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Stskeeps | sledges: you're adding a UX dependency to a MW component | 05:42 |
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locusf | oh right | 06:39 |
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locusf | sledges: ve got a prepaid in my n9 | 06:53 |
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sledges | Stskeeps: thanks for spotting that; someone told me to put opensans into ux, as for me it looked good for both places | 09:33 |
sledges | locusf: ?? | 09:33 |
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Stskeeps | sledges: well, the requires: now breaks things that don't use :ux ;) | 09:34 |
sledges | which is qt-components | 09:34 |
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sledges | locusf: can we avoid that? | 09:36 |
sledges | https://github.com/nemomobile/qt-components/pull/11 | 09:37 |
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sledges | as Nokia Pure Text was not in the Requires: | 09:41 |
Stskeeps | can't you add it in patterns perhaps? | 09:41 |
sledges | Stskeeps: but this is also not good then: https://github.com/locusf/qt-components/blob/dcfffa863429b7a35b6afe663a176385e0cf8f67/src/meego/plugin.cpp#L146 | 09:41 |
sledges | would break a system where opensans is not in | 09:41 |
sledges | hmmm | 09:42 |
sledges | but no-one uses nokia pure text anyway | 09:42 |
sledges | so that line should be of no danger | 09:42 |
sledges | :D | 09:42 |
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locusf | lol | 09:46 |
sledges | ok, danger zone eliminated :) | 09:48 |
sledges | opensans is in ux pattern now | 09:59 |
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sledges | thanks Stskeeps | 10:31 |
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sledges | (opensans will be pulled in by colorful home anyway, but we can imagine a system with an alternative homescreen still using glacier apps ;) | 10:32 |
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locusf | sledges: prepaid for testing calls | 11:14 |
sledges | ah | 11:15 |
sledges | a prepaid sim, nice :) | 11:15 |
sledges | so have you tested them? :) | 11:15 |
sledges | iirc, the sound from caller comes out through loudspeaker regardless | 11:16 |
sledges | and there will be tinkering involved with libofono plugins (i remember that case still in x11 land, but ofono already used qt5) | 11:16 |
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sledges | i might find a solution in old logs, whoever gets there first, ping me | 11:57 |
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locusf | yes noticed the same thing | 12:12 |
locusf | when testing | 12:12 |
sledges | ok locusf: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2013-06-14.log.html#t2013-06-14T17:00:15 | 12:14 |
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sledges | what does `zypper se voicecall-qt5-` say? | 12:15 |
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locusf | not at n9 atm | 12:20 |
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sledges | i think this fixed it: `zypper in voicecall-qt5-plugin-ofono` | 12:27 |
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sandy_locke | qwazix, http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=626 | 13:17 |
faenil | o/ hello peeps | 13:18 |
sledges | great research sandy_locke | 13:19 |
sledges | \o faenil | 13:19 |
sandy_locke | thx, sledges :) | 13:19 |
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sledges | sandy_locke: you can mention this in ;) http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2013-10-14.log.html#t2013-10-14T10:32:56 | 13:20 |
sandy_locke | \o/ faenil | 13:20 |
NeeDforKill | looks nice | 13:20 |
sandy_locke | sledges, what do you mean ? | 13:22 |
sledges | The keyboard in the community-built LunaCE for the TouchPad has a cursor-controlling "joystick area" | 13:22 |
sledges | https://twitter.com/qole/status/389282154703630336 | 13:22 |
sandy_locke | yes, it's in my post too | 13:23 |
sledges | ah ok, missed that :") | 13:23 |
sandy_locke | Was using it last year and I must say they did a great job | 13:23 |
sandy_locke | it just work and feel right | 13:24 |
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Hurrian | the boot progress spinner on Grog looks great! | 13:25 |
sandy_locke | Hurrian, link ? | 13:27 |
sandy_locke | wait, found it | 13:29 |
sandy_locke | yeah, like it too | 13:29 |
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NeeDforKill | Progress meatspinner | 13:30 |
NeeDforKill | :D | 13:30 |
locusf | sandy_locke: I was about to comment that I made a proof of concept in QML last weekend | 13:31 |
locusf | lemme share a screenshot in a moment | 13:32 |
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locusf | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/286182/nipple-trackpoint.png | 13:35 |
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faenil | sandy_locke, nice article :) | 13:46 |
faenil | sandy_locke, but that way, how can you trigger the alternative letters popup for the letter G ? | 13:46 |
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faenil | (as it seems you activate the stick by pressing on g) | 13:47 |
sandy_locke | faenil, no^^maybe the pic is misleading: the finger is below to not hide the stick. The stick is always visible between T Y & G | 13:49 |
faenil | ah ok, so similar to what locusf has done, ok ;) | 13:50 |
sandy_locke | locusf, do you have somewhere I can grab the deb ? | 13:50 |
locusf | sandy_locke: not the deb but rpm | 13:50 |
faenil | I have to say it's not easy to trigger it, it's pretty small, you have to take care to press exactly on it | 13:50 |
sandy_locke | ah it works on nemo, not harmattan ? | 13:50 |
locusf | sandy_locke: it only works in nemo | 13:50 |
locusf | sandy_locke: yes | 13:50 |
sandy_locke | ok, the link for the rpm will do ;) | 13:51 |
locusf | you can test on nemo? | 13:51 |
sandy_locke | faenil, yeah I think so too | 13:51 |
sandy_locke | we need to see how it behave in real situation | 13:51 |
sandy_locke | locusf, got a vm | 13:51 |
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locusf | sandy_locke: ah | 13:51 |
locusf | hmm I need a x86 build then, one moment | 13:52 |
sandy_locke | ok thx :) | 13:52 |
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sandy_locke | faenil, all the work will be in implementing it well, with the most accuracy possible ;) | 13:54 |
faenil | yeah,we'll see... | 13:54 |
locusf | sandy_locke: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/286182/maliit-plugins-0.99.0-1.i386.rpm | 13:55 |
sandy_locke | thx, locusf | 13:55 |
sandy_locke | how can I put it inside the vm ? | 13:55 |
locusf | well its just as easy as zypper in --force https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/286182/maliit-plugins-0.99.0-1.i386.rpm | 13:55 |
locusf | and then DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/100000/dbus/user_bus_socket systemctl --user restart maliit-server.service | 13:56 |
sandy_locke | locusf, can I do it through ssh ? | 13:58 |
locusf | sandy_locke: yes, both as root | 13:58 |
sandy_locke | how do I ssh to nemo vm already ? ^^ | 13:58 |
locusf | hmm | 13:59 |
locusf | faenil: ^ | 13:59 |
faenil | wiki | 13:59 |
faenil | you have to use port forwarding on vbox | 13:59 |
faenil | and connect using | 13:59 |
faenil | ssh -o port=<port number> nemo@localhost | 13:59 |
faenil | sandy_locke, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#SSH_Port_Forwarding_.28optional.29 | 14:00 |
locusf | sandy_locke: do you have the VM? | 14:00 |
sandy_locke | locusf, yes | 14:02 |
locusf | ok good | 14:02 |
sandy_locke | when entering : DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/100000/dbus/user_bus_socket systemctl --user restart maliit-server.service | 14:02 |
sandy_locke | I get: Failed to get D-Bus connection: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. | 14:02 |
sandy_locke | I have to enter it inside fingerterm ? | 14:02 |
locusf | no | 14:03 |
locusf | thats some other error now | 14:03 |
locusf | just don't know what that means | 14:03 |
faenil | are you root? | 14:03 |
sandy_locke | faenil, yes | 14:03 |
faenil | try without | 14:03 |
sandy_locke | ok | 14:03 |
locusf | yep, su nemo | 14:03 |
sandy_locke | faenil, thx that's it | 14:03 |
faenil | np | 14:04 |
sandy_locke | locusf, the app should be on the main screen ? | 14:05 |
sandy_locke | I can't find it | 14:05 |
locusf | sandy_locke: its not an app, just launch Messages for instance and try to create a new message | 14:05 |
sandy_locke | mmh | 14:05 |
locusf | so the keyboard just pops from the bottom | 14:06 |
locusf | it will be distorted | 14:06 |
sandy_locke | locusf, yeah it works :) | 14:07 |
sandy_locke | but the keyboard implementation in the vm is terrible! | 14:07 |
sandy_locke | the keyboard is mostly outside the screen and text fields just breaks completely | 14:08 |
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locusf | yes | 14:09 |
sandy_locke | I use the notes app, and I just have a single row to see the text ^^ | 14:09 |
sandy_locke | locusf, got a nemo build for n9 ? | 14:09 |
locusf | sandy_locke: sure | 14:09 |
sandy_locke | I will install it | 14:09 |
locusf | sandy_locke: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/l6bl3uiv85pw2kc/nemo-n950-rnd-20131310.tar.bz2 | 14:10 |
sandy_locke | locusf, and a how to ;) | 14:10 |
sandy_locke | thx btw, you rule | 14:10 |
locusf | sandy_locke: np :) | 14:10 |
locusf | sandy_locke: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Persistent_Single_Boot_by_Flashing_the_Dual_Boot | 14:10 |
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locusf | sandy_locke: the instructions are not for the faint of heart | 14:11 |
locusf | sandy_locke: so be careful | 14:11 |
sandy_locke | locusf, don't worry ;) | 14:13 |
sandy_locke | btw, you know if I can use it with BackupMenu http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86957 ? | 14:13 |
sandy_locke | it's a multiboot with 3 boot options | 14:14 |
sandy_locke | I already use 2 | 14:14 |
sandy_locke | and the nitroid boot is still vacant | 14:14 |
locusf | sandy_locke: I have no idea | 14:14 |
locusf | first time seeing the app | 14:15 |
locusf | only got my n9 for nemo stuff, haven't touched harmattan much | 14:15 |
sandy_locke | ok :/ | 14:15 |
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sandy_locke | locusf, there's no way w/o flashing the device ? | 14:21 |
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sandy_locke | would like to keep my harmattan install | 14:21 |
locusf | sandy_locke: you can keep the harmattan installation of course, I have it installed too | 14:22 |
locusf | but you won't be able to boot to it | 14:22 |
locusf | at least I can't | 14:22 |
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locusf | sandy_locke: how does BackupMenu work in practise? | 14:23 |
sandy_locke | locusf, it uses kernel images in /boot | 14:23 |
locusf | ok | 14:24 |
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locusf | sandy_locke: how and where does one unpack the rootfs of eg. nitdroid? | 14:28 |
locusf | do you guys sledges faenil Stskeeps have any ideas? | 14:28 |
sandy_locke | locusf, tar xjvf /home/user/MyDocs/nitdroid_n9_ics_alpha4.tar.bz2 -C /home/nitdroid | 14:29 |
sledges | you need to repartition for nemo | 14:29 |
locusf | yes | 14:29 |
sledges | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Single_Boot_by_Loading_The_Kernel_.28Not_recommended.29 | 14:29 |
sledges | this is least intrusive | 14:29 |
sledges | i use it | 14:29 |
sledges | but whenever I need to go back to nemo, I need laptop and a flasher (normally i do :)) | 14:30 |
sledges | after every reboot | 14:30 |
sledges | otherwise it boots back to harmattan | 14:30 |
locusf | mine always boots to nemo | 14:30 |
