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| rantom | morning | 05:43 |
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| w00t | Sage_: do I need to poke https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/5241 in any way? | 07:19 |
| w00t | it says "ok", but it's still open | 07:27 |
| * w00t is confused | 07:28 | |
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| Sage_ | w00t: moment :) | 07:53 |
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| w00t | Sage_: that looks better :) | 07:55 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5242 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5242 | 07:56 |
| w00t | Sage_: qmlcontacts should go in CE:Apps I guess? | 07:57 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5242 Accepted promotion request | 07:59 |
| Sage_ | w00t: that package is in CE:MW:MTF so CE:Apps:MTF | 08:00 |
| w00t | ah, true | 08:00 |
| Sage_ | and yes, I agree that it is confusing | 08:00 |
| w00t | does it have a devel project? | 08:01 |
| w00t | yeah.. | 08:01 |
| Sage_ | no it doesn't have | 08:01 |
| w00t | ok | 08:01 |
| Sage_ | w00t: add also Provides: current cotacts app > version; and Obsoletes: current contacts app <= version; | 08:02 |
| w00t | is that wise to do straight away? this isn't (yet) quite working in all aspects, editor e.g. | 08:03 |
| w00t | it's not terrible, but not finished, basically | 08:03 |
| Sage_ | well, the current one isn't really working so I don't see why not :) | 08:04 |
| w00t | lol | 08:05 |
| w00t | do you know what Group to put this in? | 08:05 |
| w00t | unresolvable: nothing provides %{_bindir}/desktop-file-install | 08:09 |
| w00t | hmmm... | 08:09 |
| w00t | Sage_: seen that before? | 08:09 |
| Sage_ | w00t: old spectacle | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | are you using mer sdk? | 08:09 |
| w00t | yes | 08:09 |
| Sage_ | update spectacle in the sdk at least | 08:09 |
| w00t | specify --version is 0.24 | 08:10 |
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| w00t | No update candidate for 'spectacle-0.24-1.4.noarch'. The highest available version is already installed. | 08:10 |
| Sage_ | 0.24.1 fixes the issue | 08:11 |
| w00t | yet seemingly not available after a zypper ref? :\ | 08:11 |
| Sage_ | sudo sdk-upgrade | 08:11 |
| w00t | not found | 08:11 |
| Sage_ | sudo zypper in sdk-chroot | 08:11 |
| Sage_ | then sudo sdk-upgrade | 08:12 |
| w00t | in progress | 08:12 |
| Sage_ | and then see if spectacle found :) | 08:12 |
| w00t | is it safe to just upgrade the whole thing? or should i just stick to spectacle ;) | 08:12 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: I'm seeing cgroups errors with the 187 systemd (similar to 185) | 08:12 |
| Sage_ | stick with spectacle | 08:12 |
| Sage_ | whole thing there is bug | 08:12 |
| w00t | haha | 08:12 |
| w00t | avoiding scratchbox upgrades in harmattan taught me well, then :P | 08:12 |
| Sage_ | or well you can update whole thing just need to remove certs from there first | 08:13 |
| w00t | hmm.. still tells me that there's nothing newer available after sdk-upgrade and zypper ref | 08:14 |
| rozhkov | the same for me, no newer spectacle | 08:14 |
| Sage_ | ? | 08:14 |
| w00t | Sage_: http://qtl.me/FPk.txt is everything zypper up wants to do | 08:14 |
| Sage_ | ok, well "sdk-upgrade --next" | 08:14 |
| Sage_ | then try to search new spectacle | 08:15 |
| Sage_ | but this might break things so you have been warnend (a bit late though ;)) | 08:15 |
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| w00t | eheh | 08:15 |
| w00t | :P | 08:15 |
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| Sage_ | I've done it and didn't break anything but you never know :) | 08:16 |
| rozhkov | now i've got new spectacle | 08:16 |
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| w00t | me too | 08:16 |
| w00t | 0.24.1-1.1.noarch installed :) | 08:17 |
| * w00t waits for osc build to do its magic | 08:17 | |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: "Your kernel apparently lacks build-in ipv6" | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: uhh.. | 08:18 |
| Sage_ | also "/etc/mtab" is ont a symlink or pointing to /proc/self/mounts. This is not supported anymore | 08:18 |
| * Sage_ took a video from the boot and going it frame by frame ;) | 08:19 | |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | that /etc/mtab thing is mysterious | 08:19 |
| w00t | you know, I always get suspicious when I package something and it works first try | 08:19 |
| Sage_ | ah | 08:20 |
| w00t | ... and it even installs, wth | 08:21 |
| Sage_ | "/lib/system/system/systemd-journald.service:22 Failed to parse cabability bounding set, ignoring: CAP_SYS_ADMIN, CAP_DAC_OVERRRIDE CAP_SYS_PTRACE CAP_SYSLOG CAP_AUDIT_CONTROL, CAP_CHOWN CAP_DAC_READ_SEARCH CAP_FOWNER CAP_SETUID CAP_SETGID | 08:22 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: ^ third error from boot | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:22 |
