| faenil | at least that's the QPA platform I've always used in env vars | 00:00 |
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| zbenjamin | /var/lib/environment/compositor/60-n9-n950-ui.conf:QT_QPA_PLATFORM=eglfs | 00:01 |
| special | k, then it's the one inside qt | 00:03 |
| faenil | which doesn't have any orientation handling from what you can see in the sources | 00:03 |
| special | it would be perfectly fine to just circumvent the platform plugin and QScreen and go directly to PageStackWindow, imo. | 00:04 |
| special | (this was my option 1 from above) | 00:04 |
| faenil | special, ok, let's use qml sensors for the homescreen then | 00:05 |
| faenil | and we're set | 00:05 |
| zbenjamin | not possible PageStackWindow uses screen directly | 00:05 |
| zbenjamin | state: screen.orientationString << | 00:05 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, well, we have pagestackwindow sources ;) and we're the upstream I think atm | 00:06 |
| faenil | so | 00:06 |
| faenil | state: useQmlSensors ? sensorsString : screen.orientationString | 00:06 |
| faenil | :D | 00:06 |
| zbenjamin | thats too easy ;) | 00:06 |
| faenil | then do it ;) I'm going to bed, lol :D | 00:06 |
| alterego | Heh | 00:08 |
| mikhas | man I do hate if state handling leaks to the QML layer … | 00:09 |
| faenil | go tell that to qtcomponents guys :) | 00:10 |
| mikhas | I did | 00:10 |
| zbenjamin | so why don't we uses the other plugin that does support rotation btw? | 00:11 |
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| special | I think it's a work in progress related to direct rendering support. | 00:13 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, it's been work in progress for a few months now | 00:16 |
| faenil | don't know the real status of the thing :) | 00:16 |
| zbenjamin | ah ok | 00:16 |
| faenil | srsly, I'm going xD | 00:17 |
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| zbenjamin | if i could use QScreenPrivate, i could do it without hacking qt-components | 00:24 |
| zbenjamin | hmpf the whole path to set this property is private ... | 00:27 |
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| zbenjamin | special: are properties defined in qml dynamic properties in the QObject | 01:01 |
| zbenjamin | ? | 01:01 |
| special | you can access them as if they are, at least | 01:02 |
| chriadam | zbenjamin: not quite. the object declaration in QML is also an implicit type declaration, if it contains new property declarations (including function properties). The QML engine builds up type information for the implicit type (in a structure called the QQmlPropertyCache in the source code, but it is better thought of as QQmlTypeMetaObject) | 01:25 |
| chriadam | so resolutions of the property later don't just hit the normal qobject dynamic property path - instead, we store internally the property and method offsets, in the property cache structure | 01:26 |
| chriadam | but, yes, eventually, they'll just be stored as dynamic QObject properties. | 01:27 |
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| chriadam | hrm, actually, that last bit might not be true - we hook the metaobject lookup stuff, and I don't remember which data structure they're actually stored in. QQmlVMEMetaObject perhaps. | 01:28 |
| chriadam | but yes, you can access those properties using the dynamic property accessors | 01:28 |
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| locusf | ah mikhas is gone :/ | 03:52 |
| locusf | I addressed the issues in the PR now, didn't even notice until now | 03:52 |
| locusf | pvuorela: do you guys want the landscape version too, couldn't test it a month ago but can now? | 03:53 |
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| zbenjamin | chriadam: ok thank you | 05:09 |
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| locusf | morning zbenjamin | 05:13 |
| zbenjamin | locusf: morning | 05:13 |
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| niqt | morning | 06:57 |
| fk_lx | niqt: morning | 07:03 |
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| faenil | morning | 08:12 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: guess what | 08:15 |
| faenil | u're dead | 08:15 |
| faenil | dead as humans can be | 08:16 |
| zbenjamin | erm not exactly ;) | 08:16 |
