Tuesday, 2015-02-17

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coderushm02:55
coderushaving MouseArea { drag.target: this MouseArea { id: btn1 } MouseArea { id: btn2 } } is possible?02:56
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Nicd-Nokius: sailfish has always dimmed the background when scrolling the app grid04:50
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Juukkstigeli: when the new mw will be released?05:30
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locusftbr: if M4rtinK pulls of his ui plans, it means a new age for glacier :)05:40
tbr:)05:43
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locusftbr: this is the first time of me seeing the universal components, gotta link that to faenil05:44
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tbrlocusf: he had mentioned it during the roundtable in brussels, I thought it was known already05:47
locusftbr: yes I've known about it but never had time to take a look at it05:52
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tortoisedoccoderus: I think it should06:26
tortoisedoccoderus: I mean, the nested MouseArea's06:26
tortoisedoccoderus: it might require some specific settings tho06:26
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tortoisedoclocusf : what universal components? :)06:28
locusftortoisedoc: https://github.com/M4rtinK/universal-components06:28
Yanielooh shiny06:29
locusfmultiple different qt component sets for one06:29
tortoisedoclocusf : kewl06:29
locusfyeah but that glacier dir is quite empty06:29
tortoisedocwaiting for locusf to fill it? :)=06:30
locusftortoisedoc: yeah we might be missing a couple of components but upstream glacier should handle it06:33
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stephg_morning07:50
NokiusNicd-: okay have less appliaction in Grid since I'm able to group07:50
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tadzikhah, now my email got to the list twice08:01
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lukedirtwalkerIs there a way to rename an rpm such that package manager still detects that it is the same package?08:17
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Nokiushave great day guys08:36
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stephg_lukedirtwalker: how do you mean?08:44
lukedirtwalkerstephg_: I renamed the app from harbour-cutespotify to harbour-cutespot and I want that, for example warehouse, detects that it is the same app08:47
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stephg_if it's already installed you mean?08:52
lukedirtwalkeryes08:52
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stephg_I'm not sure but I would think there's a way to have the new package supercede the old one08:52
lukedirtwalkerI added Obsoletes: oldname08:53
stephg_failing that have a %pre that looks for the old one as well?08:53
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lukedirtwalkerwhat do you mean?08:54
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kimmoliatleast Obsoletes does not work with harbour...11:07
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coderustortoisedoc: i didn't succeded O_O13:01
tadzikHmm, Silica has this clickable thingy that hilights when you press it, that's not a Button though, how's it called?13:05
tadzikfor instance "System" button in Settings13:05
tortoisedoccoderus : didnt succeed in? :)13:06
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coderustortoisedoc: IconButton?13:11
coderustadzik: IconButton13:11
tadzik oh13:11
coderustortoisedoc: in having nested MouseAreas13:11
tortoisedochmhm13:11
coderuspreventStealing also didn't solved13:12
tadzikcoderus: hmm, that seems like just Button with image rather than text, but looking at it I found out about highlightColor, which sounds like what I need13:15
tadzikor not13:17
tadzik(yes, I tried IconButton)13:19
tadzikoh okay, it helps to have a ListView full of ListItems rather than Items13:25
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kimmolitadzik: custom icons in iconbutton, need some tricks to get them highlighted.13:32
kimmolistandars theme icons work fine13:32
tadzikkimmoli: it Just Worked when I started using ListItem :)13:32
coderustadzik: lol you just wanted a list highlight13:34
coderusthen use BackgroundItem, not ListItem13:34
tadzikwell, I have a list of things that I treat as buttons :)13:34
coderusListItem is usable if you need to have context menu on items (by long press)13:34
coderusBackgroundItem is just for highlight13:34
tadzikI see13:34
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uuhimherewhat linux kernel version is sailfish on14:29
faenil3.4 something14:29
faenil(Jolla smartphone)14:29
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Armadillo3.4.98.20141031.314:32
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uuhimherewould jolla be mainlined14:34
fluxthere are some proprietary qualcomm drivers that are basically fixing the kernel version :/, though it doesn't prevent backporting some interesting patches.14:34
Nicd-the kernel will likely stay at 3.414:35
Nicd-they have stated as much14:35
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fluxI wonder if the tablet will fall to the same trap14:35
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uuhimhereyeah thats expected... eveh the rbpi has blon14:40
uuhimhereblobs buy its still b39mg mailined14:40
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uuhimhereman i miss real keyboards14:41
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uuhimhereso couldnt the qualcom drivers just reside with a libhybris environment14:51
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kimmolifaenil: giucam: if i try to change the .qmap used, http://stackoverflow.com/a/2682657/4537127   and this   https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtbase/source/8206123d4a1663b04569a7a5256737b0eaa1249b:src/platformsupport/input/evdevkeyboard/qevdevkeyboardhandler.cpp#L45315:52
