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| sledges | locusf pls check: https://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo/pull/19 | 00:39 |
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| locusf | sledges: sure | 07:17 |
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| vakkov | Mornin' | 07:31 |
| vakkov | got the blinking cursor on the n900 with wayland | 07:31 |
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| vakkov | now, how should i enable debugging | 07:31 |
| vakkov | anyone? | 07:35 |
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| locusf | sledges: LGTM with comments | 07:59 |
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| stephg | morning | 08:16 |
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| faenil | morning o7 | 08:18 |
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| stephg | faenil: looks painful ;) | 08:25 |
| faenil | stephg, soldiers! o/ | 08:25 |
| stephg | haha | 08:25 |
| stephg | oh yes | 08:25 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | hello | 08:53 |
| faenil | MFaro-Tusino, hey australian | 08:54 |
| MFaro-Tusino | hey andrea :) | 08:55 |
| faenil | :) | 08:55 |
| MFaro-Tusino | hows things? | 08:56 |
| faenil | good, good :) | 08:57 |
| faenil | how about over there | 08:57 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | not bad - near 8pm, flashing my N9 to nemo again | 08:57 |
| MFaro-Tusino | hahah | 08:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | morning guys | 08:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | MFaro-Tusino: :D | 08:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | trying the Sailfish MFaro-Tusino ? or just Nemo for fun ? | 08:57 |
| smokex | playing with sailfish on my 950 atm :P | 08:58 |
| MFaro-Tusino | sailfish again, now I know what to do | 08:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | MFaro-Tusino: :D | 08:59 |
| MFaro-Tusino | smokex: I can't flash my 950 yet, cause I don't want to part with Beta1 FW | 08:59 |
| MFaro-Tusino | :p | 08:59 |
| smokex | ubiboot + multiple partitions ftw | 08:59 |
| MFaro-Tusino | smokex: Oh don't start me on ubiboot hahaha | 09:00 |
| MFaro-Tusino | So much drama earlier in the week trying to flash it | 09:00 |
| smokex | I also have nitdroid | 09:00 |
| smokex | I didn't bother with firefox/ubuntu | 09:00 |
| smokex | where is the keyboard mapping file in sailfish/nemo? | 09:01 |
| MFaro-Tusino | you can get ubuntu on it? | 09:01 |
| smokex | apparently | 09:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | how's ubuntu ? | 09:02 |
| smokex | the biggest problem I have with nemo/sailfish right now is that they don't handle the N950 keyboard correctly | 09:02 |
| smokex | especially the function key | 09:02 |
| smokex | and caps | 09:02 |
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| smokex | I edited the key mapping files on nitdroid and got it working the same as harmatten | 09:03 |
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| smokex | I guess I could share the key map files if that would help anyone on nemo/sailfish | 09:03 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i guess it would just be finding the mapping file | 09:03 |
| smokex | yep | 09:04 |
| smokex | I'm wondering if the mapping files are device specific | 09:04 |
| smokex | I found some language specific files | 09:04 |
| smokex | but those won't work for the keyboard without breaking the soft keys | 09:05 |
| MFaro-Tusino | well if you get the nemo mapping file, it will be the same no? | 09:05 |
| faenil | smokex, kind of device specific | 09:05 |
| faenil | I spent some time on it few months ago | 09:05 |
| faenil | basically what I got to was that we need to take x11 keymappings and convert those to qmap (or whatever the format was) | 09:06 |
| faenil | so that evkeyboard can use those | 09:06 |
| smokex | what are the files | 09:07 |
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| faenil | smokex, I don't remember at the moment, let me have a quick look | 09:08 |
| MFaro-Tusino | erghhh nemo isn't booting | 09:08 |
| MFaro-Tusino | ffs! | 09:08 |
| faenil | MFaro-Tusino, describe issue -> we provide help | 09:11 |
| faenil | smokex, https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtbase/source/8206123d4a1663b04569a7a5256737b0eaa1249b:src/platformsupport/input/evdevkeyboard | 09:11 |
| faenil | smokex, ^ there's probably all you need there about the result that you should get | 09:11 |
| MFaro-Tusino | faenil: nemo does not boot :p | 09:11 |
| faenil | MFaro-Tusino, *not enough info* :P | 09:12 |
| MFaro-Tusino | moslo enters altos booting, screen stays black and after a few moments reboots to harmattan | 09:12 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I am extracting tar again | 09:12 |
| faenil | MFaro-Tusino, aha, so it *reboots* :P | 09:13 |
| smokex | MFaro-Tusino: what image are you using? | 09:13 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 09:14 |
| smokex | nemo-n950-rnd-20131205.tar.bz2 had that issue but nemo-n950-rnd-20131206.tar.bz2 worked fine | 09:15 |
| smokex | unless you're building yourself | 09:15 |
| MFaro-Tusino | 20131120 | 09:15 |
| smokex | ohh :D | 09:15 |
| MFaro-Tusino | ill go get 20131206 | 09:15 |
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| faenil | smokex, can't find the x11 keymaps atm | 09:19 |
| faenil | smokex, found it! | 09:22 |
| faenil | https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=_service%3Atar_git%3An950-support.patch&package=xkeyboard-config&project=mer-core%3Adevel&rev=b0c58a83def123ca295f87d969382421 | 09:22 |
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| faenil | smokex, now you should have everything needed :D | 09:23 |
| smokex | yesss thats what I needed :P | 09:23 |
| * faenil takes out the whip | 09:23 | |
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| MFaro-Tusino | i can just tar over the existing alt os right? | 09:25 |
| faenil | MFaro-Tusino, please rm -rf first | 09:26 |
| MFaro-Tusino | thats what i thought | 09:26 |
| MFaro-Tusino | was just hoping i wasn't right haha | 09:26 |
| faenil | MFaro-Tusino, are you that lazy? :P | 09:26 |
| MFaro-Tusino | shhhh, i am sick atm | 09:27 |
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| faenil | MFaro-Tusino, ahaha | 09:29 |
