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| faenil | morning o/ | 08:58 |
| locusf | morn | 09:00 |
| faenil | locusf, hey how you doing :) | 09:00 |
| locusf | good | 09:00 |
| locusf | and you? | 09:01 |
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| faenil | locusf, good ;) | 09:06 |
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| faenil | does anyone happen to know the current status of ngfd? | 10:21 |
| faenil | it doesn't seem to be running correctly on Nemo Wayland | 10:21 |
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| faenil | w00t, debugging a problem I found out we're missing qt5 ffmemless plugin in Nemo (it's in Jolla repos in the emulator), can you create the package on OBS so that I can make the webhook? | 10:53 |
| w00t | faenil: wrong way around: you create the webhook and trigger it, and it creates the package on OBS | 10:59 |
| w00t | no manual intervention required | 10:59 |
| faenil | w00t, oh :) I thought empty package creation on OBS was needed | 10:59 |
| faenil | great then, I'll just create the webhook | 11:00 |
| faenil | w00t, does it take the .spec file with the same name as the package name? | 11:00 |
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| w00t | yes | 11:01 |
| faenil | w00t, what about :testing repo? do I have to care about it? | 11:06 |
| Hurrian | juiceme: how's your sabretsq kernel? I tried building 3.5.3 from the latest git source, and it doesn't boot under Ubiboot. | 11:08 |
| w00t | faenil: just work on devel, from time to time, things are synced up to testing to provide some level of stability | 11:12 |
| faenil | nothing, qt5 ffmemless wasn't the issue it seems... | 11:12 |
| faenil | w00t, alright | 11:12 |
| faenil | can't get nfgd service to work...thought "ERROR: can't find ffmemless plugin file" was the issue, but there is the same error on sailfish emul | 11:13 |
| faenil | yet ngfd service starts successfully there | 11:13 |
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| w00t | run with ngfd -v -v -v -v | 11:15 |
| faenil | w00t, oh so this is what the level variable was for in the code :D | 11:15 |
| faenil | w00t, it seems like ffmemless is option in Sailfish emul, and mandatory on nemo wayland | 11:19 |
| faenil | optional* | 11:19 |
| faenil | on sailfish emul last errors are | 11:19 |
| faenil | [0.088] ERROR: core: unable to load plugin 'ffmemless' | 11:19 |
| faenil | [0.089] INFO: core: optional plugin ffmemless not loaded. | 11:19 |
| faenil | while on Nemo, [1.4294966457] ERROR: core: unable to load plugin 'ffmemless' | 11:20 |
| faenil | is the last one | 11:20 |
| faenil | otoh, on sailfish it ends with [0.108] ERROR: core: input 'dbus' failed to initialize | 11:22 |
| w00t | did you remember to stop the existing instance first? :) | 11:24 |
| faenil | w00t, no I didn't :) now the difference is more visible, on Sailfish it doesn't crash :D on Nemo it ends with the same error | 11:26 |
| faenil | it really seems Jolla is using modified sourcecode in which ffmemless has been set as optional plugin | 11:26 |
| w00t | plugins are configured (so to be clearer: no, there is no difference in source code, only different configuration) | 11:28 |
| faenil | w00t, yeah the .ini file I guess | 11:29 |
| faenil | which specifies plugins | 11:29 |
| * faenil is giving a look at ngfd's sourcecode | 11:31 | |
| faenil | right...g_key_file_get_string_list (keyfile, "general", "plugins-optional" | 11:32 |
| faenil | it looks for plugins-optional in the .ini | 11:32 |
| faenil | w00t, why hasn't that been applied to the official repo? | 11:32 |
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| w00t | root cause: simply because we don't use that configuration | 11:35 |
| faenil | w00t, so we need a separate package for VM? | 11:35 |
| w00t | no, just patch it | 11:35 |
| faenil | w00t, oh you meant because you don't use that repo | 11:36 |
| w00t | we don't use the configuration files in that repository | 11:36 |
| w00t | if you'd do a diff between the sailfish ngf configuration and the ones in that repository, you'd notice they are different | 11:36 |
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| faenil | w00t, actually it's exactly the same apart from that ffmemless optional stuff | 11:37 |
| w00t | there are more differences that have not been released yet | 11:37 |
| faenil | ok | 11:38 |
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| w00t | (pulley menus play through it now) | 11:38 |
| Hurrian | by the way, anyone had their N9/50's rtc reset after a kernel panic? | 11:38 |
| faenil | and I guess they include 3rd party or proprietary stuff which can't be backported | 11:38 |
| w00t | no | 11:38 |
| w00t | it just hasn't gone through QA/release cycle yet | 11:38 |
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| w00t | it will most likely be in the next SDK release | 11:38 |
| w00t | but it's nothing of interest to you anyway | 11:38 |
