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| Isabella29 | Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 00:04 |
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| katy30 | Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 04:04 |
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| tanghus | Stskeeps: we need some banning here ;) | 05:17 |
| ericcc | agree | 05:19 |
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| Mae24 | Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 06:04 |
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| Barbara29 | You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 08:04 |
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| AL13N | anyone: https://together.jolla.com/question/31188/qml-argument-access/ | 09:34 |
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| tortoisedoc | ahoi | 10:11 |
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| tortoisedoc | has anyone encountered problems when debugging on emulator? | 10:12 |
| tortoisedoc | i.e. debugging won't start= | 10:12 |
| tortoisedoc | ? | 10:12 |
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| AL13N | sorry, not using an emulator, i'm developing on-device | 10:12 |
| tortoisedoc | AL13N : I would too if it would work :D | 10:13 |
| Nightmare__ | i have the same problem, but i never tried to fix it, here is sometinh on together.jolla: https://together.jolla.com/question/12734/how-to-debug-using-gdb-on-device/ | 10:14 |
| Nightmare__ | https://together.jolla.com/question/7011/debugging-in-mer-vm-does-not-start/ | 10:15 |
| tortoisedoc | i believe it makes sense trying to get my own merssh tool | 10:16 |
| tortoisedoc | unless there is an update coming soon, that is :/ | 10:16 |
| tortoisedoc | (im on win7 btw) | 10:16 |
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| tortoisedoc | as far as I remember | 10:19 |
| tortoisedoc | debugging on emulator was working prior to the latest update | 10:19 |
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| Shin_NeMeSiS | any news about the early adopters android users? | 10:43 |
| Acce | Shin_NeMeSiS: if you want beta, you can contact sledges, apparently | 10:45 |
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| AL13N | what was the fast µSD cards again? | 10:53 |
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| AL13N | i see microSDXC or microSDXC UHS | 10:54 |
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| SpeedEvil | Wasn't it sandisk | 10:58 |
| * SpeedEvil tries to rememebr the variant | 10:58 | |
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| celeron55 | this again seems to be one of the randomly-impossible-to-figure-out things | 10:59 |
| SpeedEvil | http://www.ebuyer.com/451432-sandisk-ultra-android-32gb-microsd-adap-sdsdqua-032g-u46a ? | 11:00 |
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| celeron55 | now i got it to work | 11:10 |
| celeron55 | using the Connections component with target: <singleton name> | 11:10 |
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| suy | coderus: I just saw whatspie.com, cool! Seems a good idea if you fear problems with DMCA takedowns. :-( You plan to put Mitakuuluu there? | 11:32 |
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| Emily20 | Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 12:07 |
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| Acce | is there a way to render a single qquickitem and it's children into a framebuffer object? | 12:14 |
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| xnbya | Hello, any news on a nexus 5 port? | 12:57 |
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| tbr | xnbya: the nx4 port isn't public yet, so it's pointless to ask | 13:06 |
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| Stskeeps | <mwc mode>we'll be rolling this out during next half year, first to early adoptors and then later on fully to users</mwc> | 13:09 |
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| tbr | :( | 13:20 |
| tbr | :) | 13:20 |
| tbr | (the first one because it means that the adaptation is not going to be open source nor under any friendly license at least until general user rollout) | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | well, adaptation is one thing, images is another | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | i consider them seperate | 13:23 |
| tbr | I understannd that there are probably business reasons and all that. Still it makes the open source person in me sad. | 13:24 |
