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faenil | o/ | 08:01 |
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Stskeeps | moo | 08:01 |
faenil | Stskeeps, I bet it's only you and me on sunday morning | 08:02 |
Stskeeps | probably | 08:02 |
faenil | every few months I go check this https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-24477 | 08:06 |
faenil | hoping it would get fixed... | 08:06 |
faenil | if anybody has a workaround for that, I can trade my soul :) | 08:08 |
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locusf | heya | 08:20 |
faenil | locusf, o/ | 08:21 |
faenil | locusf, we've got a problem, QQC Button doesn't expose x and y when pressed | 08:21 |
faenil | (which was expected) | 08:21 |
faenil | so we either copypaste code from official components and modify it (but then we have to remember to update the code when QQC are updated) | 08:21 |
faenil | or we find a hack which makes it possible to get mouse.x and mouse.y | 08:22 |
faenil | which I found, if it wasn't for https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-24477 | 08:22 |
locusf | faenil: oh, do we need em? | 08:22 |
faenil | locusf, yes, for the pressed effect "halo" | 08:22 |
locusf | ah ok | 08:23 |
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faenil | I'm thinking about going c++ to fix that | 08:24 |
faenil | it's ridicolous that QML can't simulate a mouse press | 08:24 |
faenil | because of property overriding | 08:25 |
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faenil | the day will come when we'll be able to do mousearea.forwardTo : anotherMouseArea | 08:47 |
faenil | just as you can do with key presses | 08:47 |
zbenjamin | heya | 08:59 |
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faenil | zbenjamin, o/ | 09:02 |
zbenjamin | no you are not the only ones ;) | 09:03 |
zbenjamin | faenil: what are you guys currently working on? anything i can help with? Something in c/c++/qt code? | 09:05 |
* zbenjamin is not the guy type of programmer | 09:05 | |
faenil | zbenjamin, say what you'd like to do, and I'll try to find something related :) | 09:05 |
zbenjamin | something in the middleware i'd say ... | 09:06 |
faenil | zbenjamin, let's see, what about compositor? | 09:07 |
zbenjamin | hm as is said , no guy type... depends what problems are there? | 09:07 |
faenil | swiping out of apps doesn't work correctly, should not be hard to fix, but it could be on QML side | 09:08 |
zbenjamin | i'll try to take a look ;) no promises | 09:09 |
locusf | correction: it sometimes works and sometimes it doesn't :) | 09:09 |
zbenjamin | that are the best ones ;) | 09:09 |
faenil | yeah | 09:09 |
locusf | and also sometimes the compositor draws the window in the bottom and you need to massage it to get it back to the middle | 09:09 |
faenil | also, maliit is not working correctly | 09:10 |
faenil | that again could be on QML side | 09:10 |
locusf | faenil: what about maliit? | 09:10 |
faenil | locusf, well, it only shows in portrait in n950, and it doesn't hide when you pop pages | 09:10 |
faenil | and if you send app to bg and send another to fg you see the keyboard still animating away | 09:11 |
faenil | and so on :) | 09:11 |
locusf | ah ok | 09:11 |
locusf | the portrait issue is probably related to the all around landscape issue | 09:11 |
faenil | zbenjamin, on c++ side, we need to hookup QOrientationSensor with the compositor, i.e. create a small class which using QOrientSensor calls compositor::setOrientation when the orientation changes | 09:11 |
locusf | eg. lipstick is in landscape but apps in portrait | 09:12 |
faenil | locusf, yes, it is that | 09:12 |
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zbenjamin | faenil: how does rotation work currently if the sensor is not hooked up | 09:16 |
locusf | but zbenjamin fixes it then no problem | 09:16 |
faenil | zbenjamin, it doesn't :D | 09:16 |
faenil | zbenjamin, it worked in X11 of course | 09:17 |
zbenjamin | ah right we are on wayland ;) | 09:17 |
faenil | :) | 09:17 |
faenil | zbenjamin, also as you can see there are performance issues, so if you want to investigate at lower level, that is a big point :) | 09:17 |
zbenjamin | in fact i can't yet ;) | 09:18 |
zbenjamin | but i will soon i hope | 09:18 |
faenil | ah, you don't have it running yet? | 09:19 |
zbenjamin | no currently working on it | 09:20 |
faenil | ok ;) then don't worry you'll be able to see the issues yourself ;) | 09:20 |
faenil | issues* | 09:20 |
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zbenjamin | can someone tell me what the fiasco image is? wiki says its mentioned in the n9 firmware restore | 09:28 |
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zbenjamin | but its not ;) | 09:28 |
dm8tbr | FIASCO is the file format for N9 / N900 firmware images | 09:29 |
zbenjamin | ah! so i need the firmware image for my phone? | 09:29 |
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zbenjamin | great 2.3G ...now this will take some time | 09:35 |
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locusf | i remember that i saw someting regarding orientation signals in journalctl | 09:43 |
locusf | for llipstick | 09:43 |
locusf | but that was some time ago | 09:44 |
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zbenjamin | can someone plz upgrade my internet connection? | 10:07 |
