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| bennypr0fane | what do you guys think of always posting the version no. of latest public release here in the channel topic? Or even better, on a designated page on the website | 00:16 |
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| coderus | morning! | 05:01 |
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| wellu_ | is it a known problem that Harbour statistics are not updating? | 08:06 |
| wellu_ | or is the Total likes, Total downloads etc. gauges just mockups? | 08:06 |
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| zuh | wellu_: Yes, the functionality is not yet there but is worked on I believe | 08:14 |
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| wellu_ | zuh: ah... well... was not clear at all that they are not functional. | 08:16 |
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| cos- | http://siilihai.blogspot.fi/2014/01/siilihai-mobile-sailfish-in-warehouse.html | 09:27 |
| cos- | what was quick | 09:27 |
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| cos- | s/wh/th/ | 09:28 |
| cos- | btw are warehouse updates displayed as notifications? | 09:31 |
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| coderus | cos-: not yet, will be in future versions | 10:01 |
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| netzvieh | coderus: I have no sim in my Jolla yet. When using Mitakuuluu and someone not yet in my Mitakuuluu contact list writes me, I always get contact sync failed. Is the missing sim the problem? And I can't add contacts to that list, "Phonebook syncing started" "Contacts syncing failed" | 10:51 |
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| diureetti | Hi, any ideas how could I drag listview sideways (to expose something underneath) and still be able to scroll the list? | 11:19 |
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| diureetti | my first attempt was using mouse area (fill: parent) and drag but this prevents listview from getting any events | 11:20 |
| diureetti | so, either forwarding events to listview or "spying" events to do the drag are my options but I can't get either to work | 11:21 |
| diureetti | I guess I can create a c++ component that can just listen touch events without capturing them and I guess I try that next. Does anybody have a pointer to a source that would to that and I could look as an example? | 11:24 |
| lbt | diureetti: what are you trying to achieve? | 11:24 |
| euroelessar | what is approximate count of books in phone's local library? | 11:25 |
| lbt | can you simply use the page approach? | 11:25 |
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| euroelessar | how much should I optimize scanning of book's collection? | 11:25 |
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| lbt | euroelessar: see settings -> about and it tells you how much space you have - many gigs | 11:32 |
| euroelessar | lbt: I understand that I can upload to my Jolla about 60GB of books :) | 11:33 |
| euroelessar | the question is - how many books people would really upload | 11:33 |
| lbt | hehe ... it has only 16Gb space when it's empty | 11:33 |
| euroelessar | lbt: you've forgotten about microsd slot | 11:34 |
| euroelessar | where 64GB microsd card can be placed | 11:34 |
| cos- | is it possible to change virtual keyboard color scheme in qml? | 11:37 |
| cos- | currently it's too transparent | 11:37 |
| lbt | cos-: feedback like that to together.jolla.com | 11:39 |
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| lbt | euroelessar: 60Gb/$BOOK_SIZE_IN_GB | 11:39 |
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| diureetti | lbt: I need to expose something underneath listview, make a peek | 12:23 |
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| lbt | diureetti: it probably makes more sense to use the existing UI components :) ... try to add an attached page and pull left to get to it | 12:26 |
| lbt | it's similar to a peek but more consitent | 12:26 |
| lbt | and intercepting events is possible - but likely to be confusing to users and painful to handle | 12:27 |
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| lbt | (I did something lke that years ago on the N800 to implement flickable on top of a textarea whilst still allowing drag-to-select | 12:28 |
| diureetti | lbt: can you point me to the example or was this closed source? | 12:29 |
| lbt | it was QWidget so almost completely irrelevant :) | 12:30 |
| diureetti | ok :-) | 12:31 |
| lbt | and I was mainly saying I know what I'm talking about when I say "don't do that for your sanity's sake" | 12:31 |
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| julian | hi | 12:34 |
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| lbt | diureetti: it would/should actually be confusing if a 'pull' caused a peek | 12:35 |
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| euroelessar | is it known issue that activating of virtual keyboard resizes all pages but not only active one? | 12:36 |
| euroelessar | or it is correct behaviour? | 12:37 |
| coderus | yup | 12:39 |
| coderus | ApplicationWindow changing geometry | 12:39 |
| euroelessar | this makes reader to recalculate all pages %) | 12:41 |
| euroelessar | should I use to 'Screen.width/height' properties? | 12:41 |
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| hsivonen | is there a way for an Android app to make a Sailfish-specific request to hide the Android system button bar? | 12:42 |
