailfishos | 22:46 | |
| *** Morpog_PC <Morpog_PC!~Morpog_PC@185.8.85.171> has joined #sailfishos | 22:50 | |
| *** disharmonic <disharmonic!~disharmon@unaffiliated/disharmonic> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 22:51 | |
| *** phaeron <phaeron!~phaeron@62-78-152-10.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 22:55 | |
| *** vakkov <vakkov!~vakkov@s3n105.brunel.ac.uk> has joined #sailfishos | 23:01 | |
| *** Pat_o <Pat_o!~pat@rob92-9-88-161-114-92.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 23:03 | |
| *** scientes <scientes!~scientes@unaffiliated/scientes> has joined #sailfishos | 23:06 | |
| scientes | anyone on a nexus 4 or 5? | 23:06 |
| scientes | does it have android compat? | 23:06 |
| keithzg | scientes: Nope. | 23:06 |
| keithzg | I mean, I dual-boot mine, so I guess in that sense ;) | 23:06 |
| *** phaeron <phaeron!~phaeron@62-78-152-10.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 23:06 | |
| r0kk3rz | scientes: the android compatibility layer is proprietary | 23:06 |
| scientes | I develop systemd, and I really want distcc on my phone, but android apps are kinda important | 23:07 |
| scientes | yes i read that | 23:07 |
| keithzg | Surely systemd will add an Android compatibility layer soon? :P | 23:07 |
| scientes | thats what sailfishos is | 23:07 |
| scientes | keithzg, you realize sailfishos uses systemd right? | 23:08 |
| keithzg | scientes: ...yeah, I was making a joke about how systemd keeps adding extra features that eventually there'll be dalvikd or such | 23:08 |
| scientes | android is using ART now, not dalvik | 23:09 |
| scientes | cause dalvik is 32-bit only | 23:09 |
| keithzg | fine, ARTd, sheesh, you're really trying very hard to pick apart my dumb joke :P | 23:09 |
| r0kk3rz | jolla had a job posting, one of the selection criteria was that 'lennart poettering is your personal hero' | 23:09 |
| scientes | I applied to that | 23:09 |
| keithzg | Had to define a mount unit in systemd to mount my radio image to get my Android 5.0 + SailfishOS multirom install to work, so I'm definitely quite aware that SailfishOS uses systemd, heh | 23:09 |
| scientes | i actually bought the nexus 4 to put sailfishos on, but dual booting is lame | 23:10 |
| scientes | install is way to complicated | 23:11 |
| keithzg | ohhhh, keithzg from 2002 is gonna have words with you! His 1337 rig dual-booting Windows XP and Debian is so not lame! | 23:11 |
| keithzg | Bah, it's not complicated. | 23:11 |
| keithzg | Honestly if you can develop systemd, you can install dual booting. | 23:11 |
| keithzg | Step 1: Root your phone. | 23:11 |
| keithzg | Step 2: Install MultiROM from the Play Store. | 23:11 |
| scientes | its not that, its that dual booting is a waste of time | 23:11 |
| keithzg | Step 3: Uhh you're basically done. | 23:11 |
| scientes | if you have an IOMMU you can even give windows its own video card | 23:12 |
| scientes | if you really are that attached to playing video games | 23:12 |
| keithzg | Sure, and that's (perhaps) a reasonable argument, just that you said "install is way too complicated" | 23:12 |
| scientes | it is | 23:12 |
| keithzg | It takes about 10 minutes... | 23:12 |
| scientes | it should be a simple flash from adb | 23:12 |
| scientes | there are too many steps | 23:12 |
| scientes | *fastboot | 23:13 |
| keithzg | It doesn't even take a flash from ADB, you install an app and then hit a menu option in it. | 23:13 |
| keithzg | presto change-o | 23:13 |
| r0kk3rz | scientes: #sailfishos-porters is where you want to go | 23:13 |
| scientes | does sailfishos have agressive memory model like android? | 23:13 |
| scientes | where apps get SIGKILL | 23:14 |
| keithzg | Not really, no. At least, I've never had a program closed on me when I didn't tell it to close. | 23:14 |
| keithzg | You run out of shown apps at 9, however. | 23:14 |
| scientes | thats something differn't | 23:14 |
| scientes | if you have alot of memory | 23:14 |
| *** AlmAck <AlmAck!~AlmAck@191.68.198.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 23:14 | |
| r0kk3rz | well, its a bit different on the jolla phone | 23:15 |
| r0kk3rz | there is certainly cases where apps get killed | 23:15 |
| scientes | I think the SIGKILL model is really great, and I'm wondering how sailfishos implements it | 23:15 |
| lachs0r | I think it’s better to send SIGKILL to the app author’s dog | 23:17 |
| r0kk3rz | its a bit of a work in progress, as is much of sfos really | 23:17 |
| chem|st | is there any BT-HID yet? | 23:18 |
| scientes | should I use a nexus 4 or 5? | 23:18 |
| scientes | cause my nexus 4 screen just broke | 23:18 |
| r0kk3rz | lachs0r: thats a bit harsh, what did the dog do? | 23:18 |
| *** Nokius_ is now known as Nokius | 23:18 | |
| r0kk3rz | scientes: i think 4 is the most finished, but the guys in #sailfish-porters are the ones that work on it | 23:19 |
| lachs0r | r0kk3rz: SIGSTOP their car then? | 23:19 |
| r0kk3rz | sorry #sailfishos-porters | 23:19 |
| keithzg | scientes: replacement screens are getting really cheap these days, that's actually what I did with mine. | 23:19 |
| Nokius | scientes: ask in #sailfishos-porters about the current n4/n5 development | 23:19 |
| lachs0r | r0kk3rz: and not send SIGCONT until they fix their messy app :) | 23:20 |
| Nokius | nn | 23:20 |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-72-136-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: zzz) | 23:20 | |