zbenjamin | 3Mbit is just not enough | 10:07 |
zbenjamin | thats what you get for living on the country side | 10:08 |
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locusf | I know the pain, I had 8MBit for a while and it was quite painful, 24MBit is now pure enjoyment <3 | 10:21 |
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zbenjamin | locusf: 8Mbit sounds like enjoyment to me already ;) | 10:27 |
locusf | zbenjamin: hehe :) | 10:27 |
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locusf | btw orientation doesn't change even if m_screenOrientation is set to Qt::PortraitOrientation in lipstickcompositor.cpp | 10:39 |
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Morpog_PC | faenil, when the button overlay effect doesn't work right now we could just use normal highlighting as workarund | 10:51 |
Morpog_PC | like on VKB | 10:51 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, I'm working on it, a dirty hack will do, maybe | 10:51 |
faenil | lunch, bbl | 10:51 |
Morpog_PC | cya | 10:51 |
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locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile/qt-components/pull/11 | 11:19 |
locusf | bbl | 11:22 |
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zbenjamin | locusf: is it normal to get a warning about a bad kernel format for moslo? | 11:33 |
zbenjamin | WARNING: bad kernel format in ./usr/share/moslo/zImage-moslo | 11:42 |
zbenjamin | ^scary | 11:42 |
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zbenjamin | faenil: is it normal to get a warning about a bad kernel format for moslo? | 12:47 |
zbenjamin | WARNING: bad kernel format in ./usr/share/moslo/zImage-moslo | 12:47 |
faenil | zbenjamin, I heard that already, but don't know remember if it can be ignored | 12:47 |
zbenjamin | who could know? | 12:49 |
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zbenjamin | locusf: ping | 12:55 |
faenil | zbenjamin, if it's just a warning I'd just ignore it | 12:57 |
faenil | it's probably not important | 12:57 |
zbenjamin | lets hope so .. i just have one device ... | 12:57 |
zbenjamin | wtf!!!!!!!!!!!1 | 12:58 |
zbenjamin | ^Czbenjamin@gamepc:~/nemo/flash$ file usr/share/moslo/zImage-moslo | 12:58 |
zbenjamin | usr/share/moslo/zImage-moslo: HTML document, ASCII text, with no line terminators | 12:58 |
zbenjamin | ok the wiki needs updating | 12:59 |
faenil | ? | 12:59 |
zbenjamin | https://raw.github.com/ruedigergad/nemo-n9-blobs/master/zImage-kernel-moslo-n9 adress downloading the image | 13:00 |
zbenjamin | https://github.com/ruedigergad/nemo-n9-blobs/raw/master/zImage-kernel-moslo-n9 <<<< address currently in the wiki, containing a http redir | 13:00 |
faenil | ah ok, I don't know about n9 | 13:00 |
zbenjamin | its downloading the html file instead the correct one | 13:00 |
zbenjamin | i guess new adressing structure on githib | 13:01 |
zbenjamin | github | 13:01 |
faenil | yeah | 13:01 |
zbenjamin | man i almost flashed html file as kernel ..... | 13:01 |
* zbenjamin shakes | 13:02 | |
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faenil | zbenjamin, I'm pretty sure it does the same warning with the correct file | 13:03 |
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zbenjamin | faenil: nope | 13:03 |
faenil | at least, I heard that warning many times already | 13:03 |
faenil | many, many :D | 13:03 |
faenil | so it's something common in one situation at least | 13:03 |
faenil | but you've been lucky this time :D | 13:03 |
faenil | it's not like you were killing the device anyway | 13:04 |
faenil | just flash again :) | 13:04 |
zbenjamin | faenil: how much am i in trouble if repartitioning failed? | 13:05 |
faenil | zbenjamin, not much, it failed first time for me | 13:06 |
faenil | there is a troubleshooting section for that iirc | 13:06 |
zbenjamin | hmpf i cannot telnet into the device :/ | 13:09 |
zbenjamin | faenil: if i would disable the device now would it be gone? | 13:11 |
faenil | I'd say no, but don't take my words too seriously, I'm just guessing | 13:12 |
zbenjamin | hmm, the device is taking exactly my ip subnet 192.168.2.* | 13:14 |
zbenjamin | ok i'm on | 13:15 |
zbenjamin | phew | 13:15 |
faenil | :) | 13:15 |
giucam | i have the mer sdk and a working wl image. how do i now develop on nemo? i have cloned the lipstick repo, once i modify something how do i build and deploy it? | 13:20 |
faenil | giucam, I wrote armv7 development image, there's everything you need there | 13:22 |
faenil | s/image/tutorial | 13:23 |
giucam | where? on the wiki? | 13:23 |
faenil | yes | 13:23 |
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faenil | AOE2 lan part about to begin :P cya later people :) | 13:25 |
zbenjamin | faenil: how do i get the device to reboot after repartitioning? since the reboot command is not working? | 13:25 |
zbenjamin | any secret command? | 13:25 |
faenil | zbenjamin, I don't remember needing a command to erboot | 13:26 |
faenil | maybe I always did it with power button :) | 13:26 |
faenil | zbenjamin, did partitioning end successfully? | 13:27 |
zbenjamin | yay worked, now i just need to copy over the rootfs right? | 13:27 |
faenil | yep | 13:28 |
giucam | mmh... can't find it... | 13:28 |
