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mjones | sledges: ping | 03:22 |
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twobob | so I note the pandaboard image appears to be missing from https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Images | 03:37 |
twobob | am I being stupid? | 03:37 |
twobob | PandaBoard | 03:47 |
twobob | The installation for PandaBoard is very simple. | 03:47 |
twobob | Download the nemo image (see: #Images), it is named nemo-handset-armv7l-pandaboard and the disk image has extension .raw. | 03:47 |
twobob | After downloading the image follow the Raw image write guide how to put the image to the sd card. After the image is written put the sdcard to PandaBoard and turn on the power. | 03:47 |
twobob | should I build one instead via a .ks file? | 03:48 |
twobob | https://gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/image-configurations/source/d04654b2faceb75daa6425f7bf9f3813b6ccfc5e:kickstarts/Nemo/handset-armv7l-pandaboard.ks | 03:48 |
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sledges | mjones: pong | 08:10 |
mjones | sledges: I investigated the touch release issue on n9 | 08:11 |
sledges | yay thanks :) how did it go? | 08:11 |
mjones | sledges: it turns out the touch driver is delivering 2 events for every actual event. | 08:12 |
mjones | sledges: i.e. we get TouchBegin, TouchBegin, TouchEnd, TouchEnd for a tap | 08:12 |
mjones | sledges: which is not allowed. | 08:12 |
sledges | touch driver of n9? | 08:12 |
mjones | sledges: presumably. I didn't dig down far enough to find out exactly who is at fault. | 08:13 |
mjones | sledges: it is at a lower level than QWindowSystemInterface::handleTouchEvent() | 08:14 |
sledges | it might be flaky because sometimes it all works | 08:14 |
sledges | can be that two instances of driver get loaded.. | 08:15 |
sledges | is it evdev so i could track it sooner | 08:15 |
mjones | we use evdevtouch in Jolla without problems, so I'd look lower than that. | 08:16 |
sledges | yup understood | 08:16 |
sledges | could you tell why everything worked before those two commits? | 08:16 |
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sledges | and is the driver delivering doubled events 100% of boots? (you might not have time to confirm this, I will try) | 08:17 |
mjones | both QtQuick and QtGui were synthesising mouse events, so there was a doubling of mouse events, including mouse release | 08:17 |
sledges | i'll use evtest to debug, unless you could pinpoint me at a debug line in upper layers too, would be great | 08:17 |
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mjones | I don't know about differences across reboots. I've only rebooted once since I installed nemo | 08:18 |
sledges | hummm | 08:19 |
faenil | morning o/ | 08:19 |
mjones | gmorning | 08:19 |
sledges | faenil: morn! | 08:19 |
sledges | mjones: hang on a minute, so is driver generating doubles, or one from qtquick+one from qtgui? | 08:21 |
mjones | sledges: there's no high level debug available without recompiling | 08:21 |
sledges | mjones: recompiling not an issue ;) just a line number would be great | 08:21 |
mjones | sledges: the driver. You can see the touch events arriving in QWindowSystemInterface::handleTouchEvent() which is quite low down | 08:22 |
sledges | in which package? | 08:22 |
niqt | morning | 08:22 |
mjones | sledges: in qquickwindow.cpp you can uncomment #define TOUCH_DEBUG for some debugging at a high level | 08:22 |
mjones | sledges: qtbase | 08:22 |
sledges | ok, brilliant, will take it from there | 08:23 |
mjones | sledges: qtbase/src/gui/kernel/qwindowsysteminterface.cpp for QWindowSystemInterface::handleTouchEvent() | 08:23 |
mjones | sledges: qtdeclarative for the qquickwindow.cpp debug | 08:23 |
sledges | fantastic! | 08:24 |
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mjones | good luck | 08:26 |
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sledges | cheers, i wonder how it worked before though :}} | 08:26 |
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mjones | I wonder how anything worked before. You're lucky - it had a positive affect for you ;-) | 08:27 |
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sledges | :)) | 08:32 |
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sledges | im hell busy coming days | 08:44 |
sledges | could anyone pick this issue up? might need lowlevel driving digging | 08:45 |
