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| Juuba | hmmh | 09:02 |
| Juuba | my SMS "Messages" -app is frozen | 09:02 |
| Juuba | close and re-open does not help | 09:03 |
| Juuba | it's just stuck | 09:03 |
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| Juuba | (ofc i mean the built-in app, but on my phone) :D | 09:04 |
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| SK_work | Juuba: terminal, killall jolla-messages | 09:10 |
| SK_work | should work | 09:10 |
| Juuba | yes, ty | 09:18 |
| Juuba | didn't even need devel-su | 09:18 |
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| menoetius | greets fellas. | 09:48 |
| menoetius | I am packing my phone for return today--a Jolla--and am doing manual backups of the Android environment. | 09:49 |
| menoetius | I know that Sailfish OS' bacup functionality is rather limited, especially for the Android environment | 09:50 |
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| menoetius | does anybody dave a good write-up of a Sailfish-specific bacup guide that takes all user files and settings, including the Android env.? | 09:51 |
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| menoetius | I have had mixed results w. my own backups; would be excellent to know how to preserve files and permissions for better restoration after factory reset | 09:53 |
| menoetius | all tips welcome. thanks! | 09:54 |
| javispedro | menoetius, it's not entirely unreasonable to use an android backup program to backup the android environment | 09:54 |
| javispedro | specially if you're already used to one | 09:54 |
| menoetius | javispedro: interesting, the thought never struck me. will this manage user ids and permissions for me? | 09:55 |
| javispedro | well, if it works with android :) | 09:56 |
| javispedro | cause I'm not sure if you can actually assume user ids are going to be same on android.. | 09:56 |
| javispedro | so manual tar --preserve might fail, but I dunno about this. | 09:56 |
| menoetius | javispedro: yeah, I am not sure if the Android env. mimicks the data structure entirely. | 09:57 |
| menoetius | javispedro: but good tip! | 09:57 |
| javispedro | mostly yes | 09:57 |
| menoetius | I'll do a bit of research and testing see how it works out =) | 09:58 |
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| tachikoma | hi, i know i had that before, but am too stupid to use google today it seem ... could anyone point me to a layout description of the jolla phone backside? I mean a description telling me which pins are power,w hich i2c and so on? | 10:11 |
| tachikoma | ah, guess i found it after all: http://jolla.com/the-other-half-developer-kit/ | 10:12 |
| r0kk3rz_ | Yeah the TOH dk will tell you everything | 10:13 |
| r0kk3rz_ | and then theres kimmoli for everything else | 10:14 |
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| kimmoli | \o | 11:25 |
| kimmoli | tachikoma: suggested reading - http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92329 | 11:26 |
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| tachikoma | kimmoli: thx | 12:01 |
| tachikoma | I'm just utting a QI receiver in for now, but thanks | 12:01 |
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| tachikoma | mh, is there a way to see if the phone receives electricity from the connectors on the back? | 12:34 |
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| cos- | today would be a good day for update | 12:40 |
| cos- | https://www.trustedsec.com/september-2014/shellshock-dhcp-rce-proof-concept/ | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | dhclient specific? | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | i don't think we have scripted network hooks in our stack | 12:41 |
| cos- | that's good | 12:42 |
| cos- | perhaps someone could verify this | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | i'm fairly certain of it.. tigeli / aard ? | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | we use connman so | 12:44 |
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| kimmoli | tachikoma: i have tools for you https://openrepos.net/content/kimmoli/charge-monitor | 12:46 |
| tachikoma | ah, nice | 12:50 |
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| tachikoma | mh, i get some authentication issues for the repo when using it with the warehouse app | 12:54 |
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| tachikoma | kimmoli: thanks a lot, just charging my phone wireless for the first time \o/ | 13:10 |
| coderus | tachikoma: maybe you have ancient old warehouse and didnt updated it for ages? | 13:11 |
