| MFaro-Tusino | I want to have a chat with metacuong - anyone know who he/she is and how to get in touch, besides their personal email that they left in the Sailfish Tar that has been distributed | 00:00 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | *facepalm* | 00:00 |
| vgrade | MFaro-Tusino: was that the max image? | 00:01 |
| smokex | maybe we could call the contacts they left and ask | 00:01 |
| smokex | lol | 00:01 |
| MFaro-Tusino | max? | 00:01 |
| MFaro-Tusino | smokex: I'm not calling vietnam :p | 00:02 |
| vgrade | MFaro-Tusino: max83 on TMO | 00:04 |
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| smokex | well I have all the number codes for our keys written down now | 00:06 |
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| smokex | altgr should be 125 | 00:06 |
| smokex | left shit 42 | 00:07 |
| smokex | shift | 00:07 |
| smokex | what is sym usually for? | 00:07 |
| MFaro-Tusino | vgrade: yes it would appear the image i have is from Max83 | 00:07 |
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| smokex | 53 should default to @ and altgr+@ should become / | 00:08 |
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| smokex | 97 is RCTRL | 00:09 |
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| vakkov | after editing /etc/network/interfaces for usb neworking my ubuntu waits for a couple of minutes on booting time - "Waiting up to 60s more for network configuration..." | 07:11 |
| vakkov | and when it finally starts i have to manually start network-manager :( | 07:11 |
| vakkov | the same happens with Mint | 07:13 |
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| smokex | same happens on arch/kde | 07:15 |
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| faenil | smokex, writing keymappings by hand? :D | 07:20 |
| smokex | well I don't have a kmap | 07:20 |
| faenil | smokex, have you looked for the x11->kmap conversion tool? | 07:20 |
| smokex | mmmm | 07:21 |
| smokex | hope it works on arch :D | 07:21 |
| faenil | smokex, why, why,why, don't, you listeeeen :D | 07:21 |
| * faenil sings along :D | 07:21 | |
| smokex | listen to waht lol | 07:22 |
| smokex | you haven't really told me very much lol | 07:22 |
| smokex | I thought you probably wanted me to do it the hard way | 07:22 |
| smokex | learn etc | 07:23 |
| faenil | smokex, http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2013-12-09.log.html#t2013-12-09T09:05:43 | 07:23 |
| faenil | yeah sure, if you want to do it by hand you're free ;) | 07:23 |
| faenil | smokex, oh look! :D http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2013-12-09.log.html#t2013-12-09T09:38:58 | 07:24 |
| smokex | well I'm not going to write a serilaised qmap file by hand | 07:24 |
| faenil | good :D | 07:24 |
| smokex | I'm pretty sure the kmap is plain text? | 07:25 |
| smokex | but since you said there was an x11 -> kmap tool I'll just find and use that | 07:27 |
| smokex | chbcomp looks like | 07:28 |
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| smokex | ckbcomp | 07:30 |
| smokex | oh faenil you told me this.. how did I not see that lol! | 07:31 |
| * faenil whistles | 07:31 | |
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| MFaro-Tusino | hey faenil! | 07:32 |
| faenil | MFaro-Tusino, o/ | 07:32 |
| MFaro-Tusino | any idea how sailfish settings > about gets the Manufacturer and product name>? | 07:33 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I know the version is from /etc/sailfish-release | 07:33 |
| faenil | MFaro-Tusino, no, don't know atm | 07:34 |
| faenil | btw, bbl people o/ bus in a few mins | 07:34 |
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| smokex | actually part of this looks like a bug in the input | 07:37 |
| smokex | MFaro-Tusino: open the text message app and press the upper case button and do an upper case letter | 07:38 |
| smokex | you'll get ?L for example | 07:38 |
| smokex | the text input is getting key presses that it shouldn't and adding them to the text document | 07:39 |
| smokex | if you are at the end of the text and press right arrow you also get ? | 07:39 |
| smokex | do you get the same? | 07:40 |
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| smokex | I have a feeling this stuff will need to be figured out before anyone does a keyboard other half | 07:42 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | No, I get L | 07:45 |
| MFaro-Tusino | wait, do you mean on the N950 kbd? | 07:46 |
| smokex | yep | 07:46 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | Ahh - give me a few minutes to install it :p | 07:47 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Now I got the method perfected on N9 | 07:48 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I will need to flash it to PR 1.3 though right? | 07:48 |
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| smokex | yeah | 07:49 |
| smokex | mine has been flashed to PR 1.3 for 3 years lol | 07:49 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | 3 years? | 07:50 |
| smokex | sounds right.. when did nokia kill harmatten | 07:50 |
| MFaro-Tusino | You had PR 1.3 when before the N950 was seeded to developers | 07:50 |
