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sledges | hi | 06:10 |
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iekku | nemo bug triage starting | 07:01 |
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faenil | morning | 08:53 |
locusf | morning | 08:54 |
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w00t | mmmh | 09:04 |
w00t | at least you didn't try call it a good one | 09:04 |
* w00t shakes fist | 09:04 | |
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faenil | raining cats and dogs here....ahhhhhh, Pisa | 09:10 |
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w00t | no rain here, just cold | 09:28 |
w00t | http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Nord-Tr%C3%B8ndelag/Leksvik/Vanvikan/ | 09:29 |
faenil | w00t, not that cold :) thought it would have been worse over there already :) | 09:30 |
locusf | http://ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/saa/kuopio <- 2.9 C here | 09:37 |
faenil | locusf, are you finnish? | 09:38 |
locusf | faenil: yes | 09:39 |
faenil | locusf, oh :) didn't know | 09:39 |
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locusf | even my name says it, Aleksi Suomalainen | 09:39 |
faenil | yeah the name is pretty finnish :P | 09:39 |
locusf | Aleksi Finn | 09:39 |
faenil | yeah... | 09:40 |
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locusf | what would one have to do, if one would like to record the video of user interaction via wayland compositor (eg. lipstick)? | 10:15 |
faenil | locusf, hired by NSA eh? :P | 10:16 |
locusf | lol | 10:16 |
locusf | was just wondering for my research :p | 10:16 |
locusf | it would help if I could get realtime images from the compositor as video to see what random users are doing with the UX | 10:16 |
Stskeeps | locusf: glreadpixels should do the trick.. | 10:17 |
locusf | Stskeeps: hmm, ok | 10:17 |
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sledges | reminds me time-to-market principle. if you got a brand new idea in this world, Åchances are someone else has too :D https://twitter.com/qole/status/389282154703630336 | 10:32 |
faenil | sledges, wow :) | 10:33 |
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Morpog_N9 | well, it's not really a new idea :) | 10:41 |
Morpog_N9 | only for a touch kbd | 10:41 |
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sledges | that'Ãs what i mean | 10:42 |
* sledges should stop spitting the broken-utf8 symbols for once :D | 10:43 | |
faenil | ahah | 10:43 |
locusf | lol | 10:44 |
sledges | since my friend's 24/7 irc server crash, new installation has broken utf8 terminal support.... need to prod him | 10:45 |
alterego | Doesn't sound 24/7 to me .. | 10:46 |
sledges | last time i had to fix utf8 terminal was years ago, these days it should be oob | 10:46 |
sledges | so forgot it all :D | 10:46 |
sledges | alterego: too true ;) that's another problem, but can't blame him :)) | 10:47 |
alterego | I dunno, I still have problems with UTF-8 all the time. | 10:47 |
alterego | Don't get me started on IPv6 either .. | 10:47 |
sledges | ax it's ubuntu 13.04, no wonder the regressions..... | 10:47 |
alterego | Sometimes I think the way we adopt things is so bad, we should forceably make ourselves use dialup modems again .. | 10:47 |
alterego | I suppose GSM/GPRS/UMTS/LTS blah aren't that much different essentially though. | 10:48 |
alterego | LTE .. | 10:48 |
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KhertanAtwork | Hello ! | 13:24 |
KhertanAtwork | Sfiet_Konstantin, https://github.com/thp/pyotherside/pull/4 :) | 13:26 |
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thp | KhertanAtwork: nice. but that only works for a single .py file, right? | 13:30 |
thp | KhertanAtwork: we should probably really do something like importlib or importhooks or something, as one probably wants to put all files into the qt resources, not just a single .py file | 13:30 |
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KhertanAtwork | thp, right | 13:32 |
KhertanAtwork | thp, yep that the second part of the plan | 13:32 |
thp | KhertanAtwork: so i'll probably not merge that right away, but wait for the full implementation, ok? :) | 13:33 |