zbenjamin | of course n9 networking broke my real network... now working on 2 computers ;) | 13:28 |
faenil | giucam, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=armv7hl+development+nemo | 13:29 |
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faenil | giucam, :) | 13:30 |
giucam | well, seems that the hl in armv7hl did the trick | 13:30 |
faenil | yep :) | 13:30 |
faenil | have fun peeps | 13:31 |
zbenjamin | great i maybe bricked it | 13:32 |
faenil | zbenjamin, ? | 13:32 |
zbenjamin | power on button does not work anymore | 13:32 |
faenil | not possible | 13:33 |
faenil | especially if you only extracted the rootfs | 13:33 |
zbenjamin | now ... weird | 13:33 |
faenil | zbenjamin, ? | 13:33 |
zbenjamin | i pressed the button just a few seconds ago and nothing happend | 13:34 |
zbenjamin | now it worked again | 13:34 |
zbenjamin | ... why do these things always happen to me? ;) embarrasing ;) | 13:34 |
faenil | XD | 13:34 |
faenil | I'll be back this evening | 13:35 |
faenil | giucam, let me have feedback on the guide ;) | 13:35 |
zbenjamin | faenil: last question | 13:35 |
zbenjamin | i'm about to copy the stuff over, the image is bz2 compressed but the -j switch is not given when decompressing | 13:36 |
faenil | so? | 13:36 |
zbenjamin | is that stuff bz2 compressed on the phone? | 13:36 |
faenil | there's a command on the wiki to extract the image | 13:36 |
faenil | zbenjamin, I'm not getting your point | 13:37 |
zbenjamin | anyway it seems to work, after copying rebooting is enough? | 13:37 |
faenil | you have .tar.bz2 image, you do "tar blablabla" to extract it on Alt_OS ---> done | 13:37 |
zbenjamin | extracting to Alt_OS worked | 13:38 |
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faenil | ok, after that umount the device | 13:38 |
faenil | and reboot | 13:38 |
faenil | if it doesn't boot at first attempt, reboot :) | 13:39 |
faenil | should boot at first try | 13:39 |
zbenjamin | how do i remove that ugly warranty warning | 13:39 |
zbenjamin | hm it just seems to power off when i chose alternate kernel | 13:41 |
zbenjamin | ah now | 13:41 |
zbenjamin | haha | 13:41 |
zbenjamin | newmo | 13:41 |
zbenjamin | nemo is booting ;) | 13:41 |
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giucam | mb keeps trying to download a dependecy pkg that is outdated. i tried runnig zypper refresh but it didn't help | 13:41 |
faenil | giucam, sb2 -t targetName -R zypper ref | 13:43 |
faenil | if you only do zypper ref you update package of sdk | 13:43 |
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faenil | while you need to update packages of the target, which is in another fs | 13:43 |
giucam | ah, ok thanks | 13:43 |
faenil | bye bye guys | 13:43 |
faenil | have fun | 13:43 |
giucam | yeah, it's working now | 13:43 |
giucam | bye | 13:43 |
faenil | good ;) | 13:44 |
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zbenjamin | why is everything in landscape? | 13:44 |
zbenjamin | ok i need to fix that sensors stuff firdst | 13:46 |
zbenjamin | first | 13:46 |
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locusf | zbenjamin: pong | 14:19 |
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zbenjamin | locusf: already solved, there is a wrong link in the wiki that downloads a html page instead of the moslo image, and flasher luckily realized that | 14:20 |
locusf | oh | 14:20 |
zbenjamin | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Persistent_Single_Boot_by_Flashing_the_Dual_Boot | 14:22 |
zbenjamin | curl https://github.com/ruedigergad/nemo-n9-blobs/raw/master/zImage-kernel-moslo-n9 -o usr/share/moslo/zImage-moslo <-- will download a html file containig a redirect to the real file | 14:22 |
zbenjamin | locusf: can you point to me to a start when i want to hack on the orientation stuff? | 14:25 |
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locusf | see lipstick | 14:40 |
zbenjamin | locusf: just found it ;) | 14:43 |
zbenjamin | locusf: if i get the current qtcreator from qt-project is the mer plugin already included? | 14:43 |
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locusf | zbenjamin: no it is not | 14:49 |
zbenjamin | so i still need to build it myself | 14:49 |
locusf | zbenjamin: use sailfish sdk | 14:49 |
zbenjamin | ok | 14:49 |
locusf | zbenjamin: lemme get home first and then ill help ya | 14:49 |
zbenjamin | locusf: great thx | 14:50 |
locusf | about 50mins - 1 hour | 14:50 |
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zbenjamin | locusf: i'll install the sdk in that time | 14:50 |
locusf | yeah :) | 14:50 |
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locusf | then follow http://locusf.blogspot.fi/2013/09/adding-armv7hl-target-to-sailfish-sdk.html | 14:59 |
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zbenjamin | locusf: no way to use my locally installed sdk? | 15:17 |
zbenjamin | i need to use the VM? | 15:17 |
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giucam | aha, it seems i managed to build and install lipstick from source on the wayland image vm :) | 15:27 |
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Stskeeps | giucam: \o/ | 15:44 |
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giucam | mmh... breakage in the code didn't result in breakage in the ui... | 15:55 |
