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| miksuh_ | Hmm. have I understood this correctly? | 05:24 |
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| miksuh_ | I want to put qml files to qrc file, including the main qml file. Is it possible to do that using SailfishApp::pathTo() ? | 05:27 |
| miksuh_ | I mean set the source path of main qml file | 05:28 |
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| miksuh_ | and what aboyr active covers, do those work if qml files are in qrc file | 05:30 |
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| miksuh | I think something like this should work: | 05:38 |
| miksuh | view->setSource(SailfishApp::pathTo("qml/main.qml") | 05:38 |
| miksuh | right? I can't try it right now | 05:39 |
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| miksuh | Currently I just deploy qml files with app, but I want to move qml code to qrc resource file | 05:50 |
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| tbr | hmm, alarm clock doesn't fire, reproducibly | 07:18 |
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| fk_lx | tbr: ugh, not good | 07:21 |
| * tbr suspects it's a near-oom condition | 07:22 | |
| tbr | that also looks weird, thousands of those lines: Jan 09 09:16:58 localhost mission-control-5[993]: GLIB CRITICAL ** tp-glib - tp_cli_connection_interface_power_saving_call_set_power_saving: assertion `TP_IS_CONNECTION (proxy)' failed | 07:24 |
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| special | tbr: harmless, but there is a fix merged anyway | 07:25 |
| tbr | ok, good to know | 07:26 |
| special | https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/telepathy-mission-control/pull/3 | 07:26 |
| * tbr retries setting an alarm and watching journal | 07:28 | |
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| tbr | Jan 09 09:27:56 localhost jolla-clock[17647]: [W] AlarmObject::saveReply:305 - org.nemomobile.alarms: Cannot sync alarm to timed: QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply"...s broken.") | 07:32 |
| tbr | erwhat? | 07:32 |
| special | erwhat indeed | 07:32 |
| special | is timed running? | 07:32 |
| tbr | first thing I checked was timed and the process was there | 07:32 |
| * tbr checks again, now | 07:33 | |
| tbr | nemo 906 0.2 3.5 68300 29772 ? Ssl Jan04 15:35 /usr/bin/timed-qt5 --systemd | 07:33 |
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| tbr | jftr, output of free: | 07:34 |
| tbr | Mem: 831704 820700 11004 0 44 106956 | 07:34 |
| tbr | -/+ buffers/cache: 713700 118004 | 07:34 |
| tbr | Swap: 143356 143356 0 | 07:34 |
| tbr | quite full, but not completely | 07:34 |
| tbr | maybe timed locked into some state while memory was full? | 07:34 |
| special | install qdbus if it's not there already | 07:35 |
| special | and try using qdbus to probe at timed and see if it reacts | 07:35 |
| special | alternatively.. | 07:35 |
| special | there's a timed client package somewhere, install that and see if it gets reactions | 07:35 |
| special | I don't have a phone near me, so I can't actually check | 07:35 |
| uvatbc | Hi all, I'm working on getting the Sailfish SDK and emulator to work first in Vmware Workstation and then ESX so the VMs can be easily provisioned to users | 07:35 |
| tbr | hmm no qdbus package in active repositories (mer-tools is on) | 07:36 |
| tbr | timedclient-qt5 is there though | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | uvatbc: problem is that we rely quite heavily on the custom resolutions and the shared folders | 07:36 |
| tbr | let's see | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: can you try to get a non line wrapping journal? | 07:36 |
| tbr | [nemo@localhost ~]$ timedclient-qt5 -p | 07:38 |
| tbr | [W] do_ping_all:1013 - 'ping' call failed QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply", "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.") | 07:38 |
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| special | tbr: strace, gdb, timed-debuginfo, attach strace and/or gdb and see what it's doing | 07:38 |
| uvatbc | Stskeeps: I saw the documentation and realized that almost everything is based off shared folders and I have a fair understanding of why that is sounderstand that. | 07:39 |
| uvatbc | *why that is so | 07:39 |
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| uvatbc | I still think it will help me to at least get the Mer SDK ported to Vmware | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | uvatbc: the custom resolution thing is probably more important | 07:40 |
| uvatbc | not ported... just get it working | 07:40 |
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| uvatbc | is the custom resolution required even for the SDK (not the emulator) ? | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | nah, just for emul | 07:41 |
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| uvatbc | right, so I started with the sdk vm knowing that if it is anything like the old style scratchbox vms, then a UI is not strictly required. | 07:43 |
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| Stskeeps | it's a bit more complex | 07:44 |
| uvatbc | from what I understand, the way it works is that the sailfish qtcreator setup exposes the sources to the sdk vm through "host only networks" based shared folders | 07:44 |
