| Venemo | w00t, is there a safe way to restart mcompositor? | 00:02 |
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| w00t | on nemo? | 00:04 |
| Venemo | yep | 00:04 |
| w00t | probably not safe, as such.. i'd just killall uxlaunch and let god sort 'em out | 00:04 |
| Venemo | lol | 00:04 |
| Venemo | ok | 00:04 |
| Venemo | that's ok | 00:04 |
| Venemo | w00t, any luck with a local X build? | 00:18 |
| w00t | Venemo: I won't be porting patches tonight, but I am trying a few other things | 00:19 |
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| * w00t has to actually get up in the morning | 00:19 | |
| Venemo | yeah, me too | 00:20 |
| Venemo | :( | 00:20 |
| Venemo | w00t, what are you trying? | 00:20 |
| w00t | it's quicker to work than explain | 00:25 |
| w00t | (no offense) | 00:25 |
| Venemo | none taken :) | 00:25 |
| w00t | if I get anywhere, then I'll explain | 00:25 |
| Venemo | :) | 00:26 |
| Venemo | btw, it helps to set lipstick's graphics system to raster or native and disabling the QGLWidget -> the issue is a lot more visible then | 00:34 |
| Venemo | w00t, one more interesting thing is that when you rotate the device while the status indicator menu is visible, then it will redraw the desktop correctly below it | 00:36 |
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| Venemo | w00t, tell me we'll never have such nightmares again when we switch to wayland | 01:01 |
| w00t | i'm sure it won't cure all graphical ills | 01:02 |
| w00t | but there's certainly a lot less code to go wrong | 01:02 |
| Venemo | :) | 01:02 |
| Venemo | I added some code that explicitly calls repaint on the main window when it receives an event. this at least makes it repainted after the status menu is opened | 01:03 |
| w00t | please don't leave it there | 01:03 |
| w00t | you're only working around the real problem | 01:03 |
| Venemo | it doesn't even make the real problem disappear. | 01:04 |
| Venemo | but you are right, yes. | 01:04 |
| Venemo | w00t, I know you think the bug is in X, but could we still work around it in mcompositor? | 01:13 |
| w00t | working around things isn't the right way to solve them | 01:13 |
| w00t | just be patient | 01:13 |
| Venemo | I'm patient :) | 01:14 |
| Venemo | I'm just not expressing it very well | 01:15 |
| Venemo | sorry | 01:15 |
| w00t | -nod- | 01:15 |
| w00t | god, i'd kill for some soda right now | 01:17 |
| Venemo | yeah | 01:17 |
| Venemo | fortunately, I have some Japanese green tea | 01:17 |
| w00t | I have nothing | 01:18 |
| w00t | and am thirsty | 01:18 |
| Venemo | :( | 01:18 |
| Venemo | I would offer you some tea, at least if we lived in the same city. | 01:18 |
| w00t | come to norway, we have .. a lot of trees? | 01:19 |
| w00t | and stuff | 01:19 |
| Venemo | :) | 01:19 |
| Venemo | MCompositor doesn't draw windows when they are transitioning | 01:23 |
| Venemo | https://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-compositor/blobs/master/src/mcompositescene.cpp#line124 | 01:23 |
| Venemo | but this doesn't really help with this... | 01:24 |
| Venemo | meh. | 01:24 |
| Venemo | w00t, I have a theory | 01:49 |
| w00t | mm? | 01:52 |
| Venemo | is it possible that the flicker occours when redirecting/unredirecting windows? | 01:52 |
| w00t | no | 01:53 |
| w00t | there's a patch to stop that in X, and trust me, you'd notice if that was it | 01:53 |
| w00t | (I disabled it to check) | 01:53 |
| Venemo | ok | 01:53 |
| Venemo | well, I did another experiment | 01:53 |
| Venemo | I triggered the code path which triggers compositing in mcompositor | 01:54 |
| Venemo | unfortunately it needed to set my main window as a normal window instead of a desktop. | 01:54 |
| Venemo | but the point is that it eliminated the problem | 01:54 |
| Venemo | obviously, this is just a workaround too | 01:55 |
| w00t | the problem seems to be with the overlay window (which is how redirection works), not redirection itself | 01:55 |
| Venemo | mmhm | 01:56 |
| w00t | I'm almost certain that the problem is somewhere in X | 01:56 |
| Venemo | I'm not very familiar with the concept of redirection and overlay windows. :( | 01:59 |
| w00t | I need to sleep | 02:12 |
| w00t | bye | 02:12 |
| Venemo | bye :) | 02:13 |
| Venemo | let's talk about this tomorrow | 02:13 |
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| Sage | w00t: we should upgrade our X but it might have regressions to some of our adaptations. Has been on my todo to check for quite a while. | 04:05 |
| Sage | We have quite new libs though, just the X server it self is old :) | 04:05 |
