sledges | sudo rm -rf /media/AltOS/* | 00:00 |
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sledges | not the one above :) | 00:00 |
sledges | and then | 00:00 |
sledges | sudo tar --numeric-owner -xf nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-*.tar.bz2 -C /media/Alt_OS/ | 00:00 |
sledges | sync | 00:00 |
sledges | umount | 00:00 |
sledges | done | 00:00 |
sledges | you got it | 00:00 |
HtheB | yea | 00:01 |
HtheB | thanks a lot! :) | 00:01 |
HtheB | then ill just zypper ref | 00:01 |
HtheB | what next after that (very quick before sleeping for real) | 00:01 |
sledges | then | 00:01 |
sledges | commands: | 00:02 |
sledges | screen | 00:02 |
sledges | zypper up | 00:02 |
sledges | and go to sleep :) | 00:02 |
HtheB | :D thnx | 00:02 |
HtheB | nite nite ! | 00:02 |
HtheB | i'll give you the report tomorrow | 00:02 |
sledges | screen ensures if something gets killed, update process continues | 00:02 |
sledges | okedoke! | 00:02 |
sledges | nites | 00:02 |
HtheB | laters! | 00:02 |
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Ken-Young | Is anyone working on a port of Scipy/Numpy for nemo and mer? | 00:38 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7521 Accepted promotion request | 02:41 |
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iekku | morning | 04:13 |
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* rZr http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88236# #Nokia #Ovi #Store will lose billing support on #N9 in #china , #MeeGo #HarmattanDev !n950club | 05:35 | |
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Sage | morning | 07:59 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7526 Accepted promotion request | 08:58 |
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phaeron | Sage: was stuck | 09:02 |
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Sage | :/ | 09:21 |
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Stskeeps | morn qwazix | 09:33 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: http://sage.kapsi.fi/Nemo-tmp/0.20121205.0.3.NEMO.2012-12-13.1/images/ and who ever wants to test mer -next with nemo | 10:12 |
sledges | gud morning! | 10:17 |
Sage | Stskeeps, lbt: if nemo is fine then we have a go for mer next today? | 10:18 |
sledges | I can test | 10:18 |
sledges | what's different in Mer next ? | 10:18 |
sledges | or to look out for | 10:18 |
Sage | well, if everything works fine on images and no visiable regressions | 10:19 |
* Sage plugs his n950 to laptop | 10:19 | |
* sledges plugs his N9 to laptop | 10:20 | |
* Sage puts msd card to sd card reader for n900 | 10:20 | |
Stskeeps | Sage: yes | 10:20 |
* sledges first boots mer non-next Nemo to check how yesterday's 246 updates look like since last update 1st November | 10:21 | |
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Sage | ok, i586-vm seems to work fine | 10:29 |
Sage | noting couple of things though. that are not because of mer-core | 10:30 |
Sage | a) lock icon doesn't lock device. b) can't seem to be start settings | 10:30 |
Sage | be able to | 10:30 |
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VDVsx | I need some help in order to integrate new version nemo-qml-plugins, never did it, is there some docs ? | 10:37 |
sledges | VDVsx, where are you taking the new version from? | 10:37 |
VDVsx | github: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugins | 10:38 |
sledges | HEY LATEST NEMO ACCEPTS MY SIM CARD, FINALLY! 8-D | 10:39 |
sledges | and looks waay faster (is the phantom device slowness fix in?) | 10:40 |
sledges | VDVsx, do you have an account on OBS ? | 10:41 |
sledges | Community OBS (build.pub.meego.com) | 10:41 |
VDVsx | sledges, yes | 10:42 |
sledges | so this is the list of main and forked projects: https://build.pub.meego.com/search/search?search_text=nemo-qml-plugins&commit=Search&project=1&package=1&name=1&attribute=&advanced=on&issue_tracker=bnc+%28Novell+Bugzilla%29&issue_name= | 10:42 |
Sage | sledges: it is in yes | 10:42 |
Sage | n950, n900 and i586-vm seems all ok from mer-core point of view to me (cc: stskeeps) | 10:43 |
sledges | VDVsx, you can check all of them to see if anyone has the version new enough you want | 10:43 |
sledges | if not, branch your own version (main one CE:MW:Shared > nemo-qml-plugins) and replace the tarball with your source of interest | 10:45 |
sledges | if you contact lbt , he could explain you how to do it without tarballs - when OBS is pulling straight from git | 10:45 |
VDVsx | sledges, I think we're not talking about the same, I want to submit the git code(new version) to the nemo image | 10:45 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7531 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7531 | 10:46 |
VDVsx | and I don't know how it works for nemo, if some tagging is needed and then automaticly picked, if changelogs are needed etc | 10:46 |
sledges | ok then, first and foremost - branch CE:MW:Shared > nemo-qml-plugins | 10:47 |
sledges | for this project (as for many others), there are two parallel versions: official repo on github, and OBS build | 10:49 |
sledges | it will appear in Nemo (to any user who does zypper up) only when a "change request" is created on OBS | 10:50 |
sledges | and it's reviewed and approved (also called "Submit Request") | 10:50 |
sledges | as you can see her by the-boss ... SR#xxxx | 10:50 |
sledges | in the cycle you should first create a pull request to github | 10:51 |
