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| artemma_ | kontio: ping | 00:28 |
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| artemma_ | MSameer: ping | 00:28 |
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| artemma_ | has anybody ever gotten reply from developer-care? My app was rejected due to bad interoperability with the other apps and I think I have a good bug report to do | 00:42 |
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| MSameer | artemma_: pong | 01:04 |
| MSameer | artemma_: which app and what bug report? | 01:05 |
| artemma_ | MSameer: flashlight with app cover control, got rejected for not good interoperability with the camera app | 01:05 |
| MSameer | yes | 01:05 |
| MSameer | there is a bug about that | 01:05 |
| artemma_ | basically if flashlight is on, viewfinder shows nothing and there's no reaction to shutter button | 01:05 |
| MSameer | crao | 01:05 |
| MSameer | crap | 01:05 |
| MSameer | that's another issue | 01:05 |
| artemma_ | uhmm.. I think that's an evolution of the old bug. Old one was about crashing the whole phone | 01:05 |
| artemma_ | and this one I think is more about the camera | 01:06 |
| MSameer | i am not sure about the status of both as i am on vacation | 01:06 |
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| artemma_ | you know, if camera fails to acquire resource, it could still be responsive, just show sane warning message | 01:06 |
| artemma_ | after all camera is indeed taken | 01:06 |
| artemma_ | though Instagram and Camera app manage to share somehow.. | 01:07 |
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| MSameer | i really don't know what to say. I believe in what you say but i am not the guy doing camera or even MW | 01:07 |
| artemma | MSameer:I think I will still try to convince harbour that it's alright. Questions are two: 1) who can I try to concince ( kontio?) and 2) how do I make a bug report (I have it clear and reproduceable) | 01:08 |
| MSameer | artemma: kontio? i don't know but you can always post @ together.j.c and tag as bug | 01:08 |
| MSameer | artemma: just a sec | 01:09 |
| artemma | a very technical bug report to together.. | 01:09 |
| artemma | kontio seems to help on conversations with the harbour-specific issues | 01:09 |
| artemma | it's a pity developer-care never replies | 01:09 |
| MSameer | artemma: so do you have steps to reproduce? | 01:10 |
| MSameer | libresourceqt-qt5-client can help | 01:10 |
| artemma | MSameer: yep, just launch that gst-launch you proposed in console, then start camera and try taking a photo | 01:10 |
| MSameer | 1) launch jolla camera | 01:10 |
| artemma | it doesn't react to shutter button and (often) is slow too | 01:11 |
| MSameer | 2) from ssh: resourceqt5-client camera VideoPlayback | 01:11 |
| MSameer | type acquire and hit enter | 01:11 |
| MSameer | --> jolla camera viewfinder shows black and capture buton dimmed | 01:11 |
| MSameer | artemma: don't rule out a bug in qtmultimedia | 01:11 |
| artemma | you mean in conflict situation, i.e. when flashlight is already running | 01:11 |
| artemma | sure, I have little idea on where bug actually is | 01:12 |
| MSameer | artemma: where? | 01:12 |
| artemma | but hey, if you are on vacation, I don't want to interrupt you? | 01:12 |
| artemma | but hey, if you are on vacation, I don't want to interrupt you | 01:12 |
| artemma | question was about what's the good channel for reporting/discussion | 01:12 |
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| MSameer | i won't help much but your report might help me to wake up some people | 01:12 |
| MSameer | artemma: and I cannot say more than that really ;) | 01:13 |
| artemma | uhmm, then how do I make a report? | 01:13 |
| MSameer | artemma: treat together as bugzilla (just add bug tag) | 01:13 |
| * artemma sorta hesitates to file it on together - that's more of an opinion and non-tech report forum.. | 01:13 | |
| MSameer | artemma: there are bugs already reported there | 01:13 |
| MSameer | that is the correct place AFAICT | 01:14 |
| artemma | okay, maybe I am not much into sharing gst details.. though it's not secret anyway | 01:14 |
| artemma | okay, you are correct, I'll try filing to together, let's see how it goes. At least you'll have a link to refer to | 01:15 |
| MSameer | exactly | 01:15 |
| MSameer | and please ping me back with the link | 01:15 |
| artemma | it's a pity developer-care never replies, /me feels like it's appropriate topic for that channel | 01:15 |
| MSameer | i will eventually find it but its easier to be pinged :D | 01:16 |
| artemma | gut@ | 01:16 |
| artemma | gut! | 01:16 |
| MSameer | i can check with developer care after I fly back to helsinki | 01:16 |
| artemma | thanks a lot | 01:16 |
| MSameer | you just need to remind me :D | 01:16 |
| artemma | on whichever channel you prefer | 01:17 |
| MSameer | here is fine | 01:17 |
| artemma | trying your camera command line together with flashlight now. Not sure what I am supposed to check/see though | 01:17 |
| MSameer | take care you might crash your device | 01:18 |
| MSameer | artemma: try flash light app with jolla camera | 01:19 |
| MSameer | you can launch both via ssh | 01:19 |
| artemma | MSameer: BTW, you may like to give Flashlight 2.2 a try anyway. Switching light from cover feels totally magical to be http://bit.ly/flashlight22 | 01:19 |
| artemma | though sure I am biased : | 01:19 |
| artemma | ) | 01:19 |
| MSameer | just export export QT_GSTREAMER_CAMERABIN_SRC=droidcamsrc | 01:19 |
| MSameer | switching light from cover is a cool feature | 01:20 |