giucam | doesn't the default ugly wayland ui build on lipstick? | 15:55 |
locusf | zbenjamin: oh you've got it installed, sure use that then :) | 15:56 |
giucam | well, yes it does. i'll try to break lipstick more :) | 15:58 |
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locusf | zbenjamin: then just for lipstick and start hacking on your fork | 16:02 |
locusf | *fork lipstick | 16:02 |
zbenjamin | locusf: i just wonder how i install qt inside my sdk | 16:06 |
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locusf | zbenjamin: do you have scratchbox2 target setup? | 16:06 |
zbenjamin | yes sb2 | 16:06 |
locusf | zbenjamin: ok did for lipstick already? | 16:07 |
locusf | did you fork | 16:07 |
zbenjamin | yes | 16:09 |
locusf | then after cloning you gotta enter the sdk with /srv/mer/sdks/sdk/mer-sdk-chroot | 16:10 |
locusf | then: mb clean -t <yourarmtarget> rpm/lipstick-qt5.spec && mb build -t <yourarmtarget> rpm/lipstick-qt5.spec | 16:11 |
zbenjamin | rm: cannot remove `/home/zbenjamin/rpmbuild/BUILD/': No such file or directory | 16:14 |
zbenjamin | ah ok just removed the clean command | 16:14 |
locusf | ok skip the clean then | 16:14 |
locusf | good | 16:14 |
zbenjamin | nice it automagically installs the missing deps | 16:14 |
zbenjamin | now how can i make creator use the sdk? | 16:15 |
zbenjamin | locusf: | 16:15 |
zbenjamin | error: Failed build dependencies: | 16:15 |
zbenjamin | pkgconfig(Qt5SystemInfo) is needed by lipstick-qt5-0.16.18-1.armv7hl | 16:15 |
zbenjamin | pkgconfig(qmsystem2-qt5) >= 1.4.11 is needed by lipstick-qt5-0.16.18-1.armv7hl | 16:15 |
zbenjamin | qt5-qtwayland-wayland_egl-devel >= 5.1.0+git7 is needed by lipstick-qt5-0.16.18-1.armv7hl | 16:15 |
locusf | you can't, at least not right now with any success :/ | 16:15 |
locusf | zbenjamin: hmm wait a second, you need more repos | 16:16 |
locusf | zbenjamin: sb2 -t <yourtarget> -m sdk-install -R zypper ar http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/mw/latest_armv7hl/nemo:devel:mw.repo | 16:18 |
locusf | zbenjamin: sb2 -t <yourtarget> -m sdk-install -R zypper ref | 16:18 |
zbenjamin | where did you get that from? ;) | 16:19 |
locusf | zbenjamin: my history :p | 16:19 |
zbenjamin | lol | 16:19 |
Morpog_PC | gnah, those listviews drove me crazy....... | 16:19 |
zbenjamin | locusf: still error | 16:20 |
zbenjamin | error: Failed build dependencies: | 16:20 |
zbenjamin | pkgconfig(Qt5SystemInfo) is needed by lipstick-qt5-0.16.18-1.armv7hl | 16:20 |
zbenjamin | qt5-qtwayland-wayland_egl-devel >= 5.1.0+git7 is needed by lipstick-qt5-0.16.18-1.armv7hl | 16:20 |
locusf | hmm | 16:20 |
locusf | zbenjamin: sb2 -t <yourtarget> -m sdk-install -R zypper ar http://repo.merproject.org/obs/mer:/qt:/devel/latest_armv7hl/mer:qt:devel.repo | 16:20 |
locusf | then zypper ref again | 16:20 |
zbenjamin | locusf: yay it starts to build | 16:22 |
locusf | zbenjamin: ok shouldn't take more than 5 minutes | 16:23 |
locusf | zbenjamin: you can use qtcreator to edit and then mersdk to build | 16:24 |
zbenjamin | RPM build errors: | 16:24 |
zbenjamin | Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.e56E26 (%build) | 16:24 |
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zbenjamin | man ;) not even one minute | 16:24 |
locusf | crap | 16:24 |
locusf | zbenjamin: try again but first mb clean and then mb build | 16:25 |
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locusf | zbenjamin: eg. the first command | 16:25 |
zbenjamin | error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.fAIXVe (%build) | 16:26 |
locusf | zbenjamin: can you pastebin the whole output? | 16:26 |
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zbenjamin | can i somehow supress the -j switch? | 16:27 |
zbenjamin | its sometimes easier to spot errors when not using multiple cores | 16:27 |
Morpog_PC | listview for glacier UI - specced: http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=595 | 16:27 |
locusf | zbenjamin: you need to edit the .spec file | 16:27 |
locusf | zbenjamin: find make %{?jobs:-j%jobs} line and remove the "%{?jobs:-j%jobs}" stanza | 16:28 |
zbenjamin | in rpm/libstick*.spec? | 16:28 |
locusf | zbenjamin: yes | 16:29 |
zbenjamin | no jobs :/ | 16:29 |
zbenjamin | this line is not there | 16:29 |
locusf | hmm interesting | 16:29 |
zbenjamin | aaa | 16:29 |
zbenjamin | /usr/lib//libqmsystem2-qt5.so: undefined reference to `operator<<(QDBusArgument&, Maemo::Timed::Event::Triggers const&)' | 16:29 |
zbenjamin | /usr/lib//libqmsystem2-qt5.so: undefined reference to `operator>>(QDBusArgument const&, Maemo::Timed::Event::Triggers&)' | 16:29 |
zbenjamin | looks like the bad guy | 16:30 |
locusf | zbenjamin: https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick <- did you fork and clone this? | 16:30 |
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qwazix | Morpog_PC, nice work! | 16:30 |
locusf | zbenjamin: ah | 16:30 |
Morpog_PC | thanks, just pushed to my repo | 16:30 |
locusf | zbenjamin: sb2 -t <yourtarget> -m sdk-install -R zypper dup | 16:30 |
zbenjamin | locusf: i hope so https://github.com/bzeller/lipstick | 16:31 |
locusf | zbenjamin: yeah good | 16:32 |
locusf | zbenjamin: did zypper dup help? | 16:36 |
locusf | ah its probably still downloading :) | 16:36 |
zbenjamin | Exit reason and status: signal 11 (core dumped) | 16:36 |
