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| locusf | NeeDforKill: hi | 07:21 |
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| faenil | locusf, hey | 08:38 |
| faenil | morning guys | 08:38 |
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| Morpog_PC | faenil, why is opensans still only in your repo? :) | 09:29 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, ahm, don't know I remember sledges was publishing it on nemo few days ago | 09:30 |
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| Morpog_PC | so https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/pull/26 could be merged? | 09:30 |
| faenil | anyway it's just a matter of "I'm not sure if it has to be packaged this way, so I'm not publishing it publicly" | 09:30 |
| faenil | nope, if it's not there already :) | 09:31 |
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| Morpog_PC | hmm, can't find it | 09:32 |
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| Morpog_PC | btw, I tried to search for the package that provides the pictures for plymouth | 09:33 |
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| Morpog_PC | https://github.com/nemomobile/plymouth-lite/blob/master/rpm/plymouth-lite.spec#21 | 09:33 |
| Morpog_PC | but I can't find anything called boot-splash-screen | 09:33 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, do you have ssh to VM? | 09:35 |
| Morpog_PC | yep | 09:36 |
| Morpog_PC | I also found that the images are in the plymouth folder | 09:36 |
| Morpog_PC | /usr/share/plymouth | 09:36 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, yeah | 09:37 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, just "rpm -qf /usr/share/plymouth/splash.png" | 09:37 |
| Morpog_PC | aaah :) I'm such a noob :D | 09:37 |
| locusf | faenil: hey | 09:37 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, oh np, we always learn this way :) | 09:38 |
| faenil | locusf, o/ | 09:38 |
| locusf | damn trackpoint and studiess | 09:38 |
| locusf | Morpog_PC: I like your approach better than qwazix's | 09:39 |
| locusf | it makes a separate overlay on top of the keyboard | 09:39 |
| locusf | which is easier to do as the entire keyboard is a big mousearea | 09:39 |
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| Morpog_PC | do ypu like it more because it's easier to do or because it works better? :D | 09:40 |
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| locusf | Morpog_PC: both :) | 09:40 |
| Morpog_PC | seems we need to do some voting then :) | 09:41 |
| Morpog_PC | maybe sledges could have a voice too | 09:41 |
| Morpog_PC | all in all qwazix idea is also only an overlay | 09:42 |
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| locusf | oh | 09:42 |
| locusf | but yours works like this: tap on the dot, the overlay becomes active and can browse text with the arrows, another tap on the middle dot and it goes away? | 09:45 |
| Morpog_PC | nope :) | 09:46 |
| Morpog_PC | it could work like that, but it wasn't meant to work like that | 09:47 |
| faenil | to keep you up to date with page status: currently it rotates but it doesn't animate when it's pushed on the stack | 09:47 |
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| Morpog_PC | ok faenil, now that i know how the package is named and I found it also on OBS, how the hell do I find from which repo it comes from? | 10:00 |
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| faenil | Morpog_PC, paste link | 10:00 |
| faenil | OBS | 10:01 |
| faenil | link | 10:01 |
| Morpog_PC | https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=ce-backgrounds&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Aapps | 10:01 |
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| Morpog_PC | I've looked in all files with no success | 10:02 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, it could be that there not even a repo for it :P | 10:02 |
| Morpog_PC | aah, so I need to poke sage about it? | 10:03 |
| faenil | don't know who's best, but try with some sailors tomorrow | 10:03 |
| Morpog_PC | well, latest revision was commited by him | 10:04 |
| faenil | maybe we'll make a repo for it on github | 10:04 |
| Morpog_PC | well, it's just 2 files inside | 10:04 |
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| faenil | yes I know | 10:05 |
| Morpog_PC | but could be needed if we want to have different background images for different devices/screen sizes | 10:06 |
| Morpog_PC | errr boot images | 10:06 |
| faenil | yep | 10:08 |
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| qwazix | morn! | 10:22 |
| locusf | morn qwazix | 10:23 |
| qwazix | locusf, how's it going? | 10:24 |
| locusf | qwazix: nothing much, studies :p | 10:24 |
| qwazix | :nod: | 10:24 |
| locusf | qwazix: I've taken a look at Morpog_PC's concept of the trackpad and I like it better than yours | 10:24 |
| qwazix | yep I saw | 10:25 |
| qwazix | but what you said was exactly why I wasn't so hot about your approach to the trackpoint. It looks like it's something to tap on. | 10:25 |
| qwazix | but what you said was exactly why I wasn't so hot about Morpog's approach to the trackpoint. It looks like it's something to tap on. | 10:25 |
| qwazix | * | 10:25 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, If I understand locusf he would like to tap on them | 10:26 |
| locusf | yeah | 10:26 |
| qwazix | That's a whole different approach | 10:27 |
| qwazix | the trackpoint target is too small to tap on | 10:27 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, I think he meant my first concept with arrow | 10:27 |
| qwazix | yeah, but how do you bring the arrows up? by tapping on the trackpoint? | 10:28 |
| qwazix | (assuming the arrows are tappable) | 10:29 |
| locusf | yeah thats how I had it figured out | 10:29 |
