faenil | :/ do you really want to handle that? | 00:00 |
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qwazix | or we create a new property columnInLandscape: true/false | 00:00 |
faenil | and side scrolling in landscape? | 00:01 |
qwazix | okay, let's do the simple edition first, and we see later if there is a point of doing column levels | 00:01 |
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qwazix | yes sidescrolling | 00:01 |
faenil | :/ | 00:02 |
faenil | ok | 00:02 |
faenil | qwazix, thanks for the specs though ;) | 00:02 |
qwazix | np! thanks for the deeply thought comments. Invaluable | 00:03 |
faenil | :) | 00:03 |
qwazix | I still think we have very much space in the dock and scrolling will be needed in really extreme cases | 00:03 |
faenil | qwazix, I still would like to hear how silica does it for pulley menu | 00:04 |
qwazix | yeah, good question | 00:04 |
faenil | I didn't find any limit by skimming through the qml code | 00:04 |
qwazix | we can anyway forget page5 for now and leave it for Glacier 1.1 as it is more important to do more controls than capture all edge cases. I will still leave it there in the spec, but lets keep it simple for now | 00:06 |
faenil | my opinion is providing column level is something we shouldn't encourage | 00:06 |
faenil | if the extreme dev wants to do that, he'll handle it all b himself | 00:06 |
faenil | but that's just my opinion | 00:06 |
faenil | we either limit the layout of the levels by providing something that works for both portrait and landscape | 00:07 |
faenil | or fix it to rows both in portr/landscape | 00:07 |
qwazix | that's an approach too. Let's fix it to rows for now. | 00:08 |
faenil | yeah I'll do rows | 00:08 |
faenil | we'll look into the rest later | 00:08 |
qwazix | please download again, I removed that clipping reference http://play.qwazix.com/shared/header.pdf | 00:08 |
faenil | qwazix, oki | 00:08 |
faenil | also one thing before I forget | 00:09 |
qwazix | I will push to the repo soon anyway, I just wanted your input before I did | 00:09 |
faenil | let's suppose you have a paint application | 00:09 |
faenil | the kid has a page he can scratch on | 00:09 |
faenil | now you open header and kbd | 00:09 |
faenil | the page becomes 20px high (more or less :P ) | 00:09 |
faenil | what happens to the drawing of the kid? | 00:09 |
faenil | (when he sets stuff back into closed position) | 00:10 |
qwazix | the same thing that would happen if he just opened the keyboard | 00:10 |
faenil | yeah, which is? | 00:11 |
qwazix | especially for paint apps where scrolling isn't possible there should be another way to move the canvas (two finger drag for example) | 00:11 |
qwazix | (that's how samsung does it) | 00:11 |
faenil | yeah | 00:12 |
qwazix | or a grab tool | 00:12 |
faenil | but what happens if the canvas is extremely expensive to draw? | 00:12 |
faenil | you get nice lags while opening the drawer | 00:12 |
faenil | while closing, actually | 00:12 |
qwazix | can't you just cover it and leave it in memory? | 00:13 |
faenil | and that's why the keyboard doesn't animate up, it just sets the height of the page all at once | 00:13 |
faenil | qwazix, that's not for you to decide | 00:13 |
qwazix | It seems to me that it does animate | 00:14 |
faenil | are you sure? | 00:15 |
faenil | I'm quite sure it does not | 00:15 |
faenil | it animates from bottom | 00:15 |
faenil | but the page is resized already | 00:15 |
faenil | to a fixed height | 00:15 |
faenil | just the keyboard animates into the black rectangle which has been left for it | 00:15 |
qwazix | ok, probably I was just testing in notes, where page resize is not visible | 00:15 |
qwazix | on BB10 it animates over the window | 00:16 |
faenil | yep, different solution | 00:16 |
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qwazix | I guess we'll have to try and see? | 00:17 |
faenil | yeah...we have to waste time and see :P | 00:18 |
faenil | not many options unfortunately | 00:18 |
qwazix | we can just implement the resizing only and try, we don't have to do it all | 00:18 |
faenil | and we need an app which exploits that behaviour... | 00:18 |
faenil | anyway, I'll be going to be it's damn late :) | 00:19 |
qwazix | yeah me too | 00:19 |
faenil | nice, see you tomorrow guys | 00:19 |