| faenil | sorry, quote from eminem's song :) | 08:16 |
| zbenjamin | desktop rotates ;) | 08:16 |
| zbenjamin | without qt-components hacking | 08:16 |
| faenil | no hacking at all, or no qtcomps hacking? :D | 08:17 |
| zbenjamin | QWindowSystemInterface::handleScreenOrientationChange(d->window->screen(),LipstickCompositor::instance()->screenOrientation()); | 08:17 |
| zbenjamin | ;) | 08:17 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, awesome | 08:19 |
| zbenjamin | now i just need to clean it up, next patch almost ready | 08:20 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RQ9_TKayu9s#t=237 | 08:21 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, great :) | 08:21 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: the StatusBar qml type has no orientation property but it is set from PageStackWindow. So the status messages are not rotated for now | 08:26 |
| faenil | why doesn't it rotate if psw does? | 08:27 |
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| zbenjamin | because StatusBar has no rotation handling code it seems | 08:28 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, let me understand, does scree.orientationString change now? | 08:29 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: yep, QScreen now works | 08:42 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, so I don't see why the rest shouldn't | 08:42 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: because StatusBar is a Rectangle and not a Item | 08:43 |
| zbenjamin | i gues | 08:43 |
| zbenjamin | s | 08:43 |
| faenil | wait a moment, we currently have no status bar | 08:44 |
| zbenjamin | ah wait a second ;) | 08:45 |
| zbenjamin | i meant the status messages | 08:45 |
| zbenjamin | not the statusBar | 08:45 |
| zbenjamin | i was looking in the wrong place | 08:45 |
| zbenjamin | the Charge Battery message for example | 08:45 |
| zbenjamin | or sdk mode in use, still landscape | 08:45 |
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| faenil | ahhhh | 08:46 |
| faenil | lol | 08:46 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: pull request done ;) | 08:56 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, fixed notifications? | 08:56 |
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| zbenjamin | nope thats another bug | 09:01 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, hint | 09:02 |
| faenil | https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/blob/master/src/notifications/notificationpreviewpresenter.cpp#L145 | 09:02 |
| zbenjamin | also the lockscreen swipe does sometimes not correctly work in portrait | 09:02 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: it still uses orientationAngleContextProperty | 09:06 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, it may receive oriientation changes but it does nothing with it | 09:10 |
| faenil | see https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/blob/qt5/src/qml/NotificationPreview.qml | 09:10 |
| zbenjamin | yep | 09:10 |
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| zbenjamin | currently reading it | 09:10 |
| faenil | ok | 09:10 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: when orientation changes, height and width should swap automatically right? | 09:10 |
| faenil | look at the logic inside mouseare | 09:11 |
| faenil | you also have to rotate the content, swapping width/height will just change its size | 09:11 |
| zbenjamin | currently looking at the lockscreen .. it seems to me the swipe stops after it reaches landscape height | 09:12 |
| faenil | yeah it's all placeholder code, nothing tested, nothing supposed to work in portrait ;) | 09:14 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: do you know if angle should be 0 for portrait or for landscape orientation | 09:32 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, sorry was helping a friend of mine fix his bicycle | 11:02 |
| zbenjamin | no prob | 11:02 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, it depends on fb orientation | 11:03 |
| faenil | on n950/n9 angle 0 is landscape | 11:03 |
| faenil | on other devices it could be portrait | 11:03 |
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| zbenjamin | so landscape is the primaryorientation? | 11:03 |