| qwazix | As I understand it (Morpog_PC correct me if I am wrong) all the mockups are about artwork. The idea is that the cursor moves when you swipe starting from the trackpoint | 10:31 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, yes, that was our Idea. | 10:31 |
| * alterego yawns | 10:31 | |
| qwazix | I'd say let's stick with it, tapping would be too hard with such a small space | 10:32 |
| locusf | there is a problem with that approach, eg. the nemo keyboard is a big mousearea | 10:33 |
| alterego | Anyone here using hybris on anything? | 10:34 |
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| qwazix | locusf, please elaborate | 10:38 |
| qwazix | alterego, not yet (me atleast) | 10:39 |
| alterego | I guess I'll just have to test the new packages myself :S | 10:39 |
| locusf | qwazix: its impossible to know wether the swype began on a key or on the trackpoint area | 10:39 |
| qwazix | can't you get x,y onPressed? | 10:39 |
| locusf | yes but I gotta separate between the two areas | 10:40 |
| locusf | I guess | 10:40 |
| qwazix | Idea: create another mouseArea (m2) below the existing one(m1). On m1 if x,y are around the trackpoint, do mouse.accepted = false so that the event will propagate to m2. Then on m2 handle the gesture | 10:45 |
| qwazix | (it might be able to do the above without the additional MouseArea even) | 10:45 |
| locusf | hmm | 10:46 |
| locusf | its not a bad idea | 10:46 |
| faenil | yeah | 10:48 |
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| Morpog_PC | alterego, I think the chance io find someone using it is higher on #mer | 10:54 |
| Morpog_PC | to | 10:55 |
| alterego | Morpog_PC: fair point | 10:55 |
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| alterego | I should just bite the bullet and make myself an image. | 10:55 |
| Morpog_PC | for which device? | 10:56 |
| alterego | Nexus 7 | 10:56 |
| Morpog_PC | mmmh, lovely :) | 10:56 |
| alterego | Is the only Android device I have currently. | 10:56 |
| Morpog_PC | I got one too | 10:56 |
| alterego | :) | 10:56 |
| alterego | I quite like it, thought not Android so much ;) | 10:56 |
| Morpog_PC | also my only android device | 10:57 |
| Morpog_PC | it reboots quite often | 10:57 |
| alterego | Do you find copy/paste annoying | 10:57 |
| alterego | ? | 10:57 |
| Morpog_PC | yes | 10:57 |
| alterego | You get random reboots? | 10:57 |
| alterego | Mine has never done that. | 10:57 |
| alterego | Running odd firmware or stock? | 10:57 |
| Morpog_PC | sometimes from apps | 10:57 |
| alterego | Hmm, I have one app installed really, and that's an SSH client | 10:58 |
| Morpog_PC | most times when it's loading and i touch the usb plug on device | 10:58 |
| Morpog_PC | chance that it reboots then is 50% | 10:58 |
| Morpog_PC | stock FW and rooted stock FW | 10:58 |
| alterego | Heh, you could use it instead of a coin when making tough decisions? | 10:58 |
| Morpog_PC | lol | 10:58 |
| Morpog_PC | firefox browser and hackers keyboard are some nice apps | 10:59 |
| Morpog_PC | and bluevpn to thether from my N9 | 10:59 |
| alterego | I recommend Juice SSH | 10:59 |
| alterego | I hope it works with Sailfish, it's quite a nice app. | 11:00 |
| Morpog_PC | not sure why I should ssh from nexus 7 to another device | 11:00 |
| alterego | If you know any kids "Light Bot" is quite an addictive game which teaches people basic programming skills :) | 11:00 |
| Morpog_PC | VKB typing kills me on N7 | 11:01 |
| alterego | I've become quite a diva at Vim on the N7 ;) | 11:01 |
| Morpog_PC | well, I'm sure it would teach me some stuff as well :) | 11:01 |
| locusf | how much better is juice vs connectbot? | 11:01 |
| alterego | locusf: I've not used Connect Bot to compare. | 11:02 |
| locusf | ok | 11:02 |
| alterego | The free version of Juice is limited in that you can't setup port forwards. Also no cut&paste is annoting | 11:02 |
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| locusf | wow | 11:03 |
| locusf | thats quite limited | 11:03 |
| locusf | connectbot has both in the free version + mosh support | 11:03 |
| locusf | but thats separate | 11:04 |
| alterego | But I like the connection management. | 11:04 |
| locusf | and it has gestures in irssi | 11:04 |
| alterego | Juice has Mosh support too, even in free version | 11:04 |
| locusf | mosh is one of those software which have the "I wish I had used this before" effect :) | 11:05 |
| alterego | Basically all of my software projects have named screen sessions running on a server. This includes, notes, editors, etc. Relating to a specific thing. So from bed or if I'm out and have an idea, it's handy to login to the server, get the project screen session and add some notes, or maybe fix a small bug or something. | 11:07 |
| alterego | I do it quite a lot. | 11:07 |
| alterego | If I had an Xperia Z, I could even do it from the shower. :p | 11:09 |
| Morpog_PC | lol | 11:10 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, Hurrian, what about http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ for artwork? | 11:10 |
| Hurrian | sure, sounds good. | 11:12 |
| Morpog_PC | yep | 11:12 |
| qwazix | perfect | 11:12 |
| qwazix | (did I forget someone that contributed artwork?) | 11:13 |
| Morpog_PC | for now not, in future sandy_locke | 11:13 |
| Hurrian | qwazix: isn't all the artwork gonna be redone from scratch? | 11:14 |
| sandy_locke | just read the license link | 11:14 |
| sandy_locke | (following discussions while working ;) ) | 11:14 |
| sandy_locke | seems good to me | 11:14 |
| Morpog_PC | I'm going to ask realnorth if he is OK if we put his logo under this license | 11:14 |
| qwazix | Hurrian, specs and stuff are also part of artwork | 11:14 |
| Hurrian | ah | 11:14 |
| Hurrian | oh, yeah, reflashing my N9 atm - had a little accident ;) | 11:14 |