| tbr | WTFBBQ, what is a binary named "timed-aegis-session-helper" doing on my precioussssss? | 07:45 |
| tbr | anyway, that's what I ever got out of the strace: | 07:46 |
| tbr | [root@localhost nemo]# strace -v -f -p 906 | 07:46 |
| tbr | Process 906 attached with 2 threads - interrupt to quit | 07:46 |
| tbr | [pid 930] futex(0xcb2184, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 3, NULL <unfinished ...> | 07:46 |
| tbr | [pid 906] futex(0xcb3df8, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: probably just a leftover | 07:46 |
| tbr | and I tried running the ping | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | i'm wondering about dbus'es timers and suspend / boottime | 07:46 |
| tbr | there is dbus traffic, so that's alive it seems | 07:47 |
| uvatbc | Stskeeps: I'm sure it is. Is there something I should go RTFM before I bash some more on the VM I have up and running ? | 07:48 |
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| tbr | I'll leave the phone in this state and head to the office, in case someone gets better ideas. I can also offer a ssh connection to the phone for more knowledgeable debuggers | 07:48 |
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| TmpNick | Does Sailfish OS have a software repository similar to the that Ubuntu (Touch) has? | 08:48 |
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| tomyri | QMediaPlayer bugs with mp3 mono files if sample rate is 22.05kHz (mono+44.1k and stereo+22.05k works fine). It plays those files but updates position wrong and stops playing before end | 09:30 |
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| wickwire | Hi guys, I just saw an internet clip showing jolla's The Other Half being used to install a theme, and download custom apps | 10:35 |
| wickwire | is this jolla exclusive or is there any documentation on sailfishOS for cover interaction? | 10:35 |
| Waitee | yeah thats easy to implement since all the otherhalfs have an rfid sticker | 10:36 |
| wickwire | yes but is there some guide on how to deal with the triggered actions, upon cover event? | 10:37 |
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| Waitee | no there isnt | 10:38 |
| Waitee | or at least i havent heard of | 10:38 |
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| Turski | wickwire: there's tohd service on jolla, but i don't think anything is documented yet | 10:40 |
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| kaqqao | Hey all. | 10:44 |
| kaqqao | Just discovered SailfishOS and it looks like something I'd love to try out | 10:45 |
| kaqqao | but... there's no list of supported devices anywhere | 10:45 |
| kaqqao | so what kind of device would I need to run this? | 10:45 |
| Hurrian | kaqqao: Jolla or Nokia N9/50 | 10:46 |
| tbr | kaqqao: currently it runs on the Jolla device and the Nokia N9/N950 | 10:46 |
| tbr | some more Cyanogenmod 10.1+ based devices are due to be added soon™ | 10:46 |
| kengu | how well it runs on n9(/950) | 10:46 |
| kengu | not that I have any | 10:46 |
| Hurrian | tbr, would anyone be able to port Sailfish to any Cyanogenmod 10.1+ supporting device? | 10:47 |
| tbr | Hurrian: supposedly this will come as an initial push from the sailors with community taking over. Dunno. | 10:49 |
| kaqqao | Ok, thanks a bunch for the info, guys. | 10:49 |
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| TmpNick | (I have no idea how sensible this question is, but) can the software repository of Ubuntu (Touch) be utilized on the Sailfish OS? | 11:08 |
| flux | I seriously doubt it can | 11:09 |
| euroelessar | TmpNick: what exactly do you mean? | 11:09 |
| euroelessar | this systems have different graphic system (Wayland vs Mir) and different user interface components | 11:10 |
| flux | for one, Ubuntu uses apt/dpkg/deb but SailfishOS uses pkcon/rpm | 11:10 |
| flux | maybe you could find some basic binaries (ie. wget) from there, but it'd be hand-work to extract and run them. and not sure if they still would work :) | 11:11 |
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| TmpNick | euroelessar: I was just wondering whether I could somehow specify on Sailfish that I would like to use the software repository of Ubuntu and then download and install some packages. However, as 'flux' pointed out, the package managers are different, so I guess this is not an option | 11:15 |
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| TmpNick | Btw, has anyone tried to run Oracle's Java SE Embedded on a Jolla phone? | 11:24 |
| euroelessar | TmpNick: don't think so | 11:25 |
| ln- | why would anyone in their sane mind want to do that? | 11:25 |
| euroelessar | are there any /alive/ applications using Java SE Embedded? | 11:25 |
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| TmpNick | euroelessar: Not that I would know, but I have a command line program, and I'm a bit curious to see how fast it could run on a Jolla phone | 11:33 |
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| ApBbbbb | Hello. Is there a guide somewhere on how to pack an icon theme to replace the default app icons of the phone without deleting the default ones. | 12:36 |
