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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6713 Accepted promotion request | 00:55 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6720 Accepted promotion request | 01:01 |
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| iekku | morning | 04:35 |
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| rantom | Morning | 05:05 |
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| veskuh | Sage have you already worked on your presentation? I'd like to know what you are saying so that I'm not repeating the same things in my part | 05:40 |
| iekku | veskuh, remember to cover a bit of mer also, for core people | 05:40 |
| veskuh | iekku: Yep, I'll make a short of topics, and lets see then if it is suitable | 05:41 |
| iekku | veskuh, :nod: | 05:42 |
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| ars_ | special: any chance you'd have time for reviewing the qmlgallery pull request? | 06:19 |
| special | ars_: github never emailed me about the new commits, so I hadn't noticed, sorry | 06:22 |
| ars_ | oh, np. I made the commits actually just few minutes after the previous comment | 06:24 |
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| Sage | veskuh: mainly showing the current funcitonality and a bit history so you can have the devel story | 06:34 |
| veskuh | Sage: ok | 06:34 |
| veskuh | Sage I assume you'll show genera info such mailing lists, irc, wiki and such | 06:35 |
| veskuh | Sage, iekku, timoph this my initial thinking of contents for my part: http://pastie.org/4678344 | 06:40 |
| iekku | veskuh, sounds good | 06:41 |
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| timoph | veskuh: looks good | 06:42 |
| special | ars_: merged, feel free to close the bug as RESOLVED FIXED | 06:45 |
| Sage | veskuh, timoph: http://piratepad.net/oTE4jaCJqk | 06:49 |
| Sage | just general overview of the current stuff what I was planning | 06:49 |
| veskuh | Sage: yep, looks good. Are you going to demo on n950 or VM ? | 06:50 |
| ars_ | special: great, thanks | 06:50 |
| Sage | veskuh: n950 tv-out works. | 06:51 |
| Sage | also was thinking of showing slides from gallery application :) | 06:52 |
| veskuh | Sage: ah, brilliant | 06:53 |
| Sage | libreoffice can export jpegs just needed to modify the page size to 854x480 so exported images can fill full screen ;) | 06:54 |
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| phaeron | Sage: no more stuck requests for CE:MW:Shared , be sure to tell me if something else gets stuck | 07:12 |
| Sage | phaeron: I accepted all manually with accept lately, more than half of the request get stuck :( | 07:13 |
| phaeron | Sage: only the first one was stuck in the locked section and the rest were waiting | 07:17 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: http://sage.kapsi.fi/Nemo-tmp/0.20120920.0.0.1.NEMO.2012-09-06.2/ | 07:20 |
| Sage | forgot to sent that to you yesterday :) | 07:24 |
| Sage | phaeron: well, to me that is everything is stuck situation ;) | 07:24 |
| phaeron | Sage: I am trying to help, if you don't want it , I'll stop | 07:25 |
| Sage | phaeron: I want to but I don't want to wait 12 hours :/ | 07:28 |
| phaeron | Sage: you don't have to, just use that osc query I gave you and report the stuck ones to me | 07:29 |
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| Stskeeps | this is just my curiousity, but do we know why things get stuck? unstable COBS | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 07:30 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: empty response from cobs raises exception , and random long publishing times | 07:33 |
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| Sage | and those have increased a lot recently :/ | 07:35 |
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| Sage | I'm getting more errors with osc commands also than month ago or so | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | should we stay with SNAFU and work harder on getting the new cobs stable and BOSS on there? | 07:36 |
| Stskeeps | and deal with the delays we have until we have a sane infra | 07:36 |
| phaeron | yes | 07:36 |
| phaeron | imho | 07:36 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6692 Accepted promotion request | 07:41 |
| Sage | phaeron: sry, clicked that one before you said wait ;) | 07:42 |
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| alterego | Sage: looked at https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/6721 yet? :P | 07:53 |
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| Sage | alterego: not yet | 08:01 |
| Sage | alterego: you should obsolete the old stuff and add delete requests for them as well | 08:01 |
| alterego | Sage: should I provide the old stuff if it's not compatible at all? | 08:10 |
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| Sage | alterego: didn't it obsolete the old one generally speaking? | 08:16 |
| alterego | Not sure, | 08:16 |
| alterego | Breaks API | 08:16 |
| alterego | But functionality wise, yes I guess so. | 08:17 |
| alterego | They had to change the name for fear of trademark infringement | 08:17 |
| alterego | I think my point is, the only people that are going to use it will know what they're doing. | 08:18 |