| faenil | w00t, you're misunderstanding | 11:39 |
| faenil | my question is, why is jolla using different configs, instead of staying as close as possible to Nemo (which would avoid such situations :P) | 11:40 |
| w00t | because the configurations are (increasingly) UI-specific | 11:40 |
| faenil | yeah, that's what I meant with "proprietary stuff" | 11:40 |
| w00t | we have custom effects that apply to our UI (pulley menus, which nemo does not have), we may want our own haptic effects | 11:40 |
| faenil | ok it's clear now thanks | 11:40 |
| faenil | yes, clear thanks | 11:41 |
| w00t | it's not that they are proprietary, it's that they don't or shouldn't apply to nemo | 11:41 |
| faenil | yeah | 11:41 |
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| faenil | w00t, why wasn't the "optional" suffix required so far? | 11:46 |
| w00t | because there wasn't a VM before :) | 11:46 |
| faenil | nfgd wasn't used in Nemo VMs? :) | 11:46 |
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| faenil | w00t, any ETA for the theme fix sledgeSim also asked about? | 13:02 |
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| faenil | because, well, we're missing Toolbars...it's difficult to port apps with missing components :/ | 13:15 |
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| faenil | w00t, special https://github.com/nemomobile/voicecall-ui-reference/pull/2 | 13:43 |
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| faenil | w00t, special: another one https://github.com/nemomobile/mapplauncherd-booster-qtcomponents/pull/2 | 14:30 |
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| faenil | did anyone ever try using LocalStorage.openDatabaseSync in a .js file? | 16:27 |
| faenil | QtQuick2 | 16:28 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: worth asking on #qt ? | 17:03 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, fixed already, there was a package missing in Nemo, but js wouldn't say anything about it :P | 17:04 |
| faenil | no warning, no error | 17:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yes, debugging in js is painfully painful | 17:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | there are sometimes just silent drops | 17:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (it depends on where you are using the js function, but on some bindings, it is silent) | 17:05 |
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| piggz_ | faenil: i tried using localstorage once, then quicky wrapped QSettings and used that instead ;) | 17:48 |
| faenil | piggz_, I'm porting nemo apps :) don't want to rewrite it ;) | 17:49 |
| faenil | anyway, it's not for settings, it really needs a db ;) | 17:49 |
| piggz_ | faenil: shouldnt you be working on making lipstick work? :D | 17:52 |
| faenil | piggz_, like what? | 17:53 |
| faenil | anyway, we need to port apps to Qt5 | 17:53 |
| faenil | now, if only I'd understand why it works ok without the booster, but doesn't work properlty when started with qtcomponents-qt5 booster... | 17:56 |
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| Morpog | faenil, have you seen this? http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/13080004.jpg | 17:58 |
| faenil | yes | 17:58 |
| piggz_ | faenil: what app is it? | 17:59 |
| faenil | qmlnotes | 17:59 |
| faenil | every time I spend few minutes porting to Qt5, and hours debugging weird problems like this | 18:01 |
| faenil | and with all the theme issues we have it's difficult to understand where the problem is | 18:03 |
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| Jonni | faenil: how does your invoker commandline look like? | 19:34 |
| faenil | invoker --single-instance --type=qtcomponents-qt5 /usr/bin/blabla | 19:34 |
| faenil | I think it's a problem with the database it creates | 19:35 |
| faenil | because using booster, the app gets a new folder inside /home/nemo/.local/ all the times it's run | 19:35 |
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| Jonni | --type=silica-qt5 | 19:35 |
| Jonni | maybe that will work better :) | 19:36 |
| faenil | Jonni, we're on nemo here :D | 19:36 |
| Jonni | ah, sorry, my crosseyes :) | 19:36 |
| faenil | :) | 19:36 |
| special | what exactly isn't working? | 19:37 |
| special | ah.. hm, is it not setting QApplication:: applicationName or one of those, and choosing a different location because of the booster process name? | 19:38 |
| faenil | special, yeah it's using booster process to name a new folder every time | 19:39 |
| faenil | do I need applicationName? | 19:39 |
| special | yes | 19:40 |
| faenil | ok, let's see, thank you | 19:40 |
| special | that problem should be revisited with Qt5 to see if there's any better solution now.. | 19:40 |
| special | harmattan used a really nasty Qt patch | 19:40 |
| faenil | oh | 19:41 |
| special | but it's only the default applicationName/etc, if you set one manually it should be fine. | 19:41 |
