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| codehotter | i have several 22khz mono mp3 that play fine on my laptop but behave strangely on my sailfish phone: it plays fine for several seconds then it starts skipping through the file. Where can I get started to troubleshoot this? | 08:30 |
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| tomyri | asked same thing 4 months ago | 09:30 |
| flux | codehotter, well, 22kHz mono mp3s are probably very rare to begin with. if you just want to play it, perhaps you can convert it to at least stereo.. | 09:31 |
| flux | other than that, well, try low-level tools for playing it? | 09:32 |
| flux | I don't know if sailfishos comes with any :) | 09:32 |
| flux | alternative approach: try if qt5 on your desktop is able to play it | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | paplay? check with wav | 09:32 |
| flux | I suppose paplay may not play things other than wavs, but you could make verified a 22 kHz mono wav for it | 09:33 |
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| walokra | ha! now my ampiaiskala app was approved. power consumption 0 - 1 me | 09:39 |
| Nicd- | \o/ | 09:39 |
| kimmoli | :) | 09:40 |
| flux | walokra, did you modify it?-) | 09:40 |
| walokra | hard to know what the issue was but just changed it to close webview when user goes back to news feed view | 09:40 |
| walokra | but user has to go back from pulldown menu, so the webview is still open when flicking back | 09:41 |
| Juuba | what is ampiaiskala ? :D | 09:43 |
| walokra | ampparit.com news feed reader | 09:43 |
| Juuba | k | 09:43 |
| walokra | pretty simple as ampparit doesn't provide real api | 09:44 |
| Juuba | i dont read news from ampparit actively, mby i'll give this beefish a show | 09:44 |
| Juuba | shot* | 09:44 |
| walokra | planning to do one for high.fi as it's "better" | 09:45 |
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| codehotter | flux: they are rare for music, but quite common for podcasts, etc. | 10:03 |
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| codehotter | I'll try converting it to a 22khz mono wav and see what paplay thinks of that | 10:03 |
| flux | I wouldn't be surprised if there were some trouble in the framework for dealing with music that's not 44 or 48 kHz, or not 16 bit, or not stereo :) | 10:04 |
| codehotter | it is not, however, music. It's speech. | 10:04 |
| flux | well, audio | 10:04 |
| flux | I imagine pulseaudio should be the component that resamples everything incompatible to something compatible for the hardware | 10:05 |
| flux | or actually I shuold say that this is my current understanding. I wonder if there are exceptions if there is only one active audio source, but it seems doubtful, though there could be some performance benefits to playing 32 kHz sound as 32 kHz instead of resampling it. | 10:06 |
| sharpneli | Resampling such a low bandwith signal is really a non issue | 10:07 |
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| flux | still takes a few % cpu, no? | 10:14 |
| sharpneli | I'd be surprised if it would go up to even a percent. But it's hard to say how pulseaudio does it. | 10:15 |
| sharpneli | Probably someone has implemented a neon based resampler there | 10:15 |
| flux | libsamplerate which my desktop pulseaudio depends on doesn't seem to have any special platform-specific optimizations, but I don't know about jolla | 10:18 |
| sharpneli | Depends on how it's written. It can be relatively generic C that works well with gcc autovectorizer | 10:19 |
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| gabriel9|work | any news on account api? | 10:35 |
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| tomyri | i tested qmediaplayer at jolla with all combinations of 44kHz,22kHz mono and stereo and only one to fail was 22k mono | 11:18 |
| flux | tomyri, test on desktop as well to verify if it's a jolla-specific issue? | 11:19 |
| tomyri | tested with vlc, is it enough? :) | 11:21 |
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| flux | well, if it uses qmediaplayer then maybe :) | 11:37 |
| flux | but I doubt it does :) | 11:37 |
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| coderus | how to get proximity sensor state from c++ side? | 12:07 |
| SK_work | coderus: is there a QML component ? | 12:11 |
| SK_work | because if there is one, there should be a C++ conterpart | 12:11 |
| kimmoli_sailing | i have read it from sysfs | 12:12 |
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| coderus | kimmoli_sailing: is it accept file socket? | 12:13 |
| MSameer | coderus: QtSensors has that | 12:14 |
| kimmoli | last time i tried qtsensors, it didn't work... but it is ages ago | 12:15 |
| MSameer | i think there is QProximitySensor class | 12:15 |
| kimmoli | i check it still from here /sys/devices/virtual/input/input10/prx_detect | 12:15 |
| MSameer | I used it for cameraplus and I recall it worked | 12:15 |
| kimmoli | ok, maybe i need to change to use that too ... | 12:17 |
| coderus | need to check QProximitySensor class sources | 12:18 |
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| coderus | because one file socket can be better than this class :) | 12:18 |
| Waitee | coderus: was there some trick to prevent mitäkuuluu from losing connection over time? | 12:19 |
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| Nicd- | artemma: is it on purpose that your Night Silence app has the A+B icon? | 12:19 |
