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| CardenalJimenez | Hi | 10:10 |
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| CardenalJimenez | I've got the "project is outside of shared home / shared src" issue - when project *is* in fact created either in shared home *or* in shared src (I've tested both) - Anyone would know _where_ to look for some more logs, in order to solve this? | 10:12 |
| CardenalJimenez | btw, I already looked at sailDevel & TJC, none of those workarounds presented worked | 10:13 |
| CardenalJimenez | (and I'm not using any symlink - only real folders. OS is WinHate...) | 10:14 |
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| coderus | CardenalJimenez: so what is path to your project? | 10:19 |
| coderus | remofe .pro.user file and reopen project | 10:19 |
| CardenalJimenez | path is either \shared\home\p1 or \shared\home\p2 | 10:20 |
| CardenalJimenez | alright, trying that | 10:20 |
| CardenalJimenez | *\shared\src\p2 | 10:20 |
| CardenalJimenez | coderus: same result | 10:24 |
| coderus | CardenalJimenez: in your system what is path | 10:25 |
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| CardenalJimenez | coderus: http://pastebin.com/ND8EfEy2 -QtLogs, with my paths | 10:26 |
| CardenalJimenez | coderus: no whitespace in SDK installation path | 10:27 |
| CardenalJimenez | coderus: only ASCII-characters in shared src name | 10:27 |
| CardenalJimenez | coderus : folder used as shared home by Qt cannot be changed, since it uses envvars from Win8 | 10:28 |
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| coderus | CardenalJimenez: D&veloppement | 10:47 |
| coderus | & is ascii or codepage bug? | 10:47 |
| coderus | also rey to switch your kit to arm | 10:48 |
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| CardenalJimenez | coderus : & is ascii | 11:03 |
| CardenalJimenez | coderus : arm? I'm using virtualbox emulator. I'm confused. | 11:04 |
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| CardenalJimenez | coderus : with arm kit: same results - logs http://pastebin.com/A7ML603u | 11:09 |
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| CardenalJimenez | coderus: according to one post in saildevel, "project is outside" issue is related to QtIDE, not MerSDK | 11:11 |
| CardenalJimenez | coderus : so I'm going to setup this Qt install for Android and maybe also Blackberry, see what happens with projects from other platforms | 11:12 |
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| CardenalJimenez | coderus : i think i've got it | 11:16 |
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| CardenalJimenez | coderus : nope. I also changed '&' character for 'e' and tried all combinations possibles, deleting *pro.user, same result each time | 11:28 |
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| CardenalJimenez | coderus : should you have a hunch of where to look, I'm interested | 11:30 |
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| cathal_ie | Hello all; contemplating my next phone's OS and am tempted by Sailfish, but have some questions about licensing, freedom, and directions Sailfish could take. Any takers? :) | 11:43 |
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| cathal_ie | Core Q: Sailfish is based on Mer, and Mer is FLOSS. I gather OEMs are first directed to implement Mer, then Sailfish can sit atop. This suggests even if Sailfish continues to be closed source, a compatible open fork could be made. | 11:44 |
| cathal_ie | But, how compatible: How much of what makes Sailfish work under the hood is Mer, and how much is proprietary secretware? | 11:45 |
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| coderus | CardenalJimenez: did you checked config to change your directory to default? | 11:46 |
| cathal_ie | Next, related question, is: Is SDK still proprietary of have they opened it by now? If not, can you develop for SailfishOS without the SDK? | 11:47 |
| cathal_ie | Oh; @coderus, thanks for releasing libaxolotl in C++ few days back, really happy to see progress towards a more portable TextSecure. :) | 11:47 |
| CardenalJimenez | coderus : yep - in fact that was my first install, initially. had the same issue | 11:47 |
| coderus | cathal_ie: sailfish Silica and most of default applications are closed source | 11:47 |
| coderus | cathal_ie: libaxolotl is still wip | 11:48 |
| coderus | cathal_ie: writing tests at the moment and fixing bugs | 11:48 |
| coderus | CardenalJimenez: so, you tried to remove sdk, remove config file, reinstall using default sdk path? | 11:48 |
| coderus | Btw, Wayland 1.7 released. Anyone want to port it to Jolla? :D | 11:49 |