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| euroelessar | is there any good way to "simulate" selection of the text? | 13:03 |
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| coderus | euroelessar: html tags? | 13:11 |
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| euroelessar | coderus: Qt's html components are unconvinient for EBook reader usage :( | 13:12 |
| juke_ | any ubuntu users developing with real devices? i'm wondering how did you set your network preferences to be able to use internet at the same time as staying connected to the device | 13:13 |
| euroelessar | juke_: I've just plugged device into my laptop and all 'just work' | 13:14 |
| euroelessar | the issue may be that fact that Internet is provided by wifi | 13:15 |
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| euroelessar | so jolla doesn't conflict with it | 13:15 |
| juke_ | with wifi i got it working right, but wired networks are now the issue | 13:15 |
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| juke_ | perhaps some ifconfig magic would do it | 13:16 |
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| pp_ | it tries to do networking over the usb interface? | 13:16 |
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| euroelessar | pp_: network manager activets only one ethernet connection per time | 13:16 |
| euroelessar | and jolla is just 'ethernet device' | 13:17 |
| MSameer | juke_: might be that your ethernet ip is within the usb networking block | 13:17 |
| juke_ | it doesn't do anything automatically, but when i create a new "connection" and set my ip to the same subnet as the device | 13:17 |
| juke_ | MSameer, i have public ip | 13:17 |
| pp_ | so tell NM to ignore the rndis device :-) | 13:17 |
| MSameer | i don't use network manager so I obviously don't know | 13:17 |
| juke_ | pp_, but then i can't ssh to the device :/ | 13:18 |
| pp_ | and just give it a manual 192.168.2.x address | 13:18 |
| juke_ | if i do that, i lose internet | 13:18 |
| MSameer | what's your routing table like? | 13:19 |
| MSameer | ifconfig; /sbin/route -n | 13:19 |
| MSameer | /sbin/ifconfig; /sbin/route -n | 13:20 |
| juke_ | perhaps i should create a virtual interface with ifconfig and set it the device's subnet without using NM | 13:20 |
| juke_ | aa shit, it just wasn't in developer mode :D | 13:20 |
| juke_ | nevermind | 13:21 |
| pp_ | :D | 13:21 |
| juke_ | thank you all! | 13:21 |
| euroelessar | :) | 13:21 |
| MSameer | lost my hair once over that | 13:21 |
| nahka^ | is there going to be a fix for the audio issues in recorded videos | 13:23 |
| MSameer | there will be more improvements in the next update | 13:23 |
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| artemma | kontio: ping | 14:25 |
| artemma | My app was rejected because "recently we added category of application as required", but in Harbour I see that the app category is set :/ | 14:26 |
| artemma | A bug in the harbour internal side? | 14:26 |
| kontio | artemma: the testers told me that there was not category set... for the flashlight app... I don't know... | 14:28 |
| kontio | which category did you set? | 14:28 |
| artemma | That's what the message tells indeed, I see in harbour that it is set (and it always was) | 14:28 |
| artemma | Utilities | 14:28 |
| artemma | maybe some update glitch when I replaced a binary while the old one was still in QA? | 14:29 |
| kontio | evt. I don't know... | 14:29 |
| artemma | What shall I do then? | 14:29 |
| Nicd- | flashlight is under Utilities in the store though | 14:29 |
| artemma | I sure can resubmit again, that's just one button press | 14:29 |
| kontio | resubmit and I ask them what they see, now | 14:30 |
| artemma | kontio: done, Clicked "Submit to QA", changed nothing else | 14:30 |
| kontio | artemma: guess then you have to change something... add a new line or so in changes field... | 14:31 |
| kontio | or write resubmit... | 14:31 |
| kontio | what you actually are doing... | 14:31 |
| artemma | okay, doing that | 14:32 |
| artemma | kontio: done. Added explanation about the Category to "What's new" | 14:33 |
| artemma | is it possible to maybe go around the queue then? I have next feature updates piling up already waiting for this build to pass | 14:33 |
| artemma | and some people are annoyed by that data collection, it's disabled in the submitted build | 14:34 |
| Hartzi | hmm what could be wrong if my app crashes when I try set a model for a page property(QtObject) before pushing the page into pagestack? Wrong type of a property or something? | 14:34 |
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| Hartzi | QTC doesn't give me any error message. The app just crashes. | 14:36 |
| kontio | artemma: ok the category is now set, I have no idea what went wrong... | 14:36 |
| artemma | kontio: thanks. Maybe just a temporary bug in harbour code | 14:37 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | I have a problem with store | 14:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | My app is rejected saying | 14:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | "Unfortunately I have to reject your app because you haven't select any application category." | 14:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I was sure that I picked Internet as a category | 14:42 |
