| *** Yaniel has quit IRC | 00:02 | |
| *** arcean has quit IRC | 00:02 | |
| *** Yaniel has joined #sailfishos | 00:07 | |
| *** niweber has quit IRC | 00:11 | |
| *** niweber has joined #sailfishos | 00:14 | |
| *** b0unc3 has quit IRC | 00:17 | |
| *** b0unc3 has joined #sailfishos | 00:31 | |
| *** rcg has quit IRC | 00:38 | |
| *** Yaniel has quit IRC | 00:48 | |
| *** Yaniel has joined #sailfishos | 00:53 | |
| *** Yaniel has quit IRC | 01:05 | |
| *** Yaniel has joined #sailfishos | 01:05 | |
| *** sardini has quit IRC | 01:34 | |
| *** Yaniel has quit IRC | 01:36 | |
| *** Yaniel has joined #sailfishos | 01:36 | |
| *** Yaniel has quit IRC | 01:42 | |
| *** Yaniel has joined #sailfishos | 01:47 | |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC | 01:52 | |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has joined #sailfishos | 01:59 | |
| *** miksuh has quit IRC | 02:04 | |
| *** miksuh has joined #sailfishos | 02:13 | |
| *** b0unc3 has quit IRC | 02:13 | |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC | 02:30 | |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has joined #sailfishos | 02:46 | |
| *** ganzuul has quit IRC | 03:13 | |
| *** ganzuul has joined #sailfishos | 03:38 | |
| GentSir | Well, I've got the SDK installed now | 03:54 |
|---|---|---|
| *** furikku has joined #sailfishos | 04:13 | |
| *** f3an0r has joined #sailfishos | 04:44 | |
| *** thedead1440 is now known as thedead1440__ | 04:55 | |
| *** thedead1440__ is now known as thedead1440 | 04:55 | |
| *** maninc has joined #sailfishos | 05:17 | |
| *** zhxt has joined #sailfishos | 05:26 | |
| *** veskuh has joined #sailfishos | 05:33 | |
| *** martyone has joined #sailfishos | 05:34 | |
| GentSir | Don't know if this is the question for here. But if Sailfish will work on a Nexus 4, will it also work on an LG Optimus? | 05:37 |
| *** lpotter has quit IRC | 05:46 | |
| *** lpotter has joined #sailfishos | 05:47 | |
| *** Pat_o has joined #sailfishos | 05:56 | |
| *** sonach has joined #sailfishos | 05:58 | |
| *** batteryyy has joined #sailfishos | 06:09 | |
| Jonni | GentSir: if community ports it - then yes, if community doesnt port it - then no. | 06:13 |
| *** andreibechet has joined #sailfishos | 06:14 | |
| *** Pali has joined #sailfishos | 06:37 | |
| *** VDVsx has joined #sailfishos | 06:40 | |
| *** zhxt has quit IRC | 06:42 | |
| *** niqt has joined #sailfishos | 06:56 | |
| niqt | morning | 06:59 |
| *** andreibechet has quit IRC | 07:02 | |
| *** zhxt_ has joined #sailfishos | 07:03 | |
| *** dm8tbr has quit IRC | 07:05 | |
| *** stephg has joined #sailfishos | 07:11 | |
| *** zhxt_ has quit IRC | 07:16 | |
| *** gabriel9 has joined #sailfishos | 07:18 | |
| *** Pali has quit IRC | 07:19 | |
| *** niqt has quit IRC | 07:20 | |
| *** gabriel9 has quit IRC | 07:22 | |
| *** veskuh_ has joined #sailfishos | 07:27 | |
| *** rcg has joined #sailfishos | 07:33 | |
| *** dm8tbr has joined #sailfishos | 07:34 | |
| *** pyksy has quit IRC | 07:34 | |
| *** pyksy^ has joined #sailfishos | 07:34 | |
| *** pyksy^ is now known as pyksy | 07:34 | |
| *** cxl000 has joined #sailfishos | 07:37 | |
| *** jpetersen has joined #sailfishos | 07:49 | |
| *** mvogt has quit IRC | 07:49 | |
| *** f3an0r has quit IRC | 07:52 | |
| *** Pat_o has quit IRC | 07:55 | |
| *** GentSir has quit IRC | 08:02 | |
| *** zhxt has joined #sailfishos | 08:05 | |
| *** gabriel9|work has joined #sailfishos | 08:06 | |
| *** GentSir has joined #sailfishos | 08:16 | |
| *** Pat_o has joined #sailfishos | 08:24 | |
| *** mikhas has joined #sailfishos | 08:29 | |
| *** Pat_o has quit IRC | 08:29 | |
| *** niqt has joined #sailfishos | 08:35 | |
| *** Pat_o has joined #sailfishos | 08:43 | |
| *** stephg has quit IRC | 08:44 | |
| *** rcg has quit IRC | 08:47 | |
| *** Pat_o has quit IRC | 08:47 | |
| *** maninc has quit IRC | 08:52 | |
| *** jukkaeklund has joined #sailfishos | 08:53 | |
| *** niqt has quit IRC | 08:57 | |
| *** jpetrell has joined #sailfishos | 09:02 | |
| *** zhxt_ has joined #sailfishos | 09:05 | |
| *** zhxt has quit IRC | 09:05 | |
| *** Pat_o has joined #sailfishos | 09:07 | |
| *** veskuh has quit IRC | 09:11 | |
| *** Pat_o has quit IRC | 09:12 | |
| *** maninc has joined #sailfishos | 09:14 | |
| *** Pat_o has joined #sailfishos | 09:19 | |
| *** sonach has quit IRC | 09:21 | |
| *** meegoexperts has joined #sailfishos | 09:48 | |
| *** zhxt_ has quit IRC | 09:55 | |
| *** jukkaeklund has quit IRC | 10:05 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #sailfishos | 10:05 | |
| *** veskuh_ has quit IRC | 10:13 | |
| *** martyone_ has joined #sailfishos | 10:18 | |
| *** martyone has quit IRC | 10:18 | |
| GentSir | lbt, you around? | 10:22 |
| *** chriadam is now known as chriadam|away | 10:23 | |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC | 10:24 | |
| *** SKonstantin_tab has joined #sailfishos | 10:25 | |
| lbt | GentSir: usually :) | 10:26 |
| *** chriadam|away is now known as chriadam | 10:27 | |
| GentSir | lbt, i'm not sure if the SDK has any dependences I'm not aware of or if the emulator just isn't launching right. Are there any "demo" applications I could build in the sdk to test it out? | 10:27 |
| Yaniel | you need to have virtualbox installed | 10:28 |
| GentSir | Yaniel, I do have virtualbox installed | 10:28 |
| lbt | GentSir: what distro ? | 10:28 |
| lbt | https://sailfishos.org//wiki/SDK_Alpha_Known_Issues may help too | 10:29 |
| *** radiofree has left #sailfishos | 10:29 | |
| *** veskuh_ has joined #sailfishos | 10:29 | |
| GentSir | lbt, I'm using Debian Wheezy | 10:29 |
| GentSir | Crunchbang, if the distro really matters | 10:29 |
| lbt | similar to me then | 10:29 |
| lbt | ubuntu has a few quirks | 10:30 |
| GentSir | You're on Ubuntu? | 10:30 |
| *** SKonstantin_tab has quit IRC | 10:30 | |
| lbt | no, Debian | 10:30 |
| *** Pali has joined #sailfishos | 10:30 | |
| lbt | anyhow - say what's wrong | 10:30 |
| GentSir | Crunchbang is based off Debian Wheezy. Was based on Ubuntu about 2 years ago | 10:30 |
| GentSir | lbt, I'm building it again so I can get the error message | 10:31 |
| *** chriadam is now known as chriadam|away | 10:32 | |
| GentSir | I hit "start sdk" and MerSDK is running in virtualbox. Build Project returns this under Compile Output: http://codepad.org/uPA7Kl40 | 10:32 |
| lbt | Tools ->options ->Mer ->Test Connecion | 10:33 |
| GentSir | Oh, whoops. I saw the issue on the page you linked | 10:34 |
| lbt | :) | 10:34 |
| lbt | bbiam | 10:34 |
| GentSir | Says it can connect under than dialog as well | 10:34 |
| GentSir | "If deployment fails with: "Could not connect to host: Timeout waiting for reply from server." then there is a problem with VirtualBox and DNS resolution. To fix either ssh in to the emulator as root or press right-ctrl+F2 and login as root/nemo. Then echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf inside the emulator. (right-ctrl+F1 to get graphics back) " | 10:34 |
