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| Venemo_ | ok, time to sleep now | 02:35 |
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| Sage | \o/ My main N9 (with harmattan in it) doesn't go to network anymore.. Rebooted, charged etc. no effect. | 08:37 |
| dm8tbr | :/ | 08:41 |
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| Sage | need to check sim on other device first before declaring my phone broken. Maybe operator did something stupid :) | 08:45 |
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| msalmela | Hello, test | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | test successful | 09:30 |
| faenil | good morning! :D | 10:07 |
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| mallat | hello all | 10:29 |
| matthalm | Hello mallat | 10:30 |
| mallat | I wanted to finish something today I started last weekend but ran into a problem. The package I'd want to add to (nemo-qml-plugins) has commits in git master that are not in the OBS tarball. Thus a patch against master wont build in OBS | 10:31 |
| mallat | Are the packages built automatically periodically or how it works? | 10:32 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm, just push to github and it should get integratef | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | d | 10:34 |
| Venemo | morning | 10:34 |
| mallat | maybe I'm missing something, but https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=nemo-qml-plugins&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared lists files 12 days old while the git log shows changes on Friday | 10:35 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, so nobody integrated last snapshot | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | who is regular committer? | 10:37 |
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| Venemo | w00t, ping | 10:39 |
| alterego | How can I find out what RPM an arbitrary file belongs to? | 10:46 |
| Venemo | zypper wp "/usr/whateer/arbitraryfile" | 10:46 |
| alterego | Ah, awesome. | 10:47 |
| Venemo | at least IIRC 'zypper wp' is the counterpart of 'yum whatprovides' | 10:47 |
| alterego | Yeajh | 10:47 |
| alterego | Sounds familiar. | 10:47 |
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| Venemo | alterego, do you know anything about w00t's accounts UI work? | 10:48 |
| alterego | From what I remember it's just a wrapper for the console tool. | 10:49 |
| Venemo | and where is the console tool? | 10:49 |
| alterego | Not sure. | 10:50 |
| alterego | I think it's in telepathy-mission-control | 10:50 |
| alterego | Something like mc-tool maybe. | 10:50 |
| w00t | yes, mc-tool | 10:51 |
| Venemo | w00t, so is it for adding telepathy accounts only? | 10:51 |
| w00t | yes | 10:52 |
| w00t | it's not a final solution | 10:52 |
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| sp3000 | Venemo: does wp always work? I've seen a world where it found some things by basename, some by path, some not at all, something like that | 11:04 |
| * sp3000 resorted to a thing that ate filelists | 11:04 | |
| Venemo | sp3000, I don't know | 11:04 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5413 Rejected promotion request | 11:41 |
| alterego | wtf .. | 11:41 |
| alterego | Sage: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/5413 | 11:42 |
| alterego | "No dsc file found" ? | 11:42 |
| lbt | no-one told you? | 11:44 |
| lbt | we're moving to .debs now | 11:44 |
| lbt | try and keep up... | 11:44 |
| alterego | lol | 11:46 |
| alterego | lbt: any ideas what's wrong there? It must be an old package that hasn't been updated since boss. | 11:46 |
| alterego | Though July 16 isn't that old .. | 11:47 |
| lbt | that really doesn't make sense | 11:47 |
| lbt | phaeron's gone to sleep too | 11:47 |
| alterego | Oh well, hopefully someone can pick it up soon. | 11:48 |
| alterego | No rush, just a couple of packages updated to support the Nokia wired headsets in the N950 | 11:48 |
| alterego | \ N9 | 11:48 |
| faenil | w00t, have you looked into the PR for qmlgallery by any chance? | 11:48 |
| lbt | yep http://autodoc.meego.com/boss/processes/CE/Adaptation/N950-N9/ is the process being used | 11:52 |
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| lbt | it's not supposed to run the one that failed...? | 11:52 |
| * alterego shrugs | 11:59 | |
| alterego | not my package :) | 11:59 |
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| alterego | lbt: is there a nice way to make mer-sdk-chroot mount, mount tmpfs on /var/tmp/oscbuild ? | 12:03 |
| Aard | alterego: use lxc? ;) | 12:04 |
| alterego | lxc? | 12:04 |
| alterego | linux containers aye .. | 12:05 |
| alterego | Never heard of it :P | 12:05 |
| alterego | Sounds like vz | 12:06 |
| alterego | virtuozo, openvz or whatever it is. | 12:06 |
| Aard | kind of, just in more sane, and without messing around in the kernel yourself | 12:06 |
| lbt | https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=231 | 12:14 |
| lbt | FYI | 12:14 |
| * alterego should probably shower soon | 12:18 | |