sledges | *driver | 08:45 |
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zbenjamin | w00t: are you here? | 12:15 |
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KhertanAtwork | Unfortunatelly we can't accept Python applications in our app store at the moment. Some enablers are missing for proper integration to the platfrom. But we are working on it, to make that happen. You can support us with that effort, please ask in Nemo project how to help with Python. | 13:13 |
KhertanAtwork | Ouch ... | 13:13 |
KhertanAtwork | What is the reason of such message ? | 13:14 |
KhertanAtwork | what he is talking about : "enablers" ? | 13:14 |
w00t | thp: ^ | 13:15 |
w00t | zbenjamin: yes | 13:15 |
KhertanAtwork | w00t, arf ... so the reason is pyOtherSide not available in Nemo Mobile :) | 13:15 |
w00t | KhertanAtwork: i don't know the reasoning, thp is more familiar with python than I am | 13:16 |
KhertanAtwork | thp, not busy ? | 13:16 |
KhertanAtwork | w00t, no problems ... thx | 13:16 |
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zbenjamin | w00t: currently looking at disabling updates on the homescreen when its not shown to save some cycles. is there already code in lipstick that should do that? | 13:27 |
zbenjamin | i saw a property , called homeActive or homeScreenActive or something like that, but couldn't yet figure out where its used | 13:27 |
w00t | zbenjamin: define updates | 13:28 |
zbenjamin | like painting | 13:28 |
w00t | already done, see homeapplication.cpp, the hide of the main window stops repaints | 13:28 |
zbenjamin | huh ok, because faenil said its still on the todo list | 13:29 |
zbenjamin | w00t: in there? "void HomeApplication::setUpdatesEnabled(bool enabled)" | 13:30 |
zbenjamin | but its not called | 13:31 |
w00t | it's supposed to be invoked over dbus by mce | 13:32 |
zbenjamin | ew ok, :) | 13:32 |
zbenjamin | faenil: ^ ? | 13:32 |
faenil | ? | 13:32 |
zbenjamin | about not repainting homescreen when a application is shown | 13:33 |
zbenjamin | seems it should work already | 13:33 |
faenil | zbenjamin, as I said, I haven't played with that code, if w00t says he's there already, well :) | 13:33 |
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zbenjamin | seems no speed boost for n9 here :( | 13:36 |
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zbenjamin | w00t: thx for clarifying that | 13:37 |
w00t | oh, erm | 13:37 |
w00t | I think I have a misunderstanding of what you mean | 13:38 |
w00t | setUpdatesEnabled turns off rendering of the entire compositor/screen when the display is off | 13:38 |
w00t | I think that is not what you meant | 13:38 |
faenil | w00t, no :) | 13:38 |
zbenjamin | no i meant when another application is shown, like the adress book, there is no need to repaint homescreen | 13:38 |
w00t | right | 13:39 |
faenil | w00t, in fact I was thinking why would mce have to take care of that :D | 13:39 |
w00t | you'd have to look at compositor.qml | 13:39 |
w00t | set the right layer(s) visible attribute depending on whether there is a top window or a swipe in progress | 13:39 |
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zbenjamin | compositor.qml? in lipstick-colorful-home? | 13:41 |
w00t | yes | 13:41 |
zbenjamin | MainScreen.qml maybe? | 13:41 |
w00t | not last time I looked at it | 13:41 |
faenil | zbenjamin, no, compositor.qml | 13:41 |
faenil | the compositor | 13:41 |
zbenjamin | argh wrong branch ;) | 13:41 |
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zbenjamin | there it is | 13:42 |
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zbenjamin | ah: homeActive: topmostWindow == root.homeWindow | 13:48 |
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w00t | right | 13:48 |
w00t | so you want to use homeActive and the swipe progress | 13:48 |
zbenjamin | ok homeActive tells me if homescreen should be the topmost window | 13:49 |
zbenjamin | but on a swipe we need to show it too of course | 13:49 |
zbenjamin | w00t: swipeAnimation.running should work too | 13:54 |
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zbenjamin | something like repaintHomeScreen: swipeAnimation.running || homeActive | 13:54 |
w00t | visible: <that> on the layers you want to repaint | 13:56 |
w00t | visible: true means "please do repaint this", false means not | 13:56 |
zbenjamin | ok | 13:58 |
