| *** zhost has quit IRC | 00:03 | |
| *** sandy_locke has quit IRC | 00:08 | |
| *** arcean has quit IRC | 00:14 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 00:19 | |
| *** dmol has quit IRC | 00:30 | |
| *** amizraa has joined #nemomobile | 00:33 | |
| *** Venemo has quit IRC | 00:34 | |
| *** Venemo has joined #nemomobile | 00:38 | |
| *** Venemo has quit IRC | 00:45 | |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC | 01:03 | |
| *** DrCode has quit IRC | 01:21 | |
| *** DrCode has joined #nemomobile | 01:24 | |
| *** M4rtinK has quit IRC | 01:29 | |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has joined #nemomobile | 01:36 | |
| *** KaiRo_Mozilla has joined #nemomobile | 02:06 | |
| *** KaIRC has quit IRC | 02:10 | |
| *** mschlens_ has joined #nemomobile | 02:22 | |
| *** mschlens has quit IRC | 02:25 | |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC | 02:33 | |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has joined #nemomobile | 02:55 | |
| *** jonwil has joined #nemomobile | 02:57 | |
| *** nodevel has quit IRC | 03:01 | |
| *** nodevel has joined #nemomobile | 03:01 | |
| *** KaiRo_Mozilla has quit IRC | 03:06 | |
| *** Eztran has quit IRC | 03:28 | |
| *** sandy_locke has joined #nemomobile | 04:09 | |
| *** sandy_locke has quit IRC | 04:14 | |
| *** Hurrian has quit IRC | 04:28 | |
| *** MohammadAG has quit IRC | 04:47 | |
| *** furikku has joined #nemomobile | 04:57 | |
| *** Hurrian has joined #nemomobile | 05:04 | |
| *** Hurrian has quit IRC | 05:17 | |
| *** MohammadAG has joined #nemomobile | 05:27 | |
| *** drachensun has quit IRC | 05:40 | |
| *** sandy_locke has joined #nemomobile | 06:10 | |
| *** vakkov has joined #nemomobile | 06:10 | |
| *** sandy_locke has quit IRC | 06:15 | |
| *** sababa has joined #nemomobile | 06:22 | |
| *** blam_ has joined #nemomobile | 07:15 | |
| *** Pat_o has joined #nemomobile | 07:22 | |
| *** Pat_o has quit IRC | 07:27 | |
| *** jonwil has quit IRC | 07:55 | |
| *** vakkov has quit IRC | 08:15 | |
| *** zhxt has joined #nemomobile | 08:18 | |
| *** blam_ has quit IRC | 08:26 | |
| *** juiceme has quit IRC | 08:29 | |
| *** dazo_afk is now known as dazo | 08:33 | |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC | 08:44 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #nemomobile | 08:50 | |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has joined #nemomobile | 08:56 | |
| *** Pat_o has joined #nemomobile | 09:01 | |
| *** Hurrian has joined #nemomobile | 09:12 | |
| *** Pat_o has quit IRC | 09:13 | |
| *** Frye has joined #nemomobile | 09:13 | |
| *** Frye has quit IRC | 09:23 | |
| *** Frye has joined #nemomobile | 09:25 | |
| *** guoyunhebrave has joined #nemomobile | 09:27 | |
| *** NIN101 has joined #nemomobile | 09:34 | |
| *** Pat_o has joined #nemomobile | 09:35 | |
| *** Frye has quit IRC | 09:42 | |
| *** arcean has joined #nemomobile | 09:44 | |
| *** Frye has joined #nemomobile | 09:46 | |
| *** alin has joined #nemomobile | 09:47 | |
| *** alin has joined #nemomobile | 09:47 | |
| *** MFaro-Tusino has joined #nemomobile | 09:56 | |
| faenil | o/ | 09:58 |
|---|---|---|
| dm8tbr | \o | 09:59 |
| MFaro-Tusino | \0/ | 10:00 |
| MFaro-Tusino | \0/ | 10:00 |
| faenil | :D | 10:02 |
| MFaro-Tusino | brb - changing IRC client - Lingo on OS X is crap | 10:03 |
| *** MFaro-Tusino has quit IRC | 10:03 | |
| *** MFaro-Tusino has joined #nemomobile | 10:06 | |
| MFaro-Tusino | I'm back (Y) | 10:06 |
| MFaro-Tusino | So anyone have a solution to persistent single boot flash of N9 to Nemo? | 10:07 |
| *** blam_ has joined #nemomobile | 10:08 | |
| dm8tbr | the wiki instructions don't work? | 10:08 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i don't want a dual-boot moslo | 10:10 |
| dm8tbr | there is a single boot one AFAIU | 10:10 |
| *** zhxt has quit IRC | 10:10 | |
| *** MFaro-Tusino has quit IRC | 10:10 | |
| *** zhxt has joined #nemomobile | 10:10 | |
| dm8tbr | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Persistent_Single_Boot_by_Flashing_the_Dual_Boot | 10:11 |
| *** MFaro-Tusino has joined #nemomobile | 10:12 | |
| MFaro-Tusino | sorry - had to update client | 10:12 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I need to just double check the N950 Moslo works for it | 10:12 |
| faenil | MFaro-Tusino, go ubiboot on n950 :P | 10:13 |
| MFaro-Tusino | But then I have to flash my N950 from Beta 1 to PR 1.3 | 10:13 |
| faenil | meh :P | 10:15 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I think I have the last N950 on Beta 1 though :p | 10:15 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Its a relic hehe | 10:15 |
| *** blam_ has quit IRC | 10:17 | |
| locusf | hey MFaro-Tusino | 10:19 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Hey locusf | 10:20 |
| faenil | locusf, O7 | 10:20 |
| MFaro-Tusino | so you guys reckon I should flash N950 or N9? | 10:21 |
| MFaro-Tusino | It'll be ubiboot method I've decided | 10:21 |
| locusf | faenil: \o | 10:21 |
| locusf | MFaro-Tusino: you have both? | 10:21 |
| MFaro-Tusino | 2 N9s 2 N950s | 10:22 |
| faenil | MFaro-Tusino, yeah ubiboot is the most developed and flexible I'd say | 10:22 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Though I donated an N950 to a friend in need | 10:22 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Faenil: Sweet :) | 10:22 |
| locusf | I should also switch to ubiboot as I'd like my harmattan as my skype phone | 10:23 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Well I'll try N9 - that way I can keep my rock watch app - its bloody amazing with pebble | 10:25 |
| *** M4rtinK has joined #nemomobile | 10:25 | |
| *** arcean has quit IRC | 10:31 | |
| MFaro-Tusino | Sailfish Will look gorgeous on the glossy white - I can see it now hehe | 10:33 |
| *** Frye has quit IRC | 10:33 | |
| *** arcean has joined #nemomobile | 10:35 | |
| *** w00t has quit IRC | 10:44 | |
| *** w00t has joined #nemomobile | 10:46 | |
| MFaro-Tusino | assume ssh user@tel means telnet? | 10:49 |
| locusf | no telnet only ssh | 10:53 |
| MFaro-Tusino | okay | 10:56 |
| MFaro-Tusino | telnet never works for me | 10:56 |
| MFaro-Tusino | (using OS X so that is probably why) | 10:56 |
| *** Frye has joined #nemomobile | 10:57 | |
| dm8tbr | MFaro-Tusino: my n950 also runs something akin to beta1 | 11:01 |
| MFaro-Tusino | do i need all the zImages ? or only the ones for the OSes I will use? | 11:02 |
| MFaro-Tusino | nice dm8tbr | 11:02 |
| *** blue787 has quit IRC | 11:03 | |
| *** alin_ has joined #nemomobile | 11:04 | |
| *** alin has quit IRC | 11:05 | |
| *** Frye has quit IRC | 11:05 | |
| *** sandy_locke has joined #nemomobile | 11:06 | |
| *** blue787 has joined #nemomobile | 11:07 | |
| locusf | i remember one guy trying to flash n9 on osx, didn't work too well | 11:12 |
| *** MFaro-Tusino has quit IRC | 11:13 | |
| *** arcean has quit IRC | 11:15 | |
| *** arcean has joined #nemomobile | 11:15 | |
| Hurrian | locusf: flashing with OSX >>>>>>>> flashing with Windows ;) | 11:18 |
| locusf | true | 11:21 |
| *** MFaro-Tusino has joined #nemomobile | 11:23 | |
| sandy_locke | hi peops | 11:26 |
| sandy_locke | locusf: you have 2mins, I may need help with installing nemo on n9 (again^^) ? | 11:26 |
| MFaro-Tusino | it seems we are all re/installing Nemo today/tonight | 11:27 |
| sandy_locke | ^^ | 11:27 |
| sandy_locke | we should do a group step-by-step then :P | 11:27 |
| *** Hurrian has quit IRC | 11:28 | |
| sandy_locke | as for me I keep getting a re-partitioning failed error, doesn't matter how much I flash the whole device | 11:29 |
| *** Hurrian has joined #nemomobile | 11:29 | |
| MFaro-Tusino | really? I tend to find doing an dmmc flash and erasing everything fixes that | 11:30 |
| sandy_locke | I would like to know how I can enter the device from linux to list the partitions, see if it has been created anyway | 11:30 |
| MFaro-Tusino | usually though to do with moslo paritioning | 11:30 |
| sandy_locke | not for me this time unfortunately :/ | 11:30 |