| msalmela | I'm trying to build mer image, but I get this during mic: Error <creator>: URLGrabber error: http://repo.pub.meego.com/releases/Mer-Tools/5.1.0/builds/i486/packages/repodata/repomd.xml | 12:24 |
| lbt | msalmela: that sounds like you're trying to build an SDK image | 12:37 |
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| msalmela | lbt: That's true, I was following instructions on https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Building_an_image | 12:42 |
| lbt | OK - just checking :) | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | so the instructions there fail? | 12:48 |
| lbt | msalmela: can you pastebin the command and output ? | 12:50 |
| msalmela | sudo mic create fs mer-sdk-x86-chroot-latest.ks -o . --pkgmgr=yum --arch i486 --compress-disk-image=tar.bz2 /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mic/3rdparty/pykickstart/commands/repo.py:177: UserWarning: A repo with the name mer-cross-tools has already been defined. warnings.warn(_("A repo with the name %s has already been defined.") % rd.name) Info: Retrieving repo metadata: Error <creator>: URLGrabber error: http://repo.pub. | 12:50 |
| msalmela | Sorry, I'll try agoin | 12:50 |
| msalmela | sudo mic create fs mer-sdk-x86-chroot-latest.ks -o . --pkgmgr=yum --arch i486 --compress-disk-image=tar.bz2 | 12:51 |
| msalmela | /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mic/3rdparty/pykickstart/commands/repo.py:177: UserWarning: A repo with the name mer-cross-tools has already been defined. | 12:51 |
| lbt | use a pastebin please | 12:51 |
| lbt | eg gist.github.com | 12:52 |
| msalmela | Ok: does this work https://gist.github.com/3264583 | 12:54 |
| lbt | hmm | 12:54 |
| lbt | and yet that url is correct | 12:54 |
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| lbt | can you curl it from the SDK ? | 12:54 |
| msalmela | Not inside SDK, works outside. | 12:58 |
| lbt | check what /etc/resolv.conf links to in SDK | 13:04 |
| lbt | should be /parentroot/etc/resolv.conf | 13:04 |
| lbt | that may in turn be a symlink to /var/run/resolv.conf | 13:05 |
| lbt | that could be the issue | 13:05 |
| lbt | (fixed in next SDK btw) | 13:05 |
| lbt | to fix, link to /parentroot/var/run/resolv.conf (or whatever it is) | 13:05 |
| lbt | that should give you tcp in the SDK | 13:05 |
| * lbt -> shower ... | 13:06 | |
| lbt | ok - I assume that worked then ... -> Tango ... bbiab | 13:22 |
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| faenil | special, ping | 13:45 |
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| faenil | mm am I the lonely knight today? :D | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | uhhuh | 14:08 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, any news about coming nemo releases? Sage never got back to me :) | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | msalmela: does it work better now? | 14:13 |
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| faenil | :( | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: soon enough.. new mer release coming | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | i think that's what he's waitng for | 14:41 |
| faenil | ok I see | 14:41 |
| faenil | do you know if Robin is coming online today? | 14:42 |
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| Stskeeps | dunno | 14:43 |
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| Venemo_N9 | hey | 15:02 |
| faenil | hey Venemo_N9 | 15:02 |
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| Venemo_N9 | what's up faenil? :) | 15:03 |
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| faenil | Venemo_N9, waiting for someone to merge my Pull Request :) I could do that myself, but I'd rather wait someone else to review it ;) just to be sure | 15:04 |
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| Venemo_N9 | lol faenil | 15:08 |
| Venemo_N9 | how can someone become part of the team? | 15:09 |
| faenil | what do you mean? | 15:11 |
| faenil | you mean to be able to accept pull requests? | 15:11 |
| Venemo_N9 | yes, that sort of thing | 15:12 |
| Venemo_N9 | and in general too | 15:12 |
| faenil | I think you have to be part of "developers team" on github | 15:13 |
| Venemo_N9 | yes, that much I know | 15:13 |
| Venemo_N9 | the question wasn't a technical one | 15:13 |
| faenil | oh I see...don't know about burocracy, I think someone put me into that groupo long time ago | 15:14 |
| Venemo_N9 | okay | 15:20 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, maybe you can help him? | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | ask w00t | 15:23 |
| faenil | yeah w00t would be better, but he seems to be busy today :) | 15:25 |
| w00t | I'll be more around later, I'm not really around much atm | 15:30 |
| w00t | Venemo_N9: there's not really any hard policy, apart from being sane, contributing good stuff on a regular basis and wanting access | 15:31 |
| faenil | w00t, ok, I'll be waiting, will be here for 2 more hours before I have to leave | 15:35 |
| faenil | w00t, do you think you'll have some time before I leave? | 15:37 |
| faenil | just to review my PR ;) | 15:37 |