zbenjamin | yeah this error is gone | 16:37 |
locusf | core dumped and now lipstick compiles? | 16:37 |
locusf | ok good enough :D | 16:37 |
zbenjamin | where is the rpm now? | 16:38 |
locusf | zbenjamin: ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/armv7hl/ | 16:38 |
zbenjamin | nope ;=) | 16:39 |
locusf | its not | 16:39 |
locusf | .. | 16:39 |
zbenjamin | http://pastebin.com/DQa09Aad | 16:39 |
locusf | ah | 16:39 |
locusf | so it didn't get there | 16:40 |
locusf | this is new | 16:40 |
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zbenjamin | of course :/ | 16:40 |
locusf | zbenjamin: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2#Troubleshooting try the last one, the magic file issues | 16:40 |
zbenjamin | locusf: i'll try it but i need to go for a walk with the dog first | 16:42 |
zbenjamin | will you be here later ? | 16:42 |
locusf | zbenjamin: sure | 16:43 |
zbenjamin | worked ;) | 16:43 |
locusf | excellent | 16:43 |
zbenjamin | installing later ;) | 16:43 |
locusf | zbenjamin: ok | 16:43 |
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locusf | faenil: hey | 16:45 |
Stskeeps | o/ faenil | 16:46 |
locusf | faenil: just instructed zbenjamin with his first built rpms | 16:46 |
* faenil highlights, highlights everywhere *_* | 16:46 | |
locusf | lol | 16:46 |
faenil | locusf, ah great thank you :) | 16:46 |
faenil | Stskeeps, o/ | 16:46 |
faenil | locusf, do you happen to know a way to pass QQuickMouseEvent to cpp and handle it there? | 16:49 |
faenil | QQuickMouseEvent is a private class of Qt, unfortunately | 16:50 |
locusf | faenil: unfortunately no :/ | 16:52 |
faenil | locusf, I won't let Qt win :) | 16:55 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, qwazix ehmm..why multiple specs for different sizes? | 16:56 |
qwazix | faenil, at least two different lists are needed, one with sub-text (like settings) and one simpler for e.g. music player songs | 16:58 |
faenil | we want to provide 3 different list items? (i.e. same list item but a Size constant that dev can change to small/middle/big?) | 16:58 |
faenil | qwazix, you're talking about listitems maybe? | 16:58 |
qwazix | size constant | 16:58 |
faenil | ok | 16:58 |
qwazix | yeah, yeah, list items | 16:58 |
faenil | ok good | 16:58 |
faenil | qwazix, I'm fighting with Qt not to duplicate QQC code | 16:59 |
faenil | I want to reuse QQC's button and extend that one, so that updates come for free | 16:59 |
faenil | but since it doesn't expose x/y during press event | 16:59 |
faenil | I need a hack | 16:59 |
qwazix | :nod: noticed. | 16:59 |
faenil | and I've been spending some time on it | 16:59 |
qwazix | though, especially for button we might consider making our own | 17:00 |
faenil | ended up trying some stuff on cpp side | 17:00 |
faenil | qwazix, not worth it imho | 17:00 |
faenil | not worth at all :D | 17:00 |
faenil | well of course if I don't find any workaround for this thing we will have to | 17:00 |
qwazix | for complex things like lists, or text inputs we should in no way do our own, because we get many things for free (text selection, scrolling, active items, snapping etc etc) | 17:01 |
faenil | qwazix, well but generally speaking we should reuse as many thigns as possible | 17:01 |
faenil | and in button we only need that damn x/y while pressed | 17:01 |
faenil | the rest is ok and is for free | 17:01 |
qwazix | but our button is as simple as a mousarea in a rectangle. No fancy states, no focusing possible, no menus. | 17:02 |
faenil | qwazix, can't deny that | 17:02 |
faenil | though it could get more mobile oriented as they update it for Android/iOS | 17:02 |
qwazix | the same happens in html, i rarely like those javascript controls that replace html components, because you lose way to much hidden functionality (type-ahead, positioning, focusing, keyboard use etc) | 17:03 |
qwazix | but some times, if something is really simple you can do it from scratch and work ok | 17:03 |
qwazix | the only dirty hack I can think of in this case is to put a mousearea on top of the button and use that to manipulate it. If they fix that bug all we have to do is remove our extra MouseArea | 17:05 |
faenil | qwazix, I already have a mousearea on top of it ;) but it's not enough | 17:08 |
faenil | (which bug anyway?) | 17:08 |
Morpog_PC | I guess the one you posted here | 17:08 |
faenil | that was my idea, use a mousearea on top and reuse QQC Button, but I'll lead you trought the issues this causes | 17:08 |
qwazix | The bug that you can't capture x,y from one area to the other below it and still capture release events | 17:09 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, they haven't fixed that in 2 years, do you think they'll fix it now? | 17:09 |
faenil | qwazix, you can never capture x,y from outside mouseareas, it's not a bug | 17:09 |
qwazix | The bug that you can't capture x,y from one area *and forward the event* to the other below it and still capture release events | 17:09 |
Morpog_PC | hope never dies! :) | 17:09 |
faenil | qwazix, ah ok | 17:09 |
Morpog_PC | maybe you fix it and send it upstream? ;) | 17:09 |
faenil | qwazix, no, they'll never fix it | 17:09 |
qwazix | i.e. if you set mouse.accepted = false, you don't have onReleased on this mouseArea | 17:10 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, nope, because the fix is very easy, so if they haven't done it there is another reason | 17:10 |