| faenil | yes, on n9/n950 | 11:03 |
| faenil | but not on other devices | 11:03 |
| zbenjamin | i see , is there a way to find out in qml? | 11:05 |
| zbenjamin | i mean what the primaryOrientation should be# | 11:05 |
| faenil | well, you could check screen.width and screen.height | 11:06 |
| zbenjamin | ah they don't change on rotation? | 11:07 |
| faenil | anyway fyi, I was told that in future the compositor will handle that, so we'll always get portrait orientation on client side as default one | 11:07 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, nope, shouldn't | 11:07 |
| faenil | (afaik) | 11:07 |
| faenil | in qtquick2 you can use Screen.primaryOrientation | 11:07 |
| zbenjamin | wayland clients and our compisitor have different primary orientations btw | 11:07 |
| faenil | ah right we're already in qq2, lol | 11:08 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, you can import QtQuick.Window 2.0 | 11:08 |
| faenil | and use Screen.primaryOrientation to know that | 11:08 |
| zbenjamin | isn't Screen.primaryOrientation just a enum value? | 11:08 |
| sledges | faenil: then we need to adjust mask on https://github.com/nemomobile/fingerterm/pull/11/files too (if w00t confirms PrimaryOrientation as redundant) | 11:08 |
| zbenjamin | ah nice | 11:08 |
| faenil | sledges, primartyOrientation should just be used when accessing primaryOrientation as I see it | 11:09 |
| faenil | it doesn't have a meaning anywhere else from what I could see | 11:09 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, yes it is, so? | 11:09 |
| faenil | isn't that what you want? | 11:09 |
| sledges | the mask is to tell what orientations we want+can provide | 11:10 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: doesn'T matter ;) docs already told me what i want to know | 11:10 |
| faenil | sledges, yes, but Qt::PrimaryOrientation isn't an orientation, I think it's just used when asking for the orientation value | 11:10 |
| faenil | you ask what's the Qt::PrimaryOrientation? and it returns Qt::LandscapeOrientation | 11:11 |
| sledges | which is [inverted] portraid and/or landscape | 11:11 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, there is angleBetween | 11:11 |
| faenil | that's what you should use | 11:11 |
| sledges | faenil: yes | 11:11 |
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| faenil | angleBetween(Screen.primaryOrientation, currentOrientation) | 11:11 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, ^ | 11:12 |
| zbenjamin | ah ok | 11:12 |
| faenil | sledges, also, Qt::PrimaryOrientation is value 0, so that confirms the fact that we won't need it, as it won't even change the mask, so there's no chance it is considered in the setOrientationUpdateMask ;) | 11:13 |
| sledges | lol yes | 11:13 |
| faenil | (iirc) | 11:13 |
| sledges | ;p | 11:13 |
| faenil | I learned all this while coding components ofc :D | 11:13 |
| faenil | bbl guys, will be back in 2-3h | 11:15 |
| sledges | cya | 11:15 |
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| NeeDforKill | hi all | 11:27 |
| NeeDforKill | Virtual stream for call volume handling ? | 11:27 |
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| locusf | ? | 11:51 |
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| NeeDforKill | i look updates on github | 11:57 |
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| sandy_locke | qwazix, you here ? | 13:02 |
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| KhertanAtwork | Hello ! | 14:33 |
| KhertanAtwork | thp, https://github.com/khertan/pyotherside/commit/cc924d35ceef407dabadfee7f1c96f611a8f566b <<< that s a wip, but in the good way i need to write a real path finder in the qresources, be able to import py[c|o] will be interesting too | 14:35 |
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| KhertanAtwork | not sure if i should put it in the pyotherside module and import it in QPython at __init__ time | 14:36 |
| KhertanAtwork | or create an other module | 14:36 |
| fk_lx | hello all | 14:36 |
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| locusf | hey fk_lx | 14:41 |
| fk_lx | locusf: hi | 14:43 |
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| ArcherN9 | been a month since I set up my nemo image on vbox | 16:32 |
| ArcherN9 | Now I don't remember anything >_< | 16:33 |
