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| phaeron | locusf: also better group the binary rpm names under the source rpm name to reduce duplicate rows | 00:02 |
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| locusf | phaeron: truw, thanks :) | 03:08 |
| locusf | true | 03:09 |
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| flux | does the sailfish provide enough interfaces to write a content+phone number-based SMS blocker? | 09:23 |
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| SK_work | flux: I do wonder | 09:25 |
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| SK_work | you need to be between telepathy and the ui | 09:25 |
| SK_work | flux: I think you need to patch telepathy-ring | 09:25 |
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| SK_work | the module responsible of smses | 09:25 |
| SK_work | https://github.com/nemomobile/telepathy-ring/ | 09:26 |
| SK_work | good luck with it though | 09:26 |
| flux | :) | 09:26 |
| flux | best would be some dbus interface I imagine | 09:26 |
| SK_work | if you need to find "hooks" or interfaces, I would say that you need to find it here | 09:26 |
| flux | ability to register SMS filters | 09:26 |
| SK_work | flux: well, you need to intercept | 09:26 |
| SK_work | yeah, I see | 09:26 |
| SK_work | don't think so | 09:26 |
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| frzk | Hi guys ! | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | wello | 09:35 |
| frzk | Just in case : https://together.jolla.com/question/68350/survey-jolla-usage-poll/ | 09:35 |
| salyavin | http://sourceforge.net/p/scumstopper/wiki/Home/ SMS blocking is currently not possible because Sailfish's "commhistory" daemon (which receives SMSes and alerts the user about them, among other things) installs itself as a Telepathy observer instead of an approver or handler, thus making it impossible to override through the Telepathy API. (This is also why blocked voice calls will still appear in your | 09:35 |
| salyavin | list of recent calls.) | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | that's open source | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | though | 09:35 |
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| SK_work | salyavin: commhistory cannot | 09:39 |
| meklu | so the history daemon intercepts it before it can be blocked? | 09:39 |
| SK_work | but telepaty-ring can | 09:39 |
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| m4g0g | hi | 09:54 |
| m4g0g | Does somebody has an exeprience with foursquare photo upload via api? | 09:54 |
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| SK_work | m4g0g: is there a public API ? | 10:06 |
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| m4g0g | SK_work: yes | 10:23 |
| m4g0g | Yahoo! I did it! | 10:24 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: :) | 10:24 |
| Nicd- | Google! I did it! | 10:24 |
| m4g0g | =) | 10:25 |
| m4g0g | Now I know how to add image posting to foursail app. | 10:25 |
| pp_ | Duckduckgo! Someone did it! | 10:25 |
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| m4g0g | I have question. If author don't want to continue app developing, but I want. And I don't want to change brand because it's very hard to me create name of the app and find icon for it. How I can continue developing? | 10:27 |
| Acce | ask their permission? | 10:27 |
| coderus | m4g0g: just respect license and keep initial author name | 10:28 |
| flux | well, it would be a bit misleading if your fork would have the same name | 10:29 |
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| flux | and the icon, well perhaps you can modify it a bit, keeping it recognizable but different | 10:29 |
| coderus | it's no necessary | 10:30 |
| flux | better if you can just take over the codebase as per acce's suggestion :) | 10:30 |
| coderus | if author decided not to work anymore | 10:30 |
| coderus | you just write to author | 10:30 |
| coderus | and continue developing :) | 10:31 |
| anYc | or add something to the name like myapp2 or myapp-ng | 10:32 |
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| Nightmare__ | http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/ax2R73p_460s.jpg :D | 10:51 |
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| m4g0g | coderus: thx. I will do it | 11:02 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 11:08 |
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| jwalck | g'day all! Another oddity on my Uitukka jolla, I cannot seem to get SSH configured to accept SSH keys. I saw that the default config now has keybased authentication disabled, but just changing the associated values in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and running systemctl restart sshd.service doesn't seem to cut it | 11:12 |