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| * Stskeeps points to http://github.com/mer-hybris/ | 13:26 | |
| tbr | ah, so the stuff is actually there? | 13:28 |
| tbr | that's nice then | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | still some bits missing but it'll come | 13:28 |
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| satmd | actually a good idea | 13:29 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 14:11 |
| tortoisedoc | so is debugging broken in latest sdk upgrade for both emulator & device or only device= | 14:11 |
| tortoisedoc | ? | 14:11 |
| Acce | tortoisedoc: it doesn't work, is all I know | 14:13 |
| Acce | I also heard it's being worked on | 14:14 |
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| tortoisedoc | Acce: doenst work on both device and emulator? | 14:18 |
| tortoisedoc | I knew it only did not work on device | 14:18 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm perhaps I should downgrade | 14:19 |
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| inffy | D] Package::InstallTransactionPkgKit::giveUpOrRetry:220 - void Package::InstallTransactionPkgKit::giveUpOrRetry(const QString&) "could not find package ambience-black" | 15:06 |
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| inffy | what the hell is that on my log while trying to install the TOH package | 15:06 |
| zippo | does anyone have any experience with qdeclarativeimageprovider for manipulating images? | 15:07 |
| inffy | actually that happens with any package I try to install | 15:07 |
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| Acce | does someone know a way to grab qml items into qimages? I need to grab an item that is larger than the qwindow it resides in, so grabWindow is not useful | 15:23 |
| Acce | alternatively, does someone know how if it's possible to draw qml items on the Canvas item somehow? | 15:24 |
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| AL13N | Acce: btw: the Qt global object isn't available supposedly in 5.0, or at least it escaped documenation | 15:42 |
| AL13N | Acce: it's only in 4.7 & 4.8... did jolla make the Qt object? | 15:43 |
| AL13N | (for 5.0) | 15:43 |
| AL13N | *5.x ? | 15:43 |
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| wellum | hi | 15:44 |
| wellum | anyone know if I can develop native SailfishOS app that uses camera? I need the viewfinder and ability to take photos. Usage of QtMultimedia and Camera item in QML failed. | 15:45 |
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| Acce | AL13N: it's atleast in Qt 5.1 docs..? | 15:45 |
| AL13N | i've been looking for ages at the doc | 15:45 |
| AL13N | if you have a link, plz | 15:45 |
| AL13N | Acce: http://qt-project.org/search/tag/global~qt~object | 15:46 |
| AL13N | see | 15:46 |
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| Acce | AL13N: yes, actually I haven't found any "real" docs either... just this mention: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtqml/qtqml-releasenotes.html | 15:47 |
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| Acce | which says that "arguments" was added to Qt.application in 5.1 | 15:47 |
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| AL13N | great | 15:47 |
| AL13N | :-( | 15:47 |
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| AL13N | typical that the pc i'm testing on has 5.0 | 15:48 |
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| Acce | :/ | 15:48 |
| AL13N | also, looking at tagging, it seems they stopped tagging documentation after 4.8 | 15:48 |
| Acce | I find it very hard to find anything in qt docs | 15:49 |
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| Acce | but I'm probably doing it wrong? | 15:49 |
| AL13N | i have a similar issue | 15:50 |
| AL13N | it's more difficult to find something in there, rather than together | 15:50 |
| AL13N | ... and that's saying something | 15:50 |
| Acce | lol | 15:50 |
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| Acce | sigh, anyways, I don't get it, why is there no simple way to export qml items into images | 15:51 |
| Acce | they should all have some "save" method like the canvas element, damnit | 15:52 |
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| AL13N | and you can't just have Canvas as parent? | 15:53 |
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| Acce | I can | 15:53 |
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| Acce | but, the save method does only export stuff that has been drawn on the canvas | 15:53 |
| AL13N | ah | 15:53 |
| Acce | not it's child items | 15:53 |
| AL13N | ic | 15:54 |