| tachikoma | coderus: could be, i installed at the command line and there it worked | 13:12 |
| cos- | i also had to reinstall warehouse from web page | 13:12 |
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| cos- | i'm also not sure if "check for updates" works.. at least it doesn't find anything and nothing has been updated in ages | 13:13 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | here it works well | 13:15 |
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| cos- | oh, it has updates but "check for updates" doesn't show them | 13:16 |
| cos- | still no "update all"-button :/ | 13:17 |
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| coderus | contact author and tell all wishes? :D | 13:23 |
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| cos- | i hope he's reading :-) | 13:26 |
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| coderus | BasilSemuonov: reading? :D | 14:18 |
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| kimmoli | are the webhooks working (or selfconfigurable?) would like to put some stuff in obs... | 15:11 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: i asked but got no answer :D | 15:24 |
| locusf | stuffs happening in #mer-boss | 15:25 |
| Morpog_PC__ | it is? | 15:25 |
| locusf | you guys don't have webhooks accounts? | 15:25 |
| Morpog_PC__ | i got my webhook setup on #nemomobile back then | 15:25 |
| coderus | locusf: no i havent. asked tbr to create mine. or it was Stskeeps, i dont remember exactly | 15:26 |
| coderus | and it stopped working somwhow... | 15:26 |
| tbr | humm? | 15:26 |
| tbr | I don't have root on OBS | 15:26 |
| Morpog_PC__ | i think you asked lbt | 15:26 |
| coderus | or it was lbt_away :D | 15:27 |
| coderus | i sometimes mistake tbr and lbt | 15:28 |
| coderus | :D | 15:28 |
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| kimmoli | i hacked commit to _service manually and got build done | 15:43 |
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| coderus | i dont want to do manually anything :D | 16:09 |
| kimmoli | i have electrodes in my head already | 16:10 |
| r0kk3rz_ | explains a lot kimmoli ;) | 16:14 |
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| kimmoli | does anyone had similar issue "there's something wrong with it. Gui can't connect - frequent green flashes with screen blank after the initial boot sequence. " | 16:49 |
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| Shinryuu | wut | 17:02 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | so many exploits | 17:21 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | i wonder why they all surfaced now | 17:21 |
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| Naranek | r0kk3rz_: you mean the bash related ones? | 17:25 |
| r0kk3rz_ | and a mozilla based one | 17:27 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | poor Jolla guys are trying to release the Qt update, and they keep having to QA release candidates thanks to exploit patches | 17:29 |
| kimmoli | i say it is conspiracy - to delay update | 17:29 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | yeah I recon | 17:29 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | Jolla sailors hacking the world because their updates not ready | 17:34 |
| Naranek | or people hacking the world so that the Jolla update is delayed | 17:39 |
| Naranek | THEY don't want us to have it | 17:40 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | those bastards | 17:43 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | Although I expect update 10 to be quite delayed thanks to update 9 | 17:45 |
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| Naranek | Another alternative is that it'll be a pretty quick bugfix release, because of the Qt 5.2. It would be cool to number it as A instead of 10 though ;) | 17:52 |
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| r0kk3rz | hexadecimal ftw | 18:13 |
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| keithzg | "Today we're releasing update 0x1F" | 18:40 |
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| cos- | no update, but there is still over 2h left | 18:46 |
| tigeli | cos-, Stskeeps: connman should not be vulnerable like dhcpcd | 18:46 |
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| cos- | tigeli: good to know | 18:47 |
| tigeli | at least I'm not aware any shellhooks | 18:47 |
| tigeli | cos-: if you want you can compile bash from https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/bash | 18:48 |
