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iekku | morning | 03:10 |
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* Sage ponders what is using telepathy-farsight or if we could just move to telepathy-farstream and to latest upstream | 03:57 | |
Sage | special, alterego, w00t: video conferencing ready soon? ;) | 03:58 |
special | ..oh dear. | 03:59 |
special | afaik nothing is using farsight at the moment | 03:59 |
Sage | peregrine is probably, but we are dropping it form apps as it is not maintained anymore it seems. | 04:00 |
special | peregrine seems useless on handsets. | 04:01 |
special | the UI is obviously intended for tablets | 04:01 |
Sage | true | 04:07 |
Sage | anyway I'm sending a mail to mer-general asking if there is someone interested of maintaining it | 04:08 |
special | I would advocate pretty strongly for getting rid of it | 04:09 |
Sage | well, we drop it from default apps yes, but if there is someone interesting maintaining it it can stay in CE:Apps | 04:10 |
special | only if it doesn't hold up other things, like replacing farsight with farstream. | 04:13 |
Sage | yes | 04:13 |
Sage | thus me asking if there is someone maintaining it. If not then it will be dropped | 04:13 |
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Sage | we can't keep anything there that is holding us back with the upstream stuff. | 04:15 |
Sage | but still we should give everyone a change to maintain their applications | 04:15 |
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special | I'm biased against bad UI :p | 04:21 |
Sage | :) | 04:24 |
the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6027 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6027 | 04:31 |
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the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6027 Accepted promotion request | 04:35 |
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Sage | camera doesn't work on n900, maybe same policy rules that were updated to n950 needs to go to n900 as well. | 05:09 |
Stskeeps | perhaps | 05:09 |
* Stskeeps needs to charge his n950 it seems | 05:11 | |
Sage | crevetor: you made the SR for n950 policy rules. Was the patch from you? | 05:11 |
Sage | the general performance of n900 is much better than I remembered | 05:14 |
Sage | also memory consumption is relatively low | 05:14 |
Sage | 6 apps open and still not much in swap http://pastie.org/4572524 | 05:15 |
Sage | w00t: any change we could get a keycombo to take screenshots on n950/n900 would help creating bugs a lot :) | 05:19 |
special | there is a bug somewhere about screenshots | 05:20 |
special | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237 | 05:20 |
Merbot | Bug 237: task, Low, ---, nicola, NEW, Create dedicated screenshot application with QML | 05:20 |
Sage | special: yes, but it should be build so that keycompo would active it as well | 05:22 |
special | yes. | 05:22 |
timoph | hmmh | 05:23 |
Stskeeps | morn timoph | 05:23 |
* Stskeeps passes timoph coffee | 05:23 | |
Sage | w00t: http://sage.kapsi.fi/Nemo-tmp/20120823-052028.png that isn't in the center ;) | 05:23 |
* timoph forgot about the background image thing | 05:23 | |
timoph | a moment | 05:23 |
timoph | http://timoph.fi/sveitsi-niina/IMG_0168.JPG | 05:23 |
timoph | I was thinking that | 05:23 |
special | Sage: I think I fixed that bug in gallery once :p | 05:23 |
timoph | there's also a couple of other good ones | 05:23 |
timoph | (that version of the photo is 25% size of the original and 75% quality) | 05:24 |
Sage | special: heh, I don't want to start creating bugs about every minor detail thus said here :P | 05:25 |
Sage | sysuid, pulseaudio and journald are causing notable pref loss to n900 btw | 05:27 |
Sage | sysuid taking 10% cpu, pulseaudio 2.5% and systemd-journal 2.5% contantly | 05:27 |
Stskeeps | sysuid is charging animation | 05:28 |
Sage | yes, which is quite bad | 05:30 |
Sage | and pulseaudio and sytemd-journald is the message flood about cmt or so | 05:31 |
Sage | Aug 23 05:09:28 localhost pulseaudio[517]: cmtspeech-connection.c: closing and reopening cmtspeech device | 05:31 |
Sage | Aug 23 05:09:28 localhost pulseaudio[517]: libcmtspeechdata: nokiamodem_backend: unable to open device /dev/cmt_speech ('No such device'). | 05:31 |
Sage | that one | 05:31 |
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the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6022 Accepted promotion request | 05:54 |
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* Sage starts to fiddle around with CE:Utils project | 06:11 | |
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Sage | is mad-developer something we use in the future btw? | 06:13 |
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Stskeeps | maybe maybe not | 06:15 |
Sage | lbt: have you though about publishing mer-tools repos with mer version prefix? Just pondering how to make sure that Mer:Tools repo works for sure with certain Mer. | 06:16 |
Sage | lbt: also you publish only i486 where for nemo we need all | 06:17 |
Sage | lbt: also meaning that there needs to be release done against every mer version e.g., in case of ABI changes | 06:21 |
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w00t | Sage: can you please test upgrade path with https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=lipstick-colorful-home&project=home%3Aw00t%3Abranches%3AProject%3AMTF%3AUX ? | 06:38 |
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Sage | w00t: sure. | 06:56 |
Sage | w00t: well without installing I can see that it wont work with that. You need to have Obsoletes: meegotouch-home <= cur version, Provides: meegotouch-home = cur version.1 or something | 06:58 |
w00t | err | 06:59 |
w00t | didn't I do that? | 06:59 |
w00t | ah, crap | 06:59 |
w00t | I forgot specify | 06:59 |
Sage | you have conflicts there | 06:59 |
Sage | also shouldn't that require lipstick ? | 06:59 |
w00t | it's C++, so it should be picked up as a requirement from build | 07:00 |
w00t | should I remove the Conflicts: on meegotouch-home, actually? | 07:00 |
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Sage | yes if it obsoletes and provides it | 07:01 |
w00t | fixed those, committed | 07:02 |
Sage | ah, I'm blind ... lipstick is there actually | 07:03 |
w00t | BuildRequires, yes | 07:04 |
special | http://pastie.org/4572907 does anyone have a better hack than this for getting DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS over ssh? | 07:09 |
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Sage | special: depends what you are doing actually. | 07:12 |
special | I'm trying to get the same dbus session over SSH as is used under X. | 07:12 |
Stskeeps | special: eat-device | 07:12 |
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Sage | we really need a step by step guide for eat | 07:13 |
Sage | Stskeeps: also it is not in nemo repos by default thus we would need the mer:tools integarated | 07:13 |
special | I've never heard of it before now | 07:13 |
w00t | Sage: look ok now? | 07:14 |
Stskeeps | to add test enablement to a device, add Mer:Tools:Devel, add eat-device in %packages and su -c 'eat-add-device-key' - root and for each of the users needing test login | 07:14 |
Stskeeps | and eat-host in sdk | 07:15 |
Stskeeps | and eat-install-host-key or something | 07:15 |
Stskeeps | and then ssh to nemo@device | 07:15 |
Sage | w00t: yes | 07:15 |
Sage | checking | 07:15 |
Sage | w00t: first package that depends on mlite btw :) | 07:16 |
w00t | hmm, are you sure about that? | 07:17 |
w00t | i'm sure there was others | 07:17 |
Sage | well, I didn't have it on my image ealier lipstick brought it with | 07:17 |
Sage | The following NEW packages are going to be installed: lipstick lipstick-colorful-home mlite | 07:17 |
w00t | strange | 07:18 |
Grimmer | hoami | 07:18 |
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Sage | w00t: ok, it works. But I would prefer some fixes before replacing it in nemo image. For N900 at least it works quite randomly or at least it seems to work quite randomly | 07:20 |
w00t | randomly how? | 07:20 |
Sage | When I tap the systemui bar on top it opens random application :) | 07:21 |