| kontio | you too... | 14:42 |
| kontio | which app | 14:42 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | kontio: Friends | 14:42 |
| artemma | woohoo, Flashlight got approved! | 14:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kontio: sent a newer version with some bugfixes, don't know how this interferes | 14:43 |
| artemma | Is there some standard delay between Approved and Published nowadays? I remember it used to be quite random | 14:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | now ... grab some food ... | 14:44 |
| kontio | artemma: it used to be manual work (once or every 2nd day)... now it should do it several times a day... I don't know how often... | 14:44 |
| artemma | cool! | 14:44 |
| Nicd- | artemma: does this flashlight have home-calling? | 14:45 |
| artemma | kontio: I noticed that now I can reSubmit to QA even if the old build is already in QA. Do I reenter queue then (waiting for days again)? | 14:45 |
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| artemma | Nicd-: nope, this one got stats gathering disabled. I might reenable it later when I figure how to do it in a clear manner and non-intrusively | 14:46 |
| artemma | there's big Privacy page in the app about it now :) | 14:46 |
| Nicd- | okay, then I'll reinstall it once my store updates | 14:46 |
| kontio | artemma: I don't know... | 14:47 |
| artemma | that's sort of a double edge thing. Flashlight for me is mostly a demo of my skills (for marketing myself as a development house). So I do want to have numbers on how much app is actually used, but then due to the gathering these numbers less people use the app | 14:47 |
| artemma | shrödinger | 14:48 |
| artemma | shrödinger's stats :) | 14:48 |
| lbt | artemma: I actually think we should find a way to expose that via store | 14:48 |
| artemma | lbt: that would be good! Won't solve everything, but would solve most needed stuff | 14:48 |
| lbt | it makes sense to offer a sailfish stats lib - and if you use that then people should have no issue trusting it. | 14:48 |
| lbt | in addition we can work to tailor it for the more extreme privacy-minded customers | 14:49 |
| artemma | lbt: so you are thinking about more than just counting app starts? Cool! | 14:49 |
| lbt | and if we opensource it | 14:49 |
| artemma | But then what's the difference from sending the stats directly from app? | 14:49 |
| lbt | installs, uninstalls, reinstalls | 14:49 |
| lbt | transparency and trust | 14:49 |
| artemma | well, my Mixanel code is open source free for everybody to use (and improve), helps nothing | 14:50 |
| lbt | one thing to learn from recent high profile issues in the tech world. Telling people what you do *after* they find out themselves hurts. | 14:50 |
| lbt | missing comma :) | 14:51 |
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| artemma | lbt: or do you mean installations only reporting? I am more after app *starts* and ideally into advanced stats for AB-testing. For example next feature I plan introducing is flashlight control from app cover. It would be useful for me to know if people use this particular feature | 14:51 |
| lbt | hopefully a lesson learned, lets move on | 14:51 |
| * lbt looks at jolla's bootloader locking and grins | 14:51 | |
| artemma | yeah, I always stated that most of people don't give a shit about privacy, they hate to be surprised about it. Too bad I was too lazy to take it into account from the beginning | 14:52 |
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| lbt | https://together.jolla.com/question/10956/provide-some-basic-or-not-so-basic-app-usage-stats-for-the-developers/ | 14:52 |
| artemma | lbt: good! I submitted that actually. Awesome to know that Jolla actually does consider it! | 14:53 |
| * artemma thinks it would be cool if Together had some Jolla company-specific statuses. Like "acknowledged", "planned", "done", "oups, we changed our mind" | 14:54 | |
| Stskeeps | "damage control in 5...4...3..2..1." | 14:54 |
| lbt | indeed ... the "oh shit we never thought you'd think that" ... | 14:55 |
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| lbt | artemma: https://together.jolla.com/question/10956/provide-some-basic-or-not-so-basic-app-usage-stats-for-the-developers/#post-id-12693 | 15:02 |
| lbt | I suggest not 'accepting' it as it will close the question | 15:02 |
| artemma | just got an email notification about it :) | 15:02 |
| artemma | reading.. | 15:03 |
| artemma | thanks a lot! | 15:03 |
| artemma | lbt: as a user it would be cool for me to see (as in a log journal) the data that is actually sent, but hell knows how to make it easy yet useful | 15:04 |
| juke_ | how do i debug apps on jolla phone? is there any way to get stack trace on crash? | 15:05 |
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| flux | you can run gdb on it | 15:05 |
| juke_ | debug launching on sdk fails | 15:05 |
| juke_ | how do i install it? | 15:05 |
| flux | pkcon install gdb iirc | 15:06 |
| flux | it could be in the mer-tools repository | 15:06 |
| juke_ | thanks | 15:06 |
| artemma | juke_: somebody was telling only QML debugging works for now. I didn't make even qml debugging working | 15:06 |
