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| sledges | good morning! | 09:37 |
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| sledges | back to work from holiday :) | 09:37 |
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| phaeron | what's a holiday | 10:39 |
| sledges | time between "going nuts" and "fresh start" periods at work | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | sleep? | 10:43 |
| sledges | what's sleep? | 10:44 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello sledges ! | 11:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | week ends ? what's a week end ? | 11:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 11:10 |
| sledges | was pondering, what type of breaks is enough for a human being: short term (sleep), mid term (weekends), long term (holidays) ? :) | 11:11 |
| sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin, hi :) | 11:11 |
| sledges | to be at their max productiveness (regardless how much you love your job :)) | 11:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: good questions, and I'm sure that there are a lot of papers about it | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | in "classes préparatoires", here in fr | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (selective exam) | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | we used to have short breaks to be efficient | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (like naps) | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | personnal experience | 11:13 |
| * sledges was thinking about powernaps 20mins ago ;) | 11:13 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: iirc powernaps are nice | 11:13 |
| * Sfiet_Konstantin promised an alpha build of Friends this week | 11:14 | |
| sledges | if you remember correctly doing them ;D | 11:14 |
| sledges | \o/ | 11:14 |
| sledges | Friends for ... ? :) | 11:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | moaar work :D | 11:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: I will try cross platform: nemo sailfish harmattan | 11:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | focusing on harmattan though | 11:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: powernaps can make you win 30-40min per day | 11:15 |
| sledges | huh? :) | 11:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | IIRC | 11:15 |
| sledges | I know those who tried powernaps, and failed, and few succeeded | 11:15 |
| sledges | it's called polyphasial sleep iirc | 11:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and there is an extreme case of powernapping, that is sleeping 10-15 min / hour reaching 4-6h of sleep per day | 11:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | polyphasial sleep ? | 11:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum interesting stuff | 11:16 |
| * Sfiet_Konstantin sleeps a lot | 11:17 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | powernaps and stuff are not for me :D | 11:17 |
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| sledges | +8 | 11:20 |
| sledges | hours | 11:20 |
| sledges | :D | 11:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ~8 :) | 11:20 |
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| w00t | rozhkov: eventfeed-qt5 is failing in devel:mw | 11:35 |
| w00t | missing a build dependency on testlib by the looks of it | 11:36 |
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| sledges | xmlich02, btw, ask away if anything too complex/unclear with the beagle repo | 11:37 |
| sledges | a friend of mine just bought BBB, hope things pick up even faster :) | 11:37 |
| rozhkov | w00t: looking into it... | 11:38 |
| xmlich02 | i wasn't successful yet, the powersgx compilation is tricky. I have to do also regular work. | 11:40 |
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| sledges | sure, are you compiling locally? | 11:42 |
| sledges | as the original repo which I have backedup from had all of its packages compiling succeeded | 11:43 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#334 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/334 | 13:32 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#335 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/335 | 13:33 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#334 Rejected promotion request | 13:38 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#335 Accepted promotion request | 13:42 |
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| xmlich02 | sledges, yes I was compiling locally. | 14:50 |
| sledges | xmlich02, which version? | 14:51 |
| sledges | or are you talking about xorg-x11-server-sgx-bin ? | 14:51 |
| xmlich02 | I was using mainly code at http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Graphics_SDK_Quick_installation_and_user_guide | 14:54 |
| sledges | xmlich02, ok. But once you'll bring that to work, you'll need to package it all up to have a proper hardware adaptation repo for others to use | 14:57 |
| sledges | in that case, you'll be re-inventing the wheel, because the whole repo has already been very nicely packaged: https://build.merproject.org/project/packages?project=home%3Asledge%3Abeagle | 14:57 |