| GentSir | That was under a bullet on that page close to the bottom | 10:35 |
| GentSir | Tried again and it built fine. Guess you just have to wait a minute after starting MerSDK in VB to build | 10:36 |
| lbt | yes, boot usually takes a few seconds | 10:37 |
| lbt | we have fixes for that DNS issue | 10:37 |
| *** mikhas has quit IRC | 10:38 | |
| GentSir | lbt, seems to be working fine. Are there any "demo" applications available? Even stuff that just shows off the api or qt | 10:39 |
| Yaniel | the component gallery? | 10:39 |
| lbt | yep - Welcome -> tabs at top right | 10:39 |
| lbt | I think you have examples for both component gallery (which is also pre-installed - the propellor) and a photo app | 10:40 |
| GentSir | alright, thank you | 10:40 |
| GentSir | Any Sailfish specific tutorials or other resources available? The site is a little bare | 10:42 |
| *** SKonstantin_tab has joined #sailfishos | 10:43 | |
| GentSir | sorry, found it | 10:44 |
| lbt | no - it's an area we need to work on | 10:44 |
| lbt | I would like to find a way to use the Qt tutorials on the device/emul too | 10:44 |
| GentSir | What do you mean by using them on the device? | 10:47 |
| *** SKonstantin_tab has quit IRC | 10:49 | |
| *** niqt has joined #sailfishos | 10:50 | |
| *** zhxt has joined #sailfishos | 10:55 | |
| GentSir | lbt, I like the "bread crumb" style buttons on the top left to go back through menus | 10:55 |
| *** jukkaeklund has joined #sailfishos | 10:56 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: the dots ? | 10:57 |
| GentSir | Sfiet_Konstantin, yes. It reminded me of the bread crumb navigation used in file managers | 10:57 |
| *** meegoexperts is now known as ash786 | 10:59 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: not totally true, you cannot click on one of the dot to be taken to that entry | 10:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | however, it is nice to have it as an indicator of the position, and as a back button | 10:59 |
| GentSir | Sfiet_Konstantin, yes, it is pretty neat. Looks like I need to learn QT and brush up on my C++, I've only used C | 11:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: Qt please :P:P:P | 11:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: C++ is hard | 11:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but Qt makes it easy | 11:01 |
| *** zenvoid has joined #sailfishos | 11:01 | |
| GentSir | Sfiet_Konstantin, isn't Qt used just for the interface and C++ for the logic? or am I missing something? | 11:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Qt is a toolkit | 11:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it makes the use of C++ easier | 11:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | by providing quite a few nice stuff | 11:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | like containers | 11:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it also provides display | 11:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | like everything displayed in sailfish simu is done by Qt | 11:02 |
| Yaniel | and threads | 11:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Yaniel: threads, networking, sql, xml parsing | 11:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so many stuff | 11:02 |
| Yaniel | yep | 11:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | finally, it is able to understand a script language, called QML | 11:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that si something that is used to describe UIs | 11:03 |
| GentSir | I see. So you write everything in Qt/QML and it then compiles to C++? | 11:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Qt is powerful | 11:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it helps you to write logic easily | 11:03 |
| Yaniel | QML does not compile (AFAIK) | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and ui, but QML is better for ui | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | QML is interpreted by Qt | 11:04 |
| Yaniel | Qt is a C++ library so that compiles | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it do not makes the UI slower though | 11:04 |
| Yaniel | GentSir: QML is a bit like HTML | 11:04 |
| GentSir | I see. Sorry, I have zero experience with Qt or QML | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: no problem | 11:04 |
| *** SKonstantin_tab has joined #sailfishos | 11:04 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | technically, you should start studying QML | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is fun | 11:04 |
| Yaniel | you can always learn :) | 11:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is rewarding | 11:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is easy | 11:05 |
| Yaniel | it is fast | 11:05 |
| GentSir | lbt mentioned javascript for the UI, how does that fit in? | 11:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Qt is C++, a bit more tedious, but you have C background, so should not be a prolem either | 11:05 |
| Yaniel | you can tweak the QML with javascript | 11:05 |
| GentSir | I see. I'll have to get learning | 11:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Yaniel, GentSir you can write apps with only QML and JS :P | 11:06 |
| Yaniel | or even write your entire logic in JS | 11:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Tweetian was like that | 11:06 |
| Yaniel | yes | 11:06 |
| Yaniel | I did that once too | 11:06 |
| GentSir | I have a little experience with Android development, but I'd really prefer Sailfish as it's based on MeeGo | 11:06 |
| GentSir | and I think the dalvik java implementation is a horrendous slow mess | 11:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: that's true | 11:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but did you see the native SDK ? | 11:07 |
| Yaniel | I hear you can use C these days though | 11:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is said to be pretty ok | 11:07 |
| GentSir | Sfiet_Konstantin, it doesn't integrate as well with the API as using java does | 11:07 |
| GentSir | IMHO, it's a pain the as to use the NDK | 11:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sad | 11:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | however Qt for android is based on the NDK | 11:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and packs quite a lot of features | 11:08 |
| GentSir | Qt for android? I'll have to check that out as well, even if it's just so I can use it on an actual device | 11:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: wait for Qt 5.2 | 11:09 |