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sandy_locke | sledges, where is there mention of partitioning in your link ? | 14:31 |
sledges | the whole link needs to be followed | 14:31 |
sledges | first boot of moslo will repartition | 14:31 |
sledges | in this way you will have nemo inside your n9, it will be easy to add it to BootMenu or UbiBoot | 14:32 |
sledges | just by adding kernel, should suffice | 14:33 |
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sandy_locke | mmh, ok sledges | 14:35 |
sandy_locke | so installing moslo won't mess up with bootmenu ? | 14:35 |
sledges | moslo will run in volatile memory | 14:36 |
sledges | nothing gets installed | 14:36 |
sledges | only repartitioning takes place | 14:36 |
sledges | that's why I like it - least intrusive :) | 14:36 |
sledges | repartitioning will leave the existing partitions intact | 14:37 |
sledges | and just smartly inject a new one, by shrinking your MyDocs partition - ensure you have enough space there (moslo will check its space anyway) | 14:37 |
sandy_locke | sledges, so I do the wget, the rpm2cpio, the curl and the sudo flasher ? | 14:38 |
sledges | yes | 14:38 |
sandy_locke | ok | 14:38 |
sandy_locke | the sudo flasher from the n9 ?? | 14:38 |
sledges | no, from linux host | 14:39 |
sandy_locke | or all this must be done from the computer | 14:39 |
sandy_locke | ok | 14:39 |
sandy_locke | all ? | 14:39 |
sandy_locke | I assume | 14:39 |
sledges | take my words back - not MyDocs partition, but another one, should have enough free space (as I said, moslo will check it for you) - in most cases free space is sufficient | 14:40 |
sandy_locke | ok | 14:40 |
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sandy_locke | sledges, let me remember: to sudo flasher, do I need the n9 to be shutdown ? | 14:43 |
stephg | yep | 14:44 |
stephg | launch flasher, plug it in | 14:44 |
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sandy_locke | mmh, battery 17%, will wait then ;) | 14:45 |
sledges | ;) | 14:46 |
sandy_locke | thx sledges, I may come back to you to install the files and the kernel | 14:46 |
sandy_locke | is that ok? | 14:46 |
sledges | i'll be around | 14:47 |
sandy_locke | thx stephg | 14:47 |
sandy_locke | thx sledges | 14:47 |
sledges | have fun! :) | 14:47 |
sandy_locke | locusf, the file you gave me say "n900" it works on n9 too ? | 14:47 |
sandy_locke | sledges, thx ;) | 14:47 |
locusf | sandy_locke: its n950+n9 image | 14:47 |
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sandy_locke | locusf, ok | 14:48 |
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locusf | https://github.com/mer-packages/qtwayland/pull/34 <- according to w00t, this should fix wayland alpha issues in eg. maliit | 15:33 |
locusf | when this becomes merged I'll update colorful-home and remove the shader | 15:33 |
sledges | thanx, hope for best | 15:33 |
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faenil | back | 15:45 |
faenil | still tidying up my room :D | 15:45 |
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sandy_locke | sledges, got an error while partitioning | 15:49 |
sandy_locke | it says that I can telnet to the device | 15:49 |
sledges | sandy_locke: great! | 15:49 |
sandy_locke | although telnet says connection refused | 15:49 |
sledges | did you setup usbnetworking between phone and host? | 15:49 |
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sandy_locke | sledges, you misunderstood: the partitioning went bad ;) | 15:50 |
sledges | sandy_locke: no i didn't ;) | 15:50 |
sandy_locke | ah | 15:50 |
sandy_locke | ^^ | 15:50 |
sledges | basically it means, welcome to our world :D | 15:50 |
sandy_locke | arf, I thought you it meant : "it's the normal behaviour" ^^ | 15:51 |
sledges | in our world it is normal :) | 15:51 |
sandy_locke | usb net to phone is usually setup | 15:51 |
sledges | can you ping your phone? | 15:51 |
sandy_locke | but here it's unlinked | 15:52 |
sandy_locke | 60 bytes from ip: Communication prohibited by filter | 15:53 |
sandy_locke | when ping | 15:53 |
sledges | what does your `ifconfig usb0` say on host? | 15:54 |
sandy_locke | usb0 doesn't exist | 15:54 |
sledges | `ifconfig -a` ? | 15:55 |
sandy_locke | no usbX | 15:56 |
sledges | lsusb | 15:56 |
sledges | ? | 15:57 |
sledges | should say 0421:0518 Nokia Mobile Phones N9 Phone | 15:57 |
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zbenjamin | hehe i also was shocked when my paritioning failed ;) | 15:57 |
sledges | or 0525:a4ab Netchip Technology, Inc. | 15:58 |
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sandy_locke | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EhMRNUGE | 15:59 |
sledges | crikey | 15:59 |
sledges | :D | 15:59 |
sledges | where are you? :D | 15:59 |
sandy_locke | lsusb doesn't work on mac | 16:00 |
sledges | you are on mac? | 16:01 |
sandy_locke | yes | 16:01 |
sledges | ok so try this: | 16:01 |
sledges | ifconfig en3 192.168.2.1 | 16:01 |
sledges | ping 192.168.2.15 | 16:01 |
sandy_locke | ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCDIFADDR): permission denied | 16:02 |
sledges | sudo | 16:02 |
sledges | (or simply as root) | 16:03 |
sandy_locke | and ping , see above | 16:03 |
sledges | first command needs to succeed first | 16:03 |
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sledges | do you have flasher for mac? | 16:04 |
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sandy_locke | ok ping work :) | 16:04 |
sledges | (i mean, how did you get to start repartition?) | 16:04 |
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sledges | now telnet | 16:04 |
sandy_locke | yes, flasher on mac | 16:04 |
sledges | ok | 16:04 |
sledges | telnet 192.168.2.15 | 16:04 |
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sandy_locke | telnet 192.168.2.15 --> refused | 16:04 |
sledges | pff | 16:04 |
sandy_locke | Unable to connect to remote host | 16:05 |
sandy_locke | ^^ | 16:05 |
sledges | does ping still work? | 16:05 |
sledges | (could've been reset) | 16:05 |
zbenjamin | get linux ;) | 16:05 |
sledges | +1 | 16:05 |
sledges | :D | 16:05 |
sandy_locke | do you think it's safe to reboot the device ? | 16:05 |
sandy_locke | I have linux in VM | 16:05 |
sledges | so, can you still ping? | 16:05 |
sandy_locke | for work I prefer Mac, the apps for my work are more user friendly ;) | 16:06 |
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sandy_locke | yes, sledges | 16:06 |
sledges | :{ | 16:06 |
sledges | what's on screen? | 16:06 |
sandy_locke | but do you think it's safe to reboot the device ? | 16:06 |
sledges | Re-partitioning failed! You might be in trouble! | 16:06 |
sledges | ? | 16:06 |
sledges | i need to know more to be able to tell if it's safe | 16:06 |
sandy_locke | green text says I can telnet to debug | 16:06 |
sledges | what else does green text say? | 16:07 |
sandy_locke | the MOSLO header text with a FATAL: Re-partitioning failed error | 16:07 |
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sledges | does it say "You might be in trouble!" ? | 16:08 |
sandy_locke | yes, it says so ^^ | 16:08 |
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sledges | show the command that you ping the device with | 16:08 |
zbenjamin | sledges: maybe he does have a fw? or forwarding isn't enabled? | 16:08 |
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sandy_locke | ping 192.168.2.15 | 16:08 |
sandy_locke | no firewall at all | 16:08 |
sledges | nice, never seen such behaviour | 16:08 |
* zbenjamin has no idea about mac's | 16:08 | |
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sledges | telnet should just work | 16:09 |
zbenjamin | what happens when you trace the route? ... | 16:09 |
sledges | good point | 16:09 |
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sledges | traceroute 192.168.2.15 | 16:09 |
sledges | but ping does come through though (ICMP?) | 16:09 |
stephg | there will be no route to trace | 16:10 |
sandy_locke | traceroute to 192.168.2.15 (192.168.2.15), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets | 16:10 |
sandy_locke | I'll try to reboot, what do you say ? | 16:11 |
sledges | wait | 16:11 |
sledges | reboot is last resort | 16:11 |
sledges | nmap 192.168.2.15 | 16:11 |
sandy_locke | worst is I have to reflash openmode | 16:11 |
zbenjamin | ok i have to run, good luck sandy_locke | 16:12 |
sandy_locke | I'm installing nmap | 16:12 |
sledges | good | 16:12 |
sandy_locke | zbenjamin, thx :) | 16:12 |
stephg | you said ping still works? or not | 16:12 |
sledges | yes | 16:12 |
stephg | ping it and arp -an shows a sensible mac address | 16:12 |
stephg | and on a sensible interface | 16:12 |
sandy_locke | compile in process ;) | 16:13 |
sledges | sandy_locke: what he said ^ | 16:13 |
sledges | arp -an | 16:14 |
sledges | and also | 16:14 |
sledges | ping 192.168.2.222 | 16:14 |
sandy_locke | arp -an --> ? (192.168.2.15) at d2:0:1a:80:16:0 on en3 ifscope permanent [ethernet] | 16:14 |
sledges | ok so it's there | 16:14 |
stephg | good | 16:14 |
sandy_locke | nmap --> All 1000 scanned ports on 192.168.2.15 are closed (500) or filtered (500) | 16:15 |
sledges | right, telnet failed | 16:15 |
sledges | :/ | 16:15 |
sandy_locke | ping 222 --> Request timeout for icmp_seq 52 | 16:15 |
sledges | ok | 16:15 |
sledges | bear with me | 16:16 |
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sandy_locke | I bear, I bear ;) | 16:16 |
sledges | rrrrrrrrrr | 16:16 |
* sledges (bearing) | 16:16 | |
stephg | oh dear | 16:16 |
stephg | :) | 16:16 |
sandy_locke | :P | 16:16 |
sledges | deer? | 16:16 |
sandy_locke | oh, what will it sound like ? | 16:17 |
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sandy_locke | so I think there are no options left, are they ? | 16:17 |
sledges | to bear with me - last option | 16:18 |
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sandy_locke | rrrrrrrr | 16:18 |
* sandy_locke bearing | 16:18 | |
sledges | sounds good | 16:18 |
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sledges | right | 16:19 |
sledges | time to pull the plug | 16:19 |
sledges | literally | 16:19 |
sandy_locke | oooook | 16:19 |
sledges | and replug again | 16:19 |
sledges | without rebooting | 16:19 |
sledges | (say what's on screen) | 16:19 |
* sandy_locke nokia's saying "booting in harmattant in 5s" | 16:19 | |
sledges | i think in 15seconds it will boot to harmattan | 16:19 |
sledges | :D | 16:19 |
sledges | keep updating ;) | 16:20 |
sandy_locke | multi boot menu still here | 16:20 |
sandy_locke | booting into meego | 16:20 |
sandy_locke | nokia logo shows up | 16:20 |
sandy_locke | still glowing | 16:20 |
sandy_locke | ripple effect | 16:20 |
sandy_locke | ring the bell | 16:20 |
sandy_locke | vibration and asks for pin code | 16:21 |
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sandy_locke | entering pin | 16:21 |
sledges | what a reminiscence! | 16:21 |
sledges | :) | 16:21 |
sandy_locke | rolling whell | 16:21 |
sandy_locke | boot successful | 16:21 |
sledges | ok you're good, no reflash needed | 16:21 |
sandy_locke | people we have a go | 16:21 |
sandy_locke | gogogog | 16:21 |
sledges | let's try again with moslo | 16:21 |
sandy_locke | o | 16:21 |
stephg | reminiscence? I'm still using mine every day :) | 16:21 |
sandy_locke | ok | 16:21 |
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sledges | stephg: me too, just never rebooted :D | 16:21 |
sledges | (kidding) | 16:21 |
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sandy_locke | how can I check if the partitioning did actually work ? | 16:22 |
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sledges | terminal | 16:22 |
sandy_locke | or a log file or something | 16:22 |
sledges | devel-su | 16:22 |
sandy_locke | ok, I'll ssh with dev user | 16:22 |
sledges | fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 -p | 16:22 |
sledges | pastebin please ooi | 16:23 |
sandy_locke | sledges, invalid "-p" | 16:24 |