| juke_ | artemma, i think that was when using the sdk | 15:06 |
| artemma | yes | 15:07 |
| flux | juke_, when you build a package it also builds the debuginfo package | 15:07 |
| flux | juke_, so you probably want to install that as well | 15:07 |
| flux | (and depending on your situation you may wish to install that for pre-existing packages with pkcon, I think that's possible) | 15:07 |
| juke_ | so in the sdk i pick debug build and now i have gdb installed. what do i need to do? | 15:08 |
| juke_ | +else | 15:08 |
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| juke_ | sorry, i'm not familiar with qt development. how do i deploy app with debug symbols? | 15:11 |
| euroelessar | are there any rules for application icons? some best practices and so on? | 15:11 |
| Hartzi | hey! what could be wrong if my app crashes when I try set a model for a page property(QtObject) before pushing the page into pagestack? Wrong type of a property or something? | 15:13 |
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| euroelessar | Hartzi: this object is still alive at crash moment? | 15:14 |
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| Hartzi | euroelessar: you're talking about that QtObject? | 15:16 |
| euroelessar | Hartzi: yes | 15:16 |
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| Hartzi | good point. I think it's created when the new page is opened | 15:17 |
| euroelessar | Hartzi: do you have a trace? | 15:17 |
| Hartzi | no | 15:17 |
| euroelessar | run application by gdb it may help you | 15:18 |
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| juke_ | why i try that, gdb tells me (no debugging symbols found) | 15:18 |
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| juke_ | do i need to add some build flags? | 15:23 |
| Hartzi | euroelessar: Do I need precreate that page before trying put something into its properties? | 15:26 |
| euroelessar | Hartzi: no, you don't need | 15:28 |
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| euroelessar | Hartzi: pageStack.push(someComponent, { model: someQtObject }) should work fine | 15:31 |
| Hartzi | euroelessar: okay I'll try that one | 15:31 |
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| Hartzi | euroelessar: and how I define the property on the opening page now? property QtObject model: something..? | 15:35 |
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| euroelessar | Hartzi: Page { property QtObject model } | 15:38 |
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| Hartzi | hmm | 15:41 |
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| Hartzi | this says that model is null :| | 15:41 |
| Hartzi | so my pageStack.push is doing something wrong? | 15:42 |
| euroelessar | Hartzi: is someQtObject before 'push' is null or not? | 15:43 |
| euroelessar | how do you check model's value? | 15:43 |
| euroelessar | in Page's Component.onCompleted? | 15:43 |
| Hartzi | euroelessar: is someQtObject obj name or obj type? | 15:44 |
| euroelessar | Hartzi: obj name you provided as model's value | 15:45 |
| Hartzi | ah | 15:45 |
| Hartzi | that was my mistake | 15:45 |
| Hartzi | now it works :) | 15:45 |
| euroelessar | ? | 15:45 |
| euroelessar | what was an error? | 15:45 |
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| Hartzi | I thought someQtObject was a type not a name | 15:45 |
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| john24 | hey guys, I've submit an update for app to the harbour but it was rejected and I am very confused why | 15:46 |
| john24 | the reply was: "App rejected Hello, recently we added category of application as required, so please resubmit your app and choose proper category in Jolla Harbour. Thank you for understanding. Br, Tomas" | 15:47 |
| john24 | anyone knows what that means? | 15:47 |
| Bysmyyr | you have to choose category again because there is more of them. | 15:48 |
| Hartzi | euroelessar: thx anyway :) | 15:49 |
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| john24 | I see well I made a Body Mass Index Calculator and before it was under utilities | 15:50 |
| john24 | what category it would be under now? because I am not sure what to pick | 15:50 |
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| juke_ | any ideas at which stage the app binary is stripped? | 15:56 |
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| mfulz | how long does it take normally to get an answer to bug reports in tjc? | 15:58 |
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| mfulz | sorry ignore that - wrong channel | 16:00 |
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| kaltsi | john24: I hear there's some harbour server related issue with the category that appeared today.. the cause is not known yet, resubmitting your app with Utilities category may/may not help | 16:02 |
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| kaltsi | juke_: app binary is stripped during rpmbuild by the /usr/lib/rpm/find-debuginfo.sh script, which extracts the debug symbols to their own package | 16:04 |
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| juke_ | ok, how do i deploy that to device? | 16:05 |
| kaltsi | manually any way you choose | 16:05 |
| kaltsi | for example with scp | 16:05 |
