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| faenil | o/ morning peeps | 07:57 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: morning | 07:59 |
| rcg | morning faenil | 07:59 |
| zbenjamin | guess what ;) | 07:59 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, all went good thanks to my awesome guide | 07:59 |
| faenil | lol | 07:59 |
| faenil | rcg, o/ | 07:59 |
| zbenjamin | in the second you signed out, it went wrong ;) | 07:59 |
| zbenjamin | still here: sb2 -t nemo-n950 -m sdk-install -R zypper dup | 07:59 |
| faenil | rcg, sorry I was afk yesterday, need anything? | 07:59 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, lol, what's the problem? | 07:59 |
| zbenjamin | but it was either glib or gcc that refused to upgrade because of wrong architecture | 08:00 |
| faenil | installing this target is becoming too difficult... | 08:00 |
| faenil | woot? :O | 08:00 |
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| faenil | paste error | 08:00 |
| zbenjamin | Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: package libgcc-4.6.4-1.1.35.armv7hl is intended for a different architecture | 08:01 |
| faenil | wtf.. | 08:01 |
| zbenjamin | lol | 08:01 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, ^ | 08:01 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, did you create the sb2 target yourself with mic create? | 08:01 |
| zbenjamin | sudo mic create fs --record-pkgs=name -o /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/ --pkgmgr=zypp --arch=armv7hl <KS_FILENAME> --tokenmap=MER_RELEASE:latest,NEMO_RELEASE:latest,SSU_RELEASE_TYPE:rnd,FLAVOUR:devel | 08:02 |
| zbenjamin | thats what i used | 08:02 |
| zbenjamin | from the guide | 08:02 |
| faenil | ok | 08:02 |
| rcg | faenil, np, ws just asking if there is a new tarball for nemo+wayland | 08:03 |
| faenil | rcg, don't know about tarballs sorry, try asking locusf and sledges :) they usually upload stuff, my connection is too slow for that | 08:03 |
| rcg | faenil, aye, thx :) | 08:03 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, and you used this? https://github.com/faenil/NemoWaylandKickstart/blob/master/nemo-armv7hl-rnd_sb2target.ks | 08:04 |
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| zbenjamin | yepo | 08:06 |
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| rcg | btw. does anyone of you have a hint what could be going wrong when i cannot log into the sailfish sdk vms? | 08:12 |
| rcg | essentially, i seem to struggle with adding my key to the authorized_keys | 08:13 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: where does the libgcc package check for the version? | 08:13 |
| zbenjamin | or is this a runtime check maybe? | 08:13 |
| rcg | log in via ssh, i.e. | 08:13 |
| zbenjamin | just guessing, but ssh is running? | 08:14 |
| rcg | yep | 08:14 |
| rcg | already added the vm to the known_hosts | 08:14 |
| zbenjamin | and authorizing with keys is enabled? | 08:14 |
| rcg | should be | 08:14 |
| rcg | am using the default sailfish sdk vms | 08:15 |
| rcg | only problem is that i cannot log in via ssh | 08:15 |
| zbenjamin | and your key is added to authorized_keys... hmmm wasn'T there something that sshd refuses to use authorized_keys when the permissions wrong on the file or the parent dir? | 08:15 |
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| rcg | yep | 08:16 |
| zbenjamin | maybe check the logs | 08:16 |
| faenil | back | 08:16 |
| faenil | sorry | 08:16 |
| faenil | :) | 08:16 |
| zbenjamin | rcg: how did you copy the ssh keys to the vm? | 08:17 |
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| zbenjamin | because: Tools→Options→Devices Deploy Public Key doesn't work. Instead copy the public key of your keypair to ~/SailfishOS/emulator/ssh/nemo/authorized_keys and ~/SailfishOS/emulator/ssh/root/authorized_keys Those files are accessed on the emulator using shared folders | 08:18 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: no idea about my problem? | 08:19 |
| rcg | sorry, cannot reply that quickly. gotta take care of the boy at times | 08:19 |
| rcg | zbenjamin, yeah, added my public key to SailfishOS/mersdk/ssh/mersdk/authorized_keys etc. | 08:20 |
| zbenjamin | np | 08:20 |
| zbenjamin | rcg: well than i can only tell you to check the logs ... | 08:20 |
| zbenjamin | maybe there is some clue why you cannot log in | 08:21 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, it looks strange... | 08:21 |
| rcg | hmpf, there is no ssh log | 08:22 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23mer/%23mer.2012-03-19.log.html#t2012-03-19T21:08:04 | 08:23 |
| rcg | ah | 08:23 |
| rcg | cat .ssh/id_rsa.pub >> SailfishOS/mersdk/ssh/mersdk/authorized_keys | 08:23 |
| rcg | apparently missed to add a new line between the existing and the new key | 08:24 |
| rcg | manually adding a line break helped | 08:24 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: i have no etc/rpm/platform in the target maybe thats the problem? | 08:24 |
| rcg | alright, now it works | 08:24 |
| rcg | thx for your help :) | 08:24 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, you skipped some steps? :P | 08:25 |
| zbenjamin | i did? | 08:25 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, or wiki has been refactored | 08:27 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, try "echo -n "armv7hl-meego-linux" > etc/rpm/platform" | 08:29 |
| zbenjamin | worked... where did you get that from? | 08:30 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2#Target_Setup | 08:32 |
| zbenjamin | hmpf | 08:32 |
| zbenjamin | you have to add that to your guide | 08:33 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, I think I didn't add it for a reason...but yeah, got to add it it seems ;) | 08:34 |
| faenil | strange that none had this problem though, or none said he did | 08:34 |
| zbenjamin | because your link points to far below https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2#Initialize_scratchbox2 | 08:34 |
| faenil | yes I know, because I wanted to avoid messing around with different commands | 08:34 |
| faenil | as the sb2-init command is different | 08:34 |
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| faenil | nvm | 08:35 |
| faenil | I'm misremembering :) | 08:35 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: yay: hello: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=63d7d5b5efe39f99abfff25933880442f017b239, not stripped | 08:41 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, added directions https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2#Initialize_scratchbox2 | 08:42 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, great :) | 08:43 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, so, anything else you think needs to be fixed in the wiki? | 08:44 |
| zbenjamin | hmm | 08:44 |
| * zbenjamin looks | 08:44 | |
| zbenjamin | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Entering_chroot | 08:45 |
| zbenjamin | here | 08:45 |
| locusf | rcg: I can cook one tarball right now, one moment :) | 08:45 |
| faenil | what | 08:45 |
| zbenjamin | in the .profile example there are some \ before the $ | 08:45 |
| zbenjamin | copy & paste does not work | 08:45 |
| zbenjamin | line 2 , 3 and 4 | 08:46 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, how to fix that? :/ | 08:46 |
| zbenjamin | err no | 08:46 |
| faenil | copypaste works ok here? | 08:46 |
| zbenjamin | remove the \ | 08:46 |
| zbenjamin | huh? | 08:46 |
| faenil | you said copypaste doesn't work | 08:47 |
| zbenjamin | yeah but executing the .profile then breaks | 08:47 |
| faenil | ah ok | 08:47 |
| faenil | need to remove those slashes? | 08:47 |
| rcg | locusf, cool :) | 08:48 |
| rcg | locusf, but i don't want to cause you any trouble | 08:48 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: yeah | 08:48 |
| faenil | actually now that I'm at gf's I have super fast university connettion xD | 08:49 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, alright, I'll trust you on that :) | 08:49 |
| zbenjamin | line 2 , 4 and 6 it is | 08:49 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: rules ;) | 08:49 |
| faenil | it's been like that for ages :) | 08:49 |
| locusf | rcg: no trouble :) | 08:50 |
| locusf | I just got my internet speed upgraded so enjoying the benefits | 08:50 |
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| faenil | ahah cool :) | 08:50 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Entering_chroot | 08:50 |
| zbenjamin | yeah | 08:51 |
| faenil | but yeah, I don't understand why there were \ in there.. | 08:51 |
| zbenjamin | maybe a older wiki version required that? | 08:51 |
| faenil | mm could be | 08:51 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, anything else? maybe the hosts fix? | 08:53 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: just out of curiosity could i now create my own image file from within the sdk? | 08:53 |
| zbenjamin | aaa yeah the hosts fix... that just needs to be clear it has to be in the SDK | 08:53 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, you already created an image from within the sdk | 08:53 |
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| zbenjamin | where is it then? | 08:54 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, the target you created | 08:54 |
