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| niqt | morning | 06:56 |
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| Sage | ANNOUNCEMENT: nemo devel is starting to build against mer:qt:devel now. So when updating you need to do zypper ref;zypper dup twice after the repos finish building as first update installs new ssu repos package with new repo urls. | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | err.. | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | that wasn't what i asked | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | i asked to add a seperate repository that pointed towards mer:qt:devel so we can check how things build | 07:57 |
| Sage | oh... | 07:58 |
| Sage | well, you didn't explain clearly enough :D | 07:58 |
| * Sage curses | 07:58 | |
| Stskeeps | also https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=nemo-ssu-repos&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Amw&repository=next_i486 | 07:59 |
| Sage | hmmp | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | no need to keep the builders busy while we fix stuff, so just i486 and armv7hl | 07:59 |
| phaeron | Sage: BuildRequire: oneshot | 08:00 |
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| phaeron | BuildRequires: oneshot | 08:00 |
| Sage | phaeron: yes | 08:01 |
| Sage | local build succeeded as I had the dependency there already :/ | 08:01 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: maybe those qt test bulids should be done with prjlink instead? | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: not impossible but it's important to not do what you just did ;) | 08:04 |
| * Sage reverts | 08:05 | |
| Sage | Stskeeps: in the end we want to do that what I did, right? After this initial thing is done? | 08:08 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: but I would currently suggest that you do prjlink from nemo:devel:mw to mer:qt:devel:nemo-mw or something? | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | in the end yes | 08:10 |
| Sage | adding "random" repos to nemo:* is not very nice solution as it get messy very easily. | 08:11 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | w00t: how the commits for nemo-qml-plugin-social should look when picked by git-tar ? | 11:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | [nemo-qml-plugin-social] ? | 11:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and what if I have a huge set of commits ? Should I tag just the last one or all of them ? | 11:16 |
| w00t | the stuff between [] is up to you | 11:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | w00t: so you only need a [] ? | 11:17 |
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| w00t | you can put the package name, the 'area' of things you're changing, a sort of descriptive keyword ('[packaging] added dependency to $foo') | 11:19 |
| w00t | whatever you feel like | 11:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | cool | 11:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and about the second question ? | 11:19 |
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| w00t | 'tag' as in 'do i include brackety stuff' or 'do i create a git tag'? | 11:29 |
| w00t | include brackety stuff for every important commit | 11:30 |
| w00t | create as many git tags as you want | 11:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ok | 11:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it was about brackety stuff | 11:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so important commit | 11:44 |
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| nodevel | Hey, is there any new Nemo snapshot on the way? I try to update it with zypper, using these instructions: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Updating but it crashes every time rendering the system unbootable. | 13:47 |
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| sledges | nodevel: 16:15 < Sage> sledges: hi. have been quite busy with stuff. Trying currently to fix nemo devel to promote stuff forwards and to make snapshot | 13:47 |
| sledges | that answers your both questions I think ) | 13:47 |
| nodevel | sledges: Thanks, I wasn't connected so didn't see that answer. Take your time, I was just afraid that since it now is possible to upgrade using zypper, snapshots would be released only one a year or so. :) | 13:49 |
| nodevel | *once a year | 13:50 |
| sledges | even though your nick contradicts, I think you are running the devel flavour of nemo? ;) | 13:50 |
| sledges | let's say snapshots become infrequent, and you do zypper dup on a :devel: flavour, you might end up with a broken system once every fortnight. The :testing: flavour however should never break your system (:stable: will not 100% , once that's ready) | 13:54 |
| sledges | s/100%/99.(9)% ;)/ | 13:55 |
| nodevel | sledges: Oh, I guess I'm not that familiar with the flavours. | 13:55 |
| sledges | hm :) https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Updating#SSU_version_0.31_and_newer | 13:55 |