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| Stskeeps | isn't there such a thing in android | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 12:45 |
| netzvieh | Stskeeps: afaik only for the top notification bar, not the bottom buttons. | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:48 |
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| hsivonen | Stskeeps: There seems to be a way for video players on Android to hide the button when the user isn't touching the screen, but I'm not sure if there's a general way to just get rid of them. In case there's as supported general Android API that an app should call on Sailfish, what's the right way for an Android app to detect that it's running on Sailfish? | 12:51 |
| hsivonen | "right" as in supported as forward-compatible by Sailfish | 12:51 |
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| coderus | euroelessar: sure, with page.isPortrait checkings ;) | 12:55 |
| coderus | euroelessar: but it will not work on N9 port =( | 12:55 |
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| euroelessar | coderus: :( | 12:57 |
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| euroelessar | coderus: I hope portrait issue will be fixed in upstream | 12:57 |
| Hurrian | hsivonen: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/Build.html | 12:58 |
| Hurrian | checking for the device as tagged in build.prop would be the best way to alter behavior for running under Sailfish | 12:58 |
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| radiofree | is anyone working on an openwhatsapp client for sailfish (like wazapp)? | 13:04 |
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| ottulo | radiofree: there's already mitakuuluu | 13:05 |
| radiofree | that's not opensource right? | 13:05 |
| ottulo | well, that I'm not sure about | 13:05 |
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| ottulo | there's stuff on github | 13:07 |
| ottulo | but I haven't used version control systems so I can't say if that makes it opensource or not | 13:08 |
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| netzvieh | hmm the LICENSE files is empty, but the sources are there afaict | 13:18 |
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| radiofree | " Sources will be opened when i finish working on Mitakuuluu. I really afraid of competitors here, sorry. Don't want my project to be forked :) " | 13:19 |
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| tabasko | is there somewhere good example or howto about using python3 with sailfishos? | 14:18 |
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| tabasko | thp's pyotherside documentation is something. But Im still stuck at starting with it | 14:19 |
| thp | tabasko: there's https://github.com/gpodder/gpodder-sailfish which might be a starting point | 14:19 |
| joonahoi | tabasko: there's also a short intro written in finnish, 2sec | 14:21 |
| joonahoi | http://www.moduli.info/2014/01/sailfish-ja-pyotherside.html | 14:21 |
| joonahoi | this | 14:21 |
| tabasko | joonahoi: wow, this looks nice | 14:24 |
| tabasko | thanks thp , joonahoi | 14:24 |
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| joonahoi | thp is the person you should thank, i'm just a linkbot ;) | 14:25 |
| joonahoi | (and did) | 14:25 |
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| thp | joonahoi: nice, linked to it from the pyotherside website (although i don't understand what it says ;) | 14:26 |
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| tabasko | thp: it seems to be simple starting tutorial for python + sailfishos. I have tried to search some github repos, but I just get more confused when I try to understand them. Im really rookie :P | 14:29 |
| joonahoi | the article isn't authored by me, just stumbled upon it. it's pretty compact guide in finnish. works too (got the env set up myself using it) | 14:29 |
| tabasko | and even thinking about mixing python and qml gets head spin | 14:30 |
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| joonahoi | is there any pointers about debugging using pyotherside + qml btw? i wasn't able to get python errors to qt creator log | 14:36 |
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| joonahoi | nor qml errors though. in case of error, the program just crashed and returned to emulator desktop | 14:37 |
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| John24 | hey guys, Got a question about the Jolla harbour | 15:13 |
| John24 | can any of you see stats of your apps on the dashboard? | 15:13 |
| John24 | I got 3 apps publioshed already but see no stats at all :( | 15:13 |
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| Venemo | John24: you can see the stats on the jolla device itself in the store | 15:23 |
| Venemo | John24: unfortunately the web UI is incomplete in this regard | 15:24 |
| John24 | Oh it actually isn't working? Well I will just stick to using the store for feedback. I'm more interested in user feedback and stats | 15:24 |
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| Venemo | John24: if you don't have a device, I can take a look at the stats for you ;) | 15:27 |
| John24 | Thank you for the kind offer :) I do have a Jolla phone | 15:28 |
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| John24 | and I was impressed with feedback I got from users, which allowed to me to greatly improve my apps | 15:28 |
| Waitee | nice | 15:29 |