| faenil | or are you talking about an image to flash the n9? | 08:54 |
| zbenjamin | ok but i need a binary image if i want to flash it right ;) | 08:54 |
| zbenjamin | yes | 08:54 |
| zbenjamin | now we are talking ;) | 08:54 |
| faenil | ah ok, there is a different .ks for that | 08:55 |
| zbenjamin | still need to get to know all the tools | 08:56 |
| zbenjamin | would be nice if there where some overvierw that gives a brief explanation about the required tools | 08:56 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, feel free to write one after you get everything fixed :) | 08:57 |
| zbenjamin | ;) | 08:57 |
| faenil | I've been documenting for some time this summer :P | 08:57 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, anything else to fix on the wiki? | 08:59 |
| zbenjamin | nothing i can think of atm | 08:59 |
| rcg | locusf, :) | 08:59 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: ok i guess next step is flashing my n9 ;) | 09:00 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, :) so you could find the hosts fix while following the guide? | 09:00 |
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| zbenjamin | hm i saw it somewhere yes | 09:00 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: we fixed this already https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Building_an_image | 09:01 |
| faenil | yes but do you get there when following the tutorial? | 09:01 |
| zbenjamin | no , because you only have to read until the until the "Basic Tasks" section (excluded). | 09:03 |
| zbenjamin | ;) | 09:03 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, exactly | 09:06 |
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| faenil | that was my worry | 09:07 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, I'll just copy the command over | 09:08 |
| faenil | god I hate this redundancy on Wiki | 09:08 |
| faenil | things get outdated in no time and you have no way to track them | 09:08 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Armv7hl_Development_Guide#Build_and_Setup_SB2_target | 09:11 |
| faenil | ok, I guess we're done fixing the wiki | 09:13 |
| locusf | rcg: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/qptxygocugtozk1/nemo-n950-rnd-20130928.tar.bz2?token_hash=AAGXv9Hg6B9KzSy4lwMdqK5Dy3lUzrRJGoXzhLlkXg-QCQ&dl=1 | 09:13 |
| faenil | locusf, that token is temporary right? | 09:14 |
| faenil | we can't put it on wiki | 09:14 |
| locusf | faenil: I dunno | 09:14 |
| locusf | get rid of em and test :) | 09:14 |
| rcg | locusf, cool, thx :) | 09:14 |
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| locusf | faenil: yeah it works without the parameters | 09:15 |
| rcg | locusf, just ported one of my apps to qt5. am now going to try to see if it runs on nemo wayland as well. so, the new image comes very handy. :D | 09:15 |
| locusf | faenil: so this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/qptxygocugtozk1/nemo-n950-rnd-20130928.tar.bz2 | 09:15 |
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| faenil | strange, I don't know if that will last | 09:16 |
| faenil | but anyway, let's try, I'll update the wiki ;) | 09:16 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, if you happen to remember anything that needs fixing let me know, and thank you very much for providing feedback on the tutorial :) | 09:18 |
| faenil | locusf, deleted button style qml file by accident yesterday evening, lol | 09:19 |
| locusf | faenil: lol, did you have a backup? | 09:19 |
| faenil | nope | 09:19 |
| faenil | but no problem, it's small stuff | 09:19 |
| faenil | I'll do it again | 09:19 |
| faenil | I was editing it on-device, and then installed a new package, without saving that file :D | 09:19 |
| faenil | and it was overwritten | 09:20 |
| faenil | I have to start editing on host and then scp'ing over :P | 09:20 |
| locusf | ouch | 09:21 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: will do | 09:31 |
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| faenil | qwazix, ping | 09:38 |
| qwazix | faenil, pong | 09:39 |
| faenil | qwazix, you know the Button may have a Menu associated to it? :D | 09:40 |
| qwazix | menu? | 09:40 |
| qwazix | contextMenu? | 09:40 |
| faenil | "a menu component for use in menu bars, as context menu, and other popup menus." | 09:41 |
| faenil | not just contextmenu | 09:41 |
| aknight | again, a throwback from qwidgets | 09:41 |
| qwazix | we don't have such thing, that's desktop | 09:41 |
| faenil | aknight, eh :/ | 09:41 |
| aknight | remember that desktop components were made to replace widgets | 09:41 |
| faenil | aknight, these are not desktop components, this is what should land on iOS and Android...:/ | 09:42 |
| aknight | faenil: well those platforms don't have to style desktop cases | 09:42 |
| aknight | but the api/functionality is there | 09:42 |
| jonwil | I dodn't know that QT was ever a candidate for iOS? | 09:42 |
| faenil | aknight, ok, so what is the official position? ignore if there is a menu assigned to it? | 09:43 |
| aknight | anyway it uses the same menu api. style is normally an extra triangle on the button | 09:43 |
| faenil | aknight, yes ;) | 09:43 |
| aknight | faenil: you will want to provide a menu style as it is used elsewhere. i don't think you need to provide the menu hint on the button if you don't want to support that use case | 09:43 |
| faenil | aknight, ok ;) | 09:43 |
| faenil | of course MenuStyle will be there | 09:44 |
| faenil | but ok, I'll just ignore the hint ;) | 09:44 |
| qwazix | faenil, this is our menu http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=495 (without the gradient header, I have to change that to black) | 09:44 |
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| faenil | that's a header/toolbar, not a menu | 09:45 |
| qwazix | true, but the items in the harmattan components menu will go there | 09:47 |
| faenil | qwazix, ? "QML Menu Element. Menu component for selecting a menu item from a list of menu items" | 09:49 |
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| qwazix | faenil, it's just different visual, the header might have a menu in it or other items. I don't know if I'm making sense here | 09:52 |
| faenil | heeh | 09:52 |
| faenil | what matter is the menu attached to a button is the list one :) | 09:52 |
| faenil | matters* | 09:52 |
| qwazix | I'd say ignore it for now | 09:53 |
| faenil | yep | 09:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | morning :) | 09:54 |
| qwazix | morning! | 09:54 |
| faenil | hey :) | 09:54 |
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| faenil | wonder if we should provide a SystemPalette for Nemo | 09:56 |
| faenil | nah let's keep it Glacier specific | 09:56 |
| qwazix | yep | 09:59 |
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| faenil | dear people, rejoice! \o/ https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,63733 | 10:13 |
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| locusf | ? | 10:14 |
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| faenil | locusf, those are dialogs | 10:15 |
| faenil | we didn't have that in QtQuick2 or QQC | 10:15 |
| locusf | oh | 10:16 |
| locusf | ok | 10:16 |
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| faenil | though it looks very desktop-y | 10:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: :O | 10:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | cool | 10:18 |
| faenil | though it really looks desktop-only :/ | 10:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | imo, useful | 10:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: can't we theme them ? | 10:18 |
| faenil | don't think so | 10:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :( | 10:19 |
| faenil | they're QtQuick2, not QQC (yet, they plan to move dialogs to QQC) | 10:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ok | 10:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | awesome | 10:19 |
| faenil | don't know when that will happen though :/ | 10:20 |
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| ZogG_laptop | faenil, Sfiet_Konstantin o/ | 10:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hey ZogG_laptop ! | 10:23 |
| faenil | o/ ZogG_laptop | 10:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | sup | 10:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: you never sleep ah? | 10:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | how your gf still with you? | 10:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | :P | 10:24 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop, yup, photoshopping pictures from holiday :) | 10:24 |
| faenil | photoshopping is a strong word :P | 10:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | gimping? | 10:27 |
| ZogG_laptop | :P | 10:27 |
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| faenil | ZogG_laptop, even less :D | 10:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: painting :D | 10:28 |
| faenil | kind of :D | 10:28 |
| ZogG_laptop | so in holiday pictures you added yourself ? as at all pictures you wasn't there coz you was here? | 10:30 |
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| faenil | lol | 10:32 |
| faenil | I didn't even use the laptop during holiday | 10:32 |