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w00t | it's not random, and I see it too | 07:22 |
w00t | scroll to the top of the launcher, and try it | 07:22 |
w00t | does it still happen? | 07:22 |
Sage | oh, no :) | 07:24 |
Sage | systemui doesn't open, known issue? | 07:24 |
Sage | application icon list scrolling is very slow on N900 | 07:25 |
w00t | systemui? | 07:26 |
w00t | any chance you can do a video of scrolling? | 07:26 |
Sage | hell... status bar :D | 07:26 |
Sage | or what ever we should call it where the icons and clock is :) | 07:26 |
* w00t is confused | 07:27 | |
w00t | you press it, and nothing happens, or what? | 07:27 |
Sage | pah, let me try to to do video | 07:27 |
w00t | yeah, sorry for the pain :p | 07:27 |
Sage | the responsiveness is very bad on n900. will reboot once more just to make sure it is not that | 07:28 |
Stskeeps | could somebody do me a ps aux from a nemo mobile image? | 07:28 |
w00t | Sage: I have some ideas to improve responsiveness | 07:28 |
w00t | Sage: there's also https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338 for instance | 07:29 |
Merbot | Bug 338: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, LauncherItem icon lookups are really really slow, especially when the icon is not found | 07:29 |
w00t | Stskeeps: http://qtl.me/LMP.txt | 07:29 |
Stskeeps | thanks | 07:30 |
jukkaeklund | so I screwed nemo on N950 yesterday, when is the next image coming? | 07:31 |
special | alterego: any news on qml commhistory? | 07:31 |
alterego | special: I said before the weekend :P | 07:33 |
iekku | alterego, it's before weekend | 07:34 |
alterego | I didn't meant /this/ far before the weekend :P | 07:34 |
special | haha | 07:35 |
special | just curious if things are coming along well | 07:35 |
alterego | If you knew how much I had to do right now you wouldn't :P | 07:36 |
alterego | And the quality of the coffee I'm drinking -_- | 07:36 |
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w00t | alterego: perhaps if you're too busy, you should let special pick it up since he obviously needs it (and presumably has time to work on it)? | 07:37 |
* special glares at w00t | 07:38 | |
alterego | lol | 07:38 |
alterego | That's a really good idea. | 07:38 |
alterego | Special, do you like what your pimp is saying? | 07:38 |
* alterego chuckles | 07:38 | |
special | ..no, actually. :p | 07:38 |
niqt | mornig | 07:38 |
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special | I probably could work on it a bit if you don't have time. I might release messages with my ugly hack at first either way, though | 07:39 |
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Sage | jukkaeklund: hopefully this evening | 07:40 |
Sage | w00t: uploading the video :P | 07:40 |
w00t | Sage: thanks, appreciated | 07:41 |
Sage | over 100M though N9 and 720p :P | 07:42 |
Sage | http://sage.kapsi.fi/Nemo-tmp/videos/12080069.mp4 | 07:42 |
Sage | w00t: ^ | 07:42 |
* w00t wgets | 07:43 | |
w00t | (what the fuck is the point of web browsers having video support when they can *never* play anything I try view in them?) | 07:43 |
jukkaeklund | Sage, cool | 07:44 |
Sage | w00t: heh, I have same issue with browsers :) | 07:45 |
Venemo | good morning | 07:45 |
Sage | w00t: the status bar doesn't open, application icon list very hard to scroll and changing view is slow and needs concentration to get it working :) | 07:46 |
niqt | Sage: for bug 273 Debesh Rout suggest me to set ALREADYFIXED, but i don't see thi field in combobox (status) | 07:46 |
Merbot | Bug https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=273 task, Low, ---, not-taken, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, udev spec file has invalid URL entry | 07:46 |
w00t | Sage: watching | 07:47 |
Sage | niqt: there isn't alreadyfixed. And that bug should be wontfix actually | 07:47 |
Venemo | Sage, about the video: status bar only works if you run it in the same d-bus session | 07:47 |
w00t | Venemo: see sage's video (http://sage.kapsi.fi/Nemo-tmp/videos/12080069.mp4) for the impact of https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338 | 07:48 |
Merbot | Bug 338: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, LauncherItem icon lookups are really really slow, especially when the icon is not found | 07:48 |
Venemo | w00t, yeah, that is slow for me too | 07:48 |
niqt | ok | 07:48 |
Venemo | Sage, if you launched it from a terminal or something, it's not enough to set DISPLAY=:0, you must have the same d-bus session for the status bar to work | 07:48 |
w00t | Sage: re: "changing view is slow", what about the buttons at the top of the homescreen? they work ok? | 07:49 |
Sage | w00t: those are ok. As you can see from the video | 07:49 |
Venemo | changing view is only slow when you swipe slow | 07:49 |
Venemo | :) | 07:49 |
w00t | Venemo: well, not entirely | 07:49 |
Sage | Venemo: it is slow even when you swipe fast on my n900 | 07:49 |
w00t | the views do require a rather large pan to switch them correctly | 07:50 |
w00t | it may be that a custom view would be better there | 07:50 |
Sage | also lock when keyboard is open would be very nice | 07:50 |
Sage | rotation lock that is | 07:50 |
w00t | Sage: hmm. is sysuid running? | 07:50 |
Venemo | w00t, perhaps the path view needs some tweaking | 07:51 |
Venemo | Sage, I didn't find any proper option to detect keyboard open status. otherwise I agree with that :) | 07:51 |
Sage | w00t: yes | 07:52 |
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Sage | w00t: fwiw I got status bar open once | 07:52 |
Sage | not sure how but it opened :P | 07:52 |
w00t | Sage: ok, so, let's summarise this: system menu not launching (blocker to integration), annoying panning between launcher/switcher (blocker?), systemui not blocking presses on items underneath it, launcher icons are slow to load (already tracked as NEMO#273) | 07:53 |
Venemo | interesting | 07:53 |
Venemo | I can't reproduce the systemui issues | 07:53 |
w00t | Venemo: is this an n900? | 07:53 |
Venemo | w00t, N950 | 07:53 |
Sage | w00t: yes, if those are fixed I would say good to go | 07:53 |
w00t | Venemo: right, neither can I | 07:53 |
Sage | related to multitouch vs single touch display? | 07:54 |
Venemo | Sage, did you launch it in the same d-bus session as the rest of the ux? | 07:54 |
w00t | Sage: I'd like all of them fixed obviously, but can we leave items not marked "blocker" for after first integration? | 07:54 |
Venemo | Sage, possible... it responds to touch events, not mouse events. that should be fixed for sure. | 07:54 |
* w00t is working on that | 07:55 | |
Venemo | well, that's my fault. | 07:55 |
Sage | w00t: fair enough, maybe the worst issue iw the top bar not blocking application launch | 07:55 |
w00t | Venemo: Sage: I'll file bugs for all of them so we have visibility on what needs doing | 07:56 |
Venemo | w00t, it should be fixed with the status bar responding to mouse events instead of touch events. | 07:57 |
w00t | Venemo: yes, that's what I'm doing | 07:57 |
Venemo | :) | 07:57 |
Sage | w00t: oh, and somekind of indicator when icon is pressed would be nice in application launcher | 07:57 |
Venemo | Sage, that's on my todo list | 07:57 |
Venemo | so is an orientation change animation | 07:58 |
Venemo | in the meantime, can you tell me how to detect keyboard openness? | 07:58 |
veskuh | Venemo: One way is via context kit property if I recall correctly | 07:59 |
veskuh | Venemo: don't remember if there is anything suitable in qml directly | 07:59 |
Venemo | veskuh, not an issue, I can write C++ | 08:00 |
veskuh | :) | 08:00 |
Venemo | veskuh, can you point me to some example about this? | 08:00 |
w00t | Sage: Venemo: can you please check the task list at https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?product=UX&component=Home&resolution=--- ? | 08:01 |
w00t | if there's any other immediate items, let's hear them now | 08:01 |
Venemo | sure | 08:01 |
veskuh | Venemo: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/platform-api-reference/showdoc.php?pkn=contextkit&wb=daily-docs&url=Li94bWwvZGFpbHktZG9jcy9jb250ZXh0a2l0 | 08:01 |