| sandy_locke | full zeroize both root and mmc 2x doesn't change anything! | 11:31 |
| sandy_locke | MFaro-Tusino: what command line do you use to erase everything ? | 11:32 |
| sandy_locke | and telnet doesn't work :/ arrrrhhh... | 11:34 |
| MFaro-Tusino | umm flasher -F image.bin -F emmc.bin -f -R --erase-user-data i think | 11:34 |
| MFaro-Tusino | been a while since i did it | 11:34 |
| sandy_locke | seems like the same command I used | 11:37 |
| *** M13 has joined #nemomobile | 11:39 | |
| MFaro-Tusino | bloody tar doesn't work on my N9 - looks like i'll need to use mass storage and manually extract via pc | 11:39 |
| *** dmol has joined #nemomobile | 11:41 | |
| *** M13 has quit IRC | 11:43 | |
| *** Mihanizat0r has joined #nemomobile | 11:43 | |
| sandy_locke | if someone knows how to get fdisk on the n9 | 11:53 |
| sandy_locke | it says 'not found' on my device | 11:53 |
| locusf | hmm | 11:59 |
| MFaro-Tusino | apt-get install frisk? | 11:59 |
| MFaro-Tusino | *fdisk | 11:59 |
| MFaro-Tusino | try /sbin/sfdisk | 11:59 |
| *** zhost has joined #nemomobile | 12:00 | |
| *** Mihanizat0r has quit IRC | 12:05 | |
| sandy_locke | MFaro-Tusino: nice, thanks :) | 12:07 |
| sandy_locke | '/sbin/sfdisk' work | 12:07 |
| *** M13 has joined #nemomobile | 12:07 | |
| MFaro-Tusino | anytime :) | 12:08 |
| sandy_locke | mmmh, I have a mmcblk0p4 completely empty here | 12:08 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i just did a device search for frisk :p | 12:08 |
| MFaro-Tusino | *fdisk | 12:08 |
| sandy_locke | :) | 12:08 |
| MFaro-Tusino | bloody OSX auto-correct | 12:08 |
| sandy_locke | ok, I see the situtation here | 12:12 |
| sandy_locke | I have a mmcblk0p4 partition listed with fdisk, but not in /dev | 12:12 |
| sandy_locke | plus this partition is 0 block wide, beginning at 0 and ending at 0 | 12:12 |
| *** bill_klpd has joined #nemomobile | 12:12 | |
| sandy_locke | if I could just delete it, maybe I could do something with MOSLO! | 12:13 |
| sandy_locke | Is it safe to force delete it from dev mode in harmattan ? | 12:15 |
| *** _moguriso has quit IRC | 12:21 | |
| *** _moguriso has joined #nemomobile | 12:21 | |
| sandy_locke | ok, sfdisk is weird, this mmcblk0p4 is just a slot, not an actual partition, and all those zero means this fourth partition just does not exist^^ | 12:25 |
| sandy_locke | what a wase of time :/ | 12:25 |
| sandy_locke | so back to the start | 12:26 |
| sandy_locke | MOSLO is just a f**k for not willing to partition my mmc ! | 12:27 |
| MFaro-Tusino | hahah | 12:27 |
| MFaro-Tusino | moslo is a pita | 12:27 |
| sandy_locke | but: I've got news ! | 12:28 |
| sandy_locke | I have this in my first partition : end: (c,h,s) expected (1023,3,16) found (1023,63,32) | 12:28 |
| sandy_locke | so MOSLO is not so pita ;) it just won't partition a table with bad sectors assignments I guess | 12:29 |
| sandy_locke | end of partition 1 has impossible value for head: 63 (should be in 0-3) | 12:31 |
| sandy_locke | end of partition 1 has impossible value for sector: 32 (should be in 1-16) | 12:31 |
| sandy_locke | so I must find a way to correct this and try again | 12:31 |
| sandy_locke | but with my knowledge I don't know how to do it | 12:31 |
| MFaro-Tusino | weird as reflash hold fix that | 12:32 |
| sandy_locke | mmh | 12:32 |
| sandy_locke | maybe I should reflash (again) then | 12:32 |
| sandy_locke | but first I would like to know the best command to flash | 12:32 |
| sandy_locke | to be sure the flash will fix this and make MOSLO work | 12:33 |
| sandy_locke | since I already flashed with my own command and it gave this error right after | 12:33 |
| *** KaIRC has joined #nemomobile | 12:36 | |
| sandy_locke | will this "sudo flasher -f -F <yourmainfirmware.bin> --erase-user-data=secure -F <youremmc.bin> --erase-mmc=secure" do the trick ? | 12:37 |
| *** nsuffys has joined #nemomobile | 12:37 | |
| sandy_locke | but I believe this is what I did in the first place | 12:37 |
| sandy_locke | I want something that delete and recreate all partitions | 12:38 |
| *** bill_klpd has quit IRC | 12:39 | |
| *** locusf has quit IRC | 12:40 | |
| *** locusf has joined #nemomobile | 12:42 | |
| sandy_locke | ok ok, flashing with the command above, next flash openmode_fix kernel and trying again with MOSLO | 12:43 |
| MFaro-Tusino | idk - afaik the dmmc flash should fix everything :/ | 12:43 |
| sandy_locke | finger crossed :P | 12:44 |
| MFaro-Tusino | good luck | 12:44 |
| sandy_locke | MFaro-Tusino: yeah hope so | 12:44 |
| sandy_locke | thx | 12:44 |
| MFaro-Tusino | so can anyone tell me | 12:44 |
| MFaro-Tusino | with ubiboot | 12:44 |
| MFaro-Tusino | if I want only nemo/sailfish, do i need to worry about installing nitdroid and the rest? | 12:45 |
| *** amizraa has quit IRC | 12:49 | |
| *** Frye has joined #nemomobile | 12:49 | |
| *** amizraa has joined #nemomobile | 12:53 | |
| *** nodevel has quit IRC | 12:54 | |
| *** bill_klpd has joined #nemomobile | 13:03 | |
| *** Morpog_PC has joined #nemomobile | 13:07 | |
| MFaro-Tusino | I'm giving up - need to sleep - uni exam tomorrow - I know nothing :/ Oh well. Happy hacking guys | 13:14 |
| *** MFaro-Tusino has left #nemomobile | 13:14 | |
| *** Frye has quit IRC | 13:15 | |
| *** bill_klpd has quit IRC | 13:16 | |
| qwazix | sandy_locke, MFaro-Tusino, try with --no-preserve | 13:23 |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: hi | 13:23 |
| sandy_locke | what do you mean ? | 13:24 |
| qwazix | hi! | 13:24 |
| sandy_locke | where --no-preserve? | 13:24 |
| qwazix | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1382784&postcount=7 | 13:24 |
| sandy_locke | mmh, seems interesting | 13:24 |
| sandy_locke | cuz I just finished the zeroize (again) and MOSLO still struggles | 13:25 |
| sandy_locke | do you know if it works ? | 13:25 |
| qwazix | I had a similar issue (though in my case I couldn't flash at all) and --no-preserve fixed it | 13:25 |
| sandy_locke | btw qwazix where we at with glacier ? | 13:25 |
| qwazix | It just restored the N9 to completely factory state | 13:25 |
| sandy_locke | what's needed ? | 13:25 |
| *** VDVsx has quit IRC | 13:26 | |
| sandy_locke | ok | 13:26 |
| sandy_locke | I'll try that then | 13:26 |
| *** VDVsx has joined #nemomobile | 13:26 | |
| qwazix | sandy_locke, I am a bit out of the loop as I was on vacation, and then I had some bad news in the family and now I'm down with a terrible flu. I have to catch up too | 13:26 |
| sandy_locke | should I input the command from your link or should I add --erase-user-data=secure for firmware too ? | 13:26 |
| *** nodevel has joined #nemomobile | 13:26 | |
| qwazix | I saw Sfiet_Konstantin did some work on the spinner... | 13:27 |
| sandy_locke | mmh ok | 13:27 |
| qwazix | sandy_locke, I didn't use secure as far as I remember | 13:27 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, but didn't have occasion to try | 13:27 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 13:27 |
| Morpog_PC | noch much happened sandy_locke | 13:27 |
| sandy_locke | locusf also successfully installed sailfish UI in Nemo | 13:27 |
| qwazix | hi Morpog_PC! | 13:27 |
| Morpog_PC | spinner was done by Sfiet_Konstantin, but not 100% polished | 13:28 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_PC: hi | 13:28 |
| Morpog_PC | hi qwazix | 13:28 |
| Morpog_PC | nemo-theme-glacier is in, so icons are now in | 13:28 |
| Morpog_PC | and I styled lockscreen a bit so it looks like in mockups | 13:28 |
| qwazix | :nod: | 13:29 |
| * qwazix has to fire up N950 and update | 13:29 | |
| Morpog_PC | oh and qwazix that PR is still waiting on github :D | 13:29 |
| qwazix | yep I know, see above | 13:29 |
| Morpog_PC | no pressure | 13:30 |
| Morpog_PC | just a small reminder ;) | 13:30 |
| qwazix | (I failed to mention that my laptop was also bricked with an insane bug) | 13:30 |
| *** zhxt has quit IRC | 13:30 | |
| qwazix | I disabled boot to HDD so that I could flash new bios, and after the BIOS update the command to re-enable a boot device is no more | 13:31 |