sledges | fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 -l | 16:24 |
sledges | always mix 'em | 16:24 |
sandy_locke | using -l | 16:24 |
sandy_locke | pastebin slow | 16:25 |
sledges | i 'read' you :D | 16:25 |
sandy_locke | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=qTYUjbhz | 16:27 |
locusf | sounds like a long night for you guys | 16:27 |
sandy_locke | ^^ | 16:28 |
sledges | sandy_locke: it shrunk the partition | 16:28 |
sledges | but did not create a new one | 16:28 |
sledges | there's space for it | 16:28 |
sandy_locke | the win95 partition must be backup menu | 16:28 |
sledges | let's do it from MeeGo terminal FTW \o/ ! | 16:28 |
sledges | nope | 16:28 |
sledges | it's MyDocs | 16:28 |
sandy_locke | ok | 16:28 |
sledges | backup menu can be anywere | 16:28 |
sledges | so | 16:28 |
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sledges | fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 | 16:28 |
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sandy_locke | sledges, yes, I got a prompt | 16:29 |
sledges | n | 16:29 |
sandy_locke | e or p | 16:30 |
sandy_locke | ? | 16:30 |
sledges | p | 16:30 |
sandy_locke | Selected partition 4 | 16:30 |
sledges | 208513 | 16:30 |
sledges | ;) | 16:30 |
sledges | first sector | 16:30 |
sledges | last sector: | 16:31 |
sledges | 288512 | 16:31 |
sandy_locke | prompt again | 16:31 |
sandy_locke | get a fourth partition now :) | 16:32 |
sledges | hmm your mydocs looks altered | 16:32 |
sandy_locke | sledges, do I exit fdisk ? | 16:32 |
sledges | nope | 16:32 |
sandy_locke | yes I saw that | 16:32 |
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sledges | now it's up to you | 16:32 |
sledges | we can leave as it is | 16:33 |
sandy_locke | or ? | 16:33 |
sledges | (with 2.5G for nemo) | 16:33 |
sledges | or we can create 4G for nemo | 16:33 |
sledges | using that extra space that MyDocs shrunk | 16:33 |
sandy_locke | mmh, 4G for nemo would be future proof | 16:33 |
sledges | yes :D | 16:33 |
sandy_locke | but right now not so usuful, is it ? | 16:33 |
sledges | and you can download videos and music :D | 16:33 |
sledges | true | 16:34 |
sandy_locke | ;) | 16:34 |
sledges | and maybe you will want to claim your MyDocs space back | 16:34 |
sledges | (somehow) | 16:34 |
sledges | (by recreating it most probably, you should check if everything's fine with your MyDocs partition btw) | 16:34 |
sledges | did you backup your stuff btw? | 16:34 |
sandy_locke | maybe, but n9 is not my main phone anymore, and anyway I don't put videos into it, and few musics | 16:34 |
sledges | as i dont§ know when your mydocs got shrunk | 16:34 |
sledges | ok | 16:35 |
sledges | well | 16:35 |
sledges | let's just leave it as is now | 16:35 |
sledges | type | 16:35 |
sledges | w | 16:35 |
sandy_locke | hum, how can I check my mydoc partition? | 16:35 |
sledges | ls /home/user/MyDocs | 16:35 |
sledges | or just open Gallery, to see if your photos are still there | 16:35 |
stephg | (if it's mounted) | 16:35 |
sandy_locke | arg: fdisk: WARNING: rereading partition table failed, kernel still uses old table: Device or resource busy | 16:36 |
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sledges | sandy_locke: that's fine | 16:36 |
sandy_locke | ok | 16:36 |
sledges | out of habit | 16:36 |
sandy_locke | ouf! | 16:36 |
sledges | type | 16:36 |
sledges | sync | 16:36 |
sandy_locke | sync done | 16:36 |
sandy_locke | ls mydocs ok | 16:36 |
sledges | power off n9 | 16:36 |
sledges | unplug cable | 16:36 |
sledges | run flasher | 16:36 |
sledges | plug cable | 16:36 |
sandy_locke | wait, I'll check first when was my last backup | 16:36 |
sledges | sure sure ;D | 16:37 |
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sandy_locke | 10th of august | 16:37 |
sandy_locke | mmh, I think I could do 1 more ;) | 16:37 |
sledges | yup | 16:37 |
sandy_locke | I'll just reboot into backup menu and backup once more | 16:37 |
sledges | ok, good test for BM too ;) | 16:38 |
sledges | ah but you said that still works so ok | 16:38 |
sandy_locke | sledges, yes | 16:38 |
sledges | (it can be that BM shrunk your mydocs..) | 16:38 |
sledges | noidea | 16:38 |
sandy_locke | shit, I missed the boot menu | 16:38 |
sandy_locke | ah no ^^ | 16:39 |
sandy_locke | sledges, I think it was BM for mydocs, yes | 16:39 |
sledges | but what is it sneakily doing in an unpartitioned space..... | 16:39 |
sandy_locke | backing up rootfs | 16:40 |
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sandy_locke | sledges, mmh, defacing me to the nsa maybe | 16:41 |
sledges | :D | 16:41 |
sandy_locke | still backing up ... | 16:42 |
sandy_locke | ... | 16:42 |
sandy_locke | ... | 16:42 |
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sandy_locke | sledges, backup of mydocs failed | 16:43 |
sandy_locke | something fishy here | 16:44 |
sledges | nemo | 16:44 |
sledges | ;) | 16:44 |
sandy_locke | why ? | 16:44 |
sledges | maybe MOSLO went brutal and shrunk mydocs as well | 16:44 |
sledges | and/or maybÅe you've gone out of free space on mydocs (if backups land there -- quite likely) | 16:45 |
sandy_locke | mmh, right | 16:45 |
sandy_locke | lack of space | 16:45 |
sandy_locke | must be it | 16:45 |
sandy_locke | nevermind, I don't really need what's in mydoc anyway | 16:45 |
sledges | and it's backed up august ;) | 16:46 |
sandy_locke | yup | 16:46 |
sandy_locke | I did a thing or two since then though | 16:46 |
sandy_locke | like setting up card/caldav for my server | 16:46 |
sandy_locke | but it's piece of cake anyway ;) | 16:46 |
sledges | well | 16:46 |
sledges | the worst is in the past | 16:47 |
sandy_locke | ok so I shutdown | 16:47 |
sandy_locke | ? | 16:47 |
sledges | you won't lose the data ;) | 16:47 |
sledges | as we already repartitioned everything | 16:47 |
sandy_locke | yup | 16:47 |
sandy_locke | :) | 16:47 |
sledges | yes poweroff etc | 16:48 |
sandy_locke | so, do I sudo flasher ? | 16:48 |
sledges | yes | 16:48 |
sandy_locke | ok | 16:48 |
stephg | how much power do you still have :) | 16:48 |
sandy_locke | MOSLO will not try to partition again ? | 16:48 |
sledges | nope | 16:48 |
sandy_locke | 97% | 16:48 |
stephg | that's better! | 16:49 |
sandy_locke | 95% now maybe ;) | 16:49 |
sledges | abort abort | 16:49 |
sledges | :D | 16:49 |
sandy_locke | stephg yup ^^ | 16:49 |
sledges | (joking) | 16:49 |
sandy_locke | ;) | 16:49 |
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sandy_locke | sledges, and you discovered the joys of closed kernel & OS ;) | 16:51 |
sledges | yes, tried to stay away :)) | 16:51 |
sandy_locke | ok: Rootfs of AlternateOS now exported via USB | 16:51 |
sledges | \o/ | 16:51 |
sledges | ok | 16:52 |
sandy_locke | FTW | 16:52 |
sledges | now i forgot something ;P | 16:52 |
sledges | is to format the new partition | 16:52 |
sandy_locke | arf | 16:52 |
sledges | nothing appears now i think | 16:52 |
sledges | on your mac | 16:52 |
sandy_locke | yes, I was wondering | 16:52 |
sledges | so we'll format it from mac | 16:52 |
sledges | (or you can telnet in instead ;)) | 16:52 |
sledges | (to be more sure and do everything the linux way :D) | 16:52 |
sandy_locke | on my mac it said "unknown usb partition, do you want to format ?", said "no, b**ch" | 16:53 |
sledges | lol | 16:53 |
sledges | you can, if you have ext3 formatter ;) | 16:53 |
sandy_locke | ok telnet it is | 16:53 |
sledges | good | 16:53 |
sandy_locke | mmh, no ext3 formater on my mac | 16:53 |
sledges | repeat the procedure sailor ;) | 16:53 |
sledges | sandy_locke: don't rush - you might have mkfs.ext3 in your mac's terminal ;) | 16:54 |
sledges | but let's forget about it and hope this time telnet is up... | 16:54 |
sandy_locke | telnet wont work | 16:54 |
sandy_locke | again... | 16:54 |
sledges | ping works? | 16:54 |
sledges | nmap says all closed? | 16:54 |
sledges | (you have to `ifconfig en....` again don't forget) | 16:54 |
sandy_locke | nope same as last time | 16:54 |
stephg | sigh | 16:55 |
* sledges lets out series of curses | 16:55 | |
sledges | :) | 16:55 |
sledges | ok | 16:55 |
sledges | check your mac terminal (root) for mkfs.ext3 | 16:55 |
stephg | and if it's not there install e2fsprogs | 16:55 |
sledges | yes | 16:55 |
stephg | which should be in macports or fink or something | 16:56 |
stephg | (been a long time since I messed with a mac) | 16:56 |
sledges | s/with/up | 16:56 |
sledges | ;D | 16:56 |
sandy_locke | nope | 16:56 |
sandy_locke | ping ok, but telnet out | 16:56 |
sledges | @'[#*$§& :D | 16:56 |
sandy_locke | ^^ | 16:56 |
locusf | is there a usb0 for macs? | 16:56 |
sledges | locusf: is called en* (en3 sandy_locke case) | 16:56 |
sledges | EtherNet | 16:57 |
sledges | :D | 16:57 |
locusf | sledges: okay | 16:57 |
sandy_locke | no mkfs.* | 16:57 |
sledges | sandy_locke: what stephg said ^ | 16:57 |
sandy_locke | I'll try e2fsprog | 16:57 |
sledges | oko | 16:57 |
sledges | k | 16:57 |
sandy_locke | yup installing :) | 16:57 |
sledges | good memory stephg :) | 16:58 |
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sandy_locke | making gettext | 16:59 |
sledges | since when mac is compiling like some gentoo :) | 17:00 |
sandy_locke | since "homebrew" ;) | 17:00 |
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sledges | O_o | 17:00 |
sledges | :) | 17:00 |
sandy_locke | http://brew.sh/ | 17:00 |
sledges | ah | 17:00 |
sledges | nice | 17:01 |
sandy_locke | yup, like it too | 17:01 |
sandy_locke | it helps sticking with Mac's ;) | 17:01 |
sledges | :D | 17:01 |
sandy_locke | mmh, installed but still no mkfs.ext3 | 17:02 |
sledges | any other mkfs.<tab> | 17:02 |
sledges | ? | 17:02 |
sandy_locke | nope | 17:03 |
stephg | mkfs.ext2 -j will make an ext3 | 17:03 |
sandy_locke | no mkfs.ext2 in commands | 17:04 |
stephg | also mke2fs | 17:04 |
sandy_locke | I've got a mkextunpack though | 17:04 |
sledges | newfs ? | 17:05 |
sledges | (check its manpage) | 17:05 |
sandy_locke | newfs_exfat newfs_hfs newfs_msdos newfs_udf | 17:06 |
sledges | tough :( | 17:06 |
stephg | well they're all the native ones | 17:06 |
stephg | e2fsprogs should have it though | 17:06 |
stephg | I mean, that's what it is | 17:06 |
sandy_locke | updatedb in process | 17:07 |
locusf | maybe $PATH didn't get updated | 17:07 |
stephg | yeah stuff like that | 17:07 |
stephg | or it's hiding somewhere in /opt or something | 17:07 |
stephg | right I gotta run | 17:07 |
stephg | good luck sandy_locke | 17:07 |
sledges | we're near, thanks for input stephg | 17:07 |
sandy_locke | thx stephg, nice evening :) | 17:07 |
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sandy_locke | ok got it | 17:08 |
sandy_locke | hidden in some obscure directory ;) | 17:08 |
sandy_locke | sledges, so what should I do now ? | 17:08 |
sledges | yes! | 17:10 |
sledges | boot back to MeeGo Harmattan :D | 17:10 |
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sledges | lol | 17:10 |
sledges | it _has_ mkfs.* tools | 17:10 |
sledges | i just hate someone who did not put /sbin/ into path | 17:10 |
sledges | (this has been carried forward to Mer/Nemo projects as well :DD) | 17:10 |
sandy_locke | can I boot into ssh mode (with backupmenu) ? | 17:10 |
sledges | just boot to MeeGo | 17:11 |
sandy_locke | ok | 17:11 |
sledges | is just one command to issue ;) | 17:11 |
sledges | (c'mon we partitioned your N9's NAND Flash memory from the device itself :D) | 17:11 |
sandy_locke | rebooting then | 17:11 |
sledges | yes | 17:11 |
sandy_locke | rippling | 17:12 |
sandy_locke | ringin and we're in | 17:12 |
sledges | devel-su terminal | 17:13 |
sandy_locke | sledges, me prefer ssh ? | 17:13 |
sledges | if you please | 17:13 |
sandy_locke | :) | 17:13 |
sandy_locke | ok sledges, I'm in | 17:14 |
sledges | na | 17:14 |
sledges | fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 -l | 17:14 |
sandy_locke | let's the mkfs feast begin | 17:14 |
sledges | just to make sure mmcblk0p4 starts at 208513 | 17:14 |