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| faenil | bbl | 10:55 |
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| Morpog_PC | morning :) | 10:56 |
| locusf | quite a morning lol | 10:57 |
| locusf | its 2pm here :D | 10:57 |
| Morpog_PC | 1pm here ,) | 10:57 |
| locusf | ok :) | 10:57 |
| Morpog_PC | worst thing is I don't know if I should take a breakfast or have lunch, or skip it at all and just drink a coffee and prepare for dinner later :) | 10:59 |
| locusf | yep :) | 11:00 |
| ZogG_laptop | Morpog_PC: what about brunch? | 11:01 |
| Morpog_PC | too late :) | 11:01 |
| Morpog_PC | I went for a yoghurt | 11:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | i remember when dinner was middle one and supper was last one | 11:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | i have yougurt too | 11:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | i'll go with tea + cake from gf and yougurt | 11:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | :) | 11:02 |
| Morpog_PC | sounds good | 11:02 |
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| locusf | still need to do some studying, then I'll crack on the font selection issue | 12:13 |
| faenil | locusf, don't talk about studying....crap, I've got to start studying for the next exam :( | 12:15 |
| locusf | faenil: :) | 12:17 |
| faenil | Nemo is too tempting :P | 12:17 |
| faenil | I already forgot what we decided regarding the u constant xD | 12:22 |
| locusf | lol it can happen :D | 12:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: we should use Qt's internal way to handle dpi | 12:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and get rid of u | 12:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not get rid of you, but of u of cause | 12:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 12:35 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, :P | 12:35 |
| faenil | of COURSE!! XD | 12:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 12:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | oh him | 12:36 |
| faenil | anyway, it's not clear if Qt's env var is what we need | 12:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | GET RID OF FAENIL!!!!! THIS IS SPARTA!!!! | 12:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | :X | 12:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | XD | 12:36 |
| faenil | because that only affects pixmaps from that I understood | 12:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ZogG_laptop: :D | 12:36 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop, lol | 12:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: imo, we need a nice QPA | 12:36 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, :/ | 12:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: we can see | 12:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and experiment | 12:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (right now, i can't, because i'm coding simething else :() | 12:37 |
| faenil | :( | 12:38 |
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| ZogG_laptop | what are you coding | 12:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | tell us the secret | 12:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ZogG_laptop: something boring for course | 12:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :P | 12:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | good | 12:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | we love boring | 12:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | everybody loves boring | 12:48 |
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| Morpog_PC | faenil | 13:07 |
| Morpog_PC | im speccing listview in 3 sizes atm | 13:07 |
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| faenil | Morpog_PC, great | 13:07 |
| Morpog_PC | is it possible to have a listview component that can have different variations? | 13:08 |
| Morpog_PC | like the biggest size variation 1 = 3 colums, with headers | 13:08 |
| Morpog_PC | variation 2 = 3 collums, no headers | 13:08 |
| Morpog_PC | and so on? | 13:08 |
| Morpog_PC | or do I need to spec for every variation? | 13:09 |
| Morpog_PC | there are lots of combinations unfortunately | 13:09 |
| faenil | don't know :/ | 13:11 |
| faenil | please keep controls in mind | 13:11 |
| faenil | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtquickcontrols/qtquickcontrols-index.html | 13:11 |
| faenil | and try to spec those :) | 13:11 |
| Morpog_PC | omg :( | 13:12 |
| faenil | trying to make our life more difficult? :D | 13:13 |
| Morpog_PC | what would the equivalent to a listview be there? | 13:13 |
| faenil | well, ListView is QtQuick, not QQC | 13:13 |
| Morpog_PC | thats why I ask for equivalent :) | 13:13 |
| faenil | you use ListView...don't need equivalent | 13:14 |
| faenil | try http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtquickcontrols/qml-qtquick-controls1-scrollview.html | 13:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: wait what | 13:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | can you describe the 3 variations ? | 13:15 |
| Morpog_PC | ok I'm confused :) | 13:15 |
| Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, well there could be more variations | 13:16 |
| Morpog_PC | I do an example pic, second | 13:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: thanks :) | 13:16 |
| Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/image.php?img=listview-master-exampd7s1k.png | 13:17 |
| Morpog_PC | see that as variation 1 | 13:17 |
| Morpog_PC | now imagine the same list without those headers sperating | 13:18 |
| Morpog_PC | or a list without those icons | 13:18 |
| Morpog_PC | or a list without icons and only 1 textfield | 13:18 |
| Morpog_PC | and and and | 13:18 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: I consider that you should split into speccing 2 things | 13:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or 3 | 13:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | spec the header | 13:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and spec the "delegate" | 13:19 |
| faenil | +1 | 13:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you can even spec the delegate with 3 components, like spec the icon, the spec the label(s) and spec the arrow | 13:19 |
| Morpog_PC | atm I got all in one | 13:20 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, shader driving me crazy :D | 13:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: :D | 13:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: better separate: the header is a component in QML, and the "delegate", another one | 13:21 |
| Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/listview-master-exampljsuc.png | 13:21 |
| Morpog_PC | what do you refer to as "header"? | 13:21 |
| Morpog_PC | the one above specced by qwazix? ignore it, it's just there to see how it looks like | 13:22 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC the top "Settings" is the header | 13:22 |
| Morpog_PC | just ignore that bit | 13:22 |
| Morpog_PC | look at 2nd pic | 13:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: this spec is "ok", only missing is the spacing between icon and boder | 13:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | border | 13:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and icon - label spacing | 13:22 |
| Morpog_PC | centered | 13:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | we can deconstruct your spec to simple components | 13:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and if we are angry with your specs, we will ping you :P | 13:23 |
| Morpog_PC | so it would be enough that way? | 13:23 |
| faenil | don't forget font sizes | 13:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ok for this imo | 13:23 |
| faenil | weight | 13:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 13:23 |
| faenil | etc etc | 13:23 |
| Morpog_PC | And I should do all variations then? | 13:23 |
| faenil | opacity, bla bla bla | 13:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: forget the variations | 13:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | we can understand | 13:23 |
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| Morpog_PC | faenil, sure those will on the right side, just imagine the other specs | 13:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | font size indeed | 13:24 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, I'd suggest: Header, ListItem, SectionItem | 13:24 |
| faenil | something like that | 13:24 |
| faenil | but you should first see how it works in QQC, you have to see how it handles headers and sections, if it does | 13:24 |
| Morpog_PC | or I ignore that bit and let it to you figuring that out :) | 13:25 |
| faenil | that wouldn't be nice, but your choice :) | 13:25 |
| Morpog_PC | As I'm sure I would misinterpret some stuff anyway | 13:25 |
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| faenil | yeah but, you can't just dream,sketch,and let us do the dirty job :P | 13:25 |
| Morpog_PC | not sure if that would help alot | 13:25 |
| faenil | you should spec based on what's possible with QQC | 13:26 |
| Morpog_PC | you see I can ;) | 13:26 |
| faenil | and what we have to add on top of them | 13:26 |