Morpog_PC | or they just forgot about it | 17:10 |
faenil | qwazix, yes exactly | 17:10 |
faenil | qwazix, so mouse.accepted= false isn't a solution | 17:10 |
faenil | go on saying your ideas ;) | 17:10 |
qwazix | I know, sadly | 17:10 |
faenil | Morpog_PC, if that's the case, I commented today on the bug ;) | 17:10 |
faenil | qwazix, propose other solutions ;) I've tried quite a few, maybe you have more | 17:11 |
qwazix | but I was thinking to completely forget about the mouseArea in the button, reimplement the whole MouseArea again, instead of reimplementing the whole button | 17:11 |
faenil | qwazix, reimplementing QQuickMouseArea instead of a button? what's wrong with you? :D :D | 17:12 |
qwazix | no, no | 17:12 |
qwazix | Button { MouseArea {anchors.fill: parent; onClicked: do_stuff()} } | 17:12 |
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qwazix | where do_stuff() does exactly what the MouseArea in the Button does, again. | 17:13 |
faenil | qwazix, it can't, because you don't have access to the things it needs | 17:13 |
qwazix | hmm | 17:14 |
qwazix | okay, I thought all the relevant properties were exposed. | 17:14 |
faenil | qwazix, most of them are, but __action is not exposed | 17:15 |
qwazix | :nod: | 17:16 |
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qwazix | I don't think I have another idea, unfortunately | 17:17 |
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qwazix | modifying QQC to expose x,y and sending upstream probably won't work, eh? | 17:18 |
faenil | probably won't, right | 17:18 |
faenil | as nobody needs x/y | 17:18 |
faenil | exposed | 17:18 |
faenil | Stskeeps, ping | 17:19 |
faenil | qwazix, there must be a way to get only methods of a js object, and not method and properties together | 17:19 |
faenil | so that we workaround the name conflict of pressed | 17:20 |
faenil | and we're all happy | 17:20 |
Stskeeps | faenil: plong | 17:20 |
faenil | Stskeeps, vague idea of 5.1.1 release? :) | 17:20 |
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qwazix | faenil, IMO the least bad solution is to theme the QQC Button with just a different pressed color for compatibility, and create a GlacierButton for those who want a more Glacier'y look | 17:21 |
Stskeeps | faenil: i'm sure i'll get drunk and then sit and hack it at a tampere hotel room. | 17:21 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:21 |
faenil | Stskeeps, no pressure, just to know when it's coming ;) | 17:22 |
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fk_lx | Stskeeps: you are in Tampere? | 17:23 |
faenil | qwazix, mmm let me try something | 17:23 |
Stskeeps | fk_lx: i will be next week | 17:24 |
fk_lx | ah, ok | 17:24 |
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zbenjamin | can i change the ip the device is using? | 17:43 |
zbenjamin | its using my network subnet and this breaks my internet connection | 17:43 |
locusf | ouch | 17:44 |
Anssi| | Stskeeps, Tampere bars have better beer selection than mini-fridge. | 17:45 |
qwazix | zbenjamin, I think you can just as you would on your pc | 17:48 |
locusf | not really, there is no /etc/network/interfaces and connman doesn't configure it | 17:48 |
Stskeeps | usb-moded | 17:48 |
Stskeeps | there's a tutorial on wiki | 17:48 |
qwazix | I remember I had the same issue and solved it somehow, but I don't recall how | 17:48 |
locusf | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/USBNetworking | 17:49 |
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locusf | hmm not that | 17:53 |
locusf | and /etc/usb-moded/usb-moded.ini only shows mode=developer_mode | 17:54 |
Stskeeps | you add to it with [network] ip=foo | 17:55 |
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zbenjamin | works ;) | 18:05 |
zbenjamin | locusf: ok network is set up, now i only need to install my package | 18:05 |
locusf | zbenjamin: easy, just scp rpm into | 18:06 |
locusf | devicd | 18:06 |
locusf | device | 18:06 |
locusf | and the run zypper in --force <lipstick-rpm> | 18:06 |
zbenjamin | ah ok | 18:07 |
locusf | in the device | 18:07 |
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ZogG_laptop | \o/ | 18:19 |
locusf | zbenjamin: did it work? | 18:19 |
ZogG_laptop | /\/o\ | 18:20 |
ZogG_laptop | he said it worked before | 18:20 |
zbenjamin | locusf: seems to work, but it complains about being a older version | 18:27 |
zbenjamin | ok now i just need to restart lipstick | 18:27 |
locusf | zbenjamin: DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/100000/dbus/user_bus_socket systemctl --user restart lipstick.service | 18:28 |
Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#429 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/429 | 18:30 |
Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#429 Rejected promotion request | 18:31 |
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Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#430 Rejected promotion request | 18:32 |
faenil | back o | 18:32 |
zbenjamin | locusf: yay runs ! | 18:37 |
locusf | zbenjamin: good :) | 18:37 |
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locusf | zbenjamin: do you need a tour on our release process? | 18:40 |