qwazix | o/ | 00:19 |
faenil | nice chat* | 00:19 |
faenil | o/ | 00:19 |
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alterego | Hmm, 3am already .. | 01:57 |
alterego | Eek | 01:57 |
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locusf | qwazix: I don't know that much about maliit but I think the idea is great | 08:43 |
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rantom | Regarding this: https://twitter.com/NemoMobile/status/388657656493117440 | 08:57 |
locusf | you also need to update fingerterm :) | 08:58 |
rantom | I only get a "package not found" | 08:58 |
rantom | And same for updates, none available | 08:58 |
locusf | hmm interesting | 08:58 |
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rantom | There is though "sensorfw-qt" in Packages, under System. (version 0.7.2.8-1.1.4) | 09:07 |
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rantom | s/qt/qt5/ | 09:07 |
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rantom | And "sensorfw-qt5-configs" | 09:08 |
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locusf | which version of nemo are you using? | 09:09 |
locusf | also can you check with zypper lr if you have nemo:devel:mw repository enabled? | 09:10 |
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rantom | locusf: No nemo:devel:mw enabled nor installed | 09:11 |
rantom | That "might" explain it :) | 09:11 |
locusf | rantom: ok | 09:11 |
locusf | heheh :) | 09:11 |
locusf | zypper ar http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/mw/latest_armv7hl/nemo:devel:mw.repo | 09:12 |
locusf | that should do it | 09:12 |
rantom | Just the basics, adaptation0 & 1, mer-core and nemo-platform | 09:12 |
locusf | then you gotta be sure to zypper install fingerterm, do not do zypper dup | 09:13 |
locusf | or should you | 09:13 |
locusf | hm.. | 09:13 |
locusf | I don't remember wether its safe now | 09:13 |
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rantom | If you're talking about the blackscreen it was fixed | 09:13 |
rantom | This: https://twitter.com/sledgeSim/status/387271148762718208 | 09:15 |
rantom | locusf: Also: regular N950 image, not Wayland | 09:17 |
locusf | rantom: ok then it might not work | 09:18 |
rantom | 113 updates available though now | 09:19 |
rantom | Yeah, going to remove the repository since I can't find it from the Wiki | 09:24 |
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rantom | Are most of the tweets posted to @NemoMobile for dev? | 09:31 |
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zbenjamin | rantom: if you do a update don't forget this: https://twitter.com/faenil/status/385024930724605952 | 10:18 |
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rantom | zbenjamin: Ok, thanks. I'll stick to the normal image for now then | 11:08 |
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locusf | I can now finally test the landscape keyboard too | 12:24 |
Morpog_PC | wtf is going on? https://twitter.com/kwljz/status/388969008185475072 | 12:25 |
locusf | yeah I wondered about that too | 12:25 |
Morpog_PC | a) launch is imminent and he got it from a supply chain | 12:29 |
Morpog_PC | b) it was stolen somewhere | 12:29 |
Morpog_PC | c) jolla lost it by "accident" (unlikely) | 12:30 |
dm8tbr | one thing I'm pretty sure about is: this is not good | 12:31 |
Morpog_PC | yeah | 12:32 |
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Morpog_PC | qwazix, that nemo logo, is there a SVG version anywhere? I searched alot but couldn't find it anywhere. | 14:15 |
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qwazix | no, not that I know of. We should ask the creator | 14:16 |
qwazix | IIRC @realnorth on twitter | 14:16 |
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locusf | qwazix: I don't know how to do the cursor selection but I guess its possible | 14:21 |
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Morpog_PC | qwazix, I asked | 14:23 |
Morpog_PC | if no SVG is available I'm going to recreate it then. | 14:23 |
Morpog_PC | oh that was my 1000th tweet | 14:23 |
Morpog_PC | locusf, just by kbd presses? | 14:24 |
Morpog_PC | I'm sure maliit provides those already | 14:24 |
qwazix | locusf, :nod: | 14:24 |
qwazix | it shouldn't be too hard I suppose... | 14:24 |
