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| special | it's really easy to kill a n950 battery by disabling wifi power saving mode. | 03:10 |
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| Stskeeps | hello Gary :) | 08:28 |
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| Guest76762 | Hello | 08:28 |
| Guest76762 | I got a problem when I flash my n950 in dual bool mode,I don't know for sure does anyone encounter the same problem. After flash moslo,rebooting, it displays "Re-partitioning failed! you might be in trouble"....... | 08:31 |
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| Andy80 | if I install Nemo on my N950 without using dual boot, I can remove it any time and restore the original Harmattan-N950 fw? | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | AFAIK | 09:29 |
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| Andy80 | Stskeeps: thanks :) | 09:57 |
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| matthalm | Hello, does somebody know who owns the source code of the context kit battery plugin for N900 - I found the binary only? Nokia or Jollamobile perhaps? | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | matthalm: it's binary only sadly, it had to link against libbmeipc and headers - it was done as part of nokia's effort into meego for n900 | 10:08 |
| matthalm | So Nokia provided the binary? | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 10:08 |
| matthalm | Thanks for info! | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | many of us in nemo used to be in that team but we no longer have access to that | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=libopenbme&project=home%3Aw00t%3Abranches%3AProject%3AMTF%3AUX exists | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | and people are using that for n950/n9 | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | as there was made a libbme 'replacement' for libbmeipc back then | 10:10 |
| matthalm | 'll take a llook into libopenbme and see if that could be used with (or modified for) N900 also | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-device-adaptation/n900_libbme/trees/master | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | might be for n900 | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | we didn't have much time to work on it after feb11 so.. | 10:12 |
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| faenil | good morning :) | 10:21 |
| faenil | 2 days at the beach...got sunburnt... | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | wb faenil :) | 10:21 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, thx :) what happened in the meanwhile ? :) | 10:22 |
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| faenil | I've read w00t kinda fixed the flickering bug | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: business as usual | 10:24 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, read you got 200 CVs from ex-Nokians last week :) that's cool | 10:25 |
| Stskeeps | eh? | 10:25 |
| Stskeeps | where did you read that? | 10:25 |
| faenil | w8 | 10:25 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, http://mynokiablog.com/2012/08/03/mnb-rg-jolla-aggressively-trying-to-grow-in-finland/ | 10:28 |
| faenil | "Jolla just organized a recruiting event in Oulu. It was packed of to-be-ex-Nokians (hundreds of them), and they received more than 200 CVs during that day." | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | ah, fair enough | 10:28 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, so is it true or is it not? :D | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | you probably know i can't comment on that, but the oulu thing is real | 10:31 |
| faenil | ok ;) | 10:33 |
| faenil | bbl | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | a lot of good talent suddenly out of work, it's such a shame.. i really hope to see very interesting startups in the future | 10:34 |
| alterego | I don't remember being told about this event :) | 10:36 |
| alterego | It's a lot of people to be made redundant. But I guess they're lucky in that they're skilled. | 10:37 |
| mike7b4 | Stskeeps the qt team should startup trolltech again and keep it open of many.. | 10:37 |
| alterego | And just because Nokia are failing in this market, doesn't mean that the market is bad. Mobility is still very much on the up. | 10:38 |
| alterego | mike7b4: Qt is open :P | 10:38 |
| mike7b4 | yes but I mean about new companys foe all exnokias | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | mike7b4: it's not a very good business model :) | 10:39 |
| alterego | Qt is open governance now, which is good. Hopefully companies like Intel and RIM will contribute to that project. | 10:40 |