| qwazix | oops :| | 11:15 |
| Hurrian | also, the newest ubiboot seems to be broken, but i'll look into that once I get back onto Open Mode. | 11:15 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, what do we do about the mer logo? | 11:17 |
| qwazix | what about it? | 11:17 |
| Morpog_PC | can't find a license for it | 11:17 |
| Morpog_PC | shallw e add it to nemo artwork? | 11:17 |
| Morpog_PC | also it's included in shutdown and boot screens | 11:18 |
| Morpog_PC | https://github.com/Merproject/artwork | 11:18 |
| sandy_locke | Morpog_PC, if you didn't do it you should put it in a separate place than the nemo artwork I think | 11:18 |
| sandy_locke | Or on the same page but with specific comments | 11:19 |
| Morpog_PC | well, it's included in bottscreens I made | 11:19 |
| Morpog_PC | boot | 11:19 |
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| sandy_locke | Morpog_PC, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mer_Logo.png | 11:20 |
| sandy_locke | copyrighted it seems | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | that's not entirely true.. | 11:22 |
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| Stskeeps | it's Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported License | 11:22 |
| Morpog_PC | thats just great! :) | 11:23 |
| sandy_locke | yup, Stskeeps | 11:23 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, http://wiki.maemo.org/File:Mer_logo_svg.svg | 11:23 |
| sandy_locke | per this page : merproject.org | 11:24 |
| sandy_locke | This work is licensed under CC-BY-SA. | 11:24 |
| qwazix | sorry http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Artwork | 11:24 |
| sandy_locke | http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ | 11:24 |
| Morpog_PC | aaah there | 11:24 |
| Morpog_PC | so I'm gonna add it to nemo-artwork repo and add the license | 11:25 |
| qwazix | ok | 11:30 |
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| locusf | how do I check wether a point exists in a certain component? | 14:30 |
| locusf | hmm probably keyboard.childAt(mouse.x, mouse.y) == trackpad | 14:32 |
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| faenil | locusf, or trackpad.contains(point) | 14:33 |
| faenil | where point is in local coordinates | 14:33 |
| faenil | so you may need mapTo/FromItem | 14:33 |
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| locusf | ah | 14:36 |
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| locusf | hmm a problem, dragging down causes the keyboard to close | 14:40 |
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| faenil | locusf, eheheh | 14:49 |
| locusf | and I can't get my debug statements to show :/ | 14:50 |
| locusf | from maliit qml that is | 14:50 |
| faenil | locusf, try MALIIT_DEBUG=true env var | 14:51 |
| faenil | or something like that | 14:51 |
| faenil | it uses a custom handler for dbg messages iirc | 14:51 |
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| locusf | ok I can move the cursor now | 15:03 |
| qwazix | \o/ | 15:04 |
| locusf | but it doesn't make much sens | 15:06 |
| locusf | +e | 15:06 |
| locusf | its just in relation to the rest of the keyboard | 15:06 |
| locusf | I have yet to propagate to below mousearea | 15:06 |
| locusf | but the concept works | 15:07 |
| qwazix | :nod: | 15:07 |
| faenil | locusf, did the env var work? | 15:08 |
| locusf | faenil: no | 15:08 |
| faenil | locusf, :O | 15:08 |
| faenil | it must work | 15:08 |
| locusf | I even put it to systemd Environment | 15:09 |
| locusf | but no difference | 15:09 |
| locusf | and I can't see the var in framework | 15:09 |
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| faenil | locusf, 1 https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/maliit-framework/blob/48cc17e02714ca1af41507d2dca8947b268ab935/maliit-framework/passthroughserver/main.cpp#L43 | 15:14 |
| faenil | and | 15:14 |
| locusf | faenil: yeah I used * in grep | 15:14 |
| locusf | which didn't work and wasn't necessary | 15:14 |
| faenil | ok | 15:14 |
| locusf | but still, no effect | 15:15 |
| faenil | that env var has to work | 15:15 |
| faenil | have you rebooted? | 15:15 |
| faenil | or restarted maliit-server | 15:15 |
| locusf | no, just restarted maliit-server service | 15:15 |
| faenil | very strange, have you tried echoing the env var in fingerterm | 15:16 |
| faenil | I used debug when I was fixing maliit on wayland | 15:16 |
| locusf | indeed | 15:17 |
| locusf | hmm now the inner mousearea works | 15:21 |
| locusf | but it only goes left :/ | 15:21 |
| locusf | ok now it works as expected | 15:25 |
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| locusf | it has built-in acceleration | 15:26 |
| locusf | though its VERY sensitive | 15:26 |
| qwazix | any way to tone it down? | 15:28 |
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| locusf | https://github.com/locusf/plugins/commit/47baa2923ca5b1445d1dc27d497172700f563ad0 <- this is pretty much how its done | 15:30 |
| locusf | it probably boils down to increasing the * 0.2 values | 15:30 |
| locusf | anybody wanna test this? | 15:31 |
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| qwazix | I still have to set up my N950 to use wayland... | 15:33 |
| locusf | ok removed the coefficients, its definately slower now | 15:36 |
| locusf | faenil: do you have time to try it out? | 15:39 |
| faenil | locusf, later? I'm still working on page atm | 15:39 |
| locusf | faenil: sure | 15:40 |
| locusf | I'll put it to dropbox now | 15:40 |
| faenil | locusf, if you give me the package I will test right now ;) | 15:40 |
| faenil | ok | 15:40 |
| locusf | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/286182/maliit-plugins-0.99.0-1.armv7hl.rpm | 15:40 |
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| sledges | ahoj! \o | 15:44 |