| artemma | uhm.. what would export do? why? | 01:20 |
| artemma | funny, I seem to be unable to start two ssh consoles to same device | 01:21 |
| artemma | permission denied | 01:21 |
| MSameer | i reproduced your issue | 01:21 |
| artemma | hmm.. if I can't use two consoles, I can probably detach gst-launch from console and then start camera.. | 01:23 |
| artemma | but I don't remember how to do it | 01:23 |
| MSameer | artemma: launch camera; minimize; launch flash light; switch on light; minimze; maximize camera -> boom | 01:23 |
| MSameer | gst-launch ... & | 01:23 |
| artemma | MSameer: ah, sequence for reproduction I can write you no problem | 01:23 |
| MSameer | i ssh twice and it works | 01:23 |
| artemma | you already did it | 01:23 |
| artemma | for debugging clarity, you can replace flashlight start with that gst-launch string as it's what actually is happening | 01:24 |
| MSameer | no | 01:24 |
| MSameer | flash light should be using policy engine | 01:24 |
| MSameer | so they are not the same | 01:24 |
| artemma | MSameer: it possibly should, but it doesn't :) | 01:24 |
| MSameer | artemma: there you go | 01:25 |
| MSameer | you know the bug now | 01:25 |
| artemma | oh.. so that's what's happening.. hmm.. interesting | 01:25 |
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| MSameer | if you don't use policy engine and you insist on not using it then I will ask kontio to reject your app | 01:25 |
| * artemma doesn't know much about policy engines | 01:25 | |
| MSameer | it's libresourceqt from harmattan | 01:25 |
| MSameer | but i gtg now | 01:25 |
| artemma | okay, the area to learn then | 01:26 |
| artemma | MSameer: thanks for the advices | 01:26 |
| * artemma still feels like camera should not become unresponsive when it can't grab the resource, but in this particular case proper use of gstreamer would be good enough solution probably | 01:27 | |
| * artemma will think if learning resource policty and proper gstreamer use/linking is faster then just waiting for Torch support in Qt Multimedia | 01:28 | |
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| MSameer | artemma: that is not the issue | 01:51 |
| artemma | ? | 01:51 |
| MSameer | artemma: the issue is camera gets the resources but another app is using the device | 01:51 |
| MSameer | but if you use policy properly then camera will behave and your app will behave | 01:52 |
| artemma | yes, I get it. Another app should release the device, that's fine. Still camera app shouldn't be non-responsive when it fails to grab the device | 01:52 |
| MSameer | artemma: and i am surprised that store did not reject flashlight eventhough it uses gst directly | 01:52 |
| MSameer | artemma: that is true | 01:52 |
| artemma | well, the published app does release the device, just does it manually :) | 01:53 |
| artemma | whenever app is minimized | 01:53 |
| MSameer | the one you gave me keeps the light on when minimized | 01:54 |
| MSameer | which means it does not stop the pipeline | 01:54 |
| artemma | in general I need to learn this area indeed | 01:54 |
| artemma | MSameer: one I gave you is the rejected one :) | 01:54 |
| MSameer | i am telling you why :) | 01:54 |
| artemma | I am personally still going to use it and to recommend it to whoever can learn not to use it together with camera | 01:54 |
| MSameer | so I agree with kontio here and he did the right thing :) | 01:54 |
| MSameer | do what you want. I cannot prevent you from doing it | 01:55 |
| artemma | for random app store visitor I need to learn resource policy and probably link to gstreamer for releasing cover control to random public | 01:55 |
| MSameer | resource policy is a must for any multimedia app | 01:56 |
| MSameer | video decoding, playback, camera, ... | 01:56 |
| artemma | MSameer: thanks for advices, I understood what happens and got hints on how to fix it. I can also see that in the current shape flashlighting when app is minimized is not good for general app store user | 01:56 |
| MSameer | the phone has limited resources and we need to arbitrate access | 01:56 |
| artemma | well, in the bright future, I will just ask Qt Multimedia for torch and that's it | 01:57 |
| MSameer | good luck :) | 01:57 |
| MSameer | i gtg sleep | 01:57 |
| MSameer | wake you call at 8:30 :( | 01:57 |
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| * artemma is eager to be on the front edge of possibilities and is bearing the consequences, that's okay | 01:57 | |
| MSameer | it's now 4 | 01:57 |
| artemma | thanks a lot again, 4 at my place as well :) | 01:57 |
| MSameer | glad to be of help | 01:57 |
| MSameer | cya! | 01:58 |
| * artemma learned about how to link in his own lib lately and it works. Linking in gstreamer would be some next step | 01:58 | |
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| attah | Total noob here.. I want to display my music library in an app, how would I do that? If i understand correctly, Document Gallery is not ok for the store.. | 10:24 |
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| situ | Anybody doing builds for Sailfish on mer project ? What build target should I choose ? | 10:44 |
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| situ | on mer project's OBS * | 10:45 |
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| ln- | can harbour apps be apps that run in terminal? | 11:18 |
| attah | yes | 11:19 |
| mikma | i guess you will need to run the terminal as normal user without developer mode before? | 11:19 |
| attah | or i assume you mean started from.. | 11:19 |