| wellum | do does Camera item in QML work out-of-the-box on SailfishOS? | 15:54 |
| AL13N | i guess it's not something that's often done | 15:54 |
| AL13N | wellum: ok-ish, afaik | 15:54 |
| Acce | it would have been perfectly logical to me that the child items are saved too, since they're shown on the screen.. | 15:54 |
| AL13N | wellum: the camera app makes use of it | 15:54 |
| * SpeedEvil ponders asterisk. | 15:55 | |
| wellum | AL13N: I get this [W] CameraBinSession::processBusMessage:912 - CameraBin error: "No common caps" | 15:55 |
| wellum | when I try to use Camera or VideoOutput on my QML app | 15:55 |
| AL13N | maybe you need those BINFLAGS env variables | 15:56 |
| AL13N | VideoOutput just doesn't work | 15:56 |
| AL13N | i'd had to change to GStreamerVideoOutput | 15:56 |
| wellum | ah, let me try... | 15:56 |
| AL13N | btw: anyone know how subtitles gets done on the GStreamerVideoOutput (or VideoOutput) | 15:56 |
| wellum | what should I import in order to use that? | 15:56 |
| AL13N | Silica.Media iinm | 15:57 |
| AL13N | or SailFish.Media | 15:57 |
| AL13N | something like that | 15:57 |
| AL13N | wellum: you can check how the gallery app does it in their qml files | 15:57 |
| AL13N | it's in /usr/lib/qt5/qml/ somewhere | 15:58 |
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| wellum | AL13N: so you mean on device or under $HOME/SailfishOS/... | 15:59 |
| AL13N | i mean on device | 16:01 |
| AL13N | but maybe it's in the SDK too | 16:01 |
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| AL13N | i don't have SDK | 16:01 |
| wellum | ah | 16:01 |
| wellum | I'll check the device imports next. Could not find anything like that on SDK. | 16:01 |
| AL13N | how does gstreamer decide the audio stream and subtitle stream??? | 16:01 |
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| AL13N | goddamnit... video/audio streams isn't as easy | 16:23 |
| AL13N | *audio/subtitle i meant | 16:23 |
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| AL13N | it's somewhere deep inside gstreamer, so i don't know if qtmultimedia even exports this | 16:23 |
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| leszek | hi | 16:54 |
| SpeedEvil | hi | 16:55 |
| Acce | is someone familiar with the qml rendering? | 16:58 |
| Acce | or able to point me to a document that explains how it goes, and where is the rendered stuff stored? | 16:58 |
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| M4rtinK | Acce: do you mean the Qt 5 scenegraph stuff ? | 17:09 |
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| M4rtinK | Acce: maybe this for an overview: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtquick-visualcanvas-scenegraph-renderer.html | 17:10 |
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| suy | Acce: "stored"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdyRZApt5ww this might be useful if what you want is knowing about the engine | 17:34 |
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| Acce | suy, M4rtinK thanks! | 18:00 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 19:50 |
| tortoisedoc | anyone got a clue about "Failed to load platform plugin "xcb"." | 19:50 |
| tortoisedoc | ? | 19:50 |
| tortoisedoc | happens when debuggin on-emulator with gdb | 19:51 |
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| jake9xx | perhaps the platform argument is not transferred correctl? | 20:04 |
| jake9xx | you do know that gdb debugging is 1312 is broken :/ | 20:04 |
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| Shin_NeMeSiS | Hi! Anything new? | 20:20 |
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| Otacon | hi there guys | 20:43 |
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| Guest45338 | anyone excited about saiflish os on nexus 4?? | 20:44 |
| fk_lx | Guest45338: Nexus 4 owners? | 20:44 |
| Guest45338 | me | 20:44 |
| Guest45338 | currently running omniron on the nexus 4, but i want to use sailfish os, it has a more appealing interface, really | 20:46 |
| avivbyo | I own a N4 too | 20:46 |
| Guest45338 | Nexus 4 party | 20:47 |
| avivbyo | Really excited! i followed jolla for a long time and it's like a dream come true | 20:47 |
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| Guest45338 | for those who are worried about whatsapp service on Sailfish OS, i discovered a native app named Mitkuuluu | 20:48 |
| Guest45338 | plus i think it's open source | 20:48 |
| avivbyo | It is opensource , Mitakuuluu is vert known | 20:49 |
| avivbyo | very* | 20:49 |
| Guest45338 | oh nice | 20:49 |
