| chriadam | HtheB: generally, the device will get 192.168.2.15 as its ip, so you want to set your development computer's usb0 ip to 192.168.2.14. note that if network manager gets in the way, you need to open the network manager applet and disable the "wired" connection which is actually the usb connection. network manager might also change the network interface to be an ethX device because it's retarded. | 00:03 |
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| HtheB | oke, trying to flash the bootloader (had to revert things yesterday to boot up harmattan( | 00:03 |
| chriadam | so, basically, open nm-applet, disable the wired connection, then run ifconfig - usb0 should exist, do: sudo ifconfig eth1 up 192.168.2.14; then you should be able to ping .15 at least. | 00:04 |
| chriadam | oh, ok. | 00:04 |
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| HtheB | chriadam: oke, so now im at the bootloader | 00:23 |
| HtheB | telling that i can telnet to 2.15 | 00:23 |
| chriadam | ok, you never want to telnet to 2.15, but at least the network interface should be up at this point. | 00:24 |
| chriadam | so, on your development box, what does "ifconfig" tell you? | 00:24 |
| HtheB | oh | 00:24 |
| HtheB | lets see | 00:24 |
| HtheB | eth0 and wlan0 | 00:24 |
| HtheB | and lo | 00:24 |
| chriadam | you've plugged in your usb cable from the device to your dev box? | 00:25 |
| HtheB | yes | 00:25 |
| chriadam | which version of linux are you using? | 00:25 |
| HtheB | how else could I flash it to the bootloader? | 00:25 |
| HtheB | ubuntu 12.10 | 00:25 |
| HtheB | with ugly unity | 00:25 |
| chriadam | if you grep through /var/log/syslog for usb0 do you see anything? | 00:25 |
| chriadam | or syslog.1 | 00:26 |
| HtheB | no | 00:27 |
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| chriadam | HtheB: for "*usb*" ? | 00:28 |
| chriadam | if not, try plugging your usb cable into a different usb port. | 00:28 |
| chriadam | preferably a powered one (so it can draw current) | 00:28 |
| HtheB | how do you grep? | 00:29 |
| HtheB | maybe i do it wrong | 00:29 |
| chriadam | cat /var/log/syslog* | grep usb | 00:29 |
| HtheB | cat /var/log/syslog | 00:30 |
| HtheB | oke, then i do it good :P | 00:30 |
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| HtheB_ | meh, firefox crashed | 00:32 |
| HtheB_ | (using webchat atm) | 00:32 |
| HtheB_ | there are a lot of messages though | 00:33 |
| HtheB_ | trying to pastebin | 00:33 |
| HtheB_ | but it crashes somehow when I go to pastebin :/ | 00:33 |
| HtheB_ | (firefox) | 00:33 |
| chriadam | HtheB: tbh I don't know what could be going on. maybe you don't have the kernel modules needed to talk to set up the usb ethernet device. modprobe -l | grep g_ether tell you anything? | 00:34 |
| HtheB_ | kernel/drivers/usb/gadget/g_ether.ko | 00:34 |
| chriadam | anyway, it sounds like you've got a broken system. try looking for information on the wiki, but I don't know how to help you, unfortunately :-( | 00:34 |
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| HtheB | chriadam: could it be that because I' m using the modified moslo? | 00:35 |
| HtheB | (dual boot) | 00:35 |
| chriadam | no idea, I'm sorry | 00:35 |
| chriadam | never tried that | 00:35 |
| unifly | remove camble usb, do the command: diff <(dmesg) <(sleep 30; dmesg), next first of 30 seconds you insert usb and wait the output | 00:35 |
| unifly | *cable | 00:35 |
| HtheB | ok | 00:37 |
| HtheB | unifly: check pm | 00:38 |
| HtheB | ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ diff <(dmesg) <(sleep 30; dmesg) 1423a1424,1431 > [ 2561.855173] usb 2-1.4: new high-speed USB device number 14 using ehci_hcd > [ 2561.948578] usb 2-1.4: unable to get BOS descriptor > [ 2565.159705] usb 2-1.4: USB disconnect, device number 14 > [ 2566.383178] usb 2-1.4: new high-speed USB device number 15 using ehci_hcd > [ 2566.498604] SQUASHFS error: squashfs_read_data failed to read block 0x60ab210 > [ 2566.49 | 00:40 |
| HtheB | d fragment cache entry [60ab210] > [ 2566.498618] SQUASHFS error: Unable to read page, block 60ab210, size 68f4 > [ 2568.999584] usb 2-1.4: USB disconnect, device number 15 | 00:40 |
| HtheB | oke, somehow | 00:42 |
| HtheB | tried again, gives me a total different output | 00:42 |