| faenil | wazd, o/ | 09:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | MFaro-Tusino: format | 09:29 |
| faenil | smokex, if you need more info, I'm here (not sure I recall much else though) | 09:30 |
| smokex | I was hoping it would all be in simple config files like its done on droid | 09:32 |
| smokex | done this way we have to recompile a few files | 09:32 |
| vakkov_ | ssh-ing to n900: vakko@192.168.2.15's password: | 09:32 |
| vakkov_ | i type nemo and Permission denied, please try again. | 09:33 |
| vakkov_ | oh, sudo .. | 09:33 |
| smokex | ah wait.. they are simple configs | 09:34 |
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| faenil | smokex, :P | 09:36 |
| faenil | smokex, just a matter of converting configs from one format to the other | 09:36 |
| faenil | (afaik) | 09:36 |
| smokex | yeah | 09:36 |
| smokex | should default to @ | 09:36 |
| smokex | / should default to @ | 09:37 |
| smokex | is @ + function button | 09:37 |
| smokex | / is @ + function button | 09:38 |
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| faenil | smokex, I think there was a tool to convert from x11 keymaps to kmap | 09:38 |
| faenil | and then from kmap to qmap | 09:39 |
| faenil | something like that | 09:39 |
| faenil | don't remember details | 09:39 |
| smokex | and I just found a bug in my jpnurmi's command parser | 09:39 |
| faenil | but you need something to convert the config files | 09:39 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Faenil: OT: Got knocked back by Nokia Aus - not qualified enough for social and digital execuetive | 09:39 |
| MFaro-Tusino | haha | 09:39 |
| faenil | MFaro-Tusino, :D well, next time :D | 09:40 |
| MFaro-Tusino | their loss :p | 09:40 |
| faenil | :D | 09:41 |
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| smokex | wonder why this keyboard show up as TWL4030 on android | 09:43 |
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| vakkov_ | http://pastebin.com/E3cPDRcS | 10:13 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, w00t ^ ( vakkov_ is trying to hack wsegl to make it work on n900) | 10:17 |
| faenil | vakkov_, not sure they're active right now though | 10:17 |
| niqt | faenil, vakkov_ contacted me for wayland on n900, I updated him about the problem that I had found | 10:20 |
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| rantom | What's the difference between ubiboot and modified moslo? | 10:39 |
| faenil | niqt, okay | 10:39 |
| rantom | A bit curious about this: http://www.jollausers.com/2013/12/sailfish-ported-to-n9-mini-tutorial/ and as far as I can tell the steps are close, if not same, as with modified moslo | 10:39 |
| faenil | rantom, with ubiboot you can tripleboot, not sure you can do it with moslo | 10:40 |
| faenil | and also, ubiboot has nice UI | 10:40 |
| faenil | about technical details, I have never looked deeply into their code, so I can't say | 10:40 |
| rantom | faenil: So one could just use modified moslo and loose, in this case, Nemo? | 10:40 |
| faenil | yes I think so | 10:41 |
| rantom | Alright, thanks | 10:41 |
| rantom | And there's always OCF for the N950 if it goes wrong :) | 10:41 |
| faenil | but I don't know sailfish on n9 details so I don't know if they make any assumption about ubiboot being installed ;) | 10:42 |
| rantom | (Just wanting to try out the Sailfish on N950, not really interested to move away from modified moslo since it already works) | 10:42 |
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| rantom | And last time I tried to remove modified moslo it caused some headdesking | 10:43 |
| rantom | But I'll try Sailfish with mod. moslo with the N950. Thanks again | 10:44 |
| MFaro-Tusino | faenil, random, assumptions are you have a way to boot nemo | 10:44 |
| faenil | ok | 10:45 |
| MFaro-Tusino | ubiboot or moslo it doesn't matter | 10:45 |
| faenil | alright, thanks | 10:45 |
| rantom | MFaro-Tusino: s/random/rantom ;) But alright, thought so too. Thanks | 10:45 |
| MFaro-Tusino | erghh, bloody OS X autocorrect | 10:45 |
| MFaro-Tusino | always makes nemo memo | 10:45 |
| rantom | Yeah, happened to me too a few times | 10:45 |
| rantom | PEBKAC has nothing to do with it, it's the OS's fault | 10:46 |
| MFaro-Tusino | yes :p | 10:46 |
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| smokex | faenil: it looks like the key mapping is correct in that config file but it isn't being loaded for some reason | 10:57 |
| smokex | you have / set to default to @ in the file but it still defaults to / when pressed | 10:58 |
| faenil | smokex, ? which file | 10:58 |
| smokex | /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rm-680 | 10:59 |
| smokex | english-base starts on line 962 | 11:01 |
| faenil | smokex, those files are not being used...we're not on x11 anymore | 11:02 |
| smokex | ah yeah.. that patch set you pointed me to was for that file | 11:03 |
| faenil | smokex, I think you misunderstood the problem :D | 11:03 |
| faenil | smokex, so what did you do with the qt files I pointed you to :) | 11:04 |
| smokex | let my battery run dead | 11:04 |
| smokex | :D | 11:04 |
| faenil | smokex, lol | 11:04 |
| faenil | smokex, ok so let me explain again :) | 11:04 |
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| faenil | we had x11 keymaps in Nemo x11 (hence SailfishX11) | 11:05 |
| faenil | now we're using Wayland in Nemo, and for keyboard we're using evdevkeyboard | 11:06 |
| faenil | so I pointed you to evdevkeyboard Qt plugin that Nemo is probably using | 11:06 |
| faenil | (sourcecode of the plugin) | 11:06 |
| faenil | what you have to do, to have old x11 keymaps working on wayland, is to convert those x11 keymaps to the qt evdevkeyboard plugin format | 11:07 |
| faenil | once you have converted the keymaps to the new format, you can try to use them (read the sourcecode I pointed you to, there is an env var which can include "keymap=<path>" ) | 11:07 |
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| smokex | are there any existing evdevkeyboard plugin files lying around in the tree somewhere | 11:09 |
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| faenil | smokex, yes there is an example qmap in that link iirc | 11:11 |
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| smokex | https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtbase/source/8206123d4a1663b04569a7a5256737b0eaa1249b:src/platformsupport/input/evdevkeyboard | 11:12 |