| sledges | and it all compiles | 14:57 |
| sledges | the only step remaining is to figure out which versions of drivers you want to use | 14:58 |
| sledges | I'm basically giving you an alternative to use Mer's Build Server and have a convenient repo as an end-product | 14:59 |
| sledges | surely, if you want to understand thoroughly how things compile and work, TI wiki is the way to go for you | 14:59 |
| Sage | o/ | 15:02 |
| xmlich02 | sledges, I want to understand it. However, I would like to use already prebuilded files if it is more easy. I would like to contribute also to community.. Unfortunately, I am busy right now. | 15:03 |
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| xmlich02 | Currently, I am not sure how to deal with xorg ABI 12 requirement. | 15:08 |
| sledges | stand by for wayland? :) | 15:08 |
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| sledges | xmlich02, my approach would be to enable the existing (prebuilt as you call it) repo, get it all compiled, make a .ks pointing to that repo, bake an image and run it on the board | 15:10 |
| sledges | Xorg ABI requirement might come in a way, so an Xorg driver might need to be bumped up its version from a TI source | 15:10 |
| sledges | so analysing build log errors, finding and repackaging newer source tarballs would teach you lots already | 15:12 |
| sledges | Sage, ahoj :) | 15:12 |
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| Sage | sledges: hi. have been quite busy with stuff. Trying currently to fix nemo devel to promote stuff forwards and to make snapshot | 15:15 |
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| sledges | I saw ssu qt going on qt5 :) | 15:16 |
| * sledges whistles a tune | 15:16 | |
| Sage | sledges: :) | 15:19 |
| sledges | is this what you don't like Sage https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=lipstick-colorful-home-qt5&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Aux ? | 15:19 |
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| kaltsi | Sage: there's no plymouth-lite package in nemo:stable:mw, but it is in :devel and :testing.. I could use it in the emulator | 15:27 |
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| Sage | kaltsi: nemo:stable:* is not use atm. | 15:30 |
| kaltsi | oh | 15:30 |
| Sage | kaltsi: testing and devel only | 15:31 |
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| Sage | \o/ nemo ui up from devel... :) | 15:52 |
| Sage | hmmp. some strange black box is in top left corner | 15:52 |
| Stskeeps | somebody mentioned that on pandaboard too | 15:52 |
| Sage | or top right in portrait | 15:53 |
| Sage | did we have xwininfo? :) | 15:53 |
| Sage | apparently not packaged | 15:54 |
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| sledges | i think they mentioned in on n7 instead | 16:15 |
| sledges | great news Sage , is it mainly qt5 ? ;) | 16:16 |
| Sage | not yet at least | 16:19 |
| sledges | :) so what was the hurdle? | 16:19 |
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| Sage | well, new mer release broke stuff a bit | 16:23 |
| sledges | a ok | 16:23 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello w00t and special ! | 16:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I have heard that you are hacking on Nemo homescreen on Wayland, do you have any repo ? | 16:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I would love to take a look :) | 16:30 |
| sledges | Nemo homescreen is lipstick (Qt), do you actually mean that they are rewriting mcompositor for wayland? 8)~ | 16:31 |
| special | Sfiet_Konstantin: https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/tree/qt5 | 16:31 |
| special | sledges: lipstick with Qt5 is a wayland compositor | 16:32 |
| sledges | special, ... which will need to take care of gestures and animations ? | 16:32 |
| special | mcompositor's behavior can be implemented in QML | 16:32 |
| special | which that branch does, I implemented swipe in it on saturday | 16:32 |
| Sage | w00t: http://pastie.org/8031006 Vesuri | 16:32 |
| Sage | notifications broke on nemo home? | 16:33 |
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| sledges | special, \o/ :) | 16:33 |
| special | Sfiet_Konstantin: it's packaged now too, lipstick-colorful-home-qt5 | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | special: got a screenshot of it from your n7 by chance, or n9? | 16:34 |
| sledges | special, hopefully the dreaded NEMO#349 will go away as well ? | 16:34 |
| special | Stskeeps: well, it looks exactly the same ;) | 16:34 |
| special | but I could make a video of the n7 this evening | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 16:35 |
| sledges | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349 | 16:35 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 349 in Home "Panning between launcher and switcher is hard." [Normal,New] | 16:35 |
| * sledges : "hmmm why did I ever think that PathView was Xorg related..." | 16:36 | |
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| special | sledges: I think that is fixed now | 16:36 |