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Sage | w00t: let me play around with this a moment :) | 08:03 |
Venemo | veskuh, http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/platform-api-reference/xml/daily-docs/contextkit/context-properties.html - doesn't say anything about keyboard | 08:03 |
niqt | Sage: for bug 328 do you mean search field on top of the contacts? | 08:04 |
Merbot | Bug https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328 normal, Normal, ---, david, RESOLVED FIXED, mer-sdk-chroot umount leaves / mounted to /srv/mer/sdks | 08:04 |
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niqt | 328 for nemo | 08:04 |
Sage | /kick Merbot | 08:04 |
veskuh | Venemo: hmm.. apparently my memory is not what it used to be. | 08:04 |
Sage | niqt: wrong bug number https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328 | 08:05 |
Merbot | Bug 328: critical, Undecided, ---, need-triage, REOPENED, Dialer application is not opening | 08:05 |
niqt | sorry https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268 | 08:06 |
Merbot | Bug 268: task, High, ---, not-taken, NEW, [FEA] Search contacts | 08:06 |
veskuh | Venemo: There used to be according to this: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=21100 | 08:06 |
Venemo | hm. | 08:06 |
Sage | w00t: is there pinch zoom in application and open app views? | 08:06 |
Sage | not working on n900 anyway thus asking | 08:07 |
Venemo | veskuh, perhaps (since the N9 doesn't have a keyboard) they didn't feel like documenting this for the final harmattan docs? | 08:07 |
w00t | Sage: no | 08:07 |
w00t | at least not afaik | 08:07 |
Venemo | Sage, not yet | 08:07 |
veskuh | Venemo: that could be it | 08:07 |
w00t | Venemo: mind filing that as another bug so it's tracked? | 08:07 |
Venemo | Sage, it could be added easily | 08:07 |
Venemo | w00t, sure | 08:07 |
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Venemo | w00t, https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353 | 08:08 |
Merbot | Bug 353: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, AppSwitcher: Pinch to zoom | 08:08 |
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w00t | thankyou | 08:09 |
Venemo | w00t, I see you deleted the code from lipstick which triggers a redraw after the homescreen gets out of focus | 08:09 |
w00t | errm.. | 08:10 |
w00t | where was this? | 08:10 |
w00t | <- goldfish brain | 08:10 |
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Venemo | w00t, apologies. no you didn't | 08:11 |
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Venemo | w00t, https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/blob/master/src/homeapplication.cpp#L128 | 08:11 |
w00t | why is that done? | 08:11 |
Venemo | this is a temporary measure until the bug in X is fixed | 08:12 |
w00t | hmmph | 08:12 |
w00t | ok, though I really don't like it | 08:12 |
Venemo | me either | 08:12 |
Venemo | but without it, the home screen below the status bar will never be really viewable | 08:13 |
Venemo | w00t, side note: the same bug exists for the virtual keyboard and that is not fixed by this bug. | 08:13 |
Venemo | w00t, side note: the same bug exists for the virtual keyboard and that is not fixed by this | 08:13 |
Sage | close all would be nice feature | 08:14 |
Venemo | Sage, would you prefer it as a long press (like on harmattan), or a button at the bottom would be fine? | 08:15 |
Sage | Venemo: well, if it is long press then those X marks should be probably removed by default similar to harmattan | 08:15 |
Venemo | Sage, I hate that on harmattan (that I have to long press for the Xes to appear) | 08:16 |
Sage | Venemo: but both are fine, however it needs to be in such way done that one can't accidently close applications | 08:16 |
Sage | Venemo: well I like it as I can't accidently close app ;) | 08:16 |
Venemo | Sage, so, what are you suggesting? | 08:16 |
rozhkov | Does anybody use Nemo on N900? After I have run `zypper ref; zypper up` the device fails to boot to UI | 08:17 |
Sage | Venemo: not sure :) | 08:17 |
Venemo | rozhkov, yep, known issue | 08:17 |
Sage | rozhkov: even after reboot? | 08:17 |
rozhkov | Venemo: great i'm not alone :) is there a cure? | 08:17 |
Venemo | Sage, either we add that long press thing. the other way is to add a dialog "are you sure you want to close this app?" | 08:17 |
Sage | Venemo: that is too complex again if you want to close 3 of 5 apps for example | 08:18 |
Venemo | rozhkov, reflash, then run the upgrade process inside 'screen' -> the screen will go blank for about half an hour before the upgrade is finished. then do a force reboot. | 08:18 |
Venemo | Sage, true. | 08:18 |
Sage | w00t: btw, what I noted as well, the battery indicator isn't updating on n900 with lipstick ux | 08:19 |
rozhkov | Venemo: well, actually I run `zypper ref; zypper up; reboot` inside a screen session | 08:20 |
w00t | also a known bug, the status menu only redraws itself in certain conditions | 08:20 |
w00t | I don't think we have that one filed | 08:20 |
rozhkov | Sage: seems reboot doesn't help | 08:20 |
Venemo | rozhkov, perhaps you didn't wait long enough for it | 08:20 |
Sage | rozhkov: can you login and provide some info? | 08:20 |
rozhkov | Venemo: i run it yesterday and went home :) | 08:20 |
w00t | Sage: filed as NEMO#355 | 08:20 |
Venemo | w00t, Sage, that is https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340 | 08:20 |
Merbot | Bug 340: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Status bar: subscribe for damage events | 08:20 |
rozhkov | .xsession-errors is full of | 08:21 |
rozhkov | "/usr/bin/mdecorator" Connection timeout when waiting for packet 3 Retrying. | 08:21 |
w00t | olh | 08:21 |
w00t | oh* | 08:21 |
Venemo | w00t, MUHAHA! our first duplicate bug :) | 08:21 |
* w00t resolves duplicate | 08:21 | |
Venemo | rozhkov, well then, you need someone smarter than me | 08:21 |
alterego | Is there a way to test xdg autostart .desktop files? | 08:21 |
Sage | rozhkov: ps aux | grep Xorg, and systemctl status uxlaunch.service | 08:22 |
rozhkov | Sage: http://pastie.org/4573158 | 08:22 |
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Sage | rozhkov: hmmp... first 200 lines of /home/nemo/.xsession-error | 08:26 |
alterego | Sage: where would I but a .sh file that is executed by an xdg autostart .desktop? | 08:26 |
alterego | Not sure it's really one for /usr/bin, though I guess it could go there. | 08:27 |
alterego | Maybe /usr/share/telepathy-ring or something | 08:27 |
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Stskeeps | /usr/bin usually | 08:27 |
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Sage | alterego: /usr/bin | 08:27 |
alterego | m'kay | 08:27 |
rozhkov | Sage: http://pastie.org/4573173 | 08:28 |
Sage | rozhkov: full ps aux please | 08:30 |
Sage | mthemedaemon crashes on the background maybe? | 08:30 |
rozhkov | Sage: http://pastie.org/4573196 | 08:31 |
rozhkov | Sage: N9 with latest sw boots ok, but use Nemo + our repos | 08:32 |
Sage | nemo 1747 0.9 0.0 0 0 ? Z 02:11 0:00 [mcompositor] <defunct> | 08:32 |
tukem | about closing the applications.. What happens if application shows Save-dialog when it receives close signal? | 08:32 |
Sage | nemo 1750 0.8 0.0 0 0 ? Z 02:11 0:00 [meego-pinquery] <defunct> | 08:32 |
Sage | nemo 1751 0.8 0.0 0 0 ? Z 02:11 0:00 [mthemedaemon] <defunct> | 08:32 |
Sage | rozhkov: mcompositor is the one causing the problem as it causes uxlaunch to restart when it dies | 08:33 |
rozhkov | Sage: do you remember when it got updated? i can try to downgrade it | 08:35 |
Sage | rozhkov: what got updated? | 08:36 |
Sage | I have the latest and the greatest on my N900 and everything works fine | 08:36 |
rozhkov | Sage: mcompositor | 08:36 |
Sage | I don't think we have updated it in a long while | 08:37 |
w00t | Sage: can you try upgrade lipstick from home:w00t:branches:Project:MTF:UX and see if your status bar issues improve? | 08:41 |
Sage | w00t: k | 08:43 |
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w00t | I can no longer press items under the status bar, and in theory it might be more reliable for pressing on n900 | 08:43 |
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Sage | w00t: still same issue | 08:48 |