| HtheB | 1446a1447,1465 > [ 2826.751082] usb 2-1.4: new high-speed USB device number 19 using ehci_hcd > [ 2826.844079] usb 2-1.4: unable to get BOS descriptor > [ 2829.908186] usb 2-1.4: USB disconnect, device number 19 > [ 2831.131083] usb 2-1.4: new high-speed USB device number 20 using ehci_hcd > [ 2831.246252] SQUASHFS error: Unable to read fragment cache entry [60ab210] > [ 2831.246260] SQUASHFS error: Unable to read page, block 60ab2 | 00:43 |
| HtheB | 2-1.4: USB disconnect, device number 20 > [ 2855.290865] usb 2-1.4: new high-speed USB device number 21 using ehci_hcd > [ 2855.778720] usb 2-1.4: device not accepting address 21, error -71 > [ 2855.794985] hub 2-1:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4 > [ 2856.287086] usb 2-1.4: new high-speed USB device number 23 using ehci_hcd > [ 2856.386442] scsi11 : usb-storage 2-1.4:2.4 > [ 2856.393562] SQUASHFS error: Unable to rea | 00:43 |
| HtheB | [ 2856.393572] SQUASHFS error: Unable to read page, block 409406a, size a165 > [ 2856.393925] SQUASHFS error: Unable to read fragment cache entry [546d926] > [ 2856.393933] SQUASHFS error: Unable to read page, block 546d926, size 82eb > [ 2857.388702] scsi 11:0:0:0: Direct-Access Linux File-CD Gadget 0316 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 > [ 2857.391532] sd 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 > [ 2857.394750] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdd] Attach | 00:43 |
| unifly | stop to post code HtheB | 00:44 |
| HtheB | stopped | 00:44 |
| HtheB | that was the last part though | 00:44 |
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| unifly | you try to find the error | 00:44 |
| HtheB | it says something about attatched scsi removable disk | 00:44 |
| HtheB | no luck :( | 00:49 |
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| deztructor_ | snow and mild minus, morning | 07:03 |
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| sledges | g'morn! | 10:04 |
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| Termana | morning | 10:53 |
| Termana | Is the image repo suppose to be *really* slow? I'm stuck downloading at 29.5KB/s | 10:54 |
| Sage | usually it has been ok, no idea what is up | 10:58 |
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| niqt | Sage: will have we the Christmas version of nemo? | 11:25 |
| sledges | nice niqt :) and Sage, what happened to the nice green background? now it's all winter since August :D (that nice green | 11:27 |
| sledges | would look great on social websites as mouth watering screenshots) | 11:27 |
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| Sage | niqt: lets see | 11:42 |
| Sage | niqt: the updates are running in constantly and people can just update the images the fact that there is new image/snapshot doesn't mean it has something special in it really | 11:43 |
| niqt | This morning I encounter any difficulties with upgrades with repositories, maybe is my network problem, i'll try later | 11:45 |
| sledges | just got a cunning idea (see mer mailing list ;)) | 11:48 |
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| khertan | Morning all | 12:38 |
| sledges | good mornan! | 12:39 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7526 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7526 | 16:32 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7527 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7527 | 20:19 |
| sledges | It doesn't really work if we target our Nemo social presence text to a non-geek audience | 20:29 |
| sledges | with the text the way it is | 20:29 |
| Aard | nemo social presence? | 20:29 |
| sledges | the question: what is the target audience? For non-geeks is too early imo, as one cannot use Nemo sas daily phone (yet) | 20:30 |
| Aard | depends on your masochism level | 20:30 |
| sledges | Aard, http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00942.html | 20:31 |
| sledges | let's say, those who use will be on either side of the Gauss curve :) | 20:32 |
| Aard | yeah, for that it's probably too early | 20:32 |
| sledges | we should target the middle part of the Gauss curve | 20:32 |
| * sledges will revise the text | 20:34 | |
| sledges | :} | 20:34 |