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zbenjamin | faenil: i think i got it, but not so much performance boost in fingerterm :/ | 14:42 |
faenil | eh :/ | 14:42 |
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zbenjamin | basically i added this to the homeLayer: root.homeActive || visible: (gestureArea.progress > 0 && gestureArea.progress < 1.0) | 14:43 |
zbenjamin | err | 14:43 |
zbenjamin | that got mixed up | 14:43 |
zbenjamin | visible: root.homeActive || (gestureArea.progress > 0 && gestureArea.progress < 1.0) | 14:43 |
zbenjamin | faenil: i think its line 91 for me | 14:45 |
zbenjamin | if you want to try | 14:45 |
faenil | zbenjamin, I'm quite busy :/ | 14:45 |
zbenjamin | only other thing we could do is hide() the compositor window completely but not sure how this would turn out | 14:46 |
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zbenjamin | i bet that would break everything ;) | 14:48 |
zbenjamin | since the compositor window is handling the swipe gestures :( | 14:48 |
w00t | it's also drawing the application.. ;) | 14:50 |
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zbenjamin | w00t: ouch ;) | 14:53 |
zbenjamin | right its mapping it to the screen | 14:54 |
w00t | if you get things right with layering, you shouldn't have much overhead beyond the application draw | 14:54 |
zbenjamin | did i just make the swiping bug more annoying? | 14:54 |
w00t | look into apitrace to see exactly what is being drawn to screen | 14:54 |
w00t | (http://apitrace.github.io/) | 14:54 |
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zbenjamin | ok i'll look into it thx | 14:55 |
sledges | anyway to enable fps showing in our nemo env? | 14:55 |
sledges | zbenjamin: I think tmpfixing the homescreen-freeze bug, has brought back the swiping bug | 14:55 |
zbenjamin | just realized that the onGestureFinished slot is never called when the swipe bug occurs | 14:55 |
zbenjamin | that looks like there is a mouserelease event missing or something like that | 14:56 |
sledges | so hoping that this morning's convo will pave way to fix the touch driver, which is sending duplicate touch events - causing all this havoc (as in jolla phone works fine they say) | 14:56 |
zbenjamin | yeah its definatley a missing mouse event. onReleased emits gestureFinished | 14:57 |
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sledges | zbenjamin: check backlog. what we are getting from the driver apparently is TouchDown TouchDown - TouchRelease TouchRelease (instead of TouchDown - TouchRelease) | 14:59 |
zbenjamin | w00t: so apitrace would show me if there are multiple layers painted on each other instead of just the one we want | 14:59 |
w00t | sledges: just read the scrollback - you can look into evdev_trace from mce-tools to see what the kernel thinks is going on | 14:59 |
w00t | sledges: from there, you go to evdevtouch plugin in qtbase, which feeds touch events (QTouchEvent) into QPA | 14:59 |
sledges | w00t: yeap, i was thinking of evtest, but thanks! | 14:59 |
w00t | evdev_trace -t /dev/input/<device> | 15:00 |
sledges | nice, cheers | 15:00 |
zbenjamin | showing fps would be nice | 15:00 |
w00t | zbenjamin: it'll let you walk through everything that happens during a frame, so yes, you'll see anything that is being painted that doesn't make sense | 15:01 |
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faenil | w00t, I still have to play with apitrace, but how does it work? do you see frames on a GUI on your computer? | 15:01 |
faenil | so far I've only used apitrace dump | 15:01 |
faenil | i.e. looked directly at calls | 15:01 |
w00t | faenil: it saves trace files, which you can look at elsewhere | 15:01 |
faenil | but haven't played with the higher levels | 15:01 |
faenil | w00t, oh I see, must be a lot of fun | 15:02 |
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zbenjamin | w00t: i guess i cannot attach to a running process right? | 15:16 |
zbenjamin | i have to start lipstick by hand | 15:16 |
w00t | or use gdbserver | 15:17 |
zbenjamin | gdbserver with apitrace? | 15:18 |
w00t | oh, apitrace, right | 15:18 |
w00t | too many conversations at once | 15:18 |
w00t | probably easiest to yes | 15:18 |
zbenjamin | w00t: ok now i just need to figure out how to start lipstick by hand ;) | 15:19 |
rah | how can I build a Nemo image for Allwinner chips? | 15:21 |
sledges | rah: start with kernel and uboot | 15:22 |