| special | w00t changed it semi-recently | 16:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's awesome | 16:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks w00t special | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: you should try to get that going on your iconia | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: ^ and your exo too | 16:37 |
| sledges | nice, 'cause the fix is quite obvious: if there's any vertical scrolling starting, inhibit any horiz scrolling immediately ;) (easier said than done ofc) | 16:37 |
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| special | Sfiet_Konstantin: let me know if you have any problems | 16:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | special: no problem | 16:37 |
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| w00t | Sage: what's broken? | 16:41 |
| w00t | oh, the window size... | 16:41 |
| w00t | so it only takes up part of the screen? | 16:42 |
| w00t | Sfiet_Konstantin: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N9-N950/Wayland may be of some interest (here be dragons and all that) | 16:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | w00t: cool, but iconia is x86 :) | 16:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | don't have a N950 or N9 to break here :( | 16:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | w00t: but looks awesome :) | 16:47 |
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| * w00t has to go for a bit | 16:49 | |
| w00t | hard drive swap time | 16:49 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | special: in which repo is colorful-home-qt5 ? | 16:52 |
| Sage | w00t: well the nemo ui shows constantly a black window on the screen on top of lockscreen and home | 16:57 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | special: http://paste.kde.org/768506/ | 17:29 |
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| special | Sfiet_Konstantin: whoa, no idea what that is. | 18:08 |
| Stskeepz | Sfiet_Konstantin: looks like you may have to zypper dup? | 18:09 |
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| vgrade | Stskeepz: lipstick-home-qt5 up on Exo compositing snowshow browser | 18:47 |
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| vgrade | nice work w00t special | 18:47 |
| Stskeepz | vgrade: photo! | 18:47 |
| Stskeepz | :P | 18:47 |
| w00t | vgrade: \o/ | 18:47 |
| special | awesome | 18:48 |
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| w00t | photo is boring | 18:48 |
| w00t | take a video | 18:48 |
| vgrade | sec | 18:48 |
| w00t | :D | 18:48 |
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| vgrade | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX-CCgI_EbY | 18:56 |
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| w00t | vgrade: ++ | 18:59 |
| w00t | vgrade: gonna try it on the pi too? | 18:59 |
| vgrade | fullscreen browser is flipped but composited is right way round | 19:00 |
| w00t | inverted_y again? | 19:00 |
| vgrade | could be | 19:00 |
| vgrade | also touch not getting to browser in fullscreen, maybe missing a -plugin EvTouch somewhere | 19:01 |
| vgrade | awsome work | 19:02 |
| vgrade | a new world opens up for nemo | 19:02 |
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| Morpog_ | what tablet was that? | 19:05 |
| Stskeepz | exopc | 19:05 |
| vgrade | Exopc | 19:05 |
| vgrade | SKonstantin_N9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX-CCgI_EbY | 19:05 |
| Morpog_ | ah ok | 19:05 |
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| SKonstantin_N9 | vgrade, cheater | 19:07 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | why I have an error :( | 19:07 |
| vgrade | :) | 19:08 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | vgrade, are you using mer Qt ? | 19:09 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | or yours ? | 19:09 |
| vgrade | did you get new lipstick-qt5 | 19:09 |
| vgrade | as well as lipstick-col-home-qt5 | 19:09 |
| vgrade | mer | 19:10 |
| w00t | Sfiet_Konstantin: having problems? | 19:10 |
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| SKonstantin_N9 | vgrade, yes | 19:11 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | but I use my Qt5 | 19:11 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | and it is not bc with lipstick it seems | 19:11 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | cannot find a symbol related to v8 | 19:11 |
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| w00t | "your"? | 19:12 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | w00t, with kms plugin | 19:13 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | not the one shipped in mer but the one I compiled | 19:13 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | except if there is now kms plugin in mer | 19:13 |
| vgrade | sorry SKonstantin_N9 I have your repo | 19:14 |
| vgrade | http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/sfietkonstantin:/radeon-wayland/latest_i586/ | 19:14 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | vgrade, ah | 19:14 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | i'm using next | 19:14 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | hum | 19:14 |