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sledges | get that approved and incorporated into tree (done already? good!) | 10:51 |
VDVsx | yes, thats done | 10:51 |
sledges | and then patch the OBS version, which you first branch | 10:51 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7531 Rejected promotion request | 10:52 |
sledges | Sage, can ^ be done within recompressing tar.gz with the patch? | 10:52 |
sledges | or should VDVsx create .patch files around ? (in OBS) | 10:52 |
Sage | VDVsx: if you want to submit patch to nemo-qml-plugins you can do that by submitting it to the git tree | 10:54 |
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Sage | VDVsx: do pull request to https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugins | 10:54 |
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sledges | he's done that already | 10:54 |
sledges | and they got approved | 10:55 |
VDVsx | Sage, is already in, I want to release new version | 10:55 |
Sage | ah | 10:55 |
sledges | now he wants it to appear in nemo bin repos | 10:55 |
Sage | ok, well tag the head of that git tree. Create tarball from the tag. Branch from CE:MW:Shared in obs and change tarball and packaging there. | 10:56 |
VDVsx | Sage, ok, thx | 10:57 |
sledges | my question: should he rename tarball the same way it is now, or OBS will pick it up and map fine ? | 10:58 |
* sledges just received a call, Nemo is looking like a daily phone sooner than I thought! :D | 10:58 | |
phaeron | cool | 11:01 |
sledges | I wonder how you fixed SIM card to work (UK O2 and Vodafone SIM cards never worked a month ago, only Vodafone Czech Rep (roaming) did) | 11:03 |
phaeron | not specific fix , but I guess the modem is working a bit more reliably now | 11:08 |
phaeron | at least I don't know of any specific fixes | 11:08 |
sledges | out of curiosity - has this been upstreamed? | 11:08 |
sledges | ah ok | 11:08 |
sledges | I believe a big thanks to Jolla for it | 11:08 |
sledges | hence well have a very stable middleware and HA (and Mer core) | 11:09 |
Sage | yup, no specific fixes in modem area or at least can't think any either | 11:11 |
sledges | 8| | 11:11 |
sledges | ofono that would be I believe | 11:11 |
sledges | maybe operator has made its broadcast more friendly here?.. | 11:12 |
sledges | I'll try another SIM card | 11:12 |
sledges | (or maybe N9's quirks) | 11:12 |
sledges | HEYY NEMO boot LOGO colours are fixed with mer-next branch ;) | 11:13 |
sledges | ouch, they get distorted after a bit though | 11:14 |
Sage | sledges: well that is a problematic thing acctually | 11:14 |
Sage | it is fixed on images build with .ks files but after updates it gets messy again as the hack disappears | 11:14 |
Sage | would need better fix there | 11:15 |
sledges | apparently the hack does not hold through the whole boot process either | 11:15 |
sledges | (this is the first time i'm booting mernext, so takes longer) | 11:15 |
sledges | will try to reboot without updating first | 11:15 |
sledges | hmmmmmmmm | 11:16 |
sledges | still yellow screen and dimming down and up | 11:16 |
sledges | looks like old n9 problems resurfaced | 11:16 |
sledges | should i update via ssh? | 11:16 |
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sledges | those are systemd ti-sgx module loading problems | 11:17 |
sledges | at least the same behaviour | 11:17 |
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sledges | hmmmm mer-next looks sad for N9, cannot even telnet/ssh | 11:18 |
sledges | even though usb cable is cdc_ether OK, maybe subnet changed? (not 192.168.2.15 anymore?) | 11:20 |
phaeron | no it's the same nothing changed | 11:21 |
phaeron | modules should actually load fine .. | 11:21 |
phdeswer | Anything about usb in the computers dmesg? Does it even see the N9? | 11:23 |
Sage | at times the usb isn't recognized properly when usb is connected too early in boot | 11:25 |
phdeswer | Sage, but otherwise it works? | 11:26 |
Sage | phdeswer: yes, if you reconnect usb it starts working | 11:27 |
* phdeswer remembers ubuntu machines not being able to recognize the N9 and N900 usb sometimes | 11:27 | |
phdeswer | Check dmesg on the host (pc) to check if there are cannot set config or something like that errors for usb | 11:27 |
sledges | dmesg looked sane | 11:30 |
sledges | as I could do ifconfig usb0 | 11:31 |
sledges | tryin again after reboot | 11:31 |
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sledges | i'm doing single boot brw | 11:33 |
sledges | btw | 11:33 |
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alci | Hi. I am testing nemo on a N9, and while charging, the battery indicator does not "move" unless I change the view (from menu to running apps). Is this expected ? | 11:37 |
phako | well at least it changes now ;) | 11:37 |
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alci | :-) In fact it works fine if any app is running. But not with only the "desktop" (don't know the terminology in use. anyone ?) | 11:39 |
alci | To be more precise, it works if any app is active. A "minified" app does not trigger the indicator update. | 11:41 |
sledges | Sage, phdeswer, phaeron: mer-next Nemo works on N9, after reboot all fine, wifi connected, received an unanswered phone call; but asked for pin (two windows!) I have no pin on SIM, dialog did not re-appear though | 11:41 |
sledges | desktop = home screen | 11:42 |
alci | Cool. What name for the "opened apps" view ? | 11:42 |