| alterego | Though as RIMs Cascades and their declarative APIs are closed, I'm not holding my breath for them. | 10:40 |
| mike7b4 | RIM soon Microsoft too it seems... | 10:41 |
| alterego | I doubt that. | 10:42 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: I had a 10 minute play with a Nokia wired headset and the N950 | 10:44 |
| mike7b4 | ok isnt they also running out of money | 10:44 |
| mike7b4 | ? | 10:44 |
| alterego | I was suprised that it seems to be fully recognised by the kernel :D | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: excellent | 10:44 |
| alterego | And the buttons trigger the keyboard event system. So we just need to use loadkeys to map those buttons to something sane | 10:44 |
| alterego | even ohmd recognised it to a degree, then complained about some prolog error. | 10:45 |
| alterego | ohmd is what will need to be sorted to fix the automatic audio routing. | 10:46 |
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| alterego | I reckon mapping the keys to the appropriate media keys that you'd get on those multimedia keyboards. | 10:49 |
| Andy80 | before executing this: sudo flasher -a moslo-rootfs-1.2011.34-2_RM680-OEM1-916_0.0.13-12.1.bin -L usr/share/moslo/moslo.img -f -R I do have to power off the device, execute the command and connect the cable... right? | 10:49 |
| Andy80 | hi Venemo :) | 10:50 |
| alterego | Though not sure where the dial button would fit there. | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | Andy80: right | 10:50 |
| Andy80 | Stskeeps: thanks | 10:51 |
| rcg | Venemo, is lipstick your baby? | 10:52 |
| alterego | Has anyone spoken to MohammadAG about getting his open media player on nemo? | 10:52 |
| rcg | hi all btw :) | 10:53 |
| alterego | Hi rcg | 10:54 |
| alterego | rcg: lipstick was originally w00ts work at creating a meego-home without meego-touch-framework, I wrote the original prototype QML interface to show case it. Now Venemo is picking it up where we left off and making it more functional and user friendly. :) | 10:54 |
| rcg | alterego, cool | 10:55 |
| rcg | personally, i really like the lipstick approach | 10:55 |
| alterego | Well, hopefully it'll replace meegotouch-home soon. | 10:55 |
| rcg | great :) | 10:55 |
| rcg | that's what my next question would have been ;) | 10:55 |
| rcg | is there any guide on how to enable it or even make it the default? | 10:57 |
| alterego | Well, Venemo should have a decent set up by now for getting it running, otherwise we'd need a new xdg autostart file if one isn't there. Then packaging would need to deprecate meegotouch-home and then it should just be a matter of zypper install lipstick | 10:58 |
| rcg | alright, sounds straight forward.. maybe i can give it a try this weekend :) | 10:59 |
| rcg | but that's a big "maybe" | 10:59 |
| rcg | i assume the source if somewhere like github and an obs build also exists? | 10:59 |
| rcg | but well.. i think i can figure that out myself as well | 10:59 |
| rcg | alterego, thanks for the info so far :) | 11:00 |
| alterego | np | 11:00 |
| Venemo | hi | 11:04 |
| Venemo | sorry, I haven't look at the irc window | 11:05 |
| Venemo | rcg, lipstick is w00t's baby, but unfortunately he was a busy parent, so alterego gave it some better clothes some time ago, and now I'm caring about it. | 11:05 |
| Venemo | rcg, I don't yet feel that it's ready to be packaged. in fact, the work has just begun :) | 11:06 |
| rcg | Venemo, right :) | 11:07 |
| rcg | Venemo, so, what are the major issues? | 11:07 |
| Venemo | basically you need to compile it in your Mer SDK and then put it on the device and then you would need to add that xdg file alterego talked about | 11:07 |
| rcg | i see | 11:07 |
| Venemo | rcg, major issue is that I haven't had a cup of tea today yet. | 11:07 |
| rcg | hehe, right | 11:08 |
| alterego | Venemo: I don't mind doing the packaging xdg stuff for you. I've done it a lot ;) | 11:08 |
| rcg | gotta go afk right now | 11:08 |
| rcg | bbl | 11:08 |
| Venemo | alterego, maybe you wouldn't mind guiding me through it tomorrow maybe? :) | 11:09 |
| Andy80 | has the Nemo battery icon any problem? I mean... it was 97% on Harmattan, I just installed Nemo, I boot into Nemo and now it shows 0% :\ | 11:09 |
| Venemo | Andy80, yes, the indicator is not working | 11:09 |
| Venemo | alterego, I can write .spec files. but I could use a guide through OBS. | 11:10 |
| alterego | Venemo: sure | 11:10 |
| Venemo | :) | 11:10 |
| Venemo | brb | 11:11 |
| Andy80 | Venemo: thanks | 11:11 |
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| faenil | Andy80, w00t tried to fix the battery indicator thing, he now has what it seems to be a working battery level indicator, but it doesn't show the charging status (at least this is the last update I had) | 12:07 |