| CardenalJimenez | coderus : I thought you meant change src to home default - no, not that. I see waht you mean now. | 11:50 |
| cathal_ie | @coderus Silica is the UI, and default apps are whatevs. If it's based on Wayland, that leaves scope for a Free/Libre UI and a totally open stack, right? | 11:51 |
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| coderus | cathal_ie: current Jolla wayland is too old and xwayland can't be runned on it | 11:52 |
| coderus | cathal_ie: check glacier nemo for FOSS | 11:52 |
| coderus | they're making homescreen and core apps | 11:52 |
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| cathal_ie | @coderus Glacier Nemo: excellent! How compatible with Sailfish would that be? I.e., apps written for Sailfish OS, how runnable on an open fork or parallel project like Glacier? | 11:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | cathal_ie: mostly, except silica UI apps are unlikely to work | 12:02 |
| r0kk3rz | if only because they will be missing the silica libraries | 12:02 |
| faenil | cathal_ie: Silica compatibility is something we talked about in the past, but we need more contributors to make that happens, it's as simple as that ;) | 12:02 |
| r0kk3rz | but since silica is mostly just an extension of qtquick items, apps should be straight forward to port | 12:02 |
| faenil | (ps, if you wanto to know more, #nemomobile channel) | 12:03 |
| cathal_ie | Fascinating, thank you. For background this has been my thought-process: https://www.reddit.com/r/freesoftware/comments/2vv4uo/most_libre_nextgen_mobile_os/ | 12:03 |
| cathal_ie | From where I've arrived in my head, buying a Jolla and holding out/helping towards a free UI stack like nemo sounds like the best way forward for me? | 12:03 |
| faenil | cathal_ie: that's lovely to hear :D | 12:03 |
| cathal_ie | Because it seems like you can code for Sailfish using lots of languages. My favourites are Python (confirmed for SFOS?) and Golang (??), and no other OS seems to offer that flexibility | 12:04 |
| faenil | Sailfish has support for Python, yes, don't know about Go | 12:04 |
| cathal_ie | @faenil My impression was "you can write console software more or less as for lin/desktop, but UI requires Qt" ->? | 12:05 |
| faenil | well, at least natively-styled UI, yes | 12:07 |
| coderus | cathal_ie: use nickname: in irc. @nickname is twittter wat | 12:07 |
| coderus | way* | 12:07 |
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| faenil | there are Qt bindings for Python, fwiw | 12:08 |
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| faenil | cathal_ie: after reading your post, I can confirm Sailfish is probably what you want to look into, as a fully functional platform...and Nemomobile (Glacier) if you want to help shaping a *fully* FOSS OS | 12:15 |
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| cathal_ie | faenil: Thanks for the feedback. The only feedback I got in /r/freesoftware was "use replicant", which I ought to have expected I guess. :) | 12:41 |
| faenil | cathal_ie: yeah, I read the comments, hehe | 12:43 |
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| cathal_ie | I'd certainly love to move to SFOS and help work on making useful stuff for it and Glacier, but I have a killer-app problem | 12:58 |
| cathal_ie | coderus: I know there's some work towards making a native TextSecure for SFOS, but does the original Android app work through Alien Dalvik? | 12:58 |
| locusf | cathal_ie: you can install Silica components separately when running glacier | 12:59 |
| cathal_ie | I know Redphone doesn't, but as I eschew Google accounts it doesn't work for me anyway. | 12:59 |
| coderus | cathal_ie: i didn't tried myself | 13:01 |
| giucam | coderus: what's wrong with wayland 1.3 wrt xwayland? | 13:01 |
| coderus | never used textsecure | 13:01 |
| locusf | oh yes and android apps don't work with glacier homescreen | 13:01 |
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| coderus | giucam: is ther esomething usable, not just PoC? | 13:01 |
| coderus | locusf: why? | 13:02 |
| giucam | coderus: i mean, why do you need a newer one? | 13:02 |
| cathal_ie | coderus: Damn. Nobody seems to have tested it, and I rely on it for basic privacy on Android. Perhaps I can try it on the SDK test image.. | 13:02 |
| locusf | coderus: I don't know actually | 13:02 |
| cathal_ie | locusf: Well, hoping that someone else, or me, will port TextSecure to work on SFOS/Glacier natively so android app will become irrelevant. I'm assuming/hoping there's a common API for SFOS apps based on Mer? i.e. to send encrypted SMS and to hook incoming SMS messages for decryption? | 13:03 |