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sledges | figure out boot mode and medium | 15:22 |
sledges | to come up with the proper hardware adaptation repo | 15:22 |
sledges | afterwards ensure mer rootfs is running fine on that | 15:22 |
sledges | sort out GPU drivers, get into graphics mode, Wayland recommended; then run a Qt app (Qt5 recommended) | 15:23 |
sledges | when all is in place, come up with a kickstart file (.ks) pointing to all needed repos and what packages to install from them, and then you can build an image ;) | 15:24 |
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rah | sledges: hasn't this all been done? | 15:27 |
sledges | find exact chip you are working on, board name | 15:27 |
rah | sledges: ftp://5.9.162.110/nemo/ | 15:28 |
sledges | and you might find first 5 lines out of my 6 chat lines above already been done | 15:28 |
rah | sledges: there's a bunch of images here | 15:28 |
sledges | rah: 15:27 < sledges> find exact chip you are working on, board name | 15:28 |
rah | let me rephrase my question: | 15:28 |
sledges | depends on the silicon you have there | 15:28 |
rah | how do I rebuild the Allwinner images that have already been built by others? | 15:28 |
sledges | rah: all READMEs are there: ftp://5.9.162.110/nemo/eoma68/tablet/eoma68/mer/testing/armv7hl/weekly/README_IMAGE_REBUILD.txt | 15:30 |
sledges | hope they are there also for your particular board flavour | 15:30 |
sledges | and hurray, .ks file is also provided \o/ vgrade you rock! | 15:31 |
rah | vgrade is silent | 15:32 |
rah | I don't think he's interested any more | 15:32 |
sledges | right, way to go attitude rah ;) | 15:32 |
sledges | everything is on a silver plate, i wish it was that simple when i was doing imx board ;) | 15:33 |
rah | so I have to install an "SDK"? | 15:34 |
sledges | yes | 15:36 |
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Azelphur | faenil: I've played with QML a little on Ubuntu mobile, but my experience with it is weak :) | 16:35 |
Azelphur | Is anything working on the Nexus 4 yet? | 16:37 |
Morpog_PC | someone was working on a HW adaption for it | 16:38 |
Azelphur | cool | 16:38 |
Morpog_PC | things will be easier once Jolla releases instructions for libhybris with Cyanogenmod | 16:38 |
Morpog_PC | so basically every device that supports Cyanogenmod will work with nemomobile or sailfishos | 16:39 |
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Azelphur | wow, nice | 16:39 |
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sledges | https://twitter.com/NemoMobile/status/405382433165414400 | 17:09 |
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zbenjamin | sledges: maybe we should put some work into a creator plugin, so we can do compile, deploy, debug from within creator | 17:13 |
sledges | maybe hemera already did half of job :) | 17:14 |
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sledges | todo list in nemo is endless, need to set priorities depending from which backgrounds the interest grows the most | 17:20 |
locusf | is there an official list? | 17:21 |
Morpog_PC | just dissect sledges brain | 17:22 |
sledges | there is that on glacier ui :) | 17:22 |
locusf | oh yeah | 17:22 |
sledges | but an endless list does not exist officially | 17:22 |
sledges | :)) | 17:22 |
locusf | where is that sharpening glass POC? | 17:25 |
locusf | I mean in code | 17:25 |
Morpog_PC | there is no code | 17:25 |
sledges | there is ;P | 17:25 |
sledges | you have it Morpog_PC | 17:25 |
Morpog_PC | really? | 17:25 |
sledges | as in, you have mods to colorful-home to add background | 17:26 |
sledges | so is a PoC of the PoC | 17:26 |
sledges | :) | 17:26 |
locusf | lol :) | 17:26 |
Morpog_PC | lol | 17:26 |
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twobob | I have question please, it appears that most arm little endian platforms have gone across to hardfloat, Thus I currently havent managed to find a single filesystem image that implements softfloat. | 17:28 |
sledges | but truly, zbenjamin, the best priority is your passion ;) to just pickup what you like most | 17:28 |
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locusf | as always with open source projects :) | 17:29 |
twobob | so my question is what docs do I need to follow to build up an entire working filesystem from scratch. | 17:29 |
Morpog_PC | yeah, my last passion was to get rid of those ugly old icons :) | 17:29 |