| locusf | hey sledges | 15:44 |
| sledges | nothing like having dinner and reading backlog :) | 15:44 |
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| sledges | locusf: any latest n9-950 wayland images? ;) | 15:46 |
| locusf | sledges: not right now, do you want one? | 15:46 |
| sledges | yes, im about to build one anyway | 15:47 |
| sledges | want to work on patterns a bit | 15:47 |
| qwazix | is this still applicable https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N9-N950/Wayland ? | 15:47 |
| locusf | quite old image | 15:47 |
| sledges | qwazix: no, there's a kickstart file now | 15:47 |
| locusf | from august | 15:47 |
| qwazix | sledges, because I already have nemo installed, I was hoping I wouln't need to start from scratch | 15:48 |
| locusf | hmm again, its been 2 weeks since last image | 15:48 |
| locusf | qwazix: do you want bleeding edge? | 15:49 |
| qwazix | locusf, yep | 15:49 |
| sledges | qwazix: you will need to reflash, but with `sudo rsync -rlpgo --delete unpacked-nemo-wayland-image/ /run/media/username/Alt_OS/` it's least intrusive | 15:49 |
| qwazix | sledges, :nod: | 15:50 |
| locusf | I've got an image from 28.9.2013 | 15:51 |
| sledges | yes please locusf | 15:51 |
| * sledges will flash n9 finally soon!!! \o/ | 15:52 | |
| qwazix | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/qptxygocugtozk1/nemo-n950-rnd-20130928.tar.bz2 | 15:52 |
| locusf | yes thats it | 15:53 |
| qwazix | is there a reason not to flash moslo on the N9? The wiki is being vague | 15:53 |
| locusf | I'm making one now, upload takes about 20-30 mins | 15:53 |
| qwazix | locusf, I'll wait | 15:53 |
| locusf | hmm I've got 5 PR's open | 15:54 |
| locusf | do you guys want opensans as well? | 15:54 |
| locusf | for lipstick-colorful-home and qt-components? | 15:54 |
| locusf | ah you need the fonts too from faenils repo | 15:55 |
| locusf | so lets forget that | 15:55 |
| sledges | i'll push opensans in soon, need to set priorities :D | 15:55 |
| locusf | sledges: good | 15:56 |
| locusf | fixed them PR's to be saner, no need for QFontDatabase now | 16:00 |
| sledges | locusf: sadly i haven't got permissions to nemomobile-packages | 16:09 |
| sledges | so we'll have to wait for w00t | 16:09 |
| locusf | okay | 16:09 |
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| sledges | i could push package to nemo:ux from faenil's repo | 16:10 |
| locusf | get it while its hot: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/l6bl3uiv85pw2kc/nemo-n950-rnd-20131310.tar.bz2 | 16:11 |
| sledges | and if some packaging is wrong,we'll readjust it, and for now we could close one eye ;) | 16:12 |
| faenil | sorry, family call :) | 16:15 |
| locusf | updated wiki page too | 16:17 |
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| faenil | locusf, kind of works ;) | 16:18 |
| locusf | yep, kinda is close enough for now :) | 16:19 |
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| faenil | locusf, I noticed it keeps going back even if I've changed direction to forward | 16:19 |
| faenil | also, it's way too fast :D | 16:20 |
| locusf | faenil: yeah noticed that too | 16:23 |
| locusf | you should have seen how fast with * 0.2 | 16:23 |
| faenil | locusf, but it's nice to see it working, I like the concept :) | 16:23 |
| faenil | and that damn cursor flashes so it's hard to keep track of it.. | 16:26 |
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| faenil | awesome to see iekku back on stage \o/ Nemo bug triage tomorrow! | 16:38 |
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| iekku | :) | 16:44 |
| locusf | faenil: me too, I'm adding some additional circles to help the user determine if he/she is going right or left or up or down | 16:45 |
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| faenil | freaking orientation, pagestack, pages, whatever :D | 16:55 |
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| Morpog_Mobile | Wasn`t it you who praised the joy of developing components faenil? :D | 17:01 |
| faenil | Morpog_Mobile, it's lots of fun, it just takes time :D | 17:02 |
| faenil | and patience :D | 17:02 |
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| qwazix | faenil, is the fn key (diagonal arrow) on N950 keyboard supposed to work on wayland image? | 17:07 |
| faenil | of course not :) | 17:07 |
| zbenjamin | i think my n9 just died .... | 17:07 |
| faenil | ah, do you want to write all the key mappings for that? :D | 17:07 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, woot :( | 17:08 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, don't worry, you can't kill it, what's the problem :) | 17:08 |
| zbenjamin | not reacting, maybe its empty but it was on USB all the time ... | 17:08 |
| qwazix | faenil, where should those be? | 17:08 |
| faenil | qwazix, I was about to take of that but it was boring so I left it like it is :P you have to take keymappings from x11 n950 configs and using a binary which converts those to qpm (or something like that) which is the format used in our case | 17:09 |
| faenil | and there was a middle step in which you had to convert it to another format before qpm... | 17:09 |
| faenil | but I don't remember | 17:09 |
| faenil | but anyway, the thing is: take x11 keymappings and convert those to the format we're using right now :) | 17:10 |
| faenil | qwazix, then there is an env var which Qt reads, and you set the path of the converted file in that env var | 17:11 |
| zbenjamin | wtf it just came back out of nothing.... i swear screen was black all the time, no bootscreen, next time i'll try ssh first :/ | 17:11 |
| qwazix | faenil, :nod: | 17:11 |
| qwazix | also I can't click the wifi switch | 17:12 |
| qwazix | ah yeah, | 17:12 |
| qwazix | after enough poking I made it | 17:12 |