| coderus | Waitee: sure. switch from Sailfish to other platform :) | 12:19 |
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| Waitee | :D | 12:19 |
| artemma | Nicd-: nope that'a a messup of a late submission just before the trip :) | 12:20 |
| coderus | Waitee: as its Sailfish feature you should be excited when your applications losing connection, because it saves your battery and its best invention ever! | 12:20 |
| MSameer | coderus: it might be going through hybris (not sure) | 12:20 |
| coderus | MSameer: then i'll use file socket better :) | 12:20 |
| Waitee | coderus: lol so i've heard, just checked if you knew a workaround for it or something ;D | 12:21 |
| Waitee | thanks anyway | 12:21 |
| Nicd- | Waitee: set automatic email checking | 12:21 |
| Nicd- | it seems to keep the phone awake enough. at least my mitakuuluu doesn't lose connectivity | 12:21 |
| Waitee | oh | 12:21 |
| kimmoli | coderus: i use actully poll to monitor that | 12:21 |
| Waitee | Nicd-: ty | 12:21 |
| kimmoli | and get event whenever it changes | 12:22 |
| Waitee | okay... | 12:23 |
| Waitee | settings app crashes when i tap the email logo | 12:24 |
| Waitee | what the fuck sailfish | 12:24 |
| Waitee | iReboot | 12:24 |
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| Nicd- | Waitee: would've been nice to journalctl -fa | 12:25 |
| Armadillo | are there any information when the settings will be useable for harbour apps? | 12:25 |
| Waitee | Nicd-: shit, forgot | 12:25 |
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| Waitee | Nicd-: what is that supposed to do? | 12:27 |
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| Nicd- | did you reboot already? | 12:28 |
| Waitee | yes | 12:28 |
| Nicd- | then it's too late | 12:28 |
| Waitee | still cant access email settings | 12:28 |
| Waitee | settings app crashes every time | 12:29 |
| Nicd- | well, open journalctl -fa, then try accessing the settings | 12:29 |
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| Waitee | done | 12:29 |
| Nicd- | then look at what's in your terminal | 12:29 |
| Nicd- | and? | 12:30 |
| Nicd- | anything strange? | 12:30 |
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| Waitee | showing user generated messages only. jada jada jada | 12:31 |
| Nicd- | run it with devel-su | 12:31 |
| Waitee | righ | 12:31 |
| Nicd- | so you can see everything | 12:31 |
| Waitee | allright | 12:32 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: sure, i'll use QSocketNotifier | 12:33 |
| coderus | it doing same | 12:33 |
| kimmoli | ok | 12:33 |
| Waitee | umm | 12:34 |
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| Waitee | QQmlImportDatabase::importPlugin:1697 - Module 'com.jolla.email-settings-translations' does not contain a module identifier directive it cannot... something | 12:36 |
| Nicd- | that's normal | 12:37 |
| SK_work | Waitee: that's not a problem | 12:37 |
| Waitee | ookay | 12:38 |
| Waitee | is debugDump normal? | 12:38 |
| Nicd- | I don't know | 12:39 |
| Nicd- | if you want, you could pastebin the whole thing (just checking it doesn't have anything sensitive first), then maybe some jolla people can take a look at it | 12:40 |
| Waitee | hmm | 12:40 |
| Waitee | i'll look at it | 12:41 |
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| coderus | need to watch call started / call ended and [http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1424378#post1424378] will be done :) | 12:47 |
| coderus | time to learn ofono | 12:48 |
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| SK_work | coderus: wonder if there are DBus messages when calls are started / ended etc | 12:51 |
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| kimmoli_sailing | i have those phone call dbus ready | 12:55 |
| SK_work | kimmoli_sailing: where ? | 12:56 |
| kimmoli_sailing | ah still private repi | 12:57 |
| kimmoli_sailing | o | 12:57 |
| kimmoli_sailing | moment | 12:57 |
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| kimmoli | SK_work: coderus http://pastebin.com/RwCu6U3J | 13:05 |
| SK_work | Sfiet_Konstantin: ^ | 13:05 |
| SK_work | (pinging my computer at home) | 13:06 |
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| kimmoli | i'm getting old. SK like S and K | 13:07 |
| SK_work | kimmoli: ??? | 13:09 |
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| kimmoli | it just took a looong time to connect the dots in you nick :) | 13:09 |
| kimmoli | or nicks | 13:10 |
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| SK_work | :D | 13:10 |
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| kimmoli | call ended was trickier to get, but i was not interested in that | 13:16 |
| SK_work | kimmoli: can you get the difference between "dialing" and "ringing" (and "communication established" ?) | 13:17 |
| kimmoli | none -> ringing -> active when incoming which is answered | 13:18 |
| kimmoli | none -> active when placing new call | 13:18 |
| kimmoli | iirc there was also other dbus activity which was related to the actuall call | 13:18 |
| kimmoli | none -> ringing -> none unanswered call | 13:18 |
| SK_work | hum ... | 13:21 |
| SK_work | need to study thios deeper | 13:21 |
| SK_work | thanks anyway :) | 13:21 |
| kimmoli | i was just interested on incoming call, and is it missed/answered | 13:21 |
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| kimmoli | so didn't dig deeper after got it working well-enough | 13:22 |