qwazix | since maliit already has arrows support | 14:25 |
Morpog_PC | btw qwazix what about a small overlay for that IBM key | 14:25 |
qwazix | like? | 14:25 |
Morpog_PC | aslong as you press | 14:25 |
Morpog_PC | sec, doing a fast prototype | 14:25 |
qwazix | yeah, why not? | 14:25 |
qwazix | the corresponding quartertile can grow and fade a bit out as long as it's pressed | 14:28 |
qwazix | size can be analogous to the distance from the finger to the center or something | 14:28 |
locusf | qwazix: where is the arrows support? | 14:29 |
* qwazix would love an etherpad equivalent with svg | 14:29 | |
qwazix | locusf, on harmattan you can add arrows to the xml and they work fine | 14:29 |
locusf | as in where in code :) | 14:29 |
qwazix | ah, I don't know | 14:30 |
qwazix | I wonder if svgedit could be hacked to provide collaborative editing | 14:30 |
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Morpog_PC | qwazix, something like that http://abload.de/img/examplevysem.png | 14:42 |
locusf | qwazix: how was that cursor movement supposed to work, is it triggered at pressed left -> right gesture on the spacebar? | 14:42 |
locusf | ah so like that | 14:42 |
locusf | thats nicer | 14:43 |
Morpog_PC | and aslong you are on left for example it repeats keypresses accelerating | 14:43 |
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qwazix | Morpog_PC, that suggests a bit that it can be tapped | 14:43 |
qwazix | I think it should be more subtle | 14:44 |
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qwazix | Morpog_PC, something like http://play.qwazix.com/shared/tmp_trackpoint.png | 14:53 |
locusf | nice | 14:56 |
qwazix | locusf, trigger is a swipe that starts roughly over the trackpoint | 14:58 |
locusf | and to the desired direction? | 14:59 |
qwazix | yep | 14:59 |
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locusf | hmm qmlmessages segfaults | 15:01 |
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Morpog_PC | sorry, was on a videochat | 15:03 |
Morpog_PC | sure, more subtle, was just to show the mechanics | 15:04 |
Morpog_PC | maybe all round | 15:04 |
locusf | put in some specs and I can see what I could do | 15:06 |
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locusf | (famous last words re trumpet) | 15:06 |
qwazix | lol | 15:08 |
qwazix | locusf, try to make the cursor move in any way and when we have a relative consensus on design/functionality we'll spec it | 15:09 |
locusf | qwazix: ok | 15:11 |
qwazix | the point of the trackpoint is precision, so moving your finger X pixels to the right, the cursor should move X/4 to the same direction | 15:11 |
qwazix | slow enough that it will be easy to move only one character | 15:12 |
locusf | argh | 15:12 |
Morpog_PC | and I think it should repeat keystrokes | 15:12 |
Morpog_PC | and accelerating | 15:12 |
qwazix | yep, and yep | 15:13 |
qwazix | (I have a hunch that acceleration might be hard to do thoug) | 15:14 |
qwazix | *thoug | 15:14 |
qwazix | crap | 15:14 |
qwazix | *though | 15:15 |
locusf | well nothing about this shouldn't come easy :D | 15:15 |
locusf | or I might be surprised | 15:15 |
locusf | one never knows | 15:15 |
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Morpog_PC | more subtle: | 15:41 |
Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/trackpoint130s9m.png | 15:41 |
Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/trackpoint2f0sin.png | 15:41 |
Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/trackpoint3c7scj.png | 15:42 |
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qwazix | Morpog_PC, do we really need the arrows? | 15:50 |
Morpog_PC | not really | 15:50 |
Morpog_PC | su circles without arrow | 15:52 |
Morpog_PC | so | 15:52 |
Morpog_PC | ar none at all? | 15:52 |
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Morpog_PC | or | 15:52 |
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qwazix | I still think we just need just a little indication of what is happening rather than a full-on overlay | 15:53 |
Morpog_PC | second | 15:53 |
qwazix | sandy_locke's quartertiles were a good indicator that this is a 4way control without need for arrows | 15:54 |
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Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/trackpoint1wcukf.png | 15:59 |
Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/trackpoint274u96.png | 15:59 |
Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/trackpoint3l7uij.png | 15:59 |
qwazix | don't hate me, but I still like sandy_locke's original more :/ | 16:00 |
qwazix | the circle zooming in is a nice touch however | 16:01 |
Morpog_PC | have a pic of sandy's idea again? | 16:05 |
Morpog_PC | wasn't it a 45 degrees rotated square? | 16:05 |
qwazix | sec | 16:07 |
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qwazix | Morpog_PC, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53739998/vkb-with-cursor-control2.png | 16:08 |
Morpog_PC | ah | 16:08 |
Morpog_PC | i like the look | 16:08 |
qwazix | my take is something like http://play.qwazix.com/shared/tmp_trackpoint2.png and http://play.qwazix.com/shared/tmp_trackpoint3.png | 16:08 |
Morpog_PC | but how do you know you activated up when your finger is above it? | 16:09 |
Morpog_PC | nice one qwazix, just a bit bigger | 16:09 |
Morpog_PC | and the not activated one should be behind keys I think | 16:10 |
qwazix | refresh your page | 16:10 |
Morpog_PC | better, maybe even bigger :) | 16:10 |
qwazix | behind keys? are you sure? | 16:11 |
Morpog_PC | looks kinda strange on top I think | 16:11 |
qwazix | http://play.qwazix.com/shared/tmp_trackpoint4.png | 16:12 |
Morpog_PC | removenah, not the activated trackpoint | 16:12 |
Morpog_PC | when it's inactive and small of course :) | 16:13 |
Morpog_PC | err, ignore the remove | 16:13 |
qwazix | ah, ok | 16:13 |
qwazix | I liked how sandy_locke carved out space around it | 16:13 |
Morpog_PC | qwazix, yes, but I think locusf would hate us | 16:14 |
Morpog_PC | in background small with less opacity could work well | 16:14 |
qwazix | this? http://play.qwazix.com/shared/tmp_trackpoint5.png | 16:15 |
Morpog_PC | looks strange :) | 16:15 |
qwazix | yeah, I don't like it either | 16:15 |
Morpog_PC | try it behind the keys with less opacity | 16:15 |
Morpog_PC | maybe a bit smaller | 16:16 |
qwazix | http://play.qwazix.com/shared/tmp_trackpoint6.png | 16:16 |
Morpog_PC | bit smaller and less opacity :) | 16:16 |
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qwazix | reload | 16:17 |
Morpog_PC | yeah betetr | 16:17 |
qwazix | still like number 4 | 16:17 |
qwazix | it's a nice feature, it's good to be promoted IMO | 16:18 |
Morpog_PC | err, that one? http://play.qwazix.com/shared/tmp_trackpoint4.png | 16:18 |
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qwazix | no sorry http://play.qwazix.com/shared/tmp_trackpoint2.png | 16:18 |
Morpog_PC | how about a smaller version of that which doesn't touch the keys? | 16:21 |
qwazix | it will be too small, even No6 did touch the keys and it's already too small | 16:21 |
faenil | wheew, what a long day | 16:21 |
Morpog_PC | typing could get worse with this on top | 16:21 |
faenil | good afternoon guys | 16:21 |
Morpog_PC | ello | 16:21 |
Stskeeps | good afternoon faenil | 16:22 |
Morpog_PC | faenil, we just think about stuff to complicate your and locusf lives ,) | 16:22 |
fk_lx | faenil: hi | 16:22 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, http://play.qwazix.com/shared/tmp_trackpoint_ibm_edition.png | 16:23 |
qwazix | IBM edition :P | 16:23 |
Morpog_PC | lol | 16:23 |
Morpog_PC | mmmh, I just got an Idea | 16:23 |
Morpog_PC | why don't we just use the G button long press for it? | 16:23 |
Morpog_PC | you could integrate the circle logo above but behind the G character | 16:24 |
Morpog_PC | long press of G activates overlay | 16:24 |
qwazix | but it looks nice where it is :-) I guess we just have different taste | 16:24 |
Morpog_PC | well, it's not only about looking, you stiill have to comfortable typing | 16:25 |
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qwazix | to be frank I did think about g button first, and then when trying to find a way to communicate it I thought of IBM | 16:25 |
qwazix | tapping it won't do anything anyway | 16:25 |
qwazix | only swiping from that point to somewhere else | 16:26 |
Morpog_PC | sure, but people will still avoid tapping it, thats a psychlogical thing | 16:26 |
qwazix | hmm... | 16:27 |
qwazix | I don't know, I think if we do it in the size of the red one, but in glacier blue it won't be in the way | 16:28 |