| faenil | hope he will :P | 15:46 |
| Venemo_N9 | okay thank you w00t | 15:47 |
| w00t | faenil: special said he'll review it, so wait for him | 15:52 |
| faenil | w00t, ok thanks ;) | 15:54 |
| Venemo_N9 | hey Andy80 | 15:59 |
| Venemo_N9 | any luck with git? | 15:59 |
| Andy80 | Venemo_N9: hi! | 16:01 |
| Andy80 | Venemo_N9: yeah, git is ok, I'm just "lost" with all required steps to have a working MerSDK env | 16:01 |
| Andy80 | I'm installing SDB2 right now.. | 16:02 |
| msalmela | Stskeeps: Sorry, I was away for a while. I noticed that /etc/resolv.conf and /parentroot/etc/resolv.conf have same content. I'll study this briefly and get back. | 16:04 |
| msalmela | The curl hangs on SDK and outside it works OK | 16:07 |
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| Stskeeps | are you behind a proxy? | 16:11 |
| msalmela | Most probably, inside Nokia premises | 16:13 |
| msalmela | Voila, defined proxy and curl test worked. Let's try the compilation | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 16:18 |
| alterego | w00t: how close are you from having a declarative plugin I can use to get contact from phone numbers? | 16:23 |
| msalmela | No luck on mic, still the same error. Is there option for verbose and where I should put it | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | mic -dv | 16:24 |
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| msalmela | Stskeeps: Does this https://gist.github.com/3265777 reveal anything about the mic urlgrabber error? | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | msalmela: see if https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/OSDev/MIC#How_to_set_proxy | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | helps any | 16:39 |
| msalmela | I'll do that | 16:39 |
| alterego | Is it better to use annotated tags, or lightweight tags in git for version tags? | 16:40 |
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| alterego | Think I'll just do a lightweight one. | 16:44 |
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| Venemo_N9 | I disapprove of this weather. | 16:56 |
| Venemo_N9 | it feels like being cooked alive | 16:57 |
| alterego | Kinda cold here | 16:58 |
| Venemo_N9 | ha! | 16:58 |
| Venemo_N9 | where's that? | 16:58 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5415 Rejected promotion request | 16:58 |
| alterego | Are you bloody kidding .. | 16:58 |
| Venemo_N9 | no I'm not | 16:59 |
| Venemo_N9 | by the way, I have a question about packaging shared libraries | 17:00 |
| Venemo_N9 | make outputs a single .so file. how do I get .so.0 and .so.0.x files into the package? | 17:01 |
| Venemo_N9 | I vaguely recall them being symlinks but I forgot the details | 17:02 |
| Venemo_N9 | do you guys know something about this? | 17:03 |
| Stskeeps | check existing libs | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | so.0 is a soname thing | 17:09 |
| w00t | the build system is supposed to deal with them for you (qmake with TEMPLATE = lib should deal with it fine) | 17:11 |
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| Venemo_N9 | do you guys have any experience with the QML PathView element? | 17:25 |
| Venemo_N9 | I'm thinking about whether or not m it's a suitable replacement for ListView | 17:25 |
| faenil | why? | 17:26 |
| faenil | gtg, cya guys! | 17:27 |
| Venemo_N9 | because the listview can't cycle | 17:29 |
| mike7b4 | Venemo_N9 it can also be a good solution in irccjatter imho to swipe sideways to show userlist/channels harmattan api showcas has an example using PathView that waye | 17:29 |
| mike7b4 | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/examples/api_showcase.html | 17:30 |
| Venemo_N9 | mike7b4, that's a good idea to | 17:30 |
| Venemo_N9 | o | 17:30 |
| Venemo_N9 | mike7b4, what exactly are you suggesting for IRC chatter? | 17:31 |
| mike7b4 | swipe left shows channel list and right show users an center chatwindow. see systeminfo harmattan example to get what i mean :) | 17:33 |
| Venemo_N9 | ok | 17:33 |
| Venemo_N9 | installing the stuff | 17:33 |
| mike7b4 | :) | 17:34 |
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| Venemo_N9 | hm, is that a path view? | 17:46 |
| Venemo_N9 | that is nice | 17:46 |
| Venemo_N9 | that pager is exactly what I need | 17:46 |
| Venemo_N9 | mike7b4, is this app open source? | 17:46 |
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| mike7b4 | Venemo_N9 yes there is a tar file havent check what licens but.. | 17:46 |
| Venemo_N9 | thanks | 17:46 |
| Venemo_N9 | mike7b4, there I'd one issue though. this gesture would conflict with the text selection feature | 17:46 |
| mike7b4 | hmm yeah | 17:46 |
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| Venemo_N9 | mike7b4, thank you for pointing me to that example, that pager is exactly what I needed | 18:20 |
| msalmela | Stskeeps: It looks like editing mic.conf helped | 18:27 |
| Venemo_N9 | I will implement a similar thing for the new home screen | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | msalmela: did you export http_proxy etc before mic run? | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | if that didn't work, please file a bug in bugs.merproject.org | 18:29 |