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| m4g0g | guys, may be somebody have created library for sailfish? | 13:36 |
| m4g0g | Can you give me an exmaple of yaml and spec files? | 13:37 |
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| coderus | SK_work: sure | 13:48 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: SK_work i'm using QDBusConnection::systemBus().connect("", "", "org.ofono.VoiceCallManager","PropertyChanged", this, SIGNAL(ofonoPropertyChanged(QString,QVariant))); | 13:55 |
| m4g0g | nobody has? | 13:55 |
| coderus | m4g0g: only extensions library | 13:56 |
| coderus | i.e. plugins | 13:56 |
| SK_work | coderus: right | 13:56 |
| SK_work | thanks | 13:56 |
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| kimmoli | i did took a look on that first, but it always said "transferred" or something stupid - not anything valuable | 13:58 |
| kimmoli | I have multisim and i'm roaming always, dont know does that have infleunce | 14:00 |
| m4g0g | coderus: no. I want to add kqoauth to sailfish | 14:02 |
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| locusf | m4g0g: https://github.com/locusf/bluewhale <- look at my project for an example how to integrate kQOAuth to your app | 14:50 |
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| m4g0g | locusf: thy | 15:04 |
| m4g0g | you embed it? | 15:05 |
| m4g0g | fuck | 15:05 |
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| m4g0g | may be let's add it to sailfish repos? | 15:05 |
| locusf | m4g0g: sure if you tell me how :) | 15:05 |
| fenix_fx | locusf, maybe you want create client for popular social site? :) | 15:05 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: then, look at the huge list of libs in github.com/nemomobile | 15:05 |
| locusf | fenix_fx: what do you mean? | 15:06 |
| fenix_fx | locusf, client for vk.com | 15:06 |
| locusf | fenix_fx: I dunno about that | 15:07 |
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| fenix_fx | locusf, they have nice api, you can look at and test it | 15:08 |
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| fenix_fx | https://vk.com/dev/openapi | 15:09 |
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| walokra | heh, "VK is the largest European social network". never heard of it | 15:13 |
| meek_geek | hi | 15:13 |
| walokra | and it looks like facebook clone | 15:13 |
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| meek_geek | VK = JK | 15:14 |
| meek_geek | Use GNU SOCIAL | 15:14 |
| meek_geek | or identica or twitter ( if you cannot live without one ) | 15:14 |
| SK_work | walokra: russian FB | 15:15 |
| SK_work | meek_geek: nope, I use FB :P | 15:15 |
| SK_work | (troll inside don't reply plz) | 15:15 |
| fenix_fx | i use vk, why i need use others?) | 15:15 |
| meek_geek | Who is the troll ? | 15:16 |
| SK_work | meek_geek: me | 15:16 |
| meek_geek | SK_work, no seriously ? | 15:16 |
| coderus | proximity speaker backend is ready | 15:17 |
| SK_work | meek_geek: yep, me, by saying I use FB :P | 15:17 |
| coderus | its only need to add gui :) | 15:17 |
| SK_work | coderus: ??? | 15:17 |
| SK_work | what's that ? | 15:17 |
| SK_work | ah | 15:17 |
| fenix_fx | walokra, 1 month ago did not heard about reddit, aaand?) | 15:17 |
| SK_work | I can understand, sounds nice | 15:17 |
| coderus | SK_work: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1424378#post1424378 | 15:17 |
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| meek_geek | SK_work, you should not use FB - its spying on ya | 15:18 |
| meek_geek | :] | 15:18 |
| meek_geek | please bro | 15:18 |
| SK_work | meek_geek: I use what others use though | 15:18 |
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| Stskeeps | meek_geek: i think that's a bit off topic for here, more for #jollamobile | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | people use the social networks they want | 15:19 |
| meek_geek | SK_work, Ya what is the point of usign a social net on which you find no one but us! lol | 15:19 |
| SK_work | using gnu social or identica is rather pointless since you cannot achieve what a social network do, that is interacting with people | 15:19 |
| meek_geek | Stskeeps, oh I see | 15:19 |
| SK_work | meek_geek: and I'm not usign FB really :D | 15:19 |
| coderus | and again my app is too tricky for harbour :D | 15:19 |
| meek_geek | Stskeeps, Can you provide me with a link that would help me understand what all programs can I compile on Sailfish OS which is a full linux distro ? | 15:20 |
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| Stskeeps | meek_geek: gcc, make is there.. | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | a lot | 15:20 |
| coderus | meek_geek: login to build vm, sb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl -m sdk-install | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | but be aware its a qt5/wayland system | 15:20 |
| coderus | ./configure && mekr | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | not x11 | 15:21 |
| coderus | && make | 15:21 |
| meek_geek | Stskeeps, Sir I am a huge supporter of open software but the program is I cannot make people understand how Sailfish is better than rooted Android CM edition | 15:21 |
| meek_geek | coderus, but you know i thought I could just use any RPM arm7 binary package | 15:22 |
| Stskeeps | meek_geek: show and demo, make them make their own opinions | 15:22 |
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| Nicd- | meek_geek: no distro can install just any RPM or DEB | 15:22 |
