Thursday, 2014-05-08

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Juubahmm, after installing mitakuuluu2, battery comsumption has risen..05:31
Juubalose 50% overnight05:31
Juubathat or the ampiaiskala05:31
Juubaand i dont see ampiaiskala in the running processes05:31
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m4g0ggood morning.06:37
m4g0gI have created rpm package for custom library and deploy it emulator. How I can deploy it to engine?06:38
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m4g0gbut06:39
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m4g0gbecause I can't build project with this library06:40
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coderusm4g0g: login to build vm and install it to your target in sb207:00
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m4g0gcoderus: can you describe ur words? I build rpm packages (4) for armv7hl. Then I should copy devel package to build vm and install it?07:18
coderusm4g0g: build vm mount your home folder to shared, you didnt notice that?07:23
m4g0gI alway forget about this07:23
coderus:)07:24
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coderusso, login to build vm, sb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl -m sdk-install and install your package07:26
JuubaMay 08 10:28:16 juubanjolla dbus-daemon[971]: Activating service name='com.google.code.AccountsSSO.SingleSignOn'07:29
JuubaMay 08 10:28:16 juubanjolla msyncd[1024]: [W] Buteo::ProfileManagerPrivate::parseFile:1105 - Profile file not found: "/home/nemo/.cache/msyncd/storage/hsms.xml"07:29
Juubais this something I need to worry about ?07:29
Juubathat error pops up every now and then on my journalctl07:29
m4g0gcoderus: is there any documentation about this?07:29
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m4g0gI have wrote sb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl -m sdk-install and got [SB2 sdk-install SailfishOS-armv7hl] I have no name!@SailfishSDK ~ $07:31
m4g0gbut this is read only fs and I can't install rpm package07:31
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coderusm4g0g: i can install packages with no problem07:40
coderuszypper in package.rpm07:40
coderusah ,you need sb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl -m sdk-install -R to gain root access07:41
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m4g0gsee tbr in #sailfishos for guidelines on getting stuff accepted in here.11:53
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lbtm4g0g: chum ?12:02
m4g0gyes12:02
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m4g0gI try to add kqoauth to sailfish and coderus have told me to use odb and ask somebody from here to verify package. But I can't add sources to my package on obs12:03
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m4g0glbt: what type of build targets I should select in obs?12:12
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lbtm4g0g:  sailfishos:latest12:15
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lbtyou'd typically build with that in your home area12:16
m4g0glibkqoauth-qt5 unresolvable unresolvable12:16
lbtthen submit to chum:<latest version>:testing12:16
lbtgive me a link12:16
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m4g0ghttps://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=home%3AMagog12:17
m4g0git's very complex ( but I should do it12:17
lbtit is a bit harder than it needs to be, yes12:17
lbtwe're updating OBS 'RSN'12:17
lbtshould help12:17
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m4g0gnothing provides pkgconfig(Qt5Core), nothing provides pkgconfig(Qt5Network), nothing provides rpm, nothing provides binutils, nothing provides gcc, nothing provides glibc, nothing provides rpm-build, nothing provides libtool12:18
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lbtlook now...12:18
lbtthe problem (and it's an OBS issue, not you) was that the wrong scheduler was being used12:19
lbtit needs armv8el12:19
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m4g0ghow I can detect why it havent't built successfully? It built successfully locally in mer vm12:23
lbtclick on 'failed'12:24
lbtread the log carefully, not just the last couple of lines :)12:25
lbthmm - it's the %qtc_qmake5 macro12:26
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m4g0gwhen I see nemomobile libraries - they have other macro, but with that macro I can't buildproject locally12:27
lbtit's an SDK macro12:27
m4g0ghm12:27
m4g0gI try12:27
lbtI forget where it's set now - I thought it worked on OBS - jake9xx? ^^12:28
jake9xxit's put to the spec when specify is run12:28
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lbthttps://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=_service%3Atar_git%3AkQOAuth.spec&package=libkqoauth-qt5&project=home%3AMagog&rev=5bf5d90096929a257d9194f110cabf1212:29
lbtdoesn't have it12:29
lbtshould look like : http://pastie.org/915554012:30
lbtjake9xx: ty - I wasn't sure if it should be in rpmbuild ... it's been a while :)12:30
jake9xx%{!?qtc_qmake:%define qtc_qmake %qmake}12:31
jake9xx%{!?qtc_qmake5:%define qtc_qmake5 %qmake5}12:31
jake9xx%{!?qtc_make:%define qtc_make make}12:31
jake9xx%{?qtc_builddir:%define _builddir %qtc_builddir}12:31
jake9xxamend those into your spec and you should be good to go12:31
jake9xxit's rpmbuild or mb2.. don't remember either :)12:32
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m4g0gfailed (12:33