| Morpog_PC | nasty bug | 13:32 |
| Morpog_PC | but why do you need to disable HDD to flash a bios? | 13:32 |
| qwazix | Because i ran linux, and bios flashing needed windows | 13:32 |
| qwazix | so I wanted to boot from a winpe flash drive | 13:33 |
| Morpog_PC | errm, no dos flas via USB or directly from BIOS available? | 13:33 |
| qwazix | (and changing the order didn't work initially because of "fast boot", so I tried disabling the HDD) | 13:33 |
| qwazix | no, samsung. | 13:33 |
| Morpog_PC | damn samsung | 13:33 |
| qwazix | even freedos didn't work | 13:33 |
| Morpog_PC | linux supports fastboot? | 13:34 |
| qwazix | yep | 13:34 |
| Morpog_PC | never tried linux on UEFI, it was a hassle enough with windows :) | 13:34 |
| qwazix | I surprisingly didn't have too much problems with UEFI, even secure boot worked | 13:35 |
| sandy_locke | so Morpog_PC, what's the priority with glacier now ? | 13:36 |
| *** jonwil has joined #nemomobile | 13:37 | |
| qwazix | better phrased: it was booting with secureboot enabled. Now if it was really secure IDK | 13:37 |
| *** Pat_o has quit IRC | 13:37 | |
| Morpog_PC | sandy_locke, just choose what you like most to do | 13:38 |
| Morpog_PC | https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec/commit/d854f5db88b042ffad446264f329f1470f3fe343 | 13:39 |
| Morpog_PC | better link: https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec/blob/master/UIComp_List.md | 13:39 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, I think sledges updated that list and put it in wiki, I should just remove it and put up a link | 13:39 |
| Morpog_PC | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Glacier | 13:40 |
| sandy_locke | thx Morpog_PC | 13:41 |
| Morpog_PC | hmm not differentiated between spec and code | 13:41 |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: where in the wiki ? | 13:41 |
| sandy_locke | nevermind ;) | 13:41 |
| qwazix | PR merged | 13:41 |
| *** Frye has joined #nemomobile | 13:43 | |
| sandy_locke | for notifications, are we free to think of something totally new or are we stuck with some needs from nemo structure ? | 13:44 |
| Morpog_PC | oh and VKB should be in nemo now too | 13:44 |
| qwazix | sandy_locke, for notifications I kinda liked what Hurrian proposed | 13:45 |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: link ? | 13:45 |
| qwazix | sec | 13:45 |
| qwazix | http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=640 | 13:46 |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 13:46 | |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: yeah like it too, but those are on the lockscreen. What about non-obstrusive in-app notifications ? | 13:47 |
| qwazix | they are behind an app | 13:47 |
| qwazix | in this case the gallery | 13:47 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 13:48 |
| sandy_locke | I like the fact that it appears from bottom | 13:48 |
| Morpog_PC | oh and when you are using VM, don't wonder that apps are half transparent, it's a regression somewhere | 13:48 |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #nemomobile | 13:48 | |
| sandy_locke | I will then avoid vm's for now then ;) | 13:50 |
| Morpog_PC | well, it looks cool sometimes :) | 13:50 |
| Morpog_PC | especially with my custom lipstick where I added a background image :D | 13:50 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_PC: just need to zypper dup to get latest ? | 13:52 |
| Morpog_PC | yes, but zypper ref first | 13:52 |
| Morpog_PC | given that all repos are setup correctly in your image | 13:53 |
| sandy_locke | btw, I would like to create an account on mer wiki to edit the component list when needed. Will I have access right away after subscribing ? | 13:53 |
| Morpog_PC | yes | 13:53 |
| sandy_locke | ok, thx, I'll try now then | 13:53 |
| sandy_locke | :) | 13:53 |
| Morpog_PC | iirc | 13:53 |
| Morpog_PC | :) | 13:53 |
| sandy_locke | nice | 13:54 |
| sandy_locke | peops, my n9 rebooted after flashing, can I still shut it down and flash openmode firmware ? Or do I have to redo the process ? | 13:58 |
| Morpog_PC | think so | 13:58 |
| Morpog_PC | about still being able | 13:59 |
| Morpog_PC | you can flash openmode even after 2 years use of harmattan | 13:59 |
| Morpog_PC | also you should remove that disclaimer first | 13:59 |
| Morpog_PC | from within harmattan | 14:00 |
| *** Pat_o has joined #nemomobile | 14:00 | |
| *** cristi has joined #nemomobile | 14:01 | |
| sandy_locke | disclaimer is already removed | 14:02 |
| sandy_locke | it is, if it did not come back after the flash ^^ | 14:03 |
| sandy_locke | I'll try then... | 14:03 |
| Morpog_PC | I'm sure it's back after a reflash | 14:04 |
| Morpog_PC | Can't wait to get my Jolla, so I can finally flash nemo on my N9 :D | 14:05 |
| sandy_locke | mmmh, you were right :/ | 14:05 |
| sandy_locke | I got it back, but I think I'll stick with it now | 14:05 |
| Morpog_PC | now it's too late :) | 14:05 |
| sandy_locke | since it means a reflash | 14:05 |
| sandy_locke | yup | 14:05 |
| sandy_locke | hum, I think... I think that flashing the firmware *after* a reboot mess things up | 14:06 |
| sandy_locke | the device won't reboot | 14:06 |
| sandy_locke | nevermind, it did reboot :D | 14:07 |
| *** bill_klpd has joined #nemomobile | 14:07 | |
| Morpog_PC | deleted my text line ;D | 14:07 |
| sandy_locke | "repartitioning failed", and unable to copy files to Alt_OS | 14:10 |
| sandy_locke | :/ | 14:10 |
| sandy_locke | again and again and again | 14:10 |
| sandy_locke | I think I'll give up | 14:10 |
| Morpog_PC | :( | 14:11 |
| *** itbaron has joined #nemomobile | 14:11 | |
| *** guoyunhebrave has quit IRC | 14:11 | |
| Morpog_PC | maybe sledges can help | 14:11 |
| qwazix | why don't you try manually repartitioning? | 14:12 |
| Morpog_PC | or locusf | 14:12 |
| Morpog_PC | or qwazix :D | 14:12 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_PC: if someone can help me to do it, I'll do it | 14:13 |
| bill_klpd | hey guys what's up :D | 14:13 |
| sandy_locke | but right now I spent too much time on something that won"t work | 14:14 |
| sandy_locke | time that could be spent in actual work on nemo ^^ | 14:14 |
| sandy_locke | hi bill_klpd | 14:14 |
| Morpog_PC | sandy_locke, use VM till someone can hekp you out | 14:14 |
| sandy_locke | yup, that's what I'll do | 14:14 |
| sandy_locke | I am upgrading the vm right now | 14:15 |
| qwazix | sandy_locke, I don't know about fdisk commands, but I remember there were step by step instructions in the log not long ago | 14:15 |
| qwazix | bill_klpd, hey | 14:15 |
| bill_klpd | :D | 14:15 |
| sandy_locke | would mean checking logs for something that might not even work in my case :/ | 14:15 |
| sandy_locke | I'll work on nemo instead, fed up with tinkering with MOSLO and it's badass behaviour ;) | 14:16 |
| *** guoyunhebrave has joined #nemomobile | 14:16 | |
| *** nodevel has quit IRC | 14:17 | |
| *** guoyunhebrave has quit IRC | 14:18 | |
| *** nodevel has joined #nemomobile | 14:18 | |
| *** NIN101 has quit IRC | 14:19 | |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: Morpog_PC: has someone already done something with the dialogs ? | 14:19 |
| sandy_locke | might do something with that if not | 14:19 |
| qwazix | what dialogs? | 14:19 |
| *** NIN101 has joined #nemomobile | 14:20 | |
| qwazix | sheet etc? | 14:20 |
| sandy_locke | I meant something like dialogs that appear to ask user input, like "ok" or "cancel" stuffs | 14:21 |
| Morpog_PC | mer wiki says Nothing Yet :D | 14:21 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_PC: it did also for notificiations ;) (I just changed it to add Hurrian mockup) | 14:22 |
| Morpog_PC | sandy_locke, mockup is on the left "Design Status" all on Done | 14:22 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_PC: my VM just froze while doing zypper dup while installing tzdata-timed-2013 package ?! | 14:23 |
| Morpog_PC | right ctril + h | 14:23 |
| sandy_locke | mmmh, sorry | 14:23 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_PC: what should it do ? It does nothing for me (I'm using a mac) | 14:23 |