| qwazix | the vkb animation is painfully slow... | 17:13 |
| faenil | like that? ;) | 17:13 |
| faenil | welcome to our world :D | 17:13 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: shouldn't you be studying? ;) | 17:13 |
| * faenil giggles | 17:13 | |
| locusf | I should be too but Nemo is too much fun | 17:15 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, see? ^ | 17:16 |
| * faenil highfives locusf | 17:16 | |
| * locusf highfives faenil back | 17:16 | |
| faenil | qwazix, ah, found it finally | 17:17 |
| faenil | qwazix, so do you want to fix keyboard? | 17:17 |
| qwazix | I can try | 17:18 |
| locusf | faenil: I've got it slowed down with a timer | 17:18 |
| faenil | qwazix, I think more or less all you need is here QT_QPA_EVDEV_KEYBOARD_PARAMETERS | 17:18 |
| faenil | qwazix, and this http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/19912 | 17:19 |
| faenil | and some more from google, once you know the env var :) | 17:19 |
| qwazix | fingerterm rotates | 17:19 |
| qwazix | constantly :P | 17:19 |
| faenil | qwazix, constantly? XD | 17:20 |
| qwazix | yeah, it just rotates by itself (or it is too sensitive) | 17:20 |
| faenil | qwazix, ouch | 17:20 |
| qwazix | (and lags at that :( ) | 17:21 |
| faenil | qwazix, yeah well performance is bad | 17:22 |
| faenil | qwazix, w00t suggested using apitrace to see what's going wrong there | 17:22 |
| faenil | qwazix, also, what you're seeing now is definitely better than what it was like 2-3weeks ago | 17:22 |
| faenil | I guess optimizations made by sailors helped that | 17:23 |
| faenil | as a sideeffect | 17:23 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Strange, on vm it's very fast | 17:23 |
| faenil | Morpog_Mobile, eh :P | 17:23 |
| qwazix | :'-( I want my X11 back | 17:24 |
| faenil | core i5 under your bottom? | 17:24 |
| faenil | qwazix, stop acting like a girl, we need men here! :P | 17:24 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Yep :) | 17:24 |
| faenil | help us get x11 performance back! :P | 17:24 |
| qwazix | lol | 17:24 |
| faenil | Stskeeps could help as well :P | 17:24 |
| faenil | qwazix, but yeah, I can see in your eyes the old faenil who thought moving to wayland would have brought better performance for free :( | 17:26 |
| qwazix | :nod: | 17:26 |
| qwazix | at least not so much worst | 17:27 |
| qwazix | btw, how do I install locusf's maliit? | 17:27 |
| qwazix | rpm says conflicts | 17:27 |
| faenil | zypper install --force URL | 17:27 |
| Morpog_Mobile | O was still under that impfession, damn i5 tricked me | 17:27 |
| qwazix | can URL be local? | 17:28 |
| faenil | qwazix, sure | 17:28 |
| faenil | qwazix, anyway, no fingerterm rotation issue here, let me know if you can reproduce it | 17:28 |
| qwazix | ty | 17:28 |
| faenil | np | 17:28 |
| qwazix | yeah every time I open the keyboard, fingerterm rotates to portrait | 17:29 |
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| faenil | open the keyboard? | 17:29 |
| qwazix | the hardware keyboard | 17:29 |
| faenil | ahhhh | 17:29 |
| qwazix | I think that when the device is horizontal (as in lying on the table) it thinks it should rotate to portrait | 17:30 |
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| faenil | yes I was about to write the same | 17:31 |
| qwazix | so when using the keyboard the device is almost horisontal but not really so it constantly changes orientation | 17:31 |
| faenil | zbenjamin may know why ;) | 17:31 |
| faenil | qwazix, yeah | 17:31 |
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| qwazix | how do I restart maliit? | 17:32 |
| faenil | su | 17:32 |
| faenil | systemctl restart maliit-server.service | 17:32 |
| faenil | maybe systemctl-user, try it if first fails | 17:32 |
| qwazix | nah, failed to load (both server and user) | 17:33 |
| qwazix | I'll reboot | 17:34 |
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| locusf | qwazix: DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/100000/dbus/user_bus_socket systemctl --user restart maliit-server.service | 17:35 |
| faenil | failed to laod isn't a good sign, but okay | 17:35 |
| faenil | ah ok, yeah | 17:35 |
| faenil | freaking dbus address if you're doing it from SSH | 17:35 |
| qwazix | locusf, thanks but already rebooted | 17:37 |
| qwazix | looks good. We still need to make it recognize taps, and only move the cursor if it's a swipe. | 17:38 |
| qwazix | And like faenil said, it's too fast | 17:38 |
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| faenil | recognize taps? | 17:38 |
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| qwazix | faenil, I didn't say it correctly | 17:39 |
| qwazix | the trackpoint must not interfere with taps | 17:39 |
| qwazix | only if a swipe is started over it it should start doing it's thing | 17:39 |
| faenil | and now it doesn't | 17:40 |
| faenil | ? | 17:40 |
| qwazix | I think it doesn't. We have to make the area a bit bigger and then it'll be clear | 17:41 |
| qwazix | also, that left right thing is because we're comparing with the starting position and not with the previous one | 17:41 |
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| qwazix | If you start going the other direction, even if you are on the left of the trackpoint it should go right. | 17:42 |
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| locusf | ah so thats it ! | 17:45 |
| locusf | now the other thing is to make it happen in QML | 17:47 |
| locusf | qwazix: I can give you the slower version rpm too | 17:47 |
| qwazix | locusf, please do | 17:48 |
| locusf | qwazix: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/286182/maliit-plugins-0.99.0-1.armv7hl.rpm | 17:48 |
| locusf | the same url essentially :) | 17:48 |
| locusf | I'll also make it larger | 17:49 |
