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| zhxt | morning | 01:15 |
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| zhxt | what does the "early adopter" mean? | 01:18 |
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| pp_ | "ready to void warranty and not cry if it breaks" | 05:18 |
| pp_ | I guess :) | 05:19 |
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| jussi | zhxt: it means sledges likes you :P | 05:37 |
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| zhxt | jusics_, haha.., I like him too :D | 06:01 |
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| zhxt | jussi, but I still don't know what the "e d" is? | 06:02 |
| zhxt | s/d/a | 06:03 |
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| jussi | zhxt: have a look at the graph here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_adopter | 06:04 |
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| zhxt | jussi, ok, I'll have a look, thx :) | 06:11 |
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| zhxt | jusics_, I got understand, more or less. | 06:21 |
| zhxt | jusics_, There is a chance to get Sailfish OS running on android devices, am I right? | 06:22 |
| * jussi hands Stskeeps an extra strong one... | 06:22 | |
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| zhxt | jusics_, sorrrrrrrrrrry. I mean jussi . | 06:23 |
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| zhxt | in early stage. | 06:28 |
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| Stskeeps | zhxt: early adopter's first yes, on initially sgs iii lte and nexus 4 | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | but also guide how to do the porting | 06:30 |
| zhxt | Stskeeps, only these two devices ? | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | zhxt: just as 'official' adaptations | 06:32 |
| Stskeeps | rest is possible to make fairly easily | 06:32 |
| Stskeeps | we have a limited team, so | 06:32 |
| jussi | Stskeeps: limited team of you and sledges? :P :P | 06:32 |
| zhxt | Stskeeps, uhmm... understand. | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | jussi: hah, no | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | we're more | 06:33 |
| jussi | hehe | 06:33 |
| Nicd- | guess I'll have to wait with the galaxy gio then | 06:33 |
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| Stskeeps | zhxt: we are probably publishing our in progress adaptations for other devices too; but, honestly, the porting process isn't the hardest in the world | 06:33 |
| jussi | Stskeeps: btw, when are you next in the land of coldness that isnt so cold at the moment? I do think a beer together is in order... | 06:33 |
| Stskeeps | jussi: unknown currently | 06:33 |
| jussi | Stskeeps: also, android apps coming with those? | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | jussi: sorry, was that a pony you're asking for? | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:34 |
| jussi | Stskeeps: hehe, dammit, I tried... | 06:34 |
| Stskeeps | initially not for early adaptor images but you never know what'll happen in future | 06:34 |
| jussi | Stskeeps: and no, it wasnt a pony... it was a UNICORN!!!!!!!!! | 06:35 |
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| Stskeeps | it's one of those key selling points so it's a bit tough problem | 06:35 |
| jussi | yeah, I agree | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | ie, why should we enable other emerging OS'es to have it, too, etc.. | 06:36 |
| jussi | yeah, the business logic of it is hard. | 06:38 |
| zhxt | Stskeeps, uhmmm..., unfortunately, I don't have an S III or nexus 4. | 06:38 |
| zhxt | just an note 3. | 06:39 |
| jussi | how much of it is device specific? or is it the same across devices? | 06:39 |
| Stskeeps | zhxt: does it run cyanogenmod 10.1? still a exynos? | 06:40 |
| jussi | Stskeeps: Im planning to see if I can manage to slap sailfish on this sony ericsson that I have also :) | 06:41 |
| zhxt | Stskeeps, I'm not sure, the official android come with it. | 06:41 |
| Stskeeps | zhxt: ok, sec.. | 06:41 |
| jussi | Xperia pro (the one with a keyboard) :) | 06:41 |
| jussi | zhxt: which model number is it? | 06:41 |
| zhxt | Stskeeps, my model is N9006, | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | zhxt: http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=n7100 ? | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | ah, n9006 | 06:42 |
| zhxt | Stskeeps, good news? | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | not necessarily | 06:42 |
| zhxt | nope, | 06:42 |
| zhxt | I didn't see it in the list. | 06:43 |
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| zhxt | Stskeeps, a device an running CM that can run Sailfish? | 06:45 |
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| Stskeeps | cm10.1 officially definately helps | 06:47 |
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| zhxt | oh. | 06:50 |
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| veimis | is it known that new images taken with the camera won't show in android apps (kakaotalk, wechat, QQ) before restarting the phone? | 09:56 |
| veimis | I guess restaring the android runtime would be enough, but it won't really restart by just closing it? | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | if it's not on together.* add that bug | 09:57 |
| veimis | will do, thanks | 09:57 |
| ottulonen | veimis: I've noticed, but haven't tried to restart | 09:58 |
