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| stephg | anyone else having trouble with the ux on the latest release | 08:40 |
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| stephg | (by UX I mean everything, I have no X, no nadda, though the wifi is working) | 08:41 |
| w00t | stephg: check journalctl -f | 08:43 |
| w00t | Netweaver: there's no time like the present to get involved.. ;) | 08:43 |
| stephg | yeah X is hosed, no screens | 08:44 |
| w00t | stephg: what exact message are you getting | 08:45 |
| w00t | and what device is this | 08:45 |
| stephg | n9, very first error in my Xorg.log is Failed to load module "modesetting" (module does not exist, 0), | 08:46 |
| stephg | then the same for fbdev | 08:46 |
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| Netweaver | w00t: Happy to keep my on N900 on the bleeding edge, daily and keep feeding back issues, if it helps, as I have another main phone when I'm in NL. My last night rnd/devel updated N900 box is running ok with X, just the Settings application is only showing connection settings for WIFI. it looks like all the rest is gone in the connectivity area. Also GSM functionality is gone. No connection to telco. Antenna with x. All since yest evening. | 08:49 |
| diskreet | speaking of X's, how the heck do i end programs in the new build? the previous X icon is missing | 08:51 |
| Netweaver | diskreet: nice intro to recent versions of Nemo : http://xavinux.blogspot.com.ar | 08:52 |
| diskreet | also if I'm asking stupid things and all this is documented somewhere, much obliged if you give a li.... | 08:52 |
| diskreet | thanks (^_-)b | 08:52 |
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| w00t | Netweaver: mobile data settings need to make a comeback somehow, probably just a matter of someone writing the necessary UI for it in qmlsettings.. what happens if you start pinquery? (check journalctl -f while you run it) | 08:54 |
| w00t | stephg: hrm | 08:56 |
| w00t | stephg: can you please: journalctl > foo.log, and get foo.log out of your device and pastebinned somewherE? | 08:56 |
| stephg | aye | 08:56 |
| stephg | w00t here you go: http://pastie.org/8081654 | 09:03 |
| * w00t looks | 09:04 | |
| Netweaver | w00t: pinquery not found, also 'find pinquery' ... nothing. looks like some packages got removed "magically"? PIN entry in app home screen also not doing anything. But it seems somehow the phone subsystem is working because i had a missed call notification while I didn't see the incoming call coming itself. | 09:04 |
| w00t | Netweaver: qmlpinquery | 09:04 |
| w00t | stephg: zypper search mesa (pastebin result) | 09:05 |
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| stephg | w00t, I have four installed | 09:05 |
| stephg | http://pastie.org/8081664 | 09:05 |
| w00t | yeah, that's erm, bad on an n9 | 09:06 |
| w00t | how did that happen? | 09:06 |
| stephg | not quite sure | 09:06 |
| stephg | (this n9 is beat up though) | 09:07 |
| w00t | zypper in ti-omap3-sgx, it should offer to remove the llvmpipe packages | 09:07 |
| stephg | could be I did something daft but I've not had all that much time to mess it up | 09:07 |
| stephg | okies | 09:07 |
| w00t | (does it?) | 09:07 |
| stephg | trying that now and will reboot | 09:07 |
| stephg | it does yeah | 09:07 |
| stephg | rebooting | 09:08 |
| * stephg twiddles thumbs | 09:08 | |
| w00t | if you ever see an update offering to install mesa llvmpipe related packages on an n9/n950/n900, something is almost certainly very wrong | 09:08 |
| stephg | roger | 09:09 |
| stephg | hmm still no X | 09:14 |
| stephg | w00t do I need xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx | 09:14 |
| stephg | as well? | 09:14 |
| w00t | sec.. | 09:14 |
| w00t | zypper search -t pattern | 09:16 |
| stephg | http://pastie.org/8081695 | 09:17 |
| sledges | 12:21 < Netweaver> it might even help a bit more if you would provide a thumb version of all binaries/repositories, as the latest u-boot from pali already sets all flags needed to be able to run thumb binaries. With the old, memory challenged N900 it might make a difference. | 09:18 |
| sledges | 17:10 < sledges> Netweaver, gave a go: https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3Anemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Ati%3Aomap3%3An900 (should ask Stskeeps or Sage if that's going to be sane though) | 09:18 |
| sledges | w00t, why would thumb need qemu? | 09:18 |
| sledges | when talking only about a build for n900 | 09:18 |