| cathal_ie | Clarification: that that API isn't proprietary to SFOS but is common to Mer and therefore Glacier also? | 13:03 |
| cathal_ie | Would like, if I'm writing at all, to write something common to both. Grow both platforms to help people switch to Glacier ultimately. | 13:04 |
| locusf | the API is in the Nemo middleware | 13:06 |
| locusf | which Sailfish uses extensively | 13:06 |
| cathal_ie | So Sailfish is really the UI and UI-API only, the device API is open? | 13:08 |
| locusf | coderus: it must be something which I can't see, ie. in the Jolla homescreen c++ | 13:08 |
| coderus | giucam: i don't know, but everybody says current one is not suitable :D is it wrong? | 13:08 |
| locusf | cathal_ie: well Sailfish is UI + some apps + some middleware + Silica API | 13:09 |
| giucam | coderus: it could be, but there were not big changes since 1.3, so i'm a bit skeptical | 13:09 |
| locusf | and open is defined by what you mean open | 13:09 |
| locusf | open as in usable in Jolla, not so much | 13:10 |
| locusf | we don't have access to eg. phone api in Jolla store apps | 13:10 |
| cathal_ie | locusf: How do you mean? API-wise, what is Jolla/Sailfish-only, and what is common to anything on Mer (which I gather is folding in Glacier API middleware)? | 13:12 |
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| faenil | cathal_ie: most of the middleware is Nemo/Mer (i.e. open) | 13:15 |
| faenil | cathal_ie: you can have a look at https://github.com/nemomobile/ https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/ https://github.com/mer-packages/ | 13:16 |
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| faenil | cathal_ie: I can't think of any middleware which is Sailfish-only (i.e. closed), there are a few parts, but I don't remember any crucial one atm | 13:17 |
| faenil | https://github.com/nemomobile/libcommhistory and https://github.com/nemomobile/commhistory-daemon could be useful to your purpose | 13:22 |
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| cathal_ie | faenil: Excuse my ignorance, but "middleware" here means API calls for getting/setting/executing/hooking device abstraction stuff, like "receive SMS", "read accelerometer", "take picture"? | 13:24 |
| faenil | yes | 13:24 |
| faenil | (don't take me as an expert, btw ;) ) | 13:25 |
| faenil | Middleware to me is whatever the UI uses to accomplish its tasks :) | 13:25 |
| faenil | (put simply) | 13:25 |
| cathal_ie | So it sounds like, UI aside, developing apps that share common code to SFOS and Glacier should be straightforward? A common Textsecure, for e.g., and porting apps from SFOS to Glacier. | 13:26 |
| faenil | yep | 13:26 |
| flux | soo, websockets and qml, can I use them yet on Sailfish? it seems it has been introduced at qt 5.3 :/ | 13:26 |
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| flux | I suppose I can 'just' provide my own web sockets interface. | 13:26 |
| flux | or just use plain sockets :) | 13:27 |
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| cathal_ie | flux: This may be a naive answer re:qml, but I'm looking at the SFOS SDK example and the root file is a .qml - does that mean yes? :) | 13:30 |
| faenil | I think he only meant the websocket qml module :) | 13:31 |
| cathal_ie | derp | 13:32 |
| faenil | Stskeeps: the graph with open and closed sailfishos packages is not available anymore, can you check why? | 13:33 |
| faenil | the link is http://monster.tspre.org/~carsten/oss-vs-nonoss.png | 13:35 |
| tbr | there is a decent wiki page which lists all(?) though | 13:35 |
| faenil | ah ok, let's see | 13:36 |
| faenil | tbr: do you already know where to look? | 13:36 |
| tbr | faenil: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/SailfishOSS | 13:37 |
| tbr | the page should be moved to the correct namespace though | 13:37 |
| * tbr ponders if SPDX could help here in the long run | 13:38 | |
| faenil | tbr: great thanks ... cathal_ie you can have a look at that page as well ;) | 13:39 |
| cathal_ie | Cool, thank you! | 13:40 |
| faenil | np | 13:41 |
| cathal_ie | Is it not odd that Coreutils *and* busybox are part of the core? :) | 13:42 |
| tbr | one might be for an initrd or such? | 13:43 |
| tbr | or for the bionic-libc side? | 13:43 |
| coderus | flux: i build it myself for my app and bundled | 13:47 |
| coderus | no problem with building websockets for Qt5.2 | 13:47 |
| coderus | probably Jolla can provide it oficially? Stskeeps | 13:48 |
| flux | coderus, where can I find the separate qt5.2 implementation? | 13:56 |
| flux | ah, this is it? https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtwebsockets/source/48f8a0cf237e757d1ef3f8be424f7a1acb915b0c: | 13:57 |