| ArcherN9 | how to set up.. how to what. .. ARGH! | 16:33 |
| sledges | ArcherN9: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Wayland_Nemo_VM_Image | 16:40 |
| ArcherN9 | On that only.. | 16:40 |
| ArcherN9 | helped remind me stuff, | 16:40 |
| ArcherN9 | Continuing setup of image on vbox. | 16:41 |
| ArcherN9 | ran into /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup error :P | 16:41 |
| ArcherN9 | fixing it now. | 16:41 |
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| sledges | :) | 17:00 |
| sledges | practice makes perfect ;) | 17:00 |
| ArcherN9 | @sledges Oh yes! | 17:07 |
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| juiceme | qwazix, ping | 18:11 |
| juiceme | qwazix, re ubibot instructions... yes I know the README sucks big time :) | 18:11 |
| juiceme | should do something about it really but... there's never time to tidy up documentatation | 18:12 |
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| sledges | juiceme: i just loaded ubiboot kernel into memory, and got all partitions exported \o/ | 18:23 |
| sledges | saved my day :) | 18:23 |
| sledges | (thanks to Jonni for the hint) | 18:23 |
| sledges | backed up all partitions, now time for complete reflash | 18:23 |
| sledges | :) | 18:23 |
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| Morpog_PC | qwazix, that texteditor icon looks weird | 18:37 |
| juiceme | sledges, :) | 18:38 |
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| qwazix | juiceme, I usually don't fret about big readme files, it's just I didn't really _need_ to do it, as I had N950 already set up for nemo | 18:46 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, maybe you don't have the font? | 18:46 |
| qwazix | it's OCR_B if I remember correctly | 18:46 |
| Morpog_PC | that could be well :) | 18:46 |
| Morpog_PC | that one? http://www.font-zone.com/download.php?fid=1556 | 18:47 |
| juiceme | qwazix, yes i gathered so much... was just reading backlog of the channel and it caught my eye :) | 18:47 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, I did a screenshot icon and pinquerry icon, you can review it in backlog | 18:48 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, not absolutely sure let me check | 18:48 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, yeah I like them | 18:48 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, do you have the link handy (backlog is on work PC) | 18:49 |
| Morpog_PC | yes, it was that fontz, looks no more weird now :) | 18:49 |
| Morpog_PC | http://www.font-zone.com/download.php?fid=1556 | 18:49 |
| Morpog_PC | oops | 18:49 |
| Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/nemomobile-waylanddwpdh.png | 18:50 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/page/fonts#ocrb | 18:50 |
| qwazix | this is the right font | 18:50 |
| qwazix | the other one didn't look rounded enough | 18:50 |
| qwazix | thanks | 18:51 |
| Morpog_PC | ok | 18:52 |
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| Morpog_PC | is tehre a reason why only icons in SVG are used by homescreen? | 19:09 |
| Morpog_PC | tried to set a PNG, but got only a blank icon | 19:10 |
| sandy_locke | hi guys | 19:10 |
| sandy_locke | qwazix: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rxwq50c97gga6ma/Glacier%20Demo.apptaster | 19:10 |
| sandy_locke | just a first draft, nothing amazing here | 19:10 |
| sandy_locke | but wanna know if it can be interesting to go further | 19:11 |
| Morpog_PC | how to play that on non iOS? | 19:11 |
| sandy_locke | if anyone want to try it, you need apptaster for iphone (or ipad, but still iphone 3,5" screen) | 19:12 |
| sandy_locke | no way Morpog_PC , sorry | 19:12 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, shall I push the separated icons to nemoux again or to nemo-artwork? | 19:12 |
| sandy_locke | the best I can do is export a pdf with all the screens and connexions, which is not very interesting | 19:13 |
| Morpog_PC | ok then nevermind :) | 19:13 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_PC: nemoux ? because I use this repo to sync with github | 19:13 |
| Morpog_PC | sandy_locke, that one? https://github.com/qwazix/nemoux | 19:14 |
| sandy_locke | where is the nemo-artwork repo btw ? | 19:14 |
| sandy_locke | yes Morpog_PC | 19:14 |