KhertanAtwork | thp, but look like hook to implement the module search and all the mechanic is a bit more complex if i want to keep 2.x compatibility | 13:33 |
KhertanAtwork | thp, no problem that s ok | 13:34 |
KhertanAtwork | thp, pushing the pull is more to show to other user that s possible if they are in hurry | 13:34 |
KhertanAtwork | :) | 13:34 |
KhertanAtwork | and OH GOD THERE ISN'T A TEST CASE ! | 13:35 |
KhertanAtwork | :) | 13:35 |
thp | KhertanAtwork: i personally don't care about 2.x compatibility, but if it's not too hard to keep it, we should make sure that it works well (or at least still builds) for/with with 2.x | 13:36 |
thp | same for qt 4.x | 13:36 |
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KhertanAtwork | thp, i know, that s important for me, as harmattan will never evolve to Qt5 nor Py3 :) | 14:09 |
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thp | Khertan: py3k is actually simple, just install to e.g. /opt/python3/ and link pyotherside against it; i've done that on my own n9 | 14:15 |
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thp | Khertan: as for qt5, it does exist, and at least qt 5.1 still has some harmattan specific mkspecs, but i haven't gotten it to build last time i tried | 14:15 |
thp | and the snowshoe qt5 repos are kind of broken / the website doesn't work | 14:16 |
Khertan | yep | 14:17 |
sledges | faenil locusf : check check :) https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-configs-n950-n9/pull/4 | 14:22 |
locusf | sledges: LGTM | 14:22 |
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locusf | damn the trackpoint is still to sensitive | 14:34 |
faenil | locusf, what formula are you using? | 14:35 |
locusf | faenil: I'm using a timer to tone down the key repeats | 14:35 |
locusf | interval was 20 | 14:35 |
locusf | so .002 seconds | 14:35 |
locusf | or is it .02 | 14:36 |
faenil | latter | 14:36 |
locusf | ok, its now .05 seconds | 14:36 |
faenil | that's still 20 chars / sec | 14:37 |
locusf | https://github.com/locusf/plugins/blob/master/nemo-keyboard/org/nemomobile/KeyboardBase.qml#L91 | 14:37 |
locusf | yeah | 14:37 |
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faenil | how is the timer triggered if you keep resetting it? | 14:38 |
locusf | hmm good point | 14:39 |
locusf | it still works though .. | 14:39 |
locusf | which is strange | 14:39 |
faenil | xD | 14:40 |
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locusf | 150 is quite good | 14:44 |
Khertan | thp, a crappy alternative could be to extract all python source to a /tmp folder then add it to sys.path :) | 14:45 |
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thp | Khertan: that's crappy, smells of race condition, and might not work on all systems (and it's slow ;) | 14:47 |
Khertan | thp: some point me to pep302, i ll take a look | 14:47 |
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Khertan | thp, i think i ve found how to do it properly, via find_module and load_module and compatible with py > 2.3 ... let me some day and i ll send u a patch | 15:42 |
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thp | Khertan: ok | 17:30 |
sledges | !seen niqt | 17:34 |
Merbot` | sledges: niqt was last seen in #nemomobile 4 days, 7 hours, 19 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <niqt> today silent | 17:34 |
sledges | updated updating %) section: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Updating#Nemo_Wayland | 17:34 |
sledges | could be useful info for niqt Âfor updoing the qmlpackagemanager ^ | 17:35 |
sledges | locusf: once this comes through (/me kicks faenil :D), https://github.com/faenil/NemoWaylandKickstart/pull/5 , you can bake a new image from that final .ks, it will contain PackageKit | 17:36 |
sledges | and after it we could blissfully end this image baking thing | 17:36 |
faenil | sledges, yessir! o/ | 17:36 |
sledges | and have nice update process, with abilities to pull in newly introduces packages | 17:36 |
locusf | sledges: okay | 17:37 |
faenil | merged | 17:38 |
sledges | yuppe, thanks faenil | 17:38 |
sledges | :D | 17:38 |
faenil | np :) | 17:38 |
locusf | thx | 17:39 |
locusf | will do an image now | 17:39 |
locusf | so that will then be integrated to real releases? | 17:39 |
sledges | real releases? | 17:39 |