| qwazix | so bill_klpd welcome to #nemomobile! | 14:24 |
| bill_klpd | thanks :) | 14:24 |
| sandy_locke | if design status for dialogs is "done", so where can I find it ??? | 14:24 |
| qwazix | here is what we are now working on https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Glacier | 14:24 |
| sandy_locke | ah, bill_klpd is a new guy ? | 14:25 |
| sandy_locke | welcome then :D | 14:25 |
| bill_klpd | hahaha yeap :P | 14:25 |
| qwazix | we're doing it a bit unorthodoxally, writing specs while other people implement, but that's the joy of not having strict deadlines and stuff and doing things for fun | 14:25 |
| qwazix | everybody picks a task that finds interesting | 14:26 |
| bill_klpd | ok... so if I can help, what can I do and what things am I going to need? :D | 14:27 |
| qwazix | for starters you can get the Virtualbox vm to see nemo running for yourself | 14:28 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, got a link? | 14:29 |
| bill_klpd | i do have virtualbox vm on my pc(windows 8) | 14:29 |
| bill_klpd | (windows 8 )* | 14:29 |
| bill_klpd | I suppose I can do this with this, right? | 14:30 |
| qwazix | You sure can | 14:31 |
| qwazix | It's just a VM | 14:31 |
| sandy_locke | bill_klpd: safer way to go with it ;) | 14:31 |
| sandy_locke | all you risk is waste time if it doesn't work :P | 14:31 |
| sandy_locke | but you shoudln't ;) | 14:32 |
| bill_klpd | can I do the same for the sdk, or I will need a linux host as the wiki says? | 14:32 |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: Morpog_PC : how do I reboot the vm safely ? | 14:32 |
| Morpog_PC | sorry, was in bathroom | 14:32 |
| sandy_locke | bill_klpd: linux host needed | 14:32 |
| sandy_locke | but can do with a VM too | 14:32 |
| sandy_locke | ;) | 14:32 |
| Morpog_PC | sledges compiled that list, so I dunno | 14:32 |
| Morpog_PC | lets check hurrians mockup for it | 14:33 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_PC: ^ | 14:33 |
| sandy_locke | reboot vm safely | 14:33 |
| qwazix | sandy_locke, I guess ssh to it and issue reboot as root? | 14:33 |
| Morpog_PC | sandy_locke, right ctrl + c is on windows, dunno what it is on mac | 14:33 |
| Morpog_PC | it's does screen blank | 14:33 |
| Morpog_PC | like if you lock/unlock on N9 | 14:34 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_PC: hum do you happen to have the VM to freeze when not in focus anymore ? | 14:34 |
| Morpog_PC | no | 14:34 |
| sandy_locke | because it does that for me all the time | 14:34 |
| Morpog_PC | but it blanks after a while | 14:34 |
| *** jonwil has quit IRC | 14:34 | |
| sandy_locke | mmh, then I think there"s an issue with Nemo sleep and my vb ^^ | 14:35 |
| Morpog_PC | in the right bottom corner of your vm should be the blank command | 14:35 |
| sandy_locke | it freezes instead of screen going blank, and now way to unfreeze it | 14:35 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_PC: nope :/ | 14:36 |
| Morpog_PC | sandy_locke, it freezes here too, it gives blank command but doesn't show it | 14:36 |
| sandy_locke | how do I unfreeze it then ? | 14:36 |
| Morpog_PC | right ctrl + h :) | 14:37 |
| Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/unbenanntpgs3g.png | 14:37 |
| Morpog_PC | does the image load for you? | 14:37 |
| Morpog_PC | doesn't for me | 14:38 |
| sandy_locke | ok for me it's the command key, but it's still frozen ^^ | 14:38 |
| sandy_locke | actually, the main screen is still visible | 14:38 |
| qwazix | bill_klpd, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Images | 14:38 |
| sandy_locke | but no input is recognized | 14:38 |
| Morpog_PC | sandy_locke, screen is also visible for me when it's frouen | 14:38 |
| sandy_locke | and right ctrl does the trick for you ? it unfreeze ? | 14:39 |
| Morpog_PC | click in the window to set it to active focus | 14:39 |
| Morpog_PC | then command key + h | 14:39 |
| Morpog_PC | after that you should see the lockscreen with latest updates | 14:40 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, do you think that our lockscreen unlocks too easily? | 14:40 |
| Morpog_PC | hmm, on VM not | 14:41 |
| qwazix | I have that problem with my BB and I suppose N9 didn't unlock in pocket because of edge swipe. On the other hand I didn't have this problem with WP7 which has exactly the same lockscreen as ours | 14:41 |
| Morpog_PC | btw qwazix i made a mockup of that opcity lockscreen, but not sure if I like it | 14:42 |
| qwazix | opacity lockscreen? | 14:42 |
| Morpog_PC | second I upload | 14:43 |
| Morpog_PC | well, my upload is bad, so it's a bit more than a second :) | 14:44 |
| qwazix | hehe | 14:44 |
| Morpog_PC | damn, image is too big for abload.de lol | 14:45 |
| Morpog_PC | going to abuse grog for it | 14:46 |
| qwazix | wait a sec | 14:47 |
| Morpog_PC | it's at 45% already | 14:47 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_PC: command key + h hides the vm into the dock of macos ^^ | 14:48 |
| sandy_locke | and I cannot access nemo through ssh at nemo@localhost ^^ | 14:48 |
| sandy_locke | access denied ^^ | 14:48 |
| Morpog_PC | errrm, maybe it's a different key in macos then | 14:48 |
| sandy_locke | must be ^^ | 14:48 |
| sandy_locke | do you have somewhere where the shortcut is written, like in some menu or sth ? | 14:49 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, http://play.qwazix.com/grog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/lockscreen.gif | 14:50 |
| sandy_locke | why is it called "opacity" lockscreen ? | 14:52 |
| qwazix | :nod: it's not bad, just a sec | 14:52 |
| qwazix | got a link to the background image | 14:52 |
| qwazix | ? | 14:52 |
| Morpog_PC | because it gets faded out | 14:52 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, on nemo artwork | 14:52 |
| qwazix | ok | 14:52 |
| Morpog_PC | or with clock, etc.? | 14:52 |
| Morpog_PC | mmh seems I delted those images already | 14:53 |
| Morpog_PC | brbr, need to eat some cake and drink coffee | 14:53 |
| sandy_locke | there should be an option on Nemo VM to disable sleep mode !! | 14:53 |
| Morpog_PC | sandy_locke, there sure is, just no settings app for it | 14:54 |
| sandy_locke | then locusf and I need to talk ;) | 14:54 |
| *** timoph has joined #nemomobile | 14:55 | |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_PC: your lockscreen is pretty nice I think, even though it needs some polishing | 14:58 |
| Morpog_PC | sure, I'm just a QML beginner | 14:58 |
| Morpog_PC | and not a coder at all :) | 14:59 |
| Morpog_PC | I tried to have it look like hurrian's mockup | 14:59 |
| Morpog_PC | now really off to cake and coffee | 15:00 |
| sandy_locke | it would be cool to see the text on the lockscreen fade with a blurry effect too | 15:00 |
| sandy_locke | see ya then :) | 15:00 |
| Morpog_PC | sandy_locke, have a go on it, fork away and test :) | 15:00 |
| sandy_locke | ok, I'll look into that :) | 15:01 |
| locusf | sandy_locke: talk about what :) ? | 15:03 |
| sandy_locke | hi locusf | 15:03 |
| sandy_locke | :) | 15:03 |
| bill_klpd | hey guys I am downloading the image for the vm right now :D | 15:03 |
| sandy_locke | bill_klpd: keep us informed of how things go :) | 15:03 |
| bill_klpd | by the way I really likes the lockscreen ;) | 15:03 |
| bill_klpd | liked* | 15:03 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, http://play.qwazix.com/shared/lockscreen.png | 15:04 |
| sandy_locke | locusf: I use the nemo VM right now (because I can't install nemo on my n9, but it's another topic of discussion) | 15:04 |
| locusf | sandy_locke: cool | 15:04 |
| sandy_locke | but each time nemo goes to sleep, the screen freezes and no way to get it working again | 15:04 |
| qwazix | with the "glass" moving as the user slides. The icons will quickly fade in when the swipe is complete | 15:04 |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: or the icons could appear along the swipe, like they're already baked on the glass ? | 15:06 |