| faenil | anyway, I'm back D: | 12:07 |
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| Andy80 | faenil: welcome back :) I'll be away now ;) need to go to supermarket and wash dishes :P see you later! | 12:12 |
| faenil | ahahah have fun! I've just been at the supermarket :P | 12:13 |
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| sivang | Stskeeps: we don't have infra section for nemo's bugzilla, I filed this bug as well: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317 , and in the meanwhile , I filed this one against what I could find that would make the most sense, https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316 | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:19 |
| faenil | Sage, any deadline for the next nemo release? | 12:21 |
| sivang | hey faenil :) | 12:22 |
| faenil | hey sivang :) I don't remember what did we talk about last time? | 12:23 |
| faenil | was it 3d graphics? or qml? | 12:23 |
| sivang | faenil: we seem to be able to talk about so many things each time :) | 12:23 |
| faenil | sivang, :) | 12:24 |
| sivang | faenil: I think QQuickItem , was it in Berlin? | 12:24 |
| sivang | faenil: for crowd quick client | 12:24 |
| faenil | mmm no :) | 12:24 |
| faenil | were you at QtDD11? | 12:24 |
| sivang | oh | 12:24 |
| sivang | ops | 12:24 |
| sivang | faenil: okay, so that's not you, I was not at DD11 | 12:24 |
| faenil | yeah I think we've never met :) but we talked about qml via chat many times :) | 12:25 |
| faenil | sivang, working on anything nemo related? | 12:28 |
| sivang | faenil: yes, we have :) I'm interested in seeing about documentation, yes | 12:31 |
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| mike7b4athome | hmm any6onme known what NFC stack is used in Harmattan is it open? | 13:13 |
| Stskeeps | s | 13:13 |
| alterego | mike7b4athome: it's not open | 13:14 |
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| mike7b4athome | hmm found some PDF about one NFC stack from openbossa from 2011 but it seems dead now :( the other I found seems focus on Android :( | 13:28 |
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| Venemo_N9 | meh, my ISP screwed me again | 13:54 |
| Venemo_N9 | w00t, would you mind if I reimplemented some of the stuff in lipstick? | 13:55 |
| Venemo_N9 | there's quite some code (probably not authored by you) that can be made better | 13:56 |
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| Venemo_N9 | I first intended only to refactor some of that code, but when I noticed that some of it just doesn't make any sense at all, I decided to reimplement. | 14:03 |
| faenil | yo javispedro :) | 14:03 |
| javispedro | hello | 14:03 |
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| Andy80 | is the username for bugs.nemomobile.org the same I use on meego.com or do I need a new one? | 14:32 |
| Venemo_N9 | Andy80, it integrates with merproject.org | 14:33 |
| Venemo_N9 | so yes, new one is needed | 14:33 |
| Andy80 | Venemo_N9: thanks :) | 14:34 |
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| Andy80 | does it happen to anyone else that QmlGallery (I suppose it's the gallery to display images) just show a white screen without anything else? | 15:10 |
| Venemo_N9 | Andy80, zypper refresh; zypper update | 15:11 |
| Venemo_N9 | Andy80, if you have any further issues, faenil is the man behind it | 15:12 |
| Andy80 | Venemo_N9: I try thanks :) | 15:12 |
| faenil | Andy80, update packages | 15:12 |
| faenil | that's the very old gallery | 15:12 |
| faenil | alpha I made in January | 15:12 |
| faenil | and was mainly done for the pinching algo, the UI sucks there :) | 15:13 |
| Venemo_N9 | faenil, after the update it becomes a big black rectangle instead of white | 15:13 |
| faenil | new one is better :) still lots of work to be done, I'm about to push a PR | 15:13 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, yes I know, changes already here in my local repo, haven't pushed yet because I'm finishing some things ;) | 15:13 |
| Venemo_N9 | perhaps because I don't have any actual images on the device | 15:14 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, yes that's it of course ;) | 15:14 |
| faenil | nothing to show | 15:14 |
| Andy80 | faenil: uhm... so you're already working to this https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193 ? | 15:16 |
| faenil | Andy80, nope, you can see bugs I'm working on because you'll see there's my name in the "Assigned To" field | 15:17 |
| Venemo_N9 | faenil, why don't you show a message then? | 15:17 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, as I already said, I already have it fixed in my local repo, it just isn't pushed yet ;) | 15:18 |