sledges | twobob: build one, in a strict nutshell it's as easy as `sudo mic fs mer-armv7l.ks` | 17:29 |
locusf | my label is still in review | 17:30 |
sledges | twobob: on which hardware though? or you need just a bare rootfs | 17:30 |
zbenjamin | sledges: yeah ;) just saying it maybe would increase productivity | 17:30 |
locusf | gotta start scrathing something else | 17:30 |
twobob | Kindle Touch | 17:30 |
Morpog_PC | locusf, I know you love that trumpet ;) | 17:30 |
locusf | Morpog_PC: don't start with that :D | 17:30 |
zbenjamin | the trumpet _again_ ? really? | 17:30 |
zbenjamin | lol | 17:30 |
sledges | locusf: true, your PR ended in an unended dispute with faenil about where the styling should take place; thanks for reminding | 17:30 |
locusf | zbenjamin: its still under implementation | 17:31 |
locusf | if I'd just get the redraws to work that would be great | 17:31 |
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locusf | first time I have gotten a segfault from a QML code btw | 17:31 |
locusf | sledges: oh ok | 17:31 |
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twobob | okay, thanks for the feedback. where do I grab mer-armv7l.ks and also: sudo mic fs mer-armv7l.ks | 17:32 |
twobob | mic 0.14 (Mer 0.2011 Mer) | 17:32 |
twobob | mic: unknown command: 'fs' | 17:32 |
sledges | twobob: mic create fs | 17:32 |
twobob | sorry If I'm being dumb , happy to learn | 17:32 |
sledges | but i will give you more details in a bit | 17:32 |
twobob | k thanks very much, I will try a search for the .ks | 17:33 |
sledges | twobob: i will give you steps how to get that ks | 17:33 |
zbenjamin | where does systemd look for service files? | 17:33 |
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sledges | it was not a precise command ;) only from top of my head | 17:33 |
twobob | my bad sorry | 17:33 |
sledges | dw | 17:34 |
sledges | zbenjamin: root user one - in /lib/systemd/system/ | 17:34 |
sledges | user one - /usr/lib/systemd/user/ | 17:34 |
zbenjamin | ah thx | 17:34 |
sledges | twobob: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step#Make_an_image | 17:36 |
sledges | replace the arch with your neede one | 17:36 |
zbenjamin | now i know how to start lipstick by hand ;) | 17:36 |
zbenjamin | i hope | 17:37 |
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twobob | working on that. thanks | 17:40 |
sledges | twobob: have fun | 17:40 |
twobob | It turns out I had already done that. must have missed a step | 17:40 |
sledges | oki :) | 17:41 |
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twobob | yup I had indeed missed the reference creation step. doh. thanks sledges | 17:51 |
sledges | twobob: no pros; if something still fall over, for nemo (can be downdapted to mer too) we have more elaborate image creation (offering full kickstarter command lines with proper arguments like pkg=zypp etc): https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Creating_Releases#Images | 17:53 |
twobob | okay. you know. it was list. but I think I have already done that too... | 17:54 |
sledges | *no probs | 17:54 |
twobob | :D was bumbling around last night when you lot were all asleep | 17:54 |
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twobob | Thanks so much for your help | 17:54 |
sledges | eh, hope it helped, which timezone are you ooi? :)) | 17:55 |
sledges | (or sleep pattern :) | 17:55 |
twobob | +0 but I was up through the night getting my head around the docs / mer / nemo / sailfish | 17:55 |
twobob | have discounted sailfish now - this is the right layer for me I feel | 17:55 |
sledges | well done, your head must be exploding (and our wiki too, needs lots of vacuuming ;)) | 17:56 |
sledges | strictly speaking, you discounted the sailfish ui bit ;) | 17:56 |
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twobob | yeah. I got the mer sdk built etc... and am not really that bothered about making the kindles look exactly like someone elses phone system... | 17:57 |
sledges | +0 here as well, Bristol :) anywhere near? | 17:57 |
twobob | Moors | 17:57 |
twobob | 2 hours | 17:57 |
twobob | ish | 17:57 |
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sledges | true, same ole south west :) | 17:57 |
twobob | American Werewolf in London territory | 17:57 |
sledges | hmh, too many Moors in uk then :D | 17:58 |
twobob | yup :D | 17:58 |
twobob | I drive really fast | 17:58 |