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| Morpog_PC | faenil sure, but It#s not easy to understand such stuff without seeing how that works in the end | 13:26 |
| Morpog_PC | thats a bit too abstract for me | 13:26 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, that's why you have to try QQC first :) | 13:27 |
| Morpog_PC | and how and where shall I try that if it doesn't exist? | 13:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: IMO, Morpog_PC's specs are clearly enough here | 13:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (missing font size) | 13:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | we can manage | 13:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and we should use ListView | 13:29 |
| Morpog_PC | it's just a part of the spec :) | 13:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: ah ? font size are specced elsewhere ? ok | 13:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 13:29 |
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| Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, have you watched our other specs? | 13:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: not muched, at least I don't know them by heart :) | 13:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so I might missed some :) | 13:30 |
| Morpog_PC | thats how a final spec looks like: http://play.qwazix.com/grog/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/glacier-controls-switch.png | 13:30 |
| Morpog_PC | font size and colors, etc. are on that right bar | 13:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | speaking about qwazix's switch design, I wonder why is he using assets and no shaders or Rectangle for his switch | 13:31 |
| Morpog_PC | well, it was my design .) | 13:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | for the circular switch handle it might be better to use assets though | 13:32 |
| Morpog_PC | circular button has a gradient | 13:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: becase I'm thinking if glacier should be black and blue only | 13:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or if the blue can be replaced, just like in WP | 13:32 |
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| faenil | mm maybe I don't need to create my own shader :) | 13:32 |
| Morpog_PC | I used rectangle for switch, but sledges proposed a circular one | 13:33 |
| Morpog_PC | after discussing with qwazix and him we went curcular | 13:33 |
| Morpog_PC | ah Sfiet_Konstantin misunderstood you | 13:33 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: search for graphicaleffects faenil | 13:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | there are a lot of nice stuff here :) | 13:34 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, yes that's what I was talking about :) | 13:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: hehe :) | 13:34 |
| Morpog_PC | well, as I wasn't sure about performance for rectangle that dynamically changes it'S color, I used images for it | 13:34 |
| faenil | I wanted to code my own shader, but it might be much easier this way :P | 13:34 |
| Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, feel free to use rectangle instead of those images when realising the switch. | 13:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Rectangle is better than any asset | 13:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | assets are bad | 13:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: should we be able to change the main color from blue ? | 13:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | could be nice :) | 13:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | what do you think | 13:36 |
| Morpog_PC | the activate color? | 13:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: reuse is better than reinventing the wheel :) | 13:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: you will have opportunity to do your own shader :D | 13:36 |
| Morpog_PC | well, rest of UI uses that color for important stuff, not sure what other colors ypu got in mind? | 13:36 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, definitely, but learning is better than always taking things done by somebody else ;) | 13:36 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, yeah ;) | 13:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: think windows phone | 13:37 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, I coded some shaders in the past, but it was some time ago | 13:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | they allow the user to select the color they want for "highlighted" stuff | 13:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: it is more a matter of balance | 13:37 |
| Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, sounds nice, but won't work with all colors | 13:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and I'm sure that Digia's shaders are highly optimized ;) | 13:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: what colors do you have in mind ? | 13:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm just thinking about providing 6 or 12 colors, just for the sake of customization | 13:38 |
| Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, that would work | 13:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or we can use colors for an application (think harmattan this time) | 13:38 |
| Morpog_PC | or that too | 13:38 |
| Morpog_PC | but app developers are ignoring such stuff | 13:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: not core developers | 13:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: and on harmattan, the theming was awefully done | 13:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | we can do better | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | there was theming in harmattan? | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | we can also have the WP theming style | 13:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: na, just about the color change in different applications | 13:39 |
| locusf | what are shaders btw? | 13:40 |
| Stskeeps | opengl shaders | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | / qml shadereffect | 13:41 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, what about the color of the button pressed state? | 13:41 |
| Morpog_PC | just look at the harmattan icon colors, everyone ignore those ctegories :) | 13:41 |
| Morpog_PC | categories | 13:41 |
| Morpog_PC | I think a system wide setting for highlights would work better | 13:41 |
| Morpog_PC | faenil, ? | 13:41 |
| Morpog_PC | thats what we are talking about | 13:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | locusf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shader | 13:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: +1 about system wide highlight | 13:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | we need a global Theme object IMO | 13:42 |
| faenil | locusf, C-ish code for GPU to modify vertices or pixels | 13:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (just like sailfish) | 13:42 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, there is already, don't worry :) | 13:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: we should include the highlight color in Theme then :) | 13:42 |
| locusf | faenil: oh ok | 13:43 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, Sfiet_Konstantin, faenil regarding specs let's agree to the following: It's okay to propose a solution in the spec (or better in the blog post that accompanies it) but if the developer feels strongly there is a better programming solution that achieves the same effect (or awefully similar) he is free to modify | 13:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: awesome :) | 13:43 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, ;) not sure I'd call it highlight, but yes | 13:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: :) | 13:44 |
| qwazix | awfully* | 13:44 |
| faenil | locusf, and this is what you can do with them | 13:44 |
| faenil | locusf, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMRln8FJvKc | 13:44 |
| faenil | qwazix, yes I agree with that | 13:44 |
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| faenil | the thing is graphics people should have in mind which controls they're styling imho | 13:44 |
| qwazix | faenil, I don't like "highlight" either. "Accent color" is better | 13:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: nice vid | 13:44 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, sounds sane! | 13:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: accentColor ? | 13:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sounds great | 13:45 |
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| ispn | Hello | 13:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello ispn | 13:45 |
| qwazix | Sfiet_Konstantin, yeah | 13:45 |
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| faenil | qwazix, so, the important button's color is accentColor as well, right? | 13:45 |
| qwazix | yep | 13:46 |
| faenil | ok | 13:46 |
| ispn | I just got redirected to Nemo a few minutes ago by a friend, who heard me ranting about Android and Google policies, so I decided to drop by and ask some questions =) | 13:46 |
| qwazix | ispn, fire away | 13:46 |