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jake9xxlog?12:34
m4g0gi know problem12:35
m4g0gone more attempt12:35
m4g0gProject ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: gui12:36
m4g0gand what I should do with this?12:36
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coderusm4g0g: add proper depends?12:41
m4g0gbut it doesn't use gui12:43
m4g0gRequires: QtCore QtNetwork12:43
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m4g0gsailfish_latest_armv7hl  succeeded12:59
m4g0gYep!13:00
m4g0gI have done it!13:00
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m4g0glbt: how I can submit it?13:02
m4g0gI set "To target project:" to chum:testing in submit form and got: Unable to submit: chum:testing13:03
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m4g0gI have done it too13:07
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merlin1991m4g0g: it's sailfishos:chum:1.0.5.16:testing13:31
merlin1991oops, I just saw you sent it already13:31
merlin1991tbr: what happened to moving the 1.0.4.20 packages to 1.0.5.16?13:33
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m4g0gguys, there is13:36
m4g0ghttp://codepad.org/8yaIKQdK13:36
m4g0gbut when I set BuildRequires:  pkgconfig(KQOAuth) i got No provider of 'pkgconfig(KQOAuth)' found.13:37
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meek_geekis sailfish gui non-free ?15:03
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netzviehmeek_geek: mostly yes. for more information have a look at the logs from last community meeting: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-05-06-10.00.log.html15:05
netzviehthere was a discussion about this15:05
netzviehunder the roadmap topic15:06
netzvieh(I think)15:06
meek_geeknon-free ?15:06
meek_geekew15:06
meek_geekI had all my faith in sailfish15:06
meek_geek:[15:06
netzviehmeek_geek: have a look at the logs, they explain it rather good, why it's not open yet15:07
netzviehJolla is trying to get it open sometime in the future15:07
meek_geeknetzvieh, you explain me in nutshell15:07
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netzviehmeek_geek: too many parties who have a word in this, so jolla can't just go and open source it15:08
meek_geeknetzvieh, I see, so jolla does not control the OS its capitalists behind the scene who does right ?15:09
netzviehnope.15:09
stephgmeek_geek: it's also worth remembering that everything underpins Silica *is* open15:09
netzviehthat's why you should read the logs :)15:09
netzviehmeek_geek: basically starts there: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-05-06-10.00.log.html#l-24115:11
chem|stmeek_geek: bluntly spoken - it is pretty open just not open source15:11
meek_geek:[15:12
* meek_geek iSupported Jolla15:12
chem|stlots of stuff is open on the device, reading - you may alter it, but not redistribute (yet, like the patches sfiet does - patching is fine)15:13
chem|stand there is good reason to not open-source everything, but the reason15:14
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lbtmeek_geek: Rome was not built in a day. There's a nice summary at the end of the LWN article which covered my talk at ELC last week: https://lwn.net/Articles/597560/15:17
netzviehlbt: please generate a link for nonsubscribers :)15:18
lbtnetzvieh: no - subscribe or wait a week :D15:18
lbtLWN needs funding too :)15:18
netzviehlbt: yeah ik, but if you want people to understand your position, you can't give them something they have to pay first ;)15:18
lbtactually I think that is strongly related to my position ...15:19
lbtthink about it15:19
lbtOSS is libre, not gratis15:19
netzviehthere we are at the stallman discussion :D and I'm a subscriber btw ;)15:20
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netzviehjust not always logged in15:21
lbtgood - I think a lot of people are ... and afaiui stallman is pro-libre and pro-$$$15:21
lbtbut he accepts less compromises - which is why I also am an FSF member ... but not always an FSF activist15:21
lbtwhat Jolla and Mer are doing is allowing work on the "GNU/linux on mobile platforms" to procede without stalling whilst the openhardware/driver people work on deliveries15:22
lbtas soon as there's open hw, Mer/hybris will jump right on top .. with a fully working stack15:23
lbtmeanwhile Jolla's business massively supports these open projects15:23
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meek_geekcybette, omg your a cute girly :]15:27
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* lbt hits 'stop' on his pre-pubescent-geek detector15:30
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meek_geeklbt, What the heck is that ?15:30
lbtit's complicated - it was pointing at you though15:31
stephgheh15:31
meek_geeklbt, Oh I could relate that15:32
* lbt thinks he'd better wander off and do some work .... o/15:32
meek_geekoh15:32
meek_geekiekku_, HI15:33
iekku_ahoy15:33
meek_geekhow do you do ma'am ?15:33
iekku_:D15:33
iekku_just fine, thank you15:33
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meek_geekiekku_, no thank you .. for this OS and your support and contribution15:34
iekku_:)15:34
meek_geeksorry to bug15:34
meek_geekWhat r u doing?15:34
iekku_working15:34
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meek_geekiekku, ok :] carry on .. I wanted ask a lot of questions though15:36
iekkumeek_geek, some other time if my answers are needed15:37