| Sage_ | then it goes to flooding everything | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | mce? | 08:22 |
| Sage_ | nah, not that far yet | 08:22 |
| Sage_ | breaks long before that | 08:22 |
| Sage_ | n900 kernel needs more options apparently | 08:23 |
| Sage_ | ipv6 at least | 08:24 |
| Sage_ | then that mtab thing is mystery | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | ipv6 really shouldn't be needed | 08:24 |
| * w00t wonders why https://build.pub.meego.com/package/rdiff?linkrev=base&package=qmlcalc&project=CE%3AApps&rev=4 got rid of the .yaml | 08:25 | |
| Sage_ | w00t: obs error | 08:26 |
| Sage_ | I've noted the same and at times lost content of patches | 08:26 |
| Sage_ | it happens when retrieving files with osc | 08:26 |
| w00t | I guess I'll submit a fix for that momentarily | 08:27 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 14 Jul 19 11:18 mtab -> ../proc/mounts | 08:27 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: that should be ../proc/self/mounts based on the error | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 08:28 |
| Sage_ | changed that but no difference | 08:29 |
| Sage_ | hmmp... getting the error still eventhough I fixed that | 08:32 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/4288756 can't run test with qemu :/ | 08:45 |
| alterego | What QML component gives the meego touch window title bar? | 09:01 |
| alterego | Or does everyone implement that from scratch? | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | we don't use title bars anymore | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | as we can gesture-to-switch | 09:02 |
| w00t | Sage_: so are you going to hit me if I need to update qmllauncher already? something apparently went weird with the tarball you accepted, i don't know why/how, but it doesn't match my local tarball - and the submitted one is kinda broken seemingly | 09:05 |
| alterego | I think it's still important to have a window title area for some apps. Like a header or something, even if it doesn't have window operators on it. | 09:05 |
| alterego | I just want to use that area and have it look nice ;) | 09:05 |
| w00t | harmattan's styling, basically | 09:06 |
| alterego | Yes | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | well, maybe it's better with design to relay what it's doing | 09:09 |
| w00t | Sage_: also, can I just re-release 0.0.3, or are you going to make me tag 0.0.4, even though nobody has installed it yet ;) | 09:11 |
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| w00t | anyone want to test something? | 09:36 |
| w00t | (and have a nemo device nearby) | 09:36 |
| * w00t drops a pin :P | 09:38 | |
| Sage_ | w00t: nah, just push new in :) | 09:44 |
| w00t | Sage_: do you mind testing this before I do? as I just proved, my device is a bit hacked up, so having a second tester is probably not a bad idea | 09:44 |
| w00t | if you don't have time, that's fine | 09:45 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://sage.kapsi.fi/Nemo-tmp/systemd-test.log | 09:46 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: search remount-rootfs.service | 09:48 |
| w00t | qmllauncher is in home:w00t:branches:Project:MTF:MW - qmlcontacts in home:w00t:branches:CE:Apps:MTF | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: no such file or directory? | 09:48 |
| Sage_ | yes | 09:49 |
| Sage_ | so something in remounting the rootfs goes wrong and I guess that is cause for not booting | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:49 |
| Sage_ | also syslog and auditd fails but I'm not so sure those would cause such a thing | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: can you show me fstab? | 09:49 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: not really as that isn't booted image | 09:51 |
| Sage_ | just test run of systemd without booting | 09:51 |
| Sage_ | to check what happens | 09:51 |
| Sage_ | readahead do we use it? | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:51 |
| Sage_ | isn't it only for hdd? | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | nah, useful to structure things and read early | 09:52 |
| Sage_ | ok time to do new image with 187 and see how that changes the same output | 09:57 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=systemd&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7l&repository=Mer_Core-next_i586 what? | 10:00 |
| Sage_ | ah, fdupes missing | 10:00 |
| Sage_ | passed locally :P | 10:00 |
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| * Sage_ :headdesk: | 10:18 | |
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| Sage_ | they changed the service names thus other services can't find em. | 10:19 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/rdiff?linkrev=base&package=boardname&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7l&rev=2 part of our problems | 10:50 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: see .service file | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | ah, ok | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | feel free to submit change | 10:50 |