| coderus | flux: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtwebsockets | 14:00 |
| coderus | yes | 14:00 |
| coderus | just grab and compile it with qmake && make | 14:00 |
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| flux | thanks | 14:16 |
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| attah | does someone happen to be sitting on a good example on how to set up a dbus service in c++? | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: i shut down that machine | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: SPDX is on my list to investigate | 14:28 |
| Nokius | coderus: is looks like slack is really common it's like irc but there direct ping use @ first mention at work is without @ :) | 14:29 |
| Nokius | coderus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slack_%28software%29 | 14:29 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: supposedly OBS has support for it | 14:30 |
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| coderus | attah: http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/qt5-5.4/qdbusconnection.html#registerService | 14:38 |
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| attah | coderus: thanks. and that *the* way to do it i take it? | 14:40 |
| r0kk3rz | attah: coderus' voicemail notification service is a good code example | 14:40 |
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| r0kk3rz | but the docs will help you for the dbus interaction stuff, depending on what you want to do | 14:41 |
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| attah | i'm not quite sure how I want to do it.. but i know what i want to acheive | 14:43 |
| attah | also i have no sdk atm since it got borked on OSX 10.6 | 14:43 |
| attah | so perhaps i should just ask if someone feels up to the task :) | 14:44 |
| attah | i want to make a daemon that relays intents from dbus to android apps | 14:44 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps: ok | 14:46 |
| r0kk3rz | so takes dbus messages and triggers intents based on the message? | 14:46 |
| r0kk3rz | its doable, but sounds like you're going to want to put a lot of thought into your dbus interface | 14:47 |
| attah | precisely | 14:48 |
| attah | and i guess having to understand polkit would be good | 14:48 |
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| r0kk3rz | probably not required | 14:49 |
| r0kk3rz | since everything runs as nemo anyway | 14:49 |
| attah | well.. not really.. yet anyway.. | 14:50 |
| attah | the intents have to be invoked as root it seems | 14:50 |
| attah | doing it as nemo returns the same result, but nothing happens | 14:50 |
| attah | brb | 14:51 |
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| r0kk3rz | oh right | 14:53 |
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| coderus | attah: did you succeded in sending intents to apps? | 15:00 |
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| attah | coderus: yes :D | 15:03 |
| attah | https://together.jolla.com/question/38863/how-do-i-trigger-an-android-intent-from-outside-alien-dalvik/ | 15:05 |
| attah | https://github.com/attah/alien-tools | 15:05 |
| attah | so now i'm looking to make it more integrated into sailfish and preferably add some security | 15:06 |
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| attah | that's why i started looking at polkit.. but i really have no experience about this | 15:11 |
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| coderus | attah: can you show me some example of intents? like back action, menu, etc | 15:18 |
| attah | coderus: I have mostly been playing with this one com.audible.application.app.PLAY | 15:19 |
| attah | but probably not too useful for you | 15:19 |
| coderus | attah: it just looks like good idea for OSD android controls :D | 15:21 |
| attah | yup | 15:21 |
| attah | thus why i want to get it on the dbus | 15:22 |
| attah | to list your available intents (and some other crap): | 15:22 |
| attah | /opt/alien/system/bin/dumpsys package r | 15:23 |
| attah | no need to be root for that one.. which might come in handy | 15:23 |
| r0kk3rz | i wonder if we could use it to 'wakeup' android apps with nemo-keepalive | 15:25 |
| r0kk3rz | like messaging clients | 15:25 |
| coderus | attah: how to use /opt/alien/system/bin/dumpsys ? | 15:25 |
| attah | i wish i knew.. that line in its entirety lists intents it seems.. courtesy of stackoverflow | 15:26 |
| coderus | attah: i mean it shows everything | 15:26 |
| attah | you grep for your app and find intents.. and try calling them :) | 15:27 |
| attah | or am i misunderstanding your question? | 15:27 |
| coderus | grep, okay | 15:29 |
| coderus | just asking for an option to show intents for specified package name only | 15:29 |