| ottulonen | so if you add it on tjc, let me know and I'll go vote :P | 09:58 |
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| veimis | sure! | 09:59 |
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| Nicd- | veimis: I've had that same issue | 10:13 |
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| Nicd- | link the tjc here and I'll vote for it too | 10:14 |
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| mike7b4_atwork | Is there some way to enable armv6l in sailfishsdk? Since I want to build RPI image(without sailfish stuff, only qt5) | 10:15 |
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| Nicd- | why do you want to compile it with sailfish sdk if it's not for sailfish? | 10:18 |
| veimis | ottulonen: Nicd- here https://together.jolla.com/question/31882/ | 10:21 |
| Nicd- | thanks, I upvoted | 10:21 |
| veimis | cheers! | 10:22 |
| mike7b4_atwork | Nicd, because there does not exist any MerPlatformSDKVM | 10:22 |
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| ottulonen | veimis: voted | 10:33 |
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| Juuba | any ideas how/where I can get nano or some other terminal-editor in my Jolla | 10:37 |
| Nicd- | you can install nano with pkcon install nano I think | 10:37 |
| Juuba | oh, gotta try that | 10:38 |
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| Juuba | hmmm | 10:39 |
| Juuba | Error message: Couldn't resolve host "releases.jolla.com" | 10:40 |
| Tegu | Juuba: vi is readily installed | 10:40 |
| Nicd- | is your internet connection working? | 10:40 |
| ln- | is vi preinstalled? | 10:40 |
| ln- | ok, so use vi. | 10:41 |
| Nicd- | I like nano :P | 10:41 |
| Juuba | i dont know how to use vi :) | 10:41 |
| Juuba | i'm simple. | 10:41 |
| leinir | vi: because [esc]:q is a totally obvious way to quit an application | 10:42 |
| Juuba | 3G online, connected it says... | 10:42 |
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| Nicd- | leinir: sometimes you need to be angry with [esc]:q!!! | 10:43 |
| Juuba | hmmm | 10:44 |
| Juuba | ping releases.jolla.com works, but no replies | 10:44 |
| Juuba | but pkcon cannot resolve | 10:44 |
| Juuba | oh wait, now it worked | 10:44 |
| Juuba | airplane mode solved problem | 10:44 |
| Juuba | cheers | 10:45 |
| Juuba | what do you guys get if you do "locale" in terminal ? | 10:45 |
| Juuba | i get posix in all | 10:45 |
| Juuba | no wait | 10:45 |
| Juuba | hmm | 10:45 |
| Juuba | when I SSH to my phone i get posix | 10:45 |
| stephg_ | Jubba I get the appropriate UTF8 for ev erything other than LC_ALL and LANGUAGE which are unset | 10:46 |
| Juuba | in terminal it is correct | 10:46 |
| Juuba | so why is the SSH connection with diff locales? | 10:46 |
| Juuba | yeah, in terminal in phone locale is correct... but login over SSH has posix | 10:47 |
| Mnsu_ | ssh uses the client's locales | 10:47 |
| Juuba | okay, last night i was tinkering with it and it was odd | 10:48 |
| Juuba | LANG=GB.utf8, LC_ALL is unset | 10:50 |
| bencoh | is that a valid LANG ? | 10:50 |
| bencoh | (I'd rather say en_GB.UTF-8) | 10:51 |
| Juuba | maybe i typoed it here :) | 10:51 |
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| Juuba | yeah, en_GB.utf8 | 10:51 |
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| Juuba | why does stephg_ have it unset? | 10:51 |
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| stephg_ | LC_ALL? dunno | 10:53 |
| Juuba | no, LANG ? | 10:53 |
| Juuba | or is it different from LANGUAGE | 10:54 |
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| stephg_ | LANG AND LANGUAGE are diff | 11:01 |
| stephg_ | I'd expect LANG to be set | 11:01 |
| veimis | ottulonen: great :) | 11:02 |
| Juuba | okay, I dont have LANGUAGE in my "locale" output | 11:05 |
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| Master-Passeli | coderus: hi, are you aware of mitakuuluu bug where connection to whatsapp servers keeps looping between disconnected -> authorized -> connected -> disconnected... | 12:21 |
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| Master-Passeli | coderus: Mitakuuluu is constantly doing that and is unusable because it takes all the CPU and messages never goes to the servers etc. happends on 3G connection and also on WLAN | 12:23 |
| kor | Master-Passeli: you sure that isn't related to the sailfish bug where the connection just keeps looping in general? | 12:25 |
| kor | on another note, mine always stays on "Authorizing..." if i leave the application for a while. It never logs back in on it's own, I have to quit and restart, but sometimes just opening the application works. | 12:25 |
| Master-Passeli | kor: no, it looks that connection on phone side is working just fine. just Mitakuuluu keeps disconnecting and connecting again | 12:26 |
| kor | ah, okay. My mitäkuuluu keeps losing connection, but not reconnecting | 12:26 |
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| Master-Passeli | restarting whole application does not change the case. just after it start again it starts this loop again | 12:26 |
| kor | does it ever stay connected, or just always do that? | 12:27 |
| Nicd- | my mitäkuuluu sometimes shows "authorizing" when I leave it on its own | 12:27 |
| Nicd- | when I open the UI it instantly logs in | 12:27 |
| Master-Passeli | and i'm running newest Mitakuuluu. i actually happened already with older version but update did not effect at all | 12:28 |
| Master-Passeli | kor: very rarely it stays connected. mostly it just reconnect loops | 12:28 |