| smokex | I got the pr 1.3 about 2 weeks after it came out on N9 | 07:50 |
| MFaro-Tusino | (N9 launched in 2011) | 07:50 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Yeah, okay, I got it a few days later and posted it online | 07:51 |
| MFaro-Tusino | So we had it the same time | 07:51 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I gave that N950 to a friend of mine, but my second N950 is still on Beta 1 and untouched, will need to unbox it finally :p | 07:51 |
| smokex | really? I developed Qt for that long before Nokia self destructed | 07:52 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Yes, N8 was 2010 | 07:52 |
| MFaro-Tusino | N9 got me into linux and developing in Qt | 07:52 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Anyway, time to go open my N950 | 07:52 |
| smokex | I was writing a cross platform P2P app I started in 2009 | 07:52 |
| smokex | which still isn't finished.. | 07:53 |
| smokex | kk | 07:53 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | Before I flash my N950 off Beta 1, does anybody need anything? | 07:58 |
| smokex | a new screen for my N950? :D | 07:59 |
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| smokex | I have a big black dot in the bottom right corner lol | 08:00 |
| faenil | o/ | 08:00 |
| MFaro-Tusino | hahah - sorry - can't do that! | 08:00 |
| smokex | wb faenil | 08:00 |
| faenil | thx | 08:00 |
| MFaro-Tusino | seeing as nobody wants anything, PR 1.3 N950 flash underway | 08:01 |
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| sledges | Morpog_Mobile: https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/pull/123 \o/ | 08:11 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | hahah sledges | 08:13 |
| sledges | great news to start the day :) | 08:15 |
| MFaro-Tusino | smokex: few more minutes - my N950 was completely dead, so charging it enough to flash | 08:17 |
| smokex | kk | 08:17 |
| smokex | the terminal doesn't seem to have that problem | 08:17 |
| MFaro-Tusino | the ?L problem? | 08:18 |
| smokex | yeah | 08:18 |
| smokex | all the silica based apps do though | 08:18 |
| MFaro-Tusino | so then messaging key mapping is off | 08:18 |
| MFaro-Tusino | yeah, finger term is memo right? | 08:19 |
| smokex | yep | 08:19 |
| smokex | maemo/nemo | 08:19 |
| sledges | vakkov: smokex: we need patch from jolla where usb always has dame mac address, and then ask nm to ignore it. for now i ssh via wifi | 08:19 |
| sledges | *same :$ | 08:19 |
| vakkov | well my only option is via usb since i am trying to get wayland to run on the n900 | 08:21 |
| sledges | vakkov: connman-test ? | 08:22 |
| vakkov | should try that | 08:23 |
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| faenil | sledges, last time I tried n950 with Nemo, mac didn't change anymore | 08:38 |
| sledges | vakkov: did you get my note about mb tool yesterday? | 08:38 |
| faenil | I wanted to show the guys, but it didn't :D | 08:38 |
| sledges | faenil: goos news, i'll try too on n9 | 08:39 |
| sledges | goos? :D | 08:39 |
| faenil | gooes :D | 08:40 |
| sledges | geez, my typing needs coffee | 08:40 |
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| vakkov | sledges: i set up armv7hl target but now i get some dependency errors - it needs ti-omap3-sgx-devel which is not in the repositories so i downloaded ti-omap-sgx from github and compiled it but for arm .. i guess i need it for i486 so tat i can compile ti-oamp3-sgx-wayland? | 09:09 |
| MFaro-Tusino | smokex: 5 mins, just extracting vgrade image on top of 1.0.0.5 | 09:10 |
| smokex | kk | 09:10 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I'll help with key mapping if you tell me what to do :) | 09:11 |
| smokex | what linux os are you on | 09:11 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | ubuntu vm inside OS X | 09:12 |
| sledges | vakkov: driver is solely for arm, it's TI for OMAP | 09:12 |
| special | vakkov: if you need a devel package for building, do: sb2 -t your_target -R -m sdk-install zypper in --force /path/to/your/ti-omap3-sgx-devel.rpm | 09:13 |
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| smokex | ckbcomp is available on debian/ubuntu | 09:14 |
| smokex | but not on my arch | 09:14 |
| special | vakkov: but likely you just needed another repository. nemo:devel:hw:ti:omap3:n9xx-common on mer OBS looks likely | 09:14 |
| vakkov | oh i tried that but with rpm -i ... will try later with zypper | 09:15 |
| smokex | its in the console-setup package | 09:15 |
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| smokex | ah found a link I hope | 09:20 |
| smokex | wget http://kaufmann.no/downloads/linux/ckbcomp.gz | 09:20 |
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| vakkov | what should the command be like? zypper addrepo nemo:devel:hw:ti:omap3:n9xx-common ? | 09:22 |
| sledges | zypper ar URL anyname | 09:23 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | any manual way to get zypper if you don't have it? | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | pkcon install zypper? | 13:00 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | exactly what I wanted - thanks stskeeps | 13:01 |