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| ln- | actually i mean can they be apps that are started from an icon in the launcher, and they launch a text-mode program in the terminal. | 11:20 |
| attah | oh.. not sure if it's allowed.. but fingerterm has a switch for that | 11:21 |
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| mikma | ln-: well see if you can run the terminal without developer mode first :) | 11:22 |
| ln- | mikma: apparently not because the terminal got removed by disabling developer mode. but that's not necessarily equivalent to the answer to my question. | 11:25 |
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| mikma | ln-: but you can draw a conclusion from the result :) | 11:27 |
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| ln- | mikma: on N9 (which is a different product from different company, i know) there is irssi on the store, and it runs in terminal, yet i don't suppose it requires developer mode. | 11:29 |
| Jonni | ln-: terminal apps currently go to openrepos as harbour doesnt allow terminal without developer-mode. | 11:34 |
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| ln- | Jonni: okay, thanks. not that i would have immediate need for text-mode harbour apps, i was just pondering the idea of having an advanced email client -- i.e. Alpine. | 11:38 |
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| tbr | Jonni: openrepos? why not chum, that way they can be rebuilt against newer releases automatically | 11:47 |
| coderus | Jonni: Harbour switch for showing terminal applications only with developer mode active? :) | 11:49 |
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| Jonni | interesting idea, but it might take a while before store backend and qa rules would be changed. Most likely warehouse app will get stable before that. | 12:01 |
| tbr | what's that warehouse app? | 12:01 |
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| Jonni | tbr: https://openrepos.net/content/basil/warehouse | 12:02 |
| * tbr wonders what is the raison d'etre for openrepos on sailfish | 12:04 | |
| tbr | because there _is_ a working OBS with a sailfish target | 12:05 |
| Jonni | well yes obs would be good alternative too, but maybe people just havent found it yet, or it hasnt been advertized in tmo | 12:05 |
| tbr | also a major risk I see with openrepos is that it seems to accept RPMs instead of building aps → you have no idea how it was created | 12:06 |
| * tbr prefers open source | 12:06 | |
| fk_lx | tbr: the thing is people are misinformed | 12:07 |
| tbr | fk_lx: then let's inform them | 12:07 |
| tbr | I've been loud about Chum, but nobody seems to listen | 12:07 |
| fk_lx | tbr: that's also the reason many are happy with Android on mobile devices as it is Linux (they don't bother in going into details what kind of Linux it really is) | 12:08 |
| tbr | fk_lx: that's a completely separate train of thought | 12:08 |
| Jonni | tbr: is there any tmo posts about Chum? | 12:08 |
| fk_lx | tbr: people just don't do dig into details of things | 12:08 |
| tbr | Jonni: no idea, I don't do that troll-community | 12:08 |
| fk_lx | tbr: not only trolls there | 12:09 |
| fk_lx | tbr: be fair | 12:09 |
| tbr | enough trolls to trigger my HARD ignore | 12:09 |
| Jonni | tbr: well I havent heard about Chum before today, so clearly I dont read the forums where you have advertised it :) | 12:09 |
| fk_lx | I am also not using TMO, but there are many valuable people there and some of the ideas emerged there | 12:09 |
| tbr | Jonni: you're here and i've also put it on twitter and mentioned it during events | 12:09 |
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| Jonni | I dont use twitter :) | 12:10 |
| mikma | usually talking about something might not raise enough attention for people to notice it | 12:10 |
| tbr | fk_lx: tmo is tainted and I _really_ wonder why jolla has made the hare-brained decision to go there instead of pulling up something new and inviting people there | 12:10 |
| fk_lx | tbr: wrong timing, you were too quite when openrepos launched, now it's a bit like talking to the wall ;-) | 12:11 |
| fk_lx | *quiet | 12:11 |
| Jonni | tbr: actually you should make an entry in together.jolla.com that might raise awarness. | 12:11 |
| tbr | fk_lx: while I was given admin on chum, it shouldn't be _just_ me driving this. I expected Jolla as the org behind this to actually push this too, but it seems they don't care | 12:12 |
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| Jonni | they care, but quite many sailors are a bit overloaded to get involved in all interesting areas. | 12:14 |
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| ln- | coderus: it's a bit boring assumption that all text-mode apps would automatically be only interesting to developers and other people who risk their warranty by enabling dev mode. | 12:19 |
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| coderus | tbr: because many peoples dont want to use OBS | 12:25 |
| coderus | and openrepos have Store-like Warehouse | 12:26 |
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| coderus | ln-: you think only devs using developer mode? :) | 12:27 |
| tbr | coderus: so many people want to do closed source apps then on an _open_ repo? | 12:27 |
| ln- | coderus: i don't, but i think many people are forced to enable developer mode for technical reasons even though they never intend to do anything that would require developerish access to the phone per se. | 12:29 |