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| john24 | well it was rejected from unitlities so I guess i'll just wait for them to fix this | 16:06 |
| juke_ | kaltsi, i think i need a little more to go on | 16:06 |
| kaltsi | juke_: you will need to access the device with ssh and scp.. | 16:06 |
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| juke_ | sure, where's the package? | 16:07 |
| kaltsi | juke_: what environment do you have? linux/win/mac | 16:07 |
| juke_ | linux | 16:07 |
| kaltsi | ok.. your project dir is somewhere.. on that same level there's a dir: build-projectname-blablabla .. under that is RPMS directory and the created rpm packages are there | 16:07 |
| juke_ | ok found it | 16:07 |
| juke_ | can this be added as a deploy step in the sdk? | 16:08 |
| kaltsi | there should be a *-debuginfo-* | 16:08 |
| kaltsi | there's no easy way to add it as a deploy step now | 16:09 |
| juke_ | :D | 16:09 |
| kaltsi | but wait a sec.. | 16:10 |
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| kaltsi | ok it's possible to build the binary so it's not stripped | 16:11 |
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| kaltsi | if you want to do that, open your project's *.spec file.. it's under the rpm/ directory | 16:11 |
| kaltsi | near the top of the file there are a couple lines starting with # >> macros | 16:12 |
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| kaltsi | after the # >> macros line add: | 16:12 |
| kaltsi | %define debug_package %{nil} | 16:12 |
| kaltsi | then you can save it and rebuild your project, no debuginfo package is created and the binary stays unstripped | 16:13 |
| juke_ | thanks, i'll try that | 16:13 |
| juke_ | kaltsi, that did the trick, thank you very much! | 16:15 |
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| kaltsi | great, yw | 16:16 |
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| juke_ | how do i add resource files to be deployed? | 16:43 |
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| juke_ | i guess it's easiest to put in qml dir | 16:49 |
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| walokra | good reason to browse imgur (if it even needs reason): testing your app :) | 16:59 |
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| coderus | juke_: add to INSTALLS in pro file | 17:50 |
| juke_ | thanks! | 17:51 |
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| Guest78962 | Hi, I want to send tweets from my application. I've done it on Android using Twitter4J. What should I use in sailfishOS? | 18:36 |
| Waitee | tweetian | 18:36 |
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| Waitee | oh from your application | 18:37 |
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| Waitee | no idea | 18:37 |
| Waitee | lol | 18:37 |
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| Guest78962 | I've searched on twitter dev page. I've found this https://github.com/pipacs/o2 but I didn't find any guide to use it with QML... | 18:39 |
| hoelzro | what's the recommended way to create a grid of buttons? If I use the Silica button component, they're too big (max 2 fit on a screen, iirc) | 18:39 |
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| coderus | Waitee: search for twitter4qml project. | 19:03 |
| coderus | sorry | 19:03 |
| coderus | Guest78962: it was for you | 19:03 |
| coderus | btw, please set proper nickname | 19:03 |
| coderus | hoelzro: every item have width and height | 19:03 |
| hoelzro | coderus: so if I do Button { width: 50 }... | 19:04 |
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| hoelzro | ...that'll override what's in Button's definition? | 19:04 |
| coderus | Hartzi: btw, what the purpose of buttons grid? maybe better to create own graphics? | 19:04 |
| coderus | holkeri: of course :) | 19:04 |
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| Hartzi | coderus: wut? | 19:05 |
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| Guest78962 | coderus: thanks! I don't use chat often, now I'm gonna read how to register a nickname :D Thanks for the answer, tonight I'll watch it :) | 19:10 |
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| Waitee | &cr | 19:12 |
| Waitee | damn | 19:12 |
| Waitee | / and & too close to each other | 19:12 |
| coderus | Hartzi: sorry =( | 19:14 |
| coderus | too many nicks around | 19:14 |
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| Hartzi | coderus: ok :D | 19:24 |
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| hoelzro | do anchors work differently on sailfish than the desktop? if I create a simple Rectangle with anchors.fill: parent, it doesn't show up anywhere | 19:35 |
| suy | hoelzro: and who is the parent of the rectangle? | 19:38 |
| hoelzro | a SilicaFlickable | 19:38 |
| coderus | and what geometry of this flickable? | 19:42 |
| hoelzro | I nested it in a Page, and told it anchors.fill: parent | 19:42 |
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| hoelzro | ugh | 19:43 |
| hoelzro | I figured it out =/ | 19:43 |
| hoelzro | it's because I cargo culted something I didn't understand =( | 19:43 |
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| walokra | when installing your own rpm by copying it to jolla and opening it and it goes to jolla store app, shouldn't it show the correct name and icon from .desktop file? | 19:45 |