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| smokex | in this | 11:12 |
| merlin1991 | faenil: I've got err "intresting" problems with the wayland sb2 target "sb2 -t nemo-wayland qmake -qt5" --> "Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: gui" but the .pro only has "CONFIG += debug" | 11:13 |
| faenil | smokex, yes, there's a defaultmap tehre | 11:13 |
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| faenil | smokex, but I guess you can look for more info on the web | 11:13 |
| smokex | it tells me how to make a subclass | 11:13 |
| faenil | merlin1991, mmm dunno | 11:14 |
| smokex | so nemo doesn't have any keyboard plugins for wayland | 11:14 |
| faenil | smokex, well, it has the default one, which works | 11:14 |
| faenil | without fn keys etc | 11:14 |
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| smokex | where is the default one stored at.. what's what I've been asking you :D | 11:14 |
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| smokex | because when I make my own, I want to store it in the same place | 11:14 |
| faenil | smokex, told you to read the code :P | 11:15 |
| smokex | so its in /lib/qt5 something something something | 11:15 |
| faenil | smokex, I expect there is no defaul file, because the default keymaps probably come from that h file, which could be compiled directly in the plugin | 11:15 |
| faenil | smokex, but I could be wrong ;) | 11:15 |
| smokex | and I need to make a /usr/share/evdevkeyboard or something dir to stuck plugins in to | 11:16 |
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| smokex | atm the battery doesn't have enough juice for me to boot | 11:18 |
| faenil | smokex, google if someone has already done keymaps for the evdevkeyboard plugin as see where they stored them :) | 11:18 |
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| smokex | and getting it to charge with ubiboot trying to turn it on constantly because a usb cable is plugged in... pain :D | 11:21 |
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| coderus | faenil: ping | 11:25 |
| faenil | coderus, yes? | 11:25 |
| merlin1991 | so I've been following https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Wayland_Nemo_VM_Image#Setup_Wayland_VM_SB2_target but when I try to run qmake inside the mer chroot like this "sb2 -t nemo-wayland qmake -qt5" I get "Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: gui" anybody got some ideas? | 11:26 |
| coderus | how can i help nemo to display n9 battery state? | 11:26 |
| coderus | merlin1991: i thing gui is qt4 module name, not qt5 | 11:27 |
| coderus | merlin1991: quick qml is qt5 names | 11:27 |
| faenil | coderus, deztructor is the guy for that :) | 11:28 |
| merlin1991 | coderus: I don't reference the module anywhere afaik | 11:28 |
| faenil | merlin1991, I've always used mb to build stuff locally | 11:28 |
| merlin1991 | faenil: don't have a ready package, this is just a dirty source -> binary approach :D | 11:29 |
| coderus | faenil: so? need to wait when anybody does that? | 11:30 |
| faenil | coderus, no, deztructor can point you to what is needed to get that working | 11:30 |
| faenil | coderus, so that you can code/setup what's missing | 11:30 |
| coderus | okay | 11:31 |
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| coderus | deztructor: ? | 11:32 |
| rantom | (Got it working with modified moslo. Better off using instructions to extract from Nemo - Installing though, imo) | 11:34 |
| faenil | coderus, he has already explained what's needed at least one-two times in this channel, let me see if I can find some log | 11:35 |
| coderus | my sailfish srtup completely dead :D | 11:37 |
| coderus | s/strup/setup | 11:37 |
| merlin1991 | hm QT -= gui in the .pro file made qmake run | 11:37 |
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| merlin1991 | but I really wonder what the problem is here | 11:37 |
| coderus | merlin1991: no hui module in qt5 | 11:37 |
| coderus | ;D | 11:37 |
| coderus | s/hui/gui | 11:38 |
| merlin1991 | yeah but it's included by /usr/share/qt5/mkspecs/features/spec_pre.prf | 11:38 |
| merlin1991 | and if you look at http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtdoc/qmake-project-files.html#declaring-qt-libraries then it says that gui is included per default (and part of QT5) | 11:39 |
| coderus | faenil: can you give me direct link to fingerterm rpm? | 11:39 |
| faenil | coderus, you can find it on Mer OBS | 11:40 |
| coderus | merlin1991: maybe i missing it with something else | 11:40 |
| coderus | faenil: link please | 11:40 |
| faenil | coderus, lazy :P | 11:40 |
| faenil | coderus, http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/apps/latest_armv7hl/armv7hl/fingerterm-1.1.7-12.9.Nemo.Apps.armv7hl.rpm | 11:42 |
| coderus | tkanks ;) | 11:44 |
| merlin1991 | coderus: I fixed it with gui, I had to install qt5-qtgui-devel to the target ... | 11:44 |
| faenil | coderus, some info here, until time 11:20 | 11:47 |
| faenil | http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2013-10-21.log.html#t2013-10-21T11:07:49 | 11:47 |
| faenil | merlin1991, makes sense | 11:48 |
| merlin1991 | ah shit I broke my sailfish sdk | 11:49 |
| merlin1991 | ssh public keys don't work anymore | 11:49 |
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| coderus | mount vm image with loop and change authorized keys | 11:51 |
| merlin1991 | which authorized keys file applies though? | 11:52 |
| coderus | torwhat are you talking about? | 11:52 |
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| coderus | sorry wront channel | 11:53 |
| merlin1991 | I added a /home/mersdk/.ssh/authorized keys file inside the sdk vm, but still can't ssh in | 11:53 |
| coderus | you need add to mer vm | 11:53 |
| coderus | you can start mer vm via vmware ui and get intercative root console | 11:54 |
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| merlin1991 | hm that's because it's in /etc/ssh/authorized_keys/%u/authorized_keys | 11:54 |
| merlin1991 | ffs | 11:54 |
| deztructor | coderus: there was discussion with some guys here regarding it. maybe they are working on it | 11:59 |