| coderus | tbr: i see your position, and dont want to comment anything | 12:29 |
| coderus | tbr: we will have QA and moderators on openrepos soon :) | 12:30 |
| Yaniel | ln-: you don't risk your warranty bu _enabling_ dev mode, technically speaking | 12:30 |
| Yaniel | but by doing stuff with it ^^ | 12:30 |
| joonahoi | i actually tried googling up chum with no success, after reading backlog | 12:30 |
| joonahoi | where can i find information about it? | 12:30 |
| Yaniel | build.merproject.org | 12:30 |
| tbr | coderus: I believe moving the sailfish part of open repos to OBS would be a far better move than putting up with patchwork measures | 12:30 |
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| alight | 2nd that. only found http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chum | 12:31 |
| tbr | coderus: also it requires every developer to update their app for a new OS update, something that would happen automatically on OBS | 12:31 |
| alight | guess that's not it | 12:31 |
| tbr | https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=sailfishos%3Achum%3A1.0.2.5 | 12:31 |
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| coderus | tbr: openrepos is not obs replacement, its Store replacement | 12:33 |
| coderus | it will be good to have sailfish app like meecatalog, but better than meecatalog | 12:34 |
| coderus | then obs will alive :) | 12:34 |
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| tbr | coderus: I believe that it would be sensible to use the already established and tested automation of OBS for the benefit of an open source apps community. I don't care how it's called open repos, chum, whatever, but allowing random uploads of RPMs for which not even sources might be available or were put together 'somehow' is not going to lead to quality | 12:39 |
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| Morpog_PC | coderus, seen this emoji keyboard input work? https://twitter.com/JanneEdelman/status/421450065677283328/photo/1 | 12:48 |
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| attah | Does anyone know where i should look for a music library/gallery API, or is it not for public use yet? | 13:05 |
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| MMori | Hi, could anyone confirm if using camera through Mobility package should work already in my app? | 13:12 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC: yes, its weird :D | 13:36 |
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| clau | coderus, regarding mitakuuluu... I swiched the sim card and I noticed it continues working with the old account / phone number. is it possible to update it without losing the existing chat history? | 14:04 |
| clau | or anyone else? I see coderus is away. | 14:06 |
| Yaniel | he'll be back before long | 14:06 |
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| clau | I won't be here for long though, but I'll ping him next time I see him active. | 14:07 |
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| Hartzi | :-1: error: MerSDK: Timeout waiting for reply from server. | 15:02 |
| Hartzi | wut | 15:02 |
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| coderus | clau: what you mean by update? | 15:13 |
| coderus | and yes, its not stricted to your sim card | 15:13 |
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| coderus | where to dig to make Share menu integration? | 15:14 |
| coderus | and Transfers too | 15:14 |
| Tumeez | coderus MitäKuuluu freezing my phone yesterday | 15:14 |
| coderus | Tumeez: its cold in russia, i'm sending some to all Mitakuuluu users :) | 15:15 |
| Tumeez | I was writing a message. Mitäkuuluu freezing.. I close MitäKuuluu, then my phone freezing.. | 15:16 |
| coderus | Tumeez: so then maybe your phone freezed, not Mitakuuluu? :) | 15:16 |
| Tumeez | phone started working only when someone sent message to MitäKuuluu? | 15:16 |
| Tumeez | Now it's work ok | 15:17 |
| coderus | can you repeat this? | 15:17 |
| Tumeez | No. | 15:17 |
| Tumeez | I take video | 15:17 |
| coderus | i dont need video | 15:17 |
| coderus | i need step-by-step reproduction and logs :) | 15:17 |
| coderus | if you cant reproduce it then its not a bug | 15:17 |
| Tumeez | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGY5LH3P_Xs | 15:17 |
| coderus | looks like compositor crashed | 15:18 |
| coderus | it crashing sometimes when showing notifications | 15:18 |
| Tumeez | coderus I don't know why MitäKuuluu freezing my phone... I can't explain this | 15:18 |
| coderus | it can be any notification by any application | 15:18 |
| Tumeez | Yes, takes notification pulley o.o | 15:19 |
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| coderus | by notifications i mean system popup notifications showing in events view | 15:19 |
| coderus | sounds and vibra is not notifications | 15:19 |
| coderus | its called "feedback" | 15:20 |
| Tumeez | I watched closely and it was Notifications pulley menu | 15:20 |
| coderus | how? | 15:21 |
| Tumeez | I don't know how it's possible.. Notifications pulley menu in lock screen... | 15:22 |
| Tumeez | It's strange | 15:22 |
| coderus | your compositor crashed as i said ;) | 15:22 |
| coderus | imho | 15:22 |
| coderus | its not "freeze" | 15:22 |
| coderus | its system crash | 15:23 |
| coderus | you should check system journal for crash details | 15:23 |
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| coderus | but you blaming 3rd patry application for it | 15:23 |
| Tumeez | What command i take log files? | 15:24 |
| coderus | journalctl | 15:25 |
| Tumeez | any parameters? | 15:25 |