| walokra | what I have understood, mitakuuluu isn't open source as the core isnt' available | 20:50 |
| Guest45338 | is there any site/store with only open source apps for Sailfish OS? An f-droid equivalent i mean | 20:50 |
| avivbyo | I know there is a github with only open source apps | 20:51 |
| avivbyo | This one i think | 20:51 |
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| avivbyo | https://github.com/sailfishapps/ | 20:51 |
| Guest45338 | cool, thanks | 20:51 |
| walokra | that repo is missing a bunch of os apps | 20:54 |
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| Guest45338 | no news about when are they realeasing the port for the nexus ?? | 21:00 |
| avivbyo | I guess it will be released somehere in Early-Mid March | 21:04 |
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| avivbyo | Because someone told me that the phones at MWC (All of them including the N4 SG4 and the MI2) used Sailfish 1.0.4.1 that update should be released in a few days so.... | 21:05 |
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| Turski | i think android-device ports were supposed to be coming on Q2 | 21:07 |
| Turski | no source here, i just think i read so somewhere | 21:07 |
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| avivbyo | Heard is should be out somewhere between , but i asked sledges about the Early adopting thingy , anyone who signup get it before | 21:08 |
| avivbyo | Between Q1-Q2 | 21:09 |
| Turski | between Q1 and Q2? | 21:09 |
| Turski | there's no between, it's Q1 or Q2 | 21:10 |
| Stskeeps | early adaptors will get it first, goal is to general users before H1 ends | 21:10 |
| Guest45338 | i think early adopters would leak the firmware | 21:10 |
| Turski | Stskeeps: btw, can you confirm me the battery problems will be gone on next update? | 21:10 |
| Stskeeps | Guest45338: probably | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | but leaked firmware carries another aspect which is that it's understood that it can be buggy | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | which is the difference | 21:11 |
| Guest45338 | true | 21:11 |
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| Stskeeps | Turski: if it's okay i don't want to confirm anything officially until you find that it fixes your particular issue | 21:12 |
| Guest45338 | yeah, right | 21:12 |
| Stskeeps | and it's a way of saying 'may eat your children' if it's not posted as something fully productized | 21:12 |
| Turski | Stskeeps: well, i mean more like do you think it should be fixed? | 21:12 |
| Stskeeps | Turski: as there's always a chance the problem you're having isn't exactly is related to what's fixed :P | 21:13 |
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| avivbyo | Actually the only issue i heard of about the MWC Sailfish-Running-Android phones is the camera (not working) | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | sorry for giving you a roundabout answer on that, there's always a chance that it's not exactly the problem you're having :) | 21:13 |
| Turski | Stskeeps: so, at least you said that something related to some battery problems is fixed :P | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | avivbyo: and a few other things, yes | 21:14 |
| Turski | (or was that only theoretical talking) | 21:14 |
| avivbyo | Stskeeps: heard thats the most noticable issue , although i will probably multiboot android & sailfish at start | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | but anyway, we'll gather a community of early adoptors and get the kinks ironed out | 21:16 |
| avivbyo | yeah that's a smart move | 21:17 |
| Guest45338 | that would be easy. I see a lot of people caring about the release of Sailfish OS | 21:17 |
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| avivbyo | Im trying to gather an Israeli Sailfish community so far i have around twenty people :) (been only 2 hours) | 21:18 |
| Stskeeps | but anyway since we're talking, what do you expect to work on it to use it as a daily device? | 21:18 |
| Stskeeps | from hw pov | 21:18 |
| avivbyo | Camera , GPS , Data (GSM CALLS SMS), WIFI | 21:19 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 21:19 |
| avivbyo | nod? | 21:20 |
| Stskeeps | to nod your head in agreement | 21:20 |
| avivbyo | Oh haha | 21:20 |
| Guest45338 | i don't carea bout GPS, camera or bluetooth | 21:20 |
| Guest45338 | ofr me as a daily device i want data and wifi | 21:21 |
| avivbyo | I care about GPS only because i run using Nike+ | 21:21 |
| Stskeeps | how about android apps compatibility..? | 21:22 |