| w00t | sledges: actual compilation does not take place on hardware, but in qemu | 09:19 |
| w00t | (+ sb2 acceleration) | 09:19 |
| sledges | ah, on OBS | 09:19 |
| sledges | so some of the HA packages might fail (e.g. GLES/EGL and family..) | 09:20 |
| w00t | basically, there's a bunch of packages that segfault when compiling at the moment | 09:21 |
| sledges | got you | 09:23 |
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| w00t | stephg: sorry, didn't realise you replied | 09:58 |
| stephg | w00t, no worries | 09:58 |
| w00t | Sage: what pattern is nokia-n950-support? and what pattern is right for n950 HW support? (stephg needs to reinstall it) | 09:59 |
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| sledges | w00t, here's the definition of that pattern: http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/repos/hw/ti/omap3/n950-n9/0.20130619.0.1/armv7hl/repodata/patterns.xml.gz | 10:07 |
| sledges | it should've gotten pulled in together with nemo-n950 pattern | 10:08 |
| w00t | well, it won't be marked as installed if everything isn't there | 10:08 |
| sledges | stephg, please do ssu s | 10:09 |
| w00t | but then, stephg: zypper install -t pattern nokia-n950-support | 10:09 |
| stephg | kk | 10:09 |
| stephg | w00t, it did pull in xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx by the looks of it | 10:10 |
| stephg | rebooting | 10:10 |
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| sledges | i'm worried about this one: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2013-06-24.log.html#t2013-06-24T16:01:28 | 10:11 |
| xavinux | hi people | 10:11 |
| sledges | hya xavinux | 10:12 |
| xavinux | well thanks sledges | 10:12 |
| w00t | o/ xavinux | 10:14 |
| xavinux | updating my blog with the last releases links and images for instalaltion.... | 10:15 |
| sledges | just use the ~latest~ URLs ;) | 10:16 |
| sledges | symlinked | 10:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 10:17 |
| xavinux | yes I do | 10:18 |
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| xavinux | I have problem when installing i486 or i586 vm on virtualbox to Hard Disk: "ERROR : '/tmp/sysimage/di is not a subvolume" I found that image can be install to Hard Disk ok with the installer-shell, if I login via SSH and run it but not through the Fingerterm terminal. After installation via SSH i586 boots ok. Have /tmp/install.log logfiles | 10:27 |
| * w00t doesn't know anything about x86 side of things, unfortunately | 10:27 | |
| xavinux | ok :) | 10:27 |
| xavinux | so I post in my blog the installation via SSH so as to be able to run the installer-shell script | 10:28 |
| sledges | xavinux, I will update the wiki on that temporarily | 10:29 |
| xavinux | and then everything runs ok | 10:29 |
| xavinux | ok | 10:29 |
| sledges | could you file a bugreport please? | 10:29 |
| sledges | thanks for the find! | 10:29 |
| xavinux | will be better if I find the reason... :) | 10:30 |
| sledges | a workaround is better than nothing ;) | 10:30 |
| xavinux | have to investigate a little more, not have time, have to install a Red Hta Server in my work | 10:30 |
| xavinux | *Red Hat | 10:31 |
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| sledges | xavinux, the solution might be to do PATH=$PATH:/sbin installer-shell | 10:35 |
| sledges | or always login as root (not nemo) , be it VM virtual console or ssh | 10:37 |
| xavinux | sledges: yes that was I prepare to my post. Login as root form a Linux terminal and run th installer-shell } | 10:38 |
| sledges | the problem is that /sbin is not in the path - could you confirm it? | 10:38 |
| sledges | so you can login as root also from VM (HostKey+F2) | 10:38 |
| sledges | it should work (no need to ssh) as long as you're logging in as root immediately | 10:38 |
| sledges | (not using su) | 10:39 |
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| xavinux | yes, but think ssh terminal most confortable for work than the root terminal of Fingerterm. But I will test those options and tell you my results} | 10:40 |
| sledges | im testing it now ;) | 10:42 |
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| sledges | xavinux, also made a bugreport: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Finalizing_the_installation | 10:55 |
| xavinux | sledges: ok, finish updating post and will made the bugreport | 10:56 |
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| sledges | the bugreport is already made, nw (bug 680) | 10:56 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 680 in Terminal "installer-shell fails under FingerTerm" [Normal,New] https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=680 | 10:56 |