| coderus | QImage transformation erasing exif data? really? oh... :( | 15:25 |
| coderus | none of you should use | 15:26 |
| coderus | just start it from root user to get all logs | 15:26 |
| Tumeez | uptime says | 15:28 |
| Tumeez | 17:27:50 up 9 days, 1:34, 1 user, load average: 1.35, 1.28, 0.68 | 15:28 |
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| John24 | hello guys :) | 15:28 |
| Tumeez | I try take logfile yesterday, but file is empty | 15:29 |
| Tumeez | Logs begin at Sat, 11 Jan 2014 16:07:32 +0200, end at Sat, 11 Jan 2014 16:07:32 +0200. | 15:29 |
| John24 | anyone got knowledge of reading from .xml file in qml? | 15:29 |
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| user135 | Hi, how does sailfish run android apps? | 15:33 |
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| coderus | user135: click - run android app | 15:35 |
| coderus | user135: or what delails you need? | 15:35 |
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| user135 | I mean is the code open source? | 15:35 |
| coderus | Tumeez: journal keep only 1M of logs | 15:35 |
| user135 | I'm just checking if it uses alien dalvik or ACL. | 15:36 |
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| user135 | Or ... what? | 15:37 |
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| Sidde | user135: alien dalvik is used i think | 15:37 |
| coderus | user135: dalvik | 15:37 |
| coderus | user135: Myraid created own subsystem for Sailfish Jolla | 15:37 |
| user135 | Oh, so it's closed source. | 15:38 |
| coderus | yes | 15:38 |
| coderus | completely closed | 15:38 |
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| user135 | okay, back to work I go then. | 15:38 |
| user135 | thanks. | 15:38 |
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| coderus | :) | 15:39 |
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| John24 | how would you get an xml file using XMLHttpRequest()? | 15:42 |
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| Hartzi | wtf is this: QML Row: Cannot specify left, right, horizontalCenter, fill or centerIn anchors for items inside Row. Row will not function. | 15:48 |
| coderus | it means exactly what described in message | 15:49 |
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| Hartzi | so I can't anchor anything inside row or am I just doing it wrong somehow? | 15:51 |
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| coderus | you cant anchor horizontal properties | 15:52 |
| coderus | you can anchor vertical | 15:53 |
| coderus | row anchoring all items itself horizontally | 15:53 |
| coderus | its what row was designed for | 15:53 |
| coderus | and column anchoring vertical | 15:53 |
| Hartzi | ok | 15:55 |
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| John24 | how to install QtQuick.XmlListModel ? | 15:56 |
| John24 | when I import it I get "QtQuick.XmlListModel" is not installed import QtQuick.XmlListModel 2.0 | 15:56 |
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| suy | John24: qt5-qtdeclarative-import-xmllistmodel | 16:14 |
| suy | seems like it, at least | 16:14 |
| suy | John24: Just go to the "SailfishOS" mode in Creator, and search for packages to install | 16:14 |
| John24 | ok downloading now :) | 16:15 |
| Elleo | John24: you'll probably have to bundle it with your app if you want to get into the harbour, since it's likely to get rejected as an unapproved dependency | 16:18 |
| John24 | I thouhgh it was part of the OS? | 16:19 |
| Elleo | John24: if you're having to depend on a separate package like qt5-qtdeclarative-import-xmllistmodel then it's not | 16:20 |
| John24 | I see well first of all I need to get this code working, if I can't I won't use it. | 16:20 |
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| Elleo | John24: if you're just wanting to parse an xmlhttprequest into a list model then its quite easy (and more flexible) to do yourself: https://gitorious.org/foocorp/gnu-fm/source/0d55bcbd8c77751e3890e606fb5a296ad922a917:clients/sailfish/qml/pages/RadioPage.qml#L191 as an example | 16:22 |
| Elleo | (where "playlist" is just a ListModel declared further up) | 16:22 |
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| John24 | ahh I see :) thanks | 16:24 |
| Elleo | no problem :) | 16:24 |
| John24 | but if I want to query an xml that's onthe web wouldn't I need listmodel? | 16:25 |
| John24 | essentially I am working on VLC remote and it's status is stored as am xml file which I want to read from | 16:25 |
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| Elleo | you'll probably have to read and parse that from C++ then | 16:26 |
| Elleo | sorry, misread that | 16:27 |
| Elleo | thought you said "that's not on the web" | 16:27 |
| Elleo | the thing I linked you to is an example of doing things on the web | 16:27 |
| Elleo | its only if its a local file that you'll need to do reading from C++ | 16:27 |
| John24 | ahh let me have a better look at it | 16:28 |
| Elleo | John24: it uses this helper function that I pointede you to a few days ago: https://gitorious.org/foocorp/gnu-fm/source/0d55bcbd8c77751e3890e606fb5a296ad922a917:clients/sailfish/qml/harbour-librefm.qml#L44 | 16:28 |
| Elleo | that does xmlhttprequests and then calls a user defined callback to do the parsing of the final data | 16:28 |
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| John24 | brilliant, thank you for that | 16:30 |
| Elleo | no worries | 16:30 |
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| clau | coderus, sorry, I was away. What I mean by update is actually how can I change the account, or make a new one for the new number. | 16:39 |