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| Sage | special: nice | 04:06 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5390 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5390 | 04:07 |
| Sage | w00t: when the telepathy-ring stuff gets in to the qmlmessages remember to obsolete meego-handset-sms | 04:11 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5389 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5389 | 04:12 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5390 Accepted promotion request | 04:23 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5389 Accepted promotion request | 04:33 |
| Sage | ok, so now adaptations should be ready for the new mer release :) | 04:43 |
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| Sage | lbt, phaeron: how can I remove e.g. "Project:MTF:MeeGo_1.2" Project it complains about branches people have made from it? | 04:51 |
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| phaeron | Sage: I'll try to remove it later , remind me | 04:59 |
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| wellu | good morning! | 06:16 |
| Stskeeps | good morning wellu | 06:17 |
| * wellu thinks it is evening or night to others | 06:17 | |
| Stskeeps | we live by UGT in here | 06:17 |
| wellu | UGT? UTC | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html | 06:17 |
| wellu | nice :) | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | makes life easier.. either way, just saying morning helps get the feeling of a virtual office | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | which leads to people doing actual work too :P | 06:19 |
| wellu | cool | 06:19 |
| wellu | anyway, got this fixed yesterday: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234 | 06:20 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 06:20 |
| wellu | ..with a pull request ongoing. | 06:20 |
| Stskeeps | and quite a interesting discussion in bug, too :) | 06:20 |
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| wellu | sure | 06:20 |
| Stskeeps | someone really ought to spend time writing a wiki page or three on performance tricks for qt/qml | 06:21 |
| wellu | it took me some time to understand that thumnails can be rectangles of any dimension and not only squares. | 06:21 |
| wellu | now the code can show a thumbnail of a portrait image in landscape thumbnail if one wants. It zooms in the middle of the original image and crops what ever goes out. | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:22 |
| wellu | keeping aspect ratio | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | at least life is much much easier these days than it was like 3-4 years ago, in terms of making good ui | 06:23 |
| wellu | true that | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | homescreens that could take up to half a year to stablize and make can be written in a week in qml :P | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | at most | 06:23 |
| wellu | with all sorts of magnetic bounce effects... try to do that in pure C | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i've read hildon-desktop code ;) | 06:24 |
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| Stskeeps | did you see venemo's homescreen stuff thing? we have this framework called lipstick, which is practically qml compositor, but for x11 and less featureful | 06:25 |
| wellu | I've coded one Hildon program back in the days just for fun. | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zg0NvSaXmY | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | when community can do this kind of stuff with ease, well, that's a quite nice development | 06:25 |
| wellu | now I know what lipstick is | 06:27 |
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| wellu | is cloned project automatically following what happens where it was cloned? | 06:38 |
| wellu | ah, in GitHub | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | i think you might have to pull | 06:40 |
| wellu | https://help.github.com/articles/fork-a-repo | 06:41 |
| wellu | add another origin and pull that it seems. | 06:41 |
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| Venemo_N9 | w00t, ping | 08:06 |
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| Venemo_N9 | w00t, do you think we can draw on the overlay window? | 08:07 |
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| alterego | Sage: I'm ready to submit again. | 09:20 |
| aaporantalainen | According to the: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92 . when booting N900 with uboot and starting kernel from SD card there are error messages, which kernel writes them? | 09:22 |