sledges | opened apps? :D | 11:43 |
w00t | alci: it not working on the homescreen is a known bug | 11:43 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7532 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7532 | 11:43 |
alci | w00t: ok. | 11:43 |
* w00t thinks the right thing to do would be to remove the custom statusbar code, and use Window in the homescreen, to draw it | 11:43 | |
alci | sledges: the view of the homescreen showing the "minified" apps, when using the balloons icon. | 11:44 |
sledges | Sage, one thing noticed UI: settings app works fine (hence connected to wifi) as opposed to yours. but when flicking (only by a fraction!) homescreen horizontally, it nudges to the side and stays there, does not swipe, though stays out-centered then | 11:44 |
sledges | alci, understood, I was suggestinga name for it :) | 11:44 |
sledges | the way you said ;) | 11:45 |
alci | :-) | 11:45 |
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sledges | cc Stskeeps ^ | 11:46 |
phaeron | sledges: could be some ofono / modem interaction weirdness | 11:47 |
sledges | yes, but only on mer-next | 11:47 |
phaeron | my sim has pin, I always get one window | 11:47 |
sledges | (newer versions?) | 11:47 |
sledges | thats normal then :) | 11:48 |
sledges | file a mer-next bug? ;) | 11:48 |
phaeron | sledges: at least so we know if we hit it soon | 11:48 |
phaeron | (will be testing mer next soon) | 11:48 |
sledges | ok | 11:48 |
sledges | so you want a bug report (?) | 11:49 |
VDVsx | Sage, maybe this could be updated with my "usecase"(submit new package version from git), even if not very common: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/GettingStartedInFixingBugs , I can do it if no objections | 11:49 |
phaeron | sledges: if you can get it reproduced over two reboots , then yes please | 11:50 |
sledges | ok | 11:51 |
VDVsx | well, actually is more or less detailed in the link to veskuh 's blog | 11:51 |
w00t | Sage: phaeron: is there a date on the OBS migration, yet? | 11:51 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7533 Rejected promotion request | 11:52 |
phaeron | w00t: it can happen now for all I know | 11:52 |
phaeron | ssu is ready and processes on new obs are in place | 11:52 |
phaeron | sage tested them and they work | 11:52 |
phaeron | so ... | 11:52 |
veskuh | VDVsx, yeah, would be cool if you'd update that wiki page, since I think now patches are minority and normally we do fixes to git and new releases | 11:57 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7532 Accepted promotion request | 12:00 |
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sledges | that would be great VDVsx | 12:17 |
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sledges | Sage, Mer-next branch do not have Nemo shutting down logo, just a red square appears | 12:21 |
sledges | mer-next branch: weird, on 3rd boot many apps lost their icons on homescreen (browser, terminal, meego-pin, camera, packages...) | 12:25 |
phaeron | anything in journalctl about it ? | 12:29 |
sledges | about which phaeron ? :) | 12:29 |
phaeron | missing icons / images | 12:29 |
phaeron | shutting down logo might be a know issue , as the theme doesn't provide one | 12:30 |
sledges | will check | 12:30 |
sledges | there is one on normal mer-core branch | 12:30 |
sledges | (shutting down logo that is) | 12:31 |
sledges | amazing how fast the boot time is now! sub 25 seconds if not less! | 12:32 |
sledges | thanks to phantom slowness fix (enabling L2 cache) | 12:32 |
sledges | phaeron, false alarm. I switched to "developer theme" | 12:32 |
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phaeron | yeah the default theme is deficient | 12:34 |
phaeron | nemo-default I mean | 12:34 |
sledges | i mean: | 12:34 |
sledges | on main mer-core branch updated nemo has always had shutdown logo | 12:34 |
sledges | today switched to mer-next to test: shutdown logo gone | 12:34 |
sledges | then on same branch switched from darko to development theme | 12:35 |
sledges | and many apps lost their icons | 12:35 |
phaeron | it might just be other updates you pulled in when you switched to -next | 12:35 |
phaeron | theme stuff is not in mer core | 12:35 |
sledges | ok, in mer core shutdown logo is hardcoded independently from theme? | 12:36 |
sledges | i did not do zypper ref up on mer-next | 12:36 |
sledges | now as i am switching back to darko it is taking forever (theme switching still buggy?) | 12:37 |
sledges | progress bar always was blue with white stripes. now its black with dark green stripes | 12:38 |
sledges | and doesn't want to end | 12:38 |
sledges | prolly i'm testing too much :)) | 12:38 |
phaeron | yeah I didn't test theme switching lately to be honest | 12:40 |
sledges | journalctl says rejected send message from lipstick to mce | 12:41 |
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sledges | ohmd says active_ui_change_request appwin .. | 12:42 |
sledges | and lastly mce_determine_io_monitor_seekable: is not seekable, while glib thinks it is seekable | 12:42 |
phaeron | unrelated I think .. first one is interesting though :) | 12:43 |
sledges | oh man, Nemo shutdown logo just appeared | 12:43 |
sledges | (Im rebooting as theme switching would just not work, may will pick up after reboot?) | 12:43 |
sledges | i have to say, nemo is now nearly as fast as harmattan (still not seamless but getting there) | 12:44 |
sledges | running finger through maliit feels that it feeds back 95% cases! | 12:45 |