| Morpog_PC | we would need to set different colors and alter images too for those variations | 13:46 |
| faenil | ispn, welcome aboard :) | 13:46 |
| faenil | ispn, want me to introduce you to the Sdk, ndk, pdk, tdk? | 13:47 |
| faenil | lol :D just kidding ;) | 13:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: :D | 13:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: don't frighten people :D | 13:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: welcome :) | 13:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: what kind of images ? | 13:47 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, :D | 13:47 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, with the shader work faenil is doing we might not have to use images for those things | 13:48 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: if we can use shaders we might not need to have versions of images etc. | 13:48 |
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| qwazix | Sfiet_Konstantin, beat you! | 13:48 |
| qwazix | :P | 13:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah :D | 13:48 |
| faenil | qwazix, maybe Qt has an easy solution for us so I don't have to waste time taking out shaders book :D | 13:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is nice to see nemo so alive :) | 13:48 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: don't be so sure :) | 13:48 |
| faenil | guys, silence please, ispn has disappeared already :D | 13:48 |
| ispn | OKay, I'm new to mobile devices, up till now running around with a laptop. Got an ANdroid tablet by sheer accident, it's a local version of Chinese Bmorn K22, running on quad ARM, ATM7029. | 13:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Qt have _some_ solutions | 13:49 |
| Morpog_ | qwazix, well, if thats more performant than pre generated imnages? | 13:49 |
| ispn | No, no, I'm just preparing all the stuff, because tablets are a virgin ground for me. Never touched them with a ten foot pole up till now :P | 13:49 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, we need RadialBlur :) | 13:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_: it is | 13:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_: like close to no CPU consumption, everything is done in GPU | 13:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and no disk IO | 13:49 |
| qwazix | It was Sfiet_Konstantin's turn to beat me | 13:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: ok | 13:50 |
| Morpog_ | well, but I'm sure you cannot do everything with a shader :) | 13:50 |
| ispn | So the first question is: can I get Nemo running on this? | 13:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: you want to start hacking on it ? :) | 13:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_: you can do a lot | 13:50 |
| faenil | ispn, Stskeeps is the best person to help with that | 13:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: we don't really know: we don't know all hw out there, but you can figure out | 13:50 |
| ispn | Sfiet_Konstantin: yes, but it... like... doesn't even have Xorg T_T Don't know how to start. | 13:50 |
| qwazix | Morpog_ you can also generate gradients on the fly, probably with less cost than reading from disk | 13:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: first question, that could be nice: does it have fastboot | 13:51 |
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| faenil | ispn, we got rid of Xorg! \o/ | 13:51 |
| ispn | Sfiet_Konstantin: ok, how? Root it, and then what? | 13:51 |
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| ispn | faenil: Yes, I know! Saw the Wayland progress link on the wiki, didn't chew through it yet. | 13:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: I don't know Android world much, but having fastboot mode (something that can be used with android SDK tool called "fastboot") is really nice | 13:51 |
| qwazix | ispn, this might help http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/04/21/how-to-use-libhybris-and-android-gpu-libraries-with-mer-linux-on-the-cubieboard/ | 13:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: like try to boot it by holding volume down, or volume up etc. | 13:52 |
| faenil | ispn, well, I think we got rid of lots of Qt4/x11 stuff, not sure you'll be able to get Nemo running on it using x11 | 13:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | see if something called "fastboot mode shpws up" | 13:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: he can use Wayland though | 13:52 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, yes of course, I was telling him to forget x11, in a nice way :D | 13:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: X11 have to be forgotten anyway :) | 13:53 |
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| ispn | faenil: I don't insist on Xorg, just the way stuff is done on the mobile devices with touch interfaces freaks me out, totally not used to it/not wnough knowledge yet. | 13:53 |
| faenil | ispn, no problem, we're all newbies here apart from big heads :D | 13:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: don't be afraid if you are ready to learn | 13:54 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is "simple" and lot of fun | 13:54 |
| ispn | So, can I actually kick out Android completely, like you do with 'normal' computers, and install Nemo in pace of it? and tuck away the Android image somewhere safe if I need it? | 13:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: tried finding out if you can fastboot ? | 13:55 |
| ispn | Or do I have to use Android to boot into Nemo image? | 13:55 |
| ispn | Sfiet_Konstantin: ok, wait a second, I have to check the term, and check the tablet. | 13:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: maybe you can use an Android bootloader | 13:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm very bad at this too | 13:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I don't know much about it sadly :( | 13:57 |
| qwazix | ispn, it's improbable that there are native linux/glibc drivers for your device, so you need some parts of android | 13:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: but not an Android image | 13:57 |
| qwazix | Sfiet_Konstantin, right | 13:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the first question: how to flash a non -Android image on it | 13:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | we will of cause use Stskeeps's libhybris | 13:57 |
| qwazix | ispn, also bear in mind that nemo/wayland is under heavy development and some things don't work completely | 13:58 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, of COURSE! XD | 13:58 |
| faenil | ispn, yea, don't expect something daily-usable | 13:58 |
| ispn | Sfiet_Konstantin: I got here from the Warsaw Hackerspace mailing list. Everyone, even the folk with negative attitudes towards Google, are using Droid. And 15 mails into the thread an Apple junkie sent me a ling to Nano :P So I'm afraid we are in a standard situation, sadly. | 13:58 |
| ispn | faenil: I want video, books and images, so I can read stuff, watch tutorials... basically a display with some hard drive, running FAST. So nothing fancy. | 13:59 |
| ispn | For fancy stuff I got a laptop :/ | 13:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: don't even expect that | 13:59 |
| faenil | ispn, heheeh ^ | 13:59 |
| ispn | :D | 13:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | at least don't expect it now | 14:00 |
| faenil | ispn, as said, transition to wayland broke everything, so we're building up from scratch mostly | 14:00 |
| ispn | okay, commandline and I'm all comfy =))) | 14:00 |
| faenil | ispn, :D | 14:00 |
| ispn | I can wait =) | 14:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | we are still facing some challenges, and lacking of devs is one of them | 14:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so if ispn you want to learn and join our forces, you are really welcome | 14:00 |
| faenil | definitely | 14:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you will see, we are friendly over there :) | 14:00 |
| ispn | Yes, this is a problem everywhere :( I notice this all around FLOSS world more and more, especially since corpos started to go open source and suck in the market =( | 14:01 |
| qwazix | bbl \o | 14:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | bbl qwazix | 14:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: it is not a problem. We are also supported by a company here | 14:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 14:02 |
| ispn | Sfiet_Konstantin: re: fastboot, I think I can get it to run, but not now. I'll start with that (Adroid wiki, duh! But I needed a search keyword) and get back here, trying to get Nemo working. | 14:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: better start with fastboot | 14:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | after that we will be able to easily flash a kernel into your device | 14:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and an image | 14:03 |
| ispn | Sfiet_Konstantin: That's good to hear! It always good to have a bit of organization/infrastructure, puts an edge to projects. | 14:03 |