| SKonstantin_N9 | need investigation | 19:14 |
| wmarone_ | has anyone else seen this when building an image: Error <creator>: Failed to find package 'nemo-complete' : No package(s) available to install | 19:18 |
| vgrade | is nemo-complete a package or package group | 19:20 |
| vgrade | w00t: QT_COMPOSITOR_NEGATE_INVERTED_Y=1 fixes flip | 19:22 |
| wmarone_ | it's a group | 19:23 |
| wmarone_ | I get the error when trying to build an image using the published nemo .ks files | 19:23 |
| vgrade | wmarone, things have been moving around recently | 19:24 |
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| w00t | vgrade: :) | 20:00 |
| vgrade | adding -plugin EvdevTouch to snowshow desktop also allows link clicking | 20:01 |
| Stskeepz | vgrade: silly question, what is free -m when you have lipstick up? | 20:05 |
| vgrade | sec | 20:05 |
| Stskeepz | and i presume this is the i915 exo wayland, not llvmpipe | 20:05 |
| vgrade | exo -platform kms | 20:06 |
| Stskeepz | cool | 20:06 |
| vgrade | http://pastie.org/8031803 | 20:09 |
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| vgrade | lipstick -platform kms -plugin EvdevTouch -plugin EvdevKeyboard | 20:10 |
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| Stskeepz | ok, bit higher than expected - ps aux? | 20:11 |
| vgrade | http://pastie.org/8031820 | 20:14 |
| Stskeepz | ok | 20:15 |
| vgrade | oh and long tap to close works as well | 20:16 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello here | 20:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | vgrade or Stskeepz, do you know why http://paste.kde.org/768998/ ? | 20:56 |
| vgrade | Sfiet_Konstantin: not really, a mismatch of libs? | 20:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | vgrade: it is related to v8 | 20:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | what is the v8 version you are using ? | 20:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qt5-qtv8 ? | 20:58 |
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| vgrade | sec | 20:58 |
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| vgrade | qt5-qtv8-5.0.2-1.1.6.i586 | 20:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ah yeah, you are on latest | 21:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm on next, damn | 21:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe i should go back on latest | 21:00 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | vgrade: it works :):):) | 21:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | where did you got so much apps | 21:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I want some ! | 21:14 |
| vgrade | \o/ | 21:15 |
| vgrade | Slatekit, snowshoe in git | 21:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | vgrade: when I try to launch something with qmlscene, it crash | 21:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | strange | 21:20 |
| w00t | what kind of crash? | 21:28 |
| w00t | and why do you have version mismatches? everything should be compiled against what you're using unless you're building stuff by hand locally on a differently configured SDK | 21:29 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | w00t: http://paste.kde.org/769436/ | 21:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will check | 21:30 |
| w00t | what hardware is this? | 21:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | acer Iconia tab W500 | 21:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | AMD fusion | 21:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | AMD GPU | 21:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | using Mesa adaptation (free radeon driver) | 21:30 |
| w00t | ok, I don't know much about that | 21:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | what could cause that ? | 21:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it works if i use kms | 21:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum | 21:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sec | 21:31 |
| w00t | what's EGL_PLATFORM set to in your environment | 21:32 |
| vgrade | Sfiet_Konstantin: can you still run minimer -platform wayland on qml-compositor | 21:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | w00t: nothing | 21:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum, I installed qt5-qtwayland-wayland_egl | 21:33 |
| vgrade | slatekit is running nice | 21:33 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | damn, I "lost" the wayland platform plugin Oo | 21:36 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | w00t, vgrade simply because I was mixing Qt versions (the Qt devel repo is tempting) | 21:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and that I was using nogl instead of wayland_egl | 21:39 |
| w00t | ah.. yeah, don't do that yet ;) | 21:39 |
| w00t | nemo'll move on top of it sometime soon™ | 21:39 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | works | 21:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | great !!!! | 21:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | vgrade: where did you got Qt5 Webkit ? | 21:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | vgrade: do yo have a package for slatekit ? | 21:43 |