Morpog_PC | well, we can have a check if it works well or not | 16:29 |
Morpog_PC | if locusf can implement it both ways | 16:29 |
Morpog_PC | and then decide | 16:29 |
Morpog_PC | should be tried on device of course | 16:30 |
qwazix | :nod: | 16:30 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, nice to hear xD | 16:34 |
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faenil | oh anyway, we have a rotating page :D | 16:35 |
Morpog_PC | cool | 16:35 |
qwazix | \o/ | 16:35 |
faenil | with toolbar (the normal one) and gradient (which is overlay of the page) | 16:35 |
faenil | I'll make a short video to show you | 16:35 |
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locusf | Morpog_PC: whaa? | 16:36 |
Morpog_PC | mmh? | 16:36 |
locusf | what should I implement? | 16:37 |
faenil | crap Q10 sucks at camera settings | 16:37 |
faenil | can't show you, it sucks | 16:38 |
Morpog_PC | the trackpoint | 16:38 |
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Morpog_PC | qwazix, http://realnorth.net/share/nemo-logo.svg | 16:57 |
Morpog_PC | maybe add it to some repo? | 16:57 |
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Morpog_PC | oh and how about using glacier colors for it? | 17:05 |
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faenil | qwazix, so, basically, default background of pages is black, toolbar is black, gradient is black | 17:12 |
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Morpog_PC | how about such a bootlogo? | 17:25 |
Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/boot_shutdown_n9hnuzz.png | 17:25 |
faenil | much better than the current one :P | 17:26 |
Morpog_PC | what was shutdown logo? | 17:27 |
Morpog_PC | same? | 17:27 |
faenil | nope | 17:28 |
faenil | it's a lightgrayish screen with Nemo logo | 17:28 |
faenil | and Mer too, iirc | 17:28 |
faenil | similar to yours, but landscape and greyish | 17:28 |
Morpog_PC | where to find? | 17:28 |
Morpog_PC | systemd made me think it's the same logo | 17:28 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, let me check code | 17:29 |
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faenil | Morpog_PC, it should be in the theme folder | 17:30 |
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Morpog_PC | plymouth-lite-poweroff.service says its poweroff.png which links to shutdown-nemo-800x480.png which is just the same as splash-nemo-800x480.png | 17:31 |
Morpog_PC | well, a gray version of it | 17:32 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, there you go | 17:32 |
faenil | https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-theme-default/blob/master/lgpl/icons/graphic-shutdown-logo.png | 17:32 |
faenil | it's that logo on light-grayish page | 17:32 |
faenil | in landscape | 17:32 |
Morpog_PC | ah, ok so it's a qml page? | 17:32 |
Morpog_PC | where this is centered? | 17:33 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/blob/qt5/src/qml/ShutdownScreen.qml | 17:33 |
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Morpog_PC | ah! | 17:33 |
faenil | oh it should be a white rectangle, lol | 17:33 |
Morpog_PC | this is not doable for boot, i reckon? | 17:34 |
faenil | nice colours, n950 :D | 17:34 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, I'm not sure about that, I don't know how plymouth works and why we need that | 17:34 |
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Morpog_PC | strange that I don't see the shutdown logo on VM | 17:34 |
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faenil | mm | 17:38 |
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Morpog_PC | any reason why it's white? | 17:39 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, it's just background | 17:40 |
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Morpog_PC | sure, but with thought of glacier we maybe should change it to black | 17:41 |
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faenil | yeah why nont | 17:42 |
faenil | anyway did you read my question to qwazi | 17:42 |
faenil | standard page bg is black | 17:42 |
faenil | toolbar is blacak | 17:42 |
faenil | gradient is black, so you can't see it | 17:42 |
Morpog_PC | but content on page ain't black | 17:43 |
faenil | true, but you can't see the gradient unless there is something exactly underneath it | 17:45 |