Venemo | Sage, same as? | 08:48 |
w00t | Sage: same how? | 08:49 |
Sage | w00t: no change in status bar touch thingy | 08:52 |
w00t | so it still launches stuff under it? that isn't possible.. | 08:53 |
Sage | it is | 08:54 |
Venemo | did you restart the home screen after the lipstick upgrade? | 08:54 |
Sage | rebooted the device :) | 08:55 |
Sage | I guess that is enough ;) | 08:55 |
w00t | oh hell | 08:55 |
* w00t is a flaming idiot, as always | 08:55 | |
w00t | hint: when you create a patch for someone to test, it helps if you run "osc commit" | 08:55 |
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Sage | :D | 08:57 |
w00t | Sage: update when it rebuilds | 08:59 |
w00t | shouldn't take long | 08:59 |
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Venemo | w00t, where is the source for contentaction? | 09:06 |
faenil | goood morning :) | 09:06 |
Venemo | hey faenil :) | 09:06 |
faenil | hey :) | 09:06 |
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w00t | Venemo: mlite | 09:08 |
Venemo | w00t, I thought it's a separate lib | 09:09 |
Venemo | but ok | 09:09 |
faenil | w00t, could you please share your experience with qdeclarativelist? what were you trying to do? I think I'm going to fight with the same thing | 09:09 |
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Venemo | w00t, would it be fine for you if we also used some qt-components in the home screen? | 09:10 |
special | wasn't it qt5, or going to be qt5, or something like that? | 09:10 |
Venemo | hm? | 09:11 |
special | eh, nevermind | 09:11 |
special | thinking of something unrelated | 09:11 |
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w00t | i am lagging, please wait for any answers from me | 09:11 |
special | what do you want components for? | 09:11 |
Venemo | special, whatever there is and I don't feel like reinventing the wheel for. eg. textfield | 09:12 |
w00t | contentaction probably is seperate yes, i forget, been a while since i looked | 09:12 |
w00t | qdeclarativelist: i have no idea what you're talking about right now | 09:13 |
w00t | qt-components: probably fine, keep an eye on RAM impact though, as i imagine it'll increase a fair bit | 09:13 |
sledges | morning all! | 09:14 |
Venemo | hey sledges :) | 09:14 |
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sledges | hi Venemo, how did your update go? :) | 09:15 |
Venemo | sledges, it was successful this time | 09:15 |
sledges | good, glad to see you happy :) | 09:16 |
Venemo | I'm now once again happily hacking on the home screen | 09:16 |
sledges | Sage, https://build.pub.meego.com/package/rdiff?linkrev=base&package=dsme&project=Project%3AMTF%3AMW&rev=2 | 09:16 |
sledges | you mean lipstick? | 09:16 |
Venemo | that too | 09:16 |
sledges | goody :) | 09:17 |
w00t | Sage: can you retry now? | 09:17 |
niqt | woot: can i build qmlcontact with QtSdk or i need obs? | 09:17 |
w00t | niqt: I don't use the SDK, so I don't know, give it a try? | 09:18 |
w00t | make sure you build/install nemo-qml-plugins first | 09:18 |
Sage | w00t: still same issue | 09:18 |
w00t | Sage: ?! | 09:18 |
niqt | with qtsdk have "/tmp/qmlcontacts/src/src.pro:12: error: Unknown test function: packagesExist" because myquestion | 09:18 |
Sage | sledges: ah, need to fix those | 09:19 |
w00t | niqt: you need Qt 4.8 or above, so I guess the answer is "no" then | 09:19 |
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sledges | Sage, cheers, probably just appending to your infinite TODO list, but we're with you for the repo revamp! | 09:19 |
Sage | sledges: err... that should be ok | 09:20 |
w00t | Sage: it did give you an update to install, right? | 09:20 |
niqt | thanks | 09:20 |
Sage | sledges: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?expand=0&file=_link&package=dsme&project=Project%3AMTF%3AMW&rev=b5382791346d87b449b930d05a6ca45e | 09:20 |
Sage | w00t: yes | 09:20 |
w00t | I really don't understand. the patch is there, it's presumably applied and built fine, and works for me - how can it not work for you? | 09:21 |
faenil | hey sledges :) | 09:22 |
Sage | w00t: lipstick-0.3.0-3.1.Project.MTF.UX and lipstick-colorful-home-0.0.1-2.3.Project.MTF.UX | 09:22 |
sledges | ehi la faenil ! :) | 09:23 |
faenil | :) | 09:23 |
w00t | Installing: lipstick-0.3.0-3.1.Project.MTF.UX [done] | 09:30 |
w00t | Installing: lipstick-colorful-home-0.0.1-2.3.Project.MTF.UX [done] | 09:30 |
w00t | let's see | 09:30 |
w00t | Sage: I think I understand why: can you be *very* precise and make sure you're pressing the status bar? (stylus, pen, whatever) | 09:33 |
w00t | Venemo: seems your tab bar is also not blocking mouse presses to launcher items underneath | 09:33 |
* Venemo is checking | 09:34 | |
w00t | yeah | 09:34 |
w00t | you need a MouseArea on the Rectangle | 09:34 |
Venemo | k | 09:36 |
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Venemo | w00t, plain mouse area with anchors.fill: parent will do? | 09:38 |
w00t | yes | 09:38 |
w00t | should do at least | 09:38 |
faenil | Sage, ping | 09:39 |
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Venemo | w00t, oh, it's not needed. | 09:44 |
Venemo | w00t, I already set clip: true on the path view | 09:44 |
Venemo | that should do it | 09:45 |
w00t | Venemo: it doesn't | 09:45 |
Venemo | w00t, it's not pushed yet. | 09:45 |
w00t | ah, ok | 09:45 |
Venemo | w00t, or have you tried too? | 09:45 |
w00t | no, I haven't | 09:45 |
w00t | I assumed it was already done | 09:45 |
Venemo | nope | 09:45 |
Sage | w00t: oh, it works | 09:47 |
Sage | very precise touch works on n900 | 09:48 |
w00t | ok, it should be better with Venemo's fixes too | 09:49 |
w00t | Venemo: do you have patches to go into lipstick release? I'd like to tag v0.3.1 to push now that the statusbar C++ fixes are done | 09:53 |
Venemo | w00t, I do! | 09:53 |
w00t | oki | 09:53 |
Sage | w00t: the icons are still started behind status bar btw | 09:54 |
Sage | but status bar can be clicked with very precise click | 09:54 |
Venemo | Sage, that's gonna be fixed by the home screen itself | 09:54 |
Venemo | w00t, pushed my changes to lipstick | 09:54 |
Venemo | w00t, there aren't many, but the homescreen already depends on the empty launcher icon path fix | 09:55 |
w00t | depends how, out of interest? :-) | 09:55 |
Venemo | depends on the behaviour of launcheritem | 09:56 |
Venemo | w00t, https://github.com/Venemo/colorful-home/blob/master/src/qml/pages/AppLauncher.qml#L66 | 09:56 |
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Stskeeps | \o/ | 09:57 |
faenil | Sage, ... | 09:57 |
w00t | Venemo: ah | 09:57 |
Venemo | w00t, and the app launcher is no longer behaving sluggish | 09:58 |
Sage | faenil: ah, pong | 09:59 |
faenil | Sage, :P | 09:59 |
Sage | :) | 09:59 |
faenil | Sage, found the cause of the mess | 09:59 |
Sage | faenil: permission mess? | 09:59 |
faenil | Sage, yep | 09:59 |
w00t | v0.3.1 tagged | 09:59 |
faenil | Sage, it happens that you accidentally start apps while scrolling lipstick | 10:00 |
faenil | Sage, yesterday, it started Mad-Developer | 10:00 |
faenil | nothing happens, but you get the permission mess as soon as you start it! | 10:00 |
Sage | oh | 10:00 |
Sage | Stskeeps: ^ | 10:00 |
Stskeeps | killitwithfire | 10:00 |
faenil | I discovered it with some luck | 10:01 |
faenil | I was giving a look at the icons, noticed MadDev, and I started it, and noticed lipstick suddenly started lagging | 10:02 |
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Venemo | for those of you who thought that I'd make a tab bar for only two tabs: http://kepfeltoltes.hu/120823/12080016_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg | 10:04 |
faenil | is MadDev essential? | 10:04 |
Venemo | faenil, mad developer doesn't even work (at least it didn't last time I checked) | 10:04 |
faenil | Venemo, <3 | 10:04 |
faenil | Venemo, MadDeveloper bricks your Nemo...that's what it does | 10:04 |
Venemo | LoL | 10:04 |
faenil | start it once, and you're f***ed :D | 10:04 |
Venemo | I'm not even sure why we ship it | 10:05 |
Venemo | same is true about a few other things as well | 10:05 |
faenil | Venemo, it resets the owner of /home/nemo to 500 :/ | 10:05 |
faenil | Venemo, X doesn't start, and you're stuck on Nemo's bootscreen | 10:06 |