| GentSir | My best mate has my old N9 at his place still, I'll have him ship it down and see if I can't hunt up a sailfish image for it | 11:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well even in Qt 5.1 you already have a preview | 11:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: sailfish image will come for N9, but not now | 11:09 |
| GentSir | It would be helpful just to see Qt on an actual mobile device | 11:09 |
| GentSir | Sfiet_Konstantin, I know they exist... | 11:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: well, maybe | 11:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but community have to build it | 11:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | won't be hard i think | 11:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | except for closed bits | 11:10 |
| GentSir | Yes, I understand why that's required | 11:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: but it can be done | 11:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | we will have that image one day | 11:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and it will be awesome | 11:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because, even on the iconia tab it is awesome | 11:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (iconia tab w500 = one of the worst hw ever :P) | 11:11 |
| GentSir | Sfiet_Konstantin, yeah, I saw in one of the channels that you have it on one | 11:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: wait a bit | 11:13 |
| GentSir | I used to use a Nokia N9 as my main phone | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you will see better :) | 11:13 |
| *** jluisn has joined #sailfishos | 11:13 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: both N9 and iconia have the same fate IMO | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | poor HW, nice device to tinker with | 11:13 |
| GentSir | No, the N9 was a great phone in its heyday | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | need optimisations to make stuff run on them | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | however, iconia also had a poor HW | 11:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | SW | 11:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | unlike N9 | 11:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and iconia is ugly :P | 11:14 |
| GentSir | I considered the N950 the holy grail of smartphones. It was beautiful | 11:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | there is no much differences between Awesomeness and total fail | 11:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | when you look at those two cases | 11:14 |
| GentSir | Yes | 11:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: we already talked about N9 vs N950 | 11:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it depends of you | 11:15 |
| GentSir | oh yes | 11:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 11:15 |
| GentSir | The decline of hw keyboards is sad | 11:15 |
| GentSir | I had a G1, then a Droid 1, using an Atrix 2 right now, and I'm considering an LG Optimus or Nexus 4 next | 11:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: or a Jolla phone | 11:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | definitely a Jolla phone | 11:16 |
| sledges | N9 has one of the most amazing haptics non-HW keyboard. It feels as if you were typewriting! | 11:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: +10 | 11:16 |
| GentSir | sledges, agreed. best sw keyboard ever | 11:16 |
| sledges | and if you put sound on, other's think you're actually typewriting :D | 11:16 |
| sledges | masterpiece of engineeringa | 11:17 |
| GentSir | The android sw keyboard feels like it's in time delay sometimes. I can type out on it and then watch it key in the presses 2-3 seconds apart | 11:17 |
| GentSir | It's awful | 11:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm waiting Jolla on that | 11:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | quality of SW kbd | 11:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | on the tab it is aweful | 11:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but it is the tab and a not-yet-beta image | 11:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 11:17 |
| GentSir | But I'll be buying a jolla phone as soon as one is released. Assuming the price point is reasonable and I can get it to work on US AT&T | 11:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: I think it is ok to make it work on ATT | 11:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | does the N9 worked on ATT ? | 11:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | don't know that much actually | 11:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | carriers stuff | 11:19 |
| GentSir | over GSM it did | 11:19 |
| GentSir | but that's it | 11:19 |
| GentSir | Which is why I eventually moved to the G1 and Droid 1 | 11:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sad | 11:21 |
| GentSir | Very | 11:21 |
| GentSir | I loved Meego | 11:21 |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has joined #sailfishos | 11:22 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello Morpog_Mobile | 11:22 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Hi | 11:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | vid is being encoded :) | 11:23 |
| GentSir | There was a nokia phone my mate had with a display on top and hw keyboard on bottom, looked like a stereotypical blackberry phone. I'm trying to think of the name of it | 11:23 |
| GentSir | I know it ran Symbian | 11:24 |
| SKonstantin_tab | E71 | 11:24 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Great! Have lots of time watching it, as i got ill :-( | 11:24 |
| SKonstantin_tab | E63 | 11:24 |
| SKonstantin_tab | E72 | 11:24 |
| SKonstantin_tab | E6 | 11:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: anyone of these ? | 11:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_Mobile: :( | 11:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_Mobile: good luck for getting back in shape :) | 11:24 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Thx | 11:25 |
| GentSir | The E71 looks very similar. His was black | 11:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | E72 | 11:25 |
| GentSir | Yes, that's it | 11:26 |
| GentSir | You guys are going to get sick of my love for hw keyboards | 11:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | nice phone | 11:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | one of the best phone | 11:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: my first nokia love was the E71 | 11:26 |