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| Andy80 | I'm trying to follow these instructions to build a simple hello.c under MerSDK https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2#N950_Nemo_Mobile but I'm getting these errors: http://pastebin.com/SfDE0fhG | 18:33 |
| msalmela | Stskeeps: I exited sdk to get clear table and then set proxy and no_proxy to mic.conf and that was all. | 18:36 |
| Venemo_N9 | Andy80, have you set up a target? | 18:37 |
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| Andy80 | Venemo_N9: I don't know, I'm following the instructions of that wiki page and I'm exactly at this point: "SB2 Detailed setup information" | 18:38 |
| Andy80 | (damn if this netbook keyboard sucks!!!!) | 18:39 |
| Venemo_N9 | Andy80, that command will not work until you set up the target. | 18:39 |
| Venemo_N9 | actually, I think the wiki page mentions this to | 18:39 |
| Venemo_N9 | o | 18:39 |
| Andy80 | Venemo_N9: but I've executed all the previous commands... what I'm missing? | 18:40 |
| Andy80 | how do I setup a target? | 18:40 |
| ajalkane | /quit | 18:41 |
| Venemo_N9 | oh. | 18:41 |
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| Andy80 | oh wait... | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | Andy80: walk me through the steps you did | 18:41 |
| Andy80 | probably I forgot to run "sb-init" | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | msalmela: OK, it should naturally work with export http_proxy just | 18:41 |
| Andy80 | let me repeat the previous section | 18:42 |
| Sage | faenil: soon :) | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: xorg has a weird crash (signal 6) on exopc but otherwise boots | 18:42 |
| Andy80 | oh no wait | 18:42 |
| Andy80 | i DID execute sb-init like written in the instructions: sb2-init -d -L "--sysroot=/" -C "--sysroot=/" -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic -m sdk-build -n -N -t / mer-core /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | Andy80: where did you do the sb2-init inside? | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | like, what directory | 18:43 |
| Andy80 | cd /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer | 18:43 |
| Andy80 | that one | 18:43 |
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| Andy80 | like the wiki says | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | ok, can i see hello.c ? | 18:43 |
| Andy80 | Stskeeps: ok... I officially hate this netbook :( I wrognly pasted a line damn!!! | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | Andy80: get a mouse :) | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | that's what i did | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | best 5 bucks i ever spent | 18:45 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: it segfaults but second time it comes up? | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: yes | 18:45 |
| Andy80 | Stskeeps: I don't have one at the moment :( anyway... it compiled this time, thanks anyway ;) | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: btw, can you remove the busybox from one of your projects? | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | it makes the build impossible for armv7hl | 18:45 |
| Sage | I've seen that but I wouldn't consider that as a blocker for the release. | 18:45 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: which one? | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=busybox&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3AN900 | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | it conflicts with kmod | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | in | 18:46 |
| Venemo_N9 | Andy80, what netbook is that? | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | http://sage.kapsi.fi/Nemo-tmp/0.20120719.0.3.NEMO.2012-08-02.5/images/handset-armv7hl-n900/ | 18:46 |
| Andy80 | Venemo_N9: Asus 1215P but my hands are really not made for a netbook :( | 18:47 |
| Sage | done | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: thanks | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: trying to solve dracut atm | 18:47 |
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| Venemo_N9 | Andy80 :( | 18:48 |
| Sage | I'll do new nemo snapshot for all today before new mer release gets hit to repos. | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:48 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5407 Accepted promotion request | 18:52 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: can you look at SR 5413? | 18:55 |
| alterego | Not sure why it failed. | 18:55 |
| alterego | s/Stskeeps/Sage | 18:55 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5416 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5416 | 18:57 |
| Sage | alterego: telepathyqt... you already have telepathy voice? :) | 18:59 |
| alterego | Sage: no, just stubbed, I'll be working on that when I finish some contact integration | 18:59 |
| alterego | So it's there, but not exactly working yet :) | 18:59 |