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| hoelzro | hmm, does using "transparent" as a color for a Rectangle not work on Sailfish? | 20:09 |
| hoelzro | when I try it, they are painted white | 20:09 |
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| coderus | hoelzro: "transparent" | 20:11 |
| coderus | working | 20:11 |
| seiichiro0185 | hi there, quick qml programming question: I have a list model with an attribute "fav" which can be either 0 or 1, and a switch inside a listview which is tied to this attribute. when I change the "fav" value programatically the switch changes for the first try, but not for subsequent changes to the model | 20:11 |
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| seiichiro0185 | any idea what might be going wrong? | 20:11 |
| coderus | seiichiro0185: you maybe need to change model property when switching? | 20:12 |
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| hoelzro | hmm | 20:12 |
| coderus | ah | 20:12 |
| hoelzro | ok, my standalone example works =/ | 20:12 |
| coderus | you losing bindings when manually switching | 20:12 |
| seiichiro0185 | what I'm trying to do is to switch off all switches in the list except the one which was just switched on | 20:14 |
| coderus | seiichiro0185: implementing radio button group? | 20:14 |
| coderus | is it suitable for listmodel? | 20:15 |
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| seiichiro0185 | coderus: essentially yes, I have a list of items, and I want to mark one as favourite with the switch | 20:15 |
| hoelzro | ah, I think I figured it out | 20:15 |
| hoelzro | yup | 20:16 |
| hoelzro | I had a white rectangle under the transparent one =/ | 20:16 |
| coderus | only single item can be faved? | 20:16 |
| hoelzro | ugh | 20:16 |
| seiichiro0185 | so I need to have some kind of radio group functionality for a switch inside a listview | 20:16 |
| seiichiro0185 | coderus: yes | 20:16 |
| coderus | seiichiro0185: then dont keep it in model. make property int fav: -1 | 20:17 |
| coderus | and save there faved index | 20:17 |
| coderus | and highlight fav item by comparing index == fav | 20:17 |
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| seiichiro0185 | coderus: hm ok, that might be worth a try. I have it in model since it is also stored in the LocalStorage DB, which is used to fill the model | 20:19 |
| coderus | sure, keep it in db and load at first time and then keep in global property, and write back | 20:20 |
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| seiichiro0185 | coderus: thanks, I'll try :) | 20:21 |
| mikma | coderus: has someone ever told you anything about screen staying on after starting mitäkuuluu? | 20:21 |
| coderus | mikma: what you mean? | 20:21 |
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| mikma | coderus: for some reason, the screen refuses to turn off, it just stays on if i'm located somewhere else than the lock screen (5sec rule) | 20:22 |
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| coderus | mikma: no, it cant be caused mitakuuluu :) | 20:26 |
| mikma | coderus: okidoki :) | 20:26 |
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| mikma | coderus: i was just thinking that it could be toh+store+ some application combined, but can't locate the cause. that has happened twice now | 20:28 |
| mikma | coderus: tohd.service has been masked and stopped | 20:28 |
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| slate | coderus: Can i make my own mods to language-files? I want to change some of the words in finnish translation of mitäkuuluu | 21:06 |
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| coderus | slate: translation is bad? | 21:09 |
| coderus | i can give you coordinator role if Penguin can't manage translation properly | 21:10 |
| slate | "Kirjautuneena" is too long to fit the cover nicely | 21:10 |
| slate | "Kirjautunut" would fit better | 21:11 |
| Waitee | or just "Online" | 21:11 |
| Waitee | finnish people using whatsapp already know what it means | 21:11 |
| mikma | exactly | 21:12 |
| mikma | pretty much anyone with internet knows online... | 21:13 |
| coderus | slate: you can create fi_FI translation, i think it supported | 21:13 |
| mikma | "ootsä onlinessä"? | 21:13 |
| celeron55 | i think reverting to english like that is lame | 21:13 |
| celeron55 | if someone wants to see english, they'll use the english version | 21:13 |
| Waitee | true | 21:13 |
| Waitee | but since its whatsapp does it even have to tell you if it's signed in? | 21:14 |
| Waitee | because default is it's connected | 21:14 |
| coderus | btw, do you want to have appname on launcher translated to locale language? | 21:14 |
| slate | I live with a teacher who wants my finnish to be perfect without any finglish.. :P | 21:14 |
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| Waitee | finglish is fine | 21:15 |
| coderus | Waitee: connected means socket connected to server, but not logged in yed. | 21:15 |
| Waitee | we have this lecturer who talks about internet or web as "seitti" which is literally web in finnish | 21:15 |
| celeron55 | one short word that could mean the same is "sisällä"; altough it's a bit different | 21:15 |