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giucamkimmoli: i think you still have to let wayland clients know, else they'll go out of sync15:53
kimmolihttp://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qt-embedded-charinput.html15:54
kimmolihmm15:54
kimmolithat enable-compose needs to be tested too15:55
faenilI can't help :/15:56
giucamkimmoli: i think you should go in #qt-lighhouse and ask lagocs or louai15:57
giucamthey likely know abouty this stuff15:57
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giucammissing a t.. #qt-lighthouse15:59
kimmoli~y16:00
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kimmolione familiar nick there, w00t16:00
kimmoliwill cont later. now hacking other projects for a while.16:01
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CardenalJimenezHi - anyone using SDK on Win8?17:34
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r0kk3rzCardenalJimenez: yeah i am17:46
r0kk3rzyou need to add the home env variable17:47
r0kk3rz$HOME = SERPROFILE%17:48
CardenalJimenezr0kk3rz: ok, thanks17:52
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CardenalJimenezr0kk3rz: this was driving me crazy - worked on win7 - always having 'project is outisde"' issue on Win817:53
r0kk3rzit should really be put in the faq for the sdk17:53
CardenalJimenezr0kk3rz: couldn't see what was the difference17:53
CardenalJimenezr0kk3rz: it is17:53
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CardenalJimenezr0kk3rz: but in the wrong place17:53
CardenalJimenezr0kk3rz: it's in known issues17:53
CardenalJimenezr0kk3rz: it's fine, but it should be added in installatio walktrhough as weel17:54
CardenalJimenez*well17:54
CardenalJimenezr0kk3rz: i'll make a reqest on TJC17:54
CardenalJimenez*request17:55
CardenalJimenezdamn fingers...17:55
CardenalJimenez*damn keys17:55
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tadzikwow, the release build of my project suddenly is full of compilation errors18:01
tadzikmight have something to do with #ifdef QT_QML_DEBUG #include <QtQuick> being there, wtf18:01
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PomxHello19:07
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PomxWould it be possible to port sailfish to the HTC one m819:08
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SpeedEvilIn general - porting is hundreds of hours of effort - if everything is already lined up and documentation is available, and you've done it before.19:09
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tadzikI recall Jolla saying in some very, very early interview about how they can port their OS to a new hardware overnight... ;P19:11
SpeedEvilI question if that's true. If it is - they're missing an opportunity as I'd like to buy it for my nexus 4.19:12
SpeedEvilI mean yes - 'will boot'19:13
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SpeedEvil(where nexus 4 is replaced with whatever phone, not say 3 picked devices)19:13
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tbrSpeedEvil / tadzik - a person very experienced with HA work, will be able to get /something/ working over night.19:29
tbrand something would mean boots to UI, possibly even accelerated19:29
SpeedEvilIndeed - I was sort-of referring to a polished output. And guessing somewhat.19:30
tbrbut might have glitches, might crash, ...19:30
SpeedEvilSorryI should have been less definite.19:30
tbrwith this stuff it's not even an 80/20 rule, it's a 99/1 rule19:31
SpeedEvilYeah. Stuff like random crashes or lockups in places the original android install diddn't tickle, and you have no good way to debug.19:33
attahI'm taking at stab at getting SnoopSnitch working on SailfishOS..  But i get an error when trying to write to /dev/diag, it opens fine though..19:37
attahAnyone got any ideas.. or just feel awesome at kernel stuff?19:37
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attahCONFIG_DIAG_CHAR=y is in the config so it *should* work.. except for likely PEBKAC19:40
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tbrattah: do you have a device to compare against?19:43
attahtbr: unfortunately not..19:44
Stskeepsfind out how it works on nexus 419:44
Stskeepssimilar chipset family19:44
Stskeeps:P19:44
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attahi know what it's supposed to do..19:45
tbrthat was my thought19:45
attah(the set-up is the same across all)19:45
tbris that a character device or something else?19:46
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attahcharacter device, yes19:46
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attahhmmmmmm19:47
locusfit took me two weeks to get Nemo to boot on Minnowboard and two days of it was just making sure the kernel boots in efi19:47
attahthe log does say *something*19:47
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locusfother was mesa stuff and kernel config, but that was about it19:47
locusfnot full time two wweeks though19:48
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attahbut journalctl is damned near impossible to use19:49
attahneither tail nor less with follow works19:50
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attahthis is what it does http://piratepad.net/XqfjjNud2a19:51
attahseems a bit confused about the presence of usb19:51
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attahseems there is some source too.. :O19:53
attahhttps://android.googlesource.com/kernel/msm.git/+/eaf36994a3992b8f918c18e4f7411e8b2320a35f/drivers/char/diag/diagfwd_hsic.c19:54
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ppvs. https://github.com/KonstaT/sailfishos_kernel_jolla_msm8930/blob/master/drivers/char/diag/diagfwd_hsic.c I'd guess19:58
attahneat!19:58
attahwonder if it's a matter of defines if the char device actually works..19:59
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tadzikhmm, how do I get rid of a draft in harbour?20:08
r0kk3rzattah: got any good links to how snoopsnitch works?20:10
attahr0kk3rz: 31c3 talk is about it i think20:10
attahbut i can give you the short version if you like20:11