| Stskeeps | some will like it- some wont | 15:22 |
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| coderus | meek_geek: you again? :D | 15:22 |
| coderus | meek_geek: you want to ask it every day? :D | 15:23 |
| SK_work | coderus: what did you expected, ~all apps are tricky for harbour | 15:23 |
| meek_geek | Nicd-, my debian can install any .deb packages from internet | 15:23 |
| SK_work | like ship a daemon + a gui, nope, you won't work | 15:23 |
| Eztran | meek_geek: sure, there's no guarantee of them working, though. | 15:23 |
| meek_geek | Stskeeps, but you call it full linux .. how is it a full linux distro and what more does it have than Android ( Rooted ) ? | 15:23 |
| meek_geek | Eztran, all of them worked yet | 15:24 |
| meek_geek | But i understand what you mean | 15:24 |
| Eztran | Pretty much every package is for Ubuntu or Debian, which are pretty similar really, or a derivative (and those usually don't change much). | 15:24 |
| Nicd- | meek_geek: all of the RPM packages I have installed in my jolla have worked so far, ergo it's the best linux ever | 15:25 |
| Stskeeps | meek_geek: the selling point isnt full linux, selling point is experience for most people | 15:25 |
| coderus | SK_work: yes this simple apps is again gui + daemon :D | 15:25 |
| Eztran | 'Full' linux often == GNU/Linux, which AFAIK Sailfish basically is, while Android isn't? (not trying to get into the naming argument) | 15:25 |
| meek_geek | Nicd-, where do you get these rpms from ? | 15:26 |
| meek_geek | Android is just a shell | 15:26 |
| Stskeeps | eating time.. | 15:26 |
| meek_geek | and everything is on VM .. Java apps | 15:26 |
| m4g0g | does somebody has inside info about share and notification api? | 15:26 |
| meek_geek | Stskeeps, sorry | 15:27 |
| m4g0g | sailfish irc client is not so bad | 15:27 |
| m4g0g | locusf, when ur app will be.in repos? | 15:28 |
| Nicd- | meek_geek: I was joking | 15:29 |
| meek_geek | Nicd-, hehe | 15:30 |
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| SK_work | m4g0g: use dbus ? | 15:33 |
| coderus | m4g0g: you can check mitakuuluu sources | 15:33 |
| coderus | its full of sailfish apis :) | 15:33 |
| SK_work | :D | 15:34 |
| m4g0g | not stable apis - you forget to say | 15:34 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: nemo plugin notifications ? | 15:34 |
| SK_work | should be stable enough | 15:34 |
| m4g0g | and with this code we cann't push app to harbour | 15:34 |
| coderus | m4g0g: notifications api is stable | 15:34 |
| coderus | share api too | 15:35 |
| m4g0g | I add share code from browser to my app and it fails rpm validation now | 15:35 |
| m4g0g | it's good for openrepos, but not for harbour | 15:36 |
| m4g0g | coderus, notifications via dbus or via mlite? | 15:36 |
| SK_work | m4g0g: mlite is not responsible of notifs is it ? | 15:37 |
| SK_work | isn't nemo plugin notifs the one responsible ? | 15:37 |
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| m4g0g | hm. I don't know about this plugin. where do you get this information? | 15:40 |
| coderus | m4g0g: mlite5 | 15:40 |
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| coderus | its allowed to harbour | 15:41 |
| m4g0g | coderus, ty | 15:41 |
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| coderus | i dont care about harbour while it so beta | 15:41 |
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| locusf | m4g0g: its already there in store | 15:47 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: ping? :) | 15:49 |
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| coderus | okay, test build of proximity-speaker: https://github.com/CODeRUS/proximity-speaker | 16:14 |
| SK_work | coderus: you code faster than light ... | 16:15 |
| fenix_fx | coderus, sorry, what is "proximity-speaker"? What do you mean? | 16:15 |
| coderus | fenix_fx: speaker switcher by proximity sensor when call is active :) | 16:16 |
| SK_work | coderus: question: why do you need privileged | 16:16 |
| SK_work | ? | 16:16 |
| stephg | coderus: cool | 16:16 |
| coderus | SK_work: no reason, just old copypaste code :D | 16:17 |
| SK_work | coderus: :) | 16:17 |
| fenix_fx | Oh, understand, it's make sense, for first seconds it use call speaker? :) | 16:18 |
| SK_work | and I wonder if your system call to hack the loudspeaker can be reflected in ui | 16:18 |
| coderus | fenix_fx: didnt tested it hard | 16:18 |
| coderus | but should switch speaker just after call state change | 16:18 |
| coderus | SK_work: you wont see it anyway :D | 16:19 |
| coderus | display will be blanked ;) | 16:19 |
| coderus | i dont care because of that | 16:19 |
| SK_work | coderus: IMO you should keep the display when in loudspeaker | 16:20 |
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| coderus | i'm not switching display | 16:20 |
| m4g0g | it will be good if somebody can implement vibration on call answer from other side as in n900 was | 16:20 |
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| coderus | it doing automatically when you cover sensor | 16:21 |
| coderus | m4g0g: its easy to to also | 16:21 |
| fenix_fx | I mean, we are accept call (=> call state but proximity tell us - use loudspeaker) before phone been near ear | 16:21 |
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| coderus | SK_work: ah i understood you wrong :) | 16:21 |
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| coderus | i can't do it until someone from jolla help us | 16:22 |