| Nicd- | jwalck: you shouldn't have to edit sshd_config I think | 11:14 |
| Nicd- | I just put my keys into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys | 11:14 |
| jwalck | Nicd-: iirc I didnt have to in some earlier version, but now I had the line "PubkeyAuthentication no" | 11:15 |
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| jwalck | I have my key in place under ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, with sane permissions | 11:16 |
| Nicd- | what permissions exactly? | 11:17 |
| Nicd- | my sshd_config has '#PubkeyAuthentication yes' | 11:17 |
| jwalck | so it's commented out | 11:18 |
| urjaman | the commented out values are defaults | 11:18 |
| urjaman | afaik | 11:18 |
| Nicd- | yeah, I haven't edited it at all | 11:18 |
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| jwalck | just right ownership and 664 | 11:18 |
| jwalck | Nicd-: also under Uitukka? | 11:18 |
| Nicd- | yes | 11:18 |
| Nicd- | I don't think it should be 664 | 11:18 |
| Nicd- | mine is 600 | 11:18 |
| jwalck | they keys should be 600 | 11:19 |
| Nicd- | and the .ssh dir is 700 | 11:19 |
| jwalck | authorized_keys doesnt matter | 11:19 |
| jwalck | at least on debian-based systems that I administer daily:) | 11:19 |
| jwalck | lets try! | 11:19 |
| jwalck | what do you know! thanks Nicd- | 11:20 |
| Nicd- | yay | 11:21 |
| jwalck | setting authorized_keys to 600 did the trick. the dir was 700 already | 11:21 |
| Nicd- | http://www.openssh.com/faq.html#3.14 | 11:21 |
| Nicd- | this seems to suggest 600 for authorized_keys | 11:22 |
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| jwalck | yep. "... than sshd allows by default." I guess debian 6/7 does something else than default:) | 11:22 |
| jwalck | though I must say the default sshd_config on my sailfish was rather odd. the phone just got back from service and was factory reset, just upgraded it since then | 11:23 |
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| chem|st | jwalck: I ran at exactly the same wall as you just did, never knew that auth-keys file does need special treatment^^ | 11:34 |
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| jwalck | chem|st: I double checked now, it doesn't on debian systems I run | 11:36 |
| jwalck | both dir and file can be whatever. only the id_rsa and similar keys that have sensitive material needs correct permissions | 11:36 |
| meklu | I think it required that on my gentoo installations as well | 11:42 |
| meklu | (the 600) | 11:42 |
| meklu | hmm, apparently not | 11:42 |
| meklu | just the private keys | 11:42 |
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| chem|st | jwalck: yeah that is why we debian folks run into it ;) | 11:45 |
| chem|st | meklu: or even gentoo-folks too | 11:45 |
| jwalck | chem|st: according to meklu, gentoopeople too:) | 11:45 |
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| meklu | I think I've definitely bumped into that issue at some point though | 11:47 |
| jwalck | probably me too. only my memory isn't the best:) | 11:48 |
| meklu | probably on another rpm-y machine then | 11:48 |
| jwalck | could be! but according to the openssh faq, this is the default way (requiring strict premissions on authorized_keys and dir) | 11:49 |
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| meklu | my ~/.ssh is 700 though, so that might affect it | 11:50 |
| tat_ | is there a way to get mailing lists out of the email notifier, it is kind of anoying to get a notifier for every mailinglist post especially on high traffic | 11:51 |
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| Nokius | What does green flash light mean? had anyone the same before? | 12:12 |
| Nokius | screen went black too | 12:12 |
| pp_ | you get that when lipstick dies, at least | 12:12 |
| Nokius | okay thanks | 12:12 |
| anYc | tat_: I made an extra account just for the phone to which I forward only the interesting stuff. This way I can also simply delete old stuff and keep the mailbox small | 12:15 |
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| xavinux | Good morning people | 12:59 |
| Armadillo | good afternoon xavinux ;) | 12:59 |
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| xavinux | ;) | 13:03 |
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| Stskeeps | https://together.jolla.com/question/68538/supporting-larger-microsd-cards-in-the-jolla-tablet-your-input-is-needed/ | 13:36 |
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| jwalck | Stskeeps: Interesting! But I don't see the actual proposals in the poll, (https://together.jolla.com/question/68539/poll-file-systems-support-on-sd-card-for-jolla-tablet/), WIP or did I miss something? | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | jwalck: if you read the post we say we don't claim to know all the answers | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | so this is a chance to say what should be done | 13:43 |