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| vakkov | i don't have an n900 at the moment but i want to test the wayland... i was thinking of qemu.. will it boot | 13:19 |
| vakkov | there was a qemu for n900 "D | 13:20 |
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| vakkov | in the old wiki i thing | 13:22 |
| vakkov | think * | 13:22 |
| vakkov | there was a tutorial about qemu and x-loader but the meego wiki is now gone | 13:25 |
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| vakkov | https://web.archive.org/web/20130614071548/http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Qemu | 13:37 |
| vakkov | long live waybackmachine | 13:37 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | how can i mount memo alt os onto harmattan again? | 13:39 |
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| wazd | heya all | 13:55 |
| * wazd wonders why people don't make round-shaped smart watches if we already have descent round LCD modules | 13:56 | |
| Wizzup | wazd: what is the resolution then? | 13:58 |
| Wizzup | 15px*pi | 13:58 |
| wazd | Wizzup: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/541876433/color_small_round_lcd_display_1.html | 13:59 |
| wazd | Wizzup: for example, pretty descent IMO | 13:59 |
| wazd | Wizzup: and it's something I've found in like 5 seconds | 14:01 |
| wazd | Wizzup: I can only imagine what stuff LG or Samy can come up with with little effort | 14:01 |
| sledges | MFaro-Tusino: mount /dev/mmcblk0p4 /mnt | 14:04 |
| Wizzup | wazd: how would xrandr handle it | 14:06 |
| Wizzup | or well, x | 14:06 |
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| wazd | Wizzup: i'm pretty sure it's just a 320x320 screen without corners | 14:08 |
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| wazd | Wizzup: with no fancy pixel mesh | 14:09 |
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| wazd | Wizzup: so it will be handled just like an ordinary 320x320 screen :) | 14:09 |
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| Wizzup | okay | 14:09 |
| vakkov | come on guys :D is there a way to emulate nemo in qemu for n900 .. it's getting stuck | 14:10 |
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| sledges | vakkov: if the problem is in ti-sgx wayland driver, how do you want to debug it without physical hardware? | 14:11 |
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| vakkov | .. good point :d i wanted to start it for the fun | 14:13 |
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| vakkov | the problem is in a ioctl :( there's an assert that i have to make optional | 14:13 |
| vakkov | for the n900 .. | 14:14 |
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| sledges | vakkov: digging deep, sounds good | 14:15 |
| sledges | where did you lose your n900? :) | 14:15 |
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| vakkov | it died an year and a half ago .. a week ago i used my brother's n900 and decided that i want one again D: | 14:16 |
| sledges | maybe someone in here could borrow you one? | 14:16 |
| sledges | *lend | 14:17 |
| vakkov | no, i will buy one (second hand) | 14:17 |
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| vakkov | i doubt there are new ones | 14:17 |
| vakkov | anymore | 14:17 |
| vakkov | i need a broken n9 too (64 gb if possible) | 14:17 |
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| vakkov | to change the nand and the emmc of the n900 (only n9 has 1gb nand+ram chip, exclusively made for nokia) | 14:18 |
| vakkov | so if sb sells an n9 cheaply .. pm me :D | 14:19 |
| sledges | you want to upgrade your n900 to 64gb? ;) | 14:19 |
| sledges | ram timings would be compatible? | 14:20 |
| sledges | vakkov: have you heard of neo900.org ? | 14:20 |
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| vakkov | sledges: yes, we even talked about the upgrade with one of the guys | 14:29 |
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| vakkov | but neo is going to be with 2 boards | 14:29 |
| vakkov | and the phone is going to be thicker | 14:30 |
| vakkov | and this sucks because it is alredy "fat" enough :D | 14:30 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#477 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/477 | 14:30 |
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| vakkov | all that because of the big modem they are using | 14:30 |
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| vakkov | the only thing i am worried about is the nolo initialization | 14:31 |
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| sledges | vakkov: i thought it will fit into old n900 case, why thicker? | 14:32 |
| vakkov | they are going to use longer bolts | 14:33 |
| vakkov | read the TMO thread | 14:33 |
| sledges | aa | 14:34 |
| sledges | so therewill be a gap | 14:35 |
| sledges | and a manifold of sorts | 14:35 |
| sledges | (tmo thread is miles long :D) | 14:35 |
| vakkov | smth like that .. and i would just love to try upgrading it | 14:37 |
| sledges | +1 | 14:38 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#477 Rejected promotion request | 14:38 |