| Jonni | yes, currently harbour web pages dont show the stats, we are working on that in the future it does. | 15:29 |
| Waitee | finally a native app for facebook | 15:29 |
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| Venemo | John24: what apps are those, by the way? | 15:31 |
| John24 | my apps? | 15:31 |
| Waitee | yea | 15:32 |
| John24 | Age Calculator, BMI Calculator and VLC Remote | 15:33 |
| Venemo | John24: ah, nice | 15:34 |
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| John24 | nothing special, still learning QML then gooing to come in getting my C++ code working :) | 15:35 |
| Venemo | John24: if you have any questions, feel free to ask around here | 15:36 |
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| John24 | oh I have been if not for help here I would have been lost. Never used Qt creator before. VS2010/11/13 was my only experience | 15:41 |
| coderus | any tool in sailfish to make and apply patch for binary files? | 15:43 |
| Venemo | John24: it was the same for me | 15:49 |
| John24 | you got any apps your working on at the moment? | 15:50 |
| Venemo | yes | 15:52 |
| Venemo | I have Puzzle Master (in the store) and at the moment jpnurmi and myself are working on the IRC client | 15:52 |
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| John24 | oh wow that's nice :) | 15:54 |
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| Venemo | if you haven't seen it, I also recommend to download puzzle master | 15:54 |
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| John24 | I do have it :D and it's brilliant | 15:55 |
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| Venemo | thanks John24 :) | 15:57 |
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| leszek | hi | 16:41 |
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| leszek | I have a strange problem. pageStack.clear() followed by a pageStack.push(somePage) when using a silicawebview inside the page will end with a blank(white) page. It seems not to redraw until I scroll. Is there a way to force redrawing ? | 16:43 |
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| coderus | leszek: why pageStack.clear() ? isnt somePage not your root page? | 17:02 |
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| leszek | coderus: exactly somePage is not the root page. Basically I have a list of page objects which I want to replace on the pageStack | 17:06 |
| leszek | and somePage is one of them | 17:06 |
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| coderus | i think you need to pop to root page and then replace it with somePage | 17:12 |
| coderus | i dont like using pageStack.clean | 17:13 |
| leszek | replace might work but only if I would have 1 page on the stack but somePage is also capable of pushing another page on the stack. A pop() and replace () would be nice but it seems that this does not work as pop() complains about "Cannot pop to invalid target page which is not present on the stack" | 17:15 |
| jpnurmi | you could iterate to the bottom most page with pageStack.previousPage() and than call replaceAbove() | 17:15 |
| coderus | while (pageStack.depth > 1) { pageStack.pop(); } | 17:16 |
| coderus | pageStack.replace(somePage) | 17:16 |
| jpnurmi | actually null does the trick too | 17:16 |
| jpnurmi | pageStack.replaceAbove(null, newPage) | 17:16 |
| jpnurmi | "Any pages above the specified existingPage will be removed. If existingPage is null, all pages on the stack are removed." | 17:17 |
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| coderus | good trick, thanks :) | 17:19 |
| leszek | thanks very much this now working as expected ;) Nice tab support now in my little browser finally implemented in a sane way ;) | 17:20 |
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| Tumeez | o.O | 18:51 |
| Tumeez | My phone freezing | 18:51 |
| Tumeez | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGY5LH3P_Xs& | 18:51 |
| Tumeez | It take notifications-pulley menu :DD | 18:51 |
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| Tumeez | No any reaction any swipes, only pulley swipe and shutdown swipe works | 18:53 |
| Yaniel | sounds like the menu still works however | 18:53 |
| Tumeez | Yaniel Check video :) | 18:54 |
| Yaniel | I did | 18:54 |
| Tumeez | o.O ow it's work | 18:55 |
| Tumeez | What a gell | 18:55 |
| Tumeez | h* | 18:55 |
| Yaniel | I hear the clicks on the video | 18:55 |
| Yaniel | but rendering has gone bananas | 18:55 |
| Tumeez | I get MitäKuuluu message | 18:55 |
| Tumeez | And it's work now | 18:55 |
| Tumeez | :DD | 18:55 |
| meShell | hi, started small development today with the SDK and now I need to know if there is a preferred way to run a QProcess with elevated rights? | 19:01 |
| zuh | Tumeez: It'd be interesting to see if 'journalctl -a /usr/bin/lipstick' or '/system/bin/logcat -d' (as root) might give hints what the compositor was doing when not updating the screen... | 19:03 |
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| Tumeez | zuh What command i say? | 19:05 |
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| Tumeez | zuh: journalctl -a /usr/bin/lipstick | 19:09 |
| Tumeez | ? | 19:09 |
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| zuh | Tumeez: Yes | 19:18 |
| zuh | It'll output a bunch of log | 19:18 |
| Tumeez | No more commands? | 19:19 |
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| zuh | That should show any output from lipstick (the compositor) from the current boot, if you are root. If you run it as nemo, it'll just complain that people should be in adm group to get logs... | 19:20 |