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| urjaman | those are wiki posts, so ... i you're asking people to edit in proposals (i'm not interested in the tablet nor do i have enough karma to edit them, so i dont care) | 13:44 |
| urjaman | *i guess | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | add answers | 13:45 |
| jwalck | Stskeeps: I did, but got confused by the three predefined empty proposals. see what you mean then | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | jwalck: okay, that i don't know :) | 13:46 |
| jwalck | i'll try to contribute, since I am responsible for two tablets in the first batch. knee-jerk reaction is LUKS is a good idea, and SDXC isn't a must but might make sense (with exFAT and license hell) | 13:47 |
| frzk | Stskeeps: thanks for hearing and listening | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | i would certainly be interested in LUKS support myself; i like my data private | 13:48 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | +1 Stskeeps | 13:52 |
| dr_gogeta86 | did you read what i've wrote ? | 13:52 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i got many issue with a 64gb sdcard | 13:53 |
| dr_gogeta86 | even in ext4 | 13:53 |
| dr_gogeta86 | got problem | 13:53 |
| jwalck | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2nov0n/tell_jolla_not_to_use_crowdfunded_money_to_pay/cmg0dzc this sounds disturbing | 13:53 |
| Armadillo | iwhich OS do support LUKS? | 13:53 |
| Armadillo | -i | 13:53 |
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| jwalck | LUKS is connected to the linux kernel | 13:54 |
| jwalck | so anything Linux | 13:54 |
| phdeswer | dr_gogeta86: and are you sure the card is not to blame? Lots of crappy high capacity cards on the market. | 13:54 |
| dr_gogeta86 | amazon shipped sandisk | 13:54 |
| Armadillo | jwalck thx | 13:55 |
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| Armadillo | would the card memory be exposed to Windows via mtp if it is mounted in the Jolla or how does this work? | 13:57 |
| dr_gogeta86 | on first jolla i got ext4 formatted sd card | 13:58 |
| dr_gogeta86 | exported w/o problem via mtp | 13:58 |
| Armadillo | same here | 13:58 |
| Armadillo | but my question relates to LUKS | 13:58 |
| Armadillo | sorry :) | 13:58 |
| dr_gogeta86 | mtp must export the uncrypted mount | 13:59 |
| reviewjolla | Would a card with 32Gb fat partition and 96Gb open file system partition be SDHC compatible? | 13:59 |
| Armadillo | I currently have no idea how to workflow with an encrypted sdcard could be on a smartphone | 13:59 |
| Armadillo | would it be encrapted with the lock screen and will be encrypted with the lock password? | 14:00 |
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| frzk | Armadillo: probably | 14:02 |
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| frzk | Armadillo: it's documented : http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202064 | 14:22 |
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| frzk | Armadillo: and even further here : https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1302613-ios-security-guide-sept-2014.html (starting on Page 9) | 14:25 |
| frzk | Armadillo: basically the user chosen passcode adds entropy to others encryption keys | 14:26 |
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| Armadillo | frzk thanks :) | 14:26 |
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| frzk | Armadillo: also notice that iOS device have dedicated HW for encryption | 14:27 |
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| Armadillo | sure encryption is always pricey | 14:30 |
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| frzk | especially when it's AES-256 :) | 14:32 |
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| Armadillo | I know it's ugly, but is it possible to automatically scroll the text in a label from the right to the left and back? the available width on the covers is to small :-/ | 15:04 |
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| frzk | Armadillo: this should get you started : http://developer.nokia.com/community/wiki/Creating_a_QML_Marquee_Component | 15:09 |
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| frzk | Armadillo: there might be a better solution | 15:11 |
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| jwalck | re: the SD debate on Jolla tablet (and by extension all future sailfish devices), what I can conclude: https://together.jolla.com/question/68539/poll-file-systems-support-on-sd-card-for-jolla-tablet/#post-id-68623 | 15:38 |
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| chem|st | jwalck: not exactly my point in this but a good start | 15:42 |