sandy_locke | it start alright | 17:15 |
sandy_locke | ;) | 17:15 |
sledges | perfect | 17:15 |
sledges | and ends | 17:15 |
sledges | 288512 | 17:15 |
sledges | then | 17:15 |
sandy_locke | at 288512 | 17:15 |
sandy_locke | yes | 17:15 |
sledges | /sbin/mkfs.ext3 /dev/mmcblk0p4 -L nemo | 17:16 |
sledges | ;) | 17:16 |
sandy_locke | writing superblocks | 17:16 |
sledges | yay | 17:16 |
sandy_locke | done :) | 17:17 |
sledges | niice | 17:17 |
sledges | sync | 17:17 |
sandy_locke | sync ok | 17:17 |
sledges | (good habit to get into, even when unneeded :D) | 17:17 |
sledges | reboot into moslo again | 17:17 |
sandy_locke | what does it do ? | 17:17 |
sandy_locke | ok | 17:17 |
sledges | (cable out, power off, sudo flasher, cable in) | 17:17 |
sledges | it flushes all the buffers of block devices (hard drives, memory cards, flash memory) | 17:18 |
sledges | so no data loss involved | 17:18 |
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sledges | you'll need this when you'll have nemo rootfs unpacked into AltOS partition | 17:18 |
sandy_locke | ok | 17:18 |
sledges | sheesh i hope that's gonna mount under MacOS | 17:18 |
sledges | :{ | 17:18 |
sandy_locke | no, not mounting | 17:19 |
sandy_locke | but I can launch a linux vm | 17:19 |
sledges | if not, forwarding that USB device to linux vm will be last resort | 17:19 |
sledges | ;) | 17:19 |
sledges | there you go | 17:19 |
sandy_locke | the altos is exported | 17:19 |
sandy_locke | ok launching vm then | 17:19 |
sledges | erm | 17:19 |
sledges | can you not try | 17:19 |
sledges | ? | 17:19 |
sledges | first | 17:19 |
sledges | under macos | 17:19 |
sandy_locke | yes | 17:19 |
sledges | dmesg | 17:19 |
sandy_locke | Am listening | 17:20 |
sledges | see what node is exported | 17:20 |
sledges | then try by hand | 17:20 |
sledges | root shell: | 17:20 |
sledges | mount /dev/<your_altos_dev> /mnt | 17:20 |
sandy_locke | do you have a grep for dmesg ? | 17:21 |
sandy_locke | list is loooong | 17:21 |
sledges | it should be at the bottom | 17:21 |
sledges | USB connected bla bla bla /dev/xxxxx | 17:21 |
faenil | time to read backlog to learn :) | 17:21 |
sledges | :) | 17:21 |
sandy_locke | ah: hfs: mounted Nokia N9 on device disk2s0s2 | 17:22 |
sandy_locke | is that it ? | 17:22 |
sledges | yes | 17:23 |
sledges | mount /dev/disk2s0s2 /mnt | 17:23 |
sandy_locke | mount: You must specify a filesystem type with -t. | 17:23 |
sledges | mount.<tab> | 17:23 |
sandy_locke | mount mount_cd9660 mount_exfat mount_hfs mount_ntfs mount_webdav | 17:24 |
sandy_locke | mount_acfs mount_cddafs mount_fdesc mount_msdos mount_smbfs | 17:24 |
sandy_locke | mount_afp mount_devfs mount_ftp mount_nfs mount_udf | 17:24 |
locusf | seriously | 17:24 |
sledges | no good | 17:24 |
sledges | yeap | 17:24 |
sandy_locke | (ouf, no spam kicking) | 17:24 |
locusf | remind me to never get a mac | 17:25 |
sledges | :) | 17:25 |
sandy_locke | locusf, why ? not enough options ? | 17:25 |
locusf | sandy_locke: yeah, things like that are basic to linux | 17:25 |
sandy_locke | yeah, I agree ^^ | 17:25 |
sledges | sandy_locke: fuse<tab> | 17:26 |
sandy_locke | on mac you have to add options yourself, even basic one ^^ | 17:26 |
sandy_locke | no fuse installed | 17:26 |
sledges | ok | 17:26 |
sledges | two options | 17:26 |
sledges | 1. ensure linux vm sees the N9 usb device | 17:26 |
locusf | https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/eula_mac/ | 17:26 |
sledges | 2. install fuse and mount n9 under mac | 17:27 |
sandy_locke | will try fuse. locusf, your option will come last before the vm | 17:27 |
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sledges | right | 17:27 |
sledges | why not vm? | 17:27 |
sledges | ;D | 17:27 |
sledges | i'd feel at home :P | 17:28 |
locusf | hmm that doesn't help, my link that is | 17:28 |
sledges | so | 17:29 |
sledges | fuse tutorial: | 17:29 |
sledges | http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57457850-263/how-to-manage-ext2-ext3-disks-in-os-x/ | 17:29 |
sandy_locke | sledges, Macfuse asks if I want to install the compatibility layer ? | 17:29 |
sledges | no idea :D | 17:29 |
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sandy_locke | Installs a compatibility layer for MacFUSE file systems that have not been ported to OSXFUSE, yet. This will remove MacFUSE, if it is installed. | 17:29 |
sandy_locke | ok, I decline | 17:30 |
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sledges | Macfuse asks if....This will remove MacFUSE, if it is installed. | 17:30 |
sledges | :D | 17:30 |
locusf | lol wtf | 17:30 |
sandy_locke | yeah, odd | 17:30 |
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sandy_locke | ok installed | 17:31 |
sandy_locke | but what did it install ? | 17:31 |
sledges | now 2. Install the Ext2 FUSE module. | 17:31 |
sledges | (from my link) | 17:31 |
locusf | Paragon has a native ext driver for OS X ; however, it will cost about $40 for a license <- LOL | 17:32 |
sledges | sandy_locke: i think i now understand those compatibility layer voes: http://blog.applegrew.com/2011/12/access-ext3ext2-file-system-on-mac-osx-lion-10-7/ | 17:32 |
sledges | oyu need OSXFuse | 17:32 |
sledges | i think that'ß what you're installing | 17:32 |
sledges | and so you need that layer ;p | 17:32 |
sledges | oh man this is crazy: PS. You will be able to read the disks but not write to it. As of now write option is not reliable. | 17:33 |
locusf | facepalm | 17:33 |
sandy_locke | double facepalm ^^ | 17:33 |
sledges | (the article is of 2011) | 17:33 |
qwazix | o/ | 17:33 |
sledges | \o | 17:33 |
qwazix | having fun with abused UNIX? | 17:34 |
sledges | :D | 17:34 |
sledges | if that's abused, then android is a molestation | 17:34 |
sledges | :D | 17:34 |
sandy_locke | hi qwazix | 17:34 |
qwazix | lol | 17:34 |
locusf | hey qwazix | 17:34 |
sandy_locke | seen the new blog post ? | 17:34 |
qwazix | hi sandy_locke, about to read your article | 17:34 |
qwazix | hi locusf | 17:34 |
sandy_locke | qwazix: :) | 17:34 |
sandy_locke | sledges, ok installed | 17:35 |
sandy_locke | with comp layer | 17:35 |
sledges | and the module? | 17:35 |
sandy_locke | yes | 17:35 |
sandy_locke | too | 17:35 |
qwazix | why not unpack inside harmattan? | 17:35 |
sledges | sothen | 17:35 |
sledges | qwazix: why not indeed :D | 17:35 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, nevermind, we're enhancing my mac setup ;) | 17:36 |
locusf | good stuff qwazix | 17:36 |
sledges | i'll rephrase | 17:36 |
sledges | we're enhancing Nemo's infra MacOS support :D | 17:36 |
sandy_locke | ;) | 17:36 |
sledges | sandy_locke: fuse-ext2 /dev/disk2s0s2 /Volumes/mountpoint | 17:36 |
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qwazix | why not create a nemo installer script for harmattan instead? | 17:36 |
sledges | you don't want to reboot to harmattan and also d/l the rootfs tarball there | 17:37 |
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sledges | and with single nemo boot, harmattan is no more btw | 17:37 |
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qwazix | it seems that all steps can be done in harmattan (and if harmattan has flasher maybe even moslo install) | 17:37 |
qwazix | just sayin' | 17:38 |
sandy_locke | let's not deviate, we're almost there | 17:38 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, personnaly I prefer ssh over handeld command lines | 17:38 |
sandy_locke | and with a script, you have to trust it to do what you want, which may not be what you want | 17:39 |
qwazix | sandy_locke, ofc, but I was thinking something like "install this deb"-> click the homescreen icon -> nemo installed! | 17:39 |
sandy_locke | well, bad grammar here | 17:39 |
qwazix | sandy_locke, :nod: | 17:39 |
sledges | i like the idea of install-in-place nemo ;) but two drawbacks - tarball NAND scrubbing and single boot might stand in a way | 17:40 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, you'd have to make a script for all the possibilities, which is more of a hassle at this point of nemo, isn't it ? | 17:40 |
sandy_locke | so sledges, what do I do from here, sensei ? | 17:41 |
sledges | did it mount? | 17:41 |
sandy_locke | no | 17:41 |
sledges | e :)) | 17:41 |
sandy_locke | 2 secs | 17:41 |
sledges | how do you know (it's empty ;)) | 17:41 |
sledges | `mount` will tell | 17:41 |
sledges | or even df | 17:41 |
sandy_locke | nothing relevant in df | 17:42 |
sledges | so what did the fuse command spit? | 17:43 |
sledges | is the mountpoint valid? | 17:43 |
sandy_locke | fuse-ext2: Failed to access '/dev/disk2s0s2' [main (../../fuse-ext2/fuse-ext2.c:334)] | 17:44 |
sledges | erm | 17:44 |
sledges | root? | 17:44 |
sandy_locke | both | 17:44 |
sledges | ls /dev/disk<tab> | 17:44 |
sledges | ls /dev/disk2<tab> | 17:44 |
sandy_locke | moslo-0.0.13.2-1.5.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx.armv7hl.rpm | 17:45 |
sandy_locke | usr/ | 17:45 |
qwazix | sandy_locke, true that, but maybe it would bring some more contributors on board, you know, easier curve (not yet, but when we are back to the stability of X11 version) | 17:46 |
sledges | qwazix: we need to know why repartitioning is failing, and for not only one reasong | 17:47 |
sledges | sandy_locke: i think it's only one disk2s0s2 under there then, yup? | 17:47 |
sandy_locke | sledges, ok mounted but every other single mounted disks have been unmounted wildly | 17:47 |
sledges | ? | 17:47 |
sledges | :D | 17:47 |
sledges | nice | 17:47 |
sledges | so | 17:48 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, I second that | 17:48 |
sandy_locke | we must find a way to render the task more easy | 17:48 |
sledges | what does it say? `df /Volumes/mountpoint` ? | 17:48 |
sandy_locke | ouch, only a lost+found in /Volume | 17:49 |
sledges | sandy_locke: very good | 17:49 |
sledges | df -h /Volumes | 17:49 |
sledges | df -h /Volume | 17:49 |
sledges | (whichever) | 17:49 |
sandy_locke | sledges, ok I know | 17:49 |
sledges | to ensure we're there | 17:49 |
sandy_locke | I made a baaad mistake ! | 17:49 |
sledges | rigjht | 17:49 |
sledges | i know | 17:49 |
sledges | what you made :D | 17:49 |
sledges | `umount /Volumes` | 17:49 |
sandy_locke | I mounted directly into /Volumes | 17:49 |
sledges | could work | 17:49 |
sledges | ;) | 17:49 |
sandy_locke | lol | 17:49 |
* sledges is looking for a trout | 17:49 | |
sledges | :) | 17:50 |
qwazix | sandy_locke, could you add this http://rimhelpblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/q5cursor2.png to your post too when you find some time, for completeness sake. | 17:50 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, ofc :) | 17:50 |
sandy_locke | I save the file and will do once we finish thos | 17:50 |
sandy_locke | *this | 17:50 |
sandy_locke | sledges, it did work | 17:51 |
qwazix | tapping the circle goes up, down, left, right, dragging it moves it just like harmattan/ios | 17:51 |
sledges | ok then | 17:51 |
sledges | mkdir /Volumes/nemo ;) | 17:51 |
sandy_locke | now I also got an extra Volumes disk on my desktop :P | 17:51 |
sledges | xixi | 17:51 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, ok noted | 17:51 |
sandy_locke | ok sledges, done | 17:52 |
sandy_locke | nemo folder on my desk | 17:52 |
sandy_locke | nemo disk* | 17:52 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, how do you like the blog post ? | 17:53 |
sledges | sandy_locke: confirm it's that one | 17:53 |
sledges | with df | 17:53 |
sandy_locke | did I omit sth besides Z10 ? | 17:53 |
sledges | afterwards do: | 17:53 |
qwazix | Very nice and complete | 17:53 |
sledges | cd /Volumes/nemo | 17:53 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, thx | 17:53 |
qwazix | Not that I know of (I wonder how WP handles that though) | 17:53 |
qwazix | I'll know tomorrow | 17:54 |
sledges | sudo tar --numeric-owner -xf <path_to>/nemo-n950-rnd-20131310.tar.bz2 | 17:54 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, I had a WP, but don't remember | 17:54 |