| *** maninc has quit IRC | 11:26 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | then the N950 and the N9 | 11:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but yeah, E7x were pretty good | 11:27 |
| GentSir | I would've loved an N950 | 11:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | pretty pretty | 11:27 |
| GentSir | He used his E72 as a daily phone for a couple years | 11:27 |
| GentSir | My dream phone would be something in the form factor of a N950 but with updated hardware | 11:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: it is the dream of many | 11:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but I find landscape hwkbd not that practical | 11:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the one of the E71 was the best I experienced | 11:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, no, the best is the one of the E63 | 11:28 |
| GentSir | I typed on the E72 a few times, it was nice | 11:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | this one was crazy | 11:28 |
| GentSir | I'd take a phone in that style | 11:29 |
| Nicd- | I want someone to make a phone like the old Nokia Communicators | 11:29 |
| Nicd- | with a high dpi touch screen and full keyboard inside | 11:29 |
| Nicd- | and maybe a small touch screen on the outside which doesn't have to be that nice | 11:29 |
| GentSir | Nicd-, how about something like this integrated into the outside? http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/29/popslate-launches-iphone-5-case-with-four-inch-e-ink-screen-vid/ | 11:31 |
| Nicd- | maybe | 11:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yota phone ? | 11:32 |
| GentSir | An eink auxiliary display could list notifications, directions while using a mapping app, etc. All sorts of cool stuff | 11:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | smartphone episode 3 | 11:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | revenge of the clamshells | 11:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 11:32 |
| GentSir | Oh god. As long as it has a hw keyboard! | 11:33 |
| Nicd- | bring back the brick form factor of communicators | 11:33 |
| GentSir | No, not a brick | 11:33 |
| GentSir | I'm not focused on "as slim as absolutely possible", but I want a good form factor | 11:34 |
| *** zetaz has joined #sailfishos | 11:34 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: not me | 11:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I hate the 2mm smartphones | 11:34 |
| GentSir | Sfiet_Konstantin, I had never heard of the Yota Phone. That looks like exactly what I was thinking of | 11:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | give me the formfactor of the N950 | 11:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | just what i want | 11:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it has the perfect shape | 11:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | _perfect_ | 11:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | a bit rounded to fit in hands | 11:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not too big | 11:35 |
| Nicd- | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nokia_9210.jpg <3 | 11:35 |
| GentSir | Sfiet_Konstantin, my atrix is in an otterbox case and the size is fine with me | 11:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not too small | 11:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Nicd-: <3 | 11:35 |
| GentSir | You're making me jealous, I've never had my hands on an N950 | 11:35 |
| Nicd- | mom used to have that | 11:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | wow | 11:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | i dreamed about that when young | 11:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but they were expensive as hell | 11:36 |
| GentSir | Eh, I'd need a screen bigger than that. But I love the size of the N950 | 11:36 |
| *** mikhas has joined #sailfishos | 11:37 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | actually, for me, it is the shape of the N950 | 11:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | more plastic polycarbonate | 11:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or a nicer aluminium casing | 11:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and a screen of 4.2' | 11:38 |
| GentSir | As I said, making me jealous | 11:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and better kbd layout | 11:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's all | 11:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | actually, a N950++ | 11:38 |
| GentSir | My atrix has a 4.3" screen, I consider around that size perfect | 11:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah | 11:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the Galaxy S2 have 4.2 isn't it ? | 11:38 |
| GentSir | Yes | 11:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because size of SGS2 is okish for me | 11:38 |
| Nicd- | Sfiet_Konstantin: mom worked with nokia related stuff | 11:39 |
| niweber | no aluminium cases please | 11:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but not the shape | 11:39 |
| Nicd- | Sfiet_Konstantin: we got to play with the phone of course | 11:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Nicd-: lucky | 11:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 11:39 |
| GentSir | But the trend is towards even bigger screens | 11:39 |
| niweber | the n950 had so bad rexeption due to aluminium | 11:39 |
| niweber | reception | 11:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | niweber: true | 11:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | however plastic feels cheap | 11:39 |
| GentSir | I like the carbon fiber style cases | 11:39 |
| *** jpetersen_ has joined #sailfishos | 11:40 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I want a good looking phone, consistant look for HW and SW | 11:42 |
| Nicd- | if someone made a 9210 style phone with a full qwerty, retina screen and some small screen on the outside, I'd buy it in a heartbeat | 11:43 |
| *** jpetersen has quit IRC | 11:43 | |
| Nicd- | has even room for a good battery and the main screen won't get harmed easily because it's inside | 11:43 |
| Nicd- | it's the perfect concept | 11:43 |
| GentSir | Nicd-, I'd pay a lot of money for a device like that | 11:44 |
| Morpog_Mobile | I forgot that puking makes you feel better...... | 11:44 |
| GentSir | Every phone now looks pretty much the same, it's boring. No innovation | 11:44 |
| sledges | Morpog_Mobile, :D now what kind of party have you had on Sunday? :)) | 11:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Nicd-: retina screen means nothing ;) | 11:44 |
| Nicd- | Sfiet_Konstantin: well, a high dpi screen with good color and contrast performance | 11:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Nicd-: better :) | 11:45 |