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| jwalck | chem|st: I'd like to get better clarification on the legal status of SD, much depends on it. If you can have out of the box support for everything and an optional license, hurray! if you cannot, we need to compromise | 15:46 |
| jwalck | I'm guessing having the slot and dropping the SD standard completely is not a sensible option | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | jwalck: without knowing specifics i'm fairly sure it's not as easy as counting downloads. | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | it's a good thought but by my experience, that never flies in mobile | 15:47 |
| jwalck | Stskeeps: what isn't as easy as counting downloads? | 15:48 |
| Stskeeps | as in, easier opt out for those kind of things | 15:48 |
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| Stskeeps | otoh, if you suggest something really good in open source file system support, it probably outweighs any contribution done to microsoft | 15:54 |
| flux | btw, does the current Jolla hardware support 128G cards? | 15:55 |
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| jwalck | flux: from what I understand, the hardware interface is the same for SDHC (up to 32GB) and SDXC (up to 2TB) slots | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | flux: as a bit suggested you can't say that something supports >32gb SD cards without supporting exfat.. :P | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | welcome to the consumer electronics world | 15:57 |
| sandsmark | jwalck: I doubt that makes sense, AFAIK it is a fixed prize for licensing | 15:57 |
| flux | you can say it support Storage Devices of 128GB :P | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | then people will complain we don't support their 1tb usb drive | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:58 |
| flux | well, do we.. | 15:58 |
| sandsmark | and I pretty much doubt that the sd people will let "only advertise it as a software upgrade" thing fly | 15:58 |
| sandsmark | honestly, I don't understand why people get so hung up on the exfat licensing | 15:58 |
| urjaman | because microsoft | 15:59 |
| sandsmark | there are much more expensive patent protections for that kind of HW | 15:59 |
| flux | well, people are relucant to give microsoft money ;-) | 15:59 |
| sandsmark | is microsoft worse than the mpeg group? | 15:59 |
| sandsmark | or fraunhofer | 15:59 |
| flux | yes? | 15:59 |
| sandsmark | how so? | 15:59 |
| flux | microsoft has a history those companies don't, as far as I know | 15:59 |
| sandsmark | no | 15:59 |
| frzk | sandsmark: +1 | 15:59 |
| jwalck | sandsmark: no idea if thats true, or how its organized. the legal status of the license has to be clarified. | 15:59 |
| sandsmark | the mpeg group and fraunhofer are really bad in my book | 16:00 |
| sandsmark | and I'm pretty sure microsoft has other patents covering tablet stuff | 16:00 |
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| jwalck | sandsmark: I have bigger problems with MPEGLA than Microsoft | 16:00 |
| flux | well, how have they shut down competition by adding fragments of code to make competitor products work on them? do they even have any products. | 16:00 |
| sandsmark | jwalck: yeah, me too | 16:00 |
| flux | or made exclusivity agreements to companies | 16:00 |
| sandsmark | flux: wat? | 16:00 |
| jwalck | but I'm trying to be pragmatic and find a solution that's helpful for everyone | 16:01 |
| flux | sandsmark, the age of DOS.. | 16:01 |
| flux | "if you support mp3, you cannot support ogg/vorbis" | 16:01 |
| flux | never heard of that, but then there were companies that were not able to sell computers without windows. | 16:01 |
| sandsmark | ? | 16:01 |
| sandsmark | flux: fyi, microsoft is a part of mpeg la as well | 16:01 |
| jwalck | if a crack can be made in the lockins of proprietary standards withoiut effecting usability much, I'm all for it:) | 16:01 |
| sandsmark | so they still get money | 16:01 |
| flux | that's they history microsoft has and frauenhover/mpeg doesn't ;) | 16:01 |
| flux | sure, anyone who pays enough can be a member. | 16:02 |
| sandsmark | no | 16:02 |
| jwalck | flux: MPEG-LA has been very aggressive with licensing. I know less of the history of the group managing the SD standard | 16:02 |
| sandsmark | they get money from mpeg la for everyone who licenses the patent pool | 16:02 |
| sandsmark | because they have patents in it | 16:02 |
| flux | microsoft is also a member of the khronos group. | 16:02 |
| sandsmark | sure | 16:03 |
| sandsmark | so I don't see why you single them out | 16:03 |
| sandsmark | microsoft also provides free patent protection for some software | 16:03 |