| sledges | the wiki now shows quick ways to make it work | 10:57 |
| sledges | (yes, it is easier to work via ssh, but some people would like to just try nemo quickly, without setting up too much, so HostKey+F2 method is also now valid) | 10:57 |
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| xavinux | http://xavinux.blogspot.com.ar/2013/06/installing-nemo-vm-on-virtualbox.html Nemo VM installation on virtualbox. Updated | 11:35 |
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| sledges | good work for those who love ssh! ;) | 11:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ssh is everybody's friend | 11:39 |
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| xavinux | afetr testing HostKey+F2) will add it too, but if installer-shell didn´t work after running su comand in fingerterm, perhaps would'nt work in root's Nemo terminal. But I will test it... | 11:41 |
| xavinux | *after | 11:41 |
| xavinux | thanks sledges :) | 11:42 |
| sledges | xavinux, i thought the same, but it's fingerterm's problem | 11:44 |
| sledges | it works in hostkey (don't ask my why), if PATH change is prepended | 11:44 |
| xavinux | I supose that too, because if it works via ssh and don't work with fingerterm, must be a problem of the app | 11:45 |
| w00t | fingerterm has the whle environment set up, ssh doesn't (yet, maybe it will someday) | 11:49 |
| sledges | fingerterm has something more wrong there, because as nemo and su PATH /sbin installer-shell works via ssh, but exactly the same sequence doesnt work with fingerterm | 11:50 |
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| xavinux | seldges: yes I test it and running installer-shell from HostKey runs and installs ok | 12:09 |
| sledges | with PATH ? | 12:11 |
| sledges | (when via su) | 12:11 |
| xavinux | withou PATH. login as root and run installer-shell | 12:13 |
| xavinux | *without | 12:13 |
| xavinux | testing as nemo user with su command.... | 12:14 |
| xavinux | from hostkey shell | 12:14 |
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| sledges | that one will need PATH | 12:24 |
| sledges | (just like ssh with user nemo instead of root will need PATH too) | 12:24 |
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| xavinux | I goin as nemo and see installer-shell in /usr/sbin/ | 12:25 |
| xavinux | *login | 12:26 |
| xavinux | although I run PATH=$PATH:/sbin installer-shell give an error of too many arguments | 12:29 |
| sledges | xavinux, as root ? | 12:30 |
| xavinux | "no disk large enough" disk is a 4GB size in virtualbox | 12:30 |
| xavinux | as root all goes ok | 12:31 |
| sledges | it has to be root | 12:31 |
| sledges | just if you login with nemo, then you must su | 12:31 |
| xavinux | I do it, but error is receive | 12:31 |
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| xavinux | also try "su nemo /usr/sbin/installer-shell " and after enter password error "no disk large enough" appears. Disk is a 4GB size in virtualbox | 12:37 |
| sledges | xavinux, "su nemo" means you are running as user nemo - it's not root | 12:38 |
| xavinux | yes that is | 12:38 |
| xavinux | as root everything is ok | 12:39 |
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| sledges | so no problem ;) | 12:40 |
| xavinux | no, only when tryin with nemo user... | 12:40 |
| xavinux | *trying | 12:40 |
| xavinux | as root runs ok | 12:40 |
| sledges | installer-shell requires superuser permissions | 12:40 |
| sledges | it will always fail otherwise | 12:40 |
| sledges | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJzCYSdrHMI | 12:41 |
| sledges | :) | 12:41 |
| xavinux | :) | 12:41 |
| sledges | (surely, you can try SUID etc ;)) | 12:41 |
| sledges | (and even make an installer-shell app on desktop :D) | 12:41 |
| xavinux | ok. I will add later to the blog the option of running installer-shell from hostkey as root | 12:42 |
| kimju | is there any known problems that I can expect to encounter if I were to try to set up nemo to run on a beagleboard? | 12:43 |
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| sledges | kimju, there aren't any known problems, because recently so far only one person has tried it publicly | 12:50 |
| sledges | :) | 12:50 |
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| sledges | xmlich02 has hacked at home and launched nemo (very bare minimal version) on TI Sitara CPU (same chip for beagle) | 12:51 |