sandy_locke | sledges, unpacking :) | 17:55 |
sandy_locke | sledges, Failed to create dir 'usr'Can't create 'usr/share/doc/libxml2-2.8.0/html/parse3.c' | 17:55 |
sandy_locke | it was full of this error | 17:56 |
sandy_locke | I think I do not have the rights | 17:56 |
sandy_locke | well, I know, it's read-only ^^ | 17:56 |
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sandy_locke | yup, checked and r/o | 17:57 |
sledges | sigh | 17:57 |
sledges | nothing changed since 2 years | 17:57 |
* sledges bump! | 17:57 | |
sledges | linux vm ;P | 17:57 |
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sandy_locke | sledges, wait, I found a way ;) | 17:58 |
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sandy_locke | http://www.thewireframecommunity.com/node/174 | 17:58 |
sledges | ok | 18:01 |
sledges | afk for a bit | 18:01 |
sandy_locke | sledges, ok | 18:01 |
sandy_locke | ping me when back | 18:01 |
sandy_locke | I reboot, be back in 10secs | 18:02 |
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sandy_locke | anybody knows what tar: qtn_file_apply_to_path(./var/log/faillog): Operation not permitted mean ? | 18:05 |
sandy_locke | the file has been tared, but I get this error (and same for lot of other files too) | 18:06 |
sandy_locke | maybe the attribute are not transfered ? | 18:07 |
qwazix | sandy_locke, are you trying to untar the image? | 18:08 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, yes | 18:08 |
sledges | is anything untarred? | 18:08 |
sledges | :) | 18:08 |
sandy_locke | I think I'll do it from vm | 18:08 |
qwazix | try untarring directly to N9, I failed to do it to my pc also | 18:08 |
sandy_locke | yes sledges | 18:08 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, I am. I untar directly inside the nemo partition from my comp | 18:08 |
qwazix | hmm... then I don't know | 18:09 |
sandy_locke | sledges, it untar but with those errors | 18:09 |
sledges | are permissoons still sane? | 18:09 |
sledges | ls -l | 18:09 |
qwazix | tar on mac is not exactly the same as on linux if i am not mistaken | 18:09 |
sandy_locke | wait, I deleted everything lol | 18:09 |
sledges | and /home (root and 100000 respectively) | 18:09 |
sledges | / and /home | 18:10 |
sandy_locke | no, I had root wheel 4096 | 18:10 |
sandy_locke | for everything | 18:10 |
sledges | no good | 18:10 |
sledges | linix | 18:10 |
sledges | linux | 18:10 |
sledges | :D | 18:10 |
sandy_locke | that's what I assumed | 18:10 |
sandy_locke | on go for the vm then ;) | 18:10 |
sledges | im driving home now | 18:10 |
sledges | back in 1hr | 18:10 |
sledges | you got all pieces of puzzle now sandy_locke | 18:11 |
sledges | i dont know how to expose usb dev to linux vm on mac so | 18:11 |
sandy_locke | sledges, wait a sec | 18:11 |
sledges | guys around will help | 18:11 |
sandy_locke | for the kernel ? | 18:11 |
sandy_locke | ok, then | 18:11 |
sandy_locke | see you later sledges | 18:12 |
sledges | fpr vbox or vmware or whiceber you use | 18:12 |
sledges | also | 18:12 |
sledges | reboot back to harmattan | 18:12 |
sledges | prpblem solved cc qwazix :D | 18:12 |
sandy_locke | ok | 18:13 |
sledges | ie. unpack in harmattan | 18:13 |
sledges | mount /dev/mmcblk0p4 /mnt | 18:14 |
sledges | therr | 18:14 |
sledges | uploadbtarball | 18:14 |
sledges | abd fire away | 18:14 |
sledges | *and | 18:14 |
sledges | ok im off now | 18:14 |
sandy_locke | ;) ok | 18:14 |
sandy_locke | thx | 18:14 |
sandy_locke | be safe on the road ;) | 18:14 |
qwazix | (though I presume that tar will require an additional -j in harmattan) | 18:14 |
sledges | cheers, good luck | 18:14 |
sledges | qwazix: no autodetect by ext or header? | 18:15 |
qwazix | I think busybox tar doesn't (at least on fremantle) | 18:15 |
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sandy_locke | qwazix, nevermind, I'm taring from a linux vm and it seems to go smoothly | 18:21 |
sandy_locke | although the tricky part will be to have it recognized by my multiboot loader | 18:21 |
qwazix | I started trying to install ubiboot on my N9 but halfway through the instructions I got bored. | 18:22 |
sandy_locke | lol | 18:22 |
qwazix | so I put nemo on the N950 which supports dualboot oob | 18:22 |
sandy_locke | yeah, 950 is definitely a good dev device | 18:22 |
qwazix | (I wanted to be able to see it on the amoled screen too, one day I'll try again) | 18:23 |
sandy_locke | ah, yeah, I miss the amoled screen | 18:25 |
sandy_locke | shitty resolution, but this low power screen is _the_ killer feature | 18:27 |
qwazix | but as I have mentioned again, lpm does not depend on amoled | 18:27 |
Stskeeps | did you guys see the peek glance? | 18:28 |
qwazix | my best guess is that it has to do with refresh rate | 18:28 |
sandy_locke | hmm, yeah, booting into nemo from my n9 right now :D | 18:28 |
qwazix | Stskeeps, lumia? | 18:28 |
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qwazix | sandy_locke, first boot does not finish (usually) | 18:28 |
Morpog_PC | Stskeeps, I stumbled about someting in committ messages :D | 18:28 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, it did for me :) | 18:29 |
qwazix | if you get stuck at splashscreen reboot | 18:29 |
Morpog_PC | and yes, I was bored | 18:29 |
Stskeeps | Morpog_PC: mm? | 18:29 |
sandy_locke | I'm on nemo now | 18:29 |
qwazix | sandy_locke, \o/ | 18:29 |
Stskeeps | qwazix: yes, use the proximity sensor to activate low power screen | 18:29 |
qwazix | Stskeeps, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83682 :P | 18:30 |
sandy_locke | is there a way to ssh into nemo ? | 18:30 |
Morpog_PC | Stskeeps, some commit messaages sounded like a notification LPM system like Moto X uses. But maybe I misunderstood :D | 18:30 |
qwazix | sandy_locke, just ssh nemo@phone-ip | 18:30 |
Stskeeps | Morpog_PC: oh, where? | 18:30 |
sandy_locke | thx qwazix | 18:30 |
qwazix | password nemo | 18:30 |
Stskeeps | qwazix: guys, patent your stuff | 18:31 |
Morpog_PC | Stskeeps, dunno, was browsing Vesuri's activity :) | 18:31 |
Stskeeps | :P | 18:31 |
qwazix | hehe | 18:31 |
w00t | Stskeeps: hrrm. :P | 18:32 |
w00t | faenil: ping | 18:33 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, what port ? | 18:33 |
qwazix | 22 | 18:34 |
sandy_locke | mmh, doesn't work | 18:34 |
Morpog_PC | is there a repo where all core nemo apps are? | 18:34 |
qwazix | sandy_locke, connection refused? | 18:34 |
sandy_locke | yes | 18:34 |
qwazix | weird | 18:34 |
sandy_locke | trying in usb mode | 18:34 |
qwazix | locusf's image? | 18:35 |
qwazix | I ssh'ed in successfully on the first try over wifi yesterday | 18:35 |
sandy_locke | wifi won't turn on | 18:36 |
qwazix | sandy_locke, poke it more | 18:36 |
sandy_locke | the switch keep switching on and off | 18:36 |
qwazix | ah... | 18:36 |
qwazix | mine wouldn't register the tap | 18:36 |
qwazix | try a reboot | 18:37 |
sandy_locke | ok did it | 18:37 |
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sandy_locke | it's like an old k7 player that you're trying to make play music ;) | 18:37 |
qwazix | hehe | 18:37 |
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stephg | sandy_locke how does it go | 18:40 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, alright, I'm in | 18:40 |
sandy_locke | :) | 18:40 |
sandy_locke | through wifi | 18:40 |
qwazix | good | 18:40 |
faenil | wow, can you believe I've finished reading the backlog only now? XD DMAX is too distracting!! (do you know DMAX?) | 18:40 |
faenil | w00t, pong | 18:40 |
* faenil resumes DMAX, which he paused as he couldn't keep reading the backlog for more than 20 secs xD | 18:41 | |
w00t | faenil: can you apply something like the eglplatformcommon part of https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris/pull/158/files to the wsegl egl wrapper? | 18:41 |
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w00t | (it'll replace the INVERTED_Y environment variable once everything lands..) | 18:42 |
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Morpog_PC | faenil, where should core apps icons go to? | 18:43 |
faenil | w00t, sure, I'll see if I get to understand something in there :P | 18:43 |
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w00t | ask if you need help | 18:44 |
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sandy_locke | zypper in --force https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/286182/maliit-plugins-0.99.0-1.i386.rpm fails | 18:44 |
faenil | oki, thanks | 18:45 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, in the theme I guess | 18:45 |
sandy_locke | '_tmpRPMcache_:maliit-plugins=0:0.99.0-1' --> not found ^^ | 18:45 |
sandy_locke | why '_tmpRPMcache_ ? | 18:45 |
Morpog_PC | faenil, well there is no theme for glacier yet or? | 18:45 |
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faenil | Morpog_PC, you meant glacier icons | 18:45 |
faenil | don't know about that | 18:45 |
Morpog_PC | or will it end up there? | 18:45 |
Morpog_PC | yep | 18:45 |
faenil | if we'll use another theme or what | 18:45 |
Morpog_PC | nope for default | 18:46 |
Morpog_PC | default glacier | 18:46 |
faenil | yes I meant I don't know if we'll use another theme for glacier | 18:46 |
faenil | or keep nemo-theme-default | 18:46 |
Morpog_PC | well, now there is base, blanco and darko | 18:47 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-theme-default | 18:48 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, faenil : how do you install a local rpm in nemo ? | 18:51 |
qwazix | rpm -i local.rpm | 18:51 |
sandy_locke | zypper install xx.rpm won't do | 18:51 |
faenil | sandy_locke, yes it should work | 18:51 |
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sandy_locke | arf, it says libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) needed to install | 18:52 |
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sandy_locke | but glibc is installed | 18:53 |
faenil | sandy_locke, maybe zypper ref and zypper dup before installing? | 18:53 |
sandy_locke | thx faenil, zypper dup updating | 18:54 |
sandy_locke | but zypper in --force xx.rpm doesn't work | 18:54 |
sandy_locke | although rpm -i do | 18:54 |
sandy_locke | but is there a way to force with rpm ? | 18:54 |
sandy_locke | faenil ^ | 18:55 |
faenil | sandy_locke, -f ? | 18:56 |
faenil | anyway, I usually use zypper, it should work | 18:56 |
sandy_locke | will try once zypper dup is finished | 18:56 |
faenil | if you're not giving the wrong path or something | 18:56 |
sandy_locke | now its in ./ | 18:56 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, are you doing icons work right now? :) | 18:57 |
qwazix | ah yeah it's -f | 18:57 |
qwazix | I couldn't install it without -f myself too | 18:57 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, no, I just pushed the latest to the repo | 18:57 |
Morpog_PC | ah OK, just wondered | 18:57 |
sandy_locke | faenil, zypper dup is to upgrade ? | 18:57 |
faenil | yes | 18:58 |
faenil | upgrade packages in the system | 18:58 |
sandy_locke | ok, then I'll reboot after that | 18:58 |
faenil | though from now on we should use PackageKit | 18:58 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, I just saw that you asked about icons and remembered to push | 18:58 |
faenil | i.e. forget zypper dup :) | 18:58 |
sandy_locke | howto ? | 18:58 |
faenil | sandy_locke, yeah, and hope it reboots :P | 18:58 |
qwazix | The repo is a bit of a mess (it was just a dump of sketches) but the latest icons are https://github.com/qwazix/nemoux/blob/master/icons.svg.2013_06_30_19_30_52.0.svg | 18:59 |
faenil | sandy_locke, I don't remember the command, if you read backlog about 2-3days ago | 18:59 |
faenil | you'll find me sledges and thp talking about it | 18:59 |
sandy_locke | faenil, ok I'll check | 18:59 |
faenil | bbl, dinner | 18:59 |
sandy_locke | faenil, have a nice meal :) | 19:00 |