| deztructor | maybe not | 11:59 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I can just flash the moslo zimage directly instead of loading it for the N9 the same with open mode correct? | 12:00 |
| deztructor | what should be basically done is to port code of bme contextkit-nemo provider and create power provider for n9 | 12:00 |
| coderus | faenil: cant install package by same issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6545472/ | 12:00 |
| deztructor | similar to upower one | 12:00 |
| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: why not to use ubiboot!? | 12:00 |
| MFaro-Tusino | coderus: because I don't like it - it gave me a headache eveytime I have tried it. I was debugging for 4 hours last week because of it, use moslo method once and within 30mins, I was ready to go haha | 12:01 |
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| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: lol, sad story. | 12:04 |
| deztructor | coderus: so, there is https://github.com/nemomobile/contextkit-nemo/tree/master/maemo/power and bmeipc.[ch]. It can be taken and something similar to https://github.com/nemomobile/statefs-providers/tree/master/src/upower can be created. This is very easy task but it is in the end of my list so if you have ability to do it, it'd be good | 12:04 |
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| smokex | hm it shouldn't be gui in Qt5 it should be widgets instead | 12:13 |
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| smokex | not sure why widgets would be used under nemo though | 12:17 |
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| faenil | coderus, is your time on the phone correct? | 12:29 |
| faenil | time *and* date | 12:29 |
| faenil | coderus, and it seems deztructor gave some nice instructions there :) | 12:30 |
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| coderus | faenil: sure | 12:32 |
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| faenil | coderus, was that an answer to the time? | 12:34 |
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| coderus | faenil: for time, yes | 12:36 |
| coderus | now i'm under chroot to nemo from harmattan | 12:36 |
| coderus | it even not pinging | 12:36 |
| faenil | coderus, ok..because the link is valid and works, so it must be some network issue | 12:36 |
| faenil | is your harmattan correctly connected? | 12:38 |
| faenil | can you ping stuff without chroot? | 12:38 |
| coderus | yup | 12:38 |
| faenil | mm :/ | 12:38 |
| coderus | can you ping that and show me? | 12:38 |
| faenil | coderus, I have already tried downloading the file | 12:39 |
| coderus | ping releases.jolla.com | 12:39 |
| faenil | ping to the top domain is not important | 12:39 |
| faenil | it could be filtered or whatever | 12:40 |
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| faenil | coderus, maybe it's just dns issue? | 12:43 |
| coderus | faenil: no, resolved correctly | 12:45 |
| faenil | coderus, so ping www.google.com works? | 12:46 |
| coderus | faenil: sure :) | 12:46 |
| faenil | coderus, don't know then :/ | 12:50 |
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| sdjayna | faenil, codeurs: guessing but http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/415340-configuring-yast2-zypper.html ? | 12:56 |
| sdjayna | and http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/wmeLD0UOwydWAgnDZnwk | 12:56 |
| sdjayna | i don't have anything to experiment with locally i'm afraid | 12:56 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | connection refused to telnet :/ | 13:39 |
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| alin_ | hi any news on mer running on nexus 5 | 15:27 |
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| krnlyng | whats the 3.5 kernel status? what can a enduser expect to work and what not if it would be dropped into a running nemo installation? | 17:18 |
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| vgrade_ | krnlyng:https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/N9_Kernel_update_project | 17:26 |
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| krnlyng | vgrade_: i saw the table, but what does that imply? what does work from the sight of a user and what doesnt? | 17:29 |
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| sledges | krnlyng: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2013-12-06.log.html#t2013-12-06T19:21:29 | 17:52 |
| sledges | more nicknames for you to ping :) | 17:52 |
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| krnlyng | sledges: has nobody tried it or is it just too tedious? | 17:54 |
| sledges | well, from what you've read - many tried | 17:56 |
| sledges | just need to put all together and done with remaining blockers | 17:57 |
| sledges | best to ask people in question: Hurrian , filip (sadly he's not around atm) | 17:58 |
| sledges | and join the team :) | 17:58 |
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| krnlyng | sledges: thanks | 18:22 |
| sledges | welcome | 18:22 |
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| Mric | Sedges,hey I saw that you were talking earlier about the kernel update ! I understand that it is newer version but what does it change pratically to the phone or development ? | 18:32 |
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| krnlyng | Mric: maybe better sailfish compatibility :D | 18:36 |
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| Mric | krmlyng, is that an educated guess or true ? :) | 18:42 |
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| Mric | krnlyng, ? | 18:43 |
| Mric | qwazix, I never told you but I think you are doing an incredible job with nemo design ! | 18:44 |
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| qwazix | thank you very much. Appreciated :-) | 18:44 |
| krnlyng | Mric: it's what i think, so maybe | 18:45 |
| krnlyng | there is a kernel module i'd like to use from the sailfish kernel | 18:45 |
| krnlyng | and a newer kernel version should help | 18:45 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: btw, thought about u again | 18:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (you know that my nightmare is "u") | 18:47 |
| * sledges dims the lights | 18:47 | |
| qwazix | hehe | 18:47 |