| sandy_locke | locusf: ^ | 15:06 |
| *** Morpog_ has joined #nemomobile | 15:06 | |
| sandy_locke | nemo sleep | 15:06 |
| locusf | sandy_locke: I know the issue, I don't however remember the mcetool command that prevented it | 15:06 |
| qwazix | possible too, but as I see it on blackberry where there is a similar effect, the icons are too many and you hardly notice the change of blurryness | 15:06 |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: right, need to see it in action but I believe you | 15:07 |
| sandy_locke | locusf: arf ^^ | 15:07 |
| qwazix | ?? why are the icons getting huge upon click? | 15:07 |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: on VM ? | 15:08 |
| qwazix | N950 | 15:08 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 15:08 |
| qwazix | something is broken | 15:08 |
| qwazix | can't launch any app | 15:08 |
| qwazix | can't unlock either | 15:08 |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC | 15:08 | |
| sandy_locke | locusf: do you happen to know the equivalent of CTRL+H (win) for mac vb ? | 15:08 |
| *** Morpog_PC has quit IRC | 15:08 | |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: sounds bad... reboot ? | 15:09 |
| qwazix | rebooting now | 15:09 |
| *** Morpog_PC has joined #nemomobile | 15:09 | |
| qwazix | sandy_locke, http://cdn.asia.cnet.com/story_media/62221337/%282%29%20BB%20Z10%20Lockscreen%20flow.JPG | 15:10 |
| locusf | sandy_locke: no | 15:10 |
| locusf | sandy_locke: try mcetool -Don | 15:10 |
| qwazix | ^ too many things beneath to realize that it's the same wallpaper | 15:10 |
| *** giucam has joined #nemomobile | 15:10 | |
| *** Morpog_ has quit IRC | 15:11 | |
| qwazix | nah, after update it's completely broken... | 15:11 |
| qwazix | anyway, I don't feel very well. See you later (hopefully) | 15:12 |
| sandy_locke | see you qwazix | 15:14 |
| sandy_locke | rest well | 15:14 |
| sandy_locke | locusf: I'll try that | 15:15 |
| bill_klpd | bye :) | 15:15 |
| sandy_locke | how is it going bill_klpd ? | 15:15 |
| bill_klpd | I still wait for the image :P | 15:16 |
| sandy_locke | :P | 15:17 |
| sandy_locke | locusf: do you happen to know why ssh -o port=22 nemo@localhost give me connection refused (to access VM) ? | 15:18 |
| locusf | sandy_locke: no, I don't know :/ | 15:18 |
| sandy_locke | arf, thx anyway | 15:18 |
| sandy_locke | locusf: mcetool -Don work :D thanks a lot !! | 15:22 |
| locusf | cool I remembered it lol :) | 15:22 |
| *** dazo is now known as dazo_afk | 15:27 | |
| *** Pat_o has quit IRC | 15:43 | |
| Morpog_PC | sandy_locke, did you follow the guide on wiki for ssh? | 15:52 |
| *** thomas_sch has quit IRC | 15:52 | |
| sandy_locke | well it worked before, but I might look at the wiki again, doesn't hurt :) | 15:52 |
| Morpog_PC | btw locusf is there a command to change keyboard locale? | 15:53 |
| Morpog_PC | zes | 15:53 |
| Morpog_PC | damn, lol | 15:53 |
| *** martyone has joined #nemomobile | 15:54 | |
| sandy_locke | my bad ^^it was port 4022 and not 22 :O | 15:54 |
| sandy_locke | thx Morpog_PC :) | 15:54 |
| bill_klpd | I installed nemo on vm, but it looks exactly like the nemo on my n900! Is this right, or I downloaded an old image? | 16:00 |
| locusf | Morpog_PC: I son't know | 16:01 |
| *** alin_ has quit IRC | 16:01 | |
| Morpog_PC | bill_klpd, depends on the image you downloaded | 16:02 |
| bill_klpd | I downloaded the one on the wiki: 2013-10-30 | 16:02 |
| sandy_locke | seems to me it's pretty recent | 16:04 |
| sandy_locke | but I believe you have some steps to do before it's completely updated | 16:04 |
| sandy_locke | you know how to ssh to your vm ? | 16:04 |
| Morpog_PC | bill_klpd, zypper ref | 16:04 |
| Morpog_PC | after that zypper dup | 16:04 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_PC: he will need to remove old mesa package, otherwise nemo won't boot up after zypper dup | 16:05 |
| Morpog_PC | with that image still? | 16:05 |
| sandy_locke | IDK, but it probably still is | 16:05 |
| *** artemma has joined #nemomobile | 16:06 | |
| *** Morpog_ has joined #nemomobile | 16:07 | |
| *** M13 has quit IRC | 16:07 | |
| Morpog_ | it was fixed as far as i remember | 16:07 |
| Morpog_ | sledges should know or locusf | 16:07 |
| locusf | it is fixed | 16:09 |
| Morpog_ | :) | 16:09 |
| Morpog_ | bill_klpd, so zypper ref and zypper dup away! | 16:09 |
| *** Morpog_PC has quit IRC | 16:09 | |
| *** bill_klpd has quit IRC | 16:10 | |
| locusf | though I don't know about the vm | 16:11 |
| timoph | so a new prebuild image is needed? | 16:11 |
| *** Morpog has joined #nemomobile | 16:14 | |
| *** Morpog_ has quit IRC | 16:16 | |
| sandy_locke | Morpog: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zp86sm9un44u9nm/Normal_Dialog.png | 16:17 |
| sandy_locke | what do you think ? | 16:17 |
| *** juiceme has joined #nemomobile | 16:18 | |
| Morpog | looking good, but is modal, something that qwazix tried to prevent | 16:19 |
| sandy_locke | mmh, so what should be done ? | 16:19 |
| sandy_locke | there's no more modal dialogs then ? | 16:19 |
| sandy_locke | it should be seamlessly integrated to the current screen ? | 16:20 |
| Morpog | I dunno if there is a good way to have Dialog non modal | 16:20 |
| sandy_locke | let's get it straight, modal is when it's a new window, right ? | 16:20 |
| Morpog | maybe we just nbeed to accept it and use it only where it's really needed | 16:20 |
| *** DarkSim has joined #nemomobile | 16:20 | |
| Morpog | yes | 16:20 |
| Morpog | and it's stealing focus | 16:21 |
| sandy_locke | it could be really handy for stuffs that can't be undone | 16:21 |
| Morpog | yep, stuff that REALLY needs your attention | 16:21 |
| sandy_locke | or find another way, but that should still steal focus anyway when it comes to really important stuffs | 16:22 |
| DarkSim | So what are your thoughts on the Jolla phone now that basically everything has been released? | 16:22 |
| *** bill_klpd has joined #nemomobile | 16:23 | |
| sandy_locke | DarkSim: seem nice but still waiting to see real use tests | 16:23 |
| DarkSim | I like it, but as many people have noted the screen resolution seems pretty low in comparison to the relatively high price for it | 16:23 |
| bill_klpd | hey sorry for logging out like this | 16:23 |
| DarkSim | but I guess that is what happens when you aren't Samsung or Google | 16:24 |
| Morpog | DarkSim, yeah I still really like it. Would have wished for some better specs to be future proof, but I'm sure it will be very smooth on this HW | 16:24 |
| bill_klpd | I will make it later because I can't right now... | 16:24 |
| Morpog | bill_klpd, no prob | 16:24 |
| DarkSim | I'm more thinking of getting a cheap Nexus phone and then getting Sailfish onto there in a later stage if I really want to | 16:24 |
| DarkSim | Because I'm not sure if I can downgrade myself that much tech-wise | 16:24 |
| sandy_locke | screen resolution is a real deal breaker I believe nowadays | 16:25 |
| Morpog | DarkSim, I'm sure the experience will not be the same as on Jolla phone | 16:25 |
| DarkSim | That would be bad | 16:25 |
| Morpog | also I guess it would miss the android compatibility | 16:25 |
| sandy_locke | the pros of the Jolla is really the other side (apart from the os itself) | 16:25 |
| DarkSim | It's not that I'm counting pixels, but not even 720p is pretty strange in my book | 16:26 |
| Morpog | DarkSim, I couldn'ts ee pixels on my N9 | 16:26 |
| DarkSim | Yeah, like I said, I don | 16:26 |
| sandy_locke | It's because you've tasted high resolution phones ;) | 16:26 |
| DarkSim | don't exactly count pixels | 16:26 |
| DarkSim | but it seems really low | 16:26 |
| Morpog | so I won't see them on my Jolla, as it has higher resolution and no pentile matrix | 16:26 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog: any idea when you'll recevie yours ? | 16:27 |
| sandy_locke | you have to give us a full review, with screenshots and screencasts ;) | 16:27 |
| Morpog | no Idea, I hope they send it out on 27th | 16:27 |
| Morpog | lol | 16:28 |