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| HtheB | marquiz, Aard, sledges ... one of you here? | 22:17 |
| HtheB | (or anybody else?) | 22:17 |
| sledges | around here HtheB | 22:18 |
| sledges | :) | 22:18 |
| HtheB | do you have any knowledge of moslo ? :( | 22:18 |
| HtheB | I am trying to get nemo on the n950 for like 3 days now | 22:18 |
| HtheB | without any luck | 22:18 |
| Aard | HtheB: here, half | 22:18 |
| HtheB | same question for you Aard, any knowledge of moslo? | 22:18 |
| Aard | the latest version of nemos moslo is patched by me | 22:19 |
| HtheB | I flash the device, but after that, I just get a message telling that it can't repartition | 22:19 |
| HtheB | oh really!? great! | 22:19 |
| Aard | telnet into the device? | 22:19 |
| HtheB | hope you can help me | 22:19 |
| HtheB | Aard: couldn't telnet it | 22:19 |
| HtheB | even though it said that I could telnet it | 22:19 |
| Aard | why not? | 22:19 |
| HtheB | 192.168.2.15 | 22:19 |
| HtheB | no connection | 22:19 |
| HtheB | somehow, it doesnt show on my ubuntu | 22:19 |
| sledges | ping ? | 22:20 |
| sledges | ifconfig usb0 ? | 22:20 |
| HtheB | Let me turn on ubuntu quickly | 22:20 |
| Aard | HtheB: you need to manually set it up, configure 192.168.2.14 as local ip | 22:20 |
| HtheB | to show u the results | 22:20 |
| sledges | ^ what Aard said :) | 22:20 |
| HtheB | hang on, takes just a couple seconds | 22:20 |
| HtheB | (i really hope this time it WILL work because I want to join this project aswell) | 22:21 |
| Aard | HtheB: which timezone are you in? I'm about to go to bed | 22:21 |
| sledges | 22:22 here :) | 22:22 |
| HtheB | 23:22 | 22:22 |
| sledges | I can stick around for a bit | 22:22 |
| Aard | 00:22 here :) | 22:22 |
| sledges | lol | 22:22 |
| sledges | as I sorted repartition problem on N9 | 22:22 |
| sledges | (wiki updated) | 22:22 |
| HtheB | Aard | 22:22 |
| HtheB | Im trying the dualboot method | 22:22 |
| HtheB | on the N950 | 22:22 |
| HtheB | any differences? | 22:22 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7528 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7528 | 22:23 |
| sledges | best is to try the simplest first - before carving too many changes to bootloaders | 22:23 |
| Aard | sledges: what exactly did you update? | 22:23 |
| Aard | from what I have the problem is the old parted we have in moslo sometimes segfaulting during the initial repartitioning | 22:25 |
| sledges | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#FATAL:_Re-partitioning_failed.21_You_might_be_in_trouble.21 | 22:25 |
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| sledges | in my N9 case it mixed up partition numbering | 22:26 |
| sledges | as you see | 22:26 |
| HtheB_ | back on ubuntu | 22:26 |
| Aard | ah, yes, that's the result, not the cause | 22:26 |
| sledges | sure, and the kludge to it :) | 22:26 |
| Aard | it was only now documented that you need to manually restore the partitions? | 22:26 |
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| HtheB | so what do I have to do guys | 22:27 |
| Aard | HtheB: can your n950 still boot to harmattan? | 22:27 |
| HtheB | no | 22:27 |
| HtheB | well | 22:27 |
| HtheB | I had to reflash the moslo with an empty.img | 22:28 |
| HtheB | after that, it booted | 22:28 |
| sledges | Aard, I added manual fix description back in August | 22:28 |
| HtheB | otherwise, it will show the nokia logo, and will shut down just before the "circle loading" thing happens | 22:28 |
| Aard | HtheB: so right now it boots to harmattan again? | 22:28 |
| HtheB | at the moment: yes | 22:28 |
| Aard | sledges: the documentation is status I had something like half a year ago, but it seems neither I nor the people I helped in fixing their devices documented it before | 22:29 |
| Aard | HtheB: well, that's a good sign, your partitiontable is not screwed up at the moment :) | 22:29 |
| HtheB | what do you advice me to get this still going on | 22:29 |
| Aard | HtheB: now you should flash moslo | 22:29 |
| HtheB | oh by the way | 22:29 |
| HtheB | i have pr1.3 already on the device | 22:30 |
| HtheB | does that matter? | 22:30 |
| sledges | that's why it's documented since I found no documentation :) | 22:30 |
| Aard | HtheB: it _should_ not, since on n950 the relevant bits should be in nolo, but I don't have a n950 myself | 22:30 |