zbenjamin | sounds good, but i guess that can wait until i have my first merge request? | 18:41 |
locusf | zbenjamin: sure | 18:41 |
zbenjamin | wiki says there is a mer plugin for creator, is this thing dead or can i somewhere download and compile it? | 18:42 |
locusf | zbenjamin: it lives in its latest iteration in Sailfish SDK | 18:43 |
locusf | or does lbt disagree? | 18:43 |
lbt | the source for the plugin isn't out yet | 18:44 |
faenil | zbenjamin, great \o/ | 18:44 |
lbt | which is a bit of a poor show :/ | 18:44 |
zbenjamin | faenil: great what? ;) | 18:44 |
locusf | lbt :/ | 18:45 |
faenil | zbenjamin, that it runs :) | 18:45 |
faenil | lbt, :/ | 18:45 |
zbenjamin | faenil: ah ;) | 18:46 |
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faenil | yeeeeeeeeeees | 19:18 |
faenil | success! \o/ | 19:18 |
giucam | mmh... what was the new ui called? ge..., gi... what was it? | 19:21 |
faenil | giucam, Glacier | 19:21 |
giucam | ah, thanks | 19:22 |
faenil | np ;) | 19:22 |
giucam | i got the g right :) | 19:22 |
faenil | giucam, how is it going on your side? | 19:22 |
giucam | i managed to build and deploy lipstick, now i'm looking for something to fix/improve | 19:23 |
giucam | not necessarily on that | 19:23 |
faenil | giucam, great :) I talked to zbenjamin about few issues, you can find them in the weblog of this channel, it should be yesterday evening | 19:25 |
faenil | let me know if you don't find them | 19:29 |
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qwazix | faenil, how did you do it? | 19:35 |
giucam | faenil: can't find them indeed. i looked at the last 3 days but didn't notice anything, at least not with you talking with zbenjamin | 19:36 |
faenil | giucam, my memory is very bad, I could have been talking to someone else, lol | 19:36 |
faenil | qwazix, you'll never imagine, slick, easy, and clean solution :D | 19:36 |
faenil | qwazix, you'll say "how could I not think about it" :D | 19:36 |
qwazix | \o/ | 19:36 |
faenil | qwazix, have a look https://pastee.org/u3mjs | 19:38 |
faenil | giucam, let me see | 19:38 |
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faenil | giucam, it was this morning, sorry xD | 19:38 |
faenil | giucam, http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/latest.log.html#t2013-09-29T09:02:36 | 19:38 |
giucam | faenil: doh, the only day i didn't look :) | 19:39 |
faenil | giucam, until 09:12, 10mins | 19:39 |
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mric_ | sledges, hey :) | 19:39 |
faenil | 09:18 actually, giucam | 19:39 |
qwazix | faenil, no, I would never think of doing that, ever... kudos! | 19:39 |
mric_ | I have seen the log ... nemo has been very busy lately | 19:40 |
giucam | aha, i see... | 19:40 |
faenil | qwazix, ah, ok :D thanks! I was talking with guys on #qt-quick, while talking aalpert took out Connections to do something else, and I saw the light :D | 19:40 |
qwazix | :) | 19:40 |
giucam | oh wow, that's a real big hack ;) | 19:43 |
giucam | but, is there code for glacier or it's only mockups for now? | 19:45 |
faenil | giucam, I have what's out there of Glacier | 19:46 |
faenil | and I am about to publish it, now that Button stuff should be fixed | 19:46 |
faenil | so that everyone can contribute | 19:46 |
faenil | I've been taking qtquickcontrols-tizen repo and readapting it to start working on Glacier | 19:47 |
giucam | ah, cool | 19:47 |
faenil | so that you guys have everything set up already, and writing the styling .qml file should be enough for most of the components | 19:47 |
faenil | qwazix, anyway, button looks washed out on N950 | 19:50 |
qwazix | faenil, not really surprised | 19:51 |
qwazix | we should evaluate this on more screens and tweak accentColor | 19:52 |
qwazix | I assume N9 will be far more saturated | 19:52 |
faenil | qwazix, I'm talking about the grey color, not accent | 19:52 |
faenil | 474747 | 19:52 |
qwazix | ah... | 19:52 |
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qwazix | ok, I'll test it on a few screens and report back | 19:53 |
faenil | qwazix, worth storing that color in a special var like accent? | 19:54 |
qwazix | not sure if it is used anywhere else... let me see | 19:54 |
faenil | as in, is that often used in the other components? | 19:54 |
faenil | qwazix, also, are you okay with having ImportantButton or something like that for the special one? | 19:55 |
faenil | or you think a property important in Button should do that? | 19:55 |
qwazix | yeah, it is used, so go ahead | 19:55 |
qwazix | I'd go for a property important in Button | 19:55 |
faenil | mmm, I'd go the other way :D but np ;) | 19:56 |
qwazix | not a big deal, the other way is okay too | 19:56 |
faenil | I'll go for property and see what happens ;) | 19:56 |
qwazix | okay | 19:57 |
faenil | qwazix, also, any advice about naming? | 19:57 |
faenil | is important the right semantic for that button? don't know if you had something slightly different in mind | 19:57 |
faenil | maybe a better word :D | 19:58 |
qwazix | Not absolutely sure, it is the button that does the intended action in a page. | 19:58 |
faenil | yeah.. | 19:58 |
qwazix | I mean if there is ok and cancel, ok will be "important" | 19:58 |
faenil | yeah | 19:58 |
faenil | let's think about a decent name for some moments | 19:58 |