| attah | sorry, i tried to find out how.. but failed | 15:30 |
| attah | you can always go in to the apps apk and look in the manifest | 15:30 |
| attah | btw.. i got "back" working now | 15:31 |
| attah | i'll package it up and update the repo with a .sh for input | 15:31 |
| attah | seems it's quite powerful | 15:31 |
| coderus | attah: waht is for back? | 15:33 |
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| attah | it's achieved by another command, "input", so not through "am" | 15:34 |
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| coderus | attah: okay | 15:39 |
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| attah | coderus: so.. that should do it | 15:54 |
| attah | ./input.sh keyevent 4 | 15:55 |
| attah | ^that's for "back" | 15:55 |
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| coderus | so, it's global? | 15:58 |
| attah | yup | 15:58 |
| attah | or were you looking at setting a particular view on a particular app? | 15:59 |
| coderus | /opt/alien/system/script/platform_envsetup.sh: line 73: ulimit: stack size: cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted | 16:00 |
| attah | need to be root | 16:00 |
| coderus | as root it gives segfault | 16:00 |
| attah | hmm | 16:00 |
| attah | what did you do? | 16:00 |
| coderus | ./input.sh keyevent 4 | 16:01 |
| * attah sets up a fresh ssh connection | 16:01 | |
| attah | that's odd.. "works on my machine (tm)" | 16:02 |
| attah | although does nothing without an active app | 16:02 |
| coderus | can you git clone https://github.com/attah/alien-tools.git on your phone | 16:03 |
| coderus | and test with cloned files yourself? | 16:03 |
| attah | i'll try | 16:03 |
| attah | it works | 16:05 |
| attah | even as nemo as a matter of fact, despite the warning | 16:05 |
| coderus | wtf? :D | 16:06 |
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| attah | well.. it was really am that didn't work.. so i never thought of trying | 16:07 |
| attah | and it's a bit creepy that it works :S | 16:07 |
| attah | what permissons did you get? | 16:08 |
| attah | mine look like 775 or something l | 16:08 |
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| coderus | it's not a problem | 16:09 |
| coderus | launching app_process gives segfault for me | 16:09 |
| coderus | can you setup single script for sending back event for test? | 16:09 |
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| coderus | i'll reboot device to be sure | 16:10 |
| attah | yeah.. that's the whole issue i thought i had solved | 16:10 |
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| coderus | attah: restart shell also to cleat environment yourself | 16:10 |
| coderus | and try it again | 16:10 |
| coderus | to clear* | 16:11 |
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| attah | but.. i have a completely new ssh connection.. isn't that enough? | 16:11 |
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| attah | coderus: add echo of CLASSPATH and BOOTCLASSPATH pefore the exec (last line) in the command.sh | 16:12 |
| attah | and change the exec to echo too | 16:12 |
| coderus | attah: create script please for test | 16:13 |
| coderus | with all output you need | 16:13 |
| coderus | i'll just start it | 16:13 |
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| coderus | to be moreconvenient | 16:13 |
| attah | for you that is ;) | 16:13 |
| attah | but yes, i'll do that | 16:14 |
| attah | in the meantime it would be neat if there were some brave souls here that can try aswell | 16:14 |
| coderus | attah: just prepare script | 16:14 |
| coderus | and i can try on two jollas | 16:14 |
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| attah | coderus: pushed! | 16:21 |
| coderus | attah: segfault. so, rebooting now | 16:24 |
| attah | crap | 16:24 |
| attah | and you had an android app open when you tried? | 16:24 |
| coderus | sure | 16:25 |
| coderus | will try on second jolla now | 16:25 |
| coderus | okay on second jolla it works | 16:26 |
| attah | what a relief! xD | 16:26 |
| attah | and even through the input script? | 16:27 |
| coderus | on mine it still segfault after reboot | 16:27 |
| coderus | pita | 16:27 |
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| attah | that's strange.. | 16:27 |
| attah | does the debug output look the same? | 16:28 |
| coderus | attah: yes, input keyevent 4 works also | 16:28 |
| attah | :) | 16:28 |
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| coderus | attah: on mine jolla bootclasspath lacks of /opt/alien prefix | 16:29 |
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| attah | so.. ANDROID_ROOT is empty? | 16:30 |