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| ispn | Sfiet_Konstantin: yes, this is exactly what I needed to get this started. I had no idea about the level of embedding Android holds on such devices, and none of the hacks I was searhcing for gave any definite answers. | 14:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: it is hard with a noname chinese device hjonestly | 14:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is easier with a Nexus 7 | 14:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | good luck with it | 14:05 |
| ispn | Sfiet_Konstantin: Well, as long as the tablet doesn't get bricked/boots images, it's gonna be fine =) | 14:06 |
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| ispn | I'll get back here and post the results, and drop some news on our mailinglist in the mean time. Chance is I'll get more people interested, so we can hack away at it more collectively. | 14:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: no problem :) | 14:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you might also want to get in touch with Stskeeps | 14:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I will try here with the Galaxy S2 one day | 14:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so maybe I will face similar issues and we can collaborate | 14:08 |
| ispn | Sfiet_Konstantin: whoa, he's from my location! | 14:09 |
| Stskeeps | hm? | 14:10 |
| ispn | Stskeeps: Siemasz :) | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | ispn: i may be in warsaw/poland but i'm not polish ;) | 14:10 |
| ispn | Ahhh! | 14:10 |
| ispn | Sorry :D | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | no problem - good to see more people from warsaw here | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | do you have kernel source for the device? | 14:11 |
| ispn | Stskeeps: okay, in short: a friend from the Warsaw HAckerspace gave me a link to Nemo, and I'm surprised no one in the hackerspace did anything with it yet, even though a lot of people have Android. | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | ispn: ah, been in hackerspace two-three times | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | it's always hard to let go of working-for-daily-usage experiences | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | so it blocks people contributing to those until they're ready for daily usage, it's a bit of a catch 22 :P | 14:13 |
| ispn | Stskeeps: you mean that people are not willing to sacrifice comfort of use/user experience? | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | until you use a sw daily and as your primary device, in mobile, it's often hard to justify working a lot on it :P | 14:14 |
| * Stskeeps works at jolla.com who makes commercial product based on mer core+nemo middleware | 14:15 | |
| Stskeeps | and even for those products primary device is the most important | 14:15 |
| ispn | BUT WHAT ABOUT FUN D: Damn, people forget about fun. And independence. And knowing your damn software from the bottom up! argh. | 14:15 |
| ispn | Hmm, we've had a thread about Jolla running just recently... | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | well, i'm sure you'll feel right at home here | 14:16 |
| faenil | ispn, can't agree more | 14:16 |
| faenil | ispn, I find it hard to meet devs who believe in those things :D | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | ispn: at smartdevcon.eu we were demoing the device at least; we had a sailfishos sdk install fest in hackerspace | 14:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: +1 | 14:17 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | woooow ... QDBusConnection::connect is strange :O | 14:18 |
| ispn | Stskeeps: yes, there was someone who saw it as far as I rememebr... I didn't really get into this thread, because I was like EEEW MOBILE GETITOFFME, and then suddenly became part of 'the crowd' by sheer accident (T-Mobile gives away those ARM tablets for nothing recently, you may have seen the ads) | 14:18 |
| ispn | and now I'm playing catchup | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | i've recently hacked a alcatel one touch fire, nice little kit | 14:18 |
| faenil | crap, I overrode wrong button style :D | 14:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: hehe | 14:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: how is your solution to hack into Androidish devices ? | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: going forward.. working with lbt to document it | 14:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm usually trying to get fastboot on it, but is there a nicer soluiton ? | 14:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: cool, awesome | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | well, get to fastboot mode is pretty much requirement | 14:19 |
| ispn | Stskeeps: q3k from HS-WAW has a six-core ARM afaik, on a board from china, with HDMI and DP, guys tried to hardwire my Dp ipad screen to it but it wouldn't boot. DP probably not working on rev1. Pity, would be a beast. | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 14:21 |
| ispn | Stskeeps: yes, I will, and I'll try to get the folks in the HS fired up about this, someone _will_ try to get it running once I'm done. I'll let you know then. | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | ispn: well, feel free to ask here on topics | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | mobile is exciting but also challenging | 14:22 |
| ispn | Yes, I'll get back here once I get Nemo running, or encounter issues. | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, trust me , you'll want to stay in here ;) | 14:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 14:23 |
| ispn | Stskeeps: yes, whole different world for me :/ I was like 'where do I start, what do I do', completely alien ground. | 14:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: feel free to add this chan to your autoconnect :D | 14:23 |
| ispn | Stskeeps: I want to already :D | 14:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: Stskeeps can mentor you (if he have time) | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | ispn: but anyway, i'm in .fi the next week, but after that i'm happy to try and help a bit in person | 14:24 |
| ispn | Sfiet_Konstantin: I connect manually, IRC is too compulsive for me, I waste away too much time. | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | (in hackerspace for example) | 14:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: ... | 14:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | still | 14:24 |
| ispn | Stskeeps: yes, that would be great! | 14:24 |
| ispn | Sfiet_Konstantin: Don't worry, I'll be coming here :) | 14:25 |
| ispn | Sfiet_Konstantin: also, I'm not much of a worthwhile addition to _anywhere_. I'm focusing on 3d modelling and animation, and _learning_ system/programming stuff in my free time. | 14:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ispn: why not | 14:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | everybody can hack | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | ispn: you should love opengl es shaders in QML then .. ;) | 14:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | +1 | 14:26 |
| ispn | Sfiet_Konstantin: so there's not much I can contribute code-wise, except for talking about it, showing it around. I can swear that if I get it running a dozen of people will get hooked on it. | 14:27 |
| ispn | Big if. | 14:27 |
| faenil | :) | 14:27 |
| ispn | Stskeeps: i've heard of people using Blender on tablets, they even get a new UI for this :D | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | ispn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-vBbqamNBU -- with mobile technologies | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | (bbl) | 14:28 |
| ispn | Stskeeps: full HD <-- OH WOW :O On a raspi?! this stuff is amazing! | 14:33 |
| dm8tbr | hint: the RPI GPU is n-times larger than the ARM core... | 14:34 |
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| ispn | dm8tbr: yes, I've heard that it sucks at a lot of tasks. Has considerable lag on audio as far as I've seen. I didn't feel driven to hack at it, time constraints won't let me :/ | 14:36 |
| ispn | Anyway! Got to go now, I'll get the tablet fastbooted - or not, and in either case, report back. | 14:36 |
| ispn | For the time being, I'll drop some info on the HS lists. If we manage I'll do a tutorial for these tablets. | 14:38 |
| ispn | So, off to work :) Thanks again! | 14:38 |
| faenil | :) great | 14:38 |
| faenil | cya! | 14:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | bye ispn | 14:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | see ya | 14:38 |
| alterego | scary: http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~traynor/papers/traynor-ccs11.pdf | 14:38 |
| faenil | alterego, there's an app on BB10 (android app) which measures your heartrate just by covering the camera with your finger | 14:40 |
| faenil | impressive | 14:40 |
| alterego | Coooool | 14:40 |
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| alterego | Yeah, never really thought too much about how you can use sensors for stuff like that. | 14:40 |
| faenil | yeah, but I mean, camera is covered...how are they measuring pulse? | 14:41 |
| faenil | with the mic maybe? | 14:41 |