| Morpog | you can ask faenil he got one | 16:28 |
| sandy_locke | already ? how ? | 16:28 |
| *** Pat_o has joined #nemomobile | 16:28 | |
| *** bill_klpd has quit IRC | 16:28 | |
| Morpog | he does an internship at Jolla atm | 16:28 |
| Morpog | that lucky bastard :D | 16:29 |
| sandy_locke | lucky indeed ! | 16:30 |
| *** bill_klpd has joined #nemomobile | 16:30 | |
| sandy_locke | so he in finland now ? | 16:30 |
| Morpog | yes | 16:31 |
| locusf | skilled too :) | 16:31 |
| bill_klpd | I wish I had the money to buy one myself :D | 16:31 |
| Morpog | If I wouldn't need to work on that day, I would have traveled to helsinki to get it first :) | 16:32 |
| DarkSim | It's just that I bought a phone about 2 years ago and I buy the more expensive stuff to last for a good amount of time | 16:32 |
| DarkSim | and that phone costs almost as much as my phone did 2 years ago | 16:33 |
| Morpog | DarkSim, well, If I would have cared about specs I wouldn't have gotten a N9 two years ago, as that was alot more outdated than Jolla is now. | 16:33 |
| Morpog | AND the N9 cost me 650€ | 16:33 |
| DarkSim | Well I'm not totally hunting specs, I bought this phone based on specs and I regret it | 16:33 |
| DarkSim | Oh so much | 16:33 |
| DarkSim | It's not that I'm cheap, it's that I don't have money to toss around :P | 16:34 |
| Morpog | yep and that was for a 16GB one | 16:34 |
| DarkSim | Tegra 3 is a piece of shit | 16:35 |
| DarkSim | That's one big reason my phone sucks | 16:35 |
| DarkSim | HTC is the other one | 16:35 |
| DarkSim | Guess my phone? | 16:35 |
| Morpog | tegra 3 is fine on my nexus 7 | 16:37 |
| Morpog | DarkSim, a One X? | 16:37 |
| DarkSim | Bingo | 16:37 |
| Morpog | well, android is a ressource hog | 16:37 |
| Morpog | it gets better with more recent android versions | 16:38 |
| DarkSim | It's not that, it's basically that whenever I do something fun it bursts into flames and I can't flash anything interesting on it since it's locked down | 16:38 |
| Morpog | DarkSim, well that won't happen on a Jolla I guess | 16:38 |
| sandy_locke | the best fun is with an N9 ;) | 16:39 |
| sandy_locke | if you buy Android, you should be able to flash Replicant on it | 16:40 |
| Morpog | or get a Nexus 5 | 16:46 |
| *** nodevel has quit IRC | 16:48 | |
| *** nodevel has joined #nemomobile | 16:48 | |
| sandy_locke | yup nexus for all the projects that have been ported to it ! | 16:50 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pdj8hr4y4h9wed2/Normal_Dialog_Unobstrusive.png | 16:51 |
| sandy_locke | and what about sth like this ^ ? | 16:51 |
| *** itbaron has quit IRC | 16:53 | |
| bill_klpd | sandy_locke: I like more the second one :D | 16:53 |
| sandy_locke | yeah me too | 16:53 |
| sandy_locke | ;) | 16:53 |
| Morpog | same here | 16:53 |
| ryukafalz | second one looks more readable in the case of a white image | 16:53 |
| bill_klpd | true... | 16:53 |
| Morpog | but it could be the other way around on a dark background | 16:53 |
| ryukafalz | hmm? | 16:54 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, like Morpog says: first one, on white background inverts its colors | 16:54 |
| ryukafalz | ahh, alright | 16:54 |
| sandy_locke | but it"s more tricky to implement | 16:55 |
| sandy_locke | and as for the appearance, instead of slide up I would prefer a 'blurry appearance' if technically possible | 16:55 |
| sandy_locke | though I don't know how to make an animated mockup to show what I mean... | 16:56 |
| *** OrokuSaki has joined #nemomobile | 16:56 | |
| sandy_locke | I need to go buy cigarets | 16:56 |
| sandy_locke | bbl guys | 16:56 |
| OrokuSaki | Got lipstick working with hp touchpad and -platform eglfs | 16:57 |
| OrokuSaki | yay! =) | 16:57 |
| OrokuSaki | I had to use ice cream sandwich | 16:57 |
| *** Eztran has joined #nemomobile | 16:57 | |
| Morpog | cool | 16:57 |
| OrokuSaki | I am missing icons and wallpapers.. =( | 16:57 |
| OrokuSaki | http://pastebin.com/XY2y3HPp | 16:57 |
| OrokuSaki | anyone know.. where to get them? I started with a daily n950 root filesystem from a torrent on the nemo website | 16:58 |
| OrokuSaki | I do not have those missing files... | 16:58 |
| Morpog | no theme installed? | 16:58 |
| OrokuSaki | I have zypper installed *meegotouch* as well =) | 16:58 |
| OrokuSaki | installed glacier theme, etc | 16:58 |
| Morpog | nemo-theme-default | 16:58 |
| OrokuSaki | try that | 16:59 |
| Morpog | and meegotouch-theme-darko | 16:59 |
| OrokuSaki | it says I already have the highest installed | 16:59 |
| OrokuSaki | darko is installed as well | 16:59 |
| Morpog | theme daemon maybe? | 17:00 |
| OrokuSaki | find / -name apps.png | 17:00 |
| OrokuSaki | zero files found | 17:00 |
| *** cristi has quit IRC | 17:00 | |
| Morpog | MLocalThemeDaemonClient::MLocalThemeDaemonClient(const QString&, QObject*) Theme "blanco" is invalid | 17:02 |
| *** bill_klpd has quit IRC | 17:02 | |
| *** M13 has joined #nemomobile | 17:12 | |
| *** cristi has joined #nemomobile | 17:14 | |
| *** sandy_locke is now known as sandy_locke|away | 17:14 | |
| OrokuSaki | @Morpog good reading... hmmm qmlnotes-theme-blanco-extra is installed | 17:17 |
| OrokuSaki | that is all I find when I zypper search blanko | 17:17 |
| OrokuSaki | it seems to be in /usr/share/themes | 17:19 |
| *** sandy_locke|away is now known as sandy_locke | 17:20 | |
| *** arcean has quit IRC | 17:22 | |
| *** arcean has joined #nemomobile | 17:23 | |
| *** dmol has quit IRC | 17:23 | |
| *** Mihanizat0r has joined #nemomobile | 17:26 | |
| *** dmol has joined #nemomobile | 17:27 | |
| *** M13 has quit IRC | 17:29 | |
| sandy_locke | am back | 17:36 |
| *** dmol has quit IRC | 17:41 | |
| *** dmol has joined #nemomobile | 17:42 | |
| *** Mihanizat0r has quit IRC | 17:47 | |
| *** M13 has joined #nemomobile | 17:49 | |
| *** itbaron has joined #nemomobile | 17:54 | |
| sandy_locke | Morpog: you there ? | 18:12 |
| Morpog | yep | 18:12 |
| sandy_locke | cool, here : http://plateforme.test.pagesperso-orange.fr/nemo_blur_effect/index.html | 18:13 |
| sandy_locke | just hover | 18:13 |
| sandy_locke | I want this in place of slide up | 18:13 |
| sandy_locke | what do you think ? | 18:13 |
| Morpog | hmm, nothing happens when hovering | 18:13 |
| sandy_locke | what browser do you use ? | 18:13 |
| Morpog | FF Nightly | 18:13 |
| sandy_locke | you need either webkit or firefox | 18:14 |
| sandy_locke | mmh strange | 18:14 |
| sandy_locke | it work on my side | 18:14 |
| Morpog | works on chrome | 18:15 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 18:15 |
| sandy_locke | noce | 18:15 |
| Morpog | could be a nightly regression on FF | 18:15 |
| sandy_locke | nic | 18:15 |
| sandy_locke | nice * | 18:15 |
| sandy_locke | maybe, it's css3 filter effects | 18:15 |
| sandy_locke | I used -moz-filter: blur though | 18:15 |
| Morpog | so instant appear and unblurs? | 18:15 |
| sandy_locke | and simple generic filter too | 18:15 |
| sandy_locke | not really | 18:16 |
| sandy_locke | fades in while unblurring | 18:16 |
| Morpog | ah ok | 18:16 |
| Morpog | could look ok | 18:16 |
| Morpog | but | 18:16 |
| Morpog | without shaders it will be slow :) | 18:16 |
| sandy_locke | I think that if technically feasable, it could be a distinction from competition | 18:16 |
| sandy_locke | mmh, that's what I thought, technical issue may occur :/ | 18:17 |
| Morpog | I haven't played yet with those new shader stuff in QQICK2 | 18:17 |
| Morpog | or well I tried, but nothing worked | 18:17 |
| Morpog | :D | 18:17 |
| sandy_locke | :/ | 18:18 |
| Morpog | in the end you should ask qwazix being our design leader | 18:19 |
| sandy_locke | and what about locusf & al ? | 18:19 |
| sandy_locke | did they try it ? | 18:19 |
| Morpog | sure, the more opinions the better | 18:19 |
| Morpog | I think they did | 18:19 |
| Morpog | that new button could be done via shader | 18:19 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog: http://plateforme.test.pagesperso-orange.fr/nemo_blur_effect/index.html | 18:21 |
| sandy_locke | with opacity also | 18:21 |