| qwazix | at least the real keyboard is now fully lit (there's an improvement) | 17:50 |
| locusf | hmm that didn't work at all, the previous setting of X + y | 17:55 |
| qwazix | it might be too close | 17:55 |
| qwazix | maybe you can wait until you get a difference of say 20pixels and then trigger the keypress | 17:56 |
| zbenjamin | i know what? | 17:57 |
| qwazix | so that when the user does not move his finger, the cursor stays put | 17:57 |
| qwazix | zbenjamin, when device is flat, it thinks it should go to portrait | 17:57 |
| qwazix | (flat as lying on a table) | 17:57 |
| qwazix | so it's impossible to use N950 with keyboard open | 17:58 |
| zbenjamin | qwazix: because then its setting PrimaryOrientation | 17:58 |
| locusf | qwazix: do you want the bigger version too? | 17:58 |
| zbenjamin | and PrimaryOrientation seems to be portrait then ;) | 17:59 |
| zbenjamin | maybe opening the hardware keyboard should force landscape | 17:59 |
| qwazix | locusf, yep | 18:01 |
| sledges | Morpog_Mobile: commented on your PR | 18:01 |
| locusf | qwazix: same url | 18:01 |
| qwazix | zbenjamin, yep too | 18:01 |
| qwazix | ok | 18:01 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: does the lipstick desktop have its own rotation handling? | 18:02 |
| zbenjamin | or is it using components? | 18:02 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, we already talked about this :P told you that I don't know if it has something special | 18:03 |
| faenil | it uses qtcomponents so it should behave as qtcomponents apps | 18:03 |
| faenil | but I don't know if the fact that it has a special window in compositor affects that | 18:03 |
| faenil | this said, bbl people | 18:03 |
| zbenjamin | ah yes i assumed it does not get the event | 18:03 |
| locusf | bye faenil | 18:04 |
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| zbenjamin | sorry ;) | 18:04 |
| zbenjamin | cya | 18:04 |
| faenil | could be that those special compositor window don't get the event | 18:04 |
| sledges | ciao | 18:04 |
| faenil | I don't know, try asking sailors tomorrow ;) | 18:04 |
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| faenil | bbl | 18:04 |
| special | the compositor doesn't have a window. | 18:04 |
| special | it exists above the concept of windows | 18:04 |
| faenil | special, the homescreen I meants | 18:04 |
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| faenil | special, it has direct rendering etc | 18:04 |
| special | at least, windows in the wayland sense | 18:04 |
| faenil | special, isn't homescreen's window special? | 18:05 |
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| faenil | anyway gtg, bbl | 18:05 |
| special | if by "window" we mean QQuickWindow, the homescreen's is an eglfs window; for everything else, it's a wayland window | 18:05 |
| faenil | special, yes, so that could be a reason why it doesn't rotate like normal qtcomponents apps | 18:06 |
| special | so if you're expecting a wayland event telling you the orientation, you won't get it | 18:06 |
| qwazix | locusf, I think we need bigger touch area without bigger nipple (might need an additional transparent element there) | 18:06 |
| faenil | that was my reasoning | 18:06 |
| faenil | special, ok great, zbenjamin | 18:06 |
| Morpog_PC | sledges, those tags? how do I know them? | 18:06 |
| faenil | special, so how are we suppsed to rotate that :( | 18:06 |
| special | lipstick sends the orientation events to other windows? | 18:06 |
| faenil | yes | 18:07 |
| locusf | qwazix: ok | 18:07 |
| faenil | normal apps rotates (now) | 18:07 |
| faenil | after you setUpdateOrientationMask | 18:07 |
| special | have it specially signal it to the homescreen/compositor as well | 18:07 |
| faenil | ok,special handling | 18:07 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, ^ | 18:07 |
| faenil | really gtg, bbl | 18:07 |
| faenil | thanks special :) | 18:07 |
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| sledges | morpog, put anything you like | 18:12 |
| Morpog_PC | sledges, hope that was right | 18:12 |
| sledges | Morpog_PC: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Development#Changelogs | 18:13 |
| sledges | Morpog_PC: now time has gone and you had to re-merge | 18:14 |
| sledges | but that creates more commits | 18:14 |
| Morpog_PC | so that was ok? | 18:15 |
| sledges | well I'd rather you rebase them on top | 18:16 |
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| sledges | and have 1 commit in PR | 18:16 |
| sledges | (especially now it's only one word change) | 18:16 |
| Morpog_PC | so revert both commits | 18:16 |
| Morpog_PC | ? | 18:16 |
| sledges | yes please | 18:16 |
| sledges | and re-push anew | 18:16 |
| sledges | use the --force :) | 18:17 |
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| NeeDforKill | hi guys | 18:21 |
| sledges | heya! | 18:21 |
| NeeDforKill | how it's gone guys | 18:24 |
| sledges | fast :) (the weekend) | 18:25 |
| locusf | all good, new image and maliit trackpoint done | 18:25 |
| Morpog_PC | wtf, I must be too dumb sledges | 18:26 |
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| sledges | :)) Morpog_PC you'd be surprised how long i've (still) been suffering with git trickeries | 18:26 |
| NeeDforKill | love u locusf with ur images :D | 18:27 |
| locusf | lol | 18:27 |
| NeeDforKill | no homo :D | 18:27 |
| NeeDforKill | so for wayland image zypper working? | 18:28 |
| locusf | ? | 18:28 |
| locusf | zypper duo? | 18:29 |
| locusf | *dup | 18:29 |
| NeeDforKill | i mean possible to update this nemo image | 18:29 |
| NeeDforKill | via zypper dup | 18:29 |
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| locusf | yes | 18:33 |
| sledges | NeeDforKill: https://twitter.com/faenil/status/385024930724605952 | 18:33 |