| faenil | it's not like they can do img analysis | 14:41 |
| alterego | I'd imagine the small amount of light that goes through your skin. | 14:41 |
| alterego | Well, they might. | 14:41 |
| alterego | Is the mic situated right next to the camera? | 14:41 |
| faenil | alterego, don't know if there's a secondary mic | 14:42 |
| faenil | also, if it was the light it wouldn't work in the evening | 14:42 |
| alterego | I guess as it's an Android app, how could the writers know anyway. | 14:42 |
| faenil | lol | 14:42 |
| faenil | yeah :) | 14:42 |
| faenil | cool stuff anyway | 14:43 |
| dm8tbr | the CMOS-sensor Geiger-counter is quite real though | 14:43 |
| dm8tbr | not very good and accurate but real | 14:43 |
| alterego | Interesting. | 14:43 |
| dm8tbr | radiation causes sensor scintilation | 14:44 |
| alterego | It'd be cool if you could get at the hyper sensitive accel data from the image stabilizer in the cameras themselves. | 14:44 |
| dm8tbr | tape over the sensor and you can see those as bright blips in the pixels | 14:44 |
| alterego | I like the metal detecting magnetometer :) | 14:44 |
| alterego | dm8tbr: yeah, similar to the search for neutrinos. | 14:44 |
| dm8tbr | essentially, yes, same effect | 14:45 |
| faenil | cool | 14:45 |
| locusf | QGuiApplication::setFont(QFont("OpenSansRegular")); <- this doesn't work out of the box :/ | 14:46 |
| faenil | locusf, OpenSans-Regular ? | 14:47 |
| alterego | I heard someone else complaining about fonts yesterday. | 14:47 |
| faenil | alterego, probably me asking him to investigate :D | 14:47 |
| locusf | faenil: tried, didn't work | 14:47 |
| alterego | heh | 14:47 |
| faenil | locusf, ok, we have a test at least :D | 14:47 |
| faenil | test case | 14:47 |
| locusf | faenil: this is btw in main.cpp of colorful-home in case you're wondering | 14:48 |
| faenil | ok | 14:49 |
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| locusf | faenil: https://github.com/locusf/lipstick-colorful-home/commit/befc88b42c96995bd4ff615432b3c0cbad05b1ac | 14:56 |
| locusf | faenil: now it worked | 14:57 |
| faenil | ok, so this is not the bug we're looking for | 14:57 |
| locusf | faenil: ? | 14:58 |
| faenil | locusf, I don't know, I think someone said the bug was Qt not using the correct default font as specified | 14:59 |
| locusf | faenil: oh ok | 14:59 |
| faenil | w00t, ? | 15:00 |
| locusf | hmm the problem is that the font is applied only to application names in the launcher and lock screen and such. Launched applications don't respect colorful-homes font | 15:02 |
| faenil | ok, that maybe :) | 15:04 |
| faenil | locusf, hint: https://github.com/nemomobile/qt-components/blob/qtquick2/src/meego/plugin.cpp#L198 | 15:07 |
| faenil | so just have to make a small PR to that imho | 15:08 |
| locusf | faenil: ok | 15:09 |
| faenil | I can do that later if you want ;) no problem | 15:09 |
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| locusf | the PR? | 15:09 |
| locusf | sure | 15:10 |
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| alterego | Hmm, curry with friends then a party this evening. Woop! :) | 15:26 |
| faenil | :) | 15:26 |
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| faenil | isn't there a way to use recursive definition in js dictionaries? | 15:28 |
| faenil | as in | 15:28 |
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| faenil | var dict = { test: "lol", test2: test }.... | 15:28 |
| faenil | something like that | 15:28 |
| alterego | Not sure what you mean. | 15:29 |
| alterego | Do you mean something like: var dict = new Object(); dict.a.b.c.d = 'test'; ? | 15:29 |
| faenil | alterego, well, I want test2 to have same value as test | 15:29 |
| alterego | Sh, right | 15:29 |
| Anssi| | faenil, does not compile ;) | 15:29 |
| alterego | Then no | 15:29 |
| faenil | Anssi|, I know my example doesn't compile, I'm asking if js has a way to do that :P | 15:30 |
| alterego | You'd have to do: var a = 'test'; var dict = {test: a, test2: a} | 15:30 |
| faenil | yeah of course | 15:30 |
| faenil | was wondering if it had any language magic for my use case | 15:30 |
| faenil | alright, no problem | 15:30 |
| Anssi| | faenil, i made a custom parser for that | 15:30 |
| alterego | Nope. | 15:30 |
| faenil | Anssi|, oh :) | 15:31 |
| Anssi| | https://github.com/aetelani/flatbit/blob/master/tmp/bitson.txt | 15:31 |
| Anssi| | if i understand what you're trying to do | 15:32 |
| faenil | Anssi|, yes ;) | 15:32 |
| faenil | I had a dict with all theme values, I don't like having to put only one value in a separate var...pff | 15:34 |
| alterego | Heh, you should see some of the sick things I've been doing with JS recently ;) | 15:36 |
| faenil | :) | 15:36 |
| alterego | Well, soon enough I'll be releasing the project, so I guess anyone can ^.^ | 15:36 |
| faenil | so using a dict makes reuse of values more messy...got to change solution | 15:37 |
| alterego | faenil: there's also: var a = {}; a.test = 'test; a.test2 = a.test; | 15:38 |
| alterego | Or: var a = {}; a.test = a.test2 = 'test'; | 15:38 |
| faenil | alterego, I have all values well layed out...I don't want to scramble things just for that xD | 15:39 |
| alterego | hee,hee | 15:39 |
| faenil | imagine buttonColor = sliderColor = blaColor= anotherColor = commonColor; | 15:39 |
| Anssi| | faenil, maybe you just need to remake the object with all values | 15:42 |
| faenil | Anssi|, what do you mean? | 15:42 |
| Anssi| | faenil, when you said that you don't want to make extra var when values are already in dictionary/json object | 15:43 |
| faenil | yes | 15:43 |
| faenil | what do you mean by remaking the object with all values | 15:43 |
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| alterego | var o = {}; ['buttonColor', 'sliderColor'].forEach(function(k) {o[k] = '#00000'}); | 15:44 |
| alterego | What about that? :P | 15:44 |
| faenil | alterego, no way :D | 15:45 |
| alterego | :) | 15:45 |
| alterego | You could hack the prototype to allow something like: var o = {}; o.set(['test', 'test2'], '#000000'); | 15:46 |
| faenil | maybe if I use one js file for each theme I can use that extra var without messing around | 15:46 |
| alterego | Well, you could hack the prototype to allow: dict.set('test', 'test2', '#000000'); | 15:47 |
| Anssi| | faenil, when you talked about recursive of definition. i guess json is just plain serialization without recursion so it must be plain kind-of type. | 15:47 |
| faenil | alterego, nah, I want it to be as clean as possible | 15:47 |
| alterego | faenil: define your own dict? :) | 15:47 |
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| faenil | you mean the abstract data type? :D | 15:47 |
| Anssi| | i basically did it. | 15:48 |
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| faenil | but it shouldn't be needed here :) | 15:48 |
| Anssi| | added prefix so object instance knows how data is interpreted | 15:48 |
| Anssi| | probably is doesn't bring any added value tho. | 15:52 |
| faenil | I'll go the one file per theme way and see if that works out | 15:53 |
| faenil | it should be a good way to do it, keeping things clean | 15:53 |
| faenil | of doing* it | 15:53 |
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| Anssi| | i thought it would be clever way but.. meh. object interprets the structure as it pleases anyway, not sure will smarter parser bring too much value. Maybe in the case when it downloads remote references or something before object is actually instanced. | 15:53 |
| Anssi| | faenil, yep. kiss is always good way to go. | 15:54 |
| faenil | :) | 15:54 |
| Anssi| | without sexual harassment ofc. :S | 15:54 |
| faenil | lol | 15:54 |
| qwazix | aw, what a scrollback! lemme catch up | 15:55 |
| faenil | qwazix, sorry it's me making lots of noise when I'm here :D | 15:55 |
| Anssi| | these chans are too quiet anyway, difficult to believe that someone is actually doing here something :D | 15:56 |
| faenil | :D | 15:56 |
| faenil | mmm is there a way to dynamically import .js files? ehehehe :D | 16:01 |
| faenil | or maybe a wildcard on the import statement to load all js files in a folder? :D | 16:02 |
| faenil | asking for too much eh? XD | 16:03 |
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| qwazix | faenil, there's a way to dynamically load a qml so maybe there is | 16:11 |
| faenil | not same, unfortunatley | 16:11 |
| qwazix | dirty way: make a qml element with your dicts as properties and load that | 16:11 |
| faenil | yes that's the dirty way ;) | 16:12 |
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| qwazix | btw locusf, faenil I didn't really understand your font problem, but I think the correct font name is "Open Sans Regular" and not "OpenSansRegular" | 16:13 |
| faenil | qwazix, as you can read he already set the font correctly for colorful-home | 16:14 |
| locusf | qwazix: actuallt that filename provides "Open Sans" | 16:14 |
| faenil | the problem is I remember there was a deeper Qt fonr issue | 16:14 |
| qwazix | yeah, that's why I said I didn't really understand the problem, as I didn't expect the camelcased one to work | 16:15 |
| qwazix | the font names usually work by the name declared inside the font file, regardless of filename (i.e. the one shown with large size in the font viewer when you double-click the font on your desktop) | 16:16 |