qwazix | I used "positive" in a recent app | 19:59 |
qwazix | but that was green so it looked like it was more fitting | 19:59 |
qwazix | (I'm also thinking about the 474747 variable name) | 19:59 |
faenil | :D | 20:00 |
faenil | giucam, found anything that you like in those tasks? :) | 20:00 |
qwazix | ActionButton is another idea but it might be confusing (like people wondering what is the differenc) | 20:01 |
qwazix | difference* | 20:01 |
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faenil | giucam, there are lots of things which used to work in X11 and now just need some link with UI, like battery indicator, volume indicator, signal indicator | 20:02 |
faenil | qwazix, also, Action is a QtQuickControl element | 20:02 |
faenil | so yet more confusing | 20:02 |
faenil | and a Button can have an Action assigned :D | 20:02 |
faenil | (like "edit" "cut" "paste" "undo") | 20:02 |
qwazix | :nod: | 20:02 |
qwazix | I'm seeing the words "primary" and "secondary" being used for this kind of thing | 20:04 |
faenil | mm | 20:05 |
qwazix | I think "primary" is okay | 20:07 |
faenil | yea, probably better | 20:07 |
qwazix | and fillColor for 47 | 20:07 |
faenil | good, good yeah | 20:07 |
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giucam | faenil: sorry, was on another tty. i'm not sure... i'd like to find something on the compositor | 20:12 |
faenil | giucam, the orientation thing? | 20:12 |
faenil | or the swipe out of app bug? | 20:12 |
faenil | both compositor | 20:13 |
giucam | i was thinking the swipe, rather | 20:13 |
giucam | that is, swiping on an app should close it? | 20:13 |
giucam | in what direction? | 20:14 |
faenil | nope | 20:14 |
faenil | giucam, if you try to swipe out of app | 20:14 |
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faenil | it only works if you swipe from one side and then from the opposite | 20:14 |
faenil | (swipe out = swipe for a side of the screen to send it to bg) | 20:15 |
faenil | it currently only works if you swipe from left and then from right | 20:15 |
faenil | as the first time you swipe it gets stuck halfway | 20:15 |
faenil | try it ;) | 20:15 |
giucam | ok, i'm in the calculator now. i can swipe all i want but it doesn't go away | 20:16 |
faenil | unless you swipe from left and then from right | 20:17 |
faenil | or from bottom and then from top | 20:17 |
faenil | ;) | 20:17 |
giucam | aah, now i see | 20:20 |
giucam | i need to keep the mouse button down, it needs to be an unique swipe | 20:20 |
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giucam | mmh... clicking on the icon again doesn't bring it up | 20:21 |
giucam | another bug :) | 20:21 |
faenil | giucam, yes ;) | 20:21 |
faenil | giucam, but you can open it from app switcher | 20:21 |
faenil | giucam, unique swipe? | 20:22 |
giucam | where's the app switcher? | 20:23 |
faenil | swipe on the sides when you're in the homescreen | 20:23 |
giucam | yes, i mean from left to right to left without leaving the mouse button on the vm or the finger in a real device | 20:23 |
faenil | giucam, actually on the VM the swipe should work correctly | 20:23 |
faenil | giucam, the issue is only on device, afaik | 20:24 |
giucam | no, it doesn't | 20:24 |
faenil | :/ it worked when I worked on Wayland VM | 20:24 |
giucam | also, i can't swipe on the sides in the homescreen | 20:24 |
faenil | ?? | 20:24 |
giucam | i can only up and down | 20:24 |
faenil | up and down? wtf? XD | 20:24 |
faenil | are you in sailfish? XD | 20:24 |
giucam | oh, now it worked | 20:25 |
giucam | no, nemo | 20:25 |
faenil | I should build a new VM, I'm sure the issue wasn't there when I published Wayland VM | 20:25 |
giucam | it's really picky. sometimes swipes work some other times they dno't | 20:25 |
faenil | maybe just make sure you start swiping from the very edge of the screen | 20:26 |
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giucam | eh, it may be that. it's a bit hard with the huge pointer cursor there is | 20:30 |
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faenil | well, the center of the ball is the hotspot ;) | 20:31 |
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giucam | but it's inconsistent. in an app if i start a swipe with the center just 1-2 pixels from the side of the window it works, but in the homescreen i must start it with the cursor more into the window | 20:33 |
faenil | giucam, because in the homescreen it's not swipe, it's just a gesture | 20:36 |
faenil | it's like a horizontal list of views | 20:36 |
giucam | ok, but a swipe should still work imho | 20:36 |
faenil | giucam, yes of course, I don't see why it wouldn't work :) but it's completely different things | 20:37 |
faenil | giucam, just don't focus on the homescreen, but the current one is just a basic placeholder | 20:37 |
faenil | once UI components will be in place, we'll code THE homescreen ;) | 20:37 |
giucam | :) | 20:38 |
faenil | because* not bug | 20:38 |
faenil | not but | 20:38 |
faenil | just think about compositor bugs ;) | 20:40 |
faenil | (swipe is, scrolling is not) | 20:40 |
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giucam | well, i'll look at it tomorrow | 20:43 |
faenil | giucam, no problem ;) thanks for trying! :) | 20:46 |
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