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sandy_locke | qwazix, we need a new splashscreen | 19:03 |
sandy_locke | somthing more modern | 19:03 |
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qwazix | yep. I think the shutdown screen should be modified for startup too | 19:04 |
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sandy_locke | qwazix, yes the shutdown screen is nice | 19:04 |
sandy_locke | and appears smoothly | 19:04 |
sandy_locke | very pro | 19:04 |
sandy_locke | but nemo doesn't boot anymore after upgrade :/ | 19:05 |
qwazix | I'm not sure we can do the fade in for the bootscreen, but the image should be trivial | 19:05 |
sandy_locke | sadly, I'll have to copy back the previous files from linux again^^ | 19:05 |
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sandy_locke | qwazix, no need for the fade I believe | 19:06 |
qwazix | :nod: | 19:06 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, what do you think if I make an interactive demo of nemo ? | 19:06 |
qwazix | by all means! | 19:07 |
qwazix | that'd be awesome | 19:07 |
sandy_locke | Will do that tomorrow then | 19:07 |
sandy_locke | or maybe later, will see | 19:07 |
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sandy_locke | but had a great urge to do that earlier today since I would love to see Glacier in action | 19:07 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, you have an iphone or ipad ? | 19:09 |
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qwazix | sandy_locke, no, only a very aging iPod | 19:09 |
sandy_locke | ipod touch ? | 19:10 |
qwazix | (4.2.x) | 19:10 |
qwazix | yeah | 19:10 |
sandy_locke | ok will do | 19:10 |
sandy_locke | install this app once the mockup is ready: http://www.appcooker.com/apptaster-play-mockups-wireframes/ | 19:10 |
qwazix | okay | 19:11 |
faenil | sandy_locke, wait, don't copy over | 19:13 |
faenil | why doesn't it boot? | 19:13 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, ok if i try to get the icon shapes on grid? | 19:13 |
sandy_locke | faenil, dunno, it's just stuck in splash screen | 19:13 |
faenil | boot, ssh in and pastebin journalctl as root | 19:13 |
sandy_locke | sometimes the splash fades and reappears | 19:14 |
faenil | ^ | 19:14 |
sandy_locke | faenil, ok | 19:14 |
faenil | sandy_locke, pasta is cooking :D | 19:14 |
sandy_locke | ;) | 19:14 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, no problem, though it's probably a waste of time | 19:14 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, why? | 19:14 |
Morpog_PC | aah | 19:15 |
qwazix | because we'll have to put them in seperate files anyway | 19:15 |
Morpog_PC | thats what I'm doing | 19:15 |
qwazix | ah, okay, misunderstood | 19:15 |
Morpog_PC | 80x80 size, circle shape is 74x74 | 19:15 |
Morpog_PC | so there is space for stuff sticking out | 19:15 |
qwazix | i thought you wanted to fix the alignment in the svg file | 19:15 |
qwazix | :nod: | 19:15 |
Morpog_PC | yeah that would be a waste :) | 19:16 |
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sandy_locke | faenil, when do I ssh in ? | 19:18 |
sandy_locke | while in splashscreen ? | 19:18 |
sledges | yes | 19:18 |
sandy_locke | because telnet is not working for me in MOSLO | 19:19 |
sandy_locke | sledges, how do I connect ? there's no wifi activated since it didn"t boot, and the USB connection is not set | 19:21 |
sandy_locke | sledges, nevermind, did it, wifi's working | 19:23 |
Morpog_PC | looking good I think: http://abload.de/img/nemomobile-wayland9aswa.png | 19:24 |
Morpog_PC | maybe we should go for a bigger icon size than 80x80 | 19:25 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, yeah, 100*100 will by 1cm*1cm on the N9 | 19:25 |
alterego | I see one new icon? :) | 19:25 |
Morpog_PC | alterego, yeah just a try :) | 19:26 |
sledges | sandy_locke: good stuff | 19:26 |
alterego | Didn't harmattan use 96^ ? | 19:26 |
Morpog_PC | nope | 19:26 |
Morpog_PC | sailfish does | 19:26 |
sandy_locke | faenil, sledges : here it is :http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=w9L0SZtr | 19:26 |
sandy_locke | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=w9L0SZtr | 19:26 |
sandy_locke | (clickable) | 19:26 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, 100x100 could be too less psacing | 19:26 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, can you please try a screeny with one that has more things sticking out? Maybe packages? | 19:27 |
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Morpog_PC | sure | 19:27 |
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sandy_locke | Morpog_PC, qwazix, what's the new icon ? | 19:27 |
qwazix | sandy_locke, Music | 19:27 |
sandy_locke | mmh yeah I see it now | 19:28 |
sledges | sandy_locke: did you try to reboot again? ;) | 19:28 |
sandy_locke | sledges, faenil, anything relevant ? | 19:28 |
sandy_locke | sledges, yes | 19:28 |
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sandy_locke | sledges, it worked once | 19:28 |
sledges | yes i see a suspect, but i wamt another reboot | 19:28 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, packages is an Image? | 19:28 |
sandy_locke | but since the upgrade no more | 19:28 |
sledges | sandy_locke: 1 reboot after upgrade might not be enough | 19:29 |
sandy_locke | sledges, ok, I'll reboot then | 19:29 |
sledges | ouch | 19:29 |
sledges | wqit | 19:29 |
sledges | wait | 19:29 |
sandy_locke | funny thing the tethered boot btw ;) | 19:29 |
sandy_locke | sledges, yes ? | 19:29 |
sledges | zypper se mesa | 19:29 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, yep | 19:29 |
sledges | are any mesa packages installed? | 19:29 |
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Morpog_PC | hard to get that one pixel perfect ;) | 19:30 |
qwazix | let me see if I have the original | 19:30 |
sandy_locke | mesa-demos-* and mesa-llvmpipe-* | 19:30 |
sledges | crash boom banh | 19:30 |
sledges | g | 19:31 |
faenil | sorry | 19:31 |
sledges | please do | 19:31 |
sledges | ssu ur | 19:31 |
sledges | and the again zypper ref | 19:31 |
faenil | ffs, why does mesa get into place :( | 19:31 |
sledges | and paste zypper dup | 19:31 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, mmmh there sticks too much out of it | 19:31 |
sledges | faenil: ^ | 19:31 |
Morpog_PC | would need to do the shape even smaller | 19:31 |
faenil | yeah I remember the workaround, but I thought that didn't happen with the latest image | 19:31 |
faenil | I mean, why should it happen... | 19:31 |
sandy_locke | sledges, do I paste zypper dup ? | 19:31 |
faenil | anyway, back to pasta :) | 19:32 |
faenil | bbl | 19:32 |
sledges | paste its outpt yes | 19:32 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, I don't have it, it's probably on the other pc, I'll have to search for it, let's go for something else for now | 19:32 |
sledges | bwfore clockong yes | 19:32 |
sandy_locke | those to be upgraded : nemo-configs-n950-n9 nemo-configs-n950-n9-wayland | 19:33 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, I think that one needs some rework also | 19:33 |
sledges | sandy_locke: anything else? | 19:33 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, bigger version I have right now http://play.qwazix.com/shared/packages.png | 19:34 |
Morpog_PC | mmmh png :( | 19:35 |
sandy_locke | sledges, no, that's it | 19:35 |
qwazix | yeah, it's a modified photo | 19:35 |
qwazix | too detailed to remake as svg | 19:35 |
sledges | sandy_locke: you need to zypper rm those mesa packages | 19:35 |
qwazix | (I can try to trace it) | 19:35 |
sledges | and zypper in ti-sgx | 19:35 |
sledges | sorry bout that | 19:35 |
sandy_locke | sledges, zypper rm mesa-llvmpipe* etc.. ? | 19:36 |
sledges | yes | 19:36 |
sandy_locke | k | 19:36 |
sledges | one by ome | 19:36 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, maybe we should redo it later, not sure how it would look on a 720p display where it gets scaled | 19:36 |
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sledges | sandy_locke: when done zypper se sgx and install one package which has the shortest name "ti-..." cant eemember now :D | 19:40 |
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sandy_locke | sledges: ti-sgx not found | 19:41 |
sledges | ^ | 19:41 |
sledges | ;) | 19:41 |
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sandy_locke | sledges, it's ti-omap3-sgx , but it installed it while removing the other packages | 19:42 |
sledges | it did? | 19:42 |
sledges | niice | 19:42 |
sledges | good | 19:42 |
sledges | synx | 19:42 |
sledges | sync | 19:42 |
sandy_locke | yup, like a grown up ;) | 19:42 |
sledges | reboot | 19:42 |
sledges | :D smart ;) | 19:42 |
sandy_locke | ok rebooting | 19:43 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, I traced it, you can pull and check it out. I also might have a higher res image somewhere, I bought the photo off a stock site | 19:43 |
sandy_locke | tethered reboot for you ;) | 19:43 |
qwazix | the traced one is to the right somewhere | 19:43 |
qwazix | looks a bit like impressionist art | 19:44 |
sandy_locke | sledges, nice debugging ;) | 19:44 |
sandy_locke | it boot up normally | 19:44 |
sledges | thanks, months and months.. | 19:44 |
sandy_locke | ;) | 19:44 |
sledges | the last solution is thanks to faenil's research | 19:45 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, size on the N9 though looks it could go a bit larger, to be around the same radius as the current squircles | 19:45 |
sandy_locke | yeah, you do great jobs | 19:45 |
sledges | ao next time navigate to our [updated] wiki under Nemo/Updating | 19:45 |
sandy_locke | sledges, when doing zypper in --force maliit-plugins-0.99.0-1.i386.rpm | 19:46 |
sledges | aye | 19:46 |
sandy_locke | I get _tmpRPMcache_:maliit-plugins=0:0.99.0-1 not found | 19:46 |
sledges | erm | 19:47 |
sandy_locke | the rpm is local btw | 19:47 |
sandy_locke | in ./ | 19:47 |
sledges | locusf: ^ | 19:47 |
sledges | ? | 19:47 |
sandy_locke | same with the http address you gave me | 19:47 |
sandy_locke | sledges, with rpm -i -f it asks for glibc ^^ | 19:48 |
faenil | back | 19:48 |
sandy_locke | faenil, I'm back in nemo thx to sledges and you :) | 19:48 |
faenil | \o/ | 19:49 |
sandy_locke | but still no luck with local rpm install :/ | 19:49 |
faenil | lol | 19:49 |
sledges | where is that rpm from? | 19:49 |
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faenil | w00t, ok I think I know what to do | 19:50 |
qwazix | bbl | 19:51 |
sandy_locke | from locusf , sledges | 19:51 |
sledges | ah | 19:51 |
sledges | lol good guess | 19:52 |
sledges | i think mer core got rebuilt no Stskeeps ? | 19:52 |
sledges | due to those glibc mismatches | 19:52 |
sandy_locke | sledges, the nemo build locusf gave me is from 2 days ago btw | 19:53 |
sledges | so plugins might be neesing a rebuild | 19:53 |
sledges | but the rpm might be old | 19:53 |
sandy_locke | the rpm worked in the vm | 19:53 |
sledges | how old is the vm image :p | 19:54 |
sandy_locke | sledges, 2 months I think, or two weeks ^^ | 19:54 |
sandy_locke | can't remember | 19:55 |
sledges | so | 19:55 |
sledges | nemo image is 1day old | 19:55 |
sledges | where core might differ already | 19:55 |
sledges | and rpms are older | 19:55 |
faenil | sledges, the rpm is from this weekend iirc | 19:55 |
sledges | the i give up | 19:55 |
faenil | sandy_locke, so, rpm -ifvh <file> doesn't work? | 19:56 |
sledges | ow! | 19:56 |
sledges | ofc | 19:56 |
sledges | architecture | 19:56 |
faenil | LOL | 19:56 |
faenil | ahahahah | 19:56 |
faenil | such noobs we are :D | 19:56 |
sledges | whos installing i386 rpms on arm? | 19:57 |
faenil | that guy! o/ | 19:57 |
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Morpog_PC | qwazix, they are very small when you take package icon as base | 19:57 |