| alterego | aaporantalainen: pretty sure it's the nemo kernel, as I think it happens during splash | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | aaporantalainen: can you check with mic -dv on scenario a) and make sure you get the right kernel installed? | 09:23 |
| Venemo_N9 | this reminds me, are you aware that after the splash screen, Nemo draws some garbage on the screen? | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | o n950? | 09:28 |
| Venemo_N9 | yes | 09:28 |
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| aaporantalainen | Stskeeps, is there way to check inside raw-image what kernel it contains? (I will still make new image with -dv) | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | aaporantalainen: well, kpartx -a image, mount /dev/mapper/loop0p1 /mnt, rpm --root=/mnt -qa | grep kernel | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | and unmount, kpartx -d image | 09:35 |
| aaporantalainen | thanks | 09:35 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5391 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5391 | 09:38 |
| alterego | Yay, prechecks passed :) | 09:39 |
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| aaporantalainen | What is suggested version of mic to use? Platform SDK contains mic-0.8, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Mic_installation is about mic2-0.24 | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | that's obsolete | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | use what platform sdk has | 10:10 |
| alterego | Which is 0.8 ;) | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | aaporantalainen: marked page as obsolete, thanks | 10:11 |
| aaporantalainen | ok, and where is sources of that 0.8? | 10:12 |
| alterego | aaporantalainen: Why aren't you using the SDK? | 10:14 |
| aaporantalainen | alerego, I'm using SDK | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | aaporantalainen: prod lbt | 10:15 |
| aaporantalainen | I just saw couple of warnings when running mic create and thougt if they could be fixed | 10:15 |
| alterego | aaporantalainen: ah, okay. | 10:16 |
| alterego | aaporantalainen: this is upstream: https://github.com/jfding/mic | 10:18 |
| alterego | This is lbt's https://github.com/lbt/mic | 10:18 |
| alterego | I'd fix against lbts. | 10:18 |
| aaporantalainen | alterego, thanks | 10:19 |
| aaporantalainen | seems upstream is on 0.13 | 10:20 |
| alterego | Yeah | 10:20 |
| lbt | aaporantalainen: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb | 10:25 |
| lbt | which appears to be dead | 10:25 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: your turn | 10:26 |
| lbt | alterego: I pushed to mer-tools/mic just recently | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: worksforme | 10:27 |
| lbt | mmm ... just worked here too | 10:27 |
| lbt | nm | 10:27 |
| lbt | that doesn't count as a turn though :P | 10:27 |
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| Hossein | hi everyone. Quick question: For installing Nemo on ext SD card on N900: | 10:28 |
| Hossein | I have already bootmenu installed. If I install u-boot together with it, don't i have problems? | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | Hossein: it might be yes | 10:28 |
| Hossein | So you suggest I remove bootmenu first? | 10:29 |
| Hossein | I assume u-boot sits in NAND but bootmenu is some kernel module or something and that the two don't interfere. | 10:30 |
| Hossein | Can you give more info on this? (already read a bunch of talk.maemo.org threads btw) | 10:30 |
| lbt | aaporantalainen: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-tools/mic.git;a=summary | 10:32 |
| aaporantalainen | lbt, thanks | 10:33 |
| lbt | aaporantalainen: that's in Mer:Tools:Testing too | 10:33 |
| aaporantalainen | will it work with SDK? | 10:34 |
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| alterego | Sage: should I send updated creq? | 10:36 |
| lbt | aaporantalainen: should be fine - it's not fully tested yet so let me know if there are any problems | 10:39 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5391 Rejected promotion request | 10:45 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5406 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5406 | 10:46 |
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| raph_ael | hi | 11:08 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5406 Rejected promotion request | 11:08 |
| Stskeeps | hello raph_ael :) | 11:09 |
| raph_ael | i was wondering if it was possible and totally usable to install nemo on n900 on emmc (not sure of the word) | 11:09 |
| raph_ael | Stskeeps: hi :) | 11:09 |
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| Stskeeps | raph_ael: not a benefit, just get a microsd | 11:10 |