Venemo | ok | 10:06 |
Venemo | please file a bug for it to be removed | 10:06 |
faenil | yeah I was asking here, if that was the case | 10:06 |
Venemo | there is no point of having it at all | 10:06 |
faenil | why are we shipping it? :) | 10:06 |
alterego | Sage: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/6039 | 10:07 |
alterego | Is boss broken? | 10:07 |
Sage | alterego: no it is my job in that part :/ | 10:08 |
alterego | Ah, m'kay | 10:08 |
sledges | for the poweroff quick-fix, what dsme version should I blob next? OBS says (by Markus Lehtone) 0.62.1.1 rel 0, upstream debian/changelog says 0.62.1. I think Markus should've written 0.62.1-1 (i.e. rel 1) and my turn would be to write in -2 | 10:10 |
Sage | alterego: that should also depend on telepathy-mission-control after that. | 10:10 |
sledges | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=dsme&project=Project%3AMTF%3AMW | 10:10 |
Sage | sledges: release numberings are not currently looked from .spec files so those do not matter atm. | 10:11 |
Sage | sledges: also we will not follow debian releases numbers | 10:12 |
alterego | Sage: okay. | 10:12 |
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sledges | Sage, so I can rename it to 0.62.1-2 at will | 10:13 |
Sage | sledges: so that 0.62.1.1 is in purpose. As at times debian packages change actual code in releases and we can't follow them. | 10:13 |
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sledges | ok | 10:13 |
Sage | sledges: thus the .1 | 10:13 |
w00t | is something flaky with COBS? | 10:14 |
sledges | so I'll blob 0.62.1.1-2 on then :) | 10:14 |
w00t | I've been sitting waiting for an osc commit for like, 5 minutes | 10:14 |
sledges | or just leave it | 10:14 |
w00t | and it's not a big commit | 10:14 |
Sage | sledges: if you add patch the version is the same and doesn't matter if you change Release or not as OBS handles it anyway. Version should change only when tarball changes. | 10:15 |
faenil | Venemo, are the icons for the topbar from iconsweets? :D | 10:15 |
w00t | ok, now it seems to be working | 10:15 |
w00t | maybe... | 10:15 |
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Venemo | faenil, yes. | 10:15 |
faenil | Venemo, sexy :) | 10:16 |
Venemo | faenil, they allow to use them for any commercial and noncommercial use, so I didn't see any reason for not using them | 10:16 |
faenil | Venemo, yeah :) | 10:16 |
alterego | Sage: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/6040 | 10:16 |
sledges | ok Sage thanks!, means Philippe misnumbered this one: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=meegotouch-systemui.changes&package=meegotouch-systemui&project=CE%3AUX%3AMTF&rev=3526628811e76de9c5f1f526af8a5e28 | 10:16 |
Sage | sledges: well, yes and no :) | 10:17 |
sledges | :D | 10:17 |
sledges | now I'm getting confused | 10:17 |
Sage | sledges: we don't care what comes after - in .changes :) | 10:17 |
Sage | ok let me try to explain it better | 10:18 |
Sage | so OBS has to variables that are used in nemo. <Change count>.<Build count> | 10:18 |
Sage | which together make release number and replaces anything that is in Release: field of .spec file | 10:18 |
Sage | Change count is increased by 1 every time change is pushed to package in obs and then bulid count is reset | 10:19 |
Sage | build count is increased when ever package is rebuild without changes e.g. dependency causes rebuild | 10:19 |
Sage | So currently we don't have any control what ends up to release of <version>-<release> in rpms | 10:20 |
Sage | Thus we (or I) don't care what reads in .changes file after the - mark if there is one | 10:20 |
lbt | ew | 10:21 |
Sage | There is bug about it and you can take 1 week course with lbt about the matter if you are interested ;) | 10:21 |
* lbt smelled the conversation from 4 tabs away | 10:21 | |
* w00t puts lbt back in his cage | 10:21 | |
* Sage run far far away | 10:21 | |
w00t | lbt: btw, can you take a look at COBS? I think it's a bit unhealthy | 10:22 |
Venemo | lbt, seen the new homescreen? | 10:22 |
lbt | Venemo: no | 10:22 |
sledges | xDDD | 10:22 |
lbt | w00t: OK | 10:22 |
w00t | I had an 'osc commit' hang for ages before erroring, and now my builds are taking forever to publish | 10:22 |
Venemo | lbt, http://kepfeltoltes.hu/120823/12080016_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg | 10:22 |
lbt | Venemo: nice | 10:23 |
sledges | so it means uploading tarballs with x.x.x-x versioning is angering the beast in the cage | 10:23 |
Venemo | thanks | 10:23 |
lbt | w00t: nothing obvious | 10:24 |
sledges | nice Venemo , nagyon szep! :)) | 10:24 |
Venemo | lbt, by the way, did you notice that "latest" is no longer the latest? https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/ | 10:24 |
Venemo | sledges, thanks :) | 10:24 |
lbt | Venemo: ;( | 10:24 |
Venemo | lbt, it actually tricked me into thinking it's latest, yesterday. | 10:24 |
Aard | Venemo: is that hacked meegotouch-home, or qml? | 10:24 |
Venemo | Aard, it's qml | 10:24 |
lbt | I look up at my backlog and glimpse infinity | 10:25 |
w00t | Aard: that's lipstick, which will be hitting devices RSN | 10:25 |
Venemo | Aard, it's the new home screen which builds on top of lipstick | 10:25 |
sledges | Venemo, your pix might be hyping the next jolla phone concept :)) | 10:25 |
lbt | who's got libnice? | 10:26 |
Aard | Venemo: is that system-ui on top, or rewrite? | 10:26 |
Venemo | Aard, unfortunately, it's just good old systemui | 10:26 |
Venemo | Aard, we haven't had the time to rewrite it yet | 10:26 |
lbt | Sage: | 10:26 |
Venemo | sledges, I don't see a problem with that | 10:26 |
lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=libnice&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared&repository=Mer_Core-next_armv6l | 10:26 |
lbt | ends with "wait" | 10:26 |
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sledges | me neither Venemo :)) | 10:27 |
lbt | qemu: uncaught target signal 5 (Trace/breakpoint trap) - core dumped | 10:27 |
Aard | Venemo: oh, no problem there. I was more worried the old systemui might make problems with lipstick | 10:27 |
lbt | w00t: I doubt that's your problem but I'll blame Sage anyway | 10:27 |
Aard | Venemo: for systemui it's useful to keep some compatibility apis, so I prefer not doing a hasty rewrite ;) | 10:27 |
Sage | lbt: :headdesk: | 10:28 |
w00t | Venemo: pressing a launcher icon under the tab bar is still launching it | 10:28 |
Venemo | w00t, meh. | 10:28 |
Sage | lbt: fixed | 10:28 |
lbt | Sage: quick :) | 10:28 |
Venemo | Aard, actually, all I needed to do is implement a mechanism for retrieveing the shared pixmap and calling a d-bus interface when clicked. the rest just works. :) | 10:28 |
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lbt | Sage: you know you have 6 jobs like that? | 10:29 |
Venemo | w00t, clipping should've fixed it. meh. | 10:29 |
Venemo | w00t, please add a MouseArea then | 10:30 |
Venemo | anyway, I'll grab something to eat and will be back a bit later | 10:30 |
lbt | w00t: please yell when you have something I can look at - I take it your publish has happened? | 10:32 |
w00t | lbt: yeah, it just took like, a while | 10:32 |
Sage | lbt: sry | 10:32 |
w00t | jobs stayed in "finished" for a few minutes which i'd never seen before when things were healthy | 10:32 |
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lbt | Sage: no problem at all - just FYI | 10:32 |
lbt | w00t: yeah, it's not stunningly busy either | 10:33 |
lbt | well, it is now | 10:33 |
sledges | ok, poweroff problem fixed; waiting: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/6041 :) | 10:38 |
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sledges | who is the best person to talk about future of dsme in Nemo, and if has one - it needs all runlevels call deps replaced by systemd ones | 10:39 |
Venemo | today is a busy day in Nemo bugzilla | 10:41 |
Venemo | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361 | 10:41 |
Merbot | Bug 361: task, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Please remove Mad Developer | 10:41 |
Venemo | faenil ^ | 10:42 |
