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| ryukafalz | So IIRC the unified messaging system is based on Telepathy... but are audio calls integrated into that? So for example if I had a SIP account with telepathy-rakia and I got a call, would the phone ring like it would for a PSTN call? | 01:52 |
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| special | yes, phone calls do go through telepathy | 01:52 |
| special | there are a few small pieces probably missing from SIP support, but for the most part it can share the architecture | 01:52 |
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| ryukafalz | Ahh, cool. Do you know if that's the case in upstream Nemo as well or if it's a Sailfish-specific thing? | 01:53 |
| special | nemo as well | 01:53 |
| ryukafalz | \o/ | 01:53 |
| ryukafalz | Thanks for the info | 01:53 |
| ryukafalz | I don't suppose it supports video calls at all right? XD | 01:53 |
| special | https://github.com/nemomobile/voicecall is the mw component handling most of the call/telepathy logic | 01:53 |
| special | telepathy itself does, nothing on our end yet | 01:53 |
| special | the only proprietary part is voicecall-ui-jolla, which sits under voicecall-manager from that repository | 01:54 |
| special | there is a reference UI as well, no idea what state it's in.. I think it's been awhile since anyone cared | 01:54 |
| special | https://github.com/nemomobile/voicecall-ui-reference | 01:55 |
| ryukafalz | I'm guessing the reference UI is being replaced by glacier stuff then? | 01:55 |
| special | theoretically, but from what I know the glacier work is a long way from that | 01:56 |
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| ryukafalz | Also, re: video calling support... one of the kde-telepathy devs is working on porting QtGstreamer to GStreamer 1.0 | 01:59 |
| ryukafalz | which I'd imagine would be necessary for any video calling here | 02:00 |
| special | mmm | 02:01 |
| special | not entirely | 02:01 |
| ryukafalz | no? | 02:01 |
| special | qtmultimedia uses gstreamer as well, and you can tweak it into whatever you need | 02:01 |
| special | the sailfish video player and camera are both using that | 02:01 |
| ryukafalz | oh, huh | 02:02 |
| ryukafalz | it uses gstreamer directly rather than through qtgstreamer? | 02:02 |
| special | yes | 02:02 |
| ryukafalz | interesting | 02:03 |
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| * ryukafalz doesn't really know all that much about the qt libraries | 02:05 | |
| special | I think qtgstreamer is a third party set of pretty much 1:1 bindings | 02:06 |
| ryukafalz | yeah | 02:06 |
| special | qtmultimedia is the "official" qt-project solution, higher level API and cross-platform | 02:06 |
| ryukafalz | it looks like qtmultimedia is a much more high-level api | 02:06 |
| special | on linux gstreamer is the backend | 02:06 |
| ryukafalz | I wonder why ktp used qtgstreamer rather than that | 02:07 |
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| chriadam | qtmultimedia didn't have a maintainer for a long time, which is probably why | 02:07 |
| special | it also does take some effort to get it working with less standard pipelines | 02:07 |
| chriadam | eg, michael goddard was listed as the maintainer for about 18 months after he started working for google ;-) | 02:07 |
| ryukafalz | Hmm I really need to learn QML when I have more time | 02:10 |
| ryukafalz | Oh, that's another thing... would I be correct in thinking that you'd need to pretty heavily modify the QML for an app when porting from Harmattan -> Nemo/Sailfish or from Sailfish to Nemo? | 02:11 |
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| chriadam | somewhat heavily. note that sailfish to nemo (and vice versa) should be much less effort, imo (more shared libraries, eg nemo-qml-plugin-* etc) | 02:14 |
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| ryukafalz | I could see Nemo to Sailfish being pretty easy, but aren't the Sailfish QML components proprietary? | 02:16 |
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| chriadam | ryukafalz: oops, sorry for late reply. yes, but not all of the things being developed went into Sailfish per se. a lot of things went into nemo imports/plugins, especially a lot of non-ui stuff. | 04:03 |
| ryukafalz | Oh cool, gotta love upstream contribution :) | 04:05 |
| chriadam | yep :-) | 04:06 |
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| situ | Morpog_PC: The problem I was facing with network connection on Sailfish Emulator was because address resolution was not working. I fixed it by running vboxmanage modifyvm "machine_name" --natdnshostresolver1 on | 05:55 |
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| Morpog_PC | strange though | 06:33 |
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| Nullbyte | Hi, I was told I could sign up for the early adopter list if I made a bit of noise on this channel! :P | 07:34 |
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| Stskeeps | not good enough noise | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:34 |
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| Nullbyte | Is that enough? :D | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | hehe perhaps | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | send sledges a /msg with your e-mail and what devices you have | 07:38 |