| alterego | And they will want farstream, and not farsight. | 08:18 |
| alterego | And no app can rely on farsight and expect to work with farstream and it will confused anyone developing that expects farsight (but gets farstream). | 08:19 |
| alterego | So I think provides is someone dangerous for system libraries like this. | 08:19 |
| alterego | erm, somewhat, sorry just woken up :P | 08:20 |
| alterego | (first coffee) | 08:20 |
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| alterego | Sage: If a package is obsoleted by a compatible replacement, the obsoleted package | 08:31 |
| alterego | should also be provided in order to not cause unnecessary dependency breakage. | 08:31 |
| alterego | If the obsoleting package is not a compatible replacement for the old one, | 08:32 |
| alterego | leave out the Provides. | 08:32 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6721 Rejected promotion request | 08:43 |
| Sage | alterego: remember to test that zypper up gots the new packages properly | 08:45 |
| Sage | alterego: when old stuff is installed | 08:45 |
| alterego | m'kay | 08:52 |
| alterego | Well, I already have actually :P | 08:52 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6722 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6722 | 09:00 |
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| special | ars_: ping | 09:51 |
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| ars_ | special: yup | 10:11 |
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| w00t | Sage: libqttracker is in CE:MW:Shared? is that an accident? | 10:18 |
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| special | ars_: you already responded :) | 10:20 |
| Sage | w00t: no it was in purpose for now | 10:20 |
| ars_ | special: thought so :) | 10:24 |
| Sage | Stskeeps, lbt: how can I say in obs prj conf that don't install package X at all ? | 10:40 |
| Sage | similar to Prefer: x | 10:40 |
| lbt | Ignore: I think | 10:41 |
| lbt | why ? | 10:43 |
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| lbt | not sure it does what you want - if a package is required then it's installed | 10:43 |
| lbt | you may be able to do a Substitute: for a dummy package that offers a Provides: though ? | 10:44 |
| lbt | there's a page on this stuff | 10:44 |
| lbt | http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_prjconf+ | 10:44 |
| lbt | http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_prjconf even | 10:44 |
| Sage | I'm pondering how to figure out why package gets installed by obs | 10:45 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=xorg-x11-driver-video-dove&project=home%3Asage%3Amer%3Acubox&repository=Mer_Core_panda_armv7hl | 10:45 |
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| Sage | mesa-llvmpipe-libEGL and libgfx-libEGL both provide libEGL so not sure what goes wrong and where | 10:47 |
| M4rtinK | anyone knows how to get around the virtual keyboard bug in VM ? | 10:47 |
| M4rtinK | the black-screen causing one | 10:47 |
| alterego | M4rtinK: you could try uninstalling maliit? | 10:47 |
| Sage | lbt: ah... now I see. one of the middle repos have prefer to mesa | 10:47 |
| lbt | OK | 10:48 |
| Sage | lbt: is there way to unprefer? :) | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | M4rtinK: see mer-general | 10:48 |
| lbt | Prefer back again ? | 10:48 |
| Sage | I have in project x: Prefer: mesa-libEGL, and in my project Prefer: libgfx-libEGL | 10:48 |
| Sage | and now it installs both :) | 10:49 |
| lbt | Prefer: -mesa-libEGL | 10:49 |
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| Sage | ah | 10:54 |
| lbt | Sage: ? | 10:54 |
| lbt | heh | 10:54 |
| Sage | works thx | 10:54 |
| lbt | neat | 10:55 |
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| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: thanks, I'll check it out | 11:10 |
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| w00t | well that's not good | 11:30 |
| w00t | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=442 | 11:31 |
| Merbot | Bug 442: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, ohmd went crazy and killed a bus full of schoolchildren | 11:31 |
| tadzik | wat | 11:31 |
| special | hahaha | 11:32 |
| * w00t has fun with his work | 11:33 | |
| special | oh hey, I can add other people to CC | 11:34 |
| special | useful | 11:34 |
| w00t | .. inb4 special learns how to use bugzilla for the first time | 11:34 |
| special | >:( | 11:34 |
| special | I tried that before and thought it was rejecting anyone but myself. | 11:35 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6723 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6723 | 11:42 |
| phaeron | Sage: that one was stuck in prechecks for a few minutes and I kicked it | 11:42 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6723 Accepted promotion request | 12:42 |
| Sage | special: ping | 12:44 |
| Sage | special: does the qmlgallery have something special compared to qmlcalc, qmlmessages or qmlcontacts in it as those other apps launch fine on my cubox but qmlgallery doesn't (ps. not running full ux just from cmdline) | 12:45 |
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| special | Sage: hard dependency on qtopengl | 12:46 |
| Sage | ok, well that is probably it then | 12:46 |