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| r0kk3rz | additional note: connman isnt vulnerable because it barely works | 18:52 |
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| keithzg | hahahaha | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | r0kk3rz: i wish that wasn't true | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:26 |
| r0kk3rz | Haha jokes | 19:27 |
| r0kk3rz | im sure you guys will get there | 19:27 |
| r0kk3rz | in the mean time its the aussie thing to take the piss | 19:28 |
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| keithzg | Huh, Intel is still "[leading] the ConnMan project", eh? Is it still in Tizen then too? | 19:30 |
| r0kk3rz | isnt the current goss that samsung is dropping tizen | 19:31 |
| keithzg | Naw people have been rumoring that for ages. I doubt they'll ever quite drop it, it's too juicy as their Plan B / Threat To Google. | 19:31 |
| r0kk3rz | and intel are great at making chips. but software? nah | 19:32 |
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| Stskeeps | well, let's be fair: a lot of good things have come from intel and good impact on the linux stack as a whole | 19:32 |
| r0kk3rz | it is an obvious exit strategy from goog | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | think powertop as an example | 19:32 |
| keithzg | Yeah I was just thinking of powertop. | 19:32 |
| r0kk3rz | powertop was intel? cool | 19:33 |
| keithzg | They're good at tiny components and utilities, they just never quite had the heart for larger metaprojects. | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | crosswalk is something i am looking at as well | 19:33 |
| SpeedEvil | powertop - on maemo - was not related to the intel powertop | 19:34 |
| SpeedEvil | other than as a clone | 19:34 |
| r0kk3rz | crosswalk? | 19:34 |
| keithzg | https://crosswalk-project.org/ | 19:34 |
| r0kk3rz | that looks cool | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | compared to firefox os at least these guys -try- to be a html5 runtime | 19:36 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah well html5 is a moving target | 19:38 |
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| keithzg | How does the feature set compare to Qt's WebEngine? Although I guess that's not really shipping with stable Qt versions yet. | 19:42 |
| Stskeeps | crosswork is chromium based at least | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | / blink | 19:44 |
| keithzg | Yeah, so that's pretty comparable. I guess Blink is the new WebKit, heh, since everyone seems to be transitioning to it. KHTML keeps on forking down the line . . . | 19:46 |
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| keithzg | Hmm, am I just blind? Trying to figure out what mp3 decoder gstreamer is using, but nowhere in the big "gst-inspect-0.10 --plugin" list do I see one listed. | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | gst-av i think | 20:01 |
| keithzg | Aha, yeah I see that there in the list, just listed more generically as "av audio decoder" rather than specifically for mp3s. That's gotta be it then. | 20:04 |
| keithzg | Time to fumble around some more and see if I can pin down exactly what's causing https://together.jolla.com/question/23341/garbled-playback-of-some-mp3s-with-builtin-player/ since it continues to bite me! | 20:05 |
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| keithzg | Wait, Sailfish/Mer is still using gstreamer from early 2012? | 20:12 |
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| javispedro | mwhahahahaha! | 20:13 |
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| keithzg | Whelp, time to compile a modern copy of gstreamer and see if *that* can play low-Hz mp3s without skipping on Sailfish. Shouldn't be too hard to compile an entirely multimedia framework , right? ;) | 20:19 |
| javispedro | you're going to die in the attempt, keithzg | 20:19 |
| javispedro | the problem is probably 0.10 vs 1.0 ab i | 20:19 |
| javispedro | *abi | 20:19 |
| javispedro | (it's a guess -- anyone who knows for sure jump in and correct me) | 20:20 |
| javispedro | moving that is a shitton of work and probably impossible in jolla because it will hit some closed source package for certain | 20:21 |
| keithzg | Yeah, I've been kindof figuring that myself here. And I certainly don't begrudge Jolla for not wanting to devote the resources to the switch. But I suspect it's also why bugs like the low-Hz skipping on podcasts happen, since there hasn't been a release of gstreamer 0.10 since February 2012, so the bugs have started to accumulate. | 20:21 |