sledges | :) | 17:39 |
sledges | ;) | 17:39 |
sledges | i think we are quite far from them | 17:39 |
faenil | real releases | 17:39 |
sledges | but would be nice yes to have that ability soonish (people stop asking and we stop baking) | 17:40 |
* faenil giggles | 17:40 | |
sledges | even called bleeding snapshots, would be nice (on releases.nemomobile.org) | 17:40 |
sledges | Sage: ^ | 17:40 |
locusf | yeah | 17:41 |
locusf | I mean snapshots but said real releases :p | 17:42 |
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faenil | bbl | 17:55 |
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NeeDforKill | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWjRqprCYAAH9QV.jpg | 18:06 |
NeeDforKill | looks nice | 18:06 |
locusf | wow | 18:06 |
NeeDforKill | so locusf | 18:09 |
NeeDforKill | how are u? | 18:09 |
locusf | I'm good but buried in my studies | 18:10 |
locusf | metric f-ton of stuff to do | 18:10 |
locusf | qwazix: ping | 18:15 |
locusf | qwazix: do you want a slowed down and enlarged mousearea version of maliit? | 18:15 |
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locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/google-opensans-fonts <- finally | 18:56 |
locusf | thanks w00t | 18:56 |
sledges | locusf: Morpog_PC , faenil, qwazix , check last line of #mer--boss log and ^ lol you were faster | 18:56 |
* sledges otg ;D | 18:56 | |
locusf | lol | 18:57 |
Morpog_PC | yeah! finally :) | 18:58 |
locusf | devel:ux too | 18:59 |
locusf | nice | 18:59 |
Morpog_PC | but your patch is not in yet it seems | 19:02 |
locusf | yeah not yet | 19:02 |
locusf | but will be | 19:02 |
Morpog_PC | btw, the packagekit thing sledges wrote, should I do that on VM too? | 19:03 |
Morpog_PC | I still ownder why I don't have a VKB at all :) | 19:03 |
Morpog_PC | wonder | 19:03 |
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Morpog_PC | ah I just try and if it explodes I blame sledges | 19:04 |
locusf | lol, always a good approach | 19:05 |
Morpog_PC | still no VKB though :( | 19:07 |
Morpog_PC | cutefox is damn smooth | 19:11 |
Morpog_PC | on vm at least | 19:11 |
Morpog_PC | btw if anyone want to play with plymouth bootscreens, here are the need bootlogos for a lot of different resolutions: https://github.com/Morpog/nemo-artwork/tree/master/Boot | 19:12 |
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Morpog_PC | interesting, installing cutefox pulls in hunspell now. I wonder what Jolla does with spell checking in browser. | 19:17 |
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Morpog_PC | lol, they seem to love the shutdownscreen sledges, good tweet :D | 19:57 |
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sledges | thanks Morpog_PC , good screen ;) | 20:43 |
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sledges | oh man so nice with opensans on n9 ;) | 21:49 |
sledges | guys, try updating via `pkcon upgrade-system nemo-n950-wayland complete` | 21:49 |
sledges | see if that will pull opensans and updated lipstick+qt-components | 21:50 |
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Morpog_PC | faenil, QQC examples app now on correct orientation! | 22:06 |
sledges | nice | 22:14 |
sledges | it's all coming back together :) | 22:14 |
Morpog_PC | yeah, nice to see the progress | 22:14 |
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Morpog_PC | hmm, opensans patch seems to be included, but I still don't see it used :( | 22:20 |
sledges | Morpog_PC: is all over the place on my n9 | 22:21 |
Morpog_PC | or no, it's used | 22:21 |
Morpog_PC | but not on homescreen | 22:22 |
sledges | did you update lipstick colorful and qt-components? | 22:22 |
Morpog_PC | sure | 22:22 |
Morpog_PC | it's not used everywhere | 22:22 |
sledges | did you reboot (or `killall lipstick` as root ?) | 22:22 |
Morpog_PC | second do a reboot | 22:22 |
sledges | killall suffices | 22:22 |
Morpog_PC | aaaaah much better :) | 22:22 |
sledges | that was fast | 22:23 |
sledges | :D | 22:23 |
sledges | better indeed ;) | 22:23 |
Morpog_PC | yeah, SSD :) | 22:23 |
sledges | ah | 22:24 |
sledges | vm | 22:24 |
sledges | ;) | 22:24 |
sledges | forgot :D | 22:24 |
Morpog_PC | :D | 22:24 |
sledges | ok, nite now | 22:24 |
Morpog_PC | good night! | 22:24 |