| Guest45338 | that would be cool, but not necessary for me since there is already an app for whatsapp service (Mitakuuluu) | 21:23 |
| avivbyo | Ummm , Instagram is important for many also Vine ... (Although im currently creating a native instagram client | 21:24 |
| avivbyo | Facebook might be also an issue if messed up , but i really hope Nike Running app will work | 21:24 |
| walokra | avivbyo: with upload? revenge engineering the api? | 21:24 |
| walokra | jjukkis or someone is doing native instagram also for sailfishos, instafish | 21:25 |
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| avivbyo | walokra: instagram is sort of "giving away" the API. | 21:25 |
| avivbyo | I thought to call mine Fishagram lol | 21:26 |
| Guest45338 | i like using Facebook from the browser, don't know if you can do the same with instagram | 21:26 |
| Guest45338 | i dont use it | 21:26 |
| walokra | avivbyo: giving away, how? | 21:26 |
| avivbyo | http://instagram.com/developer/ | 21:27 |
| avivbyo | it's not everything | 21:27 |
| avivbyo | i took a few things from there , but a few things are a bit of a hack :) | 21:27 |
| walokra | yeah, the media part is missing | 21:27 |
| avivbyo | But im getting closer , i made the picture of people im following show up | 21:28 |
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| avivbyo | But im aiming for a sort of a mini-browsing experince with the cover feature... | 21:29 |
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| avivbyo | Also my computer is barely running the SDK so i really want and need that "Early Adopter" release :X | 21:31 |
| Stskeeps | fair | 21:31 |
| Stskeeps | nexus 4 right? | 21:31 |
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| avivbyo | Yep | 21:31 |
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| avivbyo | btw this is the current icon for "Fishagram" http://imageshack.com/a/img36/4912/hd8m.png the font is Billabong for those who interested | 21:51 |
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| kkruglov | Another nexus 4 user with custom rom here ;) | 22:37 |
| kkruglov | owner of n900 and n9 in old times | 22:37 |
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| pp_ | believe amd get jolla as soon as they give you the possibility to give your money to! | 22:50 |
| pp_ | (pretty much close to, here) | 22:50 |
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| tehbri | So excited about new sailfish release. could i get in on early adopters for N4 pls? | 23:02 |
| Dev-aux | tehbri: Maybe sledges knows more about this :) | 23:04 |
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| bobofosho123 | Hello everyone, I'm interested in joining any beta/alpha testing for Sailfish on the Nexus 4. | 23:24 |
| bobofosho123 | I read in a forum thread on XDA to come here. | 23:24 |
| bobofosho123 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/sailfish-os-coming-soon-t2620623 | 23:25 |
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| Dev-aux | bobofosho123: sledges knows more :) | 23:27 |
| bobofosho123 | Should I DM him/her? | 23:27 |
| Dev-aux | You can try. He won't bite | 23:28 |
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| bobofosho123 | Thanks! | 23:28 |
| bobofosho123 | :) | 23:28 |
| * sledges bites | 23:28 | |
| Dev-aux | :-O | 23:29 |
| sledges | once :) | 23:29 |
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| aivot-on | O hi guys, I'm completely newbie to sailfish development... And linux development aswell. I have strong background in web-development though, mind you share your resources to sailfish development? | 23:30 |
| bobofosho123 | ;) | 23:31 |
| aivot-on | Seriously, the sdk I downloaded doesn't give out too much | 23:32 |
| Yaniel | aivot-on: QML is pretty similar to HTML5 | 23:33 |
| walokra | aivot-on: read some sailfishos projects from github, check the sailfishos.org example etc. and experiment | 23:33 |
| Yaniel | and you use it with JavaScript anyway so in that sense it should not be a big step | 23:33 |
| walokra | qml is pretty easy and you can use javascript for the actions | 23:33 |
| Yaniel | what gets a bit more complicated is when you need to package your app so it can be accepted to harbour | 23:34 |
| walokra | sdk has the component gallery example which shows how elements work | 23:34 |
| Yaniel | or when you want to use c++ | 23:34 |
| aivot-on | Well the harbour isn't the concern right now :) there is still a long way to publishing apps | 23:35 |
| Yaniel | still a thing to keep in mind | 23:37 |
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