sledges | ok, theme switched after reboot, icons back | 12:45 |
* sledges switches back to main mer-core nemo to report proper bugs :) | 12:47 | |
sledges | (nemo shutdown logo now worked again 8{ ) | 12:47 |
phaeron | sledges: provided by theme afair :) | 12:50 |
sledges | :)) yup, just wondering why it was red square all the way from the beginning and until i started fiddling switching themes | 12:51 |
sledges | kind-of popped the cherry :) | 12:51 |
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sledges | im not making a good tester | 13:00 |
sledges | phaeron, SIM PIN request was false alarm, as I clicked on it trying to dismiss | 13:01 |
sledges | xterm | 13:01 |
sledges | is good to be a bad tester - all the bug turn out to be not bugs :)) | 13:01 |
phaeron | well still things need polishing so these things don't happen :) | 13:03 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7534 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7534 | 13:03 |
Venemo_N9 | :) | 13:04 |
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sledges | themes yes, pin request - purely my fault | 13:10 |
sledges | but | 13:10 |
sledges | I cannot swipe to minimise app when phone is put on the table | 13:10 |
sledges | only when held up | 13:10 |
sledges | i can reproduce it | 13:11 |
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sledges | since it surely relies on accelerometers | 13:11 |
sledges | but unfortunately, it relies on them too much | 13:11 |
sledges | so no way to minimise an app when filming a nemo demo | 13:12 |
sledges | unless I tilt the table | 13:12 |
sledges | or hold it in hand | 13:12 |
sledges | ;) | 13:12 |
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phaeron | sledges: afair we established it is a conduction circuit kind of thing | 13:17 |
phaeron | if you touch the phone with the other hand or put it on something metal touch works fine | 13:18 |
phaeron | it is kind of weird | 13:18 |
sledges | but | 13:18 |
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sledges | if you put it on the table | 13:18 |
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sledges | it stays portrait, if it was portrait before putting it | 13:18 |
sledges | same for landscape | 13:18 |
sledges | means it knows it's parallel to the groun | 13:19 |
sledges | d | 13:19 |
sledges | and stops rotating around (ofc) | 13:19 |
sledges | with that state | 13:19 |
sledges | just have swiping ignore the orientation | 13:19 |
sledges | and set it as last-known-stable-orientation | 13:20 |
Venemo_N9 | swiping is not orientation dependent afaik | 13:20 |
sledges | it is portrait/landscape dependent | 13:20 |
sledges | as it has to know where the top or bottom is | 13:20 |
sledges | to swipe successfully | 13:20 |
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Venemo_N9 | sledges, since when? | 13:21 |
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sledges | you cannot swipe (minimise app) from a side | 13:21 |
sledges | only top-bottom | 13:21 |
sledges | so it is tied to the UI orientation | 13:22 |
sledges | UI in turn is tied to accelerometers | 13:22 |
sledges | so why swiping fails when the phone is on the table? | 13:22 |
sledges | it means swiping also read accelerometers, and not the ui orientation | 13:22 |
sledges | which is not ok | 13:22 |
Venemo_N9 | since when is it like this!? | 13:22 |
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sledges | Venemo_N9, how is it yours then? | 13:23 |
sledges | swiping should be tied to ui, and ignore accelerometers | 13:23 |
Venemo_N9 | last time I checked it worked from any edge | 13:23 |
sledges | so you can still minimise an app when phone is on the table | 13:23 |
sledges | any edge? never worked for me | 13:23 |
Venemo_N9 | hm. | 13:23 |
sledges | either from top, or (most of the times) from the bottom | 13:23 |
sledges | but it's irrelevant | 13:24 |
sledges | swipe stops working when phone is parellel to the ground | 13:24 |
sledges | is swipe detection handled by hardware? | 13:25 |
Aard | sledges: swiping fails when the phone is on the table because it's a capacitive touchscreen :p | 13:25 |
sledges | so it does not interact with accelerometers? | 13:25 |
Aard | I don't think it does | 13:25 |
sledges | @'_[*#§&@#@$ :)) | 13:25 |
sledges | why does it work on harmattan then? ? | 13:25 |
Aard | touch the phone with a second hand and it should work | 13:25 |
sledges | ohmy | 13:26 |
sledges | so harmattan initialises touchscreen with other seettings? | 13:27 |
sledges | and smoothes out to handle swipes | 13:27 |
sledges | as not enough capacitiveness causes noise, of course | 13:27 |
sledges | crazy | 13:27 |
sledges | who would have thought | 13:27 |
Aard | I have no idea, though I've occasionally seen weird behaviour of harmattan n9 on table as well | 13:28 |
sledges | Venemo_N9, side swiping works :)) but I have hard time swiping even from the bottom compared to harmattan | 13:28 |
sledges | side are even less 'hooky' :) | 13:28 |
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Aard | but it's another case where it's useful to know a bit of physics, as normal user, when you're cursing why it's not working ;) | 13:29 |
sledges | crazy | 13:29 |
sledges | i know that bit of physics | 13:30 |
sledges | but all phones work when put on table | 13:30 |
sledges | or attached in car holders | 13:30 |
sledges | i chuck my n9 into dials dashboard behind steering wheel | 13:30 |