sledges | (although /me still cannot find any confirmations that systemd is dropping runlevel[0-6].target`s , since they still do the job even if Mer's policy not to use runlevels | 10:42 |
Venemo | sledges, how about asking in #systemd | 10:43 |
faenil | Venemo, I was waiting for someone to confirm that MadDev could be removed, but you created it ;) | 10:43 |
Venemo | faenil, in my professional opinion, it should've been removed a long time ago | 10:43 |
sledges | well Stskeeps just said "we don't have runlevels" yesteday, no more information.. Sts? ;) | 10:43 |
faenil | Venemo, wonder why it hasn't...it shouldn't be a big task | 10:44 |
lbt | sledges: systemd | 10:44 |
lbt | it uses targets, not runlevels | 10:44 |
sledges | lbt, yes, but has legacy runlevel targets | 10:44 |
sledges | which are used by telinit, which dsme uses | 10:44 |
lbt | s/has/can have/ | 10:45 |
faenil | bbl :) | 10:45 |
sledges | last time i checked Mer:origin on OBS, systemd had those lbt :) | 10:45 |
Venemo | faenil ++ | 10:46 |
w00t | Sage: zypper up and try again? (lipstick 0.3.1, lipstick-colorful-home v0.0.2) | 10:46 |
Sage | w00t: moment | 10:48 |
w00t | :) | 10:48 |
* Sage feels like a test robot | 10:48 | |
w00t | hehe.. sorry.. just since you reported it, it's nice to have verification it's fixed on n900 | 10:49 |
w00t | it's fixed for me locally | 10:49 |
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Venemo | I don't even have an N900 to test on. | 10:51 |
w00t | me either | 10:52 |
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the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6042 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6042 | 10:54 |
Sage | w00t: feels nicer much nicer actually | 10:55 |
w00t | Sage: good :) | 10:55 |
Sage | I can't stat apps by accident and scrolling seems better | 10:55 |
Sage | much faster | 10:56 |
Sage | status bar is still hard to open but a bit better maybe, not sure. It might be just that I know how to click it now :) | 10:57 |
Venemo | Sage, status bar opening should work exactly the same as it did on meegotouchhome | 10:58 |
Xruxa | Venemo: looks lovely. And the snowflake background is gone too :) | 10:59 |
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w00t | Sage: any other showstoppers? :) | 11:00 |
Venemo | Xruxa, yup. :) thanks :) | 11:01 |
Venemo | Xruxa, later on, background will be customizable, right now it's hardcoded | 11:01 |
Xruxa | Venemo: I'm wodering about the app icons mix - where do they come from? | 11:03 |
Venemo | Xruxa, what do you mean by app icons mix? | 11:04 |
Xruxa | Venemo: the icons for apps - they do not seem to come all from Darko, but neither do they come all from Base theme. Just wondering where they come from. | 11:05 |
jukkaeklund_ | apps themselves? | 11:05 |
jukkaeklund_ | for the "3rd party" ones | 11:05 |
Xruxa | Like Browsers seems to have Darko icon, Accounts-UI base-theme one. Would have to look at the desktop files probably. | 11:06 |
Venemo | um, yeah. the theme searching logic is a bit buggy at the moment | 11:07 |
w00t | Xruxa: code for icon searching sucks, which probably isn't helping | 11:07 |
w00t | I think I'll work on that tonight | 11:07 |
Venemo | awesome | 11:08 |
Venemo | the truth is, I could hack on this thing forever | 11:08 |
Xruxa | cool | 11:08 |
Venemo | Sage, so you're sayin that the app launcher is no longer laggy crap, right? | 11:09 |
the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6042 Accepted promotion request | 11:10 |
w00t | Venemo: I have some fixes which will probably help launcher a bit more too | 11:10 |
Venemo | w00t, awesome | 11:10 |
Sage | Venemo: it is not that crappy anymore yes :) | 11:11 |
Venemo | w00t, well, most of the thing was caused by the way gridview works - trying to reload them every time. also, they were not loaded asynchronously | 11:11 |
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Venemo | Sage, so, still crappy, but not that crappy? | 11:11 |
Sage | Venemo: well, there is at times small lag, but not sure where it comes | 11:12 |
Venemo | Sage, hm. I'm not sure either | 11:12 |
* w00t hacks launcher | 11:12 | |
Venemo | Sage, but thanks a lot for testing :) | 11:12 |
Sage | err... it might be just that I'm launching apps accidently constantly | 11:12 |
Venemo | w00t, maybe you figured out by yourself already, but if you haven't: add DEFINES+=DEBUG_LAUNCHER to debug the launcher | 11:14 |
w00t | Venemo: hm? | 11:14 |
w00t | no, no | 11:15 |
w00t | this is QML | 11:15 |
w00t | I'm making a few improvements | 11:15 |
Sage | Venemo: couple of feature requests. Reordering of icons, groupping icons, | 11:15 |
w00t | Sage: bug for reordering already filed | 11:15 |
w00t | please file one for grouping | 11:15 |
Sage | k | 11:15 |
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Venemo | w00t, k | 11:19 |
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Venemo_N950 | chatter still works :) | 11:31 |
sledges | :) | 11:32 |
Venemo | by the way, is there any way to get an mp3 decoder plugin on Nemo? | 11:33 |
w00t | Venemo: see top two commits on lipstick-colorful-home | 11:33 |
Venemo | w00t, why did you remove the column? | 11:33 |
Venemo | man | 11:33 |
Venemo | I wanted to put something in there :P | 11:33 |
Sage | note to self: take food out of the oven before going to meeting | 11:34 |
w00t | the more objects you construct, the slower things are (both to construct and draw), if you have a purpose for it, add it back in when you add something to it :) | 11:34 |
Sage | turning it off isn't enough :P | 11:34 |
w00t | the LauncherItem change has more of an impact, anyway | 11:34 |
Venemo | yep | 11:35 |
Venemo | btw, that would've been the place for "favorite apps", had you not deleted it | 11:35 |
Venemo | other than this, I like your changes :) | 11:35 |
w00t | so the starred page wasn't for that? | 11:35 |
w00t | as that's the impression I got from the icon | 11:35 |
Venemo | the starred page is for widgets | 11:35 |
Venemo | yeah I wasn't quite sure what icon to choose | 11:36 |
Venemo | neither am I sure whether favorite apps should be in the app launcher or on the starred page | 11:36 |
Venemo | I thought I'd pick an option and see how it works out. then change if people don't like it :) | 11:37 |
Venemo | this is QML - meaning very easy to change. and also fun | 11:37 |
* w00t rolls another release | 11:37 | |
Venemo | :) | 11:37 |
w00t | I think we're ready to push this one | 11:37 |
Venemo | :) | 11:38 |
w00t | Sage: ok by you? | 11:38 |
Venemo | btw | 11:41 |
Venemo | I dislike the default font | 11:41 |
Venemo | any way to get rid of it? | 11:41 |
Sage | w00t: my n900 went mute so didn't have time to test it more :/ | 11:42 |
Sage | not sure what happened to that poor phone :P | 11:42 |
w00t | Sage: no functional changes past what you already tested, just optimized the launcher items a little | 11:43 |
Sage | w00t: I would say good to go then. | 11:45 |
Venemo | Sage, don't believe him. latest code has this in it: if (userName == "Sage) brickHisPhone(); | 11:45 |
Venemo | eh, missed a quotation mark | 11:46 |
w00t | so it'd fail to compile in obs, damn! | 11:46 |
* w00t fixes the patch ;) | 11:47 | |
Venemo | :D | 11:47 |
* Sage prepares reject button | 11:47 | |
Sage | lets see who has the last laught ;) | 11:47 |
* w00t makes sure to encrypt the javascript | 11:48 | |
faenil | hahaha | 11:49 |
Sage | oh, come on is charing broken on N900 or what | 11:53 |
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Venemo | Sage, new home screen does not update the status bar | 11:53 |
Sage | Venemo: yes, but I have cable attached :) | 11:53 |
Venemo | this is actually lipstick's fault (as it doesn't register for damage events) | 11:53 |
Venemo | w00t, are you still planning to fix our X server? | 11:54 |
w00t | well.. yes, but it's quite a job, so I'll need to find a few solid days to set aside to look into it | 11:55 |
Venemo | ok, I didn't mean to be pushy about it | 11:55 |
w00t | I don't know when I'll find time, at the moment | 11:56 |
w00t | Sage: keep an eye on https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340 | 11:56 |
Merbot | Bug 340: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Status bar: subscribe for damage events | 11:56 |