| Venemo_N9 | :) | 15:18 |
| Venemo_N9 | ok, sorry | 15:18 |
| faenil | np ;) | 15:18 |
| Andy80 | faenil: I know this, but... you have just said that you haven't pushed sources since a lot of time, so it would be useless for me to get latest sources and working on them... don't you find? | 15:18 |
| faenil | there are a lot of things which are easy to fix/add, it's just that I don't have inifinite time :D special also works on it when he has some spare time ;) | 15:19 |
| faenil | Andy80, I'll push changes in a hour or so ;) | 15:19 |
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| Andy80 | faenil: do your changes include the possibility to delete an image or can I pick that bug and assign it to me? | 15:20 |
| faenil | Andy80, are you guys reading what I write? :D | 15:20 |
| faenil | <faenil> Andy80, nope, you can see bugs I'm working on because you'll see there's my name in the "Assigned To" field | 15:20 |
| faenil | :D | 15:20 |
| Andy80 | I don't know what kind of changes you did -.- | 15:21 |
| Andy80 | ok, I assign it to me, thanks | 15:21 |
| faenil | np :) any help is appreciated :D | 15:21 |
| Venemo_N9 | faenil :) | 15:23 |
| Venemo_N9 | I usually push often. too paranoid of losing the code. :) | 15:24 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, yeah I should push more often, it's just that I had to rewrite most of the scrolling list view :) lost two days trying to get things working with ListView and GridView, they just weren't up to the task... | 15:29 |
| faenil | special said he'll rewrite it again when he has time to make it fit an idea he has in mind :) | 15:31 |
| Venemo_N9 | :) | 15:32 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, I forgot I still have to try fixing a thing before pushing...mmm hope this won't take long | 15:41 |
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| faenil | should be fixed now :) | 15:56 |
| faenil | is anyone alive in here ? :D | 15:56 |
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| faenil | long commit msg xD | 16:35 |
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| faenil | w00t, Pull Request sent :) give it a look when you have some time ;) I'll be back in 5-6 hours | 17:41 |
| faenil | bbl guys :) | 17:41 |
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| special | faenil: will review it properly later today, probably | 18:05 |
| matthalm | Stskeeps: Yes, http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-device-adaptation/n900_libbme/trees/master seems to be for n900. But doesn't quite work as is. After some exploratory changes, seems to be suitable for getting basic battery-related data. | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | matthalm: yeah, very limited messages | 18:08 |
| matthalm | Actually added definition of a new message for getting the remaining capacity. | 18:10 |
| Venemo | what the f*** are the qt guys thinking? | 18:20 |
| Venemo | still no c++11 lambda support | 18:20 |
| Venemo | how annoying is this? | 18:20 |
| ajalkane | Venemo: Qt5 is supposed to have lambda support | 18:21 |
| Venemo | ajalkane, Qt Creator still doesn't | 18:22 |
| ajalkane | Even if built from sources? | 18:23 |
| Venemo | I haven't checked that. | 18:23 |
| ajalkane | I do remember some posting about QtCreator's improved c++11 support, but I don't remember if the current releases had proper lambda support... but I think some kind of support should be there. | 18:24 |
| Venemo | but, srsly, the stuff I'm working on now, I could write in one line in C#. I have to write loops in loops in C++... (with lambdas and intelligent use of std::find_if it would be one line too) | 18:24 |
| ajalkane | Yeah C++ is inconvenient like that in some ways. I haven't actually digged into c++11 to have an opinion how much it lessens the pain. | 18:25 |
| Venemo | C++ would be convenient if I could use lambdas | 18:25 |
| ajalkane | Lambdas would go a long way. I remember missing them especially with the stl library. Hasn't been such a problem with Qt. | 18:26 |
| Venemo | anyway, I could use std::find_if however I just can't figure out how the iterators of qlist work... meh. | 18:27 |
| Venemo | ok | 18:40 |
| Venemo | got it now :) | 18:40 |
| Andy80 | how much time does the N950 battery last with Nemo? I left mine on the desk for a couple of hours and now it's off and battery is gone :( | 18:45 |
| Andy80 | Venemo: where can I find the code that faenil pushed? | 18:46 |
| ajalkane | Andy80: well mine's been on for about 8 hours in Nemo, so I guess something went wrong with your instance | 18:46 |