| alterego | Sage: when you get a chance could you look at what I did wrong with 5413? | 19:01 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5409 Rejected promotion request | 19:01 |
| Sage | alterego: boss.conf file isn't mentioned in the Sources list. Because of that it wouldn't end up to the .src.rpm and thus request failed. So add that to the sources and you are ok. No need to add it to the packaging but just as source so it goes to src.rpm | 19:02 |
| Sage | w00t: ping | 19:03 |
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| Sage | or actually phaeron ping :) | 19:04 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5416 Accepted promotion request | 19:04 |
| Venemo_N9 | brb ttyl | 19:05 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5417 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5417 | 19:08 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5417 Accepted promotion request | 19:15 |
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| * alterego ponders how to auto update .spec file with appropriate version. | 19:26 | |
| alterego | Actually, I know .. | 19:26 |
| alterego | Cool, now I have auto .spec generation and auto archive creation :) | 19:33 |
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| Stskeeps | as long as you don't set up your own jenkins instance.. | 19:34 |
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| alterego | Heh, I just adapted a makedist from an old meego project, which formats packages as A.B.C+gitX.hash | 19:35 |
| alterego | Generates the .tar.gz file and creates a .spec with the appropriate version tag in it. | 19:35 |
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| * Sage ponders if qmsystem is only used for messaging in Nemo atm. | 20:02 | |
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| Sage | http://pastie.org/4395955 <- someone with qt .pro file experience? | 20:08 |
| Sage | shouldn't that work like that? | 20:09 |
| special | { may needs to be on the same line as packagesExist, iirc | 20:09 |
| special | -s | 20:09 |
| Sage | o_0 | 20:09 |
| Sage | FFS who wrote this shit? :D | 20:09 |
| Venemo | Sage, see https://github.com/Venemo/lipstick/blob/master/src/src.pro#L83 | 20:10 |
| Sage | sure that works, but why?!?! :) | 20:11 |
| special | the parser is newline sensitive | 20:12 |
| special | technically packagesExist(x)\n{ could be ambiguous (as a function call or a scope) | 20:12 |
| Venemo | Sage, welcome to our world | 20:13 |
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| Sage | live and learn ;) | 20:14 |
| phaeron | Sage: yes ? | 20:17 |
| Sage | shouln't I be able to accept/reopen request after boss has declined it? | 20:20 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5409 | 20:20 |
| Sage | I recall doing that before from the webui but now it doesn't show me the option | 20:22 |
| phaeron | Sage: only requester can revoke / reopen , but that's not handled by boss anyway | 20:23 |
| Sage | ah | 20:23 |
| Sage | phaeron: isn't that a boss bug that reject anyway btw? | 20:24 |
| phaeron | most probably obs empty response | 20:24 |
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| * Sage hates those so much | 20:25 | |
| Sage | I could reopen from cmdline :) | 20:28 |
| phaeron | why reopen anyway | 20:30 |
| Sage | so that I can accept it | 20:31 |
| Sage | reopened and accepted manually because of boss failed like that | 20:32 |
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| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/rdiff?linkrev=base&package=qmsystem&project=Project%3AMTF%3AUX&rev=7 <- alterego, w00t, Aard, who else might be interested about try to drop some stuff from qmsystem. Need to check if that causes problems with other stuff. | 20:33 |
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| Sage | ok, so other stuff fails so not good / needs more work | 20:38 |
| phaeron | Sage: so when a request is rejected due to some reason and you don't agree you just reopen and accept it ? | 20:39 |
| phaeron | :D | 20:39 |
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| Sage | phaeron: nah, only when I see that it failed because of no reason like this time | 20:40 |
| phaeron | whatever | 20:40 |
| Sage | build trial succeeded and boss failed | 20:40 |
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| Venemo | Sage, what is qmsystem? | 20:44 |
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| Sage | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qmsystem2/main.html | 20:47 |
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| Venemo | ah | 20:48 |
| Venemo | interesting | 20:48 |
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| Sage | well, something we want to get rid of in Nemo. As stated in that page even nokia didn't recommend using it for sensors but qt-mobility instead | 20:49 |
| Sage | only thing that is using that atm. is sysuid and couple of controlpanel applets | 20:49 |
| Venemo | omg | 20:50 |
| Venemo | so they didn't recommend using it | 20:50 |
| Sage | and main usecase is the system messages that are shown atm :) | 20:50 |