| coderus | no, it /system | 16:30 |
| coderus | on second jolla it /opt/alien/system | 16:30 |
| coderus | :D | 16:30 |
| coderus | wtf? | 16:30 |
| attah | old software revision? | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | i presume coderus is on a prerelease; it's now in a chroot | 16:31 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: yep.. | 16:31 |
| attah | meh! :) | 16:31 |
| coderus | attah: so your script won't work on u11 :D | 16:31 |
| Stskeeps | saves a lot of sanity | 16:32 |
| coderus | attah: need proper solution | 16:32 |
| attah | if you just edit the first line in command.sh to reflect this it should all work | 16:32 |
| attah | well. second after hashbang | 16:32 |
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| coderus | attah: what you talking about? change to what? | 16:33 |
| attah | remove the "/opt/alien" part | 16:34 |
| coderus | why? no | 16:34 |
| coderus | location is still same | 16:34 |
| coderus | but it lives in chroot now as Stskeeps said | 16:34 |
| attah | okay.. i guess i'm too stupid to understand the kind master :) | 16:35 |
| coderus | attah: you need Stskeeps assistance here | 16:36 |
| Stskeeps | chroot /opt/alien ? | 16:36 |
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| attah | oh.. yes | 16:37 |
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| attah | so you try that and report back coderus :) | 16:39 |
| coderus | try what? | 16:39 |
| attah | add a chroot in the script | 16:40 |
| coderus | sudo chroot /opt/alien/ /alien-tools/back.sh | 16:40 |
| coderus | this way works | 16:40 |
| attah | :) | 16:41 |
| coderus | moved alien-tools to /opt/alien | 16:41 |
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| attah | so.. why are you on u11 ahead of anyone else? ;) | 16:42 |
| coderus | don't ask | 16:42 |
| attah | hmm | 16:42 |
| attah | okay | 16:42 |
| coderus | i'm on u10 | 16:42 |
| coderus | just my phone is broken | 16:42 |
| attah | Stskeeps: so how interested is Jolla in fixing som intent-relay-daemon? | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | attah: no clue, send to sailfish devel mailing list, good start | 16:43 |
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| attah | sounds reasonable, thanks | 16:44 |
| coderus | well, script is working, but how to achieve same with app? chroot seems to be not accessible way. having separate scripts for each action? | 16:44 |
| attah | well.. the idea here is to have a daemon living inside the proper environment and dbus the intents to it | 16:45 |
| attah | can't you chroot inside the script? | 16:45 |
| attah | i.e. command.sh | 16:45 |
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| coderus | chroot in script forcing me to new shell inside chroot | 16:47 |
| attah | crap | 16:48 |
| attah | i'm not very good at these things... | 16:48 |
| coderus | sudo chroot /opt/alien/ /alien-tools/input.sh keyevent 4 | 16:49 |
| coderus | this way works | 16:49 |
| coderus | chroot requires root | 16:50 |
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| attah | i assume you can split up the $ANDROID_ROOT variable to two.. depending on if it's to be interpreted in the chrooted area or not | 16:51 |
| coderus | why? | 16:52 |
| attah | it's maybe even the case that prepending /opt/alien to it after sourcing the environment does the trick | 16:52 |
| coderus | it would be better if there way to do same without chrooting | 16:54 |
| attah | that's what i meant to achieve, yes | 16:54 |
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| attah | once i get u11 i'll take a swing at it obviously | 16:55 |
| attah | but for now i'm not sure i can be of much help.. especially before i have found something to eat | 16:56 |
| coderus | i hope beta accessible RC will be ready soon | 16:56 |
| attah | :) | 16:57 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: btw, do you have a way to check which devices/usernames downloaded versions? | 16:57 |
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| tadzik | heh, I wonder if it's time for my daily SearchField cry for help... :P | 18:49 |
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| * attah sent his first proper mailing list email, and hopes the oldtimers won't have his head because he can't behave | 19:25 | |
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| attah | awaiting moderator approval :( | 19:27 |
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| kimmoli | speaking of cover actions, drop your gloves, put on tin-foil-hat https://together.jolla.com/question/81545/please-dont-limit-cover-actions-to-one-in-sailfishos-20/ | 19:49 |