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| Sage_ | well, I find to boot the image first as that change breaks the thing with older systemd | 10:51 |
| Sage_ | ah, need systemd >= 185 dep | 10:52 |
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| * w00t throws things at qt mobility | 11:54 | |
| w00t | document Contact::phoneNumbers and then don't implement it, why don't you | 11:54 |
| w00t | alterego: had you noticed that? | 11:54 |
| alterego | I had not | 11:57 |
| alterego | I believe it's all that seaside crap | 11:57 |
| * alterego throws stuff at pulseaudio | 11:57 | |
| alterego | It's breaking :/ | 11:57 |
| w00t | alterego: no | 11:58 |
| w00t | this is Qt Mobility, directly | 11:58 |
| alterego | :/ | 11:58 |
| w00t | I guess I'll have to patch that and figure out htf to submit this stuff when nobody seems to care about mobility in Qt 4 | 11:59 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: in fedora util-linux owns /etc/mtab and links it to /proc/mounts | 12:38 |
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| faenil | o( | 12:39 |
| faenil | o) | 12:39 |
| faenil | o/ xD | 12:39 |
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| ZogG_laptop | where i can get kernel source used on nemo img for n950? that and modules? | 15:30 |
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| beford | its all on obs afaik | 16:15 |
| beford | and hi ZogG_laptop :P | 16:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford: hey | 16:25 |
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| faenil | hey :) | 16:51 |
| faenil | can anybody help me troubleshoot harmattan booting issues? | 16:51 |
| faenil | I installed latest nemo image and harmattan isn't booting anymore | 16:51 |
| faenil | had to run fsck.etx4 to be able to extract nemo's image though | 16:51 |
| faenil | marquiz_, ping | 16:56 |
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| ZogG_laptop | faenil: on what partition you ran and did you try with usb connected ( i think it's mentioned on wiki) | 17:16 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop, it seems it's a clock issue (time clock) | 17:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | i dunno too much and noob so i just suggested =0 | 17:18 |
| faenil | ;) | 17:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | =)* | 17:18 |
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| faenil | reinstalling nemo since that didnt' boot either | 17:18 |
| faenil | just flashed new boot loader (had 13.7, now 13.9) | 17:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | i'm trying to install funtoo on n950 using nemo booting method and it's kernel =P | 17:19 |
| faenil | :D | 17:19 |
| faenil | let me know if you manage to :) | 17:19 |
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| ZogG_laptop | i managed to boot but screen is black | 17:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's or kernel panic or i don''t have video driver | 17:20 |
| faenil | oh xD | 17:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | found omap-update-display hope it's what i need =P | 17:20 |
| faenil | tried checking dmesg or something? | 17:20 |
| faenil | via telnet | 17:20 |
| * ZogG_laptop doesn't know what he is doing | 17:20 | |
| faenil | I'm as noob as you, don't worry :D | 17:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: i have dmesg okay btw - i still can chroot from harmattan, thanks to inception | 17:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | now compiling kernel there | 17:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's little bit slow =) | 17:21 |
| faenil | :D | 17:21 |
| Robcio | hi, is it possible to flash nemo to n900's emmc via virtual machine? | 17:21 |
| faenil | damnit | 17:21 |
| faenil | just reinstalled nemo and it's not booting | 17:21 |
| faenil | argh | 17:21 |
| Robcio | anyone? | 17:27 |
| ZogG_laptop | Robcio: did you check the wiki how to install on n900? | 17:28 |
| Robcio | @ZogG_laptop yes but the virtualbox isn't connecting the phone to the guest automatically | 17:28 |
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| Robcio | so i have to do it manually and when the flasher is done copying the image and reboots the phone it cannot see it again | 17:29 |
| Robcio | i tried it a few times and now all i'm getting is emergency mode on my phone | 17:29 |
| Robcio | can't do anything right now | 17:30 |
| special | I sucessfully flashed from a Parallels VM, but it does do automatic USB assignment | 17:31 |
| Robcio | but it appears that it did flash the phone, so it's progress after all | 17:31 |
| Robcio | @special i'll try this one but first i have to get the phone out of the nemo's emergency mode and connect it in update mode somehow | 17:32 |
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| Robcio | @special btw. what OS are you using to run parallels? | 17:36 |
| special | OS X | 17:37 |