| qwazix | so? | 18:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | we can do something nice by getting some experimental patches in mer qt 5 | 18:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | something I don't realy want to do for now | 18:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or we can create a theme object like the sailfish one | 18:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that provides paddingSmall/medium/large computed with "u" in mind | 18:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | something easy, but temporary | 18:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | what do you think ? | 18:49 |
| qwazix | IMO the right thing is for Qt to do this thing, but a downstream patch isn't the best solution | 18:49 |
| qwazix | another idea I had was a preprocessor | 18:49 |
| sledges | qwazix: Sfiet_Konstantin: whilst talking on "u", please read wazd's comments on our revolutionary svg2png_on_install idea: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2013-12-06.log.html#t2013-12-06T14:21:34 | 18:49 |
| sledges | he says it would be blurry if we don't keep it to grid | 18:50 |
| qwazix | (find ^\d+u$ in all qml files and replace it with a number | 18:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: hum ... | 18:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | can be interesting | 18:51 |
| qwazix | sledges, it will, but (a) over 200ppi you can't see that and (b) we can keep it to grid | 18:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but we shouldn't allow devs to write 30u for sizes | 18:51 |
| sledges | qwazix: nod : | 18:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | should we ? shouldn't we make the translation automatically, like write 30 => 30u | 18:52 |
| qwazix | (b) use snap-to-grid when designing the svg's like Morpog does | 18:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I like the preprocessor thing though | 18:52 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | even if, in our case, we don't even need preprocessor, it can be integrated in theme if u is eplicitely written | 18:52 |
| qwazix | Sfiet_Konstantin, that would be the perfect solution, but good luck finding all numbers that are supposed to be distances with a regex :P | 18:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: yes indeed ... | 18:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | let's do this right now | 18:53 |
| qwazix | because a number might be something else | 18:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | compute in runtime u, and inject it in theme object | 18:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | make developers use "u" in expressions | 18:54 |
| qwazix | like width: 15*u ? | 18:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | if Qt in mer got matured in the cross-platform highdpi support front, then change u as 1, and scale automatically in Qt side | 18:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: yep, as a temporary solution | 18:54 |
| qwazix | Sfiet_Konstantin, does this work without namespace? | 18:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | right now, all numbers (sizes loaded from theme) can be "u-ed" easily | 18:55 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | since they are provided by the theme object | 18:55 |
| qwazix | because it's gonna be annoying to have to write 15*theme.u every time | 18:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: what do you mean by namespace ? | 18:55 |
| qwazix | ^^ | 18:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: I see ... | 18:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yes it can | 18:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | setContextProperty("u", 1234); | 18:55 |
| qwazix | duh, ofc | 18:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will be back to nemo soon | 18:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because I want to hack the list items | 18:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 18:57 |
| sledges | \o/ | 18:57 |
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| Morpog_N9_ | \o/ | 18:57 |
| qwazix | (btw this is better than ubuntu touch solution with diu(15) as you spare a function call) | 18:57 |
| qwazix | yay! | 18:57 |
| qwazix | (about list items) | 18:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: ?? | 18:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | diu ? | 18:58 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: I precompute u, and it is cached, so no functions call | 18:58 |
| qwazix | ubuntu touch (IIRC) uses a function to multiply all sizes (something like our u) and they call it diu() | 18:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but in the other hand, we have a V8 JS eval | 18:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so I don't know | 18:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | i guess it is rather the same | 18:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or maybe diu() in js side also crates a JS eval | 18:59 |
| sledges | PSA: glacier components gallery is now launchable from .desktop and is in patterns as of today (so do `zypper ref; zypper in -t pattern nemo-apps-wayland`) | 18:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and calling u with contextProperty is solving a context thing, so maybe cost of an access, like reading in a QMap | 18:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: <3 | 18:59 |
| * sledges is still near the light switch :)) | 19:00 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: but actually I don't know why I care about the cost of getting u or diu, it is close to nothing anyway | 19:01 |
| sledges | also, this gallery is now using 99% Open Sans (no more ugly serif font) | 19:01 |
| qwazix | Sfiet_Konstantin, I really don't know much about performance :| | 19:01 |
| qwazix | Sfiet_Konstantin, it might be when you have complex dynamic layouts | 19:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: I know a bit. Some articles by kdab on planetkde about qml perfs were quite nice | 19:01 |
| qwazix | and we intend to do resizable windows if performance allows | 19:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: should be ok | 19:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | bindings ftw | 19:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | no bindings | 19:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | anchors | 19:02 |