| HtheB | oke flashing the moslo again | 22:31 |
| HtheB | with command | 22:32 |
| HtheB | sudo flasher -a moslo-rootfs-1.2011.34-2_RM680-OEM1-916_0.0.13-12.1.bin -L usr/share/moslo/moslo.img --suppress-warranty-warning -f -R | 22:32 |
| HtheB | oke | 22:34 |
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| HtheB | so now I have flashed the moslo | 22:34 |
| HtheB | phone is booting | 22:34 |
| HtheB | into the green loader | 22:34 |
| HtheB | so, what next? | 22:35 |
| Aard | what did it say about partitioning? | 22:36 |
| HtheB | ugh, it reboots just a second | 22:36 |
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| HtheB | Aard, got a second? | 22:39 |
| HtheB | seems like it doesnt flashed it correctly | 22:40 |
| HtheB | is there any "force" command to flash it? | 22:40 |
| HtheB | (phone needs at least 11% to flash it says) | 22:40 |
| HtheB | it's at 7% | 22:40 |
| HtheB | (charging at the moment) | 22:40 |
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| Aard | there's an option to make flasher wait until the phone is charged | 22:40 |
| HtheB | its already " waiting untill it's 11%" and then itll flash | 22:41 |
| HtheB | autom. | 22:41 |
| Aard | yes | 22:41 |
| Aard | then you'll just have to wait | 22:41 |
| HtheB | that takes only like 1-2 seconds | 22:41 |
| HtheB | (flashing moslo) | 22:41 |
| HtheB | I remember it just said something like | 22:42 |
| HtheB | ERR: can't re-partition | 22:42 |
| HtheB | you can telnet to 192.168.2.15 | 22:42 |
| HtheB | and when i remove the usb cable, it says that no alternative os found, booting into harmattan in 10 seconds | 22:42 |
| Aard | yes, removing the usb cable at that point is a stupid idea. you should telnet in, as it tells you to | 22:43 |
| HtheB | well, i couldn't reach it :D | 22:44 |
| Aard | you just need to configure the interface on your computer as well :) | 22:44 |
| Aard | if you're lucky partitioning will work this time, it's not blowing up every time | 22:44 |
| HtheB | I tried it like 10 times now :p | 22:45 |
| sledges | i rememeber it will fail forever now, as it failed for me | 22:46 |
| sledges | it messes up partition numbering first time | 22:46 |
| HtheB | so, any advice? | 22:46 |
| sledges | so it re-partitions fine | 22:46 |
| sledges | telnet! | 22:46 |
| Aard | sledges: the interesting bit is that he says he can boot into harmattan. on n9 it breaks the harmattan partition | 22:46 |
| HtheB | i couldnt boot into harmattan before flashing an empty img file | 22:47 |
| sledges | ^ | 22:47 |
| sledges | as I said: it repartitions fine, but then performs a check and sees that new partition is not there (just because numebring is assigned wrongly) | 22:47 |
| sledges | so says regardless: "repartition failed" | 22:48 |
| Aard | ah, interesting. on n9 flasher bitched about partition tables beeing broken when you tried reflashing anything | 22:48 |
| sledges | until manual intervention | 22:48 |
| HtheB | oke 11% | 22:48 |
| HtheB | flashed moslo now | 22:48 |
| HtheB | this is what Ive got: | 22:48 |
| HtheB | Waiting for eMMC device... | 22:48 |
| HtheB | Repartitioning MMC for AlternateOS | 22:49 |
| HtheB | Do not unplug USB or poweroff the device!!! | 22:49 |
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| HtheB | ERR: Re-partitioning failied! No partition created. | 22:49 |
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| HtheB | huh! | 22:49 |
| HtheB | thats strange! | 22:49 |
| HtheB | somehow, I've got usb0 now! | 22:50 |
| HtheB | as wired connection :/ | 22:50 |
| sledges | and so now you can telnet | 22:50 |
| HtheB | this didnt happen to me like 3 days now | 22:50 |
| HtheB | lets try ! | 22:50 |
| sledges | wait, first try ifconfig usb0 ;) | 22:50 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7528 Accepted promotion request | 22:50 |
| sledges | if you don't have your wired connection configged as static IP, might have tough luck | 22:51 |
| sledges | how to telnet is explained here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Removing_Nemo_rootfs_and_the_Alternative_OS_partition | 22:51 |
| sledges | (just first instruction ofc) | 22:52 |
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| HtheB | finally | 22:57 |