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| raph_ael | Stskeeps: thanks, i was willing to try it this evening, i just got the device yesterday and only tried meego and maemo | 11:11 |
| Sage | o_0 | 11:11 |
| raph_ael | Sage: hmm ? | 11:11 |
| Sage | raph_ael: something else above | 11:12 |
| Sage | phaeron: https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5406 ? | 11:12 |
| raph_ael | oh ok | 11:12 |
| Venemo | so w00t, you think it would be worth checking out libsocialweb? | 11:12 |
| w00t | yeah, worth a look | 11:12 |
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| phaeron | Sage: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=CE%3AMW%3AMTF%3ATrial%3ASR5406 | 11:14 |
| Venemo | w00t: there is one thing however that harmattan didn't get right and I'd like to. | 11:14 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5407 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5407 | 11:14 |
| phaeron | Sage: probably the message got eaten or something weird , but there is a failure in the trial build as you can see | 11:15 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5408 Rejected promotion request | 11:15 |
| aaporantalainen | If not talking about benefit, is it possible to run current nemo from emmc (n900)? It might help for some debugging purposes | 11:15 |
| w00t | Venemo: mm? | 11:15 |
| Venemo | w00t: on harmattan, the facebook/twitter apps and the event feed are basically out of sync. | 11:15 |
| Sage | uh... commhistory-daemon require qmsystem | 11:15 |
| Venemo | w00t: they either don't use the same servie or just use it in a wrong way | 11:16 |
| Sage | alterego: ok, we need a bit more reorganizing before that commhistory stuff goes in | 11:17 |
| w00t | Venemo: i don't know the details, but yeah, i know what you mean | 11:17 |
| w00t | Venemo: i'd guess that socialweb being a daemon itself will make that a bit easier | 11:18 |
| Venemo | w00t: indeed. | 11:18 |
| Venemo | w00t: however, this will require me to either write new fb/twitter apps from scratch (using libsocialweb), or to closely coordinate with the authors of the current ones. | 11:18 |
| w00t | Venemo: certainly true | 11:19 |
| Venemo | w00t: I'm not sure how much are the current apps maintained, if at all, and I'm not sure whether libsocialweb supports the same functionality as those apps now. | 11:20 |
| Sage | w00t: ever looked at qmsystem? | 11:20 |
| w00t | Sage: in small doses | 11:20 |
| w00t | Venemo: worth doing research into i suppose | 11:20 |
| Venemo | w00t: sure. | 11:21 |
| Venemo | w00t: are the current fb/twitter apps in Nemo maintained? | 11:21 |
| Sage | w00t: mainly pondering if dependencies to dsme,dsme_dbus_if,libiphb and timed are really needed or could be replaced with somethign else | 11:21 |
| w00t | I don't think we have anyone updating them in nemo at the very least | 11:21 |
| w00t | whether they're maintained upstream, i don't know | 11:21 |
| w00t | Sage: oof. i don't know that offhand, but i'd suspect that it is probably required | 11:21 |
| w00t | qmsystem is after all about providing C++ apis that interface with platform/device | 11:22 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5409 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5409 | 11:26 |
| lbt | Sage: prerelease is done | 11:28 |
| alterego | Sage: what's the problem? | 11:29 |
| alterego | It failed to build for an arch? | 11:29 |
| alterego | Ah, qmsystem-devel | 11:29 |
| alterego | So there's a missing dependency. | 11:30 |
| Sage | alterego: yes, and qmsystem has quite a log dependencies | 11:31 |
| alterego | Not suprising. | 11:32 |
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| Sage | alterego: can you check that is qmsystem used for in libcommhistory-daemon? | 11:34 |
| w00t | Sage: what package had a broken dependency on one of the nemo qml plugins? was it accounts ui? | 11:35 |
| alterego | Sage: do you mean, can I check that qmsystem is required for it? | 11:35 |
| Sage | w00t: yes, I fixed it already | 11:35 |
| w00t | Sage: oh... thanks | 11:35 |
| * w00t feels like a lazy asshole now :P | 11:35 | |
| Sage | w00t: well wanted to test my package group stuff so didn't want to wait ;) | 11:36 |
| Sage | alterego: yes, if qmsystem is really required or if it is deprecated dep. | 11:36 |
| alterego | It's used for notifications | 11:37 |
| alterego | So I'm guessing yes. | 11:37 |
| alterego | Aard: ping | 11:39 |
| alterego | I guess what we need to do is remove the notification stuff out of there and have it somewhere else. | 11:40 |
| alterego | But this is something I can't work on now. | 11:40 |
| Aard | pong | 11:40 |