| clau | I noticed there's an option to remove the account, but I wasn't sure if that removes the history associated with the account or not. | 16:39 |
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| coderus | clau: go to account and remove it. your conversations will be untouched. | 16:47 |
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| coderus | there are two options for remove in account | 16:47 |
| coderus | one deleting account from application | 16:47 |
| coderus | second removing account from server and erasing database on phone | 16:48 |
| clau | I see. Removing from app will also remove it from server, or just locally? | 16:48 |
| clau | well, it doesn't matter much for me if it's not removed from server, since I will be switching back to that number in some time. | 16:51 |
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| tbr | yay, got rcg's harbour-meepasswords building by ripping out the dependency binaries and building the dependency proper | 17:36 |
| tbr | and it wasn't that hard to get this going on OBS | 17:37 |
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| tbr | hmmm, I can get a call notification from dbus, but I don't see the Name being transmitted, is that available anywhere? | 17:59 |
| tbr | or would I need to query the people database somehow? | 18:00 |
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| coderus | can QtCreator work on two displays? | 18:07 |
| suy | coderus: in the 3.0 changelog, I saw "improments for multiple screens", but I don't know what that means. And sailfish sdk has creator 2.x. | 18:09 |
| suy | The only feature I know is making the help a separate window. That should work. | 18:09 |
| coderus | its not about help :) | 18:09 |
| coderus | i want one display for qml code and second for c++ | 18:10 |
| coderus | tried to switch between files to verify parameters | 18:10 |
| coderus | tired* | 18:10 |
| suy | Yeah, That's why I code in vim, with several vertical splits. In creator splits suck. | 18:11 |
| Waitee | i prefer sublime text | 18:12 |
| coderus | both have no api completion | 18:12 |
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| Waitee | true | 18:13 |
| suy | vim has good c++ completion, through plugins, of course | 18:13 |
| suy | but I doubt there will be one for qml :( | 18:13 |
| Waitee | as well as sublime text | 18:13 |
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| coderus | i know | 18:14 |
| coderus | its why i wrote *api completion* | 18:14 |
| coderus | i'm using sublime text :) | 18:14 |
| coderus | oh, there is "Open in new window" | 18:16 |
| coderus | awesome! | 18:16 |
| coderus | now i like qt creator again :) | 18:16 |
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| M4rtinK | suy: https://github.com/peterhoeg/vim-qml | 18:17 |
| M4rtinK | (just found it myself BTW) | 18:18 |
| suy | M4rtinK: that's not completion :) | 18:18 |
| suy | is basic syntax highlighting | 18:18 |
| M4rtinK | oh, right | 18:18 |
| suy | M4rtinK: and, BTW: https://github.com/peterhoeg/vim-qml/blob/master/ftplugin/qml.vim :-D | 18:19 |
| suy | maybe you see someone familiar there ;) | 18:19 |
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| M4rtinK | yeah, lol :) | 18:20 |
| s1gk1ll | Hi everyone. I'm trying to execute system commands in qml | 18:21 |
| s1gk1ll | used some generic cpp/qml examples but cannot reach the goal | 18:22 |
| s1gk1ll | anyone know some sailfish app to use as example? | 18:22 |
| M4rtinK | hmm, there really doesn't seem to be a QML autocomplete for vim at the moment | 18:23 |
| coderus | what you want to launch exactly? | 18:23 |
| coderus | s1gk1ll: ? | 18:23 |
| suy | s1gk1ll: you mean, invoking processes through system() ? | 18:23 |
| s1gk1ll | basically I want to execute shell scripts and process the return | 18:23 |
| s1gk1ll | in qml | 18:23 |
| suy | why a shell script? | 18:23 |
| s1gk1ll | shell script is just an example in this case | 18:23 |
| s1gk1ll | any command will do | 18:24 |
| M4rtinK | on the other end: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/qml-mode.el :P | 18:24 |
| coderus | s1gk1ll: the only way is to write C++ class for that using QProcess and export to QML | 18:24 |
| suy | M4rtinK: it's complicated. For C++ is simpler nowadays because you have clang, which has APIs. For QML I doubt there are such things at this point. Creator does everything because it has to. Is too Qt specific, I suppose. | 18:24 |
| s1gk1ll | yes coderus, the examples I saw are based on QProcess | 18:24 |
| s1gk1ll | but Im having problems to integrate it | 18:25 |
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| M4rtinK | well, just mining the available members from qmltype & displaying them based on current scope should be doable | 18:25 |
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| s1gk1ll | I believe that some of the current available apps execute commands right? | 18:25 |
| coderus | s1gk1ll: http://askubuntu.com/questions/288494/run-system-commands-from-qml-app | 18:26 |
| M4rtinK | s1gk1ll: basically, you need to use some form of backend to run them | 18:26 |
| s1gk1ll | the problem is I'm kinda new in this qml/cpp world | 18:26 |
| coderus | s1gk1ll: its very specific operation, less than one application starting binaries from itself | 18:26 |
| M4rtinK | s1gk1ll: as I think you can't directly run shel commands from plain QML/QtQuick | 18:26 |
| coderus | s1gk1ll: then you need to learn | 18:26 |
| coderus | s1gk1ll: there are many examples around yiu | 18:27 |