| SK_work | coderus: yep, but when on loudspeaker (ie proxy not covered), is the led for loudspeaker on, and can you control loudspeaker ? | 16:22 |
| SK_work | something to think about | 16:22 |
| SK_work | maybe more DBus signals to be found ? | 16:23 |
| coderus | SK_work: imho call ui doesnt watch to change speaker | 16:23 |
| coderus | its only controlling speaker | 16:23 |
| SK_work | coderus: :/ | 16:23 |
| SK_work | coderus: yep, so Jolla people help needed | 16:24 |
| SK_work | I see | 16:24 |
| coderus | SK_work: you can make patch for pandora and hack call ui and inject plugin for changing loudspeaker by proximity. its only way i see | 16:24 |
| coderus | fenix_fx: so< i cant understand what you mean :) | 16:25 |
| SK_work | coderus: you can make pandora patch :) | 16:25 |
| SK_work | if you hack call ui, it's fairly easy to have this loudspeaker behaviour | 16:25 |
| fenix_fx | coderus, look, we have incoming call, we accept him right? | 16:25 |
| coderus | SK_work: no i dont want to touch pandora really while i cant flash device myself | 16:26 |
| SK_work | coderus: patching apps is safe | 16:26 |
| coderus | fenix_fx: i'm rejecting most of incoming calls, but ontinue your story please :) | 16:26 |
| SK_work | since zypper in -f <package> repares everything | 16:26 |
| SK_work | patching lipstick is less safe, but the pandora thing should prevent most breakages | 16:27 |
| coderus | SK_work: its different situation. after i install pandora i'll want to do more and more patches, you know. and it will be finished by complete phone malfunction :D | 16:27 |
| SK_work | coderus: :D | 16:27 |
| SK_work | I see | 16:27 |
| SK_work | just like a drug, never touch :D | 16:27 |
| SK_work | coderus: you can still safe phone with recovery too | 16:28 |
| SK_work | not that bad | 16:28 |
| fenix_fx | coderus unexpectedly :D so, you touch screen and call accepted, phone starts check proximity, right? | 16:28 |
| SK_work | and it seems that there will not be any flasher so ... | 16:28 |
| Eztran | don't do lipstick-pandora, kids. | 16:28 |
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| Eztran | =) | 16:28 |
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| Eztran | Maybe no flasher, but the ability to set your own restore points would give you roughly the same level of safety net. | 16:29 |
| coderus | fenix_fx: RIGHT | 16:29 |
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| coderus | fenix_fx: sensor enabled when call accepted, and disabled when call disconnected | 16:32 |
| coderus | just check sources | 16:32 |
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| fenix_fx | coderus, and you app go to switch call to loudspeaker, because proximity don't see anything in near, but you planned speak with call speaker near head, just did not have time to "attach" phone to ear | 16:33 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Hi! Is there any useful testing I can do for you on the Nexus 4? I am using it daily as my only phone, with the only thing making me consider switching away being the lack of usable vibration support and the lack of Bluetooth | 16:33 |
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| dwangoAC | ..does anyone here know how to force the phone to vibrate for a lot longer when phonecalls come in? | 16:33 |
| tbr | mhhh vibration patterns, wonder where that is set | 16:34 |
| coderus | fenix_fx: so? | 16:35 |
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| coderus | anyone speak to you before you attach phone to ear? | 16:35 |
| coderus | what is your idea i can't understand? :) | 16:35 |
| dwangoAC | tbr: Right now it does a single very brief buzz and never vibrates again, and the vibration is identical for phone calls, calendar, text, and IM | 16:35 |
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| Stskeeps | dwangoAC: well, figure out how to initialize bluetooth :) | 16:36 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: What's that? | 16:36 |
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| SK_work | so the N4 image is really good now ? | 16:37 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: As in, I assume Bluetooth is just not yet done, and I'm totally willing to wait on that one | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | oh, testing | 16:37 |
| dwangoAC | SK_work: I wouldn't call it really good, in fact it's crashing on me several times a day | 16:37 |
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| dwangoAC | SK_work: But it's always the same behavior and I bet if I investigated further it's something that's already known | 16:37 |
| SK_work | ah | 16:37 |
| dwangoAC | I don't think it's truly crashed as much as the UI is just becoming unresponsive, but when I'm away from a USB port it's not easy to tell | 16:38 |
| dwangoAC | (Or away from a place I can SSH in) | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | dwangoAC: see what happens when you /system/bin/start hciattach | 16:38 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Um, OK :) | 16:38 |
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| fenix_fx | coderus, oh) call accepted => proximity check - no anything near => you app switch call to loudspeaker => you attach phone to ear (because you not Flash from Marvel) | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | and systemctl restart bluez.service if bluetooth doesn't work out of the box at that point | 16:38 |