| HtheB | sorry, the whole network thing was kinda crippled suddenly | 22:58 |
| HtheB | but yes, im telnetting now | 22:58 |
| HtheB | so, what should I do next :D | 22:58 |
| HtheB | sledges, Aard | 22:59 |
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| sledges | cat /var/log/repartition.log | 23:00 |
| sledges | HtheB, ^ | 23:00 |
| HtheB | ERROR: Limits for Harmattan User partition could not be satisfied! Part size: 18463744 Required min part size: 11264000 Free space: 1383808 Required min free space: 614400 | 23:00 |
| HtheB | 6144000 * | 23:00 |
| HtheB | missed 1 zero at the end of the req min free space | 23:01 |
| sledges | all clear - delete stuff off from your /home/user/MyDocs/ | 23:01 |
| sledges | backup i.e. | 23:01 |
| HtheB | hmmm | 23:01 |
| sledges | all videos/photos etc | 23:01 |
| HtheB | i get it | 23:01 |
| HtheB | posible from telnet? | 23:01 |
| HtheB | to copy quickly some file? | 23:01 |
| HtheB | maybe they it should be documented because i have like 900 MB free I thought | 23:01 |
| sledges | it says you have 1.3GB free | 23:02 |
| sledges | you need to free up 6GB | 23:02 |
| HtheB | O_O | 23:02 |
| HtheB | that defenitly should be documented then | 23:02 |
| sledges | welcome to our shoes ;) | 23:02 |
| HtheB | :D | 23:02 |
| HtheB | thanks | 23:02 |
| HtheB | let me quickly reflash the empty file | 23:03 |
| sledges | I keep deleting my videos, good that I'm not listening to music that much | 23:03 |
| sledges | off the phone :) | 23:03 |
| HtheB | so I can boot up harmattan an make a quick backup | 23:03 |
| HtheB | I only use spotify for music though | 23:03 |
| sledges | +1 | 23:03 |
| HtheB | but thats also like 1GB | 23:03 |
| HtheB | dont have any videos | 23:03 |
| sledges | you can find out how much you use via `du -sh *` | 23:03 |
| sledges | quick and easy way | 23:04 |
| sledges | you'll find some gigabytes hidden around | 23:04 |
| sledges | :) | 23:04 |
| HtheB | yeah | 23:04 |
| HtheB | well, there is a gui tool | 23:04 |
| sledges | sure | 23:04 |
| HtheB | :D | 23:04 |
| HtheB | oke booting into harmattan | 23:04 |
| sledges | we thought of documenting those things and many others | 23:05 |
| HtheB | this is something necessary though | 23:05 |
| HtheB | hope that no other people will be faceing the same thing | 23:05 |
| sledges | but had a bar raised that someone can figure out that themselves (e.g. telnetting and figuring out where the logs are stored) | 23:06 |
| HtheB | hmm | 23:06 |
| sledges | if not, quite dangerous to proceed | 23:06 |
| sledges | but that was a year ago :D | 23:06 |
| HtheB | xD | 23:06 |
| HtheB | You know, I' m very interested in Jolla | 23:06 |
| sledges | now things became easier (including update process of nemo etc.) | 23:06 |
| HtheB | thats why I want to look into this mer project | 23:06 |
| HtheB | donno why I didnt before .... | 23:06 |
| sledges | so we need to ease up all those processes/document/fix partitioning bugs if any still around | 23:07 |
| sledges | yes, if you are eager - should be no problem | 23:07 |
| sledges | however, we do not document that and other stuff also because | 23:07 |
| sledges | it is better you come here and ask | 23:07 |
| sledges | rather than read everything from wiki, and then come here and say, I bricked my device ;) | 23:08 |
| sledges | that was the decision i remember clearly :) | 23:08 |
| Aard | well, it's hard to brick your device on that level. you'll just kill all your data, worst case | 23:08 |
| sledges | also get integrated to the community this way | 23:08 |
| sledges | correct, Aard :)) | 23:08 |
| HtheB | :D | 23:09 |
| HtheB | moving files to HDD | 23:09 |
| sledges | \o/ | 23:09 |
| HtheB | once done, i just should reflash? | 23:09 |
| Aard | I was considering some nolo hacks, but _that_ could really bring people in bad situation if they don't know what they're doing | 23:10 |
| HtheB | (my god, even my english is starting to look crappy when I'm excited) | 23:10 |
| HtheB | i did some nolo stuff on the N900 thoug | 23:10 |
| HtheB | changing nokia boot logo :p | 23:10 |
| HtheB | (color) | 23:10 |
| sledges | simple enough Aard, just don't document it :) and only hardcore tinkerers will find out :) but then, is it worth the penny? ;) | 23:11 |