| kor | Nicd-: messages don't arrive while the authorizing-message is up, do they? | 12:29 |
| Nicd- | I don't know, I haven't got any during that time | 12:30 |
| Nicd- | I only use whatsapp to talk to my wife :P | 12:30 |
| kor | :D | 12:30 |
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| kor | "selective hearing", in the most optimally enforced way | 12:30 |
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| Stskeeps | leinir: is krita on qt5 yet, ooi? | 14:51 |
| Stskeeps | krita sketch specifically | 14:51 |
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| mirkolone | hi sailors! | 14:53 |
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| Stskeeps | mirkolone: hewwo | 14:53 |
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| mirkolone | my nexus 4 is bored of androiddd, he says swipe me! | 14:56 |
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| mirkolone | #can't wait | 14:56 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 14:59 |
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| leinir | Stskeeps: Not yet, no - Krita on qt5 is a 3.0 thing | 15:01 |
| Yaniel | apparently even the desktop version is still 4.x :( | 15:02 |
| leinir | as in, a Calligra 3.0 thing :) | 15:04 |
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| cvp | hi, is it possible to refresh/rescan/ the batterie state over the terminal? | 15:13 |
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| Umeaboy | Hi! | 16:22 |
| Umeaboy | Is there any porting instructions out for Sailfish yet? | 16:22 |
| inffy | don't think so | 16:23 |
| Umeaboy | Perhaps a chroot-build? | 16:23 |
| Umeaboy | OK. | 16:23 |
| Umeaboy | I have the 7" Samsung Galaxy Tab that I want to port Sailfish to. | 16:23 |
| Umeaboy | P1000. | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | does it run cyanogenmod 10.1? | 16:24 |
| Umeaboy | Bootloader SHOULD be unlocked,but I can't boot into bootloader mode. | 16:24 |
| Umeaboy | I used the Chainfire unlock app to unlock it. | 16:25 |
| Umeaboy | Right now it's blanked out. | 16:25 |
| Umeaboy | It boots a rooted kernel thou. | 16:25 |
| Yaniel | but can you get it to run cyanogenmod 10.1 | 16:25 |
| Umeaboy | Yes. | 16:25 |
| Umeaboy | I did use it a while ago. | 16:26 |
| Umeaboy | Why? | 16:26 |
| ryukafalz | So, just to be clear... even if a device runs CM 10.1, if it's a CDMA device, Sailfish won't support it at this point right? Because of lack of ofono support? | 16:26 |
| Umeaboy | It is a CDMA-device. 3G-modem. | 16:27 |
| Umeaboy | Native compilation from the SD-card is possible? | 16:27 |
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| XenGi | tonight we have a sailfish os meetup at c-base space station. feel free to drop in if you are near the landing site in berlin. | 16:29 |
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| Umeaboy | https://www.google.se/search?q=ofono+support+%2B+P1000&num=100&tbas=0&biw=1366&bih=606&sa=X&ei=UlEXU72JMsnS4QSViIDIAw&ved=0CB8QpwUoBg&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A2012-01-01%2Ccd_max%3A2014-03-05&tbm= | 16:32 |
| Umeaboy | Something seems to be discussed related to it. | 16:32 |
| Umeaboy | :) | 16:32 |
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| celeron55 | how would i go about enabling one to take a picture from my app, so that the app can get the image data? | 17:34 |
| celeron55 | (as an image file) | 17:34 |
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| Acce | a screenshot? | 17:35 |
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| celeron55 | oh i mean photo, using the camera | 17:35 |
| Acce | ah, ok, sorry, don't know about that | 17:36 |
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| celeron55 | on android there's a way to just tell the OS that "i want a photo to be taken, put it in this location" and then the OS calls back once the user is done with it | 17:38 |
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| tbr | I think I saw someone do that for QR codes. one of the 2-factor auth apps | 17:48 |
| tbr | look at how they did it | 17:48 |
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| veimis | ottulonen: Nicd- There was actually a related question in tjc with a workaround to show new pictures in android apps: restart android with Killdroid from Jolla store. I edit the bug report with this information. | 17:54 |
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| Nicd- | yeah, I read that | 17:55 |
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| celeron55 | tbr: found it; looks like SailOTP had to use something that isn't allowed in harbour at the moment | 18:00 |
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| tbr | but I installed it from harbour IIRC? | 18:00 |
| celeron55 | 0.6 is in harbour, 0.7 is in openrepos | 18:01 |
| celeron55 | 0.7 adds QR code stuff | 18:01 |
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| leszek | hi | 18:01 |
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| gobbe | nn/win 5 | 18:21 |
| gobbe | hups | 18:21 |
| gobbe | sorry :) | 18:22 |
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| ottulonen | veimis: when you mentioned reboot fixes it, I was thinking of KillDroid, but I didn't get around to trying it yet | 19:13 |
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| veimis | yep, it's better than rebooting the phone, but hardly ideal :) | 19:45 |
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