| sledges | https://twitter.com/xmlich02/status/340051961963499521 | 12:52 |
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| sledges | a separate effort has been done in the past (with hardware acceleration and other proper stuff), don't know about results. you are welcome to play with its hardware adaptation repo, depending on how keen you are ;) | 12:53 |
| sledges | ping me if you're interested kimju | 12:53 |
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| sledges | ok let's break it down: | 12:57 |
| kimju | well, I need to setup a beagle for some demonstration and can spend some time doing it.. so might as well try to use nemo as a base. (only requirement is that this something is done on a beagle) | 12:57 |
| sledges | BeagleBoard (Rev. C4) - OMAP3530 | 12:58 |
| sledges | Nokia N900 - OMAP3430 | 12:58 |
| sledges | Nokia N9/940 - OMAP3630 | 12:58 |
| sledges | sorry, don't know the status of nemo for the simple beagleboard | 12:59 |
| sledges | BeagleBoard xM - TI DM3730 | 12:59 |
| sledges | BeagleBone - TI Sitara (AM3xxx) | 13:00 |
| sledges | for xM is the repo I mentioned: https://build.merproject.org/project/packages?project=home%3Asledge%3Abeagle | 13:00 |
| sledges | BeagleBone (Black) is the same AM335 SoC that xmlich02 did | 13:02 |
| sledges | but no repo available | 13:02 |
| sledges | so which one is your beagle flavour kimju ? :) | 13:02 |
| kimju | plain or xm, as I need the peripherals on those. | 13:02 |
| sledges | then I suggest to go with xM and try to make that repo work for you | 13:03 |
| sledges | PS: xM also better, as it has 512 RAM (plain beagleboard has only 256 MB, which is not really enough for Nemo) | 13:04 |
| sledges | probably explains why there was never a repo for plain bb :D | 13:04 |
| kimju | we have few plain beagles laying around here, so might start with those while waiting for a xm. and we can always swap on sd, this doesn't need to be fast ;) | 13:05 |
| kimju | but good to know that there is at least no known showstoppers, that is good enough for me for now. | 13:06 |
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| sledges | erm.... plain bb will be tricky ;) don't forget, it is omap35xx, we have no exact HAs for that one (you should get your own uboot and kernel tailored for bb, so you can't reuse existing N9xx ones), so you'll end up building your own bb HA repo basically from scratch | 13:08 |
| sledges | and if you want to swap out to SD, nemo will take many minutes to boot and run every time.. | 13:08 |
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| xavinux | sledges Bugs =509 and 680 can be closed?....as when we login as root installer-shell runs ok... | 13:10 |
| sledges | if you want to play with nemo whilst waiting for xm (discover how nemo works etc), start with VM. if you want on physical hardware, i suggest pandaboard instead | 13:10 |
| sledges | xavinux, 509 no, because it still needs PATH=$PATH:/sbin | 13:10 |
| sledges | 680 no, becaue we still cannot do this via fingerterm ;) | 13:11 |
| xavinux | ok understand :) | 13:13 |
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| xavinux | sladges: I will install the Mer platform SDK on Kubuntu machine | 13:23 |
| sledges | xavinux, have you blogged about how to do PySide on Nemo by the way? if you haven't, it would be nice ;) | 13:24 |
| xavinux | ok prepare my hello world Pyside program and blogged about it | 13:25 |
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| sledges | big thanks :) | 13:38 |
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| xavinux | :) | 13:43 |
| diskreet | yes xavinux, good stuff in the blog! | 13:43 |
| xavinux | thnaksdiskreet, happy to be useful | 13:44 |
| xavinux | :) | 13:44 |
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| Superpelican | lol, playing supertuxkart while running make, cpu load: 98% :P | 13:46 |
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| cybette | http://dot.kde.org/2013/06/26/akademy-2013-keynote-jollas-vesa-matti-hartikainen | 15:15 |
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| HtheB | anyone know how i can get the rootfs with 'dd' ? | 15:28 |
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| xavinux | sledges: I will install the Mer platform SDK on ubuntu machine. What I supose to be able to do once it is running? | 16:07 |
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| sledges | xavinux, you can compile nemo apps and make changes to them! :) | 22:29 |
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