w00t | I guess we should fix that ASAP | 11:56 |
Venemo | w00t, there is a link to MTF code which shows how to do it | 11:56 |
Think | Hi. I am trying to gather some information about black screen bugs using applications in VirtualBox (298, 347). Applications where VKB is launched it causes the black screen. | 12:00 |
Stskeeps | Think: the issue is in mesa, ximage backend in gallium/llvmpipe doesn't do texture from pixmap | 12:00 |
Think | Yes, that it is stated in bug reports. | 12:01 |
Stskeeps | how much do you know about libX11? :) | 12:02 |
Think | And that issue is shown with VKB when it is launched and for example with Maps, Flickr, Music Shelf etc. also without VKB. | 12:02 |
Stskeeps | yes | 12:03 |
Think | Ok. | 12:03 |
w00t | Sage: SR 6043/6044 | 12:03 |
Stskeeps | there is already an implementation for this, for GLX | 12:03 |
Stskeeps | but not for EGL | 12:03 |
Sage | as my device went down almost burning I need to trust w00t about those final SR's :P | 12:04 |
w00t | that's a lot of responsibility | 12:04 |
* w00t prepares to evacuate to columbia | 12:05 | |
mgronbar | regarding #107, I have submited request in obs and also created pull request in github, what to do next with the bug? When it will be resolved Bugzilla. | 12:05 |
w00t | mgronbar: i'll try find time to look at it after lunch | 12:07 |
w00t | I have a bit of a backlog of reviews to tackle | 12:07 |
Stskeeps | mgronbar: generally when we submit a pull request or a gerrit merge or SR, we mark as resolved | 12:07 |
Stskeeps | then after time it'll be marked released, or repened | 12:07 |
mgronbar | w00t, StsKeeps: thanks. | 12:08 |
Sage | "We're sorry but the system is currently not able to handle your request in a reasonable time. Please try again later." w00t might take some time :) | 12:08 |
Sage | lbt: cobs acts up | 12:08 |
mgronbar | StsKeeps, so as I have done the pull request I can mark it resolved. | 12:09 |
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lbt | Sage: I see nothing generic | 12:13 |
lbt | "Error: Group 'bossbot' not found." | 12:14 |
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the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6046 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6046 | 12:19 |
the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6047 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6047 | 12:20 |
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w00t | Sage: you didn't accept 6043 | 12:28 |
faenil | wonder why onClicked is called, but onDoubleClicked isn't...mmm | 12:29 |
faenil | has anyone of you use onDoubleClicked in some Nemo app? | 12:30 |
faenil | used* | 12:30 |
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Sage | w00t: umm... Why doesn't OBS show that ot me anymore | 12:32 |
w00t | https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/6043 isn't there for you? | 12:33 |
w00t | ah, now accepted | 12:33 |
Sage | w00t: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/6048 <- I accepted it and forwarded already :) | 12:33 |
Sage | w00t: refresh your browser ;D | 12:33 |
w00t | it says "now" accepted, so I guess OBS was practicing weird caching voodoo | 12:33 |
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the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6046 Accepted promotion request | 13:13 |
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the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6048 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6048 | 13:16 |
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the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6047 Accepted promotion request | 13:20 |
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the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6048 Accepted promotion request | 13:35 |
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faenil | focus issues...hack coming, don't want to waste days debugging qml's focus fights | 13:58 |
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Sage | yey, lipstick in nemo repos. Use normal updates to get it to your own images. | 14:14 |
faenil | \o/ | 14:16 |
Sage | w00t: works fine | 14:16 |
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w00t | Sage: :) | 14:16 |
Sage | w00t: filemuncher should use invoker | 14:17 |
w00t | definitely likely | 14:17 |
faenil | yup | 14:17 |
faenil | so should qmlgallery | 14:18 |
Sage | as well as qmlgallery | 14:18 |
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Sage | w00t: on n950 also when clicking status bar it appears quite slowly | 14:22 |
Sage | there is ~2s delay when it appears after you clicked it | 14:22 |
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w00t | Sage: I have about the same delay in the settings application | 14:23 |
* sledges can't wait to try out | 14:23 | |
the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6050 Rejected promotion request | 14:23 |
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Sage | w00t: should the appliation thumbnails be all in portrait mode even when closed in landscape mode | 14:30 |
Sage | or minimized in landscape that is | 14:30 |
w00t | "even when closed"? | 14:30 |
Sage | s/closed/minimized/ | 14:31 |
w00t | not a new bug | 14:31 |
w00t | but I just realised I didn't file it | 14:31 |
* w00t does that now | 14:31 | |
w00t | qt components forces everything to portrait when minimised | 14:31 |
w00t | (and yes, that is very bloody irritating) | 14:31 |
Sage | e.g. Open photo in gallery in lanscape mode -> minimize app -> application thumbnail in portrait | 14:31 |
w00t | filed as #362 | 14:32 |
Sage | that flickering image of old window is annoying | 14:35 |
w00t | yeah.. the things I wouldn't do for an X expert to throw at that problem | 14:36 |
w00t | I'm confident I could fix it, given sufficient time, but I doubt I'll have time anywhere in the near future | 14:36 |
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crevetor | w00t: hey, remember you had problems getting the camera on your N950 to run ? | 14:39 |
w00t | crevetor: yes | 14:40 |
w00t | still do | 14:40 |
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w00t | .. | 14:40 |
w00t | did | 14:40 |
w00t | it is apparently working now | 14:40 |
* w00t wtfs | 14:40 | |
w00t | I suppose I can't really complain about bugs that solve themselves :) | 14:41 |
faenil | lol | 14:43 |
faenil | Sage, thanks | 14:43 |
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Sage | hmmp... haven't noted earlier. But to me it seems funny that the application has rounded corners on top even when there is status bar present | 14:49 |
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Sage | same in harmattan but still | 14:50 |
w00t | Sage: hm? | 14:50 |
w00t | all four corners are rounded | 14:50 |
w00t | it's intentional | 14:50 |
Sage | yes, well I was meaning that top corners could be 90 degrees not rounded as there is status bar on top of those | 14:51 |
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w00t | yes, but my point is the rounding is intentional | 14:51 |
Sage | I know :) | 14:51 |
w00t | the status bar isn't part of the application UI, it's part of the "device", at least I guess that's the justification | 14:52 |
w00t | honestly, I'd like to see us get rid of the status bar | 14:52 |
crevetor | w00t: well I had the same lens cover thing when I switched to lipstick. After restarting meego-handset-camera it worked | 14:52 |
w00t | especially in landscape mode, it takes up screen realestate for no real purpose | 14:52 |
w00t | crevetor: I restarted it, rebooted it a few times, etc, it made no effect - and at the time, I hadn't switched | 14:52 |
Sage | w00t: true | 14:52 |
crevetor | w00t: weird | 14:53 |
Sage | even the launcher/switcher view bar could be gone or somewhere hidden. Landscape view is a bit crowded | 14:53 |
w00t | oh, i'm sure we'll improve things | 14:54 |
the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6051 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6051 | 14:56 |
the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6051 Accepted promotion request | 15:04 |