| Robcio | maybe it's x64 win7 fault, i red somewhere that it does make some trouble | 17:37 |
| Robcio | i've red* | 17:37 |
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| Ja_ | hi, anyone here have experience in nokia n900 flashing? | 18:30 |
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| Ja_ | anyone can help me? | 18:40 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Ja_: use ~flashing on #maemo | 18:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | is video driver of n950 inside kernel? | 18:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | i get black screen when i boot into gentoo | 18:45 |
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| ZogG_laptop | vgrade2: ping | 18:54 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sage_: you are mantaining CE:adaptations on OBS? | 18:59 |
| dm8tbr | ZogG_laptop: check the nemo hw adaptation. it's highly likely you need to explicitly configure it for some fb driver or such | 19:01 |
| Sage_ | ZogG_laptop: sort of I guess. Anyone is free to send submits. | 19:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sage_: i wonder about patches, as well if there is any other place you can put sources themselves? | 19:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sage_: just if i need to apply all of them? now i'm struggling to get display to work | 19:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | dm8tbr: that's why i wanted help as not sure if it's in kernel driver, some config or what... i don't use X for now but i don't see terminal, just black screen though it's lighted on. and i can see in logs in dmesg it loads things | 19:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | i just think i'm too annoying and have too stupid question so people do not want to help me =\ | 19:07 |
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| Stskeeps | ZogG_laptop: long story short the n950 is a manual update display that doesn't allow automatic updates so you can't get a framebuffer console working | 19:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: i saw something related to it on CE and if i set X.Org it wouldn't work too? | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | no, probably not | 19:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: but moslo for example has output on display | 19:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: can you point me out what i need to check to read to solve it, or it's unsolvebale? | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | sure, because it manually writes to the display and asks it to update | 19:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | i may try to set auto connect to wifi and set ssh and at least to login from laptop though | 19:20 |
| Stskeeps | i'll be very honest: hardware adaptation is hard and i'm not terribly inclined to help with other distros as it doesn't bring any kind of benefit to me to do the help :/ | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | we had to learn some things the hard way | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | but yes, wifi or usb network | 19:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: you see after you pointed me out to kernel and moslo stuff i got it working after all, though it took me some time =) | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | right, spend time looking how n950/n9 hw adaptation is made | 19:25 |
| ZogG_laptop | that's what i'm doing | 19:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | trying to do | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | do you have any other kind of hw you could perhaps put mer on and study with that? | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | n950/n9 is really annoying due to the fact you operate blind | 19:27 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: i would get Raspberry Pi in few months | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | got a old laptop? | 19:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: gave it to grandma =) | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | old pc?: | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | P | 19:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: nope =( and from gadgets only what i have is broken n900 and e-reader. but don't want to try to build mer on e-reader =) | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | people have done crazier things | 19:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | i dunno to brick it and as you see i don't have enuf knowledge | 19:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | Stskeeps: n900 or n9 doesn't have display problems as n950 right? | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | right | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | well | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | n900 | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | n9 does | 19:38 |
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