| Morpog_PC | https://github.com/Morpog/nemo-artwork | 19:14 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, push to nemo-artwork better I think, nemoux is a mess | 19:14 |
| Morpog_PC | it's realtively new | 19:14 |
| sandy_locke | I'll sync nemo-artwork then, thx Morpog_PC | 19:15 |
| Morpog_PC | should be pulled into nemomobile sooner or later | 19:15 |
| qwazix | sandy_locke, I forgot the iPod at work, I'll see it tomorrow | 19:16 |
| sandy_locke | np qwazix | 19:16 |
| Morpog_PC | sandy_locke, our components stuff is here (I think you know that already) https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec | 19:16 |
| sandy_locke | yeah, I'm in sync with it already | 19:16 |
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| Morpog_PC | pushed icons to nemo-artwork | 19:22 |
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| sandy_locke | thx Morpog_PC | 19:26 |
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| Morpog_PC | gallery icon looks strange on device, seems to be a SVG render error there. | 19:46 |
| Morpog_PC | pushed dialer icon fix | 19:47 |
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| qwazix | Morpog_PC, terminal "greater than" icon also has wrong font | 21:31 |
| qwazix | (also ocr-b) | 21:32 |
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| Morpog_PC | qwazix, I remade the the flower pic in galler in vector, not 100% same, but not that bad | 21:40 |
| Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/icon-l-gallery2zwsj9.png | 21:41 |
| Morpog_PC | only SVG icons seem to work atm at launcher unfortunately | 21:44 |
| Morpog_PC | pushed terminal icon fix | 21:45 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, can't spot the difference | 21:46 |
| qwazix | I'm not sure "unfortunately" is a good word :P | 21:47 |
| Morpog_PC | original looks like that: http://abload.de/img/icon-l-galleryjxr2h.png | 21:47 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, the only noticeable difference is the gradient of the flower, could be a bit more orange and centered at the nucleus | 21:48 |
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| Morpog_PC | qwazix, better? http://abload.de/img/icon-l-gallery2uystz.png | 21:55 |
| qwazix | yep, much better. I'm nitpicking now, but I have one more minor suggestion: move the left cloud away from the petals, to increase the visibility of the flower's shape. | 21:58 |
| qwazix | just a nudge to the left | 21:58 |
| zbenjamin | lol now my notification windows are turned upside down in portrait | 21:58 |
| qwazix | zbenjamin, patent it! | 21:59 |
| zbenjamin | yeah and make lots of money!!!! | 21:59 |
| qwazix | "A method to ease reading of notifications while taking the phone slightly out of pocket" | 21:59 |
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| zbenjamin | hehe | 22:00 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, http://www.abload.de/img/icon-l-gallery2azp9j.png | 22:01 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, yep, perfect | 22:02 |
| qwazix | we should test the homescreen on device and see if svg really has an impact on performance | 22:03 |
| qwazix | because if not, svg icons are much more versatile | 22:03 |
| Morpog_PC | I'm sure it has | 22:03 |
| Morpog_PC | also as you can see it can have rendering errors | 22:04 |
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| qwazix | I'm not on the other hand. Symbian has been using svg for icons since 100Mhz cpu's | 22:05 |
| special | SVG is slow to render, if you're rendering it every time you need it at a given size. If you cache it, not too awful | 22:06 |
| Morpog_PC | mmmh, I'm not sure if symbian is a good example for fluid and smooth rendering | 22:06 |
| special | it's much slower compared to PNG | 22:06 |
| special | but even rendering every icon on a homescreen would take a very significant amount of time | 22:06 |
| qwazix | special, :nod: | 22:06 |
| Morpog_PC | why does nemo homescreen then do it that way? :D | 22:06 |
| qwazix | we'll have to convert then, sadly | 22:06 |
| special | one curious idea someone had at some point was to package SVGs and convert them at build time or even install time | 22:07 |
| special | so you can get them at exactly the size you need for a given configuration | 22:07 |