| gobbe | :) | 07:40 |
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| Nicd- | Stskeeps: is 278 MB of RAM too little for Sailfish? | 07:41 |
| Nullbyte | I sent Sledges a msg :) | 07:42 |
| Nicd- | wondering if I can get any use out of my wife's old Galaxy Gio :P | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | Nicd-: perhaps a bit low but hey, let's see.. | 07:42 |
| Nicd- | it supposedly does run CM 10.1 and Android 4.2.2 | 07:42 |
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| Dev-aux | Would be cool if it runs on the Desire Z :) | 07:49 |
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| Nullbyte | Indeed | 07:50 |
| Dev-aux | IMHO there is the same SoC in Desire S as in Desire Z | 07:51 |
| Nicd- | s/imho/afaik/? | 07:53 |
| Dev-aux | Yes | 07:53 |
| Dev-aux | thx :) | 07:53 |
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| walokra | hmm, if device can run cm 10.1 could it run sailfishos? like htc sensation? | 10:10 |
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| Armadillo | hi | 11:39 |
| Armadillo | is it possible to remove not used app drafts from the harbour webinterface? | 11:40 |
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| Armadillo | I have one which has been created because of a browser crash and I haven't used it, because I'm working with the other one which I'm updating every week | 11:40 |
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| kontio | Armadillo: no currently not possible | 11:57 |
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| Armadillo | kontio thx | 12:09 |
| ln- | thx is a registered trademark of lucasfilm | 12:10 |
| kontio | hehe | 12:11 |
| Acce | are the lawyers already dispatched to Armadillo's location? | 12:11 |
| ln- | probably | 12:12 |
| Armadillo | oh no, not again :-/ | 12:12 |
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| m4g0g | how I can open nonmobile web pasge from sailfishbrowser? | 13:10 |
| Nicd- | what do you mean? | 13:12 |
| m4g0g | I mean how I can see full webpages via sailfishbrowser? | 13:17 |
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| Nicd- | m4g0g: do you mean sites offer you mobile pages? | 13:19 |
| m4g0g | yes | 13:20 |
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| jake9xx | coderus: nevermind, it was bug elsewhere | 15:48 |
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| Alittlemurkling | Anyone else excited for Sailfish on android devices? :D | 17:51 |
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| Stskeeps | Alittlemurkling: less than when i prepared the demo ;) | 17:52 |
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| Alittlemurkling | Stskeeps: Nice. What do you have it running on? | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | so we'll be rolling it out to nexus 4 and sgs iii lte initially, plus guides on how to do the porting; first to early adopters and then to users a longer while after | 17:53 |
| Alittlemurkling | Oh, only the lte version of the s3? I was hoping to have it ported to my tmo s3... | 17:54 |
| Alittlemurkling | I'm a programmer though, so I would be happy to do the porting myself. | 17:55 |
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| Alittlemurkling | When are the porting guides due to go up? Also where. | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | when ready and probably sailfishos.org | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | Alittlemurkling: tmo s3 is still a exynos? | 17:57 |
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| Stskeeps | ie a i9300 | 17:57 |
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| Alittlemurkling | Yep. But it doesn't have lte capability. | 17:58 |
| ryukafalz | Very excited :D | 17:58 |
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| ryukafalz | I won't be getting an N4 probably until after may though... | 17:59 |
| ryukafalz | Stskeeps: Is there a deadline for early adopter stuff or would I be able to join after it's been rolled out to them? In case it's not out for everyone by then. | 17:59 |
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| Stskeeps | hopefully something saner is there by may | 18:01 |
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| Alittlemurkling | Stskeeps: Oh wait, only the international version has an exynos. The US versions use a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 MSM8960. | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | what ixxxx is that | 18:02 |
| Alittlemurkling | They don't use that naming convention. This is a SGH-T999. | 18:03 |
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| Stskeeps | d2tmo | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | looks like you could probably put it on there | 18:04 |
| jussi | Stskeeps: itll go on the i9300 ? | 18:04 |
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| Stskeeps | jussi: i9305 is what we're focusing on atm but i9300 is probably possible with fair ease | 18:05 |
| Alittlemurkling | Stskeeps: Yeah, that's usually how I identify the android roms I currently flash on here. | 18:06 |