| Nicd- | could just say "good screen" | 11:45 |
| *** maninc has joined #sailfishos | 11:45 | |
| Morpog_Mobile | Family birthday, lots of bacteries and vituses around :( | 11:45 |
| Nicd- | maybe a slot for a N900 style stick for poking the screen with | 11:45 |
| *** lizardo has joined #sailfishos | 11:45 | |
| Morpog_Mobile | So not the pattx i would been looking for actuslly ;) | 11:46 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Party* | 11:47 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Dsmn vkb, i need sailfish on this | 11:47 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Maalit is so much better zhan android vkb | 11:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_Mobile: sure ? | 11:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sometimes it fails | 11:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I think it misses adaptative recognition, like increasing press areas of important letters | 11:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | like e | 11:48 |
| *** mbouksim has joined #sailfishos | 11:49 | |
| *** niqt has quit IRC | 11:52 | |
| *** niqt has joined #sailfishos | 11:52 | |
| *** lukedirtwalker has joined #sailfishos | 11:55 | |
| * niweber prefers swype | 11:56 | |
| *** jpetersen_ is now known as jpetersen | 12:00 | |
| *** arcean has joined #sailfishos | 12:14 | |
| *** jukkaeklund_ has joined #sailfishos | 12:50 | |
| *** jukkaeklund has quit IRC | 12:51 | |
| GentSir | What is going to be the main method for apps to store data? Such as how Android primarily uses sqlite | 12:52 |
| *** sonach has joined #sailfishos | 12:53 | |
| *** miksuh has quit IRC | 12:54 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: what you want | 12:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | btw https://vimeo.com/62061963 | 12:56 |
| GentSir | Was wondering if Sailfish was going to be using a database like sqlite, or what would be the main method of storing data for apps | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: good video | 12:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: you can use SQLITE | 12:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | there is even sqlite access from QML | 12:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but cache can be stored in another place | 12:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you can use text file | 12:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | etc. | 12:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: :) | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: what resolution is the device? | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | wondering why homescreen is faster than on exopc | 13:00 |
| GentSir | Sfiet_Konstantin, flat files are great for simple stuff. I just like sqlite because it's a great standard | 13:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | 1280x800 | 13:00 |
| Yaniel | sqlite is great for some stuff | 13:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: I feel it to be _very_ fast | 13:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and I have meego graphicssystem for homescreen so | 13:01 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 13:01 |
| fireglow | those LED imitations look great | 13:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: well you have both, so ... | 13:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: good work for this boot speed | 13:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | seriously, I was not expecting everything to work in 10s | 13:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | wifi / all homescreen | 13:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | etc | 13:02 |
| Yaniel | I'm a bit disappointed | 13:02 |
| Yaniel | the sw keyboard does not seem to scale with screen size | 13:02 |
| Stskeeps | Yaniel: the sw keyboard was a bit of a special case for this emulator image | 13:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Yaniel: SDK _alpha_ | 13:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | _alpha_ | 13:02 |
| Stskeeps | so don't take it at face value | 13:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:02 |
| Yaniel | yeah | 13:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not final image at all :P | 13:02 |
| Yaniel | still :) | 13:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is fast | 13:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | finally, when yesterday night, I got drivers to work, suddenly, the device became so fast | 13:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sorry for the camera shake btw | 13:03 |
| *** vgrade_ has joined #sailfishos | 13:04 | |
| Stskeeps | no problem, i'm sure you were excited.. | 13:04 |
| Yaniel | it barely distracts from the main subject so np :D | 13:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: :D | 13:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | did you see the tee shirt I was wearing with the reflexion ? :D | 13:05 |
| *** kjokinie has quit IRC | 13:05 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's the most important stuff on the vid :D | 13:05 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 13:05 |
| Yaniel | around what time= | 13:05 |
| Yaniel | ? | 13:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | close to the end | 13:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | when I was playing with accelerometer | 13:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | wait I'm watching it to see if I'm doing stupid stuff :D | 13:06 |
| Yaniel | I don't have audio now but around 6:00, "what is happening?" | 13:07 |
| Yaniel | X restarting? | 13:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah | 13:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is theme changer | 13:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ambiance changer sorry | 13:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | 6.54 | 13:07 |
| Yaniel | guessed that | 13:07 |
| *** kjokinie has joined #sailfishos | 13:08 | |
| *** jjarven has quit IRC | 13:08 | |
| Yaniel | dat shirt :D | 13:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 13:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the one that iekku gave to me | 13:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks iekku :):$ | 13:09 |
| *** miksuh has joined #sailfishos | 13:14 | |
| *** jjarven has joined #sailfishos | 13:24 | |
| *** Morpog_PC has joined #sailfishos | 13:35 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | edited the wiki page for sailfish as well :) | 13:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so any Iconia tab W500 user might be able to test that. But I gess they won't be much :D | 13:35 |
| GentSir | Sfiet_Konstantin, I had never heard of the tab before... | 13:36 |