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| Andy80 | ajalkane: well... I'll attach on charger | 18:49 |
| Andy80 | mmm | 18:51 |
| Andy80 | bad sign :( | 18:52 |
| Venemo | Andy80, I have no idea | 18:52 |
| Andy80 | I've attached to charger... it startet booting | 18:52 |
| ajalkane | Andy80: normal | 18:52 |
| Andy80 | and now there is the MOSLO screem that says | 18:52 |
| Venemo | Andy80, about either of your questions. | 18:52 |
| ajalkane | when you've installed multiboot | 18:52 |
| Andy80 | "you can telnet into 192.168.2.15" | 18:52 |
| Andy80 | yeah but it's not going further | 18:52 |
| Venemo | actually I think I left mine for a night or so on with Nemo and it survived | 18:52 |
| ajalkane | I don't know if it charges on the MOSLO boot screen. I've charged in Harmattan. | 18:53 |
| ajalkane | Remove the charger and you get boot options | 18:53 |
| Andy80 | ajalkane: but the battery is completly over... how can I boot with no battery? | 18:53 |
| ajalkane | Just remove it for long enough to start boot into harmattan | 18:53 |
| ajalkane | you can plug it in after that | 18:54 |
| Andy80 | let me try | 18:54 |
| Andy80 | Venemo: about the other question... faenil pushed changes to QML Gallery... where is usually pushed the code of Nemo? | 18:55 |
| Andy80 | I suppose there is a common repository... | 18:55 |
| Venemo | Andy80, the project is at https://github.com/nemomobile/ | 18:56 |
| Venemo | I'm not sure if qmlgallery is there or not | 18:57 |
| Andy80 | Venemo: it should be here https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlgallery/pull/4 | 19:00 |
| Andy80 | but I don't know if his code has already been merged or not... | 19:01 |
| Andy80 | I don't know what is a PULL request..... is it related to a MERGE request? | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | yes, similar | 19:02 |
| Andy80 | well... they could have called it "merge" then :P | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | then people would get gitorious flashbacks ;) | 19:03 |
| Andy80 | Stskeeps: is it called "merge request" even on Launchpad.net :P | 19:04 |
| Andy80 | and, after all, is a "merge" that faenil requested... | 19:04 |
| Andy80 | anyway... I will just grab faenil code :) | 19:05 |
| ajalkane | Pull request is kind of logical in the context of git. You're requesting that the recipient "pulls" the changes you've done into his repository. | 19:07 |
| ajalkane | I'm not going to pretend that it didn't confuse me also :P | 19:07 |
| Andy80 | ;) | 19:10 |
| Venemo | out of curiosity. I know people dislike GPL 3 because of something. forgot what it is. is there anything against LGPL v3 too? | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: let me show you a matrix.. | 19:14 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, show me? :) | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main#GPL_Compatibility_Matrix | 19:14 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, omg | 19:16 |
| Venemo | I now hate lawyers even more | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | well | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | this is just gpl | 19:17 |
| Venemo | :D | 19:20 |
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| Andy80 | I love GitHub + fork: https://github.com/andreagrandi/qmlgallery :) | 19:23 |
| Venemo | w00t, ping | 19:32 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5411 Rejected promotion request | 19:41 |
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| Andy80 | damn me... I forked the wrong branch... how do I fork a different (not master) branch in GitHub? | 20:39 |
| Andy80 | for example I want this branch https://github.com/faenil/qmlgallery/tree/newfeatures | 20:39 |
| Andy80 | not the master... but using "Fork" in GitHub forked me the master | 20:39 |
| Venemo | on your local copy, | 20:40 |
| Venemo | git checkout newfeatures | 20:40 |
| Venemo | ;) | 20:40 |
| Venemo | Andy80, ^ | 20:40 |
| Andy80 | andrea@andrea-1215P:~/Documents/qmlgallery$ git checkout newfeatures | 20:42 |
| Andy80 | Branch newfeatures set up to track remote branch newfeatures from origin. | 20:42 |
| Andy80 | Switched to a new branch 'newfeatures' | 20:42 |
| Andy80 | is it ok? | 20:42 |
| Andy80 | because eecuting: git branches, it should display all branches but there was only master | 20:43 |
| Andy80 | git branch, sorry | 20:43 |
| Venemo | indeed | 20:46 |
| Venemo | for some obscure reason the branch doesn't get initialized until you switch to it | 20:47 |
| Venemo | or I dunno | 20:47 |
| Andy80 | ah ok | 20:48 |
| Andy80 | anyway... I've verified one of the commit, it's here | 20:48 |
| Andy80 | so I have it | 20:48 |
| Venemo | :) | 20:51 |
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