| coderus | just google it | 18:27 |
| s1gk1ll | coderus: I followed that example | 18:27 |
| s1gk1ll | have you ever used the SailfishApp::createView() etc etc | 18:27 |
| s1gk1ll | in the target cpp ? | 18:28 |
| coderus | yes i'm using it every time :) | 18:28 |
| s1gk1ll | ok, I have the .cpp and .h for shell script execution | 18:28 |
| s1gk1ll | via QProcess | 18:28 |
| coderus | QGuiApplication *app = SailfishApp::application(argc, argv); | 18:28 |
| coderus | QQuickView *view = SailfishApp::createView(); | 18:28 |
| s1gk1ll | exactly | 18:29 |
| s1gk1ll | in the example I see | 18:29 |
| coderus | ProcessClass *process = new ProcessClass; | 18:29 |
| s1gk1ll | they set a property | 18:29 |
| s1gk1ll | in the qml | 18:29 |
| s1gk1ll | viewer.rootContext()->setContextProperty("scriptLauncher", &launcher); | 18:29 |
| coderus | view->rootContext()->setContextProperty("process", process); | 18:29 |
| s1gk1ll | yep | 18:29 |
| coderus | view->showFullScreen(); | 18:30 |
| coderus | view->setSource(SailfishApp::pathTo("qml/main.qml")); // << before | 18:30 |
| coderus | and | 18:30 |
| coderus | return app->exec(); | 18:30 |
| s1gk1ll | yes, like in the example | 18:30 |
| s1gk1ll | so now | 18:30 |
| s1gk1ll | I need to understant how to access the process | 18:30 |
| s1gk1ll | launcher | 18:30 |
| coderus | in qml you just write: var output = process.launch("/my/super/script.sh awesome params here") | 18:31 |
| coderus | and voila | 18:31 |
| s1gk1ll | that will be available in mail.qml only right? | 18:31 |
| coderus | no | 18:31 |
| coderus | its context propery | 18:31 |
| coderus | its global | 18:31 |
| s1gk1ll | oh, ok ok | 18:31 |
| s1gk1ll | and the main.qml is the project "init" qml ? | 18:32 |
| coderus | main.qml is the project ApplicationWindow for most vases | 18:33 |
| coderus | cases* | 18:33 |
| s1gk1ll | exactly | 18:33 |
| s1gk1ll | I think I understood it | 18:33 |
| coderus | its creates window where your qml pages | 18:33 |
| s1gk1ll | I'll give a try asap | 18:33 |
| coderus | its eaasy, really | 18:33 |
| s1gk1ll | and let you now the outcome | 18:34 |
| s1gk1ll | yes, looks pretty easy | 18:34 |
| s1gk1ll | thanks a lot coderus and M4rtinK | 18:34 |
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| coderus | you welcome | 18:38 |
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| M4rtinK | s1gk1ll: no problem :) | 18:42 |
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| walokra | somewhat surprising that there's no qml way to copy text to clipboard but you need c++ for it | 18:53 |
| coderus | walokra: textArea.text = myText; textArea.selectAll(); textArea.copy(); | 18:55 |
| coderus | ;) | 18:55 |
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| walokra | but if you don't have textarea but just text | 18:58 |
| walokra | äh, forget it :) | 18:59 |
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| suy | walokra: there is a Clipboard element, by the way | 19:07 |
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| s1gk1ll | coderus: it works ;) | 19:12 |
| walokra | coderus: thanks, using textarea is kinda hack but works :) | 19:13 |
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| attah | app comes out white after i import my derived qobject c++ class, but creator is happy with the import.. what did i mess up? | 20:26 |
| suy | what's the warning in the output? | 20:26 |
| attah | In the application output? Nothing. | 20:27 |
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| attah | Compile output complains about files being listed twice.. but i haven't messed with anything like that | 20:30 |
| sunkan | Finally received my Jolla :) First issue is that my app is linked against libsailfishapp and that library/rpm is not installed on my phone, is that normal? Do I need to specify dependency for that when building the rpm? | 20:33 |
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| John24 | hi guys, Have any of you had issues with cover page? Qt creator says that my CoverActionList element is "unknown component M300" any ideas what could it be? | 20:36 |
| suy | John24: the runtime can't find the component. Some path or something is wrong. Source? | 20:36 |
| walokra | my qt creator says the same but app still works | 20:37 |
| Elleo | suy: yeah, you'll need sailfishapp in your PkgConfigBR in your yaml, iirc that should be done by default if you're using the templates though | 20:37 |
| John24 | yes the app works but once I add onTriggered it does not show cover anymore | 20:37 |
| Elleo | sorry, the above was meant for sunkan | 20:38 |
| sunkan | Elleo: Ok, I'll add that then and publish a new version.. Strange that other people have it running though, I guess they must have installed another app that has the proper PkgConfigBRb | 20:40 |
| John24 | suy: you want to see the source code? | 20:40 |
| suy | John24: Yes, or more details. | 20:41 |
| John24 | so the covers page is pretty standard : http://pastebin.com/zFzr4dyq | 20:41 |
| John24 | but this was never lke that, I can't remember when this issue came about | 20:42 |
| John24 | even if I make a brand new project cover page still had issues with CoverActionList | 20:42 |
| John24 | has | 20:43 |
| Elleo | John24: onTrigered | 20:46 |
| Elleo | should be onTriggered | 20:46 |
| Elleo | so the component won't load due to trying to assign stuff to a property that doesn't exist | 20:46 |
| John24 | I will cry if that's the truth xD | 20:47 |
| John24 | yep it was bad bad spelling | 20:47 |