| qwazix | (faenil is pessimistic) | 19:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: we'll see | 19:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | should be ok | 19:02 |
| faenil | :P | 19:02 |
| faenil | never be optimistic when it comes to performance expense | 19:03 |
| faenil | :P | 19:03 |
| qwazix | lol, correct | 19:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: go back to optimize Jolla | 19:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :P:P | 19:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | though faenil's not wrong, but I guess that perfs problems can be elsewhere too | 19:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | like opengl drivers :P | 19:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (or calls) | 19:04 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, I'm still in the office, fwiw :P | 19:04 |
| faenil | Stskeeps won't take my handcuffs off! | 19:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: :/ | 19:05 |
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| Stskeeps | faenil: i forgot to tell you to go home? | 19:07 |
| faenil | ahahah | 19:07 |
| qwazix | Stskeeps, we don't believe you, we know you have him chained to the keyboard | 19:08 |
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| faenil | qwazix, thank you Michael, finally someone who believes the poor intern | 19:09 |
| qwazix | :) | 19:11 |
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| vakkov | should i use mer qt creator to build ti-omap3-sgx-wayland-wsegl | 20:51 |
| merlin1991 | juiceme: I finished the importer http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1394081&postcount=14 | 20:51 |
| special | merlin1991: I would guess that the segfault is because of the global groupModel/eventModel | 20:58 |
| special | they'll be destructed after QApplication | 20:58 |
| vakkov | or just qmake? | 20:59 |
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| merlin1991 | special: I was suspectiong something like that | 21:01 |
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| merlin1991 | btw special is there any specific way to nuke the messages db? rming the .db file in ~/.local/share ... requires a reboot of the emulator (probably only of the right services) in order for it to work again | 21:05 |
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| special | merlin1991: that's the best way. | 21:06 |
| special | you can delete everything with "commhistory-tool deleteAll", but services still need to be restarted before they'll behave correctly (although this shouldn't matter for the emulator) | 21:06 |
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| merlin1991 | I've placed the models globally because I was to lazy todo it proper :D | 21:13 |
| merlin1991 | s/to/too/ | 21:13 |
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| vakkov | come ooon | 21:31 |
| vakkov | sb help mee | 21:32 |
| merlin1991 | vakkov: if you just want to build something qmake is enough | 21:35 |
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| vakkov | merlin1991: I want to directly build it for arm | 21:42 |
| vakkov | and since i just reinstalled my linux and i don't remember how i did it before :D a little help would be appreciated :D | 21:43 |
| vakkov | qmake only makes a MakeFile | 21:43 |
| merlin1991 | you need a installed mersdk | 21:43 |
| merlin1991 | with a valid sb2 target for arm | 21:43 |
| merlin1991 | then you run qmake and make inside sb2 -> arm binary | 21:44 |
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| juiceme | merlin1991, hi | 21:52 |
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| juiceme | merlin1991, I'll see how it behaves on SailfishOS, let's see if it throws exceptions there :) | 21:53 |
| merlin1991 | it's going to throw the segfault for sure | 21:54 |
| merlin1991 | also it does create new dialogs for everything you import | 21:54 |
| merlin1991 | so if you've got sms already those will have their own thread even if phone numbers match | 21:54 |
| juiceme | one thing caught my mind when I looked at the CSV format you're using... what happens if there's semicolons in a body of a SMS message? :) | 21:55 |
| special | merlin1991: is that true after a reboot? | 21:55 |
| merlin1991 | special: yea | 21:55 |
| special | with jolla's message client, or nemo's? | 21:55 |
| merlin1991 | special: nemo | 21:55 |
| special | okay, right. | 21:55 |
| special | in jolla's they'll appear together | 21:55 |
| merlin1991 | special: I'm still waiting for my jolla (actually waiting for my tracking code) | 21:56 |
| merlin1991 | juiceme: that's why the message is the last bit in the structure and I'm cutting it out this way: https://github.com/merlin1991/Harmattan-SMS-Boat/blob/master/jollaImport/smsIm.cpp#L70 | 21:56 |
| juiceme | merlin1991, would it be worth while export the SMS'es I've already received on my Jolla, merge the 2 files, delete SMS'es from jolla and load up the combined SMS file? | 21:56 |
| juiceme | merlin1991, ah yes, then it does not matter what's in the data part :) | 21:57 |
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| merlin1991 | juiceme: at least make a backup of the db in ~/.local/share/commhistory... | 21:57 |
| juiceme | yes, I will :) | 21:58 |
| qwazix | how is th jolla browser called? I wonder if I could install silica + browser on nemo, without installing the whole jolla UI | 21:58 |
| krnlyng | qwazix: sailfish-browser i think | 21:59 |
| qwazix | krnlyng, thanks | 21:59 |
| sledges | vakkov: use mb tool: mb build -t armv7hl_nemo_target rpm/ti-sgx-.....spec | 21:59 |
| krnlyng | qwazix: just checked it, yes, sailfish-browser | 21:59 |
| krnlyng | (thats the package name) | 22:00 |
| sledges | vakkov: how to build that target: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Armv7hl_Development_Guide | 22:01 |
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| qwazix | uninstallable providers: jolla-ambient-0.3.20-10.33.1.jolla.noarch[jolla] | 22:05 |
| qwazix | Solution 1: deinstallation of nemo-theme-glacier-0.0.4-4.1.Nemo.UX.MTF.noarch | 22:05 |
| qwazix | why does glacier conflict with ambient? | 22:05 |
| krnlyng | qwazix: to install sailfish at this step you would choose deinstall nemo-theme-glacier :) | 22:05 |
| krnlyng | but i don't know if this works for you :) | 22:06 |