| celeron55 | it's very finnish though | 21:15 |
| mikma | waitee: "interseitissä oli hassu kissavideo" | 21:16 |
| Waitee | coderus: end user doesnt have to know of the inner workings | 21:16 |
| Waitee | mikma: "seittiselain lataa sivulta keksin" | 21:16 |
| mikma | aahahaha | 21:16 |
| coderus | Waitee: once he see logged in after connected will understand :) | 21:16 |
| slate | coderus: imo no need for the appname to change with locale | 21:17 |
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| Waitee | coderus: default teenager is not interested in network technology, he just wants to know the wifi password and send a bunch of swaggy words to his friends yolo | 21:18 |
| slate | with an iphone | 21:18 |
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| Waitee | the app could inform you with a notification if it gets disconnected however | 21:18 |
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| coderus | Waitee: good idea, create issue please :) | 21:19 |
| Waitee | do you have a bugtracker or something? | 21:19 |
| slate | With current sailfish-build I get frequent disconnects from network. handovers from wifi to 3g arent perfect. Also the whole gui hangs but theres a bugreport on that one i guess. | 21:20 |
| coderus | users dont read app description and details, weird :( | 21:20 |
| coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu | 21:20 |
| Waitee | it happens coderus :D | 21:21 |
| raa70 | coderus: you should fake them as messages, then maybe | 21:22 |
| Waitee | hmm | 21:22 |
| Waitee | cant register to tmo | 21:22 |
| Waitee | "you have left a required field blank" | 21:23 |
| raa70 | adblock blocking captcha? | 21:23 |
| coderus | raa70: what are you talking about& | 21:23 |
| coderus | ? | 21:23 |
| raa70 | the app description and details | 21:24 |
| raa70 | if you fake them as messages in mitäkuuluu then some1 might read those | 21:24 |
| coderus | :D | 21:25 |
| coderus | i dont like this | 21:25 |
| coderus | well, not just users | 21:25 |
| coderus | users in #sfos irc :D | 21:25 |
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| Waitee | hmm disabling adblock helped | 21:25 |
| Waitee | lol nice spam check | 21:27 |
| Waitee | "What is the square root of sixty four?" | 21:27 |
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| Waitee | prevents annoying 12 year olds from joining the forums somewhat | 21:28 |
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| raa70 | until annoying 12 year olds learn to use google | 21:29 |
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| Eztran | If they could Google for their problems, they'd be less annoying. | 21:29 |
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| coderus | Waitee: not really | 21:29 |
| coderus | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=square+root+of+sixty+four&l=1 | 21:29 |
| mikma | implement the leisure suit larry ageverification | 21:29 |
| mikma | hard questions about history etc :D | 21:29 |
| mikma | ctrl+alt+x | 21:29 |
| mikma | CHEATER CHEATER! ok, since it's you... | 21:29 |
| raa70 | those questions were hard... in elementary school, before learning english | 21:30 |
| Waitee | coderus: somewhat at least | 21:30 |
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| mikma | raa70: that's the whole idea! go ahead and try the questions in the classic version. they are still hard :) | 21:31 |
| mikma | and the ones in the remake are hard too, but a tad easier because they are closer in time than the classic version questions | 21:32 |
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| Waitee | coderus: what was it what i was gonna write an issue about? | 21:34 |
| coderus | Waitee: feature request for showing notifications when disconnected | 21:34 |
| coderus | and maybe when connected too | 21:35 |
| coderus | i'll add settings switch for that asap | 21:35 |
| Waitee | oh yea | 21:35 |
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| artemma | Stskeeps: sent reproducable crash report to you | 21:42 |
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| walokra | if my app crashes on phone, can i see somewhere what happened? | 21:48 |
| coderus | walokra: first start app in terminal and look | 21:49 |
| walokra | ha, didn't know that | 21:50 |
| walokra | at least loading bunch of anim. gifs and playing them automatically isn't good | 21:51 |
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| zuh | walokra: 'journalctl -a yourapp-binary' in root shell shows about the same | 21:56 |
| zuh | that you see when launching from terminal | 21:56 |
| walokra | no wonder it didn't work as i tried that with nemo user | 21:57 |
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| * artemma experiences rendering issues if app *starts* while screen is locked (happens when starting from creator) | 22:03 | |
| artemma | like Image source changes (verified in logs), but not its rendering on screen | 22:03 |
| artemma | I guess I ignore it as normal user will never have such situation, but it's strange | 22:03 |
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| M4rtinK | If I counted the "this can't ever happen" error messages I've seen... :) | 22:19 |
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