| HtheB | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75504 | 23:12 |
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| sledges | good stuff HtheB | 23:13 |
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| HtheB | 5 secs left | 23:14 |
| HtheB | and done | 23:14 |
| HtheB | oke flashing moslo once again | 23:14 |
| HtheB | here it goes now... | 23:16 |
| HtheB | flashing doen | 23:16 |
| HtheB | done* | 23:16 |
| sledges | yeeeeeeehaaaaw :D | 23:16 |
| HtheB | oh yes! | 23:16 |
| HtheB | no errors! | 23:16 |
| sledges | \o/ | 23:16 |
| HtheB | \o\ | 23:16 |
| HtheB | oke, how long will this procedure take? | 23:17 |
| HtheB | yaaay \:D/ | 23:17 |
| HtheB | Alt_OS | 23:17 |
| sledges | up, you know what to do now (https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N950_.26_Nokia_N9_Rootfs_Installation) | 23:18 |
| marquiz | HtheB: yeah, i know moslo | 23:19 |
| marquiz | haven't touched it in months, though | 23:19 |
| HtheB | well | 23:23 |
| HtheB | I couldnt get past the repartition error | 23:23 |
| HtheB | but seems like I just had to have more free space on home/user/MyDocs | 23:24 |
| * sledges boots Nemo too. 279 packages to updated since last update 1.5 months ago, YOU GUYS ROCK!! :D | 23:24 | |
| HtheB | NEMO! | 23:25 |
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| HtheB | yiiihaa! | 23:25 |
| HtheB | i saw the (ugly) boot logo | 23:25 |
| HtheB | FINALLY | 23:26 |
| HtheB | NEMO ! :) | 23:26 |
| HtheB | thanks sledges ! | 23:26 |
| HtheB | so that was the only reason why I couldnt get past the damn error :D | 23:26 |
| HtheB | sometimes, things are very easy | 23:26 |
| HtheB | but.. well.. you just have to know I guess | 23:26 |
| sledges | \\o// | 23:30 |
| sledges | sounds like yet another victory :) it's time for bed :) | 23:30 |
| sledges | don't forget to update nemo HtheB | 23:31 |
| HtheB | sledges: how? | 23:31 |
| sledges | or leave it to another evening | 23:31 |
| sledges | :) | 23:31 |
| HtheB | (never used nemo before) | 23:31 |
| HtheB | i guess so | 23:31 |
| HtheB | time to fool around with nemo before going to bed | 23:31 |
| HtheB | Hope ill get to know nemo better asap :) | 23:31 |
| sledges | ah ok, fool around now, as updating would make you just wait instead :) | 23:32 |
| HtheB | :D | 23:32 |
| sledges | it takes time, but once you've taimed it, you'll feel the power and possibilities ;) | 23:32 |
| HtheB | thnx again! | 23:32 |
| HtheB | 1 question | 23:32 |
| sledges | you're welcome | 23:32 |
| sledges | go on | 23:32 |
| HtheB | whats the difference between harmattan and nemo | 23:32 |
| HtheB | any changes | 23:32 |
| HtheB | aside that nemo uses rpom | 23:32 |
| HtheB | rpm | 23:32 |
| sledges | nemo is re-using several harmattan components | 23:33 |
| HtheB | and harmattan deb | 23:33 |
| sledges | all those that were open source | 23:33 |
| sledges | so it can look and feel similar | 23:33 |
| sledges | yes, harmattan uses apt-* | 23:33 |
| sledges | nemo uses zypper | 23:33 |
| sledges | in the same fashion | 23:33 |
| HtheB | zypper | 23:33 |
| HtheB | hmm | 23:33 |
| sledges | stems from OpenSUSE | 23:33 |
| sledges | you'll get to love it soon, too :)) | 23:34 |
| HtheB | yeah, was just googling about it | 23:34 |
| HtheB | never used any rpm system before | 23:34 |
| sledges | i like `zypper up` :D | 23:34 |
| HtheB | haha | 23:34 |
| sledges | to update one's system | 23:34 |
| HtheB | helium reborn | 23:34 |
| HtheB | how to update anyway? | 23:35 |
| HtheB | maybe I can update while sleeping | 23:35 |
| sledges | here is a Rosetta, so you can see what to do on zypper, once you already know apt (or antyhting else): https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Rosetta | 23:35 |
| sledges | yes you can, but don't forget to plug it into the charger | 23:35 |
| HtheB | yeah, it was about 15% | 23:35 |
| HtheB | so I have to plug it in already | 23:35 |
| sledges | ok | 23:36 |
| sledges | basically, first connect to your wifi AP | 23:36 |
| HtheB | yes connected | 23:36 |
| sledges | via settings (click on status bar once, and it will pop down) | 23:36 |
| sledges | nice | 23:36 |
| sledges | then call the terminal | 23:36 |
| HtheB | yes | 23:37 |
| HtheB | ah, the link you gave me is very nice! | 23:37 |