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| xavinux | Hi people Sailfish SO on N9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ii7k-OYM8#t=654 | 15:41 |
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| sledges | looks very performant! | 16:06 |
| sledges | that's about the optimisaion of the homescreen probably ;) | 16:06 |
| sledges | wonder what about tearing | 16:06 |
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| Venemo | xavinux: how much of the hardware works? | 16:08 |
| nciked | any links to instructions? | 16:09 |
| fk_lx | do I see correctly that in newest version event feeds are when you swiping left to right from the edge? | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | i hate to have to ask, but you mean glacier right? | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | (too many sailfish-n950/n9 people..) | 16:13 |
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| fk_lx | Stskeeps: hard to expect that here only Glacier will be discussed :-) | 16:16 |
| fk_lx | Stskeeps: besides Sailfish runs on Nemo, so it's also natural place to discuss Sailfish related stuff | 16:16 |
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| Venemo | for sailfish, go to #sailfishos | 16:18 |
| xavinux | Venemo: don`t really know it yet | 16:18 |
| fk_lx | Venemo: for Glacier go to #glacier? :-P | 16:18 |
| sledges | i pondered about this issue too, it is beneficial and confusing at the same time: sailfish on n9 will productise nemo as well (think statefs plugins) | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | i've considered a bit if we should just merge nemo middleware and mer at some point | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | to avoid confusion | 16:19 |
| sledges | sadly, nobody speaks about sailfish-on-n9 on #sailfishos, because they discuss sailfish sdk issues and app development | 16:19 |
| xavinux | sledges: you are wright... | 16:19 |
| sledges | and from tweets everyone comes here, because one tweet said "to get sailfish on n9, you'll have to do it via nemomobile" | 16:19 |
| xavinux | only sailfish SDK`S is discus | 16:20 |
| fk_lx | sailfish os is discussed on #jollamobile ;-) | 16:21 |
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| fk_lx | and #sailfish is the most quited channel, like some one said for prisoneers :-) | 16:22 |
| fk_lx | *quiet | 16:23 |
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| sledges | #sailfish is nowhere advertised | 16:33 |
| sledges | #jollamobile is discussing shipping now :D | 16:33 |
| sledges | #mer is quiet, but might induce more confusion imho | 16:33 |
| fk_lx | sledes: it's hard to define what #sailfish exactly is | 16:33 |
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| tbr | sledges: yes, I was putting out word on twitter in the hope of more nemo contributors | 16:38 |
| tbr | sledges: IMO sailfish will need to split out discussion into application side and platform porting. The latter is rather dangling and orphaned and heavily related to nemo due to middleware. | 16:39 |
| tbr | Stskeeps might want to weigh in too | 16:39 |
| merlin1991 | hm in the nemo message ui, wth do the numbers next a "thread" mean? after I import a lot of mesages via libcommhisotry every singe line has 1/1 there | 16:40 |
| tbr | or we just accept defeat and declare "porting" to be happening on XDA. *chuckle* | 16:40 |
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| fk_lx | tbr: XDA ? aaaaaaaaa......! | 16:42 |
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| Stskeeps | brb | 16:44 |
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| sledges | PSA: #nemomobile-porters gather there ;) (Nemo/Sailfish OS on N9xx et al.) This channel is for support, Glacier UI, and middle-ware discussions | 18:20 |
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| sledges | tbr: could you plug logging to the new chan pls? ^ | 18:26 |
| tbr | ok | 18:27 |
| sledges | thanks | 18:27 |
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| qwazix | sledges, we had also started #nemomobile-design back in the day, so if UI discussions interfere too much with middleware we could also split that. It's better to have a busy channel though for now. | 19:13 |
| fk_lx | what about #nemomobile-secretorder | 19:16 |
| fk_lx | :-P | 19:16 |
| tbr | nah, that's #illuminati and #freemasons | 19:22 |
| fk_lx | tbr: ok | 19:24 |
| fk_lx | then maybe #nemomobile-w | 19:24 |
| fk_lx | ;-) | 19:24 |
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| sledges | w:D | 21:24 |
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| sledges | qwazix: agreed, as we rarely discuss middleware anyway | 23:31 |
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| sledges | when I think of Nemo Mobile, I see an full OS interfacing its users via UX, so this channel should stay that way | 23:39 |
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| sledges | just like other massive projects have #*-root and #*-dev, we go similarly as of today | 23:41 |
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