| qwazix | can't we think of something so that both could live at the same time? | 22:06 |
| qwazix | krnlyng, I'm not trying to install sailfish | 22:06 |
| krnlyng | i know | 22:06 |
| krnlyng | you could try breaking dependancies,... but that probably fails too | 22:06 |
| sledges | because glacier depends on meegotouch-theme-darko ? (/me unsure) | 22:06 |
| qwazix | yeah, prolly | 22:06 |
| qwazix | sledges, krnlyng if we manage to do that, it might be very good for nemo as it will be possible to use it as daily device, albeit with some jolla closed components | 22:07 |
| sledges | glacier pulls darko so the graphics set is still complete | 22:07 |
| qwazix | sledges, :nod: | 22:07 |
| sledges | if we break this bond, newly created image wont have darko | 22:07 |
| sledges | and old gallery and apps will look skeletonish | 22:08 |
| sledges | we keep darko still, whilst porting will take place of old apps to glacier qqc | 22:08 |
| sledges | after we can get rid of darko | 22:08 |
| sledges | (we will ;)) | 22:08 |
| qwazix | hmm... | 22:08 |
| sledges | so, don't know about solution for now.. :/ | 22:08 |
| qwazix | so you say if I remove darko, I might be able to do what I'm trying to do? | 22:08 |
| sledges | i hope | 22:09 |
| sledges | iirc, this was the root of jolla theme conflict | 22:09 |
| sledges | remove darko | 22:09 |
| sledges | and break dep | 22:09 |
| sledges | should do ;) | 22:09 |
| qwazix | thx, I'll try (if I don't break the system first) | 22:09 |
| qwazix | :P | 22:09 |
| sledges | no, jolla theme uses nemo-theme-default and dislikes darko | 22:10 |
| sledges | ^_^ | 22:10 |
| * qwazix starts to like zypper | 22:10 | |
| merlin1991 | special: does the jolla messages ui merge the actual groups, or does it just join them in display? | 22:10 |
| sledges | +1 | 22:10 |
| special | merlin1991: joined for display. It's part of the "combined instant messaging and SMS conversations" feature. | 22:11 |
| sledges | i can remove darko from glacier dependencies, and add darko into patterns for now (until we finally bin darko) | 22:11 |
| sledges | but will wait for your test outcome qwazix | 22:11 |
| qwazix | hmm, let's see if I manage to actually run browser, and that might be useful | 22:11 |
| qwazix | yep | 22:11 |
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| qwazix | sledges, how do I remove sth without removing it's dependents? | 22:14 |
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| sledges | thanks faenil, now I know when you appear :D | 22:15 |
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| faenil | :) | 22:16 |
| sledges | qwazix: don't know :/ | 22:16 |
| sledges | only conflicts bring up the Solution * menu? | 22:17 |
| qwazix | :nod: | 22:17 |
| * qwazix hates forum replys of the type "why would you want to do that?" | 22:17 | |
| qwazix | replies* | 22:17 |
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| sledges | I think it's safe to gut darko out from glacier theme | 22:18 |
| * sledges goes and does that | 22:18 | |
| Morpog_PC | we could also do it the dirty way and move everything from darko over to glacier theme | 22:20 |
| qwazix | now with darko out of the way, it seems that I can install browser | 22:20 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, or just quick-dirty hack flat colors | 22:21 |
| qwazix | so that it looks like glacier | 22:21 |
| Morpog_PC | not sure if that is worth the effort | 22:22 |
| qwazix | to be frank I don't know how much effort it is | 22:22 |
| qwazix | yay! it works | 22:23 |
| qwazix | (now I don't know if I reboot what'll happen) | 22:23 |
| qwazix | I fear I will be booted into sailfihs | 22:23 |
| Morpog_PC | about 500 graphics files | 22:24 |
| sledges | write a flood filler script? | 22:25 |
| qwazix | has some graphics issues, but it works | 22:25 |
| qwazix | now time to reboot | 22:25 |
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| qwazix | still nemo bootscreen, so we're still good to go | 22:27 |
| qwazix | we lost glacier icons | 22:27 |
| sledges | qwazix: perform: | 22:28 |
| sledges | Config_Src=`/usr/bin/gconftool-2 --get-default-source` | 22:28 |
| qwazix | and old apps still look okay | 22:28 |
| sledges | usr/bin/gconftool-2 --direct --config-source $Config_Src -g /meegotouch/theme/name | 22:28 |
| qwazix | as root? | 22:29 |
| sledges | nope | 22:29 |
| sledges | normal user | 22:29 |
| sledges | slash before /usr ofc.. | 22:30 |
| merlin1991 | special: I fixed the segfault by allocating the models on the heap and having the QCoreApplication as their parent, thanks for the tipp :) | 22:30 |
| qwazix | (gconftool-2:657): GConf-WARNING **: None of the resolved addresses are writable; saving configuration settings will not be possible | 22:30 |
| qwazix | jolla-ambient | 22:30 |
| sledges | qwazix: that's why no more glacier icons.. | 22:30 |
| sledges | we need to introduce some hierarchy.. | 22:30 |
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| sledges | but it will be a nice challenge to marry all things together | 22:30 |
| special | merlin1991: cool | 22:31 |
| sledges | as in, one may want to have jolla side-by-side nemo, other cases not | 22:31 |
| sledges | (theme supports inheritance now fwiw) | 22:31 |
| qwazix | sledges, hahaha, sailfish-settings appears as a rotated window on the top right corner of the screen | 22:31 |
| qwazix | and I now realize that is the cover | 22:32 |
| Morpog_PC | we already have the same browser, just no UI for it | 22:33 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, true | 22:34 |
| qwazix | but as long as I have a browser, and calls+sms work, I can use nemo as my main phone | 22:34 |
| Morpog_PC | you are brave :) | 22:35 |
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| qwazix | yeah, ok, I don't know how much I'll hold. Until some alarms fail to go off | 22:35 |
| qwazix | :P | 22:35 |
| merlin1991 | juiceme: new binary is on the original link | 22:35 |
| qwazix | anyway sailfish browser on nemo can't be called usable right now anyway | 22:35 |
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| * Morpog_Mobile and here he is | 22:39 | |
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| qwazix | going back to nemo now, without darko, to see what'll happen | 22:40 |