meek_geekiekku, oh I see but i m running outta time :]15:38
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iekkumeek_geek, maybe there's someone else who can answer, i trust on our community members15:39
meek_geekiekku, ok ma'am :] honour talkin 2 u15:40
netzviehlbt: was the talk recorded?15:40
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lbtnetzvieh: yes, may have been audio only though15:43
lbtLF messed up a bit but there was some ad-hoc videoing happening15:43
netzviehokay :), website says May 16 for recordings to be online15:45
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lbtah - nice. Hadn't seen that15:47
lbthttps://github.com/lbt/android_bionic/commits/hybris-10.115:48
lbtoops - wrong window15:49
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Sfiet_Konstantinhi iekku :)16:35
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Turskiideas why my app doesn't close on ctrl-c?16:51
Turski(i think i've heard the answer before, but can't remember)16:52
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alboeTurski: You could try to suspend the app with ctrl-z, find it process-id with "ps aux | grep NAMEOFTHEAPP" (the id is in de 2nd column) and kill it by using "kill PROCESSIDOFAPP"18:10
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alboeIf that doesn't work try "kill -9 PROCESSIDOFAPP"18:10
alboeWhich is not acutally an answer to your question18:11
alboebut a workaround18:11
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meek_geekhi18:14
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Turskialboe: i know how to kill a process, and i want my app to close on ctrl+c18:22
Turskialboe: and btw, pkill NAMEOFTHEAPP is way easier than looking for pid and then killing it with kill18:22
Turskiand even if you just want to use kill, the ps aux | grep foo part is way overcomplicated too18:24
Turskithere's tools like pidof and pgrep18:24
alboeTurski: Tried to help out of context here. I usually use pgrep myself, but I chose this explanation, to give a bit of insight. Anyway you know your cli quite enough, so: NEXT18:29
Turskinow yeah, i've been using linux for about 9 years18:30
Turski-now18:30
alboeYes, but I couldn't know that upfront.18:31
Turskinow you know18:31
Turskii just want my app to die on ctrl+c so my script would work perfectly18:32
Turskievery other app seems to die correctly18:33
Turskii think it was something that was resolved by splitting pages to seperate files or something like that...18:34
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alboeok, can't help on that one.18:36
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alboeOn a different topic: Is there a chance that Sailfish OS on the nexus 4 can use it's LTE capability? Can it use the hybrid modem that is used like here: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/easily-flash-a-hybrid-modem-to-gain-4g-lte-connectivity-on-your-nexus-4-without-a-pc/18:37
alboe?18:37
Stskeepsmmmm i'd say possibly but may be hybrid radios dont work with our setup18:40
alboeok, was just wondering. This would be a nice extra later on, but by no means important atm18:42
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slatealboe: Nexus 4 LTE is for US18:55
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alboeUS only? Does it only support their LTE frequencies?18:56
slateye, band 418:56
alboeoic18:56
alboeGood to know. Have it since a couple of days only. Thx18:57
Stskeepsugh, no testing for me then18:57
slatetest you can18:58
slatebut wont work :)18:58
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Turskihttp://turski.dy.fi/foo/powerlog.jpg19:19
Turskithere's a log of 7 days19:19
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DeeGeeSo how locked in is device using libhybris to certain driver/kernel version combination? Pandora's sucessor is probably going to be OMAP5 based, because all other chipset would require libhybris + android drivers.19:36
DeeGeehttp://boards.openpandora.org/topic/15560-soc-back-and-forth/page-4519:36
Stskeepsbasically: if you have a working android hw adaptation for it, which is typically a driver+kernel combo, then libhybris practically just uses hwcomposer and EGL/GLESv219:37
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Stskeepsbecause that's what a given ODM delivers with it and is stable19:38
Stskeepsthis may not necessarily apply to custom hw, though19:38
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Stskeepsremember that libhybris just is a way to leverage an android hardware adaptation19:39
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Stskeepslibhybris doesn't particularly care about kernel version :)19:40
Stskeepsand X11 based BSPs with working GLESv2 is getting more and more rare19:41
Stskeepsif i was to make a pandora device; i'd simply make a device that focuses on the good gaming experience, forget about the kernel version.. :P19:42
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Stskeepsbecause with sufficiently mobile like devices, you're simply stuck with a certain kernel and the manpower needed to really upgrade is obscene19:43
Stskeepswhich you could better use to make new product; or better experience on what you hav19:43
Stskeepse19:43
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flywheelGiving the IRC client for SailfishOS a spin - it actually seems quite good.23:10
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