| Sage | lipstick doesn't run either properly | 12:46 |
| special | lipstick also uses a QGLWidget viewport | 12:47 |
| special | in both cases it may not be strictly necessary | 12:47 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/4679795 | 12:47 |
| Sage | w00t: just fyi, another driver issue with differnt hw :) | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | lipstick may be simply due to lack of texture from pixmap.. | 12:51 |
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| Sage | could be yes | 12:54 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: btw, the link I gave earlier had also the i486 vm image. Would be nice if someone could verify that one | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | it's on my list.. got a busy weekend ahead | 13:08 |
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| Stskeeps | special: can you explain the xvideo change? | 13:56 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: it uses the same fast path camerabin uses, for playback of video, not just the viewfinder | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | was that the source of the insane perf issue? | 13:57 |
| w00t | it's not completely ideal thanks to mobility so we might want to introduce some more configurabiity somehow later, but otherwise it's one contributor to slower video playback | 13:57 |
| w00t | (I don't know the exact speedup it made) | 13:58 |
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| alterego | Are there isolated dbus sessions now? | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 14:36 |
| alterego | I'm getting really weird behavior when I start applications from console, rather than when their started by uxlaunch, etc. | 14:36 |
| alterego | ~they're .. | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | terminal, console or ssh | 14:36 |
| alterego | ssh | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | yes, they're isolated | 14:36 |
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| Stskeeps | only way you can get it is with eat or that other trick | 14:36 |
| alterego | eat? | 14:36 |
| alterego | other trick? :) | 14:36 |
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| alterego | Do we have any documentation on doings this in the wiki? | 14:40 |
| alterego | Hmm, maybe this I guess: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Quality/ExecuteTests | 14:40 |
| w00t | or, if you want a simpler way that just works and doesn't require messing up loads of stuff, http://qtl.me/B7H.txt | 14:40 |
| w00t | source that | 14:41 |
| alterego | Ah, cool :) | 14:41 |
| alterego | Thanks :) | 14:41 |
| * alterego sticks in .bashrc :P | 14:41 | |
| alterego | w00t: presumably: export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=$(./getdbus.sh) | 14:43 |
| alterego | ? | 14:43 |
| w00t | if you source it, you don't need to export it | 14:43 |
| alterego | Oh, of course yeah. Sorry ;) | 14:44 |
| alterego | Awesome, now it's all working as expected :D | 14:45 |
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| alterego | Sage: I've just noticed something: self-obsoletion voicecall <= 0.1.5 obsoletes voicecall | 15:54 |
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| rem | hi there! I am having problems with bluetooth in Qt for desktop. What is the target need for building app for Exopc ? I guess is not harmattan | 17:16 |
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| Sage | yey, the videoplayback on the n950 works quite nicely actually | 18:47 |
| Sage | downloaded the 480p big buck bunny video and it is quite smooth | 18:48 |
| Sage | on n950 that is | 18:48 |
| Sage | and without hardware accelerated codecs | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:49 |
| Sage | also it works when minized to the background | 18:49 |
| Sage | live thumbnails in lipstick \o/ | 18:49 |
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| Sage | however there is "small" bug in that ;) | 18:50 |
| Sage | it plays the video full screen but the thumbnail shows only the small area that the thumbnail covers ;) | 18:50 |
| Sage | so one sees like 1/8th of the video or so ;) | 18:50 |
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| faenil | yo people :) hi from Tampere! :D | 19:22 |
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| Sage | faenil: hi :) | 19:39 |
| Sage | faenil: was just commenting here hour ago that videoplayer works nicely | 19:39 |
| Sage | faenil: downloaded 480p big buck bunny video and playing it on n950 | 19:39 |
| faenil | Sage, \o/ | 19:42 |
| faenil | Sage, anyway that doesn't count, it's what I used to test it, lol | 19:42 |
| Sage | :P | 19:43 |
| Sage | filed one bug about the video playback when application is minized | 19:43 |
| faenil | Sage, yeah read it, I think there's a chance special's fix to the flickering could also fix that | 19:46 |
| faenil | but that requires updating qtmobility :P | 19:47 |
| faenil | don't know if you two already talked about that :D | 19:47 |
| faenil | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414 | 19:48 |
| Merbot | Bug 414: major, Undecided, ---, john.brooks, RESOLVED CODEAVAILABLE, Flickering in video player / Unable to draw anything over the video player | 19:48 |