| sandsmark | unlike fraunhofer, for example | 16:03 |
| sandsmark | jwalck: SD can be licensed for US$1,000/year plus membership at US$1,500/year | 16:04 |
| flux | that's great of them, but I wouldn't call fraenhofer not going the same uncompetitive | 16:04 |
| sandsmark | I don't understand that sentence | 16:04 |
| flux | $2.5k doesn't sound a lot. does that include exfat as well? | 16:04 |
| sandsmark | I would think so | 16:04 |
| sandsmark | it is supposed to cover all patents relevant to SD | 16:04 |
| flux | sandsmark, I'm saying people have reasons for not liking companies doing stuff, they have less reasons to hate reasearch institutions for not doing some stuff | 16:05 |
| flux | $2.5k would be peanuts in any case. | 16:05 |
| sandsmark | yes | 16:05 |
| sandsmark | compared to the mp4 licensing, which is 7.5$ per device, iirc | 16:05 |
| sandsmark | and these are just the patent protections I know about that jolla has to pay for | 16:06 |
| sandsmark | there are probably many more pools and companies holding relevant patents | 16:06 |
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| sandsmark | but yeah, who cares about facts :D | 16:08 |
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| sandsmark | we need some tens more suggestions to use another filesystem | 16:09 |
| flux | you were simply asking why people were on so hung up on them, I answered ;) | 16:09 |
| sandsmark | yeah, I'm just tired of people whining :p | 16:09 |
| sandsmark | there are more important issues, imho, like the non-open core applications | 16:10 |
| jwalck | sandsmark: ok! do you have a source? does that include exFAT licensing? | 16:10 |
| jwalck | oh, nvm. reading up.:) | 16:10 |
| flux | I think people would be a lot less hung up on the subject if that cost was correct and published. on the other hand, they would feel vindicated if the real figure were that + even $2/unit ;) | 16:11 |
| jwalck | flux: I think so too. | 16:13 |
| jwalck | sandsmark: I think this is interesting, but shouldn't consume too much energy that can go elsewhere. | 16:13 |
| sandsmark | https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1sc72a/review_googles_179_moto_g_puts_every_single_cheap/cdx15vl | 16:14 |
| flux | it's a conspiracy by jolla folks to redict attention from the closed components.. ;-) | 16:14 |
| sandsmark | haha | 16:14 |
| sandsmark | well, makes sense! | 16:14 |
| jwalck | flux: haha:) | 16:15 |
| chem|st | jwalck: how about https://together.jolla.com/question/68539/poll-file-systems-support-on-sd-card-for-jolla-tablet/#post-id-68643 | 16:16 |
| sandsmark | chem|st: the problem is that the sd group has strict licensing rules for what you can do with sdhc cards/sdxc cards | 16:17 |
| chem|st | sandsmark: so to have another fs you still need extfat being payed if you want to support bigger cards? | 16:18 |
| sandsmark | yes | 16:18 |
| sandsmark | and they already pay for sdhc | 16:19 |
| chem|st | ok so the world is stupid (not that I already knew that) | 16:19 |
| chem|st | in germany you pay GEMA for pendrives and flash nowaday | 16:20 |
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| sandsmark | yeah, patents are fucked up :D | 16:20 |
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| sandsmark | I'm pretty sure jolla already has to pay some money to microsoft for the patents microsoft got 1B USD from samsung over | 16:21 |
| sandsmark | but all that stuff is under strict NDAs, so | 16:21 |
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| sandsmark | also probably to nokia/microsoft, nokia was pretty aggressive suing companies over their phone patents | 16:23 |
| chem|st | sandsmark: is it allowed to format a 128GB sdcard to 32GB and use it like that or is it forbidden to support that card at all? | 16:23 |
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| sandsmark | chem|st: I'm not privvy to the details of the deal, but I really doubt it | 16:24 |
| chem|st | sandsmark: iirc nokia did not sell everything to µsoft | 16:24 |
| sandsmark | chem|st: no, but microsoft already had a license to (ab)use the nokia patents | 16:24 |
| sandsmark | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/09/nokia-confirms-patent-attacks-may-continue-after-microsoft-purchase/ | 16:24 |
| sandsmark | anywho, I'd rather jolla make a stretch goal for opening up the source to all their own software :D | 16:25 |
| sandsmark | I want to fix ui annoyances | 16:25 |
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| urjaman | that i'd consider paying towards :) | 16:28 |
| jwalck | chem|st: sounds ok, having good encryption for everyone and a advanced option for those that know what they want is a good way forward | 16:28 |