sledges | very impressive kindle video demo! | 17:58 |
sledges | well join the club of fast and furious, im always late for work :)) | 17:58 |
sledges | (that being the excuse) | 17:59 |
sledges | could never thought one can watch a vid on an eink | 17:59 |
twobob | ah thanks :) yeah would like to get wayland working more properly to do the work on the kindles. This is a preamble to actually trying nemo via libhybris on a generic androind tablet once I had my teeth cut | 17:59 |
twobob | but this first. that later | 18:00 |
sledges | instructions to be revealed, in good time for you apparently | 18:00 |
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twobob | brilliant | 18:00 |
twobob | I am waiting on the Blog with bated breath | 18:00 |
sledges | :) | 18:01 |
* twobob wipes sleep from mind, looks at these shiny new reference files , get a very large cup of tea | 18:03 | |
sledges | mmmm cake :) | 18:04 |
twobob | ooh and cake, good call. | 18:04 |
sledges | that's what +0 is all about apparently (is built upon :)) | 18:04 |
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twobob | :D heck yeah. without Tea, my world may end. | 18:05 |
sledges | :)) i moved to uk partially because i'd drink tea with milk | 18:05 |
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twobob | sacrilege in the +5-7 TZ | 18:06 |
twobob | lemon, or honey with that? | 18:06 |
twobob | MILK! | 18:06 |
twobob | s/+/-/ | 18:06 |
sledges | looks like your chat lines arrive in LIFO principle :) | 18:07 |
twobob | hehehe sorry brain is bit non-functioning right now. it'll warm up | 18:09 |
sledges | i think it's extrapolating ;P | 18:09 |
twobob | certainly excruciating | 18:09 |
zbenjamin | sledges: i can't get lipstick to start from the commandline, seems its not taking the qpa platform from env | 18:11 |
zbenjamin | anything special i have to do? | 18:11 |
sledges | check /var/lib/environment | 18:11 |
sledges | but what do you launch differently when by hand? | 18:12 |
sledges | you could pinch that into .service file instead | 18:12 |
zbenjamin | sledges: using apitrace ;) | 18:12 |
sledges | i mean | 18:12 |
sledges | how do you alter cmdline? | 18:12 |
faenil | zbenjamin, what error do you get and how are you trying to run it | 18:13 |
faenil | details pls :P | 18:13 |
zbenjamin | faenil: i sourced the environment file | 18:14 |
zbenjamin | /var/lib/environment/compositor/*.conf | 18:14 |
zbenjamin | and now i try to start it with /usr/bin/lipstick $LIPSTICK_OPTIONS | 18:14 |
faenil | and you get dbus error I guess | 18:14 |
zbenjamin | but it complains about loading "Failed to load platform plugin "xcb". Available platforms are: " | 18:14 |
faenil | try adding -platform eglfs | 18:15 |
faenil | just to try | 18:15 |
faenil | if there's a problem in sourcing | 18:15 |
zbenjamin | works :/ but the env var is set | 18:15 |
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zbenjamin | and i get a mouse | 18:15 |
zbenjamin | and no icons | 18:15 |
faenil | zbenjamin, so QT_QPA_PLATFORM is set? | 18:16 |
faenil | as in QT_QPA_PLATFORM outputs eglfs? | 18:16 |
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zbenjamin | lol and terminal is inverted | 18:16 |
faenil | echo $$QT_QPA_PLATFORM | 18:16 |
zbenjamin | [nemo@localhost ~]$ echo $QT_QPA_PLATFORM | 18:17 |
zbenjamin | eglfs | 18:17 |
faenil | zbenjamin, okay, I gues they don't apply via ssh | 18:17 |
zbenjamin | ah meh :/ | 18:17 |
faenil | there is also a var for mirroring thing | 18:17 |
faenil | w00t, wasn't the y-inverted fixed at qtwayland level? ^ | 18:17 |
sledges | zbenjamin: modifying .service file itself is not an option? | 18:18 |
faenil | zbenjamin, yeah why don't you just start the service? | 18:18 |
zbenjamin | yeah ok ok , stop bullying me for doing things different ;) | 18:18 |
faenil | ahah :) | 18:19 |
sledges | :D you asked for help ;) | 18:19 |
faenil | zbenjamin, nah it's just that over ssh there is that issue with env vars not being set | 18:19 |
sledges | and we had a chat about systemd yesterday, sorry, i know how you feel :)) | 18:19 |
zbenjamin | faenil: i wonder if it would work in a screen session | 18:20 |
faenil | zbenjamin, don't know | 18:20 |
faenil | anyway | 18:20 |
faenil | we really need to get that stuff fixed in nemo :) | 18:20 |
faenil | proper env vars in ssh :D | 18:20 |
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zbenjamin | faenil: ok in screen it picks up env | 18:23 |