| faenil | special, set appname, but it's still using custom folder | 19:43 |
| special | then look into how it picks the name of that folder and override it | 19:43 |
| special | could be organization name too, or something like that. | 19:44 |
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| faenil | doesn't really seem to be choosing it :D https://github.com/nemomobile/mapplauncherd-qt/blob/master/mdeclarativecache5/mdeclarativecache.cpp#L54 | 19:55 |
| special | no | 19:56 |
| special | look into how the db code is picking its path and change that | 19:57 |
| special | it's probably using something like organizationName + applicationName | 19:57 |
| special | or something else you can trivially override in your code | 19:57 |
| faenil | ok ;) | 19:59 |
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| faenil | https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtdeclarative/blobs/stable/src/qml/qml/qqmlengine.cpp#line758 | 20:12 |
| faenil | and https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtbase/blobs/stable/src/corelib/io/qstandardpaths_unix.cpp#line93 | 20:12 |
| faenil | yet, it's avoiding my organization and application name, so I have to check if Mer has some special patch for that | 20:13 |
| special | it doesn't | 20:14 |
| faenil | ok | 20:14 |
| special | all you need to do is QCoreApplication::setApplicationName and setOrganizationName and it should be fine | 20:14 |
| special | do that early, before initializing the QML engine | 20:14 |
| special | ..which could, I suppose, be a problem if the pre-created QQuickView initializes that engine. hmm. | 20:14 |
| faenil | yep | 20:15 |
| faenil | well, I'm setting that between qApplication and qQuickView | 20:15 |
| faenil | let's ee | 20:15 |
| special | it won't help, this one is a more serious bug | 20:16 |
| faenil | yay | 20:16 |
| special | the engine is created before the booster ever calls into your code, and it's evaluating the paths only then | 20:17 |
| special | workaround is to use the qtquick2 booster instead of qtcomponents-qt5 | 20:17 |
| special | that one shouldn't initialize the engine before you get a chance to set the names | 20:18 |
| faenil | I'm so lucky with bugs :D | 20:18 |
| special | QQmlEngine::setOfflineStoragePath might be another workaroun | 20:20 |
| special | d | 20:20 |
| faenil | yep | 20:20 |
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| faenil | I'm setting appname and orgname right after qApp, and it doesn't help with qtquick2 booster either | 20:21 |
| faenil | special, QQmlEngine did it (as expected)...but qtquick2 booster didn't help | 20:24 |
| special | ok | 20:24 |
| faenil | this needs a fix though, or a big warning | 20:34 |
| faenil | most likely applies to silica booster as well | 20:34 |
| special | it needs to be fixed, yes | 20:34 |
| faenil | special, also, sometimes I swipe to send app to background, and it's closed | 20:35 |
| faenil | I don't understand when it happens, seems random | 20:36 |
| special | with colorful-home? | 20:36 |
| faenil | yep | 20:36 |
| special | if it supports swipe-down-to-close or something, a bug in that could be why | 20:36 |
| special | or they could just be crashing. | 20:36 |
| faenil | this is what happens | 20:37 |
| faenil | file:///usr/lib/qt5/qml/com/nokia/meego/ScrollDecorator.qml:173:9: QML Image: Failed to get image from provider: image://theme/meegotouch-positionindicator-background | 20:37 |
| faenil | Detectable autorepeat not supported. | 20:37 |
| faenil | invoker: error: Can't send signal 11 to application [1653]: No such process | 20:37 |
| faenil | Segmentation fault | 20:37 |
| special | so, crashing. | 20:37 |
| faenil | yep | 20:38 |
| faenil | when sent to background | 20:38 |
| faenil | damn, now it's always crashing, can't reproduce normal behaviour, lol | 20:39 |
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| faenil | special, got it, here's the other case | 20:40 |
| faenil | Detectable autorepeat not supported. | 20:40 |
| faenil | The wayland connection broke (error 11). Did the wayland compositor die? | 20:40 |
| faenil | QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 6 and type 'Read', disabling... | 20:40 |
| faenil | The wayland connection broke (error 32). Did the wayland compositor die? | 20:40 |
| faenil | probably a bug in the QML compositor, on in lipstick lib itself | 20:41 |
| faenil | or* | 20:41 |
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| faenil | special, any idea why after db.changeVersion | 21:16 |
| faenil | the version is still the old one? | 21:16 |
| special | no | 21:16 |
| faenil | old qmlnotes db code isn't working anymore | 21:17 |
| faenil | as it seems the version changes in different times compared to Qt4 | 21:17 |
| faenil | and the db code that was there relies on this timing | 21:17 |
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