Morpog_PC | calendar seems to use old font though :( | 22:25 |
Morpog_PC | maybe hardcoded | 22:25 |
sledges | so is fingerterm | 22:25 |
Morpog_PC | and dialer | 22:25 |
Morpog_PC | well, they get rewritten :) | 22:25 |
Morpog_PC | for glacier anyway | 22:26 |
sledges | nice, i just managed to turn wifi on, probably there was a sneaky update | 22:26 |
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Morpog_PC | cool | 22:26 |
sledges | couldn't turn wifi on n9 since couple of days | 22:26 |
NeeDforKill | hi guys | 22:27 |
Morpog_PC | hi | 22:27 |
sledges | hi guy | 22:27 |
Morpog_PC | :D | 22:28 |
NeeDforKill | ;D | 22:28 |
NeeDforKill | so | 22:28 |
sledges | :) | 22:28 |
NeeDforKill | want ask | 22:28 |
Morpog_PC | just ask | 22:28 |
NeeDforKill | i thinking about audio quality | 22:28 |
NeeDforKill | so like sledges say it's closed drivers | 22:29 |
sledges | aye | 22:29 |
NeeDforKill | wanted to ask what is the nemo future? | 22:30 |
NeeDforKill | i know about first make components for glacier ui | 22:31 |
Morpog_PC | wayland + qt5 transition + glacierUI | 22:31 |
sledges | NeeDforKill: closed drivers are for N9 | 22:31 |
Morpog_PC | + nemo running on android hw adaptions via libhybris, like Jolla device or Nexus 7 | 22:32 |
NeeDforKill | n950 use another drivers? | 22:32 |
sledges | no, I think it's the same for N950 as well, I simply don't have N950 to test | 22:32 |
NeeDforKill | Do you guys do that would nemo can be used in everyday tasks? | 22:32 |
sledges | nemo on N950/N9 has limitations - audio and camera quality, and no GPS (unless some hackers show up to reverse engineer the GPS chip) | 22:33 |
NeeDforKill | or have a different development plan | 22:33 |
sledges | NeeDforKill: that's the ultimate goal, yes, but we'll switch to Jolla phone soon, to make that finally happen | 22:33 |
sledges | is faster as well (Wayland on N950/N9 is another performance issue due to the same causes) | 22:34 |
Morpog_PC | to get N9 fully running we would need alot more people | 22:34 |
NeeDforKill | u mean to switch to jolla to working on nemo or sailfish? | 22:34 |
Morpog_PC | or alot more time :) | 22:34 |
sledges | nemo | 22:34 |
sledges | sailfish is already worked on ;) | 22:34 |
NeeDforKill | Guys I understand, thank you for your work | 22:35 |
Morpog_PC | I dream of dual booting my Jolla device with SailfishOS and Nemomobile :) | 22:35 |
NeeDforKill | so what audio drivers using nitdroid? | 22:35 |
sledges | NeeDforKill: i don't know, did you test is the phonecall quality good in nitdroid (same as harmattan?) | 22:36 |
Morpog_PC | android ones | 22:36 |
NeeDforKill | yes | 22:36 |
sledges | and does the caller hear you well? | 22:36 |
NeeDforKill | no | 22:36 |
NeeDforKill | mic not working | 22:36 |
sledges | Morpog_PC: nitdroid is on N9 | 22:36 |
NeeDforKill | but music | 22:36 |
NeeDforKill | and phonecall without micro sounds very good | 22:37 |
Morpog_PC | sledges, ah I forgot | 22:37 |
sledges | i wonder where they do reverse libhybris there :D | 22:37 |
NeeDforKill | i can listen my FLAC music on nitdroid | 22:37 |
sledges | music is another driever | 22:37 |
sledges | separate from phonecall | 22:37 |
sledges | NeeDforKill: thanks for confirming | 22:38 |
sledges | i think what used to be bad | 22:38 |
sledges | quality | 22:38 |
sledges | is the mic ;) | 22:38 |
sledges | there definitel was something, sadly i fried my mic while soldering, so cannot test n9 now | 22:38 |
sledges | as in, the caller does not hear you clearly | 22:38 |
sledges | when you speak into mic | 22:39 |
sledges | due to drivers, again, im only 75% confident | 22:39 |
Morpog_PC | sledges, maybe noise cancelation active? | 22:39 |
Morpog_PC | i disabled that on harmattan and quality was alot better then | 22:39 |
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sledges | harmattan phonecall quality for me was flawless oob | 22:40 |
sledges | we just need proper testing instead of speculating :D | 22:40 |
sledges | but with current nemo devel, no-one is putting a simcard in (yet ;)) | 22:40 |
sledges | I'll buy some de-soldering braid soon, maybe can salvage my speakers still | 22:42 |
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NeeDforKill | ((( | 22:44 |
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