| alterego | So I think we should accept the dependency and live with it. | 11:40 |
| w00t | (and file a task to fix it later) | 11:41 |
| Aard | short internal discussion, some part of qmsystem is already in qt mobility, and the other stuff looks like it should belong in qt-mobility: my suggestion is 'live with it for now, and try to move stuff we need to qt mobility' | 11:41 |
| Venemo | alterego: would you be OK about using libsocialweb then? | 11:42 |
| alterego | Venemo: for what? :) | 11:42 |
| alterego | For your event feed? | 11:42 |
| alterego | Venemo: I think, as long as it's fairly easy to replace, it's a good starting point yes. | 11:42 |
| alterego | Venemo: but like I said, would be cooler to have a QtScript driven plugin framework. | 11:43 |
| alterego | Venemo: infact, you could do that, and have libsocialweb be a plugin. | 11:43 |
| Venemo | alterego: that's a pretty cool idea too | 11:44 |
| Sage | alterego, Aard, w00t: Maybe we could drop dependencies to timed,dsme and libiphb from qmsystem do it would not drag in stuff and use it only for messaging for now (assuming those are not needed for messaging ;)) | 11:44 |
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| Aard | Sage: if you don't break anything, fine with me. set qmsystem on our watchlist, next to mtf | 11:48 |
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| Venemo | alterego: and yes, I'm talking about a possible event feed implementation on our new home screen | 11:57 |
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| Hossein | Sorry everyone, after my question I lost my internet connection until now. | 12:01 |
| Hossein | Question was, is having u-boot and multiboot on N900 dangerous? Wanna boot up nemo from external microsd. | 12:02 |
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| alterego | Sage: so now what? :) | 12:06 |
| Sage | alterego: need to work a bit. How much of hurry are you in atm.? | 12:06 |
| raph_ael | Hossein: i tried yesterday with meego, got back to maemo without worries | 12:06 |
| Sage | alterego: you can push all other than the daemon to CE:MW:MTF | 12:06 |
| Hossein | raph_ael: Is it what I think correct: First u-boot comes, then if you boot into maemo you can see multiboot menu. Was it that? | 12:11 |
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| Hossein | Hehe, HOW DO YOU TURN N900 OFF in Nemo? | 12:18 |
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| Hossein | nvm, got it, had to push down power button for something like 10 SECONDS... | 12:18 |
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| raph_ael | Hossein: it boots automatically on sdcard | 12:23 |
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| anil | hi | 12:25 |
| anil | i want to run the camera from virtualbox | 12:26 |
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| anil | which image i need to pick up | 12:26 |
| anil | i have installed yesterday #1586_virtual machine | 12:27 |
| anil | and used the image of i586vm | 12:27 |
| anil | but there seems to be no camera | 12:28 |
| anil | could anybody can help me this regard | 12:28 |
| Hossein | anil: For what? Installing nemo on your handset? Or emulating it on your PC? | 12:28 |
| anil | i am working on one of the bug 29 , which is related to camera | 12:28 |
| anil | so i need to reproduce tht bug..could anybody can give me some tips | 12:29 |
| anil | emulating on PC | 12:29 |
| anil | the bug is based on n950 handset | 12:30 |
| anil | do we have any virtualmachine or emulator to reproduce in pc side | 12:30 |
| anil | or do i need to create a patch and use it | 12:33 |
| anil | any suggestions | 12:33 |
| alterego | Sage: not much, just want to get it done so I can clear the bug ;) | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | anil: try to install meego-handset-camera package | 12:46 |
| anil | ok thank you. | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | i have big doubt it'll work but.. | 12:47 |
| w00t | at least on n950, there's no working camera at all at the moment | 12:47 |
| w00t | (bug 214) | 12:47 |
| anil | oh.. !!! is it | 12:48 |
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| w00t | Aard: was it you who set up ccache inside mer sdk? | 13:02 |
| w00t | anil: yeah.. | 13:02 |
| Aard | w00t: yes | 13:02 |
| Aard | w00t: keep Stskeeps why it's not in mer yet. | 13:02 |
| w00t | Aard: got any pointers/resources on how to do that? | 13:03 |
| * w00t is getting a bit tired of rebuilds :p | 13:03 | |
| Aard | w00t: right now you need to have ccache in a repository you build against; for jolla we have that solved. for nemo/mer you currently need to put a second repository containing ccache to your project | 13:04 |