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| Tumeez | zuh I don't need devel-su? | 19:21 |
| Tumeez | What I do next? | 19:21 |
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| zuh | If you get the logs, copypaste it to eg. http://pastie.org/ | 19:23 |
| Tumeez | Let's try | 19:23 |
| Tumeez | Showing user generated messages only. Users in the group 'adm' can see all messages. Pass -q to turn this message off. | 19:24 |
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| Tumeez | Hmmh. | 19:25 |
| Tumeez | How I copy all text PuTTy? | 19:25 |
| netzvieh | cld | 19:26 |
| netzvieh | Tumeez: as root | 19:26 |
| Tumeez | cld? | 19:26 |
| netzvieh | hit return instead of backspace ;) so ignore that | 19:27 |
| netzvieh | @your putty question dunno | 19:27 |
| zuh | Tumeez: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/faq.html#faq-cutpaste ? | 19:28 |
| Tumeez | Ah okay | 19:29 |
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| Tumeez | Logs begin at Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:06:52 +0200, end at Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:12:44 | 19:31 |
| Tumeez | And freezing video shows 20:33 | 19:32 |
| zuh | hmh, that's strange... | 19:32 |
| Tumeez | http://gyazo.com/e4f70e6d16adb940e5187d48673b6860.png | 19:33 |
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| Tumeez | zuh Anything else idea? :D | 19:37 |
| netzvieh | Tumeez: did you reboot? | 19:38 |
| Tumeez | No. | 19:38 |
| netzvieh | what does uptime say? | 19:39 |
| Tumeez | Hmm, command? | 19:39 |
| netzvieh | the command is just uptime | 19:39 |
| Tumeez | 21:40:08 up 8 days, 5:47, 1 user, load average: 20.85, 9.84, 6.24 | 19:40 |
| netzvieh | okay. thats very strange... | 19:40 |
| Tumeez | Logfile is full? | 19:41 |
| Tumeez | I don't know | 19:41 |
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| netzvieh | does 'dmesg' say anything? (the last maybe 100 to 500 lines?) | 19:43 |
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| Tumeez | Says more confusing text | 19:44 |
| Tumeez | :D | 19:44 |
| netzvieh | hmm. that not enough.. there are lots of entries in there | 19:44 |
| Tumeez | U want all text? :D | 19:45 |
| netzvieh | hmm the one from the video :P | 19:45 |
| netzvieh | thats about an hour ago | 19:45 |
| netzvieh | so | 19:45 |
| netzvieh | go back 4200 seconds | 19:46 |
| netzvieh | and give me about 2k lines :P | 19:46 |
| Tumeez | How can i browsing previously :D | 19:47 |
| Tumeez | ? | 19:48 |
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| netzvieh | try dmesg | grep -e "603..\." | 19:49 |
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| Tumeez | No say anything | 19:49 |
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| netzvieh | mhh. might be wrong pattern ... anyway. if you just type journalctl as root | 19:51 |
| netzvieh | where does that start? | 19:51 |
| Tumeez | only journalctl? | 19:51 |
| netzvieh | yes | 19:52 |
| Tumeez | Logs begin at Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:12:44 +0200, end at Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:12:44 +0200. | 19:52 |
| netzvieh | what oO | 19:52 |
| netzvieh | strange | 19:52 |
| Tumeez | http://gyazo.com/0b88d6594b84a8ff15a68d85abd38ca3.png | 19:53 |
| Tumeez | I don't know :DD | 19:53 |
| netzvieh | Stskeeps: does jolla throw away logs? | 19:54 |
| netzvieh | *sailfish | 19:54 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, they're not persistent by default | 19:56 |
| netzvieh | ah i see only 1M for journald | 19:56 |
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| Tumeez | Stskeeps Can u say what is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGY5LH3P_Xs& | 19:57 |
| netzvieh | hmm Tumeez if that happens again, get that logs asap (the 'journalctl -a /usr/bin/lipstick') | 19:58 |
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| netzvieh | else i have no idea | 19:58 |
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| Tumeez | Hmmh.. netzvieh My dev mode isn't active when this bug showing.. | 20:05 |
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| netzvieh | Hmm. I always have an SSH session up and running, while it's in the same network :) | 20:06 |
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| jpnurmi | i wish PageStack could queue operations instead of just bailing out right away if there's an active transition ongoing | 21:52 |
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| jpnurmi | it gets ugly if it's in a middle of a page transition while say, an external network event triggers a dialog to be opened | 21:57 |
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| jpnurmi | "Warning: cannot push while transition is in progress" and the dialog never appears... :/ | 21:58 |
| special | ouch. | 21:58 |
| special | doesn't seem like it would be that difficult of a change | 21:59 |
| special | although everything pagestack ends up difficult eventually, I think | 21:59 |
| jpnurmi | hehe i can imagine :) | 22:00 |
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| w00t | special: no it doesn't | 22:35 |
| w00t | special: you just do: "mvogt, make pagestack do ____" | 22:35 |
| w00t | special: and it magically happens | 22:35 |
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| special | w00t: :> | 22:36 |
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