sledges | and operate with one finder - everything works | 13:30 |
sledges | swipe in harmattan ok | 13:30 |
* sledges will try to operate nemo whilst in car then to cross check ;) | 13:31 | |
sledges | tonight | 13:31 |
Venemo_N9 | hm. | 13:33 |
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sledges | is it a known bug: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng0VrxcIjvI ? | 13:50 |
w00t | I've got some fixes to PathView that I'll be putting into the next mer release | 13:52 |
w00t | that may or may not help | 13:52 |
w00t | blam_: ^^ perhaps you've seen that before? | 13:52 |
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sledges | give me a go ahead to bugreport it | 13:56 |
w00t | of course, if it isn't reported, go ahead and report - never need to ask permission ;) | 14:01 |
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sledges | well, you poked blam_ :) so was a bit hesitant there :) | 14:02 |
sledges | ok! reporting in :)) | 14:02 |
w00t | blam_ did a lot of work on pathview bugfix backporting, i'm just wondering if it's possibly part of that lot :) | 14:04 |
sledges | oh ok | 14:05 |
sledges | no category lipstick, probing UX / Home | 14:05 |
sledges | and bug for that is there :)) NEMO#435 | 14:06 |
w00t | UX / home | 14:06 |
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sledges | ta | 14:08 |
faenil | o/ | 14:08 |
sledges | \o | 14:08 |
faenil | good afternoon :) | 14:08 |
sledges | faenil, I'm trying out latest Nemo - so cool! SIM card works, can make/receive calls! | 14:09 |
faenil | sledges, latest as in? | 14:10 |
sledges | yesterday | 14:10 |
sledges | did not update since 1st November, when SIM cards still did not work | 14:11 |
w00t | they kind of did, if you pushed the right buttons | 14:11 |
w00t | but special fixed that properly | 14:11 |
sledges | NICE! :) Tried many UK sim cards then, no luck; only foreign one worked :) Now my main UK SIm works! | 14:11 |
sledges | well done special ! | 14:11 |
sledges | wonder what that was (probably asking ofono nicely and automatically :)) | 14:12 |
w00t | some fixes to telepathy-ring | 14:12 |
sledges | wonder if they were upstreamed for good | 14:12 |
w00t | we are the upstream | 14:12 |
w00t | ;) | 14:12 |
sledges | ;D so what is GTA04 using? | 14:13 |
w00t | (https://github.com/nemomobile/telepathy-ring/commits/master) | 14:13 |
w00t | no idea | 14:13 |
sledges | probably they do not go telepathy way, and ofono works for them from other framework talking to it.. | 14:13 |
sledges | commented on an umbrella bug: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349 | 14:17 |
Merbot | Nemo bug 349 in Home "Panning between launcher and switcher is hard." [Normal,New] | 14:17 |
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faenil | sledges, yeah I noticed that like 2 weeks ago | 14:18 |
faenil | forgot to write about it | 14:18 |
* sledges slaps faenil around with a large trout :)) | 14:18 | |
faenil | :) | 14:19 |
sledges | and old bug, was wondering should I've created a new one instead.. well hope we poked all of those in Cc :) (was blam_ there though, w00t ? ) | 14:19 |
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faenil | also, I have not made a qmlgallery release in months xD | 14:20 |
faenil | like the last 3-4 features I added aren't packaged yet | 14:20 |
sledges | what are them features? | 14:21 |
faenil | very small things | 14:21 |
faenil | but improving experience | 14:21 |
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sledges | every little helps ;) | 14:21 |
sledges | a new fellow yesterday was putting Nemo on their N950. Were so happy and exctatic seeing that if you run dual-booting moslo with usb cable in - it mounts the partition before going ahead - you see little details make big difference ;) | 14:22 |
faenil | :) | 14:22 |
aggelos_ | hello | 14:23 |
sledges | (not talking about the effort to implement that automount though ;)) | 14:23 |
sledges | hi aggelos_ | 14:23 |
aggelos_ | currently considering going for an n9, so I just dropped by to see what's going on :) | 14:24 |
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sledges | a wise choice indeed :) | 14:24 |
aggelos_ | would I be able to run nemo for real on it atm? | 14:25 |
sledges | for real? | 14:25 |
sledges | i'm running it on N9 atm | 14:25 |
faenil | aggelos_, not as a daily distro I'd say | 14:25 |
faenil | though I haven't been actively updating in the last month | 14:26 |
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sledges | not currently | 14:26 |
sledges | but GSM works | 14:26 |
sledges | wifi also | 14:26 |
aggelos_ | yah, sorry. I meant: would I be able to reliably received phone calls, text messages | 14:26 |
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aggelos_ | hmm | 14:26 |
aggelos_ | that sounds very encouraging tbh | 14:26 |
sledges | I called myself several times today - it was good | 14:26 |
sledges | let me try texting.. | 14:26 |
aggelos_ | I've no idea how the gsm stuff works on the n9. is it via an api to some nokia daemon? | 14:27 |
sledges | on nemo they use ofono+telepathy | 14:28 |
sledges | i just received my text from other phone/operator fine | 14:29 |
sledges | :) | 14:29 |
sledges | though notifications need work as they did not notify me I got text (vanna wolunteer)? | 14:29 |
aggelos_ | good :) | 14:29 |
aggelos_ | heh | 14:29 |
aggelos_ | well | 14:29 |
aggelos_ | tbh I'm more of a low-level systems person | 14:29 |