| Aard | once ccache is resolvable you just add --ccache to osc build | 13:04 |
| w00t | ah.. | 13:05 |
| w00t | so not quite straightforward | 13:05 |
| Aard | oh, and move your buildroot to tmpfs | 13:05 |
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| Aard | (if your tmpfs-mountpoint is /var/tmp/build-root, your build-root should be something like /var/tmp/build-root/foo, to avoid ending up on the disk in case the buildroot gets cleaned completely) | 13:06 |
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| Aard | Stskeeps: mer#380. now. :p | 13:07 |
| * alterego wonders how much quicker his builds would be with tmpfs. | 13:10 | |
| alterego | ls /var/tmp/ | 13:10 |
| alterego | whoops | 13:10 |
| alterego | I have 7.9G available of tmpfs, ooooo :) | 13:10 |
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| Aard | alterego: a lot. with ccache, a lot more. nemo kernel first bild is a bit over 3 minutes on my machine, rebuild with ccache about 30 seconds | 13:14 |
| alterego | Cool | 13:14 |
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| lbt | alterego: so ~/.osc allows you to set this you know | 13:14 |
| Aard | and that's without finetuning parallel build parameters | 13:14 |
| alterego | lbt: talking about ~/.osc | 13:14 |
| alterego | I changed the abuild user number and it didn't do anything. | 13:15 |
| alterego | It doesn't really matter now I'm using sb2 directly, but meh. | 13:15 |
| alterego | lbt: also, we need createrepo in the sdk | 13:15 |
| lbt | you know you have zypper? right? | 13:15 |
| alterego | Can't find it | 13:15 |
| alterego | It doesn't seem to be in the sdk repos | 13:16 |
| Aard | lbt: mer#380, you or stskeeps, +- now? | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | we just put out a prerelease, i'm not adding another package, we've been delayed too much | 13:16 |
| lbt | yep | 13:16 |
| lbt | Aard: this is what Mer Release mgmt meetings are for | 13:17 |
| lbt | I know you were busy | 13:17 |
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| Aard | Stskeeps: please make this high prio to add to mer. I kind of expected it to be in already | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | Aard: it is, but bootable trumped features | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | i'll make the git repo for it now | 13:18 |
| Aard | Stskeeps: are we on track to get a new mer release next week? | 13:18 |
| lbt | alterego: http://repo.pub.meego.com/releases/Mer-Tools/6.0.1/builds/i486/packages/i486/ | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | Aard: yes, from my perspective the last fix went into the one we have made this morning | 13:19 |
| alterego | lbt: is this a new repo? | 13:20 |
| lbt | http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00548.html | 13:20 |
| Aard | Stskeeps: any plans for when the release will be? | 13:20 |
| alterego | lbt: thanks | 13:20 |
| lbt | np :) | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | Aard: prerelease comes today, then it's good to wait 24 hours for feedback at least | 13:21 |
| alterego | I thought I was using latest .. | 13:21 |
| Aard | ok | 13:21 |
| lbt | alterego: latest=stable | 13:21 |
| Aard | Stskeeps: so early next week? iirc ofono 1.8 is in there? other known regressions than ofono? | 13:21 |
| alterego | lbt: I mean I thought I was using latest stable :P | 13:22 |
| lbt | that's not stable | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | Aard: http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00636.html | 13:22 |
| alterego | Is it "stable" ? | 13:22 |
| * alterego chuckles | 13:22 | |
| lbt | yes | 13:22 |
| lbt | SDK got dropped down prio list | 13:22 |
| lbt | it's back up now | 13:22 |
| * lbt hides and works | 13:22 | |
| alterego | (with --nodeps --force) Error: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: error: unpacking of archive failed on file /etc/ssl/certs: cpio: rename failed - Is a directory | 13:23 |
| alterego | error: ca-certificates-2012.81-1.7.noarch: install failed | 13:23 |
| lbt | yeah - that was one reason | 13:23 |
| alterego | ignoring | 13:23 |
| Aard | alterego: that's the thing we've been beating lbt for about 5 monhs | 13:23 |
| alterego | lol | 13:23 |
| alterego | Yes, I've heard the certs mentioned a few times | 13:23 |
| alterego | Hardly a blocker though, just an annoyance :) | 13:24 |
| alterego | The SDK is already much better than anything I've used before. | 13:24 |
| Aard | it is a blocker if you work with custom certificates in sdk. which, surprise, we do. | 13:24 |
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| Stskeeps | Aard: http://review.merproject.org/#change,732 | 13:29 |