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crevetor | w00t: where can I find the sources for lipstick ? | 15:24 |
w00t | nemo github | 15:25 |
crevetor | k thx | 15:25 |
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faenil | we need someone to take care of heliumreborn... | 15:29 |
faenil | any volunteer? :D | 15:29 |
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w00t | if you mean the review, I already said I'll get to it | 15:31 |
sledges | mgronbar was looking at its pinch zoom | 15:31 |
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crevetor | faenil: what do you mean by taking care of 6 | 15:31 |
faenil | crevetor, 6? | 15:32 |
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crevetor | faenil: I meant "?" | 15:32 |
faenil | w00t, nono, take your time ;) I meant an active contributor :) | 15:32 |
faenil | crevetor, ^ | 15:32 |
sledges | is helium poorly? | 15:33 |
faenil | it hasn't been updated in the last 6 months, and it's a critical app :) | 15:33 |
w00t | it has surprisingly few bugs filed | 15:34 |
w00t | so I hope if you're noticing problems, you're remembering to file them | 15:35 |
faenil | w00t, yeah...we're mostly ignoring it :/ | 15:35 |
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w00t | I file everything that needs to be done, you should be doing the same :) | 15:35 |
w00t | otherwise nobody will notice that it could be improved | 15:35 |
faenil | w00t, you right ;) I only remember it is slow at the moment :) | 15:36 |
faenil | w00t, haven't played with it much, I'll file bugs when I have a better look at it :) but in my quick look I noticed it wasn't very usable because of the lag | 15:37 |
crevetor | "Copyright (c) 2010 - 2011 France Telecom" huhu, I would never have thought I'd look at source code copyrighted by France Telecom (especially QML code) | 15:37 |
faenil | it should be from Orange Labs | 15:38 |
faenil | \o/ focus issues fixed...TODO list gets shorted :) | 15:39 |
faenil | shorter | 15:39 |
sledges | hi5 | 15:39 |
crevetor | faenil: orange is part of France Telecom | 15:40 |
faenil | crevetor, oh, who knew :) | 15:40 |
crevetor | faenil: french people ;) | 15:40 |
sledges | just like tmobile is all deutsche telekom :) | 15:40 |
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faenil | w00t, have you tried webkit2 in qt5? | 15:44 |
faenil | it should be a huge step forward in terms of lag | 15:44 |
w00t | no | 15:44 |
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faenil | web content lives in a separate process, that says everything :) | 15:48 |
faenil | UI thread can paint in freedom \o/ | 15:48 |
faenil | watching ScarletMotor's live presentation by Julien :) | 15:50 |
faenil | Julien Fourgeaud, for those of you who know him :) | 15:51 |
the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6052 Rejected promotion request | 15:52 |
crevetor | faenil: where are you watching it ? | 15:52 |
faenil | http://www.scarletmotors.com/ | 15:52 |
crevetor | easy enough ;_ | 15:52 |
crevetor | Dammit fingers. | 15:53 |
faenil | he's doing great :) | 15:56 |
the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6053 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6053 | 15:59 |
faenil | keynote finished :) great guy Julien :) | 16:21 |
faenil | bbl | 16:29 |
alterego | Damnit, missed it | 16:43 |
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Venemo_N9 | hey | 18:09 |
Venemo_N9 | what's up? | 18:10 |
w00t | Venemo_N9: good news | 18:13 |
w00t | I think I have a reasonable plan for making us the lockscreen | 18:13 |
* w00t currently has a desktop which refuses to maximise any window as a side effect of trying that experiment, but hey, details | 18:14 | |
Venemo_N9 | awesome | 18:15 |
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rozhkov | Sage: SR#6049 got stuck? | 18:28 |
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lpotter | who wants maximixed windows anyway | 18:43 |
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Sage | rozhkov: hmmp | 19:02 |
Sage | lbt: can you check the SR 6049 why it doesn't go forward? | 19:02 |
Sage | rozhkov: did you test that on N900, iirc there was problem with n900 and that part of sgx | 19:03 |
rozhkov | Sage: yes, installed on n900 today. works ok even if i plug tvout in | 19:04 |
Sage | ok | 19:04 |
the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6049 Rejected promotion request | 19:06 |
lbt | :) | 19:06 |
Sage | :P | 19:06 |
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the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6018 Rejected promotion request | 19:07 |
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rozhkov | No dsc file found? wth :) | 19:09 |
Sage | that is not the error the error comes later :) | 19:11 |
lbt | any others? | 19:11 |
rozhkov | ah.. i see | 19:11 |
Sage | xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx-207-notv.patch, xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx-245-disable-xf86XVFillKeyHelperPort.patch, xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx-245-last-notv.patch. are in obs but not listed as patches or sources | 19:11 |
Sage | so will not be included to src.rpm's thus a problem | 19:11 |
rozhkov | ok, got it | 19:11 |
lbt | there's no filter so I have 15 (slow) pages to check - not good if they're not blocked | 19:12 |
Sage | I don't know any other | 19:12 |
lbt | OK ... ta | 19:13 |
lbt | oh, systemd queston | 19:13 |
lbt | I have a bunch of 4 services which I'd like to occasionally start/stop as a group | 19:13 |
lbt | they're individually part of the default.target | 19:14 |
lbt | would I need to remove them from that and make a mygroup.target and make that part of default? | 19:14 |
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Sage | lbt: well, create own target and add default.target requiring that? | 19:21 |
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Venemo | Sage, out of curiosity, who is responsible for deciding what's added to nemo and what's removed from it? | 19:40 |
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Sage | Venemo: common understanding with the community I would say. E.g. feature request from community to bugzilla and who ever decides to implement them. | 20:18 |
Venemo | Sage: so who has the power to eg. remove mad-developer from Nemo? | 20:19 |
Sage | Venemo: anyone who makes the request doing do. | 20:19 |
Venemo | okay | 20:20 |
Sage | I'm reviewing the requests and then it is there pretty much :) | 20:20 |
Venemo | faenil and myself filed a bug about removing it | 20:20 |
Sage | I saw it yes, planning of the removal just didn't have time to do it yet, so anyone is free to do so atm. :) | 20:22 |
Venemo | how do I do that? | 20:22 |
Sage | Venemo: I'm getting CC from every nemo bug atm. so if it is filed I'll see it. | 20:22 |
Sage | Venemo: submit fix to pattern including the package and submit removal request of the package | 20:23 |
Venemo | I'm not sure what "pattern including the package" means, nor do I know where I should file a removel request | 20:24 |
Sage | Venemo: see package called pattern-utils in CE:Utils and osc help deleterequest | 20:25 |
Venemo | k | 20:27 |
* Sage updates the notes in pattern git a bit | 20:31 | |
Venemo | honestly, I have no idea about the whole thing now, but I'll try to look at it in a few days | 20:32 |
Sage | https://gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/package-groups/blobs/master/README <- very quickly done README so might contain errors :) | 20:37 |
Venemo | thanks :) | 20:37 |
Sage | in case of errors feel free to submit fixes towards those as well ;) | 20:37 |
Sage | ok, time to try to sleep. And yes I mean try. My throat hurts like hell still so probably very hard to get sleep. Should probably go to doctor tomorrow if this doesn't get any better. | 20:39 |
Sage | good night all | 20:39 |
Venemo | good night to you too Sage :) | 20:40 |
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Venemo | + speedy recovery! | 20:40 |
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faenil | I'm back :) | 21:22 |
Venemo | hey faenil :) | 21:39 |
faenil | yo | 21:39 |
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