faenil | ok | 18:23 |
sledges | faenil: shall styling bits be moved out of Label.qml into LabelStyle.qml ? (just like it is elegantly done in Button*.qml) https://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo/pull/13#discussion_r7756077 | 18:23 |
zbenjamin | faenil: well it also works in ssh if i add export to every line | 18:23 |
faenil | sledges, not sure ... | 18:24 |
sledges | :7 | 18:25 |
faenil | sledges, been discussing with w00t that this indirection with styles adds overhead... | 18:26 |
faenil | so maybe we can avoid that for custom nemo components? | 18:26 |
sledges | so button needs to get its style back into one file, if we go down this path? ;) | 18:27 |
faenil | we have to respect it for upstream components otherwise changing the env var for controls style wouldn't bring an effect | 18:27 |
faenil | nope | 18:27 |
faenil | button is not custom, it's qqc control | 18:27 |
sledges | ok | 18:27 |
sledges | now i start to understand | 18:27 |
sledges | but | 18:27 |
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sledges | no I'm more wondering about why this works...if LabelStyle doesn't exist in QtQuick.Controls.Styles 1.0 :D | 18:28 |
sledges | (your quote ^) | 18:28 |
faenil | yep | 18:28 |
locusf | I removed it btw | 18:28 |
faenil | locusf, but, did it work? | 18:28 |
faenil | I mean, there's no LabelStyle... | 18:28 |
locusf | I have no clue as the file was empty | 18:28 |
sledges | so qqc don't have "Label" control ? | 18:28 |
faenil | sledges, they have but not exposed iirc, and doesn't have a stlye | 18:29 |
faenil | probably no style -> keep internal | 18:29 |
sledges | ah, ok | 18:29 |
faenil | (at least in our qqc version that is) | 18:29 |
sledges | right | 18:29 |
sledges | so is neither custom/private/nor public :)) | 18:29 |
sledges | inbetweenness | 18:29 |
faenil | :) | 18:29 |
vgrade | rah: \o | 18:29 |
sledges | meaning, we can accept this PR now ;) | 18:30 |
* faenil watches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4K3tsKa1Uc&feature=youtu.be | 18:30 | |
* sledges bookmarked | 18:31 | |
vgrade | rah: what device do you have? Is it supported by https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-boards and https://github.com/linux-sunxi/u-boot-sunxi/blob/sunxi/boards.cfg | 18:31 |
vgrade | rah: if so you should be able to build an image | 18:31 |
faenil | locusf, why that alignvcenter? | 18:32 |
faenil | I think text should stay topleft by default, the dev changes that if needed | 18:32 |
locusf | faenil: copy-paste | 18:32 |
faenil | from where xD | 18:33 |
locusf | your button label | 18:33 |
sledges | button label | 18:33 |
sledges | *g* | 18:33 |
faenil | ah ok :D | 18:33 |
faenil | oh btw | 18:33 |
faenil | the button label is bugged, as you can see in live coding arena | 18:33 |
sledges | i like vcenter - as it's the most used in mobiles, so less qml lines to write ;) | 18:33 |
faenil | it text is wider than the button there's no corrective action applied | 18:33 |
faenil | sledges, yes I agree, though it's not how it usually works, imho | 18:34 |
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sledges | :) ? | 18:35 |
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faenil | I mean, what people are used to | 18:35 |
zbenjamin | how do i force systemd to use my new service file? seriously ! this sucks ;) | 18:35 |
faenil | if they create a text element which is 2000px high, you're not supposed to center the text :P | 18:35 |
zbenjamin | systemctl --user daemon-reload didn't do the trick | 18:35 |
faenil | zbenjamin, doesn't it just works once you modify the service? :/ | 18:36 |
zbenjamin | nope | 18:36 |
w00t | assuming it's a user session service, that's what you want.. and then force that service to restart (e.g. systemctl --user restart foo.service) | 18:36 |
zbenjamin | it just ignores it | 18:36 |
faenil | w00t, it seems it's not enough | 18:36 |
zbenjamin | wut Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11 | 18:37 |
sledges | faenil: how many times do you create 2000px height texts and 20px texts? they will see that bug and put property in | 18:37 |
faenil | zbenjamin, | 18:37 |
faenil | are you on nemo? | 18:37 |
zbenjamin | yes | 18:37 |
faenil | as in, nemo user | 18:37 |
faenil | if you are, then you're missing the dbus address env var probably | 18:37 |
zbenjamin | root | 18:37 |