aggelos_ | but I guess I could help there | 14:30 |
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sledges | then you could look at GPS non working | 14:30 |
sledges | if talking low level here | 14:30 |
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sledges | some reevrse engineering would be involved | 14:30 |
aggelos_ | sledges: yah, that sounds like something you'd work on on a spare device, not your actual phone :/ | 14:31 |
aggelos_ | hmm | 14:31 |
w00t | sledges: I already took a bit of a look at that: https://plus.google.com/106934938516166105299/posts/3AUPVPFfHFC | 14:31 |
aggelos_ | would I have or want to use harmattan? seems the installation instructions imply that | 14:32 |
sledges | well harmattan is stock N9 OS, I'm using it daily | 14:32 |
sledges | but now will be rebooting to nemo more often, as my SIM cards started to work (thanks for the fix to the community) | 14:33 |
sledges | and harmattan is a mature enough productised OS (people at nokia worked fulltime on it) | 14:33 |
sledges | so it includes all peripherals | 14:33 |
sledges | working, connectivity, social etc | 14:33 |
aggelos_ | the dual boot option sounds very enticing | 14:33 |
aggelos_ | so you could boot into mer during the night to hack on it, but still have a reliable phone during the day ;) | 14:34 |
sledges | but if you want to make/receive calls/texts, nemo is enough (as soon as it will emit a sound to notify, should not be a hard fix) | 14:34 |
sledges | that's what i do ;) | 14:34 |
aggelos_ | sledges: ok, thanks, that's very helpful | 14:35 |
aggelos_ | and what I wanted to hear, really :) | 14:35 |
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sledges | glad to help out really! feel free to stick around | 14:36 |
aggelos_ | thanks | 14:36 |
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faenil | :) | 14:38 |
sledges | w00t, is there anyway to disable aegis? open kernel along those lines etc) | 14:38 |
sledges | testing irssi whitespace | 14:49 |
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w00t | sledges: i have no idea, i don't hack harmattan | 14:57 |
sledges | ok, but thanks for your post | 14:57 |
* w00t much prefers just using an OS he doesn't have to fight against | 14:57 | |
sledges | I think Nemo screwed my harmattan's aegis, so I could try to gut it | 14:57 |
w00t | if you can help poke around, go ahead | 14:57 |
sledges | will do, when fix my car's gearbox first on saturday :) | 15:01 |
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sledges | ok, Nemo MusicShelf plays music (.ogg file from Music/) though still silent on max volume. | 15:33 |
sledges | now why is there no ringtone sound? | 15:34 |
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sledges | enabled everything in alsamixer, got some feedback (mic works hey!), got ogg playback amplified (thanks to DAC2 Analog and PreDriv levels up) | 15:41 |
sledges | but still no ringtone | 15:41 |
sledges | hunting a bug in bz :) | 15:41 |
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sledges | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274#c4 | 15:45 |
Merbot | Nemo bug 274 in Dialer "Receiving or answering an incoming call is not possible" [Critical,Assigned] | 15:45 |
sledges | since 4months no ringtone %) | 15:45 |
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w00t | alterego: what's the current status on ringtones? | 15:48 |
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sledges | it looks like very recent action is under way: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/7521 | 15:51 |
darkborg | hi folks, is there an usable image for n950 ? if yes, where can i found it ? | 15:55 |
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sledges | darkborg, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Images | 16:03 |
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darkborg | sledges: is it usable, i mean, all phone things are working ? make calls, 3g, ... ? | 16:07 |
darkborg | sledges: btw, thanks | 16:07 |
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sledges | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo#Status darkborg | 16:09 |
sledges | nemo is wip | 16:09 |
sledges | but today I could make calls (some could make them even earlier, but now my main SIM is supported, hurrah! :)) | 16:09 |
darkborg | sledges: cool, i think i'll test it :) | 16:11 |
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sledges | it has huge potential what I can say | 16:12 |
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darkborg | it's good to heard it | 16:16 |
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sledges | ringtones work | 16:48 |
sledges | but the file is missing, and they are also muted | 16:48 |
sledges | and when I unmute it, it works, but afterwards no music is heard coming from MusicShelf anymore until reboot | 16:58 |
sledges | (alsamixer all levels up do not resurrect musicshelf) | 16:59 |
sledges | filing a bug | 16:59 |
sledges | :) | 16:59 |
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phaeron | that's profile related | 17:05 |
phaeron | I thought new voicecall would fix it | 17:05 |
sledges | new voicecall re-enables ringtones https://github.com/nemomobile/voicecall/commit/f9b342873a07e05df054bc870e03ad376cfbce01 | 17:06 |
sledges | but in here thei hardcode to /usr/share/voicecall/sounds/ring-1.wav which is not packaged https://github.com/nemomobile/voicecall/commit/39893e9e61a55477e865916a505cfab15d8c3576 | 17:06 |