r0kk3rzthats ok, i might watch the talk20:11
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r0kk3rzive got an android phone that i might be able to install it on that we can interrogate20:12
attah:)20:12
attahwhat i'm trying to do is write the sniffed set-up sequence to the diag device.. and after that it will spew out signaling data with just a small qc header that can be skipped20:13
r0kk3rzits an older htc, so no idea if it will even work20:13
attahhttps://opensource.srlabs.de/projects/snoopsnitch/wiki/DeviceList20:14
r0kk3rzyeah i saw that, its not on that list20:14
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attah"It is very likely that other Qualcomm-based Android phones also work" so :)20:14
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attahaha!20:15
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attahfound what gives the error!20:16
attahhttps://github.com/KonstaT/sailfishos_kernel_jolla_msm8930/blob/50d6ef2ea173e0f5c58b7b299b1e1075bcaf5605/drivers/char/diag/diagchar_core.c#L104520:16
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attahso maybe the messages have a static prefix that wasn't in the blob of data20:17
faenilattah: are you looking for "journalctl -fa" by any chance?20:17
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attahfaenil: apparently :)20:18
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attahnot a very good unix-style citizen then20:19
faenilattah: :)20:19
attahthanks!20:19
faenilnp!20:20
faenilthere's also -n <number>20:20
faenilto get the last n lines20:20
attahgood to know.. but seriously, what was wrong with tail? :(20:21
attahso is this the beginning of me hating systemd?20:21
faeniljournalctl doesn't just echo, so you can't connect it to tail (I guess)20:25
M4rtinK2journalctl -f ?20:26
faenilyes, he says why not tail?20:26
r0kk3rzwhat was wrong with tail? it works with files, not binary logs20:27
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attahyes.. but i was whining about why they chose to re-implement tail and whatnot in a program that just provides the log20:28
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M4rtinK2well, for one it does highlighting20:30
M4rtinK2critical stuff is red, less critical stuff bold, normal messages with normal font20:30
attahso..? could still let it be passed to tail?20:31
attahi tail higlighted stuff almost every day20:32
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* attah boots up windows for the first time this year20:34
M4rtinK2journalctl -f > foo.txt&tail -f foo.txt20:35
M4rtinK2:)20:35
r0kk3rzor20:35
M4rtinK2still not sure about the poin of this exercise though20:35
r0kk3rzyou could compile syslog20:36
r0kk3rzconfigure journalctl to pass to syslog20:36
r0kk3rzand then tail to your hearts content20:36
attahdaaamn you lennart! :P20:36
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attahany idea on which usb-moded for qc diag?20:38
M4rtinK2r0kk3rz: AFAIK that's how it is configured in RHEL7 :)20:39
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r0kk3rzseems silly to have file logs AND binary logs though20:41
attahokay.. pebkac again.. waht to actually write for package name after pkcon install20:41
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juicemeStarted looking into integrating guest account into SFOS, has anybody done anything yet towards that?20:41
attahi thought the same as pkcon search name gives sans the .armv7hl20:41
r0kk3rzattah install zypper20:41
r0kk3rzi find it a bit more featureful20:41
Yanieljuiceme guest account?20:41
juicemeAsked this first on #sailfishos-porters but was directed here...20:42
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juicemeYaniel, yes, second account20:42
juicemecould be guest or anything really20:42
attahr0kk3rz: atm i can't install crap :(20:42
Yanielwhy?20:42
r0kk3rzpkcon install crap?20:42
juicemejust wanted to know if someone has already done anything for it, so not need to start from scratch...20:42
attahokay.. now it worked.. seemingly the same as i tried the first time20:42
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juicemeYaniel, it is fairly nice to have nmore than one account on a device, so you can for example loan your device to someone else (like kids) and not let them mess up your account20:43
attah#€%&/ mac putting random invisible chars in my ssh if i hit some strange key20:43
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juicemelike; today I added another account to my son's android device, to enable him to start another session of "clash of clans" from scratch, without messing up with his current account20:44
juicemeso I thought of adding similar thing to SFOS; adding another console account is trivial but getting the graphical login to another account requires some tweaking.20:46
juicemebasically I'd like to know if someone already did most of the work so I do mow need to start from scratch, the lazy bastard that I am :)20:46
faenileheh :)20:50
faenilI haven't heard of anyone experimenting with it20:50
juicemefaenil, really?20:50
faenilbut you might want to ask sailors during working hours20:50
faenilI vaguely remember somebody saying multiuser support is on the roadmap20:51
juicemesince I'd say it's just creating a login launcher and feeding systemd with some login parameters...20:51
juicemecannot be that difficult, really20:51
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faenil:)20:52
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attahhmm.. does anyone know where the drivers for diag mode might be? (for the pc side)21:17
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Nokiusattah: what?21:29
Nokiusr0kk3rz: pkcon is not so bad the documentation is21:31
r0kk3rzwell it works, but zypper seems to be a bit more verbose about whats going on21:37
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lachs0ra bit, huh…21:55
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Nokius:)22:02
Nokiusnn22:02
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