| chem|st | scientes: 4 or 3 | 23:21 |
| r0kk3rz | lachs0r: you assume that because your device is reaching OOM conditions that its an app developers fault? | 23:21 |
| lachs0r | it usually is | 23:21 |
| *** phaeron <phaeron!~phaeron@mobile-internet-5d6a3b-85.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 23:21 | |
| *** R-Z <R-Z!~Rz@91-158-53-214.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 23:22 | |
| r0kk3rz | maybe, but maybe more a practicality of having modern apps with only 1gb of ram | 23:23 |
| lachs0r | though, unrelated to sfos, I managed to make a mesa driver run OOM in an attempt to compile and run a shader that could never work on the GPU it was running on… | 23:23 |
| lachs0r | and of course it’s webdevs’ fault if their sites cause browsers to use a lot of RAM | 23:24 |
| r0kk3rz | yes but remember that they're web developers | 23:24 |
| r0kk3rz | if they knew what they were doing they wouldnt be web developers :P | 23:25 |
| chem|st | lol | 23:25 |
| chem|st | r0kk3rz: what do sane developers need first? | 23:26 |
| keithzg | Hey, I'm often a web developer! And I . . . oh right, I suck at development. Okay, carry on :P | 23:26 |
| lachs0r | the modern webdev never profiles their site, never looks at the js console for obvious errors, includes a ton of crap just because… | 23:27 |
| lachs0r | oh and they require js, often for no justifiable reason | 23:27 |
| *** lukedirtwalker <lukedirtwalker!~lukedirtw@91.190.9.156> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 23:28 | |
| r0kk3rz | chem|st: as someone that spend 4 years at uni, honestly a good well rounded knowledge of computing fundamentals is invaluable | 23:28 |
| chem|st | r0kk3rz: how about a warship? If you declare war on Java you need a vessel as Java is an island! :D | 23:29 |
| scientes | I refuse to do web development | 23:29 |
| scientes | it is too ugly | 23:29 |
| keithzg | (insert systemd joke here) | 23:29 |
| * keithzg is sorry! | 23:30 | |
| lachs0r | also for no justifiable reason they tend to use vendor prefixes and other browser-specific markup/css | 23:30 |
| keithzg | lachs0r: Oh yes, vendor-specificity. It's like web developers took at look at their job and said "you know what, I think if we buckle down and try hard enough, we can *still* manage to make it even harder to test!" | 23:31 |
| lachs0r | there’s no need to debug your stuff in all the browsers if you just stick to things that are actually finalized as part of a standard, not a draft spec :( | 23:31 |
| merlin1991 | but hey having a product that only renders correclty in webkit is perfect | 23:32 |
| lachs0r | also, on the js side, if you need to debug client-side code, you are doing it wrong | 23:32 |
| keithzg | Bah, working from the standard instead of the bleeding edge of a constantly-changing draft that's unevenly implemented across real-world instances? Okay, grandpa ;) | 23:32 |
| *** r0kk3rz <r0kk3rz!~chatzilla@host-78-146-173-47.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 23:32 | |
| lachs0r | the best way to develop a website is to test it in some browser like konqueror with khtml. it’s totally not up to par, but it ensures you get a site that works fine across everything and doesn’t eat peoples’ batteries or RAM :) | 23:34 |
| *** Morpog_PC <Morpog_PC!~Morpog_PC@185.8.85.171> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 23:35 | |
| keithzg | I am proud to say that I actually do that with my company's website, heh. Although the design is fairly atrocious overall with some very ugly hacks in the background for some things (I inherited it and maintain it, didn't create it in the first place) | 23:36 |
| lachs0r | having a really slow js engine and a really picky renderer sounds like a sane environment to do testing with. to begin with, one of html’s problems is the existence of quirks modes; also the unavailability of a “strict” mode for developers in modern browsers which would make any error a hard error | 23:37 |
| *** nomeata <nomeata!~jojo@nomeata.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Client exiting) | 23:37 | |
| *** phaeron <phaeron!~phaeron@mobile-internet-5d6a3b-85.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 23:37 | |
| lachs0r | the other problem is that html is not like qml :) | 23:39 |
| *** nodevel <nodevel!~james@29.169.broadband10.iol.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 23:39 | |
| coderus | Always bright #SailfishOS homescreen background with "Disable background dim" patch https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-disable-background-dim | 23:40 |
| Nokius | coderus: is it now like the early Version of SFOS? | 23:41 |
| coderus | Nokius: i don't remember now | 23:42 |
| coderus | check screenshot | 23:42 |
| Nokius | where? | 23:43 |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 23:45 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin <Sfiet_Konstantin!~sk@212-198-218-185.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #sailfishos | 23:46 | |
| *** SfietKonstantin <SfietKonstantin!~sk@212-198-218-185.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 23:46 | |
| Nokius | cu | 23:48 |
| *** R-Z <R-Z!~Rz@91-158-53-214.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 23:57 | |
| *** phaeron <phaeron!~phaeron@62-78-152-10.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #sailfishos | 23:58 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!