| Sage | w00t: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Ai586 : xorg-x11-server and xorg-x11-proto-inputproto didn't test and dropped all patches atm. so might be just broken ;) | 13:30 |
| w00t | it's cool, i'm used to breaking things right now | 13:30 |
| Aard | Stskeeps: +1 from me (not in gerrit, because of openid) | 13:30 |
| aaporantalainen | thanks for pointing sdk's createrepo. I had hard time to understand how to use it. I put it on the wiki: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Local_Repository_For_Image_Creation | 13:30 |
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| * sivang goes to backup his N950 to flash Nemo onto it. | 14:56 | |
| Stskeeps | aaporantalainen: thank you! | 14:57 |
| aaporantalainen | I have now compiled kernel so many times, that I'm sure I will solve soon: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92 | 14:59 |
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| aaporantalainen | I'm building new upstream pam (1.1.5) and osc build works locally, but on the server it doesn't. Problem is: it runs script, but on the server seems it doesn't have execution bit. | 15:05 |
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| sivang | Harmattan's 1.2 backup backs up everything besides music and pictures right? (e.g. DCIM) | 15:16 |
| * sivang opens the wiki page | 15:17 | |
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| sivang | hey Venemo_N9 | 15:24 |
| Venemo_N9 | hey sivang :) | 15:24 |
| Venemo_N9 | long time no see! | 15:24 |
| Venemo_N9 | how're you? | 15:25 |
| sivang | Venemo_N9: fair, I;ve been around all the time- just drowning in dayjob assignments, customers , and talk submissions :) | 15:28 |
| Venemo_N9 | sivang, well, I haven't heard from you lately | 15:29 |
| Venemo_N9 | anyway, I'm glad you're okay | 15:29 |
| Venemo_N9 | :) | 15:29 |
| sivang | Venemo_N9: hanging in there, thanks :) | 15:30 |
| sivang | Venemo_N9: well, you can see me on twitter all the time | 15:30 |
| Venemo_N9 | indeed | 15:31 |
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| Venemo_N9 | so anyway, libsocialweb has qt bindings and they have examples, so it shouldn't be that much of a trouble | 15:32 |
| Venemo_N9 | but there aren't much docs available | 15:34 |
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| Venemo_N9 | alterego, the problem with libsocialweb is that it's not very well documented. | 16:11 |
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| alterego | Venemo_N9: well, I don't really even know what it's purpose is. | 16:28 |
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| Venemo_N9 | alterego, it was the thing that the meego netbook ux used for its event feed | 16:38 |
| Venemo_N9 | it also has plugins for various social networks | 16:39 |
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| w00t | Sage: how can I tell uxlaunch to redo its thing? | 17:16 |
| w00t | if it's dead | 17:16 |
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| mike7b4_n9nemo | this i insanse even if helium has is glitches and is beta it seems render better than my crappy playbooks webrowser. damn I want nemo on my playbook :D | 17:17 |
| w00t | hmm | 17:17 |
| w00t | the answer seems to be "wait" | 17:17 |
| w00t | the good news, I now have harmattan's X starting on my n950 | 17:18 |
| w00t | the bad news, mtev doesn't seem to work, so I have no touch input.. | 17:18 |
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| w00t | fixed.. | 17:23 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: and what do you know... I no longer have flicker when switching.. | 17:23 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84#c7 | 17:32 |
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| Venemo_N9 | hm | 17:45 |
| Venemo_N9 | IRC is considerably slower on 2g | 17:45 |
| Venemo_N9 | and I also found a new and annoying bug in IRC chatter | 17:47 |
| w00t | which? | 17:58 |
| w00t | Venemo_N9: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84#c7 | 17:59 |
| Venemo_N9 | when you add a new server while connected to one already, it mistakenly tries to connect you to the already existing one | 17:59 |
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| Venemo_N9 | w00t, awesome | 18:00 |
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| -lindbohm.freenode.net- [freenode-info] if you're at a conference and other people are having trouble connecting, please mention it to staff: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp | 18:43 | |
| sivang | I don't require a SIM to test nemo right? | 18:47 |