| *** mbouksim has quit IRC | 13:36 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | nobody heard of that tab | 13:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it was a windows 7 tablet | 13:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | to challenge the iPad | 13:37 |
| GentSir | That would be why | 13:37 |
| Yaniel | iconia sounds familiar | 13:37 |
| GentSir | I'm no fan of iOS, but win7 on a tablet is an awful idea | 13:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah, there are other acer tablets | 13:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | on android | 13:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: it is | 13:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | first thing i have done when getting that tablet | 13:37 |
| GentSir | Sfiet_Konstantin, sell it to a dumb rich kid and get a better one? | 13:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (by the way, i got it for free, from recycling some stuff that was not used in a company) | 13:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: no | 13:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | just get android on it | 13:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and then, mer | 13:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and more recently, fedora and sailfish | 13:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | android is too limited on that tablet | 13:38 |
| GentSir | I had an Asus Transformer 2 I liked | 13:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: and BTW, if you got that kind of crap, you have to have fun with it | 13:38 |
| vgrade_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: nice work | 13:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is limited, that's why it is awesome | 13:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I mean, more challenge to get interesting stuff running on it | 13:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | vgrade_: :) thanks | 13:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | vgrade_: thanks for your help | 13:39 |
| Yaniel | and more rewarding | 13:39 |
| GentSir | I have an Atrix 2 still alive and kicking. | 13:39 |
| Yaniel | Sfiet_Konstantin: now I have sound, could you fix the panning please? | 13:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | panning ? | 13:40 |
| Yaniel | the audio is much louder on the right side | 13:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Yaniel: lol I filmed with a N9 | 13:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | don't know if i can fix | 13:42 |
| vgrade_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: np, my weekend work, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1rGLT8oblE | 13:42 |
| Yaniel | well, fortunately that is just a small problem | 13:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | vgrade_: seen that :) | 13:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | seems to be pretty awesome | 13:43 |
| vgrade_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: I'm loving QML | 13:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but you are not yet using the recommanded fonts in the lists do you | 13:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ? | 13:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | vgrade_: everybody loves QML :) | 13:43 |
| vgrade_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: lots to learn though | 13:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | vgrade_: it is already quite good :) | 13:44 |
| vgrade_ | started with the harmatten version so replacing things with sailfish components one by one, | 13:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | vgrade_: i see | 13:44 |
| vgrade_ | a great way to lean QML | 13:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | no prob then | 13:44 |
| GentSir | I've been looking at Qt/QML tutorials and the such | 13:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: start with the rectangle | 13:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | animate it | 13:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | etc | 13:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | click on it | 13:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | then go with Sailfish components | 13:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 13:45 |
| GentSir | yeah, i saw that tutorial | 13:46 |
| GentSir | I don't know how well Qt will integrate into my desktop though | 13:46 |
| *** niqt_ has joined #sailfishos | 13:46 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: which desktop ? | 13:47 |
| *** zhxt has quit IRC | 13:47 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, Qt is 2 things, the so called "widgets", perfect to write desktop apps (integrates well) and QML that is more for mobile stuff, but integrates less | 13:47 |
| GentSir | Sfiet_Konstantin, Openbox on Debian Wheezy | 13:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | soon, (Qt 5.1) there will be Qt Quick controls, that merge these two worlds | 13:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, Qt apps will look like Qt apps | 13:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's all | 13:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | openbox do not impose a theme | 13:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | under gnome, Qt apps looks like GTK ones | 13:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and under KDE, they look like KDE ones | 13:48 |
| GentSir | Nope, but I mostly use gtk stuff. I can probably set the qt theme to match my gtk one though | 13:49 |
| GentSir | I love Openbox because it's minimal and stays out of my way so I can work | 13:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you can, qtconfig provides that | 13:49 |
| *** Pali has quit IRC | 13:49 | |
| *** niqt has quit IRC | 13:50 | |
| *** SKonstantin_tab has quit IRC | 13:52 | |
| *** SKonstantin_tab has joined #sailfishos | 13:52 | |
| *** jukkaeklund_ has quit IRC | 13:56 | |
| *** jukkaeklund has joined #sailfishos | 14:00 | |
| *** raju__ has joined #sailfishos | 14:01 | |
| *** sonach has quit IRC | 14:02 | |
| *** ash786 has quit IRC | 14:05 | |
| *** jukkaeklund has quit IRC | 14:17 | |
| *** jpetersen has quit IRC | 14:20 | |
| *** mikhas has quit IRC | 14:20 | |
| *** jpetersen has joined #sailfishos | 14:23 | |
| *** mikhas has joined #sailfishos | 14:23 | |
| zetaz | vgrade_ hello | 14:37 |
| zetaz | I have just seen from Sfiet_Konstantin tutorial for iconia on the wiki that he made changes to /var/lib/environment/nemo/60-emul-ui | 14:37 |
| zetaz | but you didn't on the ExoPC | 14:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: know what, I dunno if it is useful | 14:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I remember having doing that | 14:38 |