| HtheB | so it's actually almost the same | 23:37 |
| HtheB | instead of apt-get | 23:37 |
| HtheB | just zypper | 23:37 |
| sledges | zypper in[stall] | 23:37 |
| HtheB | that's dpkg -i | 23:37 |
| HtheB | right? | 23:37 |
| sledges | yes | 23:38 |
| HtheB | in debian language | 23:38 |
| HtheB | oke :D quick learner over here | 23:38 |
| sledges | ;) | 23:38 |
| sledges | so | 23:38 |
| sledges | terminal | 23:38 |
| sledges | type su | 23:38 |
| HtheB | how to get root priv. | 23:38 |
| sledges | password is "nemo" | 23:38 |
| HtheB | yes | 23:38 |
| HtheB | zypper update? | 23:38 |
| sledges | then type iwconfig wlan0 power off | 23:38 |
| HtheB | oh!? | 23:38 |
| sledges | don't rush ;P | 23:38 |
| HtheB | :D | 23:39 |
| sledges | to disable wifi power management | 23:39 |
| sledges | so it downloads faster | 23:39 |
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| sledges | then type | 23:39 |
| sledges | zypper ref | 23:39 |
| sledges | (to refresh repositories) | 23:39 |
| sledges | and tell me when you're done (shouldn't be too long) | 23:39 |
| sledges | this is equiv of apt-get update | 23:39 |
| HtheB | ug | 23:39 |
| HtheB | it disabled wifi totally | 23:40 |
| sledges | shouldn't have, you might just disconnected by accident | 23:40 |
| HtheB | wifi is not available on this device | 23:41 |
| HtheB | it says | 23:41 |
| HtheB | :P | 23:41 |
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| sledges | iwconfig wlan0 power on | 23:41 |
| sledges | ? | 23:41 |
| sledges | :P :) | 23:41 |
| HtheB | weird | 23:41 |
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| HtheB | iwconfig just tells me that im connected to CIA | 23:41 |
| HtheB | (yeah, my ssid) | 23:41 |
| sledges | :)) | 23:42 |
| sledges | i got a "Password sniffer 2" from my neighbours :D | 23:42 |
| HtheB | sniff it all the way you can | 23:42 |
| HtheB | its wep | 23:42 |
| HtheB | no need to sniff it | 23:42 |
| HtheB | haha | 23:42 |
| sledges | :)) | 23:43 |
| HtheB | rebooting device | 23:43 |
| HtheB | just in case | 23:43 |
| sledges | so can you ping merproject.org ? | 23:43 |
| HtheB | nope | 23:43 |
| HtheB | nothing worked | 23:43 |
| sledges | ok, rebooting should bring you back to moslo | 23:43 |
| HtheB | or to black screen with no power?! | 23:44 |
| HtheB | xD | 23:44 |
| sledges | (I don't have n950, so I could not tell the proper wifi init for you either, iwconfig ..power off applies to my N9, dunno about 950) | 23:44 |
| sledges | just to note ;) | 23:44 |
| HtheB | hmmm | 23:44 |
| HtheB | its ok if it takes some time though | 23:44 |
| sledges | yes, ur gonna sleep anyway, and it will not drain battery hence | 23:45 |
| HtheB | i really should join this project at least for the looks of it.... | 23:45 |
| HtheB | boot logo, can better | 23:45 |
| HtheB | a little bit beauty can be good, right? :P | 23:45 |
| HtheB | btw, how do i get the dropdown menu? | 23:46 |
| sledges | yes., bootlogo=bleeding wound | 23:46 |
| sledges | tap on clock? | 23:46 |
| HtheB | ah ok | 23:47 |
| * sledges did the power button ;) | 23:47 | |
| sledges | was first tinkering with Qt, finally! :) | 23:47 |
| HtheB | hmmm | 23:48 |
| sledges | and you joined the project rght on time - we are about to finalise Nemo logo: play.qwazix.com/grog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/nemo3.png | 23:48 |
| sledges | it's all as in Captain Nemo btw ;) | 23:48 |
| HtheB | oh gosh | 23:48 |
| HtheB | no | 23:48 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7520 Accepted promotion request | 23:48 |
| sledges | it will take time to get a feeling of clicks and bottom-up swipes | 23:48 |
| HtheB | so I can enter the project? | 23:49 |
| sledges | it won the poll I'm afraid ;) and it symbolises nautical insignia. we went through the whole email thread and polling: http://polldaddy.com/poll/6679035 :) | 23:49 |
| HtheB | hmm | 23:49 |
| HtheB | :D ok | 23:49 |
| HtheB | anyway | 23:49 |
| HtheB | I guess there is a bug | 23:49 |
| HtheB | im pretty sure its a N950 thing then :( | 23:49 |
| HtheB | wifi not available on device | 23:50 |
| sledges | (can be as you are using not updated version yet) | 23:50 |
| HtheB | but now I dont know if it has to do with zypper ref or not | 23:50 |