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| sandsmark | urjaman: yeah, I think that would alleviate most concerns, and also be a good way to regain some goodwill | 16:29 |
| sudomatic | (sudomatic) I would like to know from where i can get the source for sailfish os | 16:30 |
| sudomatic | I would like to build it for my tab | 16:30 |
| sandsmark | ()? | 16:30 |
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| sandsmark | sudomatic: try #sailfishos-porters | 16:31 |
| sandsmark | sudomatic: it's an irc channel dedicated to porting sailfishos to new devices | 16:31 |
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| sandsmark | sudomatic: also, check if your device is here already: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 16:32 |
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| sudomatic | sandsmark: thanks for the pointers, there is a partial support | 16:35 |
| sandsmark | ok, then you can help out finishing the port :D | 16:35 |
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| chem|st | jwalck: why did you bring up KISS again, what has it to do with sdcards? | 16:44 |
| jwalck | the extravagant solutions that are highly voted right now, with more advanced btrfs features and teathering internal and external memory | 16:44 |
| jwalck | but maybe it was out of scope with that answer | 16:45 |
| jwalck | well it was out of scope, but a reflection on the whole discussion | 16:45 |
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| chem|st | I don't want internal and external mixed, I might want to have a "like-flashed"+installed apps on internal and use the external for changes and userdata, but for sure not a mix where I need to factory-reset if my sdcard goes wild | 16:49 |
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| chem|st | I have that android-sdcard setup for a reason, nothing breaks when I pull the sdcard | 16:49 |
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| jwalck | chem|st: +1 | 16:57 |
| jwalck | and that's where from it came, but it came out of context | 16:57 |
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| RavenholmDX | Getting errors trying to install the SDK | 17:22 |
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| Gigadoc2 | Greetings! | 17:26 |
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| RavenholmDX | Hey Gigadoc2 | 17:29 |
| Gigadoc2 | I read through the chatlogs of the mer-meetings about the open-source status of SFOS and Jolla, but I am still confused: Is there some statement from Jolla whether they'll be able to open up Silica in the future? | 17:29 |
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| Gigadoc2 | (Hoping I am not starting a flamewar with this, just looking for information) | 17:30 |
| Jare | RavenholmDX: what kind of errors..? | 17:30 |
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| RavenholmDX | Jare: think I figured it out | 17:34 |
| RavenholmDX | I was installing it to the none default location | 17:34 |
| RavenholmDX | failed when trying to install to /opt/ | 17:34 |
| Stskeeps | Gigadoc2: if you read the previous meeting logs it'll also explain that decisions about opening certain things sometimes depends on a lot of variables, not always publically known | 17:34 |
| RavenholmDX | even though it had root access | 17:34 |
| Stskeeps | Gigadoc2: it doesn't mean we won't or can't, but that we can't at the moment | 17:35 |
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| Gigadoc2 | Stskeeps: Ok, if that is the latest state of things, that's all I need to know (for now ;) ) | 17:36 |
| Gigadoc2 | Just making sure I didn't miss anything | 17:38 |
| Jare | RavenholmDX: yeah it's recommended to install it under your home folder. Also mentioned in the known issues page :) | 17:38 |
| RavenholmDX | Ah cool, thanks | 17:38 |
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| King_DuckZ | hello, is there some keyboard I can use with the jolla phone? (usb or bluetooth) | 17:43 |
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| urjaman | you can pair a bluetooth keyboard... | 17:44 |
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| RavenholmDX | King_DuckZ: TOHKBD has a day left for backing ;) | 17:45 |
| urjaman | yeah i was thinking if i should link that | 17:46 |
| urjaman | I did an experiment with my nokia SU-8W bluetooth keyboard; it basically works (text fields) except alien dalvik (dunno whats up with that), but ... needs some work :P | 17:47 |
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| King_DuckZ | RavenholmDX: hm nice... I'll see if I can afford that much... I just backed the tablet thing | 17:54 |
| King_DuckZ | RavenholmDX: but either way, I'd probably prefer a "detached" model, so that I can use it with the tablet as well, speaking of that one | 17:54 |
| King_DuckZ | besides I wanted it now, not next year :p | 17:55 |