| Morpog | that one works in FF | 18:22 |
| sandy_locke | ^^ | 18:22 |
| sandy_locke | blur and opacity or just opacity ? | 18:22 |
| Morpog | yeah looks cool | 18:22 |
| Morpog | b oth | 18:22 |
| sandy_locke | :) | 18:22 |
| *** M13 has quit IRC | 18:24 | |
| Morpog | button uses QtGraphicalEffect | 18:25 |
| Morpog | not sure if that is done by shaders | 18:25 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog: do you think I should look further for the dialogs or do I go in this direction for the others ? | 18:25 |
| sandy_locke | mmh, yes, buttons will need the effect too ^^ | 18:25 |
| Morpog | well, button works like in button spec | 18:26 |
| Morpog | you can try it already in nemo after you install the examples | 18:26 |
| sandy_locke | and is it possible to take a screenshot in the background of the whole dialog, blur it and display the actual dialog ? | 18:26 |
| sandy_locke | a bit messy but it could do the trick... | 18:27 |
| Morpog | should work too, but I guess it's faster via shader | 18:27 |
| sandy_locke | yes, but if buttons don't support shaders ... | 18:27 |
| Morpog | IF the GPU does the job of course | 18:27 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog: buttons are in QML Component gallery ? I don't have them, it's the old ones... | 18:28 |
| sandy_locke | should I update QML Comp ? | 18:28 |
| Morpog | sandy_locke, I see QtGraphicalEffect is based on using shaders | 18:29 |
| Morpog | http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2012/02/02/qt-graphical-effects-in-qt-labs/ | 18:29 |
| Morpog | sandy_locke, not qml components | 18:29 |
| Morpog | qtquickcontrols | 18:29 |
| Morpog | qml components = old stuff | 18:29 |
| sandy_locke | and where's qtquickcontrols ? | 18:30 |
| Morpog | zypper in qt5-qtquickcontrols-nemo | 18:30 |
| Morpog | and | 18:30 |
| Morpog | zypper in qt5-qtquickcontrols-nemo-examples | 18:30 |
| Morpog | after that you can launch it via terminal | 18:31 |
| Morpog | cd /usr/lib/qt5/examples | 18:31 |
| Morpog | QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_STYLE=Nemo ./touch_nemo | 18:31 |
| Morpog | won't work over ssh though | 18:32 |
| locusf | it doesn't? | 18:33 |
| Morpog | not here | 18:33 |
| locusf | ok | 18:33 |
| Morpog | maybe need to add DISPLAY:= or so? | 18:33 |
| locusf | no DISPLAY anymore :) | 18:34 |
| locusf | we're on wayland | 18:34 |
| Morpog | wayland equivalent? | 18:34 |
| locusf | I guess | 18:34 |
| Morpog | via SSH it says: | 18:34 |
| Morpog | Failed to load platform plugin "xcb". Available platforms are: | 18:35 |
| Morpog | eglfs | 18:35 |
| Morpog | wayland-egl | 18:35 |
| Morpog | wayland | 18:35 |
| Morpog | Aborted | 18:35 |
| locusf | append -platform wayland | 18:35 |
| sandy_locke | for me the last line gives me a Failed to create display | 18:36 |
| Morpog | same here | 18:36 |
| locusf | hmm ok | 18:36 |
| locusf | fingerterm only then | 18:36 |
| Morpog | second I was root | 18:36 |
| Morpog | works as user :) | 18:36 |
| locusf | cool :) | 18:37 |
| OrokuSaki | Morpog: its because I was root | 18:37 |
| OrokuSaki | =) | 18:37 |
| OrokuSaki | I know have themes | 18:37 |
| OrokuSaki | now | 18:37 |
| Morpog | oh well, same fault which I just did :) | 18:38 |
| OrokuSaki | =) | 18:38 |
| sandy_locke | locusf: did this in fingerterm but as root | 18:38 |
| sandy_locke | trying as user | 18:38 |
| OrokuSaki | chmod 666 /dev/genlock chmod 666 /dev/log/* chmod 666 /dev/kgsl* | 18:38 |
| Morpog | it's easy to identify me as windows user that way :) | 18:38 |
| Morpog | sandy_locke, try via SSH, way more comfortable | 18:39 |
| sandy_locke | ^^yup I should have | 18:39 |
| Morpog | where is the spinner btw? Did no one tag? | 18:39 |
| sandy_locke | but it worked anyway | 18:39 |
| locusf | yeah forgot to tag | 18:40 |
| sandy_locke | though this transparent bug prevent from seeing everything | 18:40 |
| Morpog | sandy_locke, I'm living with that since about 4 weeks :D | 18:40 |
| sandy_locke | ^^ damn! | 18:41 |
| sandy_locke | and nobody to relieve your pain ??? | 18:41 |
| Morpog | and the VKB is gone again here since a few updates | 18:41 |
| locusf | at least its confirmed now | 18:41 |
| Morpog | locusf, I think sledges or faenil confirmed it too | 18:41 |
| locusf | oh cool | 18:41 |
| *** Pat_o has quit IRC | 18:46 | |
| sandy_locke | Morpog: what do you mean by "gone" ? | 18:46 |
| Morpog | where did I say that? :D | 18:47 |
| Morpog | aaah there | 18:48 |
| Morpog | lol | 18:48 |
| Morpog | well, no VKB appears at all for me | 18:48 |
| Morpog | happened for me 2nd time now | 18:48 |
| Morpog | 1st time it was gone it took a few weeks and it was back again after a zypper update | 18:49 |
| Morpog | but now a few days ago it was gone again after a zypper update | 18:49 |
| *** furikku has quit IRC | 18:50 | |
| sandy_locke | ah ? for me it's better than a month ago | 18:50 |
| sandy_locke | it appears all the time AND disappear when not needed anymore :D | 18:50 |
| Morpog | and should have glacier style now, or? | 18:51 |
| sandy_locke | before once showed up it wouldn't go away | 18:51 |
| sandy_locke | yes glacier style and cursor stick in the middle | 18:51 |
| sandy_locke | still too large for the screen though, only complaint :/ | 18:51 |
| sandy_locke | qt5-quiccontrols should be an app with it's own icon in the main screen ! | 18:53 |
| sandy_locke | shouldn't be too hard to do I believe, hope someone will work on it ;) | 18:53 |
| qwazix | sandy_locke, good work on dialogs, I got a lot of comments though | 18:54 |
| Morpog | well, it just needs a .desktop file | 18:54 |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: what do you mean "lot of comments" ? | 18:55 |
| qwazix | You'll see | 18:55 |
| qwazix | :P | 18:55 |
| Morpog | :D | 18:55 |
| sandy_locke | ^^ | 18:55 |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: so you saw the blur effect ? what do you think ? | 18:56 |
| qwazix | First Morpog is right that we want to avoid modality, but some times it is necessary, so that full screen dialog should stay, for some really rare cases | 18:56 |
| qwazix | Second, the layout is good, but the text needs work. The title should be more descriptive of the action, the "OK" button should have the action text in it ("Delete") | 18:56 |
| sandy_locke | right | 18:57 |
| qwazix | title: Delete this picture? body: The image will be permanently deleted Buttons: Cancel, Delete | 18:58 |
| qwazix | Now, about the blur, it's very nice and I like the active blurring in maemo too, but it always happens when load is high, and results to low performance (blur is very costly) | 18:59 |
| sandy_locke | :/ | 18:59 |
| qwazix | we could have a pre-rendered blurred version of the background, and fade it in. It's a quite good approximation | 18:59 |
| qwazix | (or we could enable shaders for more powerful devices, like apple does) | 19:00 |
| sandy_locke | and what about a checker to see if ressources are sufficient to display the blur ? | 19:00 |
| sandy_locke | if not, fallback | 19:00 |
| Morpog | qwazix, I'm not sure if thats still the case with QtQuick2 | 19:00 |
| qwazix | we can always try, as I said, I like it very much | 19:01 |
| sandy_locke | thx :) | 19:01 |
| qwazix | but even on iPhone4 apple disabled it, and it's not that the iPhone4 is a laggard (~=N9 as far as CPU/GPU goes) | 19:01 |
| sandy_locke | I see | 19:02 |
| qwazix | N900 definitely struggles with it | 19:02 |
| sandy_locke | and how hard it is to check the state of the ressources ? | 19:02 |
| qwazix | So if we can make sure it works without, having an option for the user to enable is ok | 19:03 |
| qwazix | sandy_locke, well, we'll check fps | 19:03 |
| *** cristi has quit IRC | 19:03 | |
| qwazix | if it's <60 there's a problem | 19:03 |
| sandy_locke | yes, option is always good | 19:03 |
| qwazix | we should always aim for acceptable performance on ~3y/o hardware IMO, | 19:04 |
| Morpog | but thats N9, not N900 | 19:05 |
| qwazix | yep | 19:05 |