| suy | Still, with the default CoverPage from the template, Creator complains with the M300 error. Althought he application works. | 20:47 |
| John24 | thank you | 20:48 |
| attah | Gaaah.. still only a white screen if i have my import :( | 20:48 |
| John24 | yeah why is it showing M300 problem | 20:48 |
| coderus | because component not exported to be showed in qtcreator? | 20:50 |
| John24 | ohh | 20:52 |
| attah | not sure i understand what you are saying.. i do qmlRegisterType in main, and then import on FirstPage | 20:52 |
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| John24 | does anyone know how to call a function from cover page that is in firstpage? | 20:52 |
| coderus | John24: from firstpage you cant | 20:53 |
| coderus | you can call function from main | 20:53 |
| sunkan | Elleo: Hmm.. I don't understand.. I first got a rejection due to pkg requires "libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4.11)" so then I went ahead and added "AutoReqProv: No" to the .spec file and that got rid of most requires (including sailfishapp). I don't see the AutoReqProv suggestion in the FAQ anymore (has it changed or am I remembering it wrong)? | 20:53 |
| sunkan | Elleo: What requires should a simple C++/QML sailfish silica app have? | 20:54 |
| Elleo | libstdc++.so.6 is on the approved list so I dunno why you'd get rejected for that | 20:54 |
| John24 | I see so I need to move my functions to main? | 20:55 |
| Stskeeps | sunkan: that does not sound correct | 20:55 |
| sunkan | Elleo: Yeah my point exactly.. Did not understand.. | 20:55 |
| coderus | you dont need to add to requires system by=uiltin libs | 20:55 |
| coderus | John24: you can keep in main some wrappers | 20:55 |
| Elleo | sunkan: but the approved/unapproved stuff seems pretty incomplete at the moment anyway, maybe someone reviewing it just made a mistake | 20:56 |
| coderus | but yes, if you using it from many places just move it to main | 20:56 |
| coderus | thats easier | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | sunkan: i've posted it to the right people | 20:56 |
| sunkan | Here's the rejection.. http://paste.debian.net/75663/ | 20:56 |
| John24 | thank you :) this should also make the code look nicer :) | 20:56 |
| Elleo | sunkan: from that it sounds like you have libstdc++.so.6 in your package itself | 20:57 |
| sunkan | I don't of course ;) | 20:57 |
| Stskeeps | i'm pretty sure it's a mistake | 20:57 |
| sunkan | So it made no sense to me, but there's no way to respond to the admins as I know. | 20:57 |
| John24 | do I need to include main into the qml files? | 20:57 |
| Stskeeps | sunkan: well, developer-care@ | 20:58 |
| Stskeeps | but, it's clearly a bug | 20:58 |
| sunkan | Since I don't include any libraries I can remove the "AutoReqProv: No" frome the .spec file and it should pass with all the default requires.. | 20:58 |
| sunkan | Thanks for clearing it out for me, I'll update the package and see how it goes.. | 20:59 |
| coderus | sunkan: i have libstdc++.so.6(GLIBCXX_3.4) in my binary | 20:59 |
| sunkan | coderus: Yeah, I had my friend who have had a phone since christmas and he also had apps that had it in the requires.. As I said I didn't understand anything when I got the rejection.. | 21:00 |
| sunkan | But why does none of the Jolla official apps require sailfishapp already? | 21:02 |
| Elleo | sunkan: perhaps they just don't use it? I think it's a fairly recent thing, it's only a convenience lib really, you don't *have* to use it | 21:04 |
| sunkan | Elleo: Ok, I don't need to know/understand really.. I just assumed that they would use it. | 21:05 |
| sunkan | I see that my app pulls in the requires in the emulator so it will probably work better when I have the new version published.. | 21:06 |
| coderus | sunkan: seems like QA error | 21:07 |
| coderus | contact with mailing list | 21:07 |
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| sunkan | btw I have seen that my emulator still says "SailfishOS 1.0.1.11", can/should I update that to same version as is current on the Jolla? | 21:10 |
| coderus | no, its shared library :) | 21:11 |
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| attah | lollerplex! i found the error | 21:20 |
| attah | import harbour.coverart.backend 1.0 as backend | 21:20 |
| attah | if i name it the same thing it fails on import | 21:21 |
| John24 | coderus: thanks for help it now works :) but its weird cover action to the left does both pause and play while to the right it's only play | 21:21 |
| John24 | http://pastebin.com/SH8D6GXP | 21:22 |
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| attah | what the F, I can't import it "as" anything without pages going all white | 21:31 |
| attah | and either i fail or it doesn't work to call a slot on it as backend.someslot() when just importing without "as" | 21:32 |
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| attah | is it something to do with that i use return SailfishApp::main(argc, argv); ? and not that other way to start.. | 21:36 |
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| khertan | https://together.jolla.com/question/13772/frequent-shutdown-without-any-apparent-reason/ | 22:47 |
| khertan | Hi, i'm currently experiencing shutdown on my Jolla | 22:47 |
| khertan | which happen often, anyone experience such intenpestiv reboot ? | 22:48 |
| Stskeeps | khertan: catch me tomorrow? | 22:48 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, i ll try | 22:49 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, thx :) | 22:49 |
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