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Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/image.php?img=nemomobile-wayland8wo56.png | 19:58 |
sandy_locke | faenil, wait I try | 19:58 |
Morpog_PC | and yes I know, it's not the notes icon :D | 19:58 |
sledges | sandy_locke: no reason | 19:59 |
sledges | get armv7hl rpms first | 19:59 |
sledges | :) | 19:59 |
sandy_locke | sledges, faenil, nope still needs dependencies :libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) | 19:59 |
sandy_locke | but glibc is there already | 19:59 |
faenil | what did you try | 19:59 |
sledges | sandy_locke: ^ | 19:59 |
sledges | ;) | 19:59 |
sandy_locke | rpm -ifvh <file> | 19:59 |
faenil | sandy_locke, read last minute of backlog :) | 19:59 |
sandy_locke | lol | 20:00 |
sandy_locke | yeah alright, now I remember ^^ | 20:00 |
sandy_locke | he compiled for x86 | 20:01 |
faenil | sandy_locke, also for arm, I tested it on n950 | 20:01 |
faenil | try looking in the weblog | 20:01 |
faenil | he posted an arm link for me to test it | 20:01 |
sandy_locke | at what time faenil ? do you remember ? | 20:01 |
faenil | it was this weekend | 20:01 |
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faenil | just look for dropbox | 20:02 |
faenil | w00t, so it won't work at the moment, right? the PR is for the future | 20:02 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, even exported as 100x100 it's smaller than N9 squircles | 20:02 |
sandy_locke | faenil, found it :) | 20:02 |
faenil | sandy_locke, good | 20:02 |
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qwazix | Morpog_PC, I think size is constrained in qml | 20:06 |
qwazix | png dimensions don't seem to matter | 20:06 |
Morpog_PC | sure | 20:07 |
Morpog_PC | I just photoshopped it | 20:07 |
Morpog_PC | second | 20:07 |
sandy_locke | faenil, the stick only work up and left ? | 20:07 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, did you try it ? | 20:07 |
Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/nemomobile-waylandl8qxn.png | 20:07 |
faenil | sandy_locke, nope, worked all directions when I tried it | 20:08 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, package icon over calendar icon is exporeted as 100x100 | 20:08 |
Morpog_PC | red squares are 100x100 scaures | 20:08 |
Morpog_PC | squares | 20:08 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/blob/master/src/qml/LauncherItemDelegate.qml#L147 | 20:08 |
sandy_locke | faenil, yes I see, you have to be perfectly perpendicular for it to work | 20:08 |
sandy_locke | anyway, it's a nice proof of concept | 20:09 |
qwazix | sandy_locke, I tried it, it still works like a joystick and not like a trackpad | 20:09 |
faenil | aha | 20:09 |
stephg | /me is perfectly perpendicular | 20:09 |
sandy_locke | needs haptic feedback now ;) | 20:09 |
stephg | damnit! | 20:09 |
faenil | special, lol :D | 20:09 |
qwazix | i.e. you need to go to the other side of the stick to move right | 20:09 |
faenil | ouch XD | 20:09 |
faenil | special, sorry bro, meant stephg :P | 20:09 |
stephg | I know :) | 20:09 |
sandy_locke | stephg, rhoooo ;) | 20:10 |
stephg | I actually have some time tonight so I'm going to boot locusf's latest | 20:10 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, checked screen? | 20:10 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, 100x100 might be okay, as we won't fill the square | 20:10 |
qwazix | visual effect of the parts sticking out is minimal | 20:10 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, but with 100x100 the icon base circle shape is still smaller as squircles | 20:10 |
Morpog_PC | check the package icon over calendar icon | 20:11 |
qwazix | no, that's because icon size is set to 80 in qml | 20:11 |
qwazix | ah, yeah | 20:11 |
Morpog_PC | again qwazix It#s shopped :) | 20:11 |
sledges | theres info how how to program haptics | 20:11 |
qwazix | now I saw that | 20:11 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, what do you mean ? it should let the cursor move any direction until the user release the touch ? | 20:11 |
Morpog_PC | maybe we should limit the space of sticking stuff out | 20:11 |
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sandy_locke | sledges, would be good, since a lot of the trick is with haptic feedback on this stick | 20:11 |
qwazix | sandy_locke, I mean that when you stop moving it should stop. Now it still moves, until you go back above the trackpoint | 20:11 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, we can shave off a bit of the packages strings | 20:12 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, yeah you're right, should be the normal behaviour | 20:12 |
sledges | ok ping me when youre ready to code (ie dev env) | 20:12 |
qwazix | (the one on the right which affects total size much) | 20:12 |
sandy_locke | sledges, lol | 20:12 |
qwazix | anyway, I'm out for a while | 20:12 |
sledges | ;) | 20:13 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, ok, so I try to find a mix, maybe a bit bigger as squircles even, as circles have less space | 20:13 |
sledges | l8rs qwazix ! | 20:13 |
sandy_locke | ++ qwazix | 20:13 |
sandy_locke | qwazix, we should write specs for the stick | 20:14 |
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w00t | faenil: pretty much. missing pieces in qtwayland and a bunch of other places, but I've already patched them, they just need integrating | 20:16 |
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faenil | w00t, okay, what about the header file, there isn't any, and the ti-omap-sgx one is x11 | 20:16 |
w00t | check which EGL headers it builds against, i imagine that it uses mesa's - those aren't patched yet, will probably be done tomorrow | 20:17 |
faenil | ok, so not my task | 20:17 |
sledges | faenil: so ssu ur needs to enter .ks to work? | 20:18 |
faenil | sledges, I don't know why that is not working, I don't know much about ssu | 20:19 |
faenil | but the fact is, we don't have adaptation0 and adaptation1 repos on fresh images | 20:19 |
faenil | and ssu ur fixes that | 20:19 |
sledges | ok | 20:19 |
sledges | will look | 20:19 |
sledges | as its clear now why ;) | 20:20 |
faenil | what is clear? :D | 20:20 |
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sledges | thing you just explained | 20:20 |
faenil | ah :) I think I told that when I told you about the workaround, sorry about that :) | 20:21 |
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sledges | you might have, i just filtered out as "not a problem anymore" ;D | 20:22 |
faenil | :D | 20:22 |
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sandy_locke | just update http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=626 with the blackberry pic and mention, qwazix | 20:30 |
sandy_locke | ok guys, I go eat and watch a goddamn episode of the wire :) | 20:30 |
Morpog_PC | have fun | 20:30 |
stephg | niiight | 20:31 |
alterego | shiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeet | 20:31 |
alterego | Love The Wire | 20:31 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, ok, I think icon size 100x100 and circle size 80x80 seems to be a good compromise | 20:31 |
faenil | w00t, it uses TI's egl, PR coming ;) | 20:32 |
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faenil | w00t, https://github.com/nemomobile/ti-omap3-sgx-wayland-wsegl/pull/2 | 20:52 |
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qwazix | Morpog_PC, yeah, I think so too | 21:03 |
faenil | ok, so let's see if I can push all the needed things for orientation handling in Glacier components :) | 21:07 |
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zbenjamin | what does it mean when the small led in the left corner blinks? | 21:44 |
alterego | I usually get that if it's charging from flat. | 21:44 |
alterego | or plugged in for flashing | 21:45 |
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zbenjamin | could explain its behaviour | 21:45 |
alterego | possibly a lowlevel battery charge indicator or something. | 21:45 |
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zbenjamin | is there a way to check battery level? | 21:53 |
zbenjamin | in moslo? | 21:53 |
alterego | Do you have sysfs? :) | 21:56 |
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zbenjamin | i wonder why my usb network dies all the time | 21:59 |
zbenjamin | now i have sysfs, it finally booted | 22:01 |
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alterego | Finally got my workstation to get ubuntu and windows 7 to sit next to each other in EFI -_- | 22:19 |
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M4rtinK | EFI is always heaps of "fun" :) | 22:21 |
alterego | The price I paid for having a >2TB RAID array :/ | 22:22 |
alterego | And windows .. | 22:22 |
M4rtinK | well for >2TB partitions you only need GPT | 22:24 |
M4rtinK | not necessarily also EFI | 22:24 |
alterego | Which Windows only supports in EFI | 22:24 |
M4rtinK | I have a machine that runs with > 2TB partition just fine booting with bios (from smaller partition though) | 22:25 |
M4rtinK | bah, Windows, who uses that :D | 22:25 |
alterego | Well, I tried PCI passthrough in Xen first, but it turns out something doesn't like it. | 22:25 |
mikhas | faenil, (or was it qwazix?), could you please check the in-line comments on <https://github.com/maliit/plugins/pull/4>? | 22:29 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: hi | 22:30 |
mikhas | some of them are just coding style issues | 22:30 |
fk_lx | mikhas: hi | 22:30 |
faenil | mikhas, checked | 22:31 |
faenil | mikhas, what do you want me to do? :) | 22:32 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: oh, hi ! :) | 22:33 |
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fk_lx | M4rtinK: hope I will make on time there on Thursday :-) | 22:35 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: looking forward to meeting you in Cesky Tesin on Thursday :) | 22:35 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: well it should be a short ride - one hour at most to the venue | 22:36 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: don't worry, I've already added a small time reserve (iirc, the time should be arriving around 12:30 anyway) | 22:36 |
fk_lx | ok :-) | 22:36 |
M4rtinK | and I can just wait a bit if needed :) | 22:36 |
mikhas | faenil, https://github.com/maliit/plugins/pull/4#discussion_r6883644 hasn't been addressed? | 22:37 |
M4rtinK | the train lines I plan to use are quite heavily traveled, so hopefully there should be no unpleasant surprises :) | 22:37 |
faenil | mikhas, yeah, but those are by locusf, why do you ask us? :D | 22:38 |
mikhas | ah | 22:38 |
mikhas | because I keep mixing everything up | 22:38 |
mikhas | sorry | 22:38 |
faenil | :) np | 22:38 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: hope so, see you then | 22:39 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: anyway, thanks a lot for the ride! with public transport only it would have been quite an odyssey | 22:39 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: sure, looking forward to the conference ! :) | 22:39 |
Morpog_PC | lol | 22:41 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: I am already tired of all those events and conferences :-P and to make it worse I've got two invitations this week two attend more (and speak on one), but will have to reject that | 22:41 |
Morpog_PC | locusf, made you an icon for screenshot tool :) | 22:41 |
M4rtinK | yeah, there is like one or oven more every weekend lately :) | 22:41 |
sledges | nite peeps! | 22:42 |
faenil | sledges, o/ cya tomorrow! | 22:42 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: also not sure if I will be able to aid you and Jozef in Brno on LinuxAlt | 22:42 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, great, thanks :) | 22:42 |
fk_lx | sledges: bye | 22:42 |
faenil | fk_lx, you're popular in conferences :D | 22:42 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: well, I'll be there, Jozef already recruited me as a helper :D | 22:43 |