faenil | ok | 18:37 |
faenil | dbus is avaiable to nemo user | 18:37 |
zbenjamin | meh | 18:38 |
locusf | DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/100000/dbus/user_bus_socket | 18:38 |
faenil | locusf, I think it was only user problem in his case :) | 18:38 |
locusf | well just in case, that solves it for root too | 18:38 |
faenil | locusf, but, that's user bus ;P | 18:39 |
faenil | 100000 is nemo id :D | 18:39 |
locusf | and? | 18:40 |
sledges | you can use systemctl-user | 18:40 |
faenil | play wit your own dbus :D | 18:40 |
sledges | iirc it was made (by jolla chaps?) to simplify things | 18:40 |
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locusf | damn c++11 looks good | 18:45 |
locusf | I remember doing my c++ studies in 2002, it still reminds me that c++ can sometimes be ugly and incomprehensible | 18:46 |
zbenjamin | c++11 is nice | 18:52 |
zbenjamin | lots of good stuff added | 18:52 |
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zbenjamin | hmpf qapitrace is crashing :/ | 19:02 |
faenil | am I the only one who started programming only 5 years ago? :D | 19:05 |
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zbenjamin | i guess ;) | 19:08 |
* zbenjamin started around 2001 | 19:08 | |
mike7b4_on_x230 | Now I fail again create nemo image with Error <repo>: Could not run transaction anyone hint me what that actually means? I have seen it before but cant remember how to solve it? | 19:08 |
locusf | I started in 1997 in junior high with Pascal | 19:08 |
locusf | (not much has improved since then lol) | 19:08 |
twobob | I started programming in c 18 months ago. FWIW | 19:10 |
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faenil | twobob, c rocks :D | 19:10 |
faenil | I started with c as well | 19:10 |
twobob | wrote one game for the x box before that in c# | 19:11 |
twobob | but that doesnt really count | 19:11 |
twobob | it was more graphics really | 19:11 |
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locusf | damn thats some pro way to do programming tutorials, do you know that guy faenil? | 19:19 |
faenil | locusf, you mean the c+11 game? | 19:19 |
locusf | faenil: yeah | 19:19 |
faenil | no, I don't remember where I found it :) | 19:19 |
faenil | but he's italian | 19:19 |
faenil | clear italian english accent :D | 19:20 |
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locusf | its not incomprehensible though | 19:20 |
faenil | yeah, just italian accent :D | 19:22 |
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twobob | any good reason NOT to build for armv6l when I have armv6l and armv7l as possible targets? | 19:49 |
twobob | seems like on size fits all would be best | 19:49 |
Stskeeps | well, only raspberry pi is really armv6l | 19:50 |
Stskeeps | armv7l is more optimized | 19:50 |
piggz | i think i have an armv6 phone | 19:52 |
piggz | weird .. my mac crashes every time i try and compile qquerytransformparser.cpp | 19:53 |
twobob | k. | 19:55 |
twobob | thanks for the feedback. I will go with armv6 and then later do some metrics on amv7 to see if it is worth a dual release | 19:56 |
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twobob | so, I tred the armv6l option but was getting "damaged rpm" errors, switched over to the armv7l and all is happy for the mer fs create function | 21:17 |
twobob | Warning: Package xorg-x11-filesystem-7.3-1.1.4.noarch.rpm is damaged: /var/tmp/mic/cache/packages/mer-core/xorg-x11-filesystem-7.3-1.1.4.noarch.rpm | 21:17 |
twobob | Warning: Package xdg-utils-1.1.0~rc1-1.1.6.noarch.rpm is damaged: /var/tmp/mic/cache/packages/mer-core/xdg-utils-1.1.0~rc1-1.1.6.noarch.rpm | 21:17 |
twobob | for future refernece | 21:17 |
twobob | okay sorry warnings - not errors | 21:18 |
sledges | x11 has been going away for a while twobob, you might consider excluding them | 21:18 |
Stskeeps | twobob: yes shared cache | 21:18 |
twobob | ah okay | 21:18 |
twobob | well Ill focus down on 7l for now and go back and look at that "later" then | 21:19 |
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twobob | next up. ripped the back off of a kindle touch. and will attach the serial cable I have here and see if I can get some boot diagnostics. Will also try to pare down the bazzilion windows I have open and actually FIND the next steps for making the nemo image >..< | 21:32 |
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