| Morpog_PC | sledges, I think I mastered it :) | 18:33 |
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| * qwazix waves | 18:36 | |
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| sledges | yes you did! \o/ | 18:37 |
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| Morpog_PC | yeah! | 18:38 |
| sledges | Morpog_PC: still not good :D and that's my fault I overlooked it | 18:41 |
| sledges | it has to go to the qt5 branch | 18:41 |
| sledges | rePR please :D | 18:41 |
| Morpog_PC | revert? | 18:41 |
| sledges | git checkout qt5 | 18:42 |
| sledges | and just make a new commit/PR | 18:42 |
| sledges | can't be reverted anymore :) | 18:42 |
| Morpog_PC | hmm, so no fix for it? | 18:42 |
| Morpog_PC | or we just ignore old Qt4 branch? :) | 18:43 |
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| sledges | the old qt branch i will revert myself | 18:44 |
| sledges | (clean up the mess :D) | 18:44 |
| sledges | and you push into qt5 | 18:45 |
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| Morpog_PC | ok done | 18:51 |
| Morpog_PC | so did locusf and giucam also PR to wrong branch? | 18:52 |
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| Morpog_PC | just out of interes | 18:52 |
| Morpog_PC | t | 18:52 |
| sledges | Morpog_PC: nope: locusf wants to merge 1 commit into nemomobile:qt5 from locusf:qt5 | 18:54 |
| Morpog_PC | strange that website doesn't shot it | 18:54 |
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| sledges | https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/pull/26 | 18:54 |
| Morpog_PC | only on my PR it shows the Qt5 branch | 18:54 |
| Morpog_PC | ah tehre it's shown | 18:55 |
| Morpog_PC | strange | 18:55 |
| Morpog_PC | github eats my brain | 18:56 |
| faenil | back | 18:56 |
| Morpog_PC | thx for merging sledges and your patience ;) | 18:57 |
| sledges | np, we all improve bit by bit everytime | 18:58 |
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| NeeDforKill | hey faenil | 19:04 |
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| faenil | NeeDforKill, hey | 19:04 |
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| NeeDforKill | what now working in nemo wayland | 19:18 |
| faenil | locusf added a preliminary version of trackpad to move cursor in text boxes | 19:19 |
| NeeDforKill | i mean | 19:24 |
| NeeDforKill | call,sms,ringtones,wifi? | 19:25 |
| Morpog_Mobile_ | Check nemo wiki | 19:25 |
| NeeDforKill | u need update wiki | 19:26 |
| * sledges rushes to update orientation from N to Y (not 100% :D)) | 19:26 | |
| NeeDforKill | SMS Partial Maliit is broken so sending is difficult, receiving works ok though. | 19:26 |
| sledges | :D | 19:26 |
| NeeDforKill | so now maliit working | 19:26 |
| NeeDforKill | Voice calls Works Works ok in wayland, both calling and receiving calls. | 19:26 |
| NeeDforKill | okay calls | 19:26 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill, flash nemo and help us keep wiki updated ;) | 19:26 |
| NeeDforKill | so how it working, app Dialler | 19:26 |
| NeeDforKill | or i need use terminal | 19:27 |
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| faenil | app dialer | 19:27 |
| NeeDforKill | niec | 19:27 |
| NeeDforKill | nice& | 19:27 |
| NeeDforKill | * | 19:27 |
| faenil | but all the apps will be rewritten once components are finished | 19:27 |
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| faenil | the ui of apps is old right now | 19:27 |
| NeeDforKill | y, glaicer components? | 19:27 |
| Morpog_Mobile_ | Ui of everything beside vkb is old | 19:28 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill, yes, glacier | 19:28 |
| NeeDforKill | okay tonight i try to flash nemo | 19:28 |
| faenil | great, let us know if we can help you | 19:28 |
| faenil | and don't expect a daily usable system | 19:28 |
| NeeDforKill | yeah | 19:28 |
| faenil | it's slow at the moment, performance is bad, and lots of things are missing | 19:28 |
| Morpog_Mobile_ | Use the image from today | 19:28 |
| faenil | signal, battery indicator, etc | 19:28 |
| NeeDforKill | https://www.dropbox.com/s/l6bl3uiv85pw2kc/nemo-n950-rnd-20131310.tar.bz2 | 19:29 |
| NeeDforKill | ? | 19:29 |
| faenil | yes | 19:29 |
| NeeDforKill | okay my old question | 19:29 |
| NeeDforKill | https://raw.github.com/ruedigergad/nemo-n9-blobs/master/zImage-kernel-moslo-n9 | 19:30 |
| NeeDforKill | this kernel | 19:30 |
| NeeDforKill | if i install on n9 openmode kernel | 19:30 |
| NeeDforKill | then install this kernel | 19:30 |
| NeeDforKill | load phone take green text | 19:31 |
| NeeDforKill | it try to make dualboot | 19:31 |
| NeeDforKill | this kernel copy | 19:31 |
| NeeDforKill | openmode kernel | 19:31 |
| NeeDforKill | how u guys think | 19:31 |
| NeeDforKill | dualboot will be worki | 19:31 |
| NeeDforKill | work* | 19:32 |
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| faenil | don't know, can't help with n9, dualboot works on n950 following instructions on wiki | 19:32 |
| faenil | I remember n9 is a bit different regarding dualboot, but I know people have dual boot working | 19:32 |
| sledges | NeeDforKill: https://github.com/ruedigergad/nemo-n9-blobs/blob/master/README.md | 19:32 |
| sledges | that kernel is open mode | 19:32 |
| sledges | and im about to try ubiboot now | 19:32 |
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| NeeDforKill | for ubiboot i must change some text | 19:34 |
| faenil | yes | 19:34 |
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| faenil | quiet? :) | 20:56 |
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| sledges | still ubibooting | 21:10 |
| sledges | nothing like spending the sunday night | 21:11 |
| sledges | :D | 21:11 |
| faenil | :) | 21:11 |
| faenil | I'm fighting against binding loops :D | 21:11 |