| * sivang goes to find a .ks for arm | 18:48 | |
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| Venemo_N9 | sivang, right | 18:48 |
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| sivang | Venemo_N9: cool, wifi should be enough for most of the tests I guess | 18:54 |
| Venemo_N9 | it is | 18:57 |
| Venemo_N9 | sivang, may I recommend IRC chatter? :P | 18:57 |
| sivang | Venemo_N9: sure thing :) | 18:57 |
| sivang | Venemo_N9: I take it you are the principle behind it? | 18:58 |
| Venemo_N9 | indeed | 19:00 |
| Venemo_N9 | it's still a bit buggy though | 19:03 |
| nsuffys | but more and more faster :D | 19:03 |
| Venemo_N9 | really? | 19:04 |
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| Venemo_N9 | sivang, by the way I'm nowadays working on a better home screen for Nemo | 19:10 |
| sivang | Venemo_N9: nice :) I'll give a test when I finish writing my image | 19:15 |
| Venemo_N9 | it's not available for testing yet | 19:15 |
| Venemo_N9 | but it's getting there :) | 19:15 |
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| sivang | Venemo_N9: very cool , were you working on Cordia some time ago? | 19:17 |
| * sivang recalls something very faintly | 19:17 | |
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| Venemo_N9 | sivang, I realized that cordia is not the way to go for me. | 19:19 |
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| Venemo_N9 | sivang, this new desktop is developed in QML, and that gives me more freedom than gtk ever would have | 19:20 |
| jonwil | ok, thats another piece of closed-source-on-meego-mer-nemo that has been cloned and made open enough to be used for the various projects in this ecosystem. | 19:20 |
| jonwil | this time its the wl1251-cal binary for the N900 | 19:20 |
| Venemo_N9 | mhm. | 19:20 |
| Venemo_N9 | sivang, I have a video on YouTube if you are curious about current status | 19:21 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: about nemo images. Not sure if I can make any before sunday. But if you want to try install nemo-kickstarter-configs and mer-kickstarter from https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=rubygem-log4r&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3ATools%3ATesting and do kickstarts with mer-kickstarter -c /usr/share/kickstarter-configs/nemo/release-next/x.yaml and try images out | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: yes, i can make them on my own atm too | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | at least test .kses | 19:46 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: I pushed all the fixes to nemo repos so there shouldn't be any need for extra repos | 19:46 |
| Sage | except for x86 livecd but that is known issue atm. | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 19:47 |
| sivang | are these for arm? | 19:49 |
| sivang | so more to ask, I want to test them on my N950 | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | some of them are | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | but prereleases are very very rough | 19:50 |
| sivang | ahh i see. | 19:50 |
| Sage | w00t: did you try the current version of Xorg or with the new 1.12.x btw? | 19:51 |
| Sage | without patches that is | 19:51 |
| w00t | Sage: harmattan's (so, not exactly either) | 19:53 |
| w00t | I did try 1.10.6 without any related patches and it was still busted | 19:53 |
| sivang | this should be enough to get an n950 image right ? http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20120614.1.NEMO.2012-07-02.1/images/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-0.20120614.1.NEMO.2012-07-02.1.ks | 19:58 |
| sivang | also, looks the latest, and w00t already noted after it is on the device just do zypper update and be done. | 19:59 |
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| sivang | anyway, time to sleep now, continue tomorrow. G'night all. | 20:08 |
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| ajalkane | Beware, I'm planning to submit a bug fix. It's a one liner :P | 21:07 |
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| Stskeeps | woo. :P | 21:08 |
| Venemo | hey :) | 21:10 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5411 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5411 | 21:12 |
| special | ajalkane: that should be submitted 'upstream' to https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlfilemuncher | 21:15 |
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| ajalkane | special: I see... I wondered about that, but since there was another "patch" like this, I thought this is the way. Thanks, I'll submit upstream. | 21:23 |
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