| Venemo | but they used it themselves | 20:50 |
| Venemo | lol | 20:50 |
| Venemo | that's so nokiay | 20:50 |
| Sage | refactoring not completed (tm) | 20:50 |
| Venemo | Sage, do you know whether the qt mobility sensors still use polling? | 20:51 |
| Sage | no idea | 20:51 |
| Venemo | I recall DocScrutinizer having a complaint a year or two ago that some implementation of qt-mobility used polling. which is as wasteful as it gets. | 20:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | well, seems not much has changed since ;-) Just now it's others that complain, since I already did several times | 20:53 |
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| Venemo | DocScrutinizer05, really? so do they still poll? | 20:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | last time I listened to somebody else complaining (was it here in this chan even?) it seemed like little has changed | 20:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | nah, probably been over at #mer | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wasn't it even you who heard about it from me in #maemo or #harmattan and complained to stskeeps in one of the mer/nemo chans? | 20:55 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer05, it was me, yes. but that was in the #meego times, very long ago | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, really? | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | time goes by, incredible | 20:56 |
| Venemo | incredible indeed DocScrutinizer05 | 20:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I recall the final ultimate 'excuse' back when been "somebody else polls anyway, so we can do too" | 20:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which is :-x | 20:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | powertop will tell | 21:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's just funny how EE gives their weekends, an arm and a leg, to save some 2mA of quiescent current somewhere, to get better standby time, and then SW spills the game lightheaded | 21:02 |
| Venemo | hehe | 21:03 |
| Venemo | yep | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just because they never wrapped their head around IRQ-event-driven design | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which EE put in all their expertise to enable it | 21:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | basically you should think of each single SIGALARM event cost you 2$ | 21:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then try to make a living with your code | 21:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this approach yields surprisingly good results | 21:07 |
| Venemo | :) | 21:07 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer05, well actually, looking at qtmobility documentation, it seems to be better now. | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (of course you need to count in all the flavours, like usleep() and whatnot) | 21:07 |
| Venemo | of course I'd need to actually read the code to be sure. | 21:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Venemo: it's been zeq: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-06-25.log.html#t2012-06-25T20:57:19 | 21:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 2 months ago | 21:25 |
| Venemo | ah | 21:25 |
| Venemo | I see | 21:26 |
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| vogel | hello everybody! | 22:53 |
| Venemo | hi | 22:54 |
| vogel | i want to start hacking something on nemo/mer, i hope I can get help there sometimes when I need it | 22:55 |
| Venemo | sure. | 22:56 |
| wmarone__ | what are you hoping to do? | 22:56 |
| vogel | fix some bugs on the bugzilla first | 22:57 |
| vogel | or second, first I need to install my own hello world on virtualbox and run it | 22:57 |
| Venemo | vogel, there are lots of helpful people around, so feel free to ask :) | 23:01 |
| Venemo | usually, we are mostly active in EU day hours | 23:02 |
| vogel | thats cool | 23:02 |
| vogel | i hope i wont get only RTFM or something ;p | 23:02 |
| Venemo | I said helpful! | 23:02 |
| vogel | is anyone using virtualbox for development? | 23:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | RTFM? lol, if there only were any ;-P | 23:07 |
| Venemo | DocScrutinizer05, there are, actually. | 23:08 |
| Venemo | well ok, depending on the topic. | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah | 23:08 |
| Venemo | the upside is that what's documented is documented quite well | 23:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | probably the best docu I ever seen came with/for NeXTstep and the cube | 23:10 |
| Venemo | :) | 23:14 |
| Venemo | anyway | 23:14 |
| Venemo | I should have been sleeping for hours now | 23:14 |
| Venemo | so, goodbye and have a nice evening guys :) | 23:14 |
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| vogel | first problem solved! i've got working terminal ;) | 23:18 |
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| vogel | bye, cya later | 23:21 |
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