| vgrade | no package from slatekit just git clone, qmlscene Shell.qml | 21:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | vgrade: where can you get Qt5 webkit then ? | 21:43 |
| vgrade | sec | 21:44 |
| vgrade | http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/cxl000:/branches:/mer:/mds2:/Core:/i486:/master/latest_i486/home:cxl000:branches:mer:mds2:Core:i486:master.repo | 21:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | vgrade: thanks | 21:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that wayland based colorful home looks awesome | 21:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and the minimize effect is way better now | 21:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | really way way better | 21:47 |
| special | Sfiet_Konstantin: just the beginning :) | 21:48 |
| special | there's a *lot* we can do with lipstick as the compositor now | 21:48 |
| vgrade | special: awsome work, don't know how may hours I've spent over the last couple of years trying to get mcompositor to run on various bits of hardware. | 21:49 |
| cxl000 | vgrade, Sfiet_Konstantin I have also packaged slatekitshell | 21:49 |
| vgrade | and usually failing | 21:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | cxl000: ok that's nice :) | 21:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm also glad that mcompositor is not here anymore | 21:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it was a bit cryptic to me | 21:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | now that we live in a QML world, I guess that I have to work on my tablet UI again | 21:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 21:50 |
| w00t | Sfiet_Konstantin: we're actually testing it mostly on n7 so far | 21:53 |
| w00t | and it feels pretty good on there | 21:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | w00t: tablet UI ? | 21:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or colorful home ? | 21:54 |
| special | colorful | 21:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 21:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | would love to see a tablet UI for Sailfish though | 21:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so N7 adaptation is OK now ? | 21:55 |
| special | well, the normal N7 adaptation is native linux | 21:55 |
| special | it works decently, although no orientation and a tearing problem | 21:55 |
| special | on X | 21:55 |
| w00t | (which is conspicuously absent on wayland, hooray) | 21:56 |
| special | I've been getting libhybris and wayland going on N7, using the android drivers | 21:56 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | special: ha | 21:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so libhybris | 21:57 |
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| special | yup. That should solve a lot of other problems too, like sensors. | 21:58 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | so libhybris is more than just graphics ? | 21:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | does it solve the radio problem too ? | 21:59 |
| special | libhybris is basically a dlopen wrapper, that allows normal applications to link and use android libraries | 21:59 |
| special | with a bit of adaptation in the middle where needed | 22:00 |
| special | so it opens up the entire android hardware abstraction layer | 22:00 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum | 22:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | interesting | 22:02 |
| special | which means that once you have a hybris adaptation, it can be ported easily to pretty much any hardware android runs on | 22:04 |
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| cxl000 | woot I have a modified fullscreen fingerterm for n7 https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=fingerterm&project=home%3Acxl000%3Abranches%3Anemo%3Adevel%3Aapps | 22:05 |
| cxl000 | w00t ^^ | 22:05 |
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| w00t | cxl000: submit the changes as a pull request on git | 22:06 |
| cxl000 | are there instructions on how to do that? | 22:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | cxl000: could be nicer for all the different displays all around :) | 22:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | iconia have also a different screen size | 22:07 |
| w00t | cxl000: https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests and https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Development#Testing_rpm_package_build_before_committing | 22:09 |
| w00t | Sfiet_Konstantin is probably also helpful :) | 22:09 |
| cxl000 | I am using/abusing settings to pass in the size through. not sure if that is the best way. | 22:11 |
| w00t | i'll have to see it to be sure, but, take a look at QDesktopWidget::size | 22:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | cxl000: or use rootContext()->setContextProperty ? | 22:14 |
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| vgrade | nn | 23:17 |
| w00t | nighty night | 23:17 |
| vgrade | night w00t | 23:19 |
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