| zetaz | I just tried to do it on my PC | 14:38 |
| zetaz | by default it has : EGL_DRIVER=egl_gallium | 14:38 |
| *** VDVsx has quit IRC | 14:38 | |
| zetaz | with that is 'almost' works | 14:38 |
| zetaz | If I change it to egl_dri2 | 14:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: try with dri2 ? | 14:38 |
| zetaz | then it seems X11 launched correctly, but I only have the cursor, no application | 14:39 |
| zetaz | strange | 14:39 |
| zetaz | if I touch the display, in the "top" command over ssh, I see lipstick using CPU (otherwise it is idle) | 14:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: which HW ? | 14:40 |
| zetaz | so it seems that everything is running, but without displaying it | 14:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: stop lipstick, launch it with terminal | 14:40 |
| zetaz | Packard Bell Butterfly Touch | 14:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ah, that one | 14:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, that's strange | 14:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it should be exactly the same as the exopc | 14:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | intel stuff | 14:41 |
| zetaz | I need one minute to change again to dri2 (I reverted to gallium to see if it confirm it was due to this) | 14:41 |
| *** meegoexperts has joined #sailfishos | 14:41 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | comment the Environment=QT_DEFAULT_RUNTIME_SYSTEM= from lipstick.service | 14:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ? | 14:44 |
| zetaz | ok, it has rebooted | 14:44 |
| zetaz | mouse cursor and touchscreen work, but black display | 14:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | gallium ? dri2 ? | 14:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | as user, systemctl --user stop lipstick.service | 14:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and then lipstick | 14:45 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin with dri2 | 14:45 |
| zetaz | I typed "killall lipstick" | 14:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | no, it restarts after being killed | 14:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | stop it in a clean way | 14:46 |
| zetaz | the screen made a glitch, then I saw the sailfish background for a second, and it is now black (not even the cursor) | 14:46 |
| *** poo_family is now known as hexo | 14:47 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | turn the display on ? | 14:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | power button ? | 14:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and also look at the output in terminal | 14:48 |
| vgrade_ | zetaz: try loggin into nemo user nemo/nemo | 14:48 |
| zetaz | yes, the power button shows turn the display on, stupid me... | 14:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: ... | 14:49 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin : what is the clean way to stop lipstick ? | 14:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | log into nemo/nemo | 14:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | systemctl stop lipstick.service --user | 14:50 |
| zetaz | ah, it is a service ! | 14:50 |
| zetaz | it is stopped now | 14:51 |
| zetaz | I have the usual "cross" cursor of X11 on a black screen | 14:51 |
| zetaz | trying to restart it now from terminal | 14:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | just type lipstick | 14:52 |
| zetaz | yes | 14:52 |
| zetaz | It seems to be running | 14:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | any output from term ? | 14:53 |
| zetaz | there are some messages, but I don't see any error in it | 14:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well then ok | 14:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | next | 14:55 |
| zetaz | I launched the components demo, I still not have the "glows". So that was not it. | 14:56 |
| zetaz | Sfiet_Konstantin, thanks for the help | 14:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe ue gallium everywhere | 14:57 |
| zetaz | I will give it a trial. But I don't see any "gallium" related package in zypper | 15:00 |
| zetaz | I could reuse the one that was availlable by default | 15:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I really dunno right now | 15:01 |
| *** mbouksim has joined #sailfishos | 15:01 | |
| zetaz | I have a lot to learn about X and video drivers... | 15:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | zetaz: me too | 15:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and it is a mess | 15:02 |
| *** meegoexperts has quit IRC | 15:13 | |
| *** jayrulez has quit IRC | 15:17 | |
| *** niqt has joined #sailfishos | 15:26 | |
| *** niqt_ has quit IRC | 15:29 | |
| *** meegoexperts has joined #sailfishos | 15:29 | |
| *** jukkaeklund has joined #sailfishos | 15:50 | |
| *** niqt has quit IRC | 15:57 | |
| *** batteryyy has quit IRC | 16:16 | |
| *** raju__ has quit IRC | 16:34 | |
| *** meegoexperts has quit IRC | 16:36 | |
| *** ajalkane has joined #sailfishos | 16:37 | |
| *** libregeekingkid has joined #sailfishos | 16:51 | |
| *** Pali has joined #sailfishos | 16:53 | |
| *** VDVsx has joined #sailfishos | 16:59 | |
| *** gabriel9|work has quit IRC | 17:06 | |
| Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, nice video couldn't reply earlier, that illness really hit me hard | 17:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: rest well | 17:18 |
| Morpog_PC | thx will try to.. | 17:19 |
| sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin \o/ Sfiet_Konstantin :) | 17:21 |
| *** martyone_ has quit IRC | 17:21 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: :) | 17:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | now waiting for a more complete image | 17:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | soon i think that i will be able to use it as a real device | 17:22 |
| sledges | as well as helping making it happen altogether ;) | 17:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not a dev gadget anymore | 17:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges :) that's the idea :) | 17:22 |
| *** Pat_o has quit IRC | 17:25 | |
| SKonstantin_tab | Hum ... | 17:27 |
| SKonstantin_tab | Just missing a twitter client here | 17:27 |
| Morpog_PC | twimgo from nemo? | 17:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum | 17:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | why not | 17:28 |
| Morpog_PC | that tweetian port from veskuh? | 17:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | even if i would love a better one | 17:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will give twimgo a try | 17:29 |