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qwazix | faenil, yes it's all black. That's by design, gradient will only be visible when text or other elements go under it | 18:08 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, we could make "nemo" in logo white for dark backgrounds, and even make it monochrome for some uses, but I would get the authors permission before changing colors | 18:09 |
faenil | qwazix, ok ;) | 18:11 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, we might want to think about the license of the specs... | 18:14 |
qwazix | (and glacier as a theme too...) | 18:14 |
qwazix | What if a corporation forks it and starts selling phones with it? Would we want the fork to be closed source? | 18:15 |
locusf | hmm | 18:21 |
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Morpog_PC | qwazix, good question, but isn't most parts of nemo BSD or gpl V2? | 18:30 |
qwazix | even if the question is "BSD or GPLv2?" it's still a tough one. | 18:31 |
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Morpog_PC | yep | 18:34 |
Morpog_PC | we should discuss this with all of us | 18:34 |
Morpog_PC | @Morpog @NemoMobile no problem, feel free to change the colors to match the #GlacialUI palette | 18:44 |
Morpog_PC | approved :) | 18:44 |
qwazix | ok | 18:49 |
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NeeDforKill | hi guys | 18:51 |
qwazix | hey | 18:52 |
NeeDforKill | how going glaicer ui? | 18:54 |
qwazix | lot's of things to iron out, but we're progressing | 18:55 |
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Morpog_PC | would that work? http://pastie.org/private/npjal5u5cyrwumlwee4jyq#9,17 | 18:58 |
NeeDforKill | glaicer concept looks very nice | 18:58 |
Morpog_PC | added L9 and changed L17 from white to black | 18:58 |
qwazix | L9 probably wont work | 18:59 |
qwazix | L17 should suffice | 18:59 |
Morpog_PC | yeah L17 is useless without L9 :) | 19:00 |
qwazix | I don't think so | 19:00 |
qwazix | The rectangle covers the whole screen | 19:00 |
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Morpog_PC | ah wait, default screen color is black? | 19:00 |
qwazix | doesn't matter | 19:01 |
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Morpog_PC | qwazix, on line 46 to 49 that rectangle opacity is changed to 0 | 19:01 |
qwazix | Rectangle covers the whole of Item, and Items do not have color anyway | 19:01 |
Morpog_PC | If I understand that code right :) | 19:02 |
qwazix | It does, but I think it fades in from whatever it was visible before, not from white | 19:02 |
qwazix | (let me check) | 19:02 |
qwazix | yep, like I described | 19:05 |
Morpog_PC | ok, will PR and see how reviewers will react :) | 19:07 |
qwazix | :) | 19:08 |
Morpog_PC | shall I commit the altered nemo logo svg to glacier-controls-spec? | 19:15 |
qwazix | hmm, maybe we should make another repo nemo-artwork? | 19:15 |
Morpog_PC | sounds good | 19:16 |
qwazix | and we should move those to nemo mobile github organization instead of our private repos | 19:18 |
Morpog_PC | who can merge there? | 19:19 |
Morpog_PC | beside the Jolla guys | 19:19 |
qwazix | https://github.com/nemomobile?tab=members | 19:20 |
Morpog_PC | ah, ok | 19:20 |
qwazix | I don't know if all members can merge | 19:20 |
Morpog_PC | ah, okĀ² | 19:20 |
qwazix | Morpog_PC, I don't see any artwork related repos in nemo github, so feel free to create a new and we can transfer it when somebody gives us permission to do so | 19:24 |
Morpog_PC | no license yet? | 19:26 |
Morpog_PC | seems I need to chose one | 19:27 |
Morpog_PC | nope | 19:27 |
qwazix | artwork could probably be some cc-something, but I'm completely illiterate regarding cc licenses | 19:27 |
Morpog_PC | no cc to choose from | 19:27 |
qwazix | then choose none and we add our license once we decide on it | 19:28 |
Morpog_PC | yep | 19:28 |
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qwazix | I'll go afk to watch a movie or sth. Cya later | 19:31 |
locusf | dunno if slegdes could | 19:34 |
locusf | we alsk need opensans | 19:34 |
Morpog_PC | ok feel free to add related artowrk https://github.com/Morpog/nemo-artwork | 19:41 |
Morpog_PC | going to watch a movie now too :) | 19:41 |
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