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| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Grabbing my Bluetooth headset now, one sec | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | and check /system/bin/logcat if it doesn't | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | err, n | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | o | 16:40 |
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| Stskeeps | /usr/libexec/droid-hybris/system/bin/logcat , i think it was | 16:40 |
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| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Trying to find the right name for bluez.service | 16:43 |
| dwangoAC | (Says no such file or directory) | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | bluetooth.service or bluetoothd.service | 16:43 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Wow, /logcat is full of E/hwcomposer( 1113): prepare: layer handle is NULL | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | perfectly sort-of fine | 16:44 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Looks like it may be bluetooth.service | 16:44 |
| dwangoAC | It's happening so many times a second I can't see anything bluetooth related in /logcat | 16:45 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:45 |
| fenix_fx | you are fixing bt? :) | 16:45 |
| Stskeeps | go check and see if bluetooth works? | 16:46 |
| dwangoAC | OK, it went away when I exited the bluetooth menu and went back to the home screen | 16:46 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Not yet, bluetooth white dot is pulsing | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:46 |
| dwangoAC | E/NetlinkListener( 496): recvmsg failed (I/O error) in /logcat | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | hcitool dev | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | as root | 16:46 |
| dwangoAC | Devices: | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | empty? | 16:47 |
| dwangoAC | (That's all that it responded with) | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so wasn't -that- lucky | 16:47 |
| dwangoAC | Yep | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | you did /system/bin/start hciattac | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | you did /system/bin/start hciattach | 16:47 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: It's OK, I understand. | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | right | 16:47 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Let me do that again | 16:47 |
| dwangoAC | No difference | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | well, was worth a shot | 16:47 |
| dwangoAC | Oh, but more output in logcat | 16:47 |
| dwangoAC | This is worth a pastebin, one sec | 16:48 |
| Stskeeps | k | 16:48 |
| dwangoAC | http://codepad.org/tdeAtPpx | 16:48 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: But while I'd love to see Bluetooth work for day-today, I can live without it 0 it just means I can't make phonecalls while driving, which I do infrequently anyway. | 16:48 |
| Stskeeps | hrrm | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | yes yes, let's see.. | 16:49 |
| dwangoAC | What I'm really struggling with is the lack of vibration support on phonecalls :) | 16:49 |
| dwangoAC | That's the one I'd like to try to fix short-term, as I can never tell when people are calling me. | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | we've been digging into the notifications stuff at least | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | hcitool dev doesn't show anything atm? | 16:50 |
| dwangoAC | Cool, glad to hear it | 16:50 |
| dwangoAC | um, let me try again | 16:50 |
| dwangoAC | ]# hcitool dev | 16:50 |
| dwangoAC | Devices: | 16:50 |
| dwangoAC | [root@Jolla nemo]# | 16:50 |
| dwangoAC | That's all I get, I'm afraid | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:50 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: One other question while you are here - is there a way to get the Calendar to show entries in the correct timezone? | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 16:52 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: All calendar entries are off by many, many hours | 16:52 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: A meeting for 10:00 AM tomorrow (PST) is showing up as 8:00 PM tonight | 16:52 |
| SK_work | dwangoAC: checked your timezone (the one set in phone) | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | dwangoAC: wonder if that happens on jolla device too | 16:53 |
| dwangoAC | SK_work: Settings - Time and date is using Automatic update and has the time zone set to United States, Los Angeles (Which would be PST) | 16:53 |
| dwangoAC | SK_work: Is there something else I should look at? | 16:53 |
| SK_work | dwangoAC: well, nowhere else | 16:54 |
| Stskeeps | dwangoAC: where are they synchronised from? | 16:54 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: You mean from automatic sync? I assume the cell tower | 16:54 |
| Stskeeps | nono | 16:54 |
| Stskeeps | the calendar items | 16:54 |
| dwangoAC | Which would be Pacific Standard Time here in California | 16:54 |
| dwangoAC | Oh, Google | 16:54 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:54 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: I should also confess to adding two Google accounts, one with my home content and another with my work content | 16:55 |