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| nodevel | sledges: I see, I was about to read that section after the 'zypper dup' :) I just downloaded the latest snapshot from here http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/images/0.20130411.1.NEMO.2013-04-26.1/nemo-armv7hl-n900/ and tried to upgrade. So I should choose the ssu type, right? | 13:57 |
| nodevel | * choose it first | 13:58 |
| sledges | I believe you should switch to ssu first | 13:59 |
| sledges | I think that snapshot is not yet ssu-enabled | 13:59 |
| sledges | so start with this section: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Updating#SSU | 13:59 |
| sledges | rpm -q ssu | 13:59 |
| nodevel | sledges: Yep, I read it, but somehow got the idea that I should update the current system first before switching. Thanks for help, I'll try it. | 14:00 |
| sledges | you can safely not-upgrade first, if the upgrade breaks your phone :)) | 14:01 |
| sledges | let's backtrack though: so just a simple `zypper dup` from a fresh snapshot rendered your system unbootable ? | 14:02 |
| nodevel | sledges: Yes, using the steps in https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Updating#Updating_via_command_line | 14:02 |
| sledges | I looked with suspicion at that chapter, as I think it has to be deprecated due to ssu switch demand | 14:03 |
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| sledges | we'll walk with you through and adjust wiki accordinhly ;) | 14:03 |
| nodevel | nodevel: I see :) I thought I would follow a manual since I'm more used to pacman than zypper :) | 14:04 |
| sledges | however, since nemo is work-in-progress, can be that both update methods - the non-ssu and the ssu one will need to work <- need to ask Sage | 14:04 |
| * sledges <3 pacman | 14:04 | |
| sledges | :) | 14:04 |
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| sledges | it might also be, that both update methods work, something else might break your system (a hw package upgrade e.g.) | 14:05 |
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| sledges | so ssu will allow you to switch the flavour - and we'll see | 14:05 |
| nodevel | Yep :) Alright, I'll try the ssu only method and report the results afterwards. | 14:05 |
| sledges | thanks! :) | 14:05 |
| nodevel | My thanks to you. It might take some time though. | 14:06 |
| sledges | true :) | 14:07 |
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| nodevel | sledges: It looks like in the snapshot, the devel - testing was already as default... | 14:28 |
| nodevel | So I guess I'll go the incremental path: stable -> (if it works) -> testing | 14:29 |
| w00t | don't use stable | 14:35 |
| w00t | it essentially isn't used | 14:35 |
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| nodevel | w00t: I just found out. | 14:43 |
| nodevel | w00t: thx, I'll try testing then | 14:45 |
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| sledges | yup, testing flavour to go | 15:03 |
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| Sage | nodevel: sledges that updating via command line is still perfectly valid. | 16:54 |
| sledges | Sage, *should* ;P | 16:54 |
| sledges | means something else breaks nodevel's n900 | 16:54 |
| * Sage needs help in testing stuff for n900 | 16:55 | |
| Sage | camera will break soon fully that is something for sure. | 16:55 |
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| Sage | if someone doesn't step up and try to fix the adaptation with latest mer releases | 16:55 |
| sledges | due to? (qt-components ?) | 16:55 |
| Sage | sledges: it has binary blob that is tight to certain version of gst bad free package | 16:56 |
| sledges | n9/950 also affected per say? | 16:56 |
| Sage | no, n9/n950 is ok for now | 16:56 |
| sledges | awright | 16:57 |
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| Sage | w00t: ping :) | 16:57 |
| sledges | Sage, a version alias would fix it? | 16:58 |
| sledges | can't think of anything else when a binary blob is in a way | 16:59 |
| sledges | reading backlog MSameer on gst-nokia-camera on Sat Mar 30 2013 | 17:01 |
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| sledges | just heads up if someone's reading this: https://pastee.org/5wcce | 17:08 |
| Sage | sledges: yes, that was handled already but only for n9/n950 | 17:11 |
| sledges | can I see how the handling took place? | 17:11 |
| Sage | well, there is another gst plugin that can be used on there | 17:12 |
| sledges | ok just tweeted, hope for good winds! :) | 17:17 |
| sledges | home time | 17:17 |
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| nodevel | I found one problem during the update - as the manual suggests, I attempted to install pattern 'nemo-n900' after doing 'zypper dup'. It complained about non installable pattern 'nokia-n900-support. That one complained about non-installable 'gst-nokia-camera'. And that one could not be installed due to missing 'libgstphotography.-0.10.so.0'. | 17:54 |
| nodevel | So chose to ignore it, so I'll see what's gonna happen. | 17:55 |
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| w00t | that's the broken camera support that Sage mentioned | 18:17 |
| w00t | i think | 18:17 |
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| Sage | w00t: yes | 21:40 |
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