| jussi | Stskeeps: ahh ok, Ive i9300, so might be worth using that. Itlll be down to asking the wife which she prefers to use :D | 18:06 |
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| Alittlemurkling | Will I have to wait until the android device images are released to attempt to port, or is there a way I could start now? | 18:08 |
| Stskeeps | give us a bit | 18:09 |
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| Alittlemurkling | Okay... Sorry to bother you. | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | ah, you're not bothering :) | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | send sledges a msg with your e-mail indicating your devices | 18:11 |
| Stskeeps | and that you're technical | 18:11 |
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| ryukafalz | there's also #nemomobile-porters, though that seems to be mostly porting to N9 and the like | 18:15 |
| Alittlemurkling | I've bothered him before when trying to deciper the nemo mobile porting guide. Thanks | 18:15 |
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| m4g0g | hello developers | 18:23 |
| m4g0g | I want to implement notifications via mlite | 18:23 |
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| m4g0g | can somebody help me with it? Examples? Experience with this library? | 18:24 |
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| AL13N_jolla | damn mer-tools doesn't have gdisk or parted | 18:36 |
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| AL13N_jolla | fdisk, sfdisk, cfdisk ... but not gdisk... | 18:42 |
| * tbr gives AL13N_jolla a cookie | 18:43 | |
| AL13N_jolla | thanks | 18:43 |
| AL13N_jolla | well that just means someone needs to add it | 18:44 |
| tbr | I see parted in mer-tools on obs | 18:44 |
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| tbr | AL13N_jolla: Available parted-3.0-1.1.1.armv7hl The GNU disk partition manipulation program | 18:46 |
| AL13N_jolla | hmm i did ssu lr and pkcon refresh | 18:47 |
| * AL13N_jolla goes to debug | 18:47 | |
| tbr | I did "pkcon search name parted" | 18:48 |
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| AL13N_jolla | pkcon repo-list only shows apps jolla hotfixes | 18:49 |
| AL13N_jolla | that's not good | 18:50 |
| AL13N_jolla | tbr: what does yours show? | 18:50 |
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| kimmoli | parted is in mer-tools | 18:51 |
| AL13N_jolla | ssu lr shows normal, but pkcon repo-list shows only 3 | 18:52 |
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| AL13N_jolla | device registration shows not registered, but that was normal, right? | 18:54 |
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| AL13N_jolla | ssu er mer-tools fixed all the other repos too | 18:55 |
| AL13N_jolla | thanks guys! | 18:56 |
| kimmoli | (i need ssu ur after ssu ar) | 18:56 |
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| AL13N_jolla | i had tried ur before | 18:57 |
| AL13N_jolla | anyway, this explains my buildchroot issues | 18:58 |
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| AL13N_jolla | gtg, bbiab | 18:58 |
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| kimmoli | oo, emacs-nox, the only editor i know how to exit from | 19:06 |
| bencoh | :] | 19:07 |
| tbr | I've been using vim for years, mostly because I don't know how to quit. ;) | 19:07 |
| tbr | (Esc :q - yeahyeah, still makes for a good joke) | 19:07 |
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| AL13N | hmm, i hope this is normal, parted /dev/mmcblk0 print all says that primary and backup is corrupt | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | AL13N: sure it supports GPT? | 19:18 |
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| AL13N | no, was gonna check | 19:18 |
| AL13N | "Error: Both the primary and backup GPT tables are corrupt." <-- looks like it though | 19:19 |
| AL13N | anyone else wanna do a "parted /dev/mmcblk0 print" ? | 19:19 |
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| AL13N | i'm just hoping this is normal somehow, or i've fucked up my mmc | 19:20 |
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| AL13N | fdisk still says it's a GPT partition table though | 19:23 |
| kimmoli | just poking around... can't get all dependencies for qt5-qtgui-devel ... QT -= gui then i can build my simple QtCreator project in phone (cli app) | 19:28 |
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| AL13N | i checked manually with hexdump... it looks like the partition header looks good | 19:34 |
| AL13N | 28 entries | 19:34 |
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| AL13N | first partition is 1MB | 19:36 |
| AL13N | name emgdload | 19:37 |
| AL13N | ok, i think parted is wrong | 19:38 |
| AL13N | the partition table looks good to me | 19:38 |
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| AL13N | odd, http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-tools/parted.git;a=summary <-- no commits in mer | 19:42 |
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| AL13N | grr | 19:42 |
| AL13N | maybe still in the old one, unsynced yet | 19:43 |
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| antoniolatiano | Hello to all | 19:45 |
| kengu | hello | 19:45 |
| antoniolatiano | does anyone know when the beta testing will starts? | 19:46 |