| Morpog_PC | and that never worked out why? | 22:08 |
| Morpog_PC | I'm interested as we want to go the same way :D | 22:09 |
| sledges | yes, i remember we talked about this | 22:14 |
| sledges | PoC is needed, to check installation times | 22:14 |
| sledges | also, no PNGs on homescreen might be due to theme provider, I'll take a look when free up | 22:15 |
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| Morpog_PC | great! | 22:16 |
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| Morpog_PC | when you're at it, change icon size to 100x100 from 80x80 please | 22:16 |
| sledges | it's separate projects, but will have in mind | 22:17 |
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| sledges | wonder how much we will go for looks of col2 row2: http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=344 | 22:18 |
| qwazix | pretty much... | 22:20 |
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| Morpog_PC | Are those categories needed? | 22:20 |
| qwazix | I'm still contemplating a nice way to have shadows in the homescreen without having to have two iconsets | 22:20 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, the idea is that categories are user configured | 22:20 |
| Morpog_PC | aah, so folder like | 22:21 |
| Morpog_PC | shadows for icons? Not sure if that plays well with rest of flatness | 22:21 |
| qwazix | not sure either | 22:22 |
| qwazix | but that screen does not look out-of-place | 22:22 |
| qwazix | and the slight shadow does help distinguish the icons from the background if that is not black | 22:22 |
| Morpog_PC | yeah, that shadows are almost non existent there | 22:23 |
| Morpog_PC | harmattan solutions was just another image behind | 22:23 |
| qwazix | I think we should try with a standard circular shadow like that, under each icon without the sticking-out parts, to see if it looks okay | 22:23 |
| qwazix | exactly | 22:24 |
| Morpog_PC | or doe some magic with imagemagic | 22:24 |
| qwazix | some magick | 22:25 |
| qwazix | :P | 22:25 |
| Morpog_PC | yep ;) | 22:25 |
| qwazix | back to the categories thing: many people love widgets, but we don't want to put a seperate desktop for them as it breaks magic number 3 | 22:25 |
| qwazix | so i thought, let's combine the app grid with a widget screen (i.e. allow adding widgets to the app grid somewhat like WP tiles) | 22:26 |
| Morpog_PC | aslong as we have some event feed style thing I think widgets are not needed | 22:26 |
| qwazix | some things are not fit for the event screen, they are just showing a status | 22:27 |
| Morpog_PC | would be small widgets then | 22:27 |
| qwazix | (weather, battery) | 22:27 |
| qwazix | and widgets allow for more personalization too | 22:27 |
| sledges | sailfish killed two birds with one stone by turning live tiles into widgets | 22:28 |
| qwazix | anyway, those category lines could well be a kind of widget. Put it wherever you want to organize your homescreen as you like | 22:28 |
| qwazix | sledges, after having used BB10 for a couple of months, I started to hate live covers | 22:28 |
| qwazix | it breaks the intuitive "go back to where I was, visually, without thinking" workflow | 22:29 |
| sledges | we'll see what we say after using sailfish for a month or two :D | 22:29 |
| qwazix | yeah of course | 22:29 |
| sledges | could feel similar | 22:29 |
| qwazix | it's a matter of coloring and arrangement. BB10 covers are so different than the underlying app that you lose it when you minimize it. You have to read the labels | 22:30 |
| sledges | (think wp) | 22:30 |
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| qwazix | wp though has static positions for the widgets, while covers rearrange themselves, and double as multitasking, where you expect to see the screen you just minimized | 22:39 |
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| qwazix | night! | 22:58 |
| sledges | nite, | 22:58 |
| sledges | thanks qwazix | 22:58 |
| fk_lx | hi | 22:58 |
| fk_lx | :-P | 22:58 |
| sledges | :D hi | 22:58 |
| sledges | by | 22:58 |
| fk_lx | some people start to work at this hour | 22:58 |
| sledges | :) | 22:58 |
| sledges | :D | 22:58 |
| sledges | or hobbying around ;P | 22:58 |
| zbenjamin | sledges: hey you could merge my patches ;) | 23:06 |
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