sledges | even /usr/share/voicecall does not exist | 17:07 |
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sledges | after i placed the file there, still no ringtone was heard (alsamixer Earpeace* levels made it audible) | 17:08 |
sledges | and after all i've done, I couldn't listen to any other sound/music from musicshelf | 17:08 |
sledges | probably this is not fixed still: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274#c4 | 17:09 |
Merbot | Nemo bug 274 in Dialer "Receiving or answering an incoming call is not possible" [Critical,Assigned] | 17:09 |
sledges | (comment #4) | 17:09 |
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Sage | w00t: after this next mer release I'm starting to cleanup nemo things more and prepare new images and new guides how to update etc. | 17:12 |
phaeron | that's not what I mean | 17:12 |
faenil | Sage, thanks | 17:13 |
sledges | phaeron, enlighten me | 17:13 |
sledges | (bug report is on its way already btw ;p ) | 17:13 |
phaeron | thanks, will let alterego comment there | 17:14 |
w00t | Sage: meaning: migration? | 17:14 |
Sage | w00t: yes. After the patterns and image configs are cleaned then we can move. And that happens after this mer-next which I hope is ready today ;) | 17:16 |
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sledges | done, https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=593 | 17:18 |
Merbot | Nemo bug 593 in Dialer "enabling ringtone disables other music playback" [Normal,New] | 17:18 |
w00t | Sage: mmk - would just be nice as I think a lot of things will improve (or can improve ;)) once that happens | 17:19 |
Sage | w00t: yup, for example the update process will become a bit nicer and image builds. Also we get finally proper promotion process and qa steps | 17:20 |
sledges | \o/ | 17:20 |
* phaeron hides | 17:20 | |
phaeron | promise to try to have the webhook support ready | 17:20 |
w00t | phaeron: yeah... I wasn't naming features, but i'd say that's #1 on my wishlist | 17:21 |
w00t | :P | 17:21 |
w00t | phaeron: btw, did Stskeeps tell you about my crazy idea yet? | 17:21 |
phaeron | which one :D | 17:22 |
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phaeron | w00t: can we get the qdecorator please ... | 17:23 |
w00t | phaeron: so.. when we start migrating stuff to qt5 in earnest, we'll want to provide two packages - one for foo, one for foo-qt5, hopefully with fairly minimal (or no) changes to source trees/packaging, as the source compatibiility is very high.. to ease development/integration, I was musing on ways to automate packaging, and then realised we kind of already have one with webhooks - and was musing on how possible it would be to generate two | 17:24 |
Sage | and from the most of the things we can thank phaeron :) | 17:25 |
w00t | ... that probably doesn't make a lot of sense as I've only thought of it today, and putting it in words is a bit awkward | 17:25 |
w00t | so feel free to ask for clarifications | 17:25 |
phaeron | w00t: we are already doing that for our kernel packaging ;) | 17:26 |
w00t | ok, so not impossible | 17:27 |
w00t | good to hear ;) | 17:27 |
Sage | phaeron: I think we could kill Project:MTF:* repos | 17:28 |
Sage | confuse people and I've managed to say to everyone not to push anything there and it seemed to work so safe to kill I would say :) | 17:29 |
Sage | would save some resource and reduce the search results when people are searching things | 17:29 |
phaeron | Sage: I agree | 17:30 |
phaeron | w00t: so can we get qdecorator :D | 17:32 |
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* lpotter wonders where libofono-qt changes should go | 18:08 | |
w00t | lpotter: ask me in 40min (dinnertime) | 18:09 |
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lpotter | w00t: ping | 18:59 |
w00t | lpotter: so it's an old meego package right? | 18:59 |
lpotter | yes | 19:00 |
w00t | and there's no repo for it in nemomobile yet? | 19:00 |
lpotter | nope. and I am not a member of that yet :) | 19:00 |
w00t | lpotter: point me to the meego git | 19:01 |
lpotter | git://gitorious.org/meego-cellular/ofono-qt.git | 19:02 |
w00t | lpotter: pushed to github.com/nemomobile/libofono-qt | 19:06 |
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w00t | lpotter: can you push any patches in obs (if any) as a pull request? (and same for any of your changes) - after you've pushed some changes there I'll grant you access yourself - meritocracy and all that | 19:09 |
lpotter | yep. ok | 19:15 |
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* lpotter hopes he did that right | 19:45 | |
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w00t | lpotter: looks like it | 19:57 |
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* Sage calls delete for the Project:MTF:* | 20:20 | |
* phaeron feels cobs heave | 20:23 | |
Sage | umm... how can I remove develpackage? | 20:23 |
Sage | with changedevelrequest or something? | 20:23 |
Sage | MerSDK [sage@sage-x230 patterns]$ obs-community rdelete -r -f Project:MTF:UX | 20:23 |
Sage | Server returned an error: HTTP Error 400: Bad Request | 20:23 |
Sage | packages in this project are used by following packages as devel package: CE:UX:MTF/clean-device, | 20:24 |
Sage | ah, in meta pkg | 20:24 |
phaeron | you're going to have to remove it from the xml | 20:24 |
Sage | oh, need to go through all the packages :P | 20:25 |