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| sledges | as in mount --bind? :D | 21:21 |
| faenil | nope xD | 21:22 |
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| sledges | hmmmmm | 21:31 |
| sledges | Devicelock ON: cannot flash unsigned image | 21:31 |
| sledges | (N9) | 21:32 |
| faenil | woops | 21:36 |
| sledges | will need to hunt for the fiasco that matches the one inside i guess | 21:40 |
| sledges | but how to telÅÅl which one? | 21:40 |
| sledges | (orig n9 from australia, reflashed with european one, now central europe fiasco says device lock bad) | 21:41 |
| sledges | will try north europe tomorrow, with extra 2G free on hdd :D | 21:41 |
| NeeDforKill | faenil | 21:47 |
| NeeDforKill | do i need | 21:47 |
| NeeDforKill | original instructions? | 21:47 |
| NeeDforKill | ssu rr wayland | 21:47 |
| NeeDforKill | ssu ur | 21:47 |
| NeeDforKill | zypper ref -f 1 | 21:47 |
| NeeDforKill | zypper ref -f 2 # updates both the adaptation repos | 21:47 |
| NeeDforKill | zypper dup # should offer to upgrade ti-omap3-sgx and install ti-omap3-sgx-wayland-wsegl | 21:47 |
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| sledges | NeeDforKill: no you don't need them | 21:57 |
| sledges | just follow what's on twitter i posted you earlier | 21:58 |
| NeeDforKill | Okay last question pls | 21:58 |
| NeeDforKill | notification for calls working? | 21:58 |
| * sledges doesn't know, installing wayland now myself | 21:58 | |
| NeeDforKill | thank u | 21:59 |
| NeeDforKill | sorry for my questions | 21:59 |
| sledges | there are no sorry questions ;) don't worry | 22:00 |
| sledges | ok, booting wayland now ;) | 22:01 |
| NeeDforKill | check for me pls call natification | 22:01 |
| sledges | ok | 22:02 |
| sledges | NeeDforKill: | 22:04 |
| sledges | there is ringtone | 22:04 |
| sledges | and vibra | 22:05 |
| sledges | and yes | 22:05 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Update wiki? :D | 22:05 |
| sledges | there is notification about missed call | 22:05 |
| sledges | but | 22:07 |
| sledges | speakers are mute :D | 22:07 |
| NeeDforKill | so we can't talk | 22:08 |
| NeeDforKill | ? | 22:08 |
| sledges | i couldn't | 22:08 |
| sledges | need to wait for speakers' fix | 22:08 |
| sledges | to be able to talk | 22:08 |
| NeeDforKill | okay thank u | 22:08 |
| NeeDforKill | mb tonight making ubiboot | 22:08 |
| sledges | but since it's a smartphone, it's not so important :D | 22:08 |
| Morpog_Mobile | I thought that worked already | 22:09 |
| sledges | Morpog_Mobile: regression? | 22:09 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Hmm | 22:09 |
| sledges | also i fried my earpiece :( but mic still works in harmattan (not in nemo wayland though) | 22:09 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Ah, so earpiece maybe works | 22:09 |
| sledges | yea well ;) | 22:10 |
| Morpog_Mobile | sledges get a new housing, it's included | 22:10 |
| NeeDforKill | so how much guys working on nemo? | 22:10 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Depends on area | 22:11 |
| sledges | Morpog_Mobile: housing? | 22:11 |
| Morpog_Mobile | N9 housing | 22:11 |
| sledges | earpiece is on mb | 22:12 |
| NeeDforKill | need install vmware | 22:12 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Sure? | 22:12 |
| sledges | yes | 22:12 |
| NeeDforKill | or virtual box better? | 22:12 |
| sledges | and i fried even more than that | 22:12 |
| sledges | as headphones also don't work | 22:12 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Wait a sec, got 2 housings in my desk | 22:12 |
| sledges | i got one in a box | 22:12 |
| sledges | earpiece is under cutout shaped __ and is above nokia logo | 22:13 |
| sledges | is on mb | 22:13 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Yes you are right | 22:14 |
| sledges | i pointed the heatgun to reflow the new usb port, and apparently fried audio components | 22:14 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Speaker was on housing | 22:14 |
| sledges | or shorted them during first experiments only with soldering iron ;) | 22:14 |
| sledges | but we will never have 100% audio quality on n9 nemo iirc as opposed to harmattan's closed Nokia/OMAP audio driver blobs | 22:15 |
| sledges | so will be using the phone for UX wayland tests | 22:15 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Real target will be our jolla on sd card :) | 22:16 |
| sledges | yup | 22:16 |
| Morpog_Mobile | And maybe my n7 sometime | 22:17 |
| NeeDforKill | what u mean 100% audio quality | 22:17 |
| NeeDforKill | when u speak | 22:17 |
| NeeDforKill | or sound? | 22:17 |
| NeeDforKill | mic* | 22:18 |
| NeeDforKill | in nitdroid only mic not working | 22:18 |
| NeeDforKill | volume good quality good | 22:18 |
| sledges | can't remember correctly, but nemo always was inferior to phonecall talk quality | 22:18 |
| sledges | harmattan had it tweaked right | 22:19 |
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| NeeDforKill | so why u can't take it from n9tweaker | 22:20 |
| NeeDforKill | from audio boost | 22:20 |
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| sledges | it had it tweaked through low level closed source drivers | 22:30 |
| sledges | which are not available in nemo | 22:30 |
| sledges | it wasn't about only volume levels | 22:30 |
| sledges | that's all i remember | 22:30 |
| sledges | Sage: ^ ? ;) | 22:31 |
| sledges | i could be wrong, and i hope it's simply-tweakable, but never know until you try | 22:32 |
| sledges | i remember it as of the time of writing X11 status (long long time ago) so https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Status/Matrix | 22:33 |
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| sledges | nite | 22:56 |
| faenil | sledges, nite | 23:01 |
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