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| qwazix | sorry scratch that, it is indeed "Open Sans" and it is the name that appears when you click info | 16:16 |
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| faenil | I'm reworking components structure, starting to differentiate from tizen choices :) | 16:23 |
| faenil | or maybe not....mmm | 16:29 |
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| ZogG_laptop | faenil: can i bug you again :) | 16:53 |
| ZogG_laptop | ? | 16:53 |
| faenil | why not :) | 16:53 |
| ZogG_laptop | mind if in private? | 16:55 |
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| faenil | ZogG_laptop, np | 16:56 |
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| faenil | QUrl::fromLocalFile("path/to/file") should return the path relative to my app folder, or am I missing something? | 17:13 |
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| locusf | not too sure | 17:22 |
| locusf | it could also be relative to working dir of the app | 17:22 |
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| faenil | yes | 17:24 |
| faenil | in any case, it is homePath here :( | 17:24 |
| faenil | both QDir::currentPath() shows homePath | 17:24 |
| locusf | ok | 17:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: what's your problem . | 17:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ? | 17:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: QCoreApplication::applicationDirPath ? | 17:40 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, I remember QUrl could open relative paths without using other static calls | 17:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: you shouldn't count on that | 17:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | especially if you embed this code in a lib and don't know where it is called etc | 17:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I usually only bet on absolute path | 17:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (just to be sure) | 17:41 |
| faenil | eh, of course that works, bad but works | 17:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | please :$, absolute path all the time ? | 17:41 |
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| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, ? | 17:45 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: please use absolute path all the time :D | 17:46 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, that is not a good thing man :P | 17:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that is | 17:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | a better thing than praying Qt to be able to retrieve your data | 17:46 |
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| faenil | bbl | 17:53 |
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| zbenjamin | re | 17:59 |
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| locusf | hmm interesting, commit --amend is much more flexible than I have thought | 19:02 |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/pull/26 | 19:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | locusf: indeed | 19:09 |
| locusf | I thought only commit msg's could be amended but I can just replace commit -m "message" with --amend when fixing it once changes have been staged | 19:11 |
| locusf | and then I would rebase -i squash it | 19:12 |
| locusf | qwazix: ping | 19:17 |
| locusf | qwazix: https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec/pull/4 | 19:17 |
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| faenil | o/ | 19:33 |
| locusf | \o | 19:33 |
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| zbenjamin | which one do i need to flash my n9? http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php one of the maemo_flasher binaries? | 19:35 |
| zbenjamin | ah i guess flasher_3.12.1_amd64.deb | 19:35 |
| faenil | yep | 19:35 |
| zbenjamin | what does that mean? An N950 that can flash the MOSLO, 34 and 39 work. | 19:36 |
| zbenjamin | what are those numbers? | 19:36 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: there is a new image? | 19:37 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, latest one is on wiki | 19:38 |
| faenil | uploaded today by locusf | 19:38 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, or what image are you talking about? | 19:38 |
| faenil | 34 and 39 are old Harmattan images | 19:38 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: yeah i was talking about a new nemo n9 image | 19:39 |
| zbenjamin | still can't decide if i should use dualboot or ubiboot | 19:39 |
| locusf | well the dual boot doesn't really work | 19:40 |
| locusf | so if you want real dualboot use ubiboot | 19:40 |
| zbenjamin | ok thanks | 19:40 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, also remember you have to change an env var in ubiboot .conf file | 19:54 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: i just want dualboot because the wiki says single boot is not recommendet ;) | 19:54 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, yes but nemo will not boot if you don't modify that .conf file :P | 19:54 |
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| zbenjamin | what about this method : https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Persistent_Single_Boot_by_Flashing_the_Dual_Boot | 19:55 |
| zbenjamin | i mean i don't need the nokia image on it ... seems this one is much less work | 19:55 |
| zbenjamin | and why should i waste space if i don't need to | 19:55 |
| faenil | can't help, I have n950, and I've always used dualboot or ubiboot | 19:56 |
| faenil | (and dualboot doesn't seem to work well on n9) | 19:56 |
| zbenjamin | hmpf ;) | 19:56 |
| zbenjamin | ubiboot looks like lots of work ;) | 19:56 |
| locusf | it probably is more work | 19:56 |
| faenil | yeah ubiboot's readme is a complete mess | 19:57 |
| faenil | it's not hard to setup, but that readme really scares the crap out of people | 19:57 |
| faenil | (me included, I wasted quite some time on it) | 19:57 |
| zbenjamin | flashing a custom android rom is a lot easier ;) | 19:59 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, ? | 19:59 |
| faenil | I don't think it's any different | 20:00 |
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| faenil | ah you mean on android devices | 20:00 |
| locusf | if you want to boot to harmattan you can just reflash the stock kernel | 20:00 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: yes | 20:01 |
| zbenjamin | locusf: sounds good, i just want it as a nemo development device | 20:01 |
| locusf | zbenjamin: ok so just go with the dualboot instructions then, don't use ubiboot | 20:01 |
| locusf | zbenjamin: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Persistent_Single_Boot_by_Flashing_the_Dual_Boot | 20:02 |
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| zbenjamin | locusf: thx | 20:02 |
| locusf | zbenjamin: np | 20:03 |
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| zbenjamin | bbl , cinema time ;) | 20:03 |
| faenil | ;) | 20:04 |
| zbenjamin | lets see if the new riddick movie rocks | 20:04 |
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| faenil | qwazix, ping | 21:12 |
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| ZogG_laptop | faenil: go to sleep :P | 21:19 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop, can't sleep anymore, just discovered Button doesn't expose x and y of pressed event | 21:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | mwahahaha | 21:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: i made that thing i was trying in qml | 21:20 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop, good :) | 21:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | the point is that i used quitquick1.1 only | 21:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | so it actually helped me to learn a little bit | 21:21 |
| faenil | :) | 21:21 |
| faenil | well qtquick2 is the same | 21:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | maybe one day i'll make commits for nemo :P | 21:21 |
| faenil | just backend changed | 21:21 |
| faenil | changes | 21:21 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop, now you're talking, finally :P | 21:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: actually i thought of lipstick alone | 21:22 |
| faenil | :) | 21:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | but as i checked it depends on a lot of nemo/meggo stuff | 21:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | i wanted to run it on top of other distro | 21:22 |
| faenil | yeah | 21:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | not that easy | 21:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | :) | 21:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | ok | 21:23 |
| faenil | nope :) | 21:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | gotta go to sleep | 21:23 |
| faenil | yeah me too | 21:23 |
| faenil | but I'm angry with button now xD | 21:23 |
| faenil | ffs | 21:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | g8 | 21:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: you can see it as you'll know what to do tomorrow :) | 21:23 |
| faenil | instead of studying xD | 21:24 |
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