| sledges | so you cannot connect to AP? | 23:50 |
| HtheB | i was connected just a min ago :/ | 23:50 |
| HtheB | i was | 23:50 |
| sledges | no | 23:50 |
| HtheB | but then, when it said cannot resolve | 23:50 |
| sledges | zypper ref does not update anyting on system | 23:50 |
| HtheB | i looked back int he settings | 23:50 |
| HtheB | and then again, wifi is not avail. | 23:50 |
| Frye | I have the same issue with wlan roaming. | 23:50 |
| Frye | My N900 just drops the connection | 23:50 |
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| Frye | instead of reconnecting th the closer AP | 23:51 |
| HtheB | and this time, it didn't recognized my sim either | 23:51 |
| HtheB | (didnt ask for pin) | 23:51 |
| sledges | some stuff to look into fixing ;) | 23:51 |
| HtheB | maybe its already fixed with the updates? | 23:51 |
| HtheB | i donno | 23:51 |
| sledges | lot's things done, lot's to do! | 23:51 |
| sledges | that too! | 23:51 |
| sledges | so | 23:52 |
| sledges | there's another way to connecto to the internet | 23:52 |
| HtheB | so first i need to get updated O_o | 23:52 |
| sledges | via USB! | 23:52 |
| HtheB | oh! | 23:52 |
| sledges | is not painful :) | 23:52 |
| HtheB | just rebooted again -_- | 23:52 |
| HtheB | well, tell me :D | 23:52 |
| HtheB | never did that before | 23:52 |
| sledges | you'll need to enable internet connection sharing on your Ubuntu host | 23:52 |
| HtheB | well, i always did the other way around with my good old N80 back in the days | 23:52 |
| sledges | so usb0 gets it | 23:52 |
| HtheB | oh btw, phone doesnt power off completely | 23:53 |
| HtheB | is that normal? | 23:53 |
| HtheB | (it stays black with the backlight on) | 23:53 |
| sledges | via power off menu? | 23:53 |
| HtheB | holding down the power button | 23:53 |
| sledges | which version of nemo have you extracted to AltOS? :) | 23:53 |
| HtheB | untill the nemo logo shows | 23:53 |
| HtheB | let me see | 23:53 |
| HtheB | nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-0.20120315.1.NEMO.2012-03-19.1 | 23:53 |
| sledges | mam mia | 23:54 |
| sledges | :D | 23:54 |
| HtheB | oh gosh, I guess this is kinda old | 23:54 |
| HtheB | have picked the wrong file i guess hahaha | 23:54 |
| * sledges slaps HtheB around with a large trout (and feels old fashioned :)) | 23:54 | |
| sledges | your nemo will update for ages | 23:54 |
| sledges | too | 23:54 |
| HtheB | :D | 23:54 |
| sledges | wipe out the AltOS and put latest nemo on it :) and I think we can call it a night then ;) | 23:54 |
| HtheB | :D guess so | 23:55 |
| sledges | having said that, have a good one! | 23:55 |
| sledges | see you tomorrow | 23:55 |
| HtheB | thanks! | 23:55 |
| HtheB | ttyl ! :D | 23:55 |
| sledges | welcome, and keep the sails up! | 23:56 |
| HtheB | (have to flash moslo again right?0 | 23:56 |
| HtheB | always sailing with my jolla =) | 23:56 |
| sledges | yes, but I think single boot would suffice (no need to write it to flash memory anymore) | 23:56 |
| sledges | jsut to be able to one-off access AltOS | 23:56 |
| sledges | btw, doesn't moslo offer you that anyway | 23:56 |
| sledges | a | 23:56 |
| sledges | it should! | 23:56 |
| HtheB | xD | 23:56 |
| sledges | just turn off | 23:56 |
| HtheB | yeah | 23:56 |
| sledges | the phone | 23:56 |
| HtheB | yes | 23:56 |
| HtheB | but when I turn on | 23:56 |
| sledges | and plug usb cable | 23:56 |
| HtheB | oh | 23:57 |
| sledges | and then it will turn on itself ;) | 23:57 |
| HtheB | yes | 23:57 |
| HtheB | turns on | 23:57 |
| sledges | offering AltOS mounted | 23:57 |
| sledges | ;) | 23:57 |
| HtheB | i love this | 23:57 |
| sledges | +1 | 23:57 |
| HtheB | at least.... | 23:57 |
| HtheB | yes | 23:57 |
| HtheB | love it :D | 23:57 |
| sledges | nice little details :) | 23:57 |
| HtheB | i can wipe it totally right? | 23:58 |
| sledges | yes | 23:58 |
| sledges | there's nothing there you'd miss | 23:58 |
| HtheB | evn boot-orin etc? | 23:58 |
| HtheB | oh | 23:58 |
| HtheB | i can't remove anything :/ | 23:59 |
| sledges | well, you should not use nautilus for that | 23:59 |
| HtheB | terminal | 23:59 |
| HtheB | ftw | 23:59 |
| HtheB | sudo rm -rf * ftw | 23:59 |
| sledges | sudo rm -rf /media/AltOS | 23:59 |
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