| qwazix | not that it means we should forget N900, but we can accept 30fps for that | 19:06 |
| qwazix | as it is the only 2009 hardware that will ever get nemo. Libhybris doesn't work with gingerbread | 19:06 |
| qwazix | (AFAIK) | 19:06 |
| sandy_locke | and trying the example page I made with CSS3, on an heavy loaded n9 and n900 to see how it goes ? | 19:07 |
| sandy_locke | with shaders it should be faster no ? | 19:07 |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has joined #nemomobile | 19:08 | |
| *** Pat_o has joined #nemomobile | 19:09 | |
| sandy_locke | it could allow testing before implementation or am I saying bs ? | 19:10 |
| sandy_locke | https://www.dropbox.com/s/zp86sm9un44u9nm/Normal_Dialog.png | 19:10 |
| sandy_locke | https://www.dropbox.com/s/pdj8hr4y4h9wed2/Normal_Dialog_Unobstrusive.png | 19:10 |
| sandy_locke | ^ updated with correct text, is it ok ? | 19:10 |
| qwazix | sandy_locke, I would be surprised if N9 browser supports CSS3 blur, but yeah you're right | 19:13 |
| *** ZogG_laptop has joined #nemomobile | 19:14 | |
| *** ZogG_laptop has joined #nemomobile | 19:14 | |
| qwazix | text is fine, yep | 19:14 |
| qwazix | Morpog did you see? http://play.qwazix.com/shared/lockscreen.png | 19:14 |
| *** cristi has joined #nemomobile | 19:15 | |
| qwazix | (in fact it should be the other way around, blur at bottom, but anyway) | 19:15 |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: ^^you're right, but maybe with firefox qml from coderus ? | 19:16 |
| sandy_locke | support html5 so css3 is not far ?! | 19:16 |
| qwazix | sandy_locke, that might work yeah (though the latest cutefox had very low framerate by itself for some reason) | 19:16 |
| sandy_locke | mmh | 19:16 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, about that link qwazix , I was wondering what it was referecing to ? | 19:17 |
| Morpog | qwazix, I like it, but lockscreen would be blured then always | 19:17 |
| qwazix | <qwazix> (in fact it should be the other way around, blur at bottom, but anyway) | 19:17 |
| sandy_locke | it's when swiping from top to bottom in lockscreen to go to main screen ? | 19:17 |
| qwazix | that was just a mistake due to being too stoned by the flu :P | 19:18 |
| Morpog | otherway around would feel kinda wrong, or not? | 19:18 |
| qwazix | It was the "sharpening glass" sledges was describing | 19:18 |
| sandy_locke | and what does it do ? | 19:18 |
| Morpog | it blure the lockscreen while unlocking | 19:19 |
| sandy_locke | I didn't see sledges description... | 19:19 |
| Morpog | revealing the homescreen | 19:19 |
| sandy_locke | mmh, that's what I thought | 19:19 |
| sandy_locke | I like it | 19:19 |
| qwazix | please refresh | 19:19 |
| Morpog | looks same, even with shift+refresh | 19:20 |
| sandy_locke | I like the slim line on the edge which give depth to the "glass" | 19:20 |
| sandy_locke | me too | 19:20 |
| sandy_locke | maybe server didn't get notice of the change... | 19:20 |
| Morpog | strange I cannot install qt5-qtgraphicaleffects in sailfishOS SDK | 19:21 |
| qwazix | yeah, sorry, please refresh again | 19:21 |
| Morpog | wanted to try out fastblur :( | 19:21 |
| *** amizraa has quit IRC | 19:23 | |
| sandy_locke | niiice :) | 19:23 |
| qwazix | anyway, as I said before, Icons or other things would fade in quickly, after the swipe is finished | 19:24 |
| sandy_locke | it just works I like :) | 19:24 |
| qwazix | or maybe start appearing lower in the page, sec | 19:24 |
| sandy_locke | or appear from far away like iOS 7 with folders ? | 19:24 |
| Morpog | you mean like harmattan? ;) | 19:25 |
| sandy_locke | getting in place while you swipe | 19:25 |
| sandy_locke | lol sorry :O | 19:25 |
| ZogG_laptop | \o | 19:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | o/ | 19:26 |
| sandy_locke | hi ZogG_laptop | 19:27 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog: but I was thinking more like, the icons are appart left and right and top bottom and come together while you swipe | 19:28 |
| ZogG_laptop | sandy_locke: hey | 19:28 |
| qwazix | http://play.qwazix.com/shared/lockscreen2.png | 19:28 |
| qwazix | http://play.qwazix.com/shared/lockscreen3.png | 19:28 |
| sandy_locke | not just the icons screen coming from far away | 19:28 |
| Morpog | lockscreen3 looks good | 19:29 |
| sandy_locke | I have cows in my garden ^^ | 19:31 |
| sandy_locke | yeah 3 is better | 19:31 |
| qwazix | moo! | 19:32 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, I let them, they'll eat the grass | 19:33 |
| sandy_locke | only hope they'll not leave it with a mess | 19:33 |
| qwazix | hehe, the nearest place where one could see a cow is at least 10km from my house... | 19:34 |
| qwazix | apartment really | 19:34 |
| sandy_locke | ^^ | 19:35 |
| sandy_locke | you're free of cow smell then ;) | 19:35 |
| sandy_locke | Me it's the other way around, the only place where one could see a human is at least 10kms from my house :P | 19:36 |
| sandy_locke | (almost kidding) | 19:36 |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: where should I put the dialogs UI when it's finished ? | 19:37 |
| sandy_locke | pull request on github ? | 19:38 |
| qwazix | yep | 19:38 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 19:38 |
| qwazix | fork the spec, create a new folder and then just PR | 19:38 |
| sandy_locke | will do :) | 19:38 |
| sandy_locke | well then, I'll be AFK tonight (watching movies and stuff) but may come once in a while to see what's going on | 19:39 |
| sandy_locke | see ya | 19:39 |
| sandy_locke | nice brainstorming btw :) | 19:40 |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 19:44 | |
| qwazix | I'm off too. Have a good night | 19:45 |
| *** sandy_locke has quit IRC | 19:50 | |
| *** itbaron has quit IRC | 20:35 | |
| *** bill_klpd has joined #nemomobile | 20:36 | |
| *** martyone has quit IRC | 20:37 | |
| *** kostaja has joined #nemomobile | 20:43 | |
| bill_klpd | hey guys what's up :D | 20:46 |
| *** amizraa has joined #nemomobile | 21:12 | |
| ZogG_laptop | they went to sleep | 21:23 |
| bill_klpd | hahaha everyone? :p | 21:23 |
| lexik | No. You can talk with me, but I don't know anything about Nemo ;) | 21:25 |
| bill_klpd | well we have something in common then :P | 21:26 |
| *** w00t has quit IRC | 21:33 | |
| *** special has quit IRC | 21:33 | |
| *** Sinbad has quit IRC | 21:33 | |
| *** trollixx has quit IRC | 21:33 | |
| *** trollixx has joined #nemomobile | 21:34 | |
| *** Sinbad has joined #nemomobile | 21:34 | |
| *** special has joined #nemomobile | 21:35 | |
| *** w00t has joined #nemomobile | 21:36 | |
| *** NIN101 has quit IRC | 21:48 | |
| *** louisdk has joined #nemomobile | 21:50 | |
| *** giucam has quit IRC | 21:52 | |
| *** cristi has quit IRC | 21:56 | |
| *** Pat_o has quit IRC | 21:57 | |
| *** louisdk has quit IRC | 21:58 | |
| *** bill_klpd has quit IRC | 22:02 | |
| *** nsuffys has quit IRC | 22:06 | |
| *** Sinbad has quit IRC | 22:08 | |
| *** sandy_locke has joined #nemomobile | 22:14 | |
| sledges | heylo | 22:17 |
| *** ZogG_laptop has quit IRC | 22:20 | |
| faenil | sledges, o/ | 22:20 |
| faenil | good night people | 22:20 |
| sledges | (i)gnite faenil | 22:21 |
| *** dmol has quit IRC | 22:33 | |
| *** faenil has quit IRC | 22:37 | |
| *** arcean has quit IRC | 22:52 | |
| *** DarkSim has quit IRC | 23:02 | |
| *** sandy_locke is now known as sandy_locke|away | 23:15 | |
| *** KaiRo_Mozilla has joined #nemomobile | 23:28 | |
| *** KaIRC has quit IRC | 23:31 | |
| *** sandy_locke|away is now known as sandy_locke | 23:33 | |
| *** sandy_locke has quit IRC | 23:37 | |
| *** blam_ has joined #nemomobile | 23:47 | |
| *** chriadam has joined #nemomobile | 23:47 | |
| *** Morpog_PC has joined #nemomobile | 23:51 | |
| *** Morpog has quit IRC | 23:51 | |
| *** zhost has quit IRC | 23:56 | |
| *** Morpog_PC has quit IRC | 23:57 | |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC | 23:58 | |
| *** amizraa has quit IRC | 23:59 | |
| *** Morpog_Mobile has joined #nemomobile | 23:59 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!