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| kimmoli | the alien gets keycodes, but doesnt know how to map them. open item on tohkbd list of todos | 18:03 |
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| urjaman | also I'm hoping for more keyboard navigation in the _UI_ and landscape view for lock/home/app list ... but... UI... | 18:06 |
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| VDVsx_ | in case someone is looking for app ideas here's a candidate :) https://together.jolla.com/question/54249/how-to-saving-sms-text-conversations | 18:27 |
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| FloR707 | Hi, I need some help again… | 19:07 |
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| FloR707 | I want to use Qt Sensors but I get an error: module "QtSensors" is not installed | 19:07 |
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| FloR707 | When I manage my targets and enter qt5-qtdeclarative-import-sensors I get the information that it is installed. | 19:08 |
| FloR707 | In the pro file I added QT += sensors | 19:09 |
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| coderus | FloR707: you using it from C++ or QML side? | 19:27 |
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| coderus | BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5Sensors) | 19:27 |
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| coderus | Requires: qt5-qtdeclarative-import-sensors qt5-qtsensors-plugin-gestures-sensor qt5-qtsensors-plugin-gestures-shake | 19:27 |
| FloR707 | QML | 19:28 |
| coderus | above should help | 19:28 |
| coderus | use requires, don't install packages needed by your package manually | 19:28 |
| FloR707 | What do you mean by requires? | 19:29 |
| coderus | BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5Sensors) | 19:29 |
| coderus | Requires: qt5-qtdeclarative-import-sensors qt5-qtsensors-plugin-gestures-sensor qt5-qtsensors-plugin-gestures-shake | 19:29 |
| coderus | in spec/yaml | 19:30 |
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| FloR707 | I put BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5Sensors) in spec to the others and the rest in yaml. | 19:33 |
| FloR707 | Cleared and rebuild | 19:33 |
| FloR707 | Still getting the error. | 19:34 |
| FloR707 | Do I have to install anything first? | 19:34 |
| FloR707 | Looks like it is only a problem in the emulator… Is it not possible to test app using Qt Sensors on the Emulator? | 19:37 |
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| Buster_O | hey guys, i'm new at developing with Qt, could you suggest me any good book or tutorial website to get on with it? Before i've developed with Java and C# | 19:55 |
| Acce | hmm | 19:57 |
| Acce | http://qmlbook.org/ | 19:57 |
| Acce | for QML | 19:57 |
| Acce | which might be nice intro | 19:58 |
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| Buster_O | thanks for the advice Acce :) | 20:02 |
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| Toxip | hello | 21:09 |
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| Toxip | I'm coding this game for Sailfish with QML and I started wondering if it's possible to create an effect for Flickable element similar to Silica Page element where the element sort of locks in to a page instead of free scrolling? | 21:14 |
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| Acce | maybe a silicalistview? | 21:18 |
| Acce | then make your delegate size of the page | 21:18 |
| Acce | and tell it to snap to one item | 21:18 |
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| Toxip | hmm, I gotta check that out... | 21:19 |
| Acce | namely http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtquick-listview.html#snapMode-prop | 21:20 |
| Toxip | thanks | 21:20 |
| Toxip | but can I scroll it sideways? | 21:20 |
| Acce | yw! | 21:21 |
| Acce | yeah | 21:21 |
| Acce | just set it into horizontal mode | 21:21 |
| Toxip | cool | 21:21 |
| Toxip | what version of Qt does Uitukka have again? | 21:22 |
| Acce | you might get some idea from this too https://github.com/Acce0ss/simpleweather/blob/master/qml/modules/Pager.qml | 21:22 |
| Acce | 5.2 | 21:22 |
| Acce | but 5.3 hasn't changed too much, so pretty much anything in 5.3 is correct | 21:23 |
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| Toxip | well, gotta check that tomorrow cause it's late... thanks for the tips :) | 21:25 |
| Toxip | I'm new to this QML programming so my code propably looks ugly :D | 21:25 |
| Acce | don't worry :) | 21:26 |
| Acce | the important thing for improvement is to do something | 21:26 |
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| coderus | do not hestinate to show your code and ask to improve it ;0 | 21:57 |
| coderus | :) | 21:57 |
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