| sledges | :) | 17:30 |
| sledges | is silica api friendly in terms of tying in apps with Sailfish feeds screen? | 17:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: not sure | 17:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but i have seen dbus methods | 17:30 |
| *** spider-mario has joined #sailfishos | 17:32 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: thanks for twimgo | 17:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will do the job for now | 17:34 |
| Morpog_PC | great :-) | 17:34 |
| *** mikhas has quit IRC | 17:37 | |
| *** mhall119 is now known as mhall119|lunch | 17:40 | |
| *** miksuh has quit IRC | 17:52 | |
| *** zetaz has left #sailfishos | 18:00 | |
| *** andreibechet has joined #sailfishos | 18:05 | |
| *** veskuh has joined #sailfishos | 18:06 | |
| *** mhall119|lunch is now known as mhall119 | 18:09 | |
| *** mbouksim has quit IRC | 18:15 | |
| *** Pat_o has joined #sailfishos | 18:17 | |
| *** libregeekingkid has quit IRC | 18:23 | |
| *** libregeekingkid has joined #sailfishos | 18:25 | |
| *** M4rtinK has joined #sailfishos | 18:34 | |
| *** raju has joined #sailfishos | 18:50 | |
| *** libregeekingkid has quit IRC | 18:50 | |
| *** RzR has quit IRC | 18:56 | |
| *** RzR has joined #sailfishos | 18:58 | |
| *** ibins has joined #sailfishos | 19:00 | |
| *** raju has quit IRC | 19:10 | |
| *** furikku has quit IRC | 19:15 | |
| *** jstaniek has joined #sailfishos | 19:46 | |
| *** meegoexperts has joined #sailfishos | 19:53 | |
| *** rashm2k has joined #sailfishos | 20:07 | |
| *** arcean has quit IRC | 20:09 | |
| *** arcean has joined #sailfishos | 20:12 | |
| *** martyone has joined #sailfishos | 20:13 | |
| *** PasNox has joined #sailfishos | 20:47 | |
| PasNox | Hi all | 20:47 |
| PasNox | I'm having a archos g80 tablet, and i'm asking myself is there is a port / plan to port sailfishos on this thing ? | 20:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | PasNox: ARM tablet isn't it | 20:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so not now | 20:51 |
| PasNox | Sfiet_Konstantin: sailfish is x86 based ? | 20:52 |
| Yaniel | for now | 20:53 |
| PasNox | ah ok :/ | 20:53 |
| PasNox | thanks. | 20:53 |
| Yaniel | or rather | 20:53 |
| PasNox | ;) | 20:53 |
| Yaniel | there is only an x86 image around so far | 20:53 |
| Yaniel | (the emulator) | 20:53 |
| PasNox | oki | 20:53 |
| PasNox | so jolla phone are intel processor ? | 20:54 |
| Yaniel | no idea | 20:54 |
| PasNox | oki | 20:54 |
| Yaniel | something mer runs on ;) | 20:54 |
| PasNox | ;) | 20:54 |
| *** SKonstantin_tab has quit IRC | 20:54 | |
| *** SKonstantin_tab_ has joined #sailfishos | 20:55 | |
| PasNox | i speak as if jolla phones were already on the market ;) | 20:55 |
| PasNox | what is the release date ? | 20:55 |
| Yaniel | around christmas is my latest information | 20:55 |
| Yaniel | with some details being revealed before summer | 20:56 |
| PasNox | great, thanks. | 20:56 |
| PasNox | hoping i will not buy a blackberry before that ;) | 20:56 |
| Yaniel | (but I may have misunderstood things) | 20:56 |
| *** jluisn has quit IRC | 20:58 | |
| *** lizardo has quit IRC | 21:00 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 21:11 | |
| *** SKonstantin_tab_ has quit IRC | 21:11 | |
| *** SfietKonstantin has joined #sailfishos | 21:11 | |
| *** SfietKonstantin is now known as Sfiet_Konstantin | 21:11 | |
| *** martyone has quit IRC | 21:14 | |
| *** ibins has quit IRC | 21:16 | |
| *** cxl000 has quit IRC | 21:17 | |
| *** veskuh has quit IRC | 21:26 | |
| *** jjarven has quit IRC | 21:31 | |
| *** Pat_o has quit IRC | 21:37 | |
| *** jjarven has joined #sailfishos | 21:44 | |
| *** rcg has joined #sailfishos | 21:45 | |
| *** martyone has joined #sailfishos | 21:46 | |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC | 21:52 | |
| *** spider-mario has quit IRC | 21:59 | |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has joined #sailfishos | 22:01 | |
| *** ajalkane has quit IRC | 22:02 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 22:08 | |
| *** LyzardKing has joined #sailfishos | 22:14 | |
| LyzardKing | I need some help setting up sailfish sdk | 22:15 |
| LyzardKing | it says no valid kits found | 22:15 |
| *** jayrulez has joined #sailfishos | 22:15 | |
| Yaniel | hmm? | 22:23 |
| Yaniel | what have you done so far | 22:23 |
| *** mvogt has joined #sailfishos | 22:25 | |
| LyzardKing | just installed it...it won't create a new project... | 22:25 |
| LyzardKing | all done on a fresh ubuntu 13.04 install. I only installed ubuntu-sdk for now | 22:26 |
| *** zenvoid has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| LyzardKing | what are the dependencies? probably I'm missing something | 22:28 |
| Yaniel | virtualbox | 22:29 |
| *** andreibechet has quit IRC | 22:30 | |
| LyzardKing | I have virtualbox...is that it? no qt dependencies? | 22:30 |
| Yaniel | because the code is compiled and run on a VM | 22:30 |
| lbt | LyzardKing: we've not tried it on 13.04 yet | 22:30 |
| *** libregeekingkid has joined #sailfishos | 22:31 | |
| LyzardKing | lbt: I'll try another reinstall...in 12.10 it was working fine... | 22:31 |
| lbt | LyzardKing: I'd be very interested in any problems you encounter | 22:32 |
| LyzardKing | I'll let you know in a moment if it's starting...If it does, where could I report bugs or problems and so on? | 22:33 |
| lbt | for the alpha report them here or on the mailing list | 22:34 |
| LyzardKing | It works! this time it did actually let me create a project... | 22:35 |
| lbt | *g* good | 22:35 |
| LyzardKing | I'll start coding a bit and I'll be back soon. | 22:36 |
| lbt | enjoy | 22:38 |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #sailfishos | 22:39 | |
| LyzardKing | thanks, I will. | 22:39 |
| *** SKonstantin_tab_ has joined #sailfishos | 22:47 | |
| SKonstantin_tab_ | Sfiet_Konstantin, ping | 22:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | SKonstantin_tab_: pong | 22:47 |
| lbt | :) | 22:52 |
| SKonstantin_tab_ | It was for notif on the tab | 22:53 |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 22:54 | |
| *** LyzardKing has quit IRC | 22:56 | |
| *** rcg has quit IRC | 22:57 | |
| *** libregeekingkid has quit IRC | 22:59 | |
| *** libregeekingkid has joined #sailfishos | 23:02 | |
| *** Pali has quit IRC | 23:06 | |
| *** jstaniek has quit IRC | 23:17 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #sailfishos | 23:24 | |
| *** PasNox has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** SKonstantin_tab_ has quit IRC | 23:28 | |
| *** libregeekingkid has quit IRC | 23:31 | |
| *** meegoexperts has quit IRC | 23:44 | |
| *** chriadam|away is now known as chriadam | 23:52 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!