| Stskeeps | should still work.. | 16:55 |
| dwangoAC | Seems to have handled the calendar entries themselves OK, and the offset is consistent | 16:55 |
| dwangoAC | Meetings are shown 14 hours ahead of when they should be, consistently | 16:56 |
| dwangoAC | And 14 is an odd number for it to be ahead, I would have assumed 8 hour offset due to getting UTC wrong | 16:56 |
| dwangoAC | Or GMT | 16:56 |
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| dwangoAC | So what controls how long the phone vibrates? | 16:57 |
| dwangoAC | Is it something I could hardcode / hack to be longer? | 16:58 |
| dwangoAC | I rely on the phone not making noises at work, so I really need it to let me know when a phonecall comes in and vibrate for longer than a fraction of a second like it does now | 16:58 |
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| Stskeeps | i think it may be connected to the other feedback problems we have | 16:59 |
| Stskeeps | i'll prod the others but it's way beyond done with work now :) | 16:59 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Ah, of course, you're in one of those timezones that's going to bed as I'm going to work :) | 17:00 |
| satmd | hello | 17:00 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: No worries, I completely understand. I might be asking for features to work sooner rather than later but I can still say it's usable enough to use every day as my primary phone. | 17:00 |
| SK_work | hello satmd | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | dwangoAC: well, 7pm, so, beer time rather than sleep .. ;) | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | but yes | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | primary device is what matters the msot | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | when you're at primary device, you can talk about more features | 17:01 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Wife time, or whatever it may be :) | 17:01 |
| stephg | just something I noticed yesterday, and before I forget | 17:01 |
| stephg | can someone enable the frame rate thingy on an N4 and then launch the calendar | 17:01 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: I'm using it as my primary device but others wouldn't be able to just yet, I suspect | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | calendar is notoriously bad in this regard | 17:02 |
| dwangoAC | It's very close though | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | stephg: got your n4 at hand? | 17:02 |
| dwangoAC | stephg: Frame rate? | 17:02 |
| dwangoAC | stephg: I'll gladly do it if you can tell me hwo | 17:02 |
| stephg | calendar seems to be resource hungry anyway but it seemed to be a load hungier yest than it is on my jolla today | 17:02 |
| dwangoAC | *how | 17:02 |
| stephg | frame rate, yeah | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | dwangoAC: yeah.. there's so much that is easier when you're 'just' doing a port to a device of a production OS | 17:02 |
| stephg | my n4 is at home, I'm not | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | ah, ok | 17:02 |
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| stephg | settings> dev tools> detailed frame rate at the bottom | 17:02 |
| dwangoAC | stephg: I have my N4 with a shell open to it right now | 17:02 |
| stephg | then launch the calendar | 17:03 |
| dwangoAC | k | 17:03 |
| stephg | may be completely anecdotal | 17:03 |
| stephg | but an awful lot of red in the top display, even after it's started is what I remember | 17:03 |
| stephg | 1 sample obvs not alot... | 17:03 |
| dwangoAC | Still trying to get into Developer mode | 17:04 |
| dwangoAC | Takes a long time / big delay | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 17:04 |
| stephg | that's the settings bug I believe? | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | it's probably sanerish on next releases | 17:04 |
| dwangoAC | stephg: Lots of red at the top, very little at the bottom | 17:04 |
| stephg | actually jolla-calendar seems pretty bonkers on my jolla right now. Solid red :/ | 17:05 |
| stephg | have you got FB integration? or google or something that would fill the calendar up? | 17:05 |
| dwangoAC | stephg: Not solid red, just lots of red lines | 17:05 |
| dwangoAC | stephg: No FB | 17:05 |
| dwangoAC | stephg: Just Google | 17:05 |
| dwangoAC | stephg: Two Google accounts with several different calendars, actually | 17:05 |
| dwangoAC | Going to "Today" view reduces red lines at top | 17:06 |
| dwangoAC | Manage calendar has no red at top | 17:06 |
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| dwangoAC | Hmm... when I am on the homescreen I see a fair bit of activity on the web tab, interesting | 17:07 |
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| stephg | the calendar does seem (to me) to do odd things | 17:08 |
| stephg | http://imgur.com/7L0Ua5m | 17:09 |
| stephg | and as soon as I took that with dbus it instantly recovered | 17:09 |
| stephg | on a Jolla | 17:09 |
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| cos- | nice pixel grahics theme | 17:14 |
| stephg | they're pebbles actually | 17:14 |
| dwangoAC | stephg: That's far worse than mine | 17:18 |
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| Umeaboy | sledges: Are you here? | 19:08 |
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| sledges | yep | 19:08 |
| sledges | o/ | 19:08 |