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| attah | why would they do that? :S | 19:55 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah im not going to protest until i see the whole change | 19:59 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe there is a reason for it? who knows | 19:59 |
| r0kk3rz | admittedly there are a lot of cover actions that i dont really use | 20:00 |
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| attah | sure.. but still, there is nothing confusing or hard about having two | 20:03 |
| kimmoli | i spent two sleeples night to get the dynamically change nicely | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | pitchfork time? | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:04 |
| r0kk3rz | definitely | 20:05 |
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| r0kk3rz | you can pry our precious cover actions from our cold dead hands :P | 20:05 |
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| tbr | if then there should be more cover actions, up and down anyone? ;-) | 20:13 |
| kimmoli | they are just changing them covert actions | 20:13 |
| MSameer | vakkov: you can port it now and I will test it then merge | 20:13 |
| MSameer | vakkov: no plans to do more changes tonight | 20:14 |
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| r0kk3rz | tbr: up and down is problematic, because then you have to aim carefully when scrolling to lock screen or app drawer | 20:19 |
| tbr | r0kk3rz: I know, mild trolling. | 20:19 |
| r0kk3rz | :) | 20:19 |
| tbr | although it might be possible | 20:20 |
| r0kk3rz | however diagonal cover actions | 20:20 |
| r0kk3rz | totally doable | 20:20 |
| tbr | or maze like moves | 20:20 |
| tbr | right up left down | 20:20 |
| r0kk3rz | that gives you 6 actions per cover | 20:20 |
| r0kk3rz | which should be enough for anyone | 20:20 |
| phlixi | or swirl (like zoom in microb) | 20:20 |
| tbr | ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A | 20:21 |
| r0kk3rz | street fighter moves as cover actions | 20:21 |
| tbr | close apps with special effects. fatality mortal kombat style | 20:22 |
| r0kk3rz | since everyone already knows them | 20:22 |
| Acce | "Add easter eggs to the UI" | 20:22 |
| Acce | let's request it! | 20:22 |
| tbr | mmm, should go back and play some MK2 some time... | 20:23 |
| r0kk3rz | killing dalvik in sailfish-utillities brings you to a minigame | 20:23 |
| r0kk3rz | where you have to defeat the evil android robot | 20:23 |
| tbr | if you lose, the phone reboots | 20:24 |
| r0kk3rz | i assume there should be a ship game in there too somewhere | 20:25 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe like 'dont starve' but you're on a boat at sea | 20:25 |
| tbr | mad game of battleship | 20:26 |
| kimmoli | hmm.. | 20:27 |
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| kimmoli | https://github.com/strahlex/battleship/commits/master | 20:27 |
| kimmoli | nice commit messages there | 20:28 |
| r0kk3rz | amazing | 20:28 |
| tbr | can we build a GameLinkToH please? | 20:28 |
| r0kk3rz | although should we really be sinking ships? | 20:28 |
| mal- | very useful | 20:28 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe im just being too meta | 20:28 |
| r0kk3rz | tbr: pogo-pin toh like those digimon toys (if you remember those) | 20:30 |
| tbr | hehe | 20:31 |
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| Yaniel | http://www.xkcd.com/1296/ anyone? | 20:34 |
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| cryorat | Yaniel, me | 20:35 |
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| attah | Yaniel: I once answered a trouble report with "Removed CrappyCode(tm)" and interestingly enough it passed review | 20:43 |
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| Yaniel | :D | 20:46 |
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| Olpe | Hi! Can somebody explain me how to dynamically set menuItems in an Combobox? | 21:05 |
| Olpe | i tried with Qt.createQmlObject... just says menuItem is not a type... | 21:06 |
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| coderus | Olpe: http://sailfishdev.tumblr.com/post/86417133152/long-list-inside-combobox | 21:08 |
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| Olpe | thanks coderus | 21:11 |
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| Nokius | gn8 great week for you | 21:17 |
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| Flexman | nice valentine offer | 23:29 |
| Flexman | but when i see that light thin font on the pink background i really wonder why no one seems to be interested in some read-able font/color combination... | 23:30 |
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