| Sage | oh, ok | 19:51 |
| zchydem | Evening... | 19:51 |
| Sage | well lets see if that is fixed there | 19:51 |
| faenil | Sage, that'll take a bit to get to nemo, won't it... | 19:52 |
| Sage | zchydem: evening | 19:52 |
| Sage | faenil: probably week or so yes | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | evening zchydem o// | 19:53 |
| faenil | Sage, thought worse ;) | 19:53 |
| faenil | zchydem, hey :) | 19:53 |
| zchydem | Sage & faenil hey! :) | 19:53 |
| zchydem | Stskeeps: youtoo:) | 19:54 |
| faenil | poor Stskeeps | 19:54 |
| faenil | oh there you go :D | 19:54 |
| zchydem | Don't you guys sleep at all? | 19:54 |
| w00t | sleep? what's that | 19:55 |
| zchydem | heh | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | zchydem: doing a thumb2+neon port of mer, it makes sense to let it build over the weekend.. | 19:55 |
| * w00t is just starting to look at hacking things | 19:56 | |
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| zchydem | w00t: you've been working on lipstick, right? | 19:56 |
| Sage | zchydem: sleep, weekend, freetime... no idea what those mean ;) | 19:56 |
| zchydem | Sage: don't burn out, but on the other hand if it's fun, why not... | 19:57 |
| w00t | zchydem: yes | 19:57 |
| Sage | btw, what was the dlna/sharing thingy framework in n9? | 19:58 |
| zchydem | I was wondering if I'll find any extra time, I could contribute there... | 19:58 |
| w00t | rygel | 19:58 |
| zchydem | w00t: ^ | 19:58 |
| w00t | zchydem: sure, help is more than welcome | 19:58 |
| w00t | there's a bunch of open tasks | 19:58 |
| * w00t finds link | 19:58 | |
| w00t | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?product=UX&component=Home&resolution=--- | 19:59 |
| zchydem | w00t: thanks. I think I'll first try browsing the code, build stuff and after that I may actually be able to do something like fixing bugs | 20:00 |
| w00t | *nod* | 20:01 |
| w00t | venemo is another face around here that you see working on it often | 20:01 |
| zchydem | ok | 20:01 |
| * zchydem needs to get his n950 back from ars_ in few days... | 20:01 | |
| Sage | w00t: btw, I was really surpriced that live thumbnail is sort of working with video playback and lipstick :) | 20:02 |
| w00t | hmph, oh ye of little faith | 20:03 |
| w00t | :P | 20:03 |
| Sage | w00t: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443 not sure if this should be in home screen or in the videoplayer | 20:03 |
| Merbot | Bug 443: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Live thumbnail when playing video doesn't show the full video | 20:03 |
| Sage | err.. gallery | 20:03 |
| w00t | I expect we'll probably want to pause video in the background | 20:04 |
| w00t | this reminds me | 20:04 |
| w00t | I really need to fix window minimized state | 20:04 |
| Sage | w00t: well I would say make it configurable but by default stop. | 20:05 |
| faenil | zchydem, sleep? that's for n00bz | 20:05 |
| faenil | lol | 20:05 |
| w00t | Sage: as in, I don't think we're going to get it to work thumbnailed | 20:05 |
| w00t | due to the way video playback works | 20:05 |
| w00t | well, that plus battery consumption etc | 20:05 |
| Sage | w00t: ok, well just an idea :) | 20:06 |
| w00t | *nod* | 20:06 |
| zchydem | faenil: or for parents:) | 20:09 |
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| faenil | zchydem, ahah :D | 20:09 |
| * Sage ponders if it is possible to enable mouse cursor for n950 for demos | 20:14 | |
| Sage | or do we have way to show dots on screen where users touches? | 20:14 |
| w00t | no and no | 20:16 |
| Sage | that would be very nice thing for demos | 20:16 |
| w00t | I had intended to hack something into mcompositor to show the mouse cursor under some conditions, it would be nice to use it on larger screens | 20:16 |
| Sage | iirc, harmattan had that kind of feature on n950 if you presesd some key | 20:17 |
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| * w00t never knew of it | 20:17 | |
| w00t | sure it wasn't just meegotouch specific? | 20:17 |
| Sage | could have been | 20:17 |
| w00t | yup | 20:18 |
| w00t | 20:18 | |
| w00t | src/corelib/core/mcomponentdata.cpp: << " [-show-cursor] Force the cursor to be visible\n" | 20:18 |
| Sage | not that | 20:18 |
| w00t | (don't ask me why I still have a checkout around) | 20:18 |
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| faenil | w00t, don't you think using xvideo instead of overlay could fix the thumbnail problem? at the moment we can't even rotate the video (that's why it's forced to landscape atm)...so that must be some related problem | 20:24 |
| faenil | (with at the moment I mean without xvideo's patch) | 20:24 |
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| faenil | my notebook is shutting off in a min...I forgot the ac adaptor...argh | 20:38 |
| faenil | see you tomorrow people! | 20:38 |
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| special | Stskeeps: no, xvideo doesn't fix the one we were talking about | 21:00 |
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| special | and, xvideo won't fix the thumbnailing thing. I agree with w00t, we should pause when minimized. Because of how xvideo works, it's the only sane option. | 21:02 |
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