| Umeaboy | Latest news about i9305 when it comes to Sailfish? | 19:09 |
| sledges | soon | 19:09 |
| sledges | but thanks for asking | 19:09 |
| sledges | :) | 19:09 |
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| RzR | http://interviews-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/05/05/2012218/richard-stallman-answers-your-questions# | 19:15 |
| RzR | many mobile related thought | 19:15 |
| RzR | from a non mobile user :) | 19:16 |
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| Umeaboy | sledges: I mean.......it's been almost a month since I asked. :) | 19:42 |
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| fzk | Umeaboy: i doubt it will come any faster because people keep asking | 19:55 |
| fzk | it will come when it is ready, as everything else | 19:55 |
| Umeaboy | fzk: Yes, but I volonteered to become a tester of Sailfish. Never got any Beta-image. | 19:57 |
| Umeaboy | I use Nightly version of CM so I know what to expect. | 19:57 |
| Umeaboy | There are key-functions that I care about and thoose I don't. | 19:57 |
| fzk | i have not received any for i9305 either | 19:58 |
| fzk | trying to fix it on my n9 instead for time being | 19:59 |
| Umeaboy | OK. | 19:59 |
| Umeaboy | fzk: Since Sailfish would be able to install on any arch in the future I think I'm going to port it to my future TV as well. :) | 20:00 |
| Umeaboy | Just because you lack of a touch-screen doesn't mean that you can't do everything else. | 20:01 |
| meek_geek | hi | 20:01 |
| Eztran | lacking a touchscreen is pretty important on a gesture-oriented mobile OS, surely? | 20:01 |
| fzk | you need the qt5 or? | 20:01 |
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| Umeaboy | Eztran: Not really. All it takes is something that would move the screen up and down with a cursor. | 20:08 |
| Umeaboy | Look at the Android-based devices. | 20:09 |
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| Eztran | Android's considerably less gesture-heavy. | 20:16 |
| Eztran | I'm not saying it'd be unusable or anything, but probably trickier to navigate? | 20:17 |
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| fzk | also, any arch!=any hw | 20:22 |
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| Eztran | Drivers would of course be a huge pain, unless we're talking an Android smart TV or something. | 20:25 |
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| lluixhi | Hello, if I wanted to try out sailfishos on the Samsung Galaxy SIII GT-i9305, where could I get an image? | 20:31 |
| fzk | youll have to wait, early adopters get it first..? | 20:33 |
| fzk | Eztran: sure, the linux kernel has a ton of support for hw, but i suspect the tv-market is as you say, undocumented and not very well reverse-enginered | 20:34 |
| lluixhi | Ah, okay. Is there any way to become and early adopter? | 20:34 |
| Nicd- | lluixhi: /msg sledges with your email, devices and why you want to be an ea | 20:34 |
| fzk | i think someone involved with the dev of sailfish could give info on that | 20:34 |
| fzk | ^ ah, there | 20:34 |
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| Umeaboy | lluixhi: I have that phone as well. :) | 20:39 |
| Umeaboy | Are you running CM nightly on it? | 20:39 |
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| Umeaboy | fzk: Well, I have shell access to my TV. | 20:41 |
| Umeaboy | Even thou it's quite old. | 20:41 |
| Umeaboy | :) | 20:41 |
| lluixhi | Umeaboy: I was running the CM Nightly on it, and I'm now using an unofficial version of Slimkat | 20:41 |
| Umeaboy | Just looking for a replacement OS for it. | 20:41 |
| fzk | Umeaboy: i have serial access to mine | 20:41 |
| fzk | and it runs linux | 20:41 |
| Umeaboy | fzk: Same here. ;) | 20:41 |
| Umeaboy | And Linux is just the kernel. | 20:41 |
| fzk | i never said anything about userland | 20:42 |
| Umeaboy | I'm looking to replace the RELEASE-binary to make the system support more codecs. | 20:42 |
| Umeaboy | To delete functions that I don't need. | 20:42 |
| fzk | some tvs actually have custom firmwares for that | 20:42 |
| Umeaboy | fzk: Yes, but currently mine is just a wrapper around the RELEASE-binary. | 20:43 |
| fzk | but i doubt its actively developed, they should standardize tv hw | 20:43 |
| fzk | Umeaboy: well, that would make it less hazzle | 20:43 |
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| fzk | my solution to that was to run all my media on my boxeebox+xbmc(even if i dont like xbmc much) | 20:44 |
| fzk | works fairly well tbh | 20:44 |
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| fzk | is there any foss tv available? | 20:45 |
| Umeaboy | Yes, of course, but my goal isn't to have MORE devices in my home. The goal is to do what I like with the once that I already have. | 20:47 |
| Umeaboy | To buy something more is the last solution for me and then I'd buy a new TV. | 20:47 |
| Umeaboy | I'm looking on one right now. | 20:47 |
| Umeaboy | Thou it lacks of a mod right now. | 20:47 |
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| keithzg | I honestly have been just using a raspberry pi for XBMC, since I'm launching and controlling via a remote the GUI sluggishness isn't an issue at all . . . if you have ANY spare hardware around your house, it likely will work fine as an XBMC box. Which I personally find waaaay better than any (hacked or stock) Smart TV UI/UX. | 21:06 |
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