phaeron | I think if I do it as admin it will override | 20:25 |
Sage | feel free to call that :) | 20:25 |
phaeron | Sage: did you make sure there are no changes needed there ? | 20:25 |
Sage | I haven't accepted anything there in a long time, but no didn't check it. But people would have asked about the changes already by now. | 20:26 |
phaeron | hopefully yes | 20:26 |
Sage | so Project:MTF:UX Project:MTF:MW and Project:MTF can be removed | 20:27 |
phaeron | Sage: some bits are in MTF:UX but not in CE | 20:28 |
phaeron | webupload-engine transfer-ui share-ui | 20:28 |
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Sage | I don't think we need those. Nobody has asked and that was just my own packaging excersize at some point :) | 20:31 |
Sage | I never finished the packaging of those | 20:31 |
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Sage | or testing of those | 20:31 |
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phaeron | do you at least have the code somewhere | 20:33 |
phaeron | or move them to some attic project | 20:33 |
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Sage | those are from gitorious tree yes | 20:33 |
phaeron | ok | 20:34 |
phaeron | will try to remove that project first | 20:34 |
Sage | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-sharing-framework/ | 20:34 |
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Sage | contains those bits | 20:34 |
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phaeron | ha still complains about devel project | 20:35 |
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phaeron | RIP project:MTF:UX | 21:07 |
phaeron | RIP Project:MTF:MW | 21:13 |
phaeron | Sage: done | 21:13 |
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w00t | phaeron: did you just baleet them? \o/ | 21:24 |
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phaeron | yep | 21:25 |
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Sage | phaeron: \o/ | 21:52 |
phaeron | Sage: for i in `osc -A cobs ls CE:UX:MTF`; do osc -A cobs meta pkg CE:UX:MTF $i | sed -e '/<devel project=/d' | osc -A cobs meta pkg CE:UX:MTF $i -F - ; done | 21:55 |
phaeron | did the trick for removing devel projects | 21:55 |
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Sage | :) | 21:56 |
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Sage | phaeron: you recall the etherpad I did for ssu instructions at some point? | 22:39 |
Sage | I lost the url and forgot to copy the stuff out of it :P | 22:39 |
Sage | ah, history saves | 22:39 |
phaeron | Sage: http://piratepad.net/kJGfuaoUuO | 22:40 |
Sage | :nod: | 22:42 |
Sage | Only thing that I haven't figured out yet is the distribution of patterns :) | 22:43 |
Sage | and I still wouldn't want to stack them all in single repo. | 22:43 |
Sage | only thing I can think of is to do different branch for each project I need to push patterns to | 22:45 |
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phaeron | Sage: make it work , then make it work better | 22:50 |
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Sage | yup, doing 8 branches or something probably tomorrow. | 22:51 |
Sage | 1 for each hw + ux + mw + apps | 22:52 |
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Sage | lets see if my brains work while I'm sleeping ;) | 22:53 |
phaeron | it usually does | 22:53 |
HtheB | sledges: yo | 22:53 |
the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7534 Accepted promotion request | 23:07 |
aggelos_ | hmm | 23:14 |
aggelos_ | trying the nemo vm-i586 image, lipstick keeps dying w/ SIGILL and getting respawned | 23:14 |
aggelos_ | does this sound familiar to anyone? | 23:16 |
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sledges | aggelos_, is it a new image | 23:26 |
sledges | new/updated ? | 23:27 |
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sledges | and is it lipstick keeps respawning, or the whol Xorg kills everything altogether and respawns? | 23:27 |
sledges | journalctl should complain somewhere maybe | 23:28 |
sledges | try some other version as well (older ones not necessarily should be same worse either ;) happens sometimes) | 23:28 |
sledges | ok, time to zleep ;) cya 2m! | 23:28 |
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aggelos_ | sledges: yah, tons of complaints, it wasn't just lipstick dying | 23:38 |
aggelos_ | sledges: strangely enough, it was better after a reboot (a few things got killed a respawned and then I stopped getting the messages) | 23:39 |
aggelos_ | so I proceeded w/ the installation, but now (as previously) I get a black screen w/ the 'X' X cursor | 23:40 |
aggelos_ | hmm | 23:40 |
aggelos_ | and no VTs when booting from hd | 23:40 |
Sage | sledges: hmmp... for me it worked fine. | 23:42 |
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special | phaeron: know anything about dbus policies? | 23:49 |
phaeron | special: a little | 23:50 |
special | I'm trying: qdbus --system com.nokia.time /com/nokia/time alarms_enabled | 23:51 |
special | and getting access denied errors, but from /etc/dbus-1/system.d/timed.conf I cannot see why. | 23:51 |
phaeron | looking at the policy file | 23:52 |
special | ..but other processes are using that service without any problem | 23:55 |
phaeron | special: works for me qdbus --system --literal com.nokia.time /com/nokia/time/system_time/operational org.freedesktop.DBus.Peer.GetMachineId | 23:59 |
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