| javispedro | 0.10 is still quite prevalent though | 20:22 |
| javispedro | does it happen on e.g. ubuntu? | 20:22 |
| keithzg | Nope. | 20:22 |
| javispedro | big chance they're still using 0.10 too | 20:22 |
| javispedro | I'm using 0.10 too :) | 20:22 |
| Stskeeps | they're on 1.0 | 20:23 |
| javispedro | meh, damn gnome 3 and their quick release cycle. | 20:23 |
| javispedro | :) | 20:23 |
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| javispedro | baseaudiosink gstbaseaudiosink.c:1567:gst_base_audio_sink_get_alignment:<audiosink-actual-sink-pulse> Unexpected discontinuity in audio timestamps of -0:00:17.179875000, resyncing | 20:39 |
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| javispedro | pulse pulsesink.c:651:gst_pulsering_stream_underflow_cb:<audiosink-actual-sink-pulse> Got underflow | 20:39 |
| keithzg | I swear before I didn't see any relevant output, but running now I do see "[mp3 @ 0x421b7360] overread, skip -9 enddists: -5 -5" and such when it skips. | 20:47 |
| keithzg | I probably just put the -v in the wrong place or something equally foolish. | 20:48 |
| keithzg | gstreamer0.10 is still in the *buntu repos, even though everything I actually have installed seems to use 1.0, so I've tried installing that. By default it runs fine. Tried to mimic the plugin setup on Sailfish by compiling and installing https://github.com/felipec/gst-av, but it actually causes a crash if I try to run gstreamer with that plugin installed. | 20:49 |
| javispedro | you should put something like --gst-debug=*:2 | 20:50 |
| javispedro | or :3 | 20:50 |
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| javispedro | :5 increases verbosity too much | 20:50 |
| javispedro | e.g. this launches the "glitching" pipeline: gst-launch-0.10 --gst-debug=*:2 filesrc location=bill.flac ! flacparse ! avadec ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! volume ! pulsesink | 20:50 |
| javispedro | the glitches happen in the first 20 seconds already right when he starts with the list of cities | 20:51 |
| javispedro | weird: they happen at fixed locations which are the same everytime I run it | 20:51 |
| javispedro | the uncompressed .wav version works: gst-launch-0.10 --gst-debug=*:2 filesrc location=bill.wav ! wavparse ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! volume ! pulsesink | 20:52 |
| javispedro | if libav is used for mp3 too, then it seems libav may be to blame (mp3, flac, ogg are affected, all of them use libav) | 20:52 |
| keithzg | Yeah, that seems likely. | 20:53 |
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| javispedro | definitely not pulseaudio problem | 20:55 |
| javispedro | gst-launch-0.10 --gst-debug=*:3 filesrc location=bill.flac ! flacparse ! avadec ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! audio/x-raw-int, rate=44000, channels=1 ! pulsesink | 20:55 |
| javispedro | this fails | 20:56 |
| javispedro | despite sending 44kHz data to pulseaudio | 20:56 |
| javispedro | in fact, audioresample now complains about the "glitches": | 20:56 |
| javispedro | audioresample gstaudioresample.c:1020:gst_audio_resample_check_discont:<audioresample0> encountered timestamp discontinuity of 68719 samples = 0:00:08.589875 | 20:56 |
| javispedro | (and yes, the glitches are really 8seconds long..) | 20:56 |
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| javispedro | using alternative decoder for the .flac version: | 21:00 |
| javispedro | gst-launch-0.10 --gst-debug=*:3 filesrc location=bill.flac ! flacparse ! flacdec ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! audio/x-raw-int, rate=44000, channels=2 ! pulsesink | 21:00 |
| javispedro | ... works. | 21:00 |
| keithzg | That seems pretty conclusive! | 21:00 |
| javispedro | problem is gst-av or libav... | 21:00 |
| javispedro | :P | 21:00 |
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| javispedro | still, using gst-av to convert the file to a .wav works... | 21:03 |
| javispedro | e.g. gst-launch-0.10 --gst-debug=*:3 filesrc location=bill.flac ! flacparse ! avadec ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! wavenc ! filesink location=test.wav | 21:03 |
| javispedro | .oO(why libav preferred even over gstreamer's "good" codecs?) | 21:04 |
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| keithzg | Blame Felipec, I guess? ;) | 21:23 |
| javispedro | no idea, but I'd try to build gst-av | 21:23 |
| javispedro | possibly insert plenty of trace/printfs in the timing functions | 21:23 |
| javispedro | the source seems simple enough | 21:24 |