| tbr | of what? | 19:47 |
| AL13N | ? | 19:48 |
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| antoniolatiano | the nexus 4 sailfish os beta testing | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | antoniolatiano: sign up with a message to sledges with your e-mail | 19:49 |
| tbr | talk to sledges, be prepared to help improving the image, report bugs, fix bugs. | 19:49 |
| AL13N | tbr: btw: is it Sage that does the git stuff? or was that lbt or thp? arg, i'm bad with names | 19:50 |
| tbr | AL13N: git stuff of what? | 19:50 |
| AL13N | i can't find the old/new gits | 19:50 |
| tbr | github nemo | 19:50 |
| AL13N | tbr: ah, no, i mean the mer ones | 19:50 |
| AL13N | or maybe it all goes to nemo | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | mer-tools is lbt | 19:51 |
| antoniolatiano | i have already talked with sledges, just wondering if anyone know when it starts | 19:51 |
| antoniolatiano | and sorry for my english | 19:51 |
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| avivbyo | anything new? | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | antoniolatiano: when we're ready to :) | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | for now my team has had planning for today, moving from demo mode (mwc) to product mode, so that's where it'll all surround | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | we need to wait for the latest sailfishos update to come out, at least | 19:53 |
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| antoniolatiano | OK thank you very much | 19:54 |
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| mikma | "to come out" sounds so rainbow friendly | 20:01 |
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| avivbyo | I wonder , can we "tweak" sailfish homescreen somehow? i mean it's opensource so like Android , we might be able to modify the homescreen (launcher) and add features? | 20:03 |
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| Morpog_PC | avivbyo, you can even replace it with your own launcher | 20:40 |
| avivbyo | So its exactly as i thought. where can if find the launcher source code? | 20:41 |
| Morpog_PC | sailfishOS one doesn't seem to be open sourced | 20:41 |
| Morpog_PC | but nemomobile one is | 20:42 |
| Morpog_PC | https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home | 20:42 |
| avivbyo | Nemo mobile apps will work on Sailfish? | 20:44 |
| Morpog_PC | well, with a bit work they should | 20:44 |
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| avivbyo | well i'll give it a shot :D thanks | 20:45 |
| Morpog_PC | If i remember correctly locusf had lipstick-colorful-home already running on his Jolla device | 20:45 |
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| Morpog_PC | avivbyo, beware, I smell serious bricking danger ;) | 20:45 |
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| Venemo | w00t_: ping | 20:51 |
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| avivbyo | Morpog_PC: i only have the SDK so i'll try there :D | 21:00 |
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| m4g0g | how I should use dialogs? | 22:23 |
| m4g0g | when I accept dialog i get:unknown:111 - file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Silica/PageStack.js:111: Error: Cannot navigate so that the resulting page stack has two consecutive entries of the same page instance. | 22:23 |
| m4g0g | but all work | 22:23 |
| satmd | 772 | 22:24 |
| satmd | ignore me | 22:24 |
| Acce | m4g0g: sounds like you push same page twice in the stack somehow? | 22:25 |
| m4g0g | i know it | 22:26 |
| Acce | do you push a page in onAccepted, perhaps? | 22:26 |
| m4g0g | yes | 22:26 |
| Acce | the same dialog? | 22:26 |
| m4g0g | wow | 22:27 |
| m4g0g | onAccept I shouldn't push page from what dialog opened. | 22:27 |
| m4g0g | thx =) | 22:28 |
| Acce | you're welcome :) | 22:28 |
| m4g0g | I improving foursquare application for sailfish | 22:28 |
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| Acce | cool, personally don't use 4square, but those who do will certainly be happy :) | 22:29 |
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| m4g0g | I think so | 22:31 |
| m4g0g | Now we have fbreader and its greate news! | 22:31 |
| satmd | O_O YAY | 22:31 |
| satmd | is the author of fahrplan in here, too? | 22:31 |
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| satmd | I wanted to just say: Danke. | 22:31 |
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| m4g0g | I want to create so many applicaitons for my jolla but when I can find so much time :-( | 22:32 |
| artemma | fbreader? openrepos? | 22:34 |
| * satmd still waits for a non-html-mail mail reader | 22:34 | |
| satmd | *sigh* | 22:34 |
| satmd | html-mail mail reader was a big turnoff for me :/ | 22:35 |
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| m4g0g | artemma: yes | 22:44 |
| artemma | m4g0g: thx | 22:44 |
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| artemma | What would be the powerful Android device with a smallish screen? 4.0 max, preferably 3.8-3.9 | 23:46 |
| * artemma dreams of running sailfish on a phone where he can actually close the app by swiping with a single hand | 23:46 | |
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