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| sledges | qwazix: how will you do that? | 22:41 |
| sledges | (hint: zypper in -f nemo-theme-glacier) | 22:41 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Wouldnt`t that pull darko back? | 22:42 |
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| sledges | if qwazix waits 5minutes, it wont *g* | 22:43 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Lol | 22:43 |
| qwazix | I can wait :) | 22:43 |
| faenil | qwazix, do alarms work? :D | 22:43 |
| sledges | ok, 5 minute done | 22:43 |
| sledges | :D | 22:43 |
| sledges | qwazix: zypper ref and then the one above | 22:44 |
| sledges | darko wont come back | 22:44 |
| qwazix | faenil, dunno, browser is first priority :P | 22:44 |
| Morpog_Mobile | I still wonder how sailfishbrowser could be that crippled | 22:44 |
| faenil | qwazix, ehhe | 22:44 |
| qwazix | faenil, N810 works perfectly as bedside clock | 22:44 |
| faenil | lol | 22:44 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Coderus alone did a more complete ui twice | 22:44 |
| qwazix | Morpog_Mobile, is it that crippled? | 22:45 |
| fk_lx | qwazix: N810 can worked as an oversized smart watch ;-) | 22:45 |
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| fk_lx | *work | 22:45 |
| krnlyng | it's weird | 22:45 |
| krnlyng | but i've not used it yet | 22:45 |
| Morpog_Mobile | No landscape support says all qwazix | 22:45 |
| qwazix | ah, true | 22:46 |
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| krnlyng | just started and looked a bit | 22:46 |
| Eztran | Well, Jolla are looking for a Browser Engineer, right? | 22:47 |
| qwazix | since when doesn't nemo shut down when locked? | 22:47 |
| qwazix | or I still have some jolla leftovers? | 22:48 |
| faenil | Morpog_Mobile, believe me, you don't want to go into that world ;) | 22:48 |
| faenil | Morpog_Mobile, just because the UI rotates and you see things in landscape it doesn't mean things are going to work :D | 22:48 |
| qwazix | yay, my icons are back | 22:49 |
| Morpog_Mobile | faenil: I followed embedlite development for a good while, so yes I don't :) | 22:49 |
| sledges | qwazix: doesnt come to the darko side anymore? ;) | 22:49 |
| Morpog_Mobile | faenil: did u try meefox on n9? | 22:49 |
| faenil | Morpog_Mobile, nope | 22:49 |
| qwazix | sledges, you are right, without darko old apps are unusable | 22:49 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Its quite good | 22:50 |
| sledges | qwazix: but now if you install darko. and later switch to jolla, jolla will tell you to remove darko i think | 22:50 |
| qwazix | so that means that jolla did something about it, because while I had jolla ambient installed, I could still see toolbars and stuff | 22:50 |
| qwazix | also the "app in front of lockscreen" bug is back | 22:50 |
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| sledges | qwazix: cant remember it being gone : | 22:51 |
| sledges | } | 22:51 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Sure it was gone | 22:51 |
| qwazix | orly? I thought it was gone | 22:51 |
| qwazix | I also seem to recall somebody announcing it was gone | 22:52 |
| sledges | probably i overslept those times :) (or still had my n9 under life support only) | 22:52 |
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| sledges | i think giucam fixed it, but PR not gotten accepted | 22:55 |
| sledges | yes | 22:55 |
| sledges | https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/pull/27 | 22:55 |
| sledges | but first this needs to be accepted: | 22:55 |
| sledges | https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/pull/94 | 22:56 |
| sledges | faenil was the last to poke mikkoharju, unsuccessfully though | 22:56 |
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| qwazix | the PoC of running sailfish apps on nemo worked, if we can stop ambient from hijacking nemo theme we could boast sailfish compatibility :P | 22:58 |
| Morpog_Mobile | No wonder contributors stay away :( | 22:58 |
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| qwazix | It's getting late. Goodnight all! | 23:04 |
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| sledges | nite qwazix | 23:05 |
| sledges | yes, we'll need to mastermind a good sailfish-nemo coexistance | 23:05 |
| sledges | easily decoupleable will be most challenging | 23:05 |
| qwazix | yeah | 23:05 |
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| qwazix | but I think it'll help to get more people on board | 23:06 |
| sledges | valid point | 23:06 |
| qwazix | cya tomorrow o/ | 23:07 |
| sledges | ciaoz | 23:07 |
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| smokex | are the /lib/kbd/keymaps files used by nemo | 23:11 |
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| faenil | smokex, rpm -qf <file> and see which package they're part of | 23:17 |
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| smokex | kbd | 23:21 |
| faenil | smokex, ? | 23:21 |
| smokex | kbd-1.15.3-1.1.8.armv7h1 | 23:26 |
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| smokex | interesting the package isn't installed but the files are present in all nemo images | 23:33 |
| smokex | along with all those X11 keyboard files I mentioned yesterday | 23:33 |
| vgrade | this is a new one on jolla account login "Problem with finding device IMEI" | 23:33 |
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| smokex | ah typo | 23:50 |
| smokex | yeah its installed | 23:50 |
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| smokex | hey MFaro-Tusino | 23:54 |
| vgrade | audio fixed in kickstart and updated to latest OTA , https://github.com/martinbrook/jolla-n950-kickstart | 23:54 |
| MFaro-Tusino | hey smokex | 23:55 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Great news cgrade | 23:55 |
| MFaro-Tusino | erggh | 23:55 |
| MFaro-Tusino | *vgrade | 23:56 |
| vgrade | time next | 23:56 |
| MFaro-Tusino | yay | 23:56 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Whats the time command btw? | 23:56 |
| vgrade | It looks like a jolla oneshot is reading from jolla hardware RTC and as this is not there on n950 you don't get the right time | 23:58 |
| vgrade | need to replace the jolla oneshot and replace with nemo functionality | 23:59 |
| MFaro-Tusino | ahhh okay | 23:59 |
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