| javispedro | https://github.com/felipec/gst-av/blob/master/gstav_adec.c | 21:24 |
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| keithzg | If only I didn't suck at C++, heh. | 21:28 |
| javispedro | it's C :) | 21:28 |
| keithzg | Oh, well in THAT case ;) | 21:31 |
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| javispedro | 0:00:12.180436440 5025 0xd5660 LOG av gstav_adec.c:189:check_timestamps:<avaudiodec0> self timestamp = 0:00:03.410065408 | 21:47 |
| javispedro | so after 12 seconds of audio gst-av still believes it's at 3.41 seconds of decoded audio | 21:48 |
| javispedro | sSomething is rotten in the state of Denmark... | 21:48 |
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| javispedro | use of G_UNLIKELY macro despite condition being true in virtually every single execution of that conditional ... check✓ | 21:52 |
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| javispedro | uaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh | 22:28 |
| javispedro | ok, felipec did make a mistake. | 22:28 |
| javispedro | implicit cast from uint64_t to uint32_t in a return value | 22:29 |
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| javispedro | buffer duration when using 8kHz rate can be > 4 seconds... which overflows a uint32_t | 22:29 |
| javispedro | (yes, gst uses µsecond timers) | 22:29 |
| javispedro | *cough | 22:31 |
| keithzg | Oho! | 22:31 |
| javispedro | I mean, gst uses nano-second timers ( http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/data/doc/gstreamer/head/gstreamer/html/GstClock.html#GST-SECOND:CAPS ) | 22:31 |
| javispedro | so the 3.41 seconds we see is actually 12,000,000,000 truncated to a uint32_t | 22:31 |
| javispedro | simple sanity check. 12billion = 0x2'CB417800 | 22:32 |
| javispedro | 0xCB417800 = 3,410,065,408 | 22:32 |
| javispedro | which is 3.41 seconds | 22:32 |
| javispedro | perfect! | 22:32 |
| javispedro | one-line fix.. | 22:33 |
| keithzg | ! | 22:33 |
| javispedro | actually two-char fix... | 22:33 |
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| javispedro | keithzg: will you be here around for long? | 22:34 |
| keithzg | javispedro: Yeah, I'll be around for at least two or three more hours. | 22:35 |
| javispedro | ok, will try to build a patched package in obs | 22:35 |
| javispedro | let's see if this is the only issue or there are more | 22:35 |
| javispedro | https://github.com/felipec/gst-av/blob/master/gstav_adec.c#L168 | 22:37 |
| javispedro | there's the cast by the way, function returns a uint32_t yet calculation is done using uint64_t size | 22:37 |
| javispedro | anyone knows where felipec is those days btw? still nokia? | 22:39 |
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| keithzg | Getting stalker-y, https://www.linkedin.com/in/felipec has his tenure at Nokia being from March 2007 to December 2013. | 22:54 |
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| keithzg | I tried changing lines 168 to "static inline uint64_t" and compiled the .so, dropped it in place and it's working for me so far (I'll reverse that for testing once you have a package ready). | 23:00 |
| javispedro | yep, just built it | 23:01 |
| javispedro | http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/javispedro:/jolla/sailfish_latest_armv7hl/armv7hl/ | 23:01 |
| javispedro | though no need to install the package then | 23:01 |
| javispedro | so don't install it =) | 23:01 |
| keithzg | Heh | 23:01 |
| javispedro | (dunno what problems will cause when a system upgrade comes) | 23:02 |
| javispedro | 0:00:59.950160226 7283 0x590660 LOG av gstav_adec.c:189:check_timestamps:<avaudiodec0> self timestamp = 0:01:00.000000000 | 23:02 |
| javispedro | timestamps are now exact :) | 23:02 |
| javispedro | so yeah, I think this fixes it | 23:02 |
| javispedro | will submit a pull request to felipec, hopefully jolla can pull the update down in a further update | 23:03 |
| keithzg | Cool cool. | 23:05 |
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| keithzg | Open source in action :) | 23:10 |
| javispedro | yep, small success story | 23:11 |
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| javispedro | pullreq: https://github.com/felipec/gst-av/pull/3 | 23:15 |
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| tat | my earpeace works again, | 23:37 |
| tat | had it brocken some 2 weeks ago | 23:38 |
| tat | so i guess it was a software thingi | 23:38 |
| tat | but i got a new problem the phone turns sometimes off, | 23:38 |
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