faenil | fk_lx, my bday is on 24th, do you want to organize something for that? lol | 22:43 |
fk_lx | faenil: sure, just booking a ticket to Pisa now | 22:44 |
fk_lx | :-P | 22:44 |
faenil | :D | 22:44 |
fk_lx | I hope Silvia will do a good cake for you ;-) | 22:44 |
M4rtinK | careful faenil, Filip might be serious :D | 22:45 |
faenil | :) | 22:45 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: hehe :-) | 22:45 |
faenil | M4rtinK, ahhahah well, he knows I'd be glad to meet him again ;) | 22:45 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: BTW, any idea if THP will be coming to the conference ? :) | 22:46 |
M4rtinK | already missed him a couple of times :) | 22:46 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: well, all places are already booked, so even if he want there is no such possibility anymore | 22:47 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: it seems that next year I need to reserve more than 400 beds in hotel | 22:49 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: conference is really going in the good direction | 22:50 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: well, that's good to hear | 22:50 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: its not easy to get a conference that far | 22:50 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: it usually tops at about ~250 people | 22:51 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: even Guadec and Akademy are like that | 22:51 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: well it shows that Python community is strong and that it is widely used in companies | 22:52 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: that's also a very good news :) | 22:52 |
zbenjamin | is there a way i can use the LipstickCompositor class from a app? | 22:53 |
zbenjamin | LipstickCompositor::instance() .... | 22:53 |
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zbenjamin | i always get erros about missing headers | 22:53 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: Java & .Net, watch out, your days are numbered :P | 22:54 |
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M4rtinK | fk_lx: still I think improvements are needed for Python mobile development | 22:55 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: me also | 22:55 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: but as long as Google and Apple are main players don't expect too many changes | 22:56 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: but anyway we have very good support for Python on Jolla :-) | 22:56 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: I think the thps recent PyOtherSide work has a very big potential in this regard | 22:56 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: of course, I agree | 22:56 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: yes, that is a very good think | 22:57 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: with Nokia it was always on a side track and while the main development track is of course C++ & QML | 22:58 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: I finally get the feeling Python is at least not a second class citizen anymore | 22:58 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: :-) | 22:58 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: with PyPy getting up to speed lately, things might get interesting :) | 22:59 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: PyOtherSide & PyPy might be a killer combination | 23:00 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: well thp in Berlin mentioned PyPy support in PyOtherside as possible future feature | 23:01 |
fk_lx | M4rtinK: PyPyOtherside :-D | 23:01 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: LOL :) | 23:01 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: well, the interface between Qt & Python is very minimal in PyOtherSide so it might not even be that complicated | 23:02 |
mikhas | hm … Py²POts | 23:02 |
fk_lx | mikhas: +1 | 23:02 |
M4rtinK | fk_lx: and the speedup might be nice | 23:02 |
fk_lx | ok, anyway, nice chatting with you guys | 23:03 |
fk_lx | but I gotta get some sleep | 23:03 |
fk_lx | very busy day tomorrow | 23:04 |
M4rtinK | same thing :) | 23:04 |
fk_lx | starts for me at 5 AM | 23:04 |
fk_lx | so only 4 hours of sleep | 23:04 |
M4rtinK | uh | 23:04 |
fk_lx | yeah | 23:04 |
fk_lx | uh uh | 23:04 |
fk_lx | ok, bye | 23:04 |
M4rtinK | bye any good night ! :) | 23:04 |
mikhas | take care fk_lx | 23:05 |
zbenjamin | faenil: do you know where the file qmdisplaystate.h comes from? | 23:05 |
fk_lx | mikhas: thanks, same to you | 23:05 |
faenil | zbenjamin, I know there's a package called qmsystems or something | 23:05 |
faenil | might be in there | 23:05 |
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zbenjamin | i try to grab the orientationChanged signal from the LipstickCompositor instance in colorful-home, maybe i can simulate the normal behaviour | 23:06 |
zbenjamin | but that file is missing | 23:06 |
Morpog_PC | enough for today | 23:06 |
Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/nemomobile-waylanddwpdh.png | 23:06 |
faenil | zbenjamin, why not do what special said? | 23:07 |
zbenjamin | what did he say? | 23:07 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, looks good :) | 23:07 |
zbenjamin | sorry if i did forget it ;) there is so much information every day .... | 23:07 |
faenil | zbenjamin, that you have to add handling in lipstick to send orientation changes to eglfs window as well | 23:07 |
faenil | oh ok :) | 23:08 |
Morpog_PC | just needs alot of patches, to make it look like that on device, but that I will handle later.... | 23:08 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, ehehe | 23:08 |
zbenjamin | faenil: ok thats a start | 23:08 |
zbenjamin | faenil: my idea does not work anyway ;) | 23:11 |
faenil | :) | 23:11 |
zbenjamin | faenil: eglfs window or windows | 23:15 |
faenil | ? | 23:15 |
zbenjamin | i mean is only the desktop using a eglfs window or other applications too? basically i need a starting point where i have to look ;) | 23:17 |
faenil | zbenjamin, only desktop afaik | 23:17 |
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zbenjamin | faenil: the HomeWindow thingy? | 23:22 |
faenil | could be | 23:22 |
faenil | not sure what you're supposed to do there though, swapping sizes manually? (cc special ) | 23:23 |
faenil | anyway, good night people :) | 23:25 |
special | zbenjamin: I expect you should rotate in QML inside lipstick. | 23:26 |
faenil | special, it's already using pagestackwindow | 23:26 |
zbenjamin | special: is it possible the compositor itself just does not get the orientation update?`because its not sending it to itself | 23:27 |
zbenjamin | ^guess | 23:27 |
special | zbenjamin: it sends the orientation updates to clients as wayland messages, right? | 23:28 |
zbenjamin | yes | 23:28 |
special | right. So it can't send that to itself, because it's not a wayland window. | 23:28 |
zbenjamin | QWaylandCompositor::setScreenOrientation(screenOrientation); | 23:28 |
zbenjamin | thats what it does | 23:28 |
special | you need to give PageStackWindow the current orientation some other way. Maybe there's a way to set it for the eglfs platform plugin so that the result looks the same to PageStackWindow as it does under the wayland plugin | 23:29 |
special | otherwise, PageStackWindow needs to be informed of it by something else for the lipstick case | 23:29 |
zbenjamin | hmm i guess i could set the property from the outside maybe? | 23:29 |
special | so the question is what exactly PSW does it to get the orientation, and then how you could set it manually for the eglfs window | 23:30 |
zbenjamin | true | 23:30 |
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zbenjamin | it gets the signal from Window orientationChangeStarted | 23:31 |
zbenjamin | using screen.orientationString | 23:32 |
faenil | yep | 23:32 |
zbenjamin | means i need the QScreen object responsible for it and emit its signal | 23:33 |
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zbenjamin | hmm can i use QGuiApplicationPrivate? | 23:33 |
faenil | zbenjamin, in that case screen is mdeclarativescreen, the one you patched to use QScreen | 23:34 |
special | maybe, but it's better if you don't | 23:34 |
faenil | and QScreen gets the update from compositor | 23:34 |
zbenjamin | because it has a function for reporting orientation changes | 23:34 |
special | better if you can track that back to a way to change it "naturally" | 23:34 |
zbenjamin | no it does not, as we just said , we don't get the message because we are not a wayland window | 23:35 |
faenil | zbenjamin, it does, just not in homewindow case | 23:35 |
faenil | I was talking for the generic case | 23:36 |
zbenjamin | ah i was talking for the homewindow case ;) | 23:36 |
faenil | zbenjamin, it was to tell special what the current behaviour is | 23:36 |
zbenjamin | http://code.woboq.org/qt5/qtbase/src/gui/kernel/qguiapplication.cpp.html#_ZN22QGuiApplicationPrivate29reportScreenOrientationChangeEP7QScreen | 23:36 |
zbenjamin | ^ | 23:37 |
zbenjamin | thats how QGuiAppl handles it | 23:37 |
zbenjamin | special: i just need a solution for homewindow, the other applications are already working | 23:38 |
faenil | I think he got that :D | 23:38 |
faenil | so, we already get the signal, because in compositor we have the change of orientation | 23:39 |
faenil | what about calling some method on homewindow in that case? | 23:39 |
zbenjamin | the question is , do other applications use liblipstick? | 23:39 |
zbenjamin | could work yeah | 23:40 |
special | "use" in what way? | 23:40 |
special | my personal preference would be either: 1) Tell PSW directly from the homescreen QML to rotate in response to some signal from lipstick; 2) Find a way to actually set orientation on the eglfs window so that it reports orientation in QScreen the same way the wayland one does | 23:40 |
zbenjamin | http://code.woboq.org/qt5/qtbase/src/gui/kernel/qwindowsysteminterface.h.html << like calling handleScreenOrientationChange | 23:40 |
faenil | special, if 2 works, you get 1 | 23:41 |
faenil | that is the usual path | 23:41 |
zbenjamin | i could manually emit QScreens signal maybe | 23:41 |
zbenjamin | but that feels not good imho | 23:42 |
zbenjamin | where does our QPlatformScreen implementation come from | 23:46 |
zbenjamin | ? | 23:46 |
special | the eglfs plugin, probably | 23:47 |
faenil | zbenjamin, https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/source/0726127285413829f58618b5b82fb3e2da0c3a74:src/plugins/platforms/eglfs | 23:48 |
special | https://github.com/mer-packages/qtbase-eglfsvb maybe | 23:48 |
faenil | oh, the patched one | 23:49 |
zbenjamin | i'm currently searching where the orientationChanged signal is emitted, but it seems its always done by QGuiApplication | 23:51 |
zbenjamin | means i need to find where QGuiApplication gets its information from | 23:51 |
faenil | zbenjamin, https://github.com/mer-packages/qtbase-eglfsvb/blob/master/qtbase/src/plugins/platforms/eglfsvb/qeglfsvbpageflipper.cpp#L146 | 23:52 |
faenil | there we go :) | 23:52 |
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zbenjamin | yay | 23:53 |
zbenjamin | but its in the plugin... can i access it? | 23:54 |
faenil | well, you should be able to access it using platformWindow() stuff like that, right special ? | 23:54 |
special | check in the environment if eglfsvb is actually being used by lipstick now first of all | 23:55 |
special | I'm not sure it is. | 23:56 |
special | it's related to direct rendering | 23:57 |
zbenjamin | its a env var? | 23:58 |
special | grep -r eglfs /var/lib/environment/ | 23:59 |
faenil | we're using eglfs on n950 | 23:59 |
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