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| iekku | morning | 03:13 |
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| special | iekku: we forgot to do a second triage yesterday | 04:13 |
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| iekku | special, true | 05:57 |
| iekku | special, i have forgot lots of things | 05:58 |
| special | good | 05:59 |
| special | that means you're busy enough. | 06:00 |
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| iekku | or too busy :D | 06:03 |
| iekku | special, if i ever forgot something, don't hesitate to say | 06:04 |
| special | I had forgotten about it too :p | 06:04 |
| iekku | :) | 06:10 |
| tukem | Anybody have suggestions on why dns query from n900 over usb connection wouldn't work? | 06:16 |
| tukem | ping using ip works though | 06:16 |
| special | tukem: /etc/resolv.conf has 127.0.0.1, and that isn't set up when using usb (which should probably be filed as a mer bug) | 06:17 |
| tukem | I followed usb networking guide from wiki and set that one already | 06:17 |
| special | set it to what? | 06:17 |
| tukem | to same value I have on my laptop, ie to ip of my wireless router that forwards the query somewhere | 06:19 |
| special | does ping work on external IPs too? | 06:19 |
| tukem | I did try google dns 8.8.8.8 also with no luck | 06:19 |
| tukem | yes that works | 06:19 |
| tukem | yesterday I did zypper ref; zypper up by setting correct hostnames to /etc/hosts | 06:21 |
| special | huh. | 06:21 |
| special | network through USB works for me if I manually set resolv.conf and add the route | 06:21 |
| tukem | I have had it working earlier also but now something's changed and I can't figure out what | 06:23 |
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| tukem | wireshark capture on eth0 shows dns query from n900 is never even sent | 06:25 |
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| kontio | tukem, some iptables set in the mean time? | 06:29 |
| tukem | I had no iptables set previously so I only have the forwarding rules shown in the usb guide | 06:31 |
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| Venemo | rozhkov, ping | 06:54 |
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| Stskeeps | morn qwazix | 07:01 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: when you have a moment, do test images for snapshot of nemo? | 07:02 |
| Venemo | guys! we really-really need to solve the issue with Tracker and firstboot | 07:02 |
| qwazix | Stskeeps, good morning | 07:02 |
| Venemo | hey qwazix | 07:03 |
| Venemo | :) | 07:03 |
| qwazix | Venemo, what's up? | 07:03 |
| Venemo | qwazix, I'm sitting at SmartDevCon, next to Stskeeps | 07:04 |
| Venemo | haven't had much time to work on Nemo lately, but I'll fix that in the weekend :) | 07:04 |
| qwazix | Venemo, Stskeeps, i'm jealous. | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | the bacon's quite good | 07:05 |
| qwazix | Me too, first week @ work, last week of mccXII, too much to do | 07:05 |
| Venemo | qwazix, but I've been keeping up with the Nemo UI blog - you have lots of nice stuff there | 07:07 |
| Venemo | qwazix, we now also have an event feed API | 07:07 |
| qwazix | thanks, I'm trying now to get google to index it... | 07:07 |
| Venemo | it'll index it, eventually. if it helps, I can put a link on my own blog to it | 07:08 |
| Venemo | but not sure whether google has indexed that | 07:08 |
| qwazix | No, it's an error 500 on robots txt that prevents it from indexing | 07:09 |
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| Venemo | huh | 07:10 |
| qwazix | that was a bad .htaccess, don't know how it got there. Should be solved now | 07:11 |
| qwazix | However a link on your blog is always welcome | 07:12 |
| Kypeli_ | I am trying to set up Nemo lipstick on my Ubuntu. It requires MLIte, which I have installed. But when I compile lipstick I get this error: http://pastebin.com/HRwYavbG | 07:12 |
| Kypeli_ | I do have libqt4-dbus installed, but it does not provide a pkg-config file. | 07:12 |
| Kypeli_ | So I was wondering what kind of versions I should use? | 07:12 |
| Stskeeps | Kypeli_: got a -dev package too? | 07:13 |
| Venemo | Kypeli_, you can compile mlite for ubuntu. | 07:13 |
| Kypeli_ | Good question | 07:13 |
| qwazix | be back in a while | 07:13 |
| Venemo | Kypeli_, also, you will need the -dev packages for QtDBus | 07:13 |
| Venemo | k | 07:13 |
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| Kypeli_ | Stskeeps: I use Qt 4.8.1 from QtSDK. I guess I am still ok even though I install the Ubuntu's libqt4-dev package? | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, i don't know | 07:15 |
| Kypeli_ | Let's see :) | 07:15 |
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| Stskeeps | we should really find a way to do things with mer platform sdk etc though | 07:15 |
| Kypeli_ | :nod: | 07:15 |
| Venemo | Kypeli_, yes you are | 07:15 |
| Kypeli_ | OTOH Ubuntu provides Qt 4.8.1 so not sure why I use QtSDK's version... | 07:15 |
| Venemo | Kypeli_, you can have multiple Qt versions on the same machine. | 07:16 |
| Kypeli_ | Yeah... if I need to, not just sure I need :) | 07:16 |
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| Venemo | I preferred not to install desktop Qt in the Qt SDK - I'm just using what comes with Fedora | 07:17 |
| Kypeli_ | That sounds better indeed | 07:17 |
| Venemo | all I needed was 'yum -y install qt-devel' | 07:21 |
| Venemo | for ubuntu it should be like 'apt-get install libqt4-dev' or similar | 07:21 |
| Kypeli_ | Yes | 07:23 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: doing the images | 08:01 |
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| rozhkov | Sage: SR#6673 seems stuck | 08:26 |
| Venemo | would it be possible to make the Nemo splash screen consistent? | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | define consistent | 08:28 |
| Venemo | eg. on startup, show the splash screen, and keep showing it until the homescreen start | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | black magic | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | probably with user sessions | 08:28 |
| Venemo | it should be: | 08:28 |
| Venemo | bootup -> splach screen ->homescreen | 08:28 |
| Venemo | it is: | 08:29 |
| Venemo | garbage in gfx memory -> black screen -> splash screen -> garbage in graphics memory -> black screen -> home screen | 08:29 |
| Sage | rozhkov: not stuck, just haven't cleared the queue yet ;) | 08:29 |
| Venemo | why this is a problem: when seeing the 2nd black screen, I don't know whether it crashed or it just taking that long to launch | 08:29 |
| Venemo | also, why are we displaying garbage from gfx memory? | 08:30 |
| rozhkov | Sage: ah, i see :) i thought it needed to go under automated review first | 08:30 |
| Venemo | the other important thing is fixing that slowdown on first boot | 08:30 |
| Venemo | and then the shutdown screen | 08:30 |
| Venemo | when these are done, we should speed up the startup | 08:31 |
| Venemo | but the most important are: 1) fix the slowdown (tweak tracker) 2) make spashscreen consistent | 08:31 |
| Sage | rozhkov: not in there :/ | 08:31 |
| Venemo | fixing the slowdown is the most important, because nowadays every new user (even seasoned devs!) are under the impression that Nemo is slow | 08:32 |
| Venemo | and that's plain wrong | 08:32 |
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| Xruxa | Venemo: also, IMHO launching app now with the new Homescreen is visibly slower than launching it with the old meegotouchhome | 08:39 |
| Venemo | Xruxa, I srsly doubt it | 08:41 |
| Venemo | maybe the animation is slow and that's why it _feels_ slower | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: do you start the animation before or after actually launching the app? | 08:42 |
| Xruxa | Venemo: certainly feels slower | 08:42 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, after. | 08:42 |
| Xruxa | could be some other part of the system though ... | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, maybe we need to debug a bit then | 08:43 |
| Venemo | Xruxa, as I said, maybe the animation makes it feel slower, but it isn't actually slower | 08:43 |
| Xruxa | gives 4 seconds for QmlComponentGallery (wristwatch measure) vs the 3 seconds before | 08:43 |
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| Venemo | Xruxa, https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/blob/master/src/components/launcheritem.cpp#L254 | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, maybe the handling/desktop file execution | 08:44 |
| Xruxa | though as I said, could be some other part of the system | 08:44 |
| Venemo | Xruxa, improvements are welcome | 08:45 |
| Sage | Venemo: it feels slower to me as well. | 08:45 |
| Venemo | hm | 08:45 |
| Venemo | Sage, Xruxa, it uses the same code. | 08:47 |
| Venemo | I mean, srsly. | 08:47 |
| Venemo | http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-home/blobs/master/src/libmeegotouchhome/launcherbutton.cpp#line73 | 08:48 |
| Xruxa | though boosted WG starts just as fast as ever, so only QtComponent apps are slower ? | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 08:48 |
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| Venemo | this stuff just instantiates a LauncherAction and triggers it | 08:48 |
| special | unrelated: commandText.replace(QRegExp("%k"), filePath()); is that really using QRegExp for a static string replacement. | 08:48 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6690 Rejected promotion request | 08:48 |
| Sage | Venemo: it might be something else that causes the slownes | 08:48 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6692 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6692 | 08:48 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6691 Rejected promotion request | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | or the fact that libmtf simply isn't in memory.. | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:48 |
| Xruxa | Venemo: I guess if boosted WG is still as fast, then the launching code is not the culprit | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | or theme not calculated | 08:49 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, MTF is definitely in memory (remember MCompositor and sysui is running) | 08:50 |
| Venemo | maybe qt-components isn't in memory? | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: yes, but is the mthemedaemon warm? | 08:50 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, no clue. don't even have a Nemo device with me right now | 08:50 |
| Venemo | do you? | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | yess, but it doesn't boot atm | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | i think i broke it with moslo | 08:51 |
| Venemo | reflash?! | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | i did. | 08:51 |
| Venemo | meh | 08:51 |
| Venemo | btw, this is very funny, because we are actually sitting next to each other. | 08:51 |
| Venemo | (just sayin to the others) | 08:51 |
| Sage | ;) | 08:52 |
| Xruxa | thanks for keeping it on IRC too then ;) | 08:52 |
| Venemo | :P | 08:52 |
| Venemo | we're listening to a presenation (on a conference) | 08:52 |
| Venemo | so we couldn't talk loudly anyway | 08:52 |
| tadzik | hehe. Been there, done that :) What conference btw? | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | smartdevcon.eu | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | in katowice | 08:53 |
| Venemo | that. | 08:53 |
| tadzik | ha, that's close | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | be careful about taking trains here. the train driver last night said "nastepna stacjia: katowice"... stopped at a station a bit outside katowice | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | which wasn't katowice.. | 08:53 |
| Sage | Venemo: if there is something I could do with nemo image that would help debug let me know | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | i got into the train quite quickly | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:54 |
| Venemo | Sage, I haven't got a clue. | 08:54 |
| Sage | ok | 08:54 |
| Venemo | Sage, I'll make the animation snappier :) | 08:54 |
| Venemo | but the code itself should run equally as fast | 08:55 |
| Sage | Venemo: I'm mainly worried that making animation snappier will consume itself more cpu and delay the startup | 08:55 |
| Venemo | Sage, it's hw-accelerated | 08:55 |
| special | the startup animation uses significant CPU. | 08:55 |
| Venemo | really? | 08:55 |
| special | I've watched it in top | 08:56 |
| Venemo | hm | 08:56 |
| faenil | good morning guys! :) I'm back | 08:56 |
| Venemo | so why the f*** do we have hw accel if it's not working? | 08:56 |
| special | 35% for ~2 seconds | 08:56 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't mean it takes 0% cpu to render things | 08:56 |
| special | in that particular instance | 08:56 |
| Stskeeps | even with hw accel | 08:56 |
| special | also, rendering is not the only thing that needs to happen in an animation. | 08:56 |
| Xruxa | hmmmm, QmlComponentGallery launches faster from command line than from Homescreet, but it looks like just 0.5 second faster, still over 3 seconds | 08:57 |
| Venemo | sure. | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: i think this was an issue in old mtf home too, the animation was actually taking 100% at startup | 08:57 |
| tadzik | Stskeeps: oh, I used to be training to katowice and back quite a lot. Only once I went with a train which wasn't InterCity :) | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: should we check out after this talk? | 08:57 |
| Venemo | we should! | 08:57 |
| Xruxa | Still, over 3 seconds launch time from command line is too much IMHO, animation not considered | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | Xruxa: agreed.. grab strace? | 08:58 |
| Venemo | whatever | 08:58 |
| Venemo | irc-chatter launches equally as slow on harmattan | 08:58 |
| Venemo | the difference is that there's a spash screen there | 08:58 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, special, so, 35% is better than 100% | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: make some statistics of how many frames get made? | 08:59 |
| Venemo | but I agree on that this needs some debugging | 08:59 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, we could try starting it with QML_SHOW_FRAMERATE | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: or swaplogger | 09:01 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, or both? :P | 09:01 |
| Xruxa | is device shutdown really really slow now only for me? | 09:02 |
| Venemo | Xruxa, it actually doesn't shut down for me at all | 09:02 |
| tukem | btw what is the plan with MTF replacement. Some packages have comments about using mlite instead | 09:02 |
| Venemo | tukem, for UI, the replacement is QML (qt-components for example) | 09:03 |
| Venemo | tukem, for other stuff, mlite | 09:03 |
| Venemo | atm I can't recall where libcontentaction's source is - I'm not sure what it's actually doing, but someone could take a look at that too | 09:05 |
| * Xruxa trying poweroff from ssh shell in desperation | 09:05 | |
| Xruxa | works! | 09:05 |
| tukem | what about common settings like Locale. I see settings-ui saves it to gconf | 09:05 |
| Venemo | not sure what the "official" policy is | 09:06 |
| Venemo | but I personally prefer QSettings | 09:06 |
| Xruxa | not sure QSettings are cross-toolkit | 09:07 |
| Venemo | they may not be | 09:09 |
| Xruxa | what package could contain strace? | 09:09 |
| tukem | Reading Qt doc I guess it saves to .INI files | 09:09 |
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| Xruxa | should locale and such be actually Mer's domain, not Nemo's? Bit of borderline for me ... IIRC D-Bus needs the locale too, etc. | 09:10 |
| Venemo | it does, but I'm not entirely sure qsettings is good enough | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | Xruxa: l10n/ui are kinda on nemo side | 09:11 |
| Venemo | we might want to consider some other stuff | 09:11 |
| Xruxa | Stskeeps: just blast from the past where D-Bus folks told us off saying they need to restart D-Bus for the new locale when we change it | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | Xruxa: heh :) | 09:12 |
| Xruxa | wondering what the use case was | 09:12 |
| tukem | I also noticed that there is not yet clear way to set themes in QML, or what | 09:13 |
| Venemo | hm? | 09:14 |
| Xruxa | tukem: IIRC there is no way | 09:14 |
| Venemo | tukem, qt-components uses the meegotouch theme afaik | 09:14 |
| Xruxa | last time I chacked (year ago) the path was kinda hardcoded | 09:14 |
| w00t | tukem: in the short term, most settings belong in gconf, in the longer term, there should be some evaluation of gsettings | 09:14 |
| Venemo | w00t, dconf? | 09:14 |
| w00t | gsettings uses dconf as a backend | 09:14 |
| Venemo | I know | 09:15 |
| Venemo | I hear dconf is quite good | 09:15 |
| Sage | alterego: apparently you found a bug from zypper with your voicecall packaging ;) | 09:15 |
| w00t | I'd like to know what gsettings offers above dconf, but yes, that's teh idea | 09:15 |
| w00t | the* | 09:15 |
| Venemo | w00t, but I'm not very keen on adding another GWhatever to Nemo | 09:15 |
| Venemo | w00t, what do you think about the launch time issue? | 09:15 |
| w00t | Venemo: good technology is the key, not where it comes from | 09:15 |
| w00t | I do think that animations are probably related | 09:16 |
| special | as long as we have a good Qt(/QML?) api for it | 09:16 |
| w00t | but that's a gut instinct | 09:16 |
| w00t | I haven't done any timings on it | 09:16 |
| faenil | special, +1 | 09:16 |
| w00t | special: kinda goes without saying ;) | 09:16 |
| Xruxa | which package has strace? | 09:17 |
| w00t | Xruxa: 'strace' | 09:17 |
| Venemo | so, we could just make our own API on top of dconf, without going through gsettings | 09:17 |
| Venemo | which would still remain compatible with gsettings | 09:17 |
| w00t | Venemo: maybe, but like I say, I want to know what gsettings offers above dconf first | 09:17 |
| Xruxa | w00t: zypper does now find :( | 09:17 |
| w00t | Xruxa: you need Mer:Tools repo | 09:17 |
| w00t | or Mer:Tools:Testing? I forget which | 09:17 |
| Venemo | ttyl | 09:19 |
| alterego | Sage: \o/ | 09:21 |
| tukem | Since there is no clear way for theming in QML we would need some guidelines for UI creation | 09:24 |
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| Xruxa | tukem: like "use QtCompoents" :) | 09:24 |
| w00t | pretty much :) | 09:25 |
| Xruxa | BTW, is it just me or is the Q To Do app making its own view menu instead of using the one in component? | 09:25 |
| tukem | Ok, good if it has some sane default for e.g button size | 09:25 |
| Xruxa | tukem: it has | 09:25 |
| w00t | Xruxa: there's certainly something a bit funky going on there | 09:27 |
| Xruxa | but you are right, we should have basic guideline on sizes and margins, for times when one wants to make own UI components in QML | 09:27 |
| w00t | UiConstants.DefaultMargin :-) | 09:28 |
| Xruxa | and then again, you look at QtComponents, and then have like at least 3 different sizes for a button (normal, dialog, sheet) | 09:29 |
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| * Xruxa wondering - do we still need mdecorator now that we have swipe gestures? | 09:34 | |
| Stskeeps | Xruxa: probably not.. alterego was looking at replacing it with a qml decorator at some point i think | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | which might be useful | 09:35 |
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| Xruxa | what would be the use case? We do not need to force home/close buttons on 3rd party apps. Not even on dead apps, no? | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | i think only part may be the fullscreening and perhaps x window attributes or something.. | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | but you're right | 09:37 |
| Venemo | hey again | 09:39 |
| faenil | hey | 09:39 |
| Venemo | what did I miss? | 09:39 |
| Venemo | Xruxa, noone is speaking about home and close buttons | 09:40 |
| Venemo | Xruxa, the decorator decorates windows with a status bar and a toolbar | 09:40 |
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| Xruxa | Venemo: IC. Is that necessary for 3rd party apps? | 09:41 |
| Venemo | Xruxa, this only happens for legacy apps | 09:41 |
| Xruxa | Just thinking we could as well not have it and save time | 09:41 |
| Venemo | yeah, that could be possible | 09:41 |
| Venemo | Xruxa, have a look at https://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-compositor/blobs/master/src/mcompositewindow.cpp#line660 | 09:43 |
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| Venemo | w00t, one idea: let's write the launch animation as a shader | 09:46 |
| w00t | I'd be interested to see how it looks if you don't force native graphicssystem | 09:47 |
| Venemo | w00t, it uses a QGLWidget viewport so graphics system shouldn't matter | 09:49 |
| Venemo | but anyway | 09:49 |
| Venemo | if you're sayin that it works with the meego graphics system, I'll just refactor that part | 09:49 |
| w00t | QGLWidget viewport is not as efficient as not setting graphicssystem (and thus ending up with meego graphicssystem), as you end up with two native windows (one for the viewport, one for the view) | 09:50 |
| w00t | there may be other issues about acceleration too | 09:50 |
| special | QGLWidget also uses a slightly different method to redraw windows compared to a gl graphicssystem | 09:51 |
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| Venemo | w00t, okay | 09:53 |
| Venemo | w00t, I don't have a Nemo device with me so can't test. but if you're saying the right way of doing it is to remove the gl widget, then I say OK | 09:53 |
| faenil | special, I finally can continue working on the gallery, any update on your side? | 09:54 |
| w00t | I don't know for sure, but I really think so | 09:54 |
| Venemo | w00t, ok, let's change it for the next release | 09:55 |
| Venemo | w00t, then we'll see user feedback | 09:55 |
| w00t | I'll test a bit tonight | 09:56 |
| Venemo | :) | 09:57 |
| Venemo | I'm reading about dconf now | 10:00 |
| special | faenil: I've been working on other things. I have a few little tweaks I'm waiting to merge, and the qt-mobility patch. | 10:02 |
| faenil | special, good :) can you please let me know more about the tweaks? (maybe in pm) so that I know what's comign in :) | 10:03 |
| special | nothing of any interest | 10:04 |
| special | that I recall, anyway | 10:04 |
| faenil | special, ok ;) | 10:04 |
| M4rtinK | wow, the i586 builders are really brutally fast compared to any arm ones :D | 10:05 |
| special | resource framework, text, not sure what else | 10:05 |
| faenil | ok | 10:06 |
| Venemo | w00t, seems that gsettings is a little but higher level and has swappable backends. dconf is just one of those backends. | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | M4rtinK: compared to harmattan or mer armel | 10:06 |
| Venemo | w00t, also, Mer already contains glib, so we could just use the gsettings api | 10:07 |
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| M4rtinK | BTW, I'm trying to get PySide working on Nemo (and PyGTK, for the fun of it :) ) | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | pygtk.. not so much ;p | 10:09 |
| faenil | lol | 10:09 |
| M4rtinK | I'm probably already done with PySide - the packages from Elleos repository compiled just fine | 10:09 |
| M4rtinK | now I need to test it :) | 10:09 |
| Venemo | w00t, perhaps we could create a qt wrapper for dconf directly to avoid going through gsettings, or we could also just implement a Qt wrapper on top of gsettings and take advantage of the pluggable architecture of gsettings | 10:09 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, its just that there are some old RMP that might just compile :) | 10:10 |
| Venemo | what's an RMP? | 10:11 |
| M4rtinK | sorry, RPM :) | 10:11 |
| Venemo | ah, ok | 10:11 |
| w00t | Venemo: ok, thanks for the info, guess we'll see | 10:11 |
| w00t | I plan to do some benchmarking before making any clear decision there too :) | 10:11 |
| lpotter | sysinfo in mobility has a lite wrapper for gconf | 10:12 |
| Venemo | w00t, this: http://developer.gnome.org/gio/2.28/GSettings.html | 10:12 |
| Venemo | says: Reading settings with GSettings is typically extremely fast: on approximately the same order of magnitude (but slower than) a GHashTable lookup. | 10:12 |
| Venemo | lpotter, gconf != gsettings | 10:12 |
| faenil | wow | 10:12 |
| faenil | gconf is the older alternative to dconf | 10:13 |
| w00t | lpotter: gconf got supersceded by gsettings, much faster, etc | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | and how does dconf fit into gettings? | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:13 |
| w00t | dconf is a backend for gsettings | 10:13 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, it's one possible backend of choice | 10:13 |
| faenil | gsettins has it as backend | 10:13 |
| w00t | gsettings may have other backends | 10:13 |
| faenil | yes | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. | 10:13 |
| lpotter | harmattan uses gconf | 10:15 |
| Venemo | w00t, another interesting reading: https://live.gnome.org/dconf#Design | 10:15 |
| Venemo | lpotter, yeah | 10:15 |
| w00t | yes, seen that | 10:15 |
| Venemo | lpotter, seems they didn't have time (or they didn't care) about throwing out those obsolete dependencies | 10:15 |
| w00t | that's why I like it :) | 10:15 |
| lpotter | whatever works... | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: dconf wasn't really too developed at the time | 10:16 |
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| Stskeeps | i recall it being a topic of discussion in meego.com | 10:16 |
| w00t | yep | 10:17 |
| Venemo | dconf was in F15 already, it was already stable when harmattan appeared | 10:17 |
| Stskeeps | well | 10:18 |
| w00t | plus, at some point, you need to ship a product - and if you keep chasing every piece of obsoletion you can, you'll keep destabilising, and you won't ship | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | as you might have known, harmattan was a bit, erm.. | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | delayed | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | :cough: | 10:18 |
| Venemo | hehe | 10:18 |
| Venemo | :P | 10:18 |
| Venemo | anyway. | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | so there was really no other choice for them | 10:18 |
| * lpotter thinks the word obsolete is overused | 10:18 | |
| Venemo | there aren't that many things in Mer core that depend on gconf, but IIRC there are lots of pieces in the MTF stack that depend on it | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, in MTF for sure.. | 10:19 |
| Venemo | yup | 10:21 |
| Venemo | but it seems that even the Gnome folks are not done with the migration yet. | 10:21 |
| Venemo | https://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/GSettingsMigration | 10:21 |
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| Venemo | hey jukkaeklund :) | 10:34 |
| faenil | anyone who's attending the hackday on saturday here? | 10:35 |
| jukkaeklund | faenil, replied on #mer | 10:35 |
| jukkaeklund | hi Venemo! | 10:35 |
| faenil | jukkaeklund, ;) | 10:36 |
| yunta | faenil: me | 10:36 |
| faenil | yunta, :) | 10:36 |
| Venemo | jukkaeklund, what's up with you nowadays? | 10:38 |
| jukkaeklund | same old same old | 10:38 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6702 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6702 | 10:39 |
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| alterego | special: have you seen this: http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-ux/meego-app-im | 10:49 |
| special | alterego: no, I had not | 10:51 |
| special | not very applicable, though | 10:52 |
| special | due to commhistory mostly | 10:53 |
| Sage | rozhkov, w00t: about the events feed isn't that something that should be actually in MW project as also apps build against it? | 10:54 |
| Venemo | alterego, wat's dat? | 10:55 |
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| Venemo | Sage, MW=? | 10:56 |
| Sage | middleware | 10:56 |
| Venemo | ah | 10:56 |
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| Venemo | yeah it sounds like it | 10:56 |
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| rozhkov | Sage: yes, makes sense. but also it links to libthumbnailer which is in CE:UX:MTF | 11:00 |
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| alterego | special: so you're not using telepathy directly to send messages? | 11:03 |
| special | alterego: to send, yes | 11:05 |
| special | I did make a deliberate choice to not use the 'telepathyqml' thing. | 11:05 |
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| Sage | rozhkov: well, I can move that to MW as well if we use it | 11:07 |
| rozhkov | Sage: makes sense as well :) though most probably the next version of eventfeed won't use libthumbnail | 11:09 |
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| w00t | so perhaps let's postpone moving it? | 11:23 |
| Sage | ah, ok postponing the move then | 11:26 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6704 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6704 | 11:27 |
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| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6704 Accepted promotion request | 11:33 |
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| faenil | o/ | 12:00 |
| matrixx_ | o/ | 12:02 |
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| faenil | hey matrixx :) long time no talk, how's life | 12:03 |
| matrixx | I've been rather busy decorating my new house :) | 12:03 |
| matrixx | doing very little coding stuff except at work | 12:03 |
| matrixx | faenil: how's yours? | 12:04 |
| faenil | matrixx, fine ;) flying to Tampere tomorrow, for Jolla's hackday :D I'm excited :) | 12:04 |
| matrixx | faenil: cool, if I'm not in a flu anymore by saturday, we'll see you there :) | 12:04 |
| faenil | \o/ | 12:05 |
| matrixx | but today off from work, my throat is extremely sore :( | 12:05 |
| faenil | ouch :/ | 12:05 |
| faenil | hope you get better soon! | 12:05 |
| matrixx | let's see :) | 12:05 |
| iekku | matrixx, o// | 12:05 |
| * anYc recommends water with salt | 12:05 | |
| * iekku recommends blackcurrantjuice with honey | 12:06 | |
| matrixx | anYc: that's a new one :) | 12:06 |
| anYc | but not to drink, gargling | 12:07 |
| anYc | always helped me so far :) | 12:07 |
| matrixx | sounds extreme, but worth to try if nothing else helps | 12:07 |
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| matrixx | though blackcurrantjuice with honey sounds really good :) | 12:08 |
| anYc | afterwards, to get rid of the the salty taste ;) | 12:10 |
| anYc | As I'm planning to start learning QML with Python, is it possible to start such an app on Maemo and Nemo or are the QT/PyQt/PySide versions to different? | 12:12 |
| anYc | too | 12:14 |
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| M4rtinK | anYc: I've just finished building Elleos PySide (Python Qt & QML bindings) in my repository a few minutes ago :) | 12:21 |
| M4rtinK | see: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3AMartinK%3Anemo for packages :) | 12:21 |
| M4rtinK | hevent tested them yet, though :) | 12:21 |
| M4rtinK | *haven't | 12:22 |
| Elleo | M4rtinK: they work for me ;) the tizmee app in my repository makes use of them successfully | 12:23 |
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| anYc | M4rtinK: thx, but currently I'm already challenged by getting a HelloWorld to work, I will try building stuff later :) | 12:28 |
| M4rtinK | Elleo: good to hear that! :) btw, tizmee is a PySide application ? | 12:28 |
| Venemo | nemo sucks on an x86 tablet | 12:29 |
| Venemo | I've just tried it | 12:29 |
| Venemo | there is just no better way of saying it | 12:29 |
| Venemo | nothing works | 12:29 |
| Venemo | literally | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: VKB? | 12:29 |
| Elleo | M4rtinK: nah, its predominately C++ but the application launcher is in python | 12:29 |
| Venemo | vkb, hw acceleration, swipe plugin | 12:29 |
| Venemo | etc | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: hw acceleration not working doesn't sound right | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | swipe works for me | 12:29 |
| Venemo | the meego graphics system doesn't work either | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | VKB is an error, agreed | 12:29 |
| M4rtinK | anYc, ok :) but you should be convered once you want to run your Python & Qt apps on Nemo | 12:29 |
| Venemo | it doesn't sound right in my opinion either | 12:31 |
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| M4rtinK | Elleo: interesting ! I'll probably check out your packaging when I start packaging my stuff (modRana QML & Mieru) | 12:31 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: meego graphicssystem isn't enabled on x86 by default, so everything feels a lot slower | 12:32 |
| M4rtinK | btw, what needs to be done to include the PySide packages in the default Nemo repos/image ? :) | 12:32 |
| Elleo | M4rtinK: the pyside things are mostly adapted from opensuse's upstream packages | 12:33 |
| Elleo | M4rtinK: this basically needs to be resolved: http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00624.html | 12:33 |
| Venemo | w00t, how can I enable it? | 12:33 |
| w00t | set QT_DEFAULT_RUNTIME_SYSTEM=meego somewhere | 12:34 |
| w00t | and make sure QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM is set to runtime | 12:34 |
| w00t | I forget where these need to be set | 12:34 |
| w00t | some device-specific configurations | 12:34 |
| w00t | and YMMV, it's not enabled because I can't guarentee it will work everywhere | 12:35 |
| Venemo | I tried to start the app with --graphicssystem meego but it didn't help | 12:35 |
| w00t | drop one - | 12:35 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps, Elleo: so the only remaining issue is actually somebody taking the PySide packages and pushing them to the main repo ? :) | 12:35 |
| Venemo | ouch | 12:36 |
| Elleo | M4rtinK: and removing the old shiboken package if that hasn't been done already | 12:36 |
| Elleo | M4rtinK: yeah, the broken shiboken package is still in CE:Apps | 12:37 |
| Venemo | ok | 12:37 |
| Venemo | it doesn't work | 12:37 |
| M4rtinK | Elleo: who is responsible for CE:Apps ? | 12:38 |
| Elleo | M4rtinK: I think its Sage, but I'm not certain | 12:39 |
| Elleo | I'm only peripherally involved in any Nemo stuff at the moment really | 12:39 |
| M4rtinK | I'd like to finally port my apps to Nemo, and they need PySide to run | 12:40 |
| M4rtinK | and I'm available for any testing, etc. thats needed to get PySide in :) | 12:40 |
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| Sage | M4rtinK: hi | 12:42 |
| Sage | M4rtinK: yes you can point me on those things :) | 12:42 |
| M4rtinK | ok :) | 12:42 |
| M4rtinK | Sage: looks like this package needs to be removed: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=shiboken&project=CE%3AApps | 12:44 |
| M4rtinK | Sage: and these two packages added to CE:ME:Share https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=python-pyside-shiboken&project=home%3Aelleo https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=python-pyside&project=home%3Aelleo | 12:45 |
| Sage | M4rtinK: ok, do creq for all of the needed stuff and I'll review. | 12:46 |
| Sage | M4rtinK: osc help creq | 12:46 |
| M4rtinK | Sage: ok :) | 12:46 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6707 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6707 | 12:50 |
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| Venemo | so | 12:59 |
| Venemo | meego graphics system doesn't work on the wetab | 12:59 |
| Venemo | but it should | 12:59 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6707 Accepted promotion request | 13:00 |
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| Sage | Venemo: it doesn't work on any other than n900/n950 properly atm. iirc. | 13:00 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6709 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6709 | 13:02 |
| Venemo | Sage, but a year ago it worked on my ideapad | 13:02 |
| Venemo | what happened since then? | 13:02 |
| M4rtinK | Sage: done - 6707 is for deleting the Shiboken old package, 6709 is for adding Elleos new Pyside packages | 13:02 |
| M4rtinK | oh, looks like it's already in :) | 13:03 |
| Venemo | this is on Pycage's WeTab: http://pastebin.com/E184Dfpc | 13:03 |
| M4rtinK | nice :) | 13:03 |
| Venemo | nice? | 13:03 |
| Venemo | wat? | 13:03 |
| Venemo | no, it's not nice at all | 13:03 |
| Venemo | srsly | 13:03 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: i think he's talking about pyside | 13:03 |
| Venemo | QEglContext::createContext(): Unable to create EGL context: "Success (0x3000)" | 13:03 |
| M4rtinK | Venemo: that the PySide request was accepted | 13:04 |
| Venemo | M4rtinK, ok. | 13:04 |
| M4rtinK | np :) | 13:04 |
| Venemo | what does the error message mean? | 13:04 |
| Venemo | so the error code was Success but it still thinks it didn't work? | 13:04 |
| Venemo | or what? | 13:04 |
| Venemo | it doesn't make any sense to me | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: some context please | 13:07 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, http://pastebin.com/E184Dfpc | 13:07 |
| Elleo | M4rtinK: that's just bossbot's automated review that's passed; it still has to be accepted by a human before it's really accepted | 13:08 |
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| Stskeeps | Venemo: that looks like an ill image | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: is it stock nemo image? | 13:09 |
| * Mirv is a happy PR1.3 + Nemo dual-booter | 13:09 | |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: also, exact version of image? | 13:09 |
| Sage | M4rtinK: coupld of things. Remove %changelog from the .spec file. Remove %clean as well. And BuildRoot line. Otherwise look good to go. | 13:11 |
| M4rtinK | Sage: I've already already cloned the PySide packages to my repository - so I'll do the changes, recompile and the submit a new request from it | 13:14 |
| Sage | w00t: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=439 you have probably comments on this (cc: stskeeps) | 13:16 |
| Merbot | Bug 439: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, MeeGo graphics system doesn't work on WeTab | 13:16 |
| w00t | sounds like fun | 13:16 |
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| Sage | didn't that meego graphics system require some egl extensions? | 13:18 |
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| Venemo | Stskeeps, yep | 13:47 |
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| alterego | Sage: can you package telepathy farstream? :) | 14:12 |
| Sage | alterego: uh... sure, you want it giftwrapped? | 14:15 |
| alterego | yes please :) | 14:15 |
| * Sage starts writing a card. | 14:15 | |
| alterego | Sage: don't worry about it, I'm going to look in to it ;) | 14:15 |
| Sage | alterego: you need to change telepathy-qt a bit and obsolete farsight and remove farsight as well. | 14:17 |
| alterego | Yeah | 14:17 |
| alterego | Sage: what about gtkdocize? :) | 14:21 |
| alterego | Do we have it? | 14:21 |
| Sage | we don't | 14:26 |
| alterego | oh well. | 14:26 |
| alterego | Maybe we don't need it .. | 14:27 |
| Sage | alterego: first when starting new package. Assume that all the dependencies that are there are wrong and add one by when when you see that you need them. :) | 14:27 |
| khertan | Hi all | 14:28 |
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| khertan | little question, does the last i586 is functionnal ? did i ll got same result than on an n900 ? | 14:29 |
| khertan | s/i586/i586 image | 14:29 |
| khertan | i ask, because term and fingerterm diplay only a black screen on the vm | 14:30 |
| cos^ | i'm just installing latest i586 on an exopc | 14:30 |
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| Sage | khertan: there is known bug about that | 14:30 |
| alterego | Urgh, python gst -_- | 14:30 |
| khertan | Sage, this is just for i586 or also armel7 ? | 14:30 |
| khertan | alterego, ? | 14:31 |
| alterego | Just tracking all these dependencies -_- | 14:31 |
| khertan | oh .. :) | 14:31 |
| alterego | Oh and pygobject is too old? | 14:31 |
| khertan | oh the nice ovi logo on wallpaper settings :) | 14:32 |
| w00t | khertan: black screen on i586 is known | 14:32 |
| khertan | w00t, thx | 14:32 |
| khertan | let go to install on n900 so :) | 14:32 |
| w00t | pretty sure that's only broken in a VM though | 14:32 |
| alterego | Well, at least that's optional | 14:33 |
| w00t | khertan: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347 / https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298 | 14:33 |
| Merbot | Bug 347: critical, High, ---, not-taken, NEW, Screen is black when VKB is open in VirtualBox | 14:33 |
| Merbot | Bug 298: critical, High, ---, not-taken, NEW, meego-terminal is black under virtualbox, making installing hard | 14:33 |
| * w00t heads out for a bit | 14:34 | |
| Sage | khertan: only i586 | 14:34 |
| khertan | Sage, thx | 14:35 |
| khertan | oh the problem is the vkb | 14:36 |
| khertan | closing it is enought | 14:36 |
| khertan | thx | 14:36 |
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| alterego | Hate all this packaging balls, it's bad enough doing it for my own packages :) | 14:54 |
| Venemo | what are you packaging now? | 14:55 |
| alterego | farstream & telepathy-farstream | 14:55 |
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| Venemo | hm | 14:57 |
| alterego | Well, that's farsight done .. | 14:58 |
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| alterego | erm, farstream .. | 14:58 |
| alterego | Still getting the bloody names wrong ;) | 14:58 |
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| alterego | Sage: how quick do you think zypper will be fixed? | 15:19 |
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| alterego | telepathy-farstream done :) | 15:27 |
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| * alterego updates telepathy-qt4 .. | 16:00 | |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6713 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6713 | 16:04 |
| M4rtinK | Sage: updated PySide packages submitted :) | 16:04 |
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| Sage | alterego: not sure, might take a while if I need to update boost as well | 16:16 |
| Sage | alterego: could you push new version with existing packaging? and remove the ~git or +git or what ever from the version and instead make proper tag and version. I have bad feeling that it might be related to that version thingy as usually those have worked fine. | 16:17 |
| alterego | Sage: the original I pushed was plain 0.2.0 | 16:19 |
| alterego | Currently I've got 0.2.1 I believe | 16:19 |
| Sage | alterego: the voicecall we have is 0.1.4~gitsomething atm. | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: what ~ algorithm does zypper use? | 16:19 |
| alterego | Oh, you want me to push an old "voicecall" package with a complete version? | 16:19 |
| Sage | alterego: no. I mean that push the new code in single voicecall package for now | 16:20 |
| * alterego shudders. | 16:20 | |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: haven't checked and I have no idea if that is even the problem | 16:20 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6709 Rejected promotion request | 16:37 |
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| M4rtinK | is there a guide/example somewhere how to do cross instance obs copypac ? | 16:52 |
| M4rtinK | say from the OpenSuse OBS | 16:52 |
| M4rtinK | or some other way of copying packages from one OBS instance to another ? | 16:53 |
| Sage | osc copypac projectx package projecty | 16:58 |
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| Sage | ah... osc copypac -t target-obs-api sourceprject sourcepkg destpkg | 16:58 |
| Sage | destprj* | 16:59 |
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| M4rtinK | and where does the source api come from ? from .oscrc or is there another way how to specify it ? | 17:02 |
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| Sage | M4rtinK: it is just url like https://api.pub.meego.com/ | 17:08 |
| Sage | osc -A source_api copypac -t destination_api source_prj source_pkg destination_prj | 17:09 |
| Sage | osc help copypac | 17:09 |
| M4rtinK | oh, you can use -A like this | 17:10 |
| Sage | yes | 17:12 |
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| M4rtinK | hmm, there is even described how to have two API aliases: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Osc_Setup | 17:15 |
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| Stskeeps | ar/g 14 | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | /g 14 | 17:29 |
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| Sage | ;) | 17:36 |
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| khertan | hum look like there is still the same bugs than 2 years ago, when trying setting a wifi password if failed you can't edit it | 17:49 |
| iekku | khertan, please check if there's a bug for that in bz | 17:49 |
| iekku | root cause might be different now.. | 17:50 |
| Sage | khertan: the wifi applet was completely rewritten so would be nice coincidence :) | 17:50 |
| khertan | hihi | 17:50 |
| Sage | "nice" | 17:50 |
| khertan | i ll look in bug db | 17:50 |
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| M4rtinK | Sage: I've added inter-instance copypac description & examples to the Obs setup wiki page (https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Osc_Setup) | 17:52 |
| khertan | https://bugs.nemomobile.org <<< where is the register account button ? | 17:52 |
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| iekku | khertan, uses same account than mer bugzilla | 17:53 |
| iekku | and mer in general, i think | 17:53 |
| khertan | ah ... will create account on mer so :) | 17:55 |
| khertan | thx | 17:55 |
| iekku | i think mer uses meego account, but it needs activation | 17:56 |
| iekku | need to check | 17:56 |
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| iekku | khertan, yes, you need to have meego-account and activate it to mer | 17:59 |
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| iekku | but i really can't find any info for that from wiki | 18:02 |
| iekku | sounds like task to me | 18:02 |
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| khertan | iekku, and at first login it s say no account exists | 18:03 |
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| khertan | works seconds time | 18:03 |
| khertan | probably not synced when i tryed first time | 18:03 |
| iekku | :nod: | 18:04 |
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| khertan | gnié ? pyside isn't packaged for mer and nemo ? | 18:16 |
| M4rtinK | khertan: should be since a few hours ago | 18:18 |
| M4rtinK | khertan: for Nemo (CE:MW:Shared) | 18:18 |
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| crevetor_ | Am I the only one not able to start ohmd on a freshly updated nemo image (N950) ? | 18:25 |
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| alterego | Wow, telepathy-qt takes aaaages to compile O_o | 18:32 |
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| timoph | dunno. my installation went completely south when upgrading | 18:32 |
| timoph | rpm db broke | 18:32 |
| timoph | can't even rebuild it | 18:33 |
| timoph | time for a fresh install | 18:33 |
| w00t | timoph: didn't that happen to iekku too? | 18:33 |
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| timoph | dunno | 18:34 |
| iekku | hmmm, no? | 18:34 |
| w00t | hmmm | 18:34 |
| iekku | i just couldn't use zypper at all | 18:34 |
| w00t | I thought I remembered you mentioning a bug where the solution was rebuilding the rpm db | 18:34 |
| w00t | (because it broke) | 18:34 |
| khertan | M4rtinK, no packages found | 18:34 |
| khertan | and repo refreshed | 18:34 |
| iekku | w00t, can't be me :D | 18:35 |
| timoph | that usually helps but for me even that failed | 18:35 |
| timoph | forgot the device to work so can't check the error now | 18:35 |
| w00t | khertan: the request for pyside is not yet accepted | 18:37 |
| w00t | keep an eye on https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/6713 | 18:37 |
| w00t | oh, hmm | 18:37 |
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| w00t | Sage: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/6713 is another broken request | 18:37 |
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| khertan | w00t, thx | 18:37 |
| * timoph kicks the-boss | 18:37 | |
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| Sage | timoph: not so hard :D | 19:14 |
| Sage | phaeron, lbt: there is probably nice mess in the obs as I've been accepting requests manually because boss just doesn't do anything | 19:15 |
| alterego | He seems to be having seizures today. | 19:15 |
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| Sage | alterego: tested dialer on n900 lately? | 19:17 |
| Sage | alterego: on n950 seems fine but on n900 doesn't seems to work. | 19:17 |
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| alterego | Sage: I haven't it's on my list of things todo, maybe I'll get to it this weekend. | 19:20 |
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| Sage | ofono lists modem and pin query works as well | 19:21 |
| alterego | Sage: I've modified telepathy-qt4 package, I need to increment release, did you say something is broken with regards to that? | 19:21 |
| Sage | alterego: release increments are done atm. automaticaly by obs so no need to touch Release: atm. :/ | 19:21 |
| Sage | but also you can't do Requires: version-release atm. | 19:21 |
| alterego | Hmm, okay. | 19:22 |
| alterego | What do I put in .changes then? | 19:22 |
| Sage | just new entry with the same version than previously | 19:22 |
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| alterego | okay | 19:23 |
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| alterego | It's okay to SR to CE:MW:Shared? | 19:23 |
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| Sage | yes I don't care about the Project: stuff atm. so much as it is a mess already | 19:25 |
| alterego | Well, hopefully it'll start building soon O_O | 19:26 |
| alterego | There we go | 19:26 |
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| alterego | Can some one ban the-boss whilst he's being a pleb? | 19:27 |
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| lbt | alterego: hmm | 19:28 |
| lbt | hadn't noticed | 19:28 |
| lbt | please don't ban it | 19:28 |
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| lbt | alterego: should be fixed | 19:31 |
| lbt | the VM had no loopback device.... | 19:31 |
| lbt | which made udev go mad | 19:32 |
| lbt | which used lots of mem | 19:32 |
| lbt | which OOMed supybot | 19:32 |
| lbt | obvious really :/ | 19:32 |
| Sage | lbt: any change you could check the boss and why it doesn't do anything atm.? | 19:32 |
| lbt | I need to know what you expect - it's actually active in #meego-boss so it is doing some stuff | 19:33 |
| lbt | [06/09/2012 20:33] <the-boss> process 20120906-bogohemeho SR#6720 Waiting for Project:MTF:MW to build (https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=Project:MTF:MW) | 19:33 |
| lbt | the bot being dead may have lost some messages | 19:34 |
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| Sage | lbt: first thing is that cobs is very slow again. :/ | 19:36 |
| lbt | looks pretty busy | 19:37 |
| Sage | and at least SR6716 and SR6720 doesn't seem to go forward in review | 19:37 |
| Sage | feature request for new mer cobs. If certain home project has not received any new packages or changes in 30 days disable the whole project | 19:39 |
| w00t | Sage: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/6713 broken too | 19:41 |
| w00t | oh | 19:41 |
| w00t | you fixed it | 19:41 |
| Sage | manually yes | 19:41 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6720 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6720 | 19:51 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6721 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6721 | 19:58 |
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| M4rtinK | khertan: looks all the PySide packages are now built & available :) | 20:41 |
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| phaeron | Sage: there's a queue of requests to CE:MW:Shared. When you manually push a request tell me so that I can unstick it and prevent this from happening | 23:14 |
| phaeron | Sage: usually the issue is a timeout while doing a request to COBS. When this happens in the locked section of the process it gets messy | 23:16 |
| lbt | hey phaeron - I have the new boss running now | 23:17 |
| phaeron | Sage: kicking them now | 23:18 |
| lbt | updated to 2.3.0 on ruote and viewer with new amqp too | 23:18 |
| phaeron | lbt: with the new packaging ? cool | 23:18 |
| lbt | yep | 23:18 |
| lbt | wrote a README on how to get from bundle to package | 23:18 |
| lbt | fairly simple | 23:19 |
| lbt | and it means you can work on a dev box with boss whilst having git checked out code | 23:19 |
| lbt | so I can hack on multiple